Kicker KEYLOC smart line output converter | Crutchfield

[@Backroadmuscle]

They should take it a step further and add an app were u can customize through an equalizer

[@Auto209]

Would have loved to see this before I just installed mine. Good thing I can still swap it out.

[@erickmontes179]

Hello! I have a Honda Accord 2015, installed a kicker subwoofer and kicker amp, I’m planning to upgrade my 4 speakers to kickers and an amp kicker also. I’m new into car audio. I have the factory radio head unit, how do I know if I need this little device?

[@crutchfield]

Hi Erick, sounds like you are going to have a great setup! What did you use to tap in for signal to the sub amp? Which 4-channel amp do you plan to use?

[@erickmontes179]

@@crutchfield I don’t have the answer for the first question since I payed someone else to do installation. For the second question, I plan to get the kicker key 200.4 amp

[@crutchfield]

Nice choice! Just so you don't have a hybrid model, you can add and get signal to both the sub and Kicker amps using the AudioControl LC6i: www.crutchfield.com/I-rYALc921/p_161LC6IB/item.html You can use this to tap in speaker-level for signal using your factory radio. You'll run RCAs from it to the amps.

[@joebloggs4191]

Is this only 2 channels? I am using an LC6i at moment to get 4 channels out from my factory head unit to give me 6 channel output to two amps, one 4 channel for the speakers and a mono block amp for the subs. How would this work in this situation? or is Kicker planning on bringing out a multi channel version?

[@crutchfield]

This would be used in place of the LC6i and 3 are needed to have 6 channel RCA output like the LC6i offers

[@gillripper1]

I'm actually planning on using this for 2 amps. Kicker told me to run 2 Y RCA's out of it.

[@ssjdavid]

Use it with a dsp

[@koyang337]

How do you connect this to a Mark Levinson factory amp in a Lexus? I’m trying to replace the factory subwoofer with a bigger subwoofer and separate subwoofer amp while keeping the factory Mark Levinson amp in place to run the factory speakers. The recommendation from various forums has been to tap into the factory subwoofer output of the Mark Levinson amp for the input signal instead of the left and right rear fill channels, but how do you do that when the subwoofer output only has two wires and the kicker LOC2 has 4 wires (a left signal input and a right signal input). Do I tie the two positive wires on the LOC together and then the two negative wires of the LOC together first and then connect them to the single sub output wires of the factory amp ?

[@crutchfield]

Hi Ko, sounds like you're working on a nice upgrade! Your best bet is to tap in at the radio or amp via the front left and right speaker outputs. Kicker offers a wiring diagram via their manual on page 7 here: pdf.crutchfieldonline.com/ImageBank/v20200717174200/Manuals/206/20647KEYLO.PDF

[@kadenkinoshita6525]

Will this work connecting to a factory subwoofer high level outputs? I have a 2013 Civic Si with premium audio so the subwoofer would only provide two wires (+ and -). Therefore would I just wire this into the left inputs on the kicker 47keyloc? Or would I need to split the + and - to wire into the left and right inputs? Thanks!

[@crutchfield]

When using a 4-channel line output converter like the Kicker 47KEYLOC with left and right inputs (4-total wires) you would use jumper wires to connect your two outputs to the four inputs. We can always help guide you with our Lifetime Technical support provided for free with any purchase.

[@benmcrill7628]

Im thinking of replacing my Pac lp3-2 loc with this. Im currently running a mono amplifier and my current loc is tapped into my rear speaker on a 2021 subru legacy. Im finding im not getting a consistent signal output, would this be a good option?

[@crutchfield]

I found in my wife's Subaru Forester that the rear speakers did not receive as strong a signal as the front speakers. Installing the Kicker 47KEYLOC would provide the DSP signal correction with a potential signal boost, but I would advise trying your PAC LOC with a speaker input signal from the front left and right speakers first to see if that improves the sound.

[@benmcrill7628]

The only thing I'm concerned with is the subru starlink telemetry unit from tapping into the front speakers. I did purchase the kicker keyloc47, but I could send it back? Or would the LC2I PRO have been a better option for me?

[@crutchfield]

Did your car come with a factory Harmon Kardon or Rockford Fosgate sound system? Does it have the 11.6" factory LCD?

[@blakestuart9090]

Would this be necessary if using the kicker key 200 4 channel amp? Thought about using the key amp to install on the factory system of a non Bose 21 mazda 6

[@crutchfield]

No, you would not need a separate line converter when using the Kicker 47KEY200.4 amp, since it offers speaker-level inputs and a built-in DSP.

[@blakestuart9090]

@@crutchfield Can it be used on factory speakers or is it recommended to upgrade?

[@crutchfield]

Factory speakers can't typically handle much power, so it's best to also upgrade the speakers when adding the 4-channel amplifier.

[@lukeleipzig]

You guys are the best.

[@jamesfair9751]

Does this compensate for bass roll off ? Or does it need to if you make sure your input has the low frequency. I’m so confused I’m debating this keyloc or the lc2 pro or the NVX XLCA2X X-Series PRO 2-Channel Line Out Converter Digital Bass Enhancer with xBOOST. Also need to know how to set the gains and boost on whichever LOC I get !!! One more thing this put up to 9.5 volt out can all amps handle that much how do you adjust to fit the amp.

[@crutchfield]

It takes some tweaking; but the Kicker 47KEYLOC does offer signal restoration for bass, mids, and highs. Instructions are included and you'll have the direct number for our Tech Support on your invoice. You can use the Output Gain to match the output voltage of the KEYLOC to the input sensitivity voltage of your amplifier.

[@ssjdavid]

This does way better than a audio control

[@TimSmith-db1iu]

Hi, I just bought one of these from you so I could add an aftermarket sub/amp sub to my 2024 genesis gv70. The gv70 came with Prestige package that has the Lexicon system. I've heard from other GV70 owners that because the prestige has an active road noise cancellation technology, that you will hear it through the aftermarket sub once installed. Will this keyloc clean up the signal from the amp? I already tapped into the left and right subwoofers. Someone on a genesis forum said they used this to remove the road noise signal, but I was hoping someone else could confirm this.

[@crutchfield]

Hi Tim, thanks for your order. You generally do have to turn off the factory active noise cancellation system when you add an aftermarket amp and sub. Our Tech Support can help with this. Their direct number is on your invoice.

[@TimSmith-db1iu]

@@crutchfield It cannot be turned off. Can you ask your techs if there is a work around. I was told if you roll the window down a little it turns off, but I'd rather disable it somehow, or have it on a switch.

[@crutchfield]

You would have to disable/disconnect it permanently. If you got the sub or amp here, our techs can help you with this. If not, Subaru should also be able to provide information on the ANC module location and how to disconnect it as well.

[@TimSmith-db1iu]

@@crutchfield ok thanks. Just curious, why would subaru know? It's a Genesis.

[@crutchfield]

Tim, sorry about that! Not sure how I came up with Subaru. You would want to check with your Hyundai Genesis dealer. Did you get the amp and/or sub here?

[@martinluthierking]

I have an AudioControl LC6i..does this do anything that my LC6i doesn’t do? like with all pass filters?

[@crutchfield]

The Kicker 47KEYLOC does add the DSP features not present on the LC6i.

[@florintucan566]

I hooked up my wires from llc to three subwoofer wire and I keep getting distortion.any suggestion how I can fix it?

[@crutchfield]

Noise is often caused by a grounding issue. You may want to double check the ground connections as well as make sure the new amp's ground location in the vehicle has been cleared of any coating on the metal. Also, we have an article that can help identify the cause of the distortion: www.crutchfield.com/I-rYALc227/learn/car-stereo-diagnose-noise.html Sometimes distortion comes from an amp's gain not being set right. We have a couple articles and a video covering the process to set the gain on an amp: www.crutchfield.com/I-rYALc227/learnsearch/amp_gain.html

[@rtiid22]

What other options are there to defeat factory all pass filters?

[@crutchfield]

You can do a new radio and wiring as well. What type of setup do you have in mind?

[@Thizz2979]

Can you hook up a 4 channel amp one mono amp and a equalizer to this key loc

[@crutchfield]

What are your amp and DSP models?

[@Thizz2979]

Recoil I550x4 prime r2 750x1 fosgate mono no dsp wanted some kind of controll if I can hook up a equalizer with this loc

[@crutchfield]

A LOC with multiple channel outputs will work better. The AudioControl LC6i is perfect match here: www.crutchfield.com/I-rYALc921/p_161LC6IB/item.html

[@Thizz2979]

@@crutchfield thank u 🙏

[@crutchfield]

You're welcome.

[@blakekallman8846]

Wavtech LinkDQ vs this KEYLOC unit. I'm torn, heard great things about both. Any thoughts?

[@firebirdude2]

The Wavtech is not full-range. It's EQ focuses on 30-80Hz. The KEYLOC is 20-20kHz and also does time correction.

[@DirtyKk]

Can I run a sub amp. 4 channel amp. Dsp and epicenter if I use the keyloc??

[@crutchfield]

Hi Don, what is your exact setup? Which Epicenter are you using? What are you DSP and amp models?

[@DirtyKk]

@@crutchfield 2016 Honda Accord coupe exl. Taramps md 1800. Original Epicenter. Prv dsp. 2x4

[@crutchfield]

Thanks, Don. Looks like you can use it before the Epicenter and then run from the Epicenter to your additional EQ.

[@unklemal]

What is the difference between keyloc and kisload4 ? Or do i need both?

[@crutchfield]

The Kisload4 is a device that creates a speaker-like resistance that some radios need to see before they will output audio. The need for this part will depend on the vehicle you are hoping to install an amp into and if the stock speaker will remain installed. Will the stock speaker still be installed? If it will not, what is the year, make, and model of your vehicle? The KEYLOC is a 2 channel line output converter that also has a DSP. Given that it is 2 channel, if your vehicle and application does need a KISLOAD part, there is a 2 channel model that is better suited to use with the KEYLOC. It is the KISLOAD2 found here: www.crutchfield.com/I-rYALc227/p_20646KILD2/item.html

[@mc1412007]

So im guessing i need one for front speakers and a second for rear speakers?? I have a 660.5 runing 4 door and and 1 sub on a 3rd gen tundra

[@crutchfield]

We should have a better match for your 5-channel amp. What year is your truck? Did it come with a factory JBL system or the factory center dash speaker? Are you replacing all the factory speakers? Thanks!

[@mc1412007]

​​@@crutchfield 23 tundra sr5 off road non jbl. I have kicker 660.5 amp and ks speakers and a low profile 8 in kicker sub tucked away under seat storage u can tell it sounds a bit fuller and some lows are better but it feels like the speakers are not performing to its full cababilities. Kinda leaning towards taco tunes ntune6 audio correction loc but i wanted a dsp

[@crutchfield]

The JL Audio FiX 86 is also a solid contender. The Fix86 will automatically correct factory time delayed outputs before summing the signals and equalizing them with dual, 30 band, 1/3 octave equalizers. Its differential-balanced inputs accept virtually any OEM analog audio signal, from low-voltage line-level to high-power, speaker-level outputs (up to 30V RMS). The Fix86 offers three sets of Left/Right RCA outputs with Front, Rear, and non-fading Subwoofer.

[@Gobu-z1g]

Does this act as a ground loop isolator?which is a more higher end

[@crutchfield]

It does not; but what are you connecting specifically. We're glad to recommend the best option for your needs.

[@Gobu-z1g]

@@crutchfield I'm connecting a Sony ax4000 the is constant hiss I've checked wiring all is in order I also have a Rockford Hilo connected. The hiss just won't go away

[@crutchfield]

We do have a good ground loop noise isolator you could try here: www.crutchfield.com/I-rYALc921/p_127SNI1/PAC-SNI-1.html

[@oscarsanchez9336]

Hello I install this keyloc and I only getting a low range is tha is ok my subwoofer is very loud

[@crutchfield]

The KEYLOC's default status is in Passive Frequency Detection mode which can detect what band of frequencies are available on each of the speaker input channels. For a sub, you'd be at 20Hz - 200Hz.

[@mjl6425]

I’m adding a pair of subs and amp I want to hook this into my rear speaker connections only. I don’t want to connect to the fronts. If I’m not getting a “sub level” frequency in the rear signal, where do I connect to?

[@crutchfield]

There may not be any other choices. We can check. What is the year, make, and model of your vehicle?

[@mjl6425]

@@crutchfield 2005 honda accord

[@crutchfield]

There is no factory installed subwoofer in that vehicle which means the front door speakers are the only other possible choice available. However, the rear speakers are the biggest in it and are the best to use to when installing this KEYLOC for a subwoofer. Since it sounds like you did this but are not getting any bass, we recommend contacting technical support for help. If you purchased it from Crutchfield, we recommend contacting our technical support for help. We send their toll free phone number on the order invoice. If it was purchased elsewhere and they cannot help, we recommend contacting Kicker's support for help

[@mjl6425]

@@crutchfield No I actually have yet to hook everything up. I’m just saying that from another video I saw when the signal was not subwoofer friendly so they just used another signal but didn’t explain which one they used. I plan to hook up the subwoofer to the rear signal. I was just wondering worst case scenario if the rear signal wasn’t base friendly then what should I do? But after reading your comment I feel more confident the rears are my best option.

[@mafosa8519]

@@mjl6425 funny.. kicker claims if theres no base signal. that keyloc will ad it! thats one of the features.

[@alonzofoster519]

What's the difference between the keyloc and the lc2i? I really would like to know bc I cant decide on which to run..

[@crutchfield]

The Kicker is automatically tuned with internal components. the LC2i is a bit more manual and focuses specifically on Bass restoration.

[@tonesepulveda2728]

@@crutchfield which one would be better to get

[@growingup4487]

lc2 is trash

[@matthewcunningham9297]

I used the lc2i in the past. It works well. This kicker one seems pretty dope too though.

[@exlr8in]

@@crutchfield Dude I’ve got the exact same question with the LC2i Pro and KEYLOC (Smart). Although in my setup I want to “keep” my oem head unit and the oem amp. Is this possible and which device would help me with this? I would want to add (new kicker amp + kicker sub + either of them two device) in between my current amp and the dedicated oem sub (which is what is being replaced.). Help?

[@keving1774]

What do you think about the NVX XLCA-2 ?

[@crutchfield]

We do not have any experience with NVX products. Wish we had different news for you there. We do know this Kicker KEYLOC performs very well.

[@firebirdude2]

The XLCA-2 is a knockoff LC2i. The Kicker KEYLOC is in a class of its own. Literally, can do three times the amount of stuff the XLCA-2 or LC2i can do.

[@krodyssey4770]

Will this be better to get this instead of the lc2i.

[@crutchfield]

That's a good question and one with an answer that will vary depending on the person and their preferences. We have advisors who can discuss your gear, goals, and such to give a personal recommendation between the two. Here's how to reach us for this help: www.crutchfield.com/I-rYTVc227/support/ContactUs.aspx

[@firebirdude2]

LC2i is for subwoofers only. The KEYLOC can be used for sub bass, or full-range 20-20kHz. The KEYLOC also handles factory time correction or all-pass filters.

[@DirtyKk]

@@firebirdude2 Can I run a sub amp. 4 channel amp. Dsp and epicenter if I use the keyloc??

[@devryguy27]

I've got a question? I have New Mercedes-Benz and Don't wanna touch the the radio, Navi, lol on any other car I wouldn't care and have. But this car already has the Bsst 14 speaker Burmester Sound System, doesn't get much better. My worry is I've never tried one of these cheap boxes to tap into my my rear deck speakers, I mean how does one of these compare to using A nice Deck with RCa PREOUTS?

[@crutchfield]

This is the next best thing. The best way to go about it will be highly dependent on your vehicle.! I'd give one of our advisors a call to see what is best for you! bit.ly/2KP1zS3

[@trentriggins3697]

Would this be good to put in my 2014 charger v6. I got 3000watt taramp amp and 2 12s kicker

[@crutchfield]

If that gear is being connected to the stock system in the Charger, then this will improve the bass!

[@Dre21boss]

Would this work on my 07 lexus ls460 Mark Livingston

[@crutchfield]

It can if you are installing an aftermarket subwoofer/amp system. For all other speaker systems, converters with more inputs that can sum signals together will be needed. We have advisors that can be reached who can discuss your goals and give a personal recommendation on a LOC for your Lexus. Here's how to reach us for this help: www.crutchfield.com/I-rYTVc227/support/ContactUs.aspx

[@toneytone7497]

Nice

[@shawnito90]

can you use this with an aftermarket deck also?

[@crutchfield]

While it can be used with aftermarket radios this will counter the EQ settings of the radio and any time alignment adjustments that you may have set on it. Most aftermarket radios don't need a device like this and work better with other line output converters when they don't have the preamp outputs needed to connect the amps you want in your system. We can help recommend the most ideal one to use. Which aftermarket radio do you want to connect it to? Which amps will be used in the system? And, what types of audio control are you hoping to have over the sound?

[@shawnito90]

@@crutchfield I have a JVC KW-M650BT. Already pre installed before I purchased my 2010 Mercedes c300 basic audio package. I have a hifonics 2400 watt Mono amp With a 12” kicker Comp R ….that I connected and everything lights up and powers on but I sound from my subs so I had bought this kicker keyloc for my other car awhile ago so it’s not somthing that might help me?

[@crutchfield]

This is not expected to help. The JVC receiver already has a subwoofer preamp output. You may want to confirm that there is an RCA audio cable running from that preamp output to the sub amp's input. If it is, then our recommendation is to consult technical support for troubleshooting help

[@jimco1198]

I'm going to be having two jblclub5501 monoblock amps and two 8" jbl stadium speakers in my 2022 Ford maverick with the b&O upgraded system. I have been thinking about whether to get the ac lc2pro, but would this work better? And will I need 2 or would one work to run the two amps?

[@crutchfield]

Both will give you clean signal using your factory radio. Do you need independent level control for each amp?