Killer Tier List (Vecna Patch)

[@1aiya]

hag in d tier is absolutely criminal, hag's snowball potential can easily change the tide of a game in a matter of seconds. i'd place her in c tier personally

[@שגיאאדרי-ו4צ]

She's a/b tier

[@dadrako1581]

Yeah but I press button and now your pressure is gone. Myers snowball is also crazy and he’s shit too.

[@tomatoes100]

It's personal with tofu lol

[@שגיאאדרי-ו4צ]

@@dadrako1581 myres is M1 killer his snowball is nothing but shit

[@crazymack556]

@@tomatoes100 tofu doesn't exactly hate hag. He just finds hag very boring.

[@bynosaurus4024]

holy shit i leave for a year and billy is S tier again, is this 2018??

[@ethancbaker2002]

what i was thinking lol

[@themarketgardener]

Exactly the place he deserved, the king of og Dbd

[@AzarathX.]

@@themarketgardenerhes too strong

[@Fedesalazaar]

​@@AzarathX.He's supossed to be strong because of how hard is to master him, and i wouldn't call him too strong after the nerfs

[@AzarathX.]

@@Fedesalazaar he has 0 cool down for a missed chainsaw and it’s even worse wigh his add ons overdrive is busted as well, idky people always feel the need to baby this killer 😭

[@Pyrax-Tunneled-You]

Billy as #1 is insane

[@MonkeyBurrito]

He has more mobility than nurse and an instadown power. His chainsaw is mega buffed now so why not consider it a possibility. He's definitely S tier now at the very least

[@Empyrion]

@@MonkeyBurrito I mean, I get the points, but I still disagree completely. His mobility is a good argument, for sure - but that's the only thing going for him. He has an instadown mechanic - yes, which can be outplayed by pallets and (technically) crouching, while nothing besides los blocking helps against Nurse. + the argument with Mobility doesn't matter on smaller maps. He deserves S-Tier for sure, but nothing beats Nurse. Maybe he and Hens can get some people for a showmatch, like they did for Billy and Blight.

[@שגיאאדרי-ו4צ]

@@MonkeyBurrito bro what lol nurse chase power is by far the strongest billy instadown is nothing against predropping windows croching and alot more

[@austincoburn7787]

Billy on some maps can be insane. He can make incredible pressure with a good build. A snowballing Billy is so hard to come back from.

[@guntherdeeful]

​@@MonkeyBurrito S tier yes... Better then nurse, I'd still disagree. Though tofu did say it was a hot take.

[@MrCoolGuyJr]

I agree with the pinhead placement, but you really missed out on one thing. The best pinhead players don’t use the box as passive slowdown, they know the spawns and actively hunt it down and protect it, keeping chain hunt going for essentially the whole game if they’re good/lucky enough.

[@hhashimoto5312]

If you're willing, putting together some showcases with Killer Mains to reflect on some of the hot topic tier list picks would make great content! Appreciate all the passion you put into this 👍

[@hippibunni9177]

The number of people who know how to properly counter twins is about the same as the number of people who actually play twins: 5

[@YoshizawaABC1180]

lol

[@kidscast5842]

Yeh, though I do think people underestimate twins a lot. I had a pub match against dir3wolf and his swf and absolutely massacred them and I’m not the best killer in the world or anything.

[@YaMaTo999Vir]

Bro cooking insane 💀 He thinks deathslinger and trickster are higher than huntress! Bruh.

[@Lrn31718]

Trickster now is

[@TheWorld111_1]

​@@Lrn31718look at the huntress #1 and look and the trickster #1 trickster can never cross huntress and I am not a trickster hater I am someone whose first killer was trickster

[@6Kharma]

Trickster is most definitely higher

[@Trabalheiasemanainteira]

Why is huntress so low? I think huntress is S tier after the buff she got.

[@TheWorld111_1]

@@Trabalheiasemanainteira he is really bad at huntress so he put it low because he can't use her well

[@gummypeachrings]

I'm going to get you, Tofu.

[@Neekowitz]

Ah, the hag main right? Good stuff. I for one would put hag higher. Esp after watching you. Respect.

[@guimesq1724]

It’s him 🔼🔼🔼

[@OhTofu]

YOU ALREADY DID, GUMMY

[@John-rl1fv]

Lol gummy hag is S teir

[@kieronkhan9095]

😅 hag

[@Vhillain]

I genuinely don't understand how it can be justified that the ONE ranged killer that is forced to M1 to achieve downs, has to spend extra valuable time reeling in survivors before actually dealing damage, and only has a max range on their power of 18 meters is better than the other two ranged killers. Sure, slinger being able to hit you through some little crack in the wall is absolutely insane but if he can't manage to get a hit after due to chain breaking he loses all reward for the amazing shot (unless you were healthy, but you wont go down if injured). A huntress hits you with a hatchet and you lose a health state, a slinger hits you with a shot and you get deep wounded, if you're already deep wounded and he can't M1 you in time you wont go down. The best huntress players are hitting people from the other end of the universe with a simultaneous double hatchet (and can have pressure on multiple gens at different sections of the map at the same time) but the best deathslingers still have to be within terror radius and even if insane in chase will only be pressuring the one survivor they are chasing. Idk maybe I'm crazy but I really don't understand how the objectively worse one is placed higher. Not saying he's bad by any means, good slingers are scary, but I don't think it makes sense to say he has more potential than huntress.

[@GEK0dev]

Nah putting hag in last is wild, She is genuinely a b-a tier

[@-jammy4123]

She is NOT a by a long shot.

[@GEK0dev]

@@-jammy4123 Then you clearly have never played mint rag/chains and a gold build, It’s very easy to win

[@romarrhimoon5088]

@@GEK0devhag is better then all the killers in d and c and she is better then half the killers in b I think you just don’t know how to play as her like some people do she is a really good killer

[@GEK0dev]

@@romarrhimoon5088 Yea, She is very strong under the right areas, Even on larger maps granted she’s M1, Still does decent, I haven’t lost with her yet

[@HOMOGRIMOIRE]

About Sadako, as someone whos put a TON of hours into her since her release, the thing that kills survivors the most is underestimating her. Not respecting a single part of her kit is deadly. Not respecting her invis during chase means you either get hit or have to throw the pallets earlier than you would've wanted to, so thats one more resource gone. And even then, some downed pallets can still be played with her invis. Being able to igore pallet stuns also helps with efficiency, being able to break pallets immediately. Not respecting her stealth means easy hits of course. Not respecting her map pressure means you can get caught in a bad position with no resources to use. And not respecting condemn means an early kill. She also straight up doesn't care about body blocking. M2 killers can get around it sometimes and all m1 killers have to deal with it always, but not her. Between that and condemn, if she wants someone dead, theres little a survivor team can do about it. As for her addons, I'll say, reiko's watch is good would love to see it basekit, but Old newspaper and bloody fingernail are my go to. Reiko's watch is useful, but ive found that its applications are not as wide as id like. Old newspaper's increased post manifestation invis can achieve a similar effect to reiko's watch in most scenarios, a hit or a down pallet, but has the lethality of immediately being able to attack that reiko's watch doesn't since youre manifested when using old bewspaper. And since reiko's watch is dropped, i run bloody finger nail, which gives the irreplaceable effects of being able to scout the map easier and also catch up to running survivors. All that veing said, while I wouldn't say she's low C, personally, but i can see C Tier. A good cooordinated team that knows how to counter her and can reset efficiently will leave her feeling pretty weak, ngl. However, she puts survivor in positions to make mistakes more than most killers, And as a hit and run killer who spreads damage, CoH still hurts her HARD.

[@exxon101]

I found this a lot over in League of Legends. I like to play non-meta champions, and people will frequently either underestimate them, or severely misunderstand some element of their kit because they're rarely seen.

[@averyperry7234]

As a Onryo main as well, I agree with you a lot. I love how accurately you explained her! If they don’t respect her power, survivors will mess up, the fact she’s able to just push body blocking aside, and fingernail being one of her best add-ons. Good comment.

[@lenacarey2333]

I completely agree with you on all fronts. I’m also a Sadako main. The thing that makes her so effective is that she can switch focus very easily, and start pressuring survivors where they aren’t putting in enough. It’s a LOT easier to fuck up against Sadako than most other killers. I’ve played against extremely good survivors and still had the upper hand against them due to multiple factors. I don’t think she’s above C tier, but I do think people underestimate her!!

[@jilujoilujiut2165]

People will also ignor taking a tape out of a tv right beside of a gen . Like damn you know they can tp right there

[@PAPA42069]

Indeed my good sir, and what happens is that almost everytime people underestimate her, even good squads of survivors do. Its kinda crazy

[@Leonardo.ohime.i]

by your logic oni should be much lower as he requires multiple survivor mess ups to get his power

[@Brutes_]

Actually all you need is one mistake. you can easily get his power from one hit then force a pallet drop,make them vault a pallet or vault a window a few times to get enough blood. its a lot quicker to get his power this way too

[@Oogwayne]

It's very easy to build up bloodlust at some filler pallet and get a guaranteed hit. You don't need to break every pallet thrown.

[@Leonardo.ohime.i]

@@Oogwayne yes it's easy , the problem is it takes so long and if the game is going at a fast pace you won't get your power in time

[@OhTofu]

This isn't really true, even in 1v1s with the best players in the world, you'll get a hit within 1-2 mins if you're good at killer. And that's 1 survivor using the ENTIRE map. In a 4v1 situation where you can pressure different players, make a point to take chases in weaker areas, and make plays to try to catch people slightly out of position, you can usually get a hit even faster than that. I'd argue any good killer player isn't going to get starved of power for any more than like... 2 generators worth (unless it's like gideon meat plant or something). And honestly he's so strong that even getting power at 3 gens left is enough to snowball

[@Leonardo.ohime.i]

@@OhTofui completely disagree, every tounament i've watched the oni was always getting destroyed. also getting your power at 3 gens left is bad enough because you can't afford making even 1 mistake that by the time you get your power again the game is over, all of this without considering umbreakable or other anti slugging perks/items which are extremely common among strong teams

[@WayneTechGaming]

One of the best tierlist videos I've watched. Looking forward to seeing more.

[@killerstreak1994]

I am currently top 30 trapper in the entire world. And I played against Elysium yesterday they absolutely made me feel like a baby killer and I still have a lot to learn. They were very humble about destroying me and I have a lot of respect for them.

[@RapistHitler420]

don't bother they're whiny little piss babies in pubs

[@imjustjay1]

How are you proof of a top 30 trapper?

[@Klrt-r7x]

Im top 29 trapper

[@anzb6727]

no u arent LMAO but u do u

[@NinjaLoopz]

Im top 28 trapper

[@Doncroft1]

I respect your takes, OhTofu! Thanks for explaining your thoughts so well.

[@OsuchinRiberu]

I think Deathslinger’s placement is accurate. I’ve always considered him on the border of low A tier and High B Tier. I think your analysis was spot on, it’s what I love about maining him. It’s a high risk, high reward gameplay.

[@kidscast5842]

His reload buffs go hard as well. Makes him quite a bit harder to get away from. If he was 115 then he would be an easy A tier.

[@Anemyya]

what I learned from this video is, that there are way too many characters in this game that are just shittier versions of others

[@daviduberhaus5336]

I stopped taking this seriously the moment you said Hag is the worst killer, when she doesn’t rely on add ons and can lock down a 3 gen fairly easily

[@Budd631]

As a Hag main since day 1: 3 gens are overrated if there are 4 survivors. Hit the traps and run to the DEAD zones of the map (opposite of the 3 Gen. Hag can’t chase. If she does she loses. She loses a war of attrition.

[@kilzfordays]

​@@Budd631Freddy is still miles worse

[@vin8754]

​@@Budd631 that's only assuming that all 4 survivors are going to play around you perfectly, they aren't, even a SWF discord group. That's without even factoring in her add ons and potential perks

[@johnnyrocketfingaz]

​@kilzfordays super cap

[@kilzfordays]

@@johnnyrocketfingaz How 💀 Freddy is the worst killer in the game

[@shuavonn]

Yay!! Ty for a great video! This helped me get through my work day ☺️

[@Frank_West]

I love, LOVE, that you put Billy at the top. I honestly don't know if he's better than Nurse or not, but what I do know is that he deserves it. Billy more than anyone deserves to be the best. After always being one of the most loved killers from the comm, then his unjustified nerf, and ultimate comeback; Billy of the Hills deserves more than anyone to be #1. Hillious Billious is the fucking GOAT!

[@sebrothering1274]

BILLY MAINS UNITE! In all honesty I stuck with him through the horrid overheat era and the past few months have been so much fun. We deserve this.

[@subscriberswithOnlyonevi-zm2ix]

Glazing

[@Leo-ob4tg]

Wise words

[@שגיאאדרי-ו4צ]

He's still #3

[@kidscast5842]

I am just so nervous about the upcoming changes they scheduled for him. Unless it’s buffs I’m sad 😢

[@ChaoticCasuals]

I rarely watch videos over an hour on KZbin but this was fun to watch because ohtofu's take , where else are you gonna get hag in last place lol but he makes a good point

[@4EverPwnNoobs]

I'm a P100 Huntress main with over 2500+ hours on her and I couldn't agree more about huntress being B tier. GOOD survivors will make your life hard with her for sure, using high walls to their expense, certain trees/bush tiles on some maps, and some of the indoor maps are just hell for her due to survs passing through corners every chance they get (like in lerys) you don't even have time to raise a hatchet at that point. 7 hatchets is nothing when survs are baiting you at those 50/50 spots and are very aware of their surroundings. She's very strong but really good survivors will bait well and be aware.

[@kidscast5842]

I feel like a lot of people miss this point tbh. With her raise speed and cool-down add-ons she gets a lot more threatening but she still arguably gets outpaced by slinger and trickster in 1v1s

[@therockfan10001]

Ghostface when mmr was more strict became unplayable for me. I used to main him religiously but there was always one survivor taking me out of my ability all game rendering me absolutely useless. I love his buffs, but his biggest problem is how easily you can make him an m1 killer with no power.

[@jasong.5887]

I think knight needs the pinhead or nurse targeting, and the guard route is determined automatically between you and that point, so you aren't stunned.

[@jawadbakhshi31]

I guess everyone has their own tier list and that’s why we love the game. Thanks for sharing your thoughts

[@ThedreadrogueYT]

You play Oni because he’s fun, I main him because I enjoy being a rage-driven demon who can violently slam survivor’s heads in the dirt with a club. And as an added bonus I have anger management issues irl. We are not the same.

[@Lucas11061]

The only WEIRD placement for me here was PH, I honestly don't see him above Xenomorph, for example

[@wellwellywellswweellllswel1939]

Which ph, we have two ph

[@SausageAndWaffle]

@@wellwellywellswweellllswel1939 P Head, obviously

[@alimajed-3803]

@@wellwellywellswweellllswel1939the one with head in it

[@wellwellywellswweellllswel1939]

@@alimajed-3803 IN it? INSIDE OF IT?

[@themarketgardener]

They have different strengths for sure and playing PH against good surv is probably harder than Xeno. Xeno has the mobility and tracking going for him, coupled with arguably better anti-loop because it’s harder to counter. PH has the best tunneling in the game but absolutely 0 mobility

[@beniciovillarreal9345]

The only thing I have to say is that hag is very perk dependent. Good players who know how to play against hag is reslly hard, but i really think all it takes is 1 mistake. Things like stfbl, dark devotion, or other perks to help with a hit can pretty much end the game if one person is caught off guard. I understand her weaknesses but I think if you mess up against a hag its over.

[@LUCASDBD]

good tierlist . maybe now with the buffs knight.doc and nemesis will be B

[@Matt-ci1yl]

is there a tier list of stupidest decisions made by BHVR?

[@kenwashere5408]

Number 1: 🏒 🥅

[@themarketgardener]

S tier: Billy’s Overheat “rework” because they thought “He was the most balanced killer in the game that needed a few adjustments”

[@AboM7md65]

I relly disagree with pig placement as pig main I am pretty sure it is D tier Most of my games trying to go for dash hits and only 2 maps (which by the way the best maps for her without dash) U can consider good for it, and it is RPD and Midwich And one important thing u must go for 2 of the 3 dash addons to make it useful a little With the big nerf of her slow down and useless stealth there is no way a good pig could win against good survivors without tunneling

[@YagamiTrala]

If you main Pig and think her stealth is useless I don't have much to say... Maybe try actually using it?

[@AboM7md65]

@@YagamiTrala It is relly bad and useless in big maps and open maps which is most of the maps then only way for it to be Ok or good is indoor maps and it is 5 and Lyres and the game are not good with it then we have just 3 maps and its her best maps the Lab and Midwich and RPD and we have a big problem. how walking 90% will give u any value if u dont use aura or Information perks. Remember u have no chase power and ur slowdown is not real threaten

[@kidscast5842]

@@AboM7md65her slowdown can be huge though especially with an add-on or two. Pig is really not that bad anymore and with a bit of info her stealth is decent since if you approach a gen in say a jungle jim that has a lot of los blockers then you can get a free hit with no chance of being detected.

[@ShroudedGhostface]

Tofu, you KNOW deep down that ghostface is B tier if the ghosty player good at stalking and ambushing. Listen to your heart next time and give ghosty the B tier spot he deserves! 🙌

[@cds_234]

shut up bozo, you fell off

[@SausageAndWaffle]

Man, I find it hard to believe that Dredge isn't a solid C tier. He can teleport around most the map without any setup. He excels with perks like alien instinct, which on most killers is just a shittier BBQ & Chilli, but since Dredge can zoom all over the map, he can sneak up on the one spotted survivor while they're oblivious to ruin their day. You can also get loose tracking mid-teleport from auras and sounds. Nightfall is very very strong. Proper remnant placement can shut down loops more easily than I think Dredge is getting credit for here. It's true that he can get dogged by bad locker spawns and Tofu brings up a good point about some maps having areas that will never have lockers. Aura perks can help with that, but it's still a significant weakness. Because of that, there's probably no way he'll ever be higher than C, but I think think this placement is a bit harsh.

[@Luke-qf5tq]

As a dredge main, i can say hes one of the most difficult killers to play but when you master him, he has the potential to be high B to very low A tier. His remnant can turn most strong loops into 50/50s and nightfall is an underrated power.

[@Wo.o]

dredge is trash against loopers

[@Neekowitz]

Lol the most respect I've received for a twins player. The best. Believe it. You made excellent points n put my twins right where they should be. A tier n most certainly s tier if any* survivors out of the 4 don't know some counters. EVEN SO...my fastest 4k is 2:42. Survivors in 2 man squads are the best way tho I've played enough to still break through. I also use leverage so if you are going to heal, best make it quick before my next down...while you also worry about gens not being done cause you also have a teammate on hook, a teammate in the ground, or a teammate in a corner hook far from objectives...maybe even a dead zone. Since the QOL update for twins I am damn near unstoppable THO* I do have to try still. Every round. My exp with the lesser twins before the patch I made work, I knew w the appropriate * buffs I would hardly lose (twins kill rate shot up past 63% recently). I would love to test my twins against some of the best....the only test left. Anyways great dude. Excellent tier list for sure

[@mmm1217]

Vecna seems a bit understated. If you're a Vecna with your spells up, and you reach a pallet, you have four options. Keep going/swing through, Mage Hand, Flight of the Damned, and Fly (ideally with Potion of Speed). The counters to this are, respectively, drop pallet, keep running, crouch, and either not drop the pallet or stay at the dropped pallet. Dropping the pallet will stun the Killer if they're too close, but if they read you're going to do that right Mage Hand will leave you animation-locked. Throwing it early means he can Fly over it, and if you've started running to make distance with the dropped pallet they're probably gonna catch up. The way to counter the Fly is to stay at the pallet to vault it as he descends, but if you've started running away you might not get it before he regains collision and bodyblocks the pallet. Meanwhile, if you're not crouching and the Vecna distances it right, you're gonna get smacked by the FotD insta-tech. If you think it's coming and crouch, though, you'll lose a lot of distance if you're wrong. Also, if the loop is short enough that Fly-blocking it doesn't really matter, it's also probably short enough to be able to get a mid-animation FotD hit and enough that you can pause the vault with Mage Hand. Notably, if the survivor is mid-animation when Mage Hand is used it'll vacuum them to whichever side of the pallet is closer. Lastly, it's entirely possible to fake a power. Right now, we're in the phase where most survivors know how to handle Mage Hand if there's a decent distance between you and them. Mage Hand makes the pallet glow when you're targeting it, and a lot of players will see that and assume you're going to block/raise it and keep going. I just highlight the pallet once or twice and odds are good as not that they'll greed it and get hit without even needing to put my power on cooldown. Similarly, since the different spells all put him in 'primed' animations, a Survivor might try to crouch when FotD looks like it's about to be put on top of them. Again, faking it and making them crouch loses them a lot of distance. He's not an S-tier Killer. But I'd make a decent argument for being A-tier according to this criteria, because a Vecna that knows what they're doing introduces far more complex mindgames that are easy to mess up. That is just my opinion though, and what I've seen in my experience from playing and viewing people. Basically nothing guarantees a hit just for doing it; even shooting at a slightly elevated position with FotD can still allow the survivors to try and get between the gaps of the skeletons. But he can play 'I know you know I know you know' like (k)no(w)body's business.

[@codesterking]

Great comment, glad someone mentioned vecna. Played around 200+ games with vecna from his release and I agree with your points, I think he’s much stronger than tofu gave him credit for, even against good survivors. He can essentially force so many 50/50s mid chase with mage hand/fly/FoTD that makes him super difficult to go against. Using orb to deny mage items is also a great denial tool for proactive survivors who grab the magic items. Plus, the effects (aside from the mage hand one + hand of vecna) aren’t too worthwhile getting with his powerful chase in mind, that using the magic chests can even act as slowdown which can add up Another aspect tofu didn’t mention is his unhook game. Its incredible if you have FoTD up because of the fixed animation of unhooking which can make him pretty deadly in these scenarios. Additionally, Tofu’s points in him being a 4.6 killer when mage hand + FoTD on cooldown doesn’t happen against a skilled Vecna. A good vecna player is able to use only one spell to get a hit on most tiles. After a chase is over, unhooking + finding a survivor is a lot of downtime and often results in a spells being ready to use when a new chase starts

[@mmm1217]

@@codesterking Honestly, don't count the other magic items out. The FotD magic item lets you avoid hits from lower elevations by letting you see the gaps between the skeletons and the Eye can allow for some very impressive rescues. It's poor in chase but has cost me some hooks due to timely rescues. They're not necessarily as good as the Mage Hand magic item and the Hand of Vecna, but they're worth getting. While the least of the set, the Fly magic item can tell you some useful info, both in solo queue (he's not near you and can't come near you for a while) and in teams (being able to relay info). Doesn't really help for loop play, but it has its uses. Dispelling Sphere I often use for info if I don't need to disable someone and having that means I might think someone isn't there when they are. Plus, all of them in teams can call out when a spell is on cooldown. Again, not nearly as useful as the listed items, but not useless, the search is quick enough that it's probably worth it if Bag of Holding isn't in play, and the innate aura read on all of the standard magic items never hurts.

[@mmm1217]

@iakwnshusu I'm very sorry to hear that someone forced you to reply to a random comment a month ago and I hope you recover from the traumatic experience.

[@chancegeiger1546]

Give tier 1 myers wallhacks for 10 seconds at the beg of a game. Would make him viable against decent teams and its such a tiny change. Could call the ability myers huntdown or something generic. It def fits his lore too since he seems to have a 6th sense about where his prey are throughout the movie.

[@dadrako1581]

No just give him scratched mirror wall hack. He can’t stay in the tier long and it allows for easy hits to help with the start of the game.

[@nickdavid1846]

Maybe have the mirror shard add ons as basekit. I think just map wide wall hacks would be wierd because that's just lethal pursuer at that point.

[@armisael6965]

dredge below legion just about gave me a brain aneurysm. while i’d tend to agree gregg’s locker teleport can feel a little underwhelming outside nightfall/without boat key (and his absolute joke of a stealth power), his remnant is consistently the best part of his kit and one of my favorite chase powers in dbd. smart remnant placement can completely stuff the “Hold W” counterplay at most loops, and he’s the only killer since doctor that has the ability to just absolutely nullify shack. with all that being said, i’d still consider him to he squarely around mid-B tier, but he’s MY B-TIER KILLER, DAMMIT!

[@heretic-668]

Yeah, Dredge main here, and D is nuts. Solid B tier seems right to me, mostly because of the crappy locker placement randomness. But the map pressure you can apply is nuts.

[@momoseventh]

really enjoyed listening to you ranking the killers, the only placement i disagree with entirely is chucky. chucky is very easily countered by good comms and prerunning, and being a 4.4 who has to catch up against various exhaustions basically makes you a much worse spirit. just my opinion though, great tier list anyway :)

[@onekillben5806]

As a chucky main i agree, chucky really struggles against distance cause you waste your slice and dice to cut distance but the cool down takes for ever which leads to long chases but you 95% of the time get the down.

[@Herbster0]

Spirit can use her power for mobility better and has 0 slowdown foming out of phase. She is easilly bette than chuncky

[@AboM7md65]

Billy will struggle a lot in indoor maps Even relly good Billy may cant win against good survivor

[@שגיאאדרי-ו4צ]

Exactly billy and blight struggle in indoor maps but nurse don't care what map U even get😂😂

[@AlightBULLDOG]

I disagree on Hag. I've gone 19 for 20 games with a mediocre build. My games are long and it does come down to a war of attrition, but so long as youve kept pressure on the closest gens, trap hooked survivors to catch someone rescuing, play smart, and run #1 rusty shackles, #2 "dried cicada or mint rag", and mori for offering and you can pretty much pressure a select few gens till they mess up.

[@themr_wilson]

Yup, that's where Billy goes. That Overcharge catapulted him into the stratosphere

[@LappyAwoo]

Sadako is definitely B tier, you can prevent people from getting rid of their condemn and easily apply 2 or 3 stacks on them and hook them to lock their condemn, while also applying stacks to anyone near an active tv, you are inmune to stuns and can trick people into dropping pallets very easily or get an easy hit if they don't, you are inmune to bodyblocks which is perfect when you are going for someone who's close to being condemned, you severely punish anyone who thinks they can afford to ignore 2 or 3 stacks while doing a gen, usually the first ones to die are the ones rushing gens, you have massive map pressure that you should always use in order to turn off tvs yourself, since that cooldown is way shorter and prevents people from getting rid of condemn, honestly once you have 1 or 2 hooks on people with 2 or 3 condemn stacks the game starts going in your favor consistently because they can afford less and less time to repairs or healing, since you can easily get them close to condemn with a few teleports, also if you go against a team where at least 1 survivor doesn't understand how she works the whole team gets screwed which is like 99% of public matches

[@BannedGaming-jc4ic]

My main problems with current onryo is #1 that she has no counter to tapes unlike og sadako with passive condemn while survivors are carrying tapes and previous sadako who broke survivors tapes and gave them two stacks of condemned if she hit them, and #2 current sadako’s power HEAVILY encourages her to slug, as hooking only locks in 3 stacks if they have 3 stacks encouraging you to slug survivors until you’re sure they have 3 stacks. So imo I’d either make it so hitting a survivor with a tape gives them one stack of condemned and breaks their tape or make it so hooking survivors with tapes gives the survivor a stack of condemn and locks in an extra stack of condemn. But that’s just my opinion

[@apertioopening3425]

Nice video! I really wish this game was balanced around average skill and not the bottom quintile of players, so many characters on this list are so fun when you're playing against noobs, but the moment there's a competent survivor it's game over for you D:

[@MonkeyBurrito]

WE LOVE OHTOFU WOOOOOO

[@Owlouiseeeeeee81]

I luv seeing other players opinions on killers. I find this fascinating 👌

[@jilujoilujiut2165]

You know why the creation of skull merchant is stupid . Survivors cant deal with onryos tapes or pinheads box yet somehow they thought skull merchants drones wouldnt be a problem . Really the issue i have with the drones is people running in them and setting them off or training the killer on you while your trying to disable . Also nobody knows you can just run through and stand still when the scan hits and you dont get a stack . But again people cant deal with pinheads box . How do you expect them to deal with her .

[@Undiscoverd20]

Exactly dude. People keep running into her drones recklessly outside of chase when they can easily avoid the rays and then they essentially throw the match by playing so badly and giving her lock on stacks and then complaining she's OP when she's actually pretty weak lol

[@1MakeMus1c]

I think it would be a cool idea to add gameplay to what you are talking about👍 good content

[@SGEnjoyer]

despite some goofy placements (Hag, Huntress mostly) it's always nice to hear different opinons. do a tierlist on how much fun you have w killers, Tofu. we know we know, Hag's gonna be bottom tier yet again lol no idea if you've done such before, but it's always fun to hear how favorite creators rank their enjoyment at any given time.

[@Freehunnaa]

How strong do y’all think the singularity will be after his update ?

[@henryrussell7326]

Really really really high a tier

[@hazeuk13]

I play artist main and i love to play her. On "flat maps" she is an S, on maps with at leat 2 floors she is a A-B :( But it's not impossible, to kill all survivors on a difficult map

[@themr_wilson]

Don't have much time, I skipped to the end to see where they're at. Solid! Though I've long put Artist eeking into S-tier and over Spirit. Carmina is nutty! Snipe a survivor across map while in chase and smacking another survivor is so satisfying

[@Someone-cq6ue]

I really Respect the List and like some of the Placements a lot but as a P100 Legion Main i would have put them infront of Freddy or Trapper because if we speak about the good Surivors on Coms and everything you will almost never catch them in a bad spot.

[@vellycanelly7429]

Funnily enough about Merchant’s stealth, I experimented by going through one match by just placing drones and immediately recalling them just for the stealth and survivors still hated it. It just goes to show how dumb it lowkey is.

[@gpabuser4859]

Really enjoyed listening to this, though might just be my preference that I prefer videos that I can play in the background and listen to where there isn't as much visual needed vs. something like a gameplay video

[@notreally3345]

I would love to see a Billy vs Nurse showcase. I also believe that the #1 spot belongs to him.

[@winterknight6717]

Can he blink through walls, loops, pallets, etc. sure he has amazing mobility but he still has to deal with loops and pallets while Nurse doesn't yes he has an insta down ability but so what can his chainsaw hit someone behind a wall nope but guess who can Nurse, another thing Billy is map dependent while Nurse doesn't care about the map.

[@itsjuan1809]

@iakwnshusunurse is nurseversal bro🤷🏽‍♂️

[@mechbean6953]

2hr video, and a meta tier list video. My god, we are eating well today!

[@lenacarey2333]

You cooked with this one, Tofu. I agree almost completely with your entire tier list. My only disagreement is Sadako’s placement, and even then, I think she should only go a few places higher

[@agoober-qm2lg]

Dredge in d tier is crazy

[@Doncroft1]

I'd put him in C tier myself. He's a fairly weak killer. On his worst maps, he's F tier.

[@VioIetteMolotov]

@@Doncroft1 Dredge on its bad maps is even worse than F tier lol

[@Doncroft1]

@@VioIetteMolotov Z tier?????

[@VioIetteMolotov]

@@Doncroft1 Probably lol. Mind you I am iridescent so yeah. Dredge is AWFUL on its worst maps, even against good solo survivors. And I say this as someone who mains this fookin killer.

[@Doncroft1]

@VioIetteMolotov Brother, you know iri grade doesn't mean anything right? It's not a rank. Just 1 million BP on the 13th if you finish it. Less if you don't. There haven't been ranks in DBD since 2021.

[@maxryan897]

Nurse doesn't take the basement stairs and using chucky's power for mobility is so embarassingggggg. this mAy be a hot take but my top 5 is nurse, blight, spirit, billy, chucky. (I love artist and huntress sm theres so many female characters with good cosmetics and powers)

[@emanuelcruz-lopez]

Ngl this is not a bad tier list. i would just move hilly hehind the nurse. Move more spirt to A tier. Dont know enough about chucky/vecna, but I would move onryo up a little and bubba ahead of deathslinger.

[@Korhi]

Incredibly based putting Billy at #1, I think more people need to realize how insanely strong he is right now, the DBD community is still obsessed with treating him like their pookie for some reason when he's legit busted right now.

[@Hex05]

When a killer is that map dependent, is forced I to M1 and denied their power on so many loops he is not near #1, strong but not #1.

[@Korhi]

@Hex05 is he really anymore map dependent than Nurse or Blight, though? I feel like every map Billy is bad on is relatively the same as those two, and Billy can still curve around loops and get instadowns. Hell, I think the maps they're all bad on, nearly every Killer is bad on, save a few exceptions like stealth killers on Hawkins.

[@madithevampirequeen9316]

hes absolutely not #1, hes definitely top 5 but saying hes #1 aint even subjective that is just wrong as long as nurse exists, the killer that literally ignores core components of the game. billy is cracked but hes still confined to the rules of the game, and on indoor maps hes nearly useless meanwhile nurse is always at max strength regardless of map because she doesnt play by the rules just in general this list is completely cooked, as much as i love tofu idk what he was smoking when he made this, so many just wrong placements

[@romarrhimoon5088]

Huntress low B is actually a crime she is so much better then deathslinger and trickster and chucky above spirit hag at the bottom of d she is not the worst killer she is so much better then all the killers you put in d and c and clown in c tier is crazy he is definitely a f tier killer skull merchant behind pig is wild unknown should be high B same with vecna huntress should be in a demo should be in a this has gots to be one of the worst lists I have seen in a while these are some very hot takes and the list is just wrong billy above everyone is wild this is just wrong. I do think this is really interesting and it’s your opinion so I can’t get mad at that and I definitely do think billy deserves S I just don’t think he is better then nurse or blight

[@Lrn31718]

Clown is fine you just suck at him

[@NotRealHandle1]

When Vecna's flight is on cooldown, survivors hold W very hard to catch back up

[@y_conflict2930]

I absolutely love Billy and I main him but I was also a nurse main at 1 point and I’ll still say nurse still have the edge on him just because she ignore all the basic fundamentals of the game. Yes Billy can insta down get around the map really quick but he still has to play around pallets while nurse just doesn’t care. When I play survivor I’m much more excited to see a Billy or nurse regardless of their skill.

[@wilgotstrandenwik4194]

18:37 With one jag build, Hag can become an s tier killer, demi used the build in his last video (DBD: This is the most EVIL killer build...)

[@coolshirtkid]

so nice to see someone agree that billy is insanely strong. back revving is so busted there’s 0 counterplay in many scenarios

[@opticblastx]

If Hag was 4.6 most of her problems would've been gone

[@YoLaithChill]

Bro is the yapatron

[@beatsbybrandon902]

This list is cooked. Huntress, DS and Vecna in B is crazy

[@InterchangeofNight]

Interesting list. I agree with most placements. I main the Cowboy and he can either feel like A-Tier when you manage to zone people or land every shot or can be C-Tier when you get a big map with many strong paletts (Disturbed Ward for example). I would definitely say Artist and Huntress are stronger than him.

[@JabbaTheHutt96]

I don't know what's worse if billy in as first or hag and dredge in D tier

[@driftingbout297]

wraith better than huntress is def THEE take

[@theDontiilev]

Vecna is C tier. I went against cracked survivors the other day with my best build. Flight of the Damned does nothing even with the spawn hit tech, super predictable. Mage Hand is useless if they know how to do "the thing" consistantly and fly can be absolutely cucked in windows by just standing on them and paying close attention to vecna's animation. Other than that relics can change the game. Yes its only against good survivors, but they can turn you into a gimmicky m1 with 1/4 of map traversal twice every minute.

[@nickdavid1846]

What is "the thing"

[@gsp1995]

​@@nickdavid1846 Need to know too as a fellow Vecna main

[@theDontiilev]

@@nickdavid1846 When vecna lifts the pallet, simply bodyblock the center of the pallet during his animation and spam spacebar, you will drop it on him before the hit can register. If he blocks it, identify the loop and loop around the longer side and drop the pallet, its an 80/20.

[@nickdavid1846]

@theDontiilev oh interesting. I mean I kind of like it, even as someone who loves playing vecna. I like that he has counter play, but he can also counter play the survivors

[@theDontiilev]

@@nickdavid1846 the counterplay stops being counterplay when the only thing preventing the survivor from doing it is atrocious ping. mage hand is absolutely useless agains 4 people that know "the thing" and have decent ping. thats what can be absolutely frustrating abt it. xenomorphs tail has counterplay, mage hand has a password.

[@jilujoilujiut2165]

Hillbilly defiantly number one map mobility and speed of the blight with insta down and he dosent have to worry about charges

[@heimrheljar]

Who is the “Kurt” pinhead. I wanna follow him 😢

[@thijs6439]

as a nemi main i can tell you that a good nemi is easy A tier, also huntress should be alot higher other then that its a good list

[@Henry.8415]

So, these are the changes i would make: -Chucky is definitely not S tier neither A tier, hes like a top of B for me, artist is more like bottom A and wesker too, sng is high A, if you wanna put 5 killers in S tier then it would be twins. Then i think the tierlist would be more accurate, of course there are more little positioning changes i would suggest but i would be writting an entire bible more than im already doing xd

[@xCynic]

artist easily is top A tier. her anit loop is diabolical and a good artist will make almost any loop unsafe. you can also get hits from across the map with good placement and prediction on where the survivor will go and can pressure the whole map.

[@linkthesimpofzelda6720]

Chucky is easily A

[@Undiscoverd20]

100% agreed on Skull Merchant. She's hilariously easy to win against but SoloQ teammates keep recklessly running into her drones outside of chase giving her so many free injures and downs

[@kidscast5842]

The stealth on her with no audio cue at all like with other stealth killers is so annoying and I can see how it easily catches people out and gives her free hits.

[@Adorabuds]

Huntress being at the very bottom of B tier has got to be a joke.

[@Lrn31718]

How dare he put my favorite killer lower than S.😡

[@Adorabuds]

@@Lrn31718 no he's just wrong. Same with Chucky being above spirit he's just wrong.

[@othersidelawn]

Ghosty in C, Hag last, and Billy 1st deserves life in solitary confinement

[@I_do_weed]

Agreed but ghosty could honestly be a c tier killer but billy in s tier def not and hag in d is criminal

[@indigo...]

I would say spirit is S tier as long as cherry blossom exists in the way it does Removes almost all counterplay for survs with a downside that shouldnt matter to good spirits

[@chriscline7905]

I've been saying Billy #1 since rework in your & other creators comments & it never gets a like or anyone who agrees. I almost feel like I'm cheating in the game if I bring low pro & boots. Blight, Nurse, Oni, etc are great but don't have insta down from opening bell. I'm in chase within seconds & they rarely get 2 gens done every game including indoor maps & I have close to 8,000 hrs since early 2018 so I'm not playing at low MMR

[@sgtbishop]

Tofu... my guy... this tier list is not it. Nurse is still the strongest, Skull Merchant is DEFINITELY not that low, Singularity is better than Twins and Plague. Oni is too high. Vecna is stronger then where you put him.

[@lrickprado]

Give Hag 4.6 speed 🙏

[@jonathanz9895]

No

[@peterbakai5614]

Remove the trap disarm​@@jonathanz9895

[@Nice_Boy_555]

Honestly just make it so that if she teleports immediately to a survivor it will always be a hit no matter what. That'd make people way more scared to trigger traps

[@Acrylate9]

Being a spirit main you actually get the thrill of seeing those moments you know you jumpscared someone😂 Room quiet and HEADPHONES FULL BLAST BABY! And I won't lie as plague also itend not to use red almost at all I wait for the perfect moment in the match the time it's crucial for survivors to try get time back most of the time it's when I got 2 downs then I go to my 1st fountain usage just to add that extra pressure at the worst times for survivors

[@assassinops7288]

I definitely agree vecna is B tier especially since they nerfed mage hand which was his only decent skill at getting downs and downing with skeletons is super situational

[@thatfishguy4991]

Skull merchant is the most overrated killer in terms of power. Also I gotta disagree about Chucky. Slice and dice hits are only unavoidable in the open space as you’re running between loops. Crouching around corners is pretty consistent counterplay against his slice and dice because it’s nearly impossible to do that flick.

[@Undiscoverd20]

Fully agreed. I find Skull Merchant incredibly easy to win against, only the Undetectable gets me unexpectedly sometimes but other than that I win way more than I lose against her. People just recklessly run into her drones outside of chase

[@piggies120]

Myers is S tier tombstone piece with play with your food its not fair

[@gsp1995]

All killers are S tier cuz I'm escaping on 1% of my matches

[@agentvenom3342]

I didn’t know that your character model can get in the way. Oh, breaking him out. Also, I don’t think that’s the only problem he has I think also, the reason why he breaking them out is inconsistent is because of the servers because I’m pretty sure the servers have to say yes you broke him out or no you did, and in that regard is finicky on both sides, and makes it not fun also his lane suffers from the same thing if the server says that you’re not leaning even though you push the button you’re not gonna lean

[@Heavy_In_240P]

Chucky is as strong as nurse? What

[@Aci_yt]

He has the most op stealth of any killer in the game besides skull merchant, so it makes sense ig

[@stefancimpean7499]

He is below Nurse but he is S tier clearly.

[@DanielSilva-hx5qg]

​@@stefancimpean7499WTF... Chucky is trash.

[@shiver8082]

@@Aci_ythaha what are you doing here

[@brusselseastside3546]

@@shiver8082I’ve seen him before in dbd comments

[@6Kharma]

My top 5 list is def #1 Nurse #2 Chucky #3 blight #4 spirit #5 Billy

[@themarketgardener]

I think you’re underestimating Huntress’s slugging potential too, even against good players you can punish their mistakes with slugging and end the game in a small time just like your argument why Billy is S tier. Personally she’s A tier even against good survivors if the Huntress is good too.

[@jilujoilujiut2165]

O just like skull merchant people cant deal with alien because people dont ever set up turrets or they put them right by the tunnel which is what happens when i play against him . Always in power

[@dawnsluna5702]

I think a good addition to this sort of tier list could be something like a variability factor. An example would be an A tier killer where played at their best is A, maybe even S tier, but if they get countered could slide down closer to B tier. And the opposite goes for some lower tier killers.

[@swatson5699]

I think Doctor is extremely overrated by the community. I have him in D tier. The main flaw, that Tofu touched on, is that it probably averages to 5 or 6 shocks on filler pallets before Doctor can get a hit. Besides taking a long time and losing bloodlust, the biggest issue with this is that the pallet is not dropped. So in the next chase in that area the Doctor has to shock the survivor another 5 or 6 times. Every other M1 killer will force the pallet down, destroy the pallet, and then be done with it for the rest of the game. In the short term this is worse for other M1 killers but late into the game they’ll have created multiple dead zones. This doesn’t happen for Doctor meaning late game chases take significantly longer.

[@Bruhmoment1962]

​@LumiaFenrir-nn2pzDoctor with good add-ons=A tier

[@Mr_Rope]

I loveee dredge Dredge main for life

[@archerhills7714]

People are gonna hate on me but I think knight is high B, his ability to pressure gens, hooks, and people is only outmatched by singularity, but unlike singularity knight can just patrol other gens while having pressure on a survivor at the same time. While some add ons feel required like the map of the realm with the new rework coming soon I think things will feel less required and gives some freedom to run other add ons (still holding onto call to arms like I’m about to die tho). P.S. here’s a good knight tip, when sending a guard over to a hook and you know someone is there about to unhook spawn your guard after the unhook is completed, for those who don’t know a guards hunt ends if survivor unhooks so spawning a guard after removes risk and applies pressure at the the same time.

[@archerhills7714]

Pls don’t hate this is just an opinion, I know he’s not that good 😢

[@zello4075]

new knight is not higher than mid c lol

[@TheAceCook]

negative aura points for skull merchant since her design looks like she had a $25 budget and her walk animation is not at all accurate to actual speed