Killing in Senseless, Cold-Blooded Revenge | The Case of Jody Herring

A troubled woman in Vermont with an addiction to drugs and alcohol, loses custody of her three children. And while family, friends, and the DCF are there for her in her time of need, she never saw it that way. In fact, quite the opposite... Her revenge plan would do nothing but devestate two families, and the town of Barre.
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00:00 Intro
01:02 Vermont, Jody Herring
02:01 Jody Herring's history
05:02 No Stranger To The Law
08:10 A Growing Revenge
10:47 7th August, 2015
12:56 The Life of Lara Sobel
14:40 "You know what you did"
16:11 An extended aftermath
18:33 Legal Proceedings
21:07 Questions and Answers
22:58 Outro
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[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Hey Coffee Crew! We’re exploring the world of Jody Herring today… Which seems very dark and deluded if you ask me. This case was a challenge - hardly any history or media to Jody before the fact, so I wanted to put myself to the test. What do you think of Jody Herring’s case? Was she doomed to be a murderer from the start? What external mistakes were made along the way? Please let me know below.

[@Rmomar]

Some people don't need to speak, their 👀 speak louder... She was mentally sick and there was no intervention... And her previous crimes and not new to law made her think she can always come back to society. Oops!!! Not this time.

[@Ibdabadman]

Pin this bro

[@saddane6897]

Have you noticed the green reflection on your head ? its mostly around the top but also beard get greenish too now and then.

[@HyDefHero]

You should look into the case of Cassidy rainwater. Pictures were found on the dark web of her in a cage, which led the police to the guys property. When they arrested him the guy was eating a sandwich with human remains and he even joked that he fed some ribs to his neighbors. Still a developing case with 20+ suspected victims and even suspected ties to the Springfield 3.

[@HyDefHero]

I forgot to mention she was found skinned and hanging like a deer. When they went to question the guy before the arrest, the police could see meat hooks hanging through a window in the bathroom.

[@VomicaEmanio]

One thing I have never been able to understand is why, when children are taken into custody for their own safety, they wouldn't take *all* siblings into custody as well. If this mother was so unsuited for parenthood that they took her two oldest away, why the hell would they leave the youngest (and thus most vulnerable) behind!?!?

[@loralubimaia2783]

I was thinking the same thing

[@UnnoticedKIN]

Yeah, I've always been confused by that as well. Especially since while it's understandable that sometimes children aren't safe with their parents and need to be taken away from them, to be separated from your parents can still be quite traumatic for children. Why add to the trauma by taking away their siblings as well?

[@Elegant_Sausage]

I don't know. When my half sister had her kids removed, the first ones they took were the oldest ones and it has always puzzled me.

[@MachineCode0]

Because there are groups of people and organizations that fight the legislation and implementation of laws surrounding child protection and the ability for the government to remove children from problem families/situations. They employ lobby groups and any political means available to minimize the ability of authorities to act. Whenever there are weird nonsensical laws like this it is invariably because of some special interest group, whether it be on behalf of religious groups, corporations or others, that have fought the implementation and what ends up remaining are weird compromise situations that make no logical sense. Still probably better than nothing but overall wholly insufficient.

[@EFFITEFFIT]

@@MachineCode0 You said a whole lotta shit and somehow still managed to not answer the question

[@winry2357]

I have a coworker who has been fostering kids for decades. She’s had quite a few where the court decided to give the kids back to their parents and the kids end up dead in a dumpster. It’s heartbreaking to hear her stories. I hate to say it, but some parents should never get their kids back. Period.

[@TheMollyBea]

Unfortunately your right about that. I know of a baby that died in her home while under DCF care. They let the baby go back home with its mother who was a known heroin addict, DCF was supposed to be checking in frequently and one day the baby was dead. The mother used one night, put the baby in bed with her and woke the morning to find her baby had suffocated during the night while she was passed out cold. So sad.

[@TheSuicune7]

I got lucky myself. My birth parents were evil, to the point that my “stepdad” placed a fake car bomb to threaten the case worker trying to stop it. Fortunately, God Himself intervened and got me out, and adopted into a better family. The chances of this happening are astronomical, and I am thankful every day that I was given this chance to escape the darkness. Who knows where or who I would be had this not happened, thank God that did not happen.

[@Prawnsacrifice]

@@TheSuicune7 god isn't real you were right the first time you were lucky 🙂👍

[@TheSuicune7]

@@Prawnsacrifice I don’t believe in these astronomical chances happening on their own though. I do firmly believe in God, just not the bigoted asshole the Christians made Him into

[@KathyHussey063]

Don't hate to say it, it's the pure truth. Getting pregnant or getting a woman pregnant is no assurance at all that a person should have a child. It should take more to be allowed to have children, if you ask me, like ability to provide shelter, food for your own self, employment, childcare mandatory childcare and developmental psychology classes (like months of weekly classes) AND both prospective parents should have to have been together at least 2 full years WITHOUT there being any domestic violence reports filed or restraining orders by either of them.They should have to pass some tests on how not to scar your children too. We make fishermen have to get licenses, for crying out loud but any nut can have 8 kids and just walk away from them. Many should never be allowed to conceive at all, and those who've screwed up with their first, 2nd, 3rd time, should not be allowed to conceive anymore. Like one lady I read about had 6 children living in long term foster care but she got married again and got pregnant again....

[@leanderrowe2800]

Jody's Mom is also responsible for this tragedy. She kicked her kids out when Jody was only 11. As a parent, it breaks my heart to even imagine how those poor kids survived.

[@thumperasasha2201]

Loveless unfortunately, but Jody's kids loved/love her. Unfortunately the older 2 also struggle with addiction now.

[@leenaholmes2271]

Irresponsible parents are equally responsible for what their neglected/abused child/children goes on to do later in life. I really wish people wouldn't so randomly and without any plan/thought, give birth. Like if the person/couple is too young, not settled financially or otherwise...! These reckless, unprepared (to have children) "parents" are responsible for future criminal/murderers as well.

[@melodo80]

​@@leenaholmes2271 def agree. But not all people who have kids thay arent financially secure turn this way, part of it like you saud is the dysfuntional parent, then its what the child does, do they rise above the hardships or not? I was abondoned by my dad at 12 and my mither was always more worried about her relatiinship than me. But when i finally found someone to spend my life with, even though we struggle, we struggle together and have each others back. I got lucky, i didnt let the darkness consume me and found someone good for me. As a result we have been married almost eleven years, always surprise ppl when we say that, and actually spent 6 years working at the same place as a team. But you are correct that the vast majority of ppl dont get such fortunate curcumstances.

[@jameshayes3070]

No it was jodies lol She was the one to kill those people

[@mariamonroe1974]

​@jameshayes3070 thank you! plenty of people are abandoned or get kicked out and they don't murder people

[@jessiecarlisle2034]

I worked in this DCF office, not when this happened, but I live in this area and know some of the people involved, and followed this case, as well the trials and tribulations of her daughter, and have never seen it covered on any of the dozens of crime channels I’ve followed over the years (yours being the best of the bunch as far as I’m concerned right now 👍). This affected the local community greatly. Thank you for taking the time to delve into it. I thought I knew most of this story. My cousin was also murdered here by her National Guard boyfriend (Laura Jean Cousins, RIP 🙏 in Winooski in August 2008), which at the time was one of only 6 murders that year in the entire state. It is a beautiful place and the community is amazing. I’m rambling but just wanted to thank you.

[@e.e.strickland4654]

One of the saddest parts is something not mentioned. This case was covered in a show called “Deadly Women,” and in the episode, it was found that when Lara was shot and ultimately killed, she was on the phone with one of her daughters. Unfortunately the girl listened to the entire event unfold and now must live with that for the rest of her life.

[@captainthruster9484]

🤣

[@AT-nq3sy]

@@captainthruster9484 how is that funny hayseed?

[@piadash7466]

@@captainthruster9484 wtf???

[@leahvogelsimpson]

That's so sad. Reminds me of the Nick Cordova case out of Arizona. He was facetiming with his two young kids when shot and killed.. they still haven't found his murderer. It's just heartbreaking.

[@ruskimuejek665]

@@AT-nq3sy don't feed the troll

[@WouldntULikeToKnow.]

She put more work into getting "revenge" than in improving herself and her situation to get her children back.

[@rtyria]

@Yomas Riprud If Vermont is anything like Michigan, I wouldn't bet money on that. I have a cousin who's birth mother used her as bait to get boyfriends, if you know what I mean. The state didn't sever rights and put her up for adoption (which is how she became my cousin) until the abuse had been going on for years and scarred her for life. I've lost all touch with her, last I heard she was unable to keep a job and had been living on the streets.

[@mommy2libras]

@Yomas Riprud Yes she would. That's what DCFS does. They literally give the parents a list of things they need to do. The state doesn't want to keep your kids. There are never enough state or foster homes for the children that have been removed. The whole point is to help the parents get their shit together so that their kids can come home. That's what it exists for.

[@doranvee5944]

That's what anger and loss of control does to a person.

[@rememberme626]

@@doranvee5944 That’s what drugs will do to a person. Nothing else matter over that next high.

[@doranvee5944]

@@rememberme626 yes, I have heard that. I do feel bad that it seems like she never really healed from the loss of her father. He must have been very special. I'm sure life would have been very different had he not been killed.

[@sourgir-wh6xd]

😭 My ex suffers from epilepsy due from a traumatic brain injury. He suffers from 4 different types of seizers and one of them, an absence seizure, causes him to stare blankly into space. That's the first thing I thought about when they said Jody would would stare with a blank look on her face. This is just as bad, if not worse, than Grand Mal seizers. Especially if her mother never took her to a doctor and got on medication. Seizers caused so much damage to the brain and unfortunately, people sometimes turn to drugs to deal with it. My ex went from being a loving, kind and intelligent man, to forgetting everything from my name to his mother being dead. He became irritable 24/7, and called objects the the wrong name. For example, he would point at his toothbrush and ask me to please hand him his peski. Of course I would be completely confused and ask him to repeat himself and he'd say peski again. Then grab his toothbrush and get mad at me for not knowing what he's talking about and confused as to why I didn't understand him. If I tried telling him that peski wasn't a word and it's actually called a toothbrush, he would give me the same look I gave him as if he had never heard the word toothbrush in his life. It's very sad and I can not believe that somebody has never wanted to test this woman 😥

[@justsomecoolprayingmantisd6422]

I’m gonna start calling it a peski now, kinda like it better than plain ol toothbrush

[@gabe-po9yi]

In the rest of her statement before sentencing, she said she reacts to stress “differently from everybody else” and that she’d asked for help several times and never gotten it. Gee, she’d been hospitalized at a psych facility for evaluation, and then, she was going to get to stay and receive treatment for at least three months, which is very rare. Usually, it’s in and out in around three days. She would’ve had a detox program, meds to help her with her anxiety, a variety of different types of therapy groups geared toward helping people find different ways of coping - art, music, meditation, yoga, anger mgt, physical exercise, etc. - support groups, therapy, rest and above all, a stress-free environment. But, yet, she filed for release after just a month. The hospitalization was also completely free of charge. So, short of someone actually living her life for her, it sounds to me like she rejected one of the most critical “help’s” that could’ve been given her.

[@gaslitworldf.melissab2897]

A symptom of mental disorder often includes distrust and therefore resistance to help. This is where law needs to step in assertively, so that patients don't get a choice and are therefore kept in the custody of mental health professionals, then under supervision once discharged. I know it's not cheap, but did the case worker deserve to lose her life, b/c our system puts public safety last?

[@rullmourn1142]

Well, this whole story is just sad for everyone involved.

[@IwasBlueb4]

yes, indeed

[@doperagu8471]

As has been said about some other cases like these - we can feel bad for the child that endured such things, while also criticizing the actions of the adult once that child grew up. No excuse for her actions, but it's so terrible when you can see what led them down a certain path...

[@cammey3]

Yep. Firstly her family especially her mother should have done better, way better, she should have been for there for her child that was clearly struggling not to mention being raped and forced to have a rapists baby, that should never have happened.

[@thanib7796]

Yup... the system failed everyone in this story.

[@keonblizzy3706]

JODI HERRING WAS BORN MALE

[@thegaymingavenger]

"I know what it's like to lose a child." No, your children were taken away from you because you refuse to change and do better for them.

[@taydestiny38]

Yeah…..that was a poor comparison. I’m glad the court system wasn’t falling for that crap and threw the book at her. She should have gotten the death penalty.

[@blitzen5038]

@Radiant Siren I have sympathy for her past self but not her current self , she didn't even try for her children just blamed others around her. She refused help over and over, maybe she could have been forcibly held but being held against your will in a state like that probably wouldn't have helped. Maybe if she had a better childhood this would have never happened but it did happen and she was a 40 year old women that committed these crimes. At some point in your life it's up to you to make your own choices and decisions and I know it's not easy to break the cycle but her childhood is not a good enough reason for what she did.

[@bubblegum-su7dk]

one problem we have today is soldiers come back from war and will kill others just out of rage due to their ptsd. Now imagine that ptsd magnified by 100 and experienced by an abandoned child who doesn't know how to raise children because she was never raised by a parent. Add to this serious signs of schizophrenia and a possible personality disorder, personality disorders are developed when someone experiences so much trauma as a child their brains are permanently altered. She needed long term mental health care, not to be judged or punished. She needed so much help and my heart aches for her because this is exactly what mental health is in the US. People can understand depression and anxiety but the moment someone is "too ill" people cut them out and try to punish them instead of help them. They watch people fall apart and never help, and when everything finally breaks we blame them and say they deserve to be punished. This is exactly why, though I love true crime, I have trouble finding anyone who doesn't stigmatize mental health and doesn't try to understand or sympathize with those who have committed crimes. They make fun of them for having real, torturous mental health disorders and then compares all people with that disorder to them.

[@RainRemnant]

@Radiant Siren as if she's the only one with a hard past, only weak losers do what she did

[@johnnyfontane6911]

Are you talking too her 😂

[@liamlynch2115]

My heart breaks for all the children involved.

[@MarshallisLazyToo]

I can't believe you made a video on this case. Me and my brothers are some of the kids Lara helped through DCF and she became very close to us, I can hardly remember that part of my life now but my uncle passed from cancer today and brought up a lot of stuff from then. My mom was talking with me and some family when Jody and Lara came up. Mom told us that Lara became extremely close to my brother and when he learned about what happened he was devastated. He said "They killed my best friend". Someone from the family said she spread Lara's brain matter everywhere. I just wanted to share this somewhere.

[@LenaRodriguezTarotDownUnder]

Thanks for sharing your story. Lara was obviously such a good person. Please live your best life you can. Blessings

[@juliasobelfaryniarz]

Hey, my name is Julia. I am Lara Sobel’s daughter. Thank you for sharing the impact that she had on your and your brother. Hearing from the kids, parents, and families that she worked so tirelessly to help is bittersweet but makes me feel closer to her again. She was the best mom ever and I miss her every day.

[@MarshallisLazyToo]

@@juliasobelfaryniarz Your mom was an incredible person and she will always be missed. I hope my story provided something positive for you even if it is the smallest amount.

[@juliasobelfaryniarz]

@@MarshallisLazyToo It definitely did! It is hard to read through many of the other comments that don’t come from such an empathetic and kind place but this one made me smile and was a bright spot in my day.

[@MarshallisLazyToo]

@@juliasobelfaryniarz I know how hard it can be reading comments that aren't great but I'm glad I was able to provide a little light in the darkness of the world.

[@lesliesnotinteresting]

My step dad is a social worker/therapist and was actually attacked once by his own patient. I always fear that somethings going to happen and this is the first time I've heard anyone talk about them needing more protection. Thank you

[@lesliesnotinteresting]

@Stevie Williams I agree, that’s awful, but my step dad doesn’t work in foster care. He works at an institution for adults with mental illnesses that prevent them from holding a job and provides them housing and ways to make money. Knowing my step dad, he would agree that’s an issue, but remember there are several types of social workers. Not all of them work in foster care and are evil

[@happyzombiikitti]

My mother has been a social worker for migrants for over 20 years (she’s a migrant herself) Shes 65 now. And it’s crazy to see how she will probably work till the day she dies because this country doesn’t value it’s teachers/healthcare workers/mental health care workers.

[@captainthruster9484]

Do you need a hug?

[@theantoniakendalll]

I’m a social worker myself and it absolutely terrifying sometimes, customers can be unpredictable despite our best efforts to try and help

[@katiscray2534]

I am a social worker that works with disabled children/adults/elderly people. I go into people’s homes every day for work, and most of the time you never know what you are walking into. It can definitely be scary sometimes and I have had quite a few run ins on the job. I am also glad he brought up social worker safety, as it definitely seems to be overlooked.

[@Amarianee]

3:33 Just a side-note, seizures aren't a mental illness, they're a physical one. Poor mental health can trigger seizures in an epileptic, but the epilepsy itself is a disorder of neurons firing improperly, not a chemical imbalance. Sometimes there's a cause for it like brain trauma from a car crash, or sporting accident (in my case, brain surgery) and other times it's completely unknown. Mental health treatment would have been great, as this lady clearly had plenty of mental health issues, but medical help should have been sought first to figure out why she was having seizures.

[@ellemmenn2930]

Very good point… because we don’t know if it was her MH or a physical one that was causing the issues with seizures

[@laikeree_4213]

Oh now that you mentioned head trauma... it's too possible to ignore, but it could be her mother's doing and they just-- I'm more mad at her family, honestly. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I'm fine with her actions, but really, all of these could've been avoided (as with most murder cases). She was a jolly little kid too...

[@Lilminxlexie]

@Amarianee I wonder if Adrian was assuming that Jody Herring had PNES (Psychogenic non-epileptic seizure) which appear like seizures but are actually due to psychogical factors not physical ones. If she did have PNES then mental health treatment such as psychotherapy and cognitive behavioural therapy may have helped. If she was having seizures due to epilepsy (or another physical cause) then mental health intervention wouldn't have helped the seizures. As you rightly state though she would have required medical intervention to assess the cause of her seizures to adequately treat them whatever their cause - whether physical or psychological.

[@marsh701]

I was thinking the same. The fact that the refer to her staring off in distance multiple times from childhood to court case. Should have been treated earlier.

[@ferretsnax]

There are stress seizures.

[@captaincz5763]

What a depressing story. It was so sad to hear about her past. I think she just felt like her children were the only people keeping her sane in her horrible life. May the victims rest in peace.

[@Irish1Eric]

We fostered children. Two happened to be amber alert children that had been taken. A car followed us in many occasions. And even followed the case worker. Nothing was done. Child work often involves risks people don't see :(

[@david-468]

So you take children from possibly just divorced parents and you wonder why they’re angry at you? If you had real children you might understand why a parent would be mad

[@Irish1Eric]

@@david-468 wow. All of what you said is so wrong. 1) "real children" is super offensive. And I do have two biological children. Most of the children we fostered were willing given to the system, or were failure to thrive children. Please think before you speak.

[@chrisbennett6236]

I live in Vermont so I can tell you that ruling her father's death as suicide is one of the biggest screw ups for the state's law enforcement.

[@Laeiryn]

That's not all that uncommon. I have a friend from Texas whose father purportedly shot himself in the face. ... With a shotgun. **Three times**. But it was ruled a suicide.

[@BeautyBeauty-di8xq]

I thought so too why would he do it on the lawn? Doubt it

[@tessaducek5601]

Guns don't stay nicely in ones hand!

[@anomalyp8584]

what do you mean?

[@hodanhashi6096]

where can i find the story about her father?

[@SnowWolf597]

Joke's on you Adrian, I was already sitting back and having a coffee when I started this XD

[@r0ttingkandi]

lol same

[@bmartina7772]

Me too lol

[@amandapoushay]

One thing I love about your videos is that they're never too long. Sometimes I don't want to listen to a case for over an hour. You deliver great content in the perfect amount of time. Thank you.

[@case8037]

Idk where you've found the time to make all of these videos but I listen to them every day as I get ready for work & every night as I deliver pizza! Definitely appreciate all the time & effort you've put into these for us!!

[@panicxitsxbrea]

i had a childhood quite similar to hers, got borderline personality disorder and c-ptsd from it, and have never so much as thrown a punch. it's very important to acknowledge the trauma she endured. it's equally important to not make excuses for her behavior.

[@One-Ring-To-Rule-Them-All]

Finally somebody addresses this! Thank you! She was the murderer. She chose to blame everybody else for her situation, because she was too lazy to do the hard work of getting her children back...

[@whoever_81]

Nobody is making excuses. She made her choice. We are trying to understand why and how.

[@AndrewTominac]

@@One-Ring-To-Rule-Them-All not lazy, completely out of it and didn’t acknowledge she did something wrong.

[@iwatchtoomuchtruecrime]

Some folks need to stop correcting others & respect that we all have different opinions & none are “wrong”. How totally narrow minded & narcissistic to assume your 𝒐𝒑𝒊𝒏𝒊𝒐𝒏𝒔 are the only correct ones.

[@ElanaVital83]

YES!

[@ghostdragon4164]

"Why did she think this was a good idea" Thats the thing. She wasn't thinking at all. Shes too far gone

[@christophermacbeth4034]

Yes indeed

[@whitedragoness23]

In my area if you have a mental illness or mentally not there you are just allowed to wander the streets and be homeless. No help, no medical to stabilize their brain or to get back on their feet. Just give them food and carry on even if they wield a knife saying satan is telling them to kill….

[@starscream4837]

I totally agree. Not only was she mentally unstable, but the drugs & booze had probably put paid to any shred of ability to "think". Also, as so often is the case with addicts - all the bad things that happen to them are other people's fault!! They never look in the mirror.

[@Cibbic]

@@starscream4837 in he case it was the fault of others . she had a crappy life from the get go and she was offered help when she was already far too gone with drugs. I dont excuse her actions though.

[@ddjsoyenby]

she was having a breakdown she probaly wasn't able to think clearly till later.

[@Unaliq]

Oh, God... When you said that you wished to stop, I felt the blood drain from my face as you continued and that she killed her cousins and family members. That was absolutely horrific. Jody getting life sentence with no parole had me cheering. The fact that she had the _audacity_ to say that she could learn from this after gunning down not only her family members but a woman that was doing her job, with a parole is quite a sickening thing to ask for. Jody is where she belongs, behind iron bars and surrounded by slabs of concrete walls and ceiling.

[@SNP-1999]

Having just recently found your Coffeehouse Crime channel, dear Adrian, I am impressed with both your presentation and narrative pertaining to the subject, in particular that you never fail to mention the victims at the end of your videos, naming them individually and summarizing their characters. It is a particularly nice touch giving respect to the victims and their beloved. Well done and please keep up the good work. (I have, of course, subscribed to your channel).

[@hugtheworld2922]

She didn’t loose her kids. She gave them up when she chose to use drugs and refuse help. When I fell into a deep depression after my 4th child, I reached out for help because my kids are my life. Her tears didn’t move me at all, they added insult to the injury of her thoughtless words.

[@ghost_in_the_robot]

She didn't *lose her kids

[@evaun1t165]

The part where you said the university offered scholarships to Lara's kids really got to me. Hopefully they can grow up to continue her legacy.

[@cappsginny699]

I don't think "continuing her legacy" is a desirable thing, since her legacy is murder...

[@evaun1t165]

@@cappsginny699 Notice I said Lara's kids, not Jodys'

[@hensonlaura]

Tragic that Jody's kids aren't seen as worthy of the same treatment.

[@evaun1t165]

@@hensonlaura I hope they don't come out as fucked up as their mom is. They deserve a good future, but speaking honestly, they are probably gonna be messed up mentally for a long while.

[@MS-dw2pb]

@@hensonlaura yeah...

[@leetuki8166]

I feel sorry the system let Jody down, she never had a chance, I seriously feel sad for Jody and all those impacted by her childhood abuse and neglect, no one ever protected Jody. Hurt people, hurt people. This one was hard for me hear, covering it must have been just as hard to navigate. Thank you for respectfully covering a very difficult case for everyone.

[@helenagackowska8398]

absolutely

[@effingcool1780]

I don't feel any sympathy, she just sounds like awful mother and overall awful human being. Don't care how she grew up. There are many kids who grew up in harsher condition. Stop blaming everything on "SYSTEM". It depends on person.

[@helenagackowska8398]

@@effingcool1780 Everyone responds differently to trauma.

[@MattyKwik]

At her sentencing, she said something like ... "I asked for help so many times and nobody helped me." That is total BS. She had so many people trying to help her.

[@MaatAset]

Truly depressing story all around. Imagine if she'd received more love, care, and attention as a child. Background obviously doesn't absolve her, but it definitely shaped her.

[@ronaldmorrison6013]

And her head

[@dkaulitz13]

Absolutely agree

[@cheyennebarnaby-baker72]

No. She had access to help. This was planned out. She murdered them all by plans she made

[@braetonwilson4296]

Most of these murderers have horrible backgrounds of childhood abuse, mental health issues etc. They still know right from wrong and decided to do wrong. She must be loving the free food, free shelter, free healthcare etc. She probably already has a gf on the inside.

[@7eyesopenwide168]

Think of all the people who have had equally bad or worse childhoods yet they don’t go on to kill people. If everyone who has had tragedy or neglect in their childhood went on to act out what a world that would be.

[@SleepySloth2705]

I legitimately feel bad for social workers, governments just tie their hands and toss them into the pit. Here in Norway, two social workers were stabbed by a desperate individual. One survived, but the other died at the scene

[@NicoPlaysitAll]

Ville ikke forundret meg om de saksbehandlerene var arrogante som faen.. Saksbehandlere hos NAV er som regel det.

[@SleepySloth2705]

@@NicoPlaysitAll problemet er at det er regjeringen som holder de igjen, og de er opplært til å holde roen uansett situasjon(som for mesteparten tolkes som arrogant)

[@waterdamagedtextbook9858]

people in the US want social workers to show up, unarmed, to domestic violence calls! its insane!

[@NicoPlaysitAll]

@@waterdamagedtextbook9858 Thats INSANE, domestic violence calls should be the police's job.

[@Libellulaire]

@@waterdamagedtextbook9858 I seriously hope you don't think that social workers should show up armed to domestic violence calls. Everything in this is so wrong. The general idea was given by NicoPlays: it is not their fucking job. It is not their job to handle dangerous individuals. It is not their job to protect others physically. It is not their job to restrain people. They don't receive intense training about this kind of situations and the use of fire arms. They aren't "guardians of the law" or anything like that.

[@theTACOdileHuntR]

As a Vermonter, I giggle when you say our town names. Thank you for always giving such a respectful retelling of the crimes and respecting the victims.

[@SanguiphiliaTV]

The fact that none of those bystanders went to warn anyone in the office or call the police on a woman who was screaming in a car is really infuriating.

[@Stinkydinkydo]

There are so many cases about children being failed by social workers, and the system, and yet when they get it right they pay the price. I hope her children are safe and happy wherever they are, and I'm glad they got away from her in time because she was always a ticking time bomb.

[@neeneko]

Also unfortunately, CPS (alongside Bureau of Land Management) is one of the bigger targets of the 'freedom!' movement, so they frequently get threats and receive surprisingly little political and law enforcement support. CPS tends to both be chronically underfunded and under-protected. The are very politically unpopular esp away from major population centres.

[@supastar25]

Exactly...a case where the social worker actually cared enough to do her job properly to protect the kids...only for her to be murdered by this maniac.

[@dentyph5169]

@@supastar25 not sure you can blame the actual social workers when they just follow their rules and guidelines. Unless of course they don't do their job properly

[@direwolfnation8960]

They get NO SYMPATHY from me.

[@whitedragoness23]

It’s gonna take a whole village to rework the system. For example you will have to set up a place to take in children who are being abused. That would reduce cases of children growing up not being cared for or not receiving mental care. This will help them be more stable parents and less likely to repeat the cycle. You would need to education heavily on anti drugs. Give people realistic reasons drugs are bad. You could lose your kids. You could hurt them, etc. You would need family members to not ignore warning signs of people saying they will kill others and report it. You would have to take each case seriously. It’s a lot of work, and it doesn’t seem to be getting better.

[@littlefishiesinthese]

Jesus, this is definitely a testament to how devastating experiencing trauma and abuse during developmental periods can be, and Jody just continues the cycle by traumatising her family and poor Lara’s family. Her traumatic past doesn’t excuse her actions, though.

[@ijustneedmyself]

Exactly. I think it's important for us all to understand that monsters aren't born. They are created. And if we protect children better and support them when they have gone through trauma then we might prevent them from inflicting trauma on others. A lot of people think looking at a person's past means you're making excuses for them, but it's not. She deserves the consequences of her crime, but it helps us as a society to see where she came from and how she got here.

[@littlefishiesinthese]

@@ijustneedmyself 100% agree. If there’s anything I’ve learned as a psychology student (with an interest in true crime) it’s how impactful trauma and abuse in childhood / adolescence can have on someone in how they develop and what their later life looks like, and that includes some of the circumstances they end up in that will ultimately give them the opportunity to make awful decisions. We all have the freedom of choice, but the circumstances that lead up to those decisions are important to consider too.

[@romystumpy1197]

@@ijustneedmyself I disagree

[@chlorophyll6154]

It would be mercy to let her die, saving or blaming her would not do anything

[@racheljackson4428]

@@ijustneedmyself couldn't said better myself. what this lady did was horrifying. no one doesn't deserve to die.

[@tracycraft2546]

I so love that you have stories I've never heard before! Thank you so much! Love your channel!! And you love coffee! Priceless!

[@shaylajade9937]

It's like, "ok, so you successfully demonstrated to everyone exactly WHY you couldn't be trusted with your children... are you happy?" Like wtf. What did she think the consequences of her actions would be, that her children would be hand-delivered back into her arms...? Absolutely insane.

[@KingJojoB]

Wooooo a new coffeehouse upload, I’m addicted to watching these

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

I have so much more that I'm dying to cover, hoping to pick up speed in the coming months!

[@Rmomar]

@@CoffeehouseCrime When will I work then? 😂😂 Binge watch! ❤️

[@KingJojoB]

@@CoffeehouseCrime please do! We all can’t wait!

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

@@rustyshackleford2808 Mike is also a seasoned veteran! I'm still relatively new here, and there's another full-time job going on in the background 😁

[@devodavis6747]

@Daniel Brown gross

[@anuskapoddar1135]

The thing that separates your channel from others , you attach so much emotions to the story and you really give more importance to the victim than the culprit ..so kudos to you !

[@monirmalick4016]

watch indian crime portal.

[@Izzyforeverlace8chrome]

Emotional pain is 10000x worse than physical pain, years of trauma had stuck on her and she had no idea how to solve her problems the humane way, so in the end, she snapped and just gave up. I feel so sorry for her. The loss of her children was the nail in the coffin for her, That is what broke her.

[@M-7412]

I can understand the call to protect social workers. Years ago I did an internship at a municipal social housing office. The security was insane. You couldn't enter the reception area without getting buzzed in. There was a camera taking your picture. The reception area was practically wall to wall cameras, the receptionist were behind bulletproof glass, there were also security guards. You couldn't go from hallway to another with swiping a keycard and entering a code. Every office and alarm buttons. I asked why was the security so tight. They told me it was because someone showed up with an axe wanting to kill his councilor. Even though I had no dealings with the public, I was always looking over my shoulder after that.

[@DiutoAjoku]

Again, landing herself in a hot coffee” 😂🤣 I don’t think anything would have changed if she had spent some more time in a MH facility. RIP to those innocent women🙏🏾

[@Kurichestnut320]

Maybe not, but they could’ve saved the lives of 4 innocent women

[@DiutoAjoku]

@@Kurichestnut320 hmm... I see what you mean actually. I still don’t know if that would have been the case you know. Cos if you deep it, her motive seemed really strong. From the story, she seemed hell-bent on getting rid of them and I feel like 2-3 months away from them could have gone either way; it could have either grown her urge to kill them or made her see things in a more positive light.

[@keonblizzy3706]

JODI HERRING WAS BORN A MAN

[@user-nj3lg7wi5r]

I believe he means hot water, but that works too.

[@Cibbic]

@@user-nj3lg7wi5r he did but what he said is kinda better because it has a double entendre to it.

[@bushviper2537]

Honestly, you're probably the best true crime KZbinr around. I'm addicted lol. Thank you for your hard work!

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Thank you kindly! More on the way!

[@Thorfinn_Vinland]

That Chapter too!!

[@postnutregret]

I think JCS is in a class of his own. I also enjoy this is monsters and Matt orchard.

[@6thn5th]

🤭

[@nickbuis3307]

@@postnutregret JCS only if he was uploading but yeah. That Chapter is my favorite though. Let's give it a goo...

[@Scion141]

I've seen a lot of this channel's videos and read plenty of comments, what surprises me here is the amount of people talking about how sad Jody's upbringing was, and if she had gotten help, all of this could have, possibly, been avoided, "Where was her help?" Yet, in videos where men had a similar upbringing to Jody's, those men are called monsters and what-have-yous who deserve everything bad that happens to them, their upbringing be damned. The double standards. 😑

[@jr7845]

Absolutely agreed, I had a horrific childhood, abused sexually by my uncle, a violent parent, but my strength of character got me through life, I raised a wonderful daughter, without any support

[@whatever5180]

Cry and seethe about it

[@jenniferproctor696]

Both men and women deserve help and there is a double standard but that doesn't mean everyone actually believes in it. But I have seen some videos with men where they do say the same thing of this guy could have been helped but he wasn't so he did this.

[@Yumenga]

You make a great point. Most of the comments I've seen are quite sympathetic towards Jody because of her bad childhood. I rarely see these kinds of sympathetic comments for male perpetrators, even though they almost always have bad childhoods too.

[@sickoftheshit]

I'm glad she'll never get out of prison. She doesn't deserve to be anywhere but there! Great video once again.

[@lejlakhaleesi]

If your mother throw you out of the house as an 11-year-old kid maybe today you would be having a completely different destiny and a life path! I feel sorry for the poor families who lost their loved ones.

[@robinmcinarnay7827]

Yeah, idk how that still qualified under "neglect." If solely neglectful treatment, which I doubt it was, this def stepped it up to abuse. Either way, I don't see how child neglect isn't also simultaneously abuse and vice versa. Sure she could be rehabilitated, but a potential relapse would likely send everything spiraling, just as before. Regardless, sometimes one offense is committed with so much brutality there's no 2nd chance to be given, like with Joshua Phillips.

[@kokoskokso]

yeah calling her a piece of work is pretty shitty imho

[@MS-dw2pb]

Add to that the fact that her first baby was the result of of ass*ult...she never had a chance

[@Prawnsacrifice]

@@robinmcinarnay7827 they are defined definitely abuse is to threaten or harm neglect is to simply not care for 👍 I mean it could be argued that her kicking them out would put them in harm's ways tho so I see what your saying but in court I can see why she would be charged with neglect 🙂

[@whoever_81]

Exactly. I wonder where is her wonderful mother now. Was she at the trial? Any info about her?

[@TheFoxskin]

What I wonder is: Jody's family was so large, so many aunts and cousins... How could she end up many times homeless ? Was no one in her family there to help her before she completely went off the rails ?

[@ohsuzeyq_]

She didn’t want help... that’s the problem. Completely unwilling to get better

[@LionMil1]

@@ohsuzeyq_ She was 11 the first time she was homeless. 🙄

[@missbearlockholmes]

Her entire family may have been dysfunctional, or she could have been so out of control, that no one could deal with her for long.

[@ddl4374]

Simetimes the street is a step up !

[@ddl4374]

@@LionMil1 THANK YOU. ♡

[@lilliacruise8066]

Jody spent all that time plotting revenge instead of getting herself together and do what is needed to get her kids back. SMH Its easy for women like Jody to have kids but the ones truly deserving of kids can't have any.

[@sweetelle818]

FYI: Children taken away & put in family services/Welfare/Government/Or other family members. Almost NEVER works out for the children! 😕😞

[@Madraina]

My question in all this is: could all this have been prevented if someone had helped Jody when she was a child herself and clearly needed someone to be there for her and keep her safe. It is no excuse but I think her upbringing clearly plays a part in why she did what she did.

[@CAHSR2020]

The Cyntoia Brown defense only seems to work if you limit your murdering to single men. Once you go after other women or children the defense starts to fall apart.

[@Madraina]

@@CAHSR2020 oh I am not defending her, not by far. What she did was horrible and inexcusable and I have absolutely no sympathy for her. I just think that lives could have been saved if she had gotten help when she was a child.

[@IwasBlueb4]

yes

[@MentokTheMindTaker]

Yeah what about all those horrible disgusting murderers who could have been helped as children, won't somebody think of the poor murderers

[@MentokTheMindTaker]

You can give everyone help and people will still murder

[@rakatan8930]

This woman had a tragic life- but at no point did she take any steps to seek help or change her ways. The only sympathy I have- is for those she hurt.

[@faerie9200]

agreed. once your're an adult, it's YOUR responsibility to pick up the pieces of yourself.

[@racheljackson4428]

i would feel bad for them Especially Lara Sobel.

[@jaimytourigny3027]

Oh yeah, being kicked out at 11 and ending up probably prostituting herself, being abused by god knows who and ending up with children with no help whatsoever, and becoming a drug addcit to endure it all BEFORE turning adult sure was her fault. Do you freakin listen to yourself? You make my blood boil

[@sylviaking8866]

@@faerie9200 that's very unlikely as dysfunctional adults have been traumatized as kids. the whole point of a balanced good childhood is to raise you to be a fully functional adult. She was not given that opportunity to grow in a healthy environment.

[@rosewetzel7361]

I love your voice -- I could listen to you all day !!! 😊 Great stories too !!

[@jakewillson1873]

That happened in my town , I met her daughter Desiree who’s just as crazy and attempted to re-enact the murders Judy committed . Thank you for pronouncing my towns name correctly most people not from here do pronounce it as bar lol, btw that parking lot is for the rehab gym not the court house but the court house is to the left of it. There’s also an unsolved murder that happened behind the movie theater beside the court house of a lady named Doris E Baker.

[@hannahriley8085]

I've been in similar positions myself with my kids due to my drug addiction and it does feel very personal in regards to the social workers and people in positions of power over you and whether or not you get your kids back but you have to remind yourself that it's not personal, their just doing their jobs and rather than being angry with those people, you have to remind yourself why you are in that position in the first place and look at your own actions

[@Lmcv82]

That's a very mature way of handling it.. I hope your life is back on track and getting better every day

[@jenniferproctor696]

I'm so glad you got your life on track. Especially for your children. I only wish this woman could have done the same. Imagine how this woman's kids feel since their mom took away other family members. That can't be easy to deal with from their own family.

[@chlorophyll6154]

Hey you are you okay, binge on this channel huh

[@hannahriley8085]

@@chlorophyll6154 true crime addiction lol 😂

[@chlorophyll6154]

@@hannahriley8085 well if you're really true fans, I suggest you go to Dark n Grim channel, its covers crime too but least to be say it's 18 + version of this channel

[@Room-uc5se]

My brother is a social worker and works in an insanely dangerous area. He has been shot at, walked in on a man trying to beat his mom to death, had to remove a child who was hung in a tree i their backyard…all super devastating. He is sent out often alone, I constantly worry about him. People don’t realize what a lot of them go through. This story just freaks me out more.

[@patriciafoster6282]

God bless him for all he does👍

[@dreamsofturtles1828]

A friend of mine started out as a social worker but after a while realized she couldn't take it. The sexual abuse cases were more than she could psychologically handle. God bless and keep your brother for doing what he does.

[@jasminejackson9478]

I used to work as a CPS investigator and had to deal with so much shit. Been chased out of houses, threatened constantly. One of my coworkers was shot at as well. We also were sent out alone. People don’t realize what social workers go through

[@thecoralbuzz2717]

Keep up the good work 😊 . I absolutely enjoy binge watching your content . Your way of describing the minute details of each case is remarkable. You earned a subscriber .

[@visassess8607]

I like how you go into detail about the location, all persons of interest and the aftermath. Usually these types of channels just go into the crime.

[@nicholasbagley160]

I had to stop this video to leave this comment and so I didn't ruin my night. So I've been subscribed and watching coffeehouse crime for some time now and I don't think I've ever left a comment. I went on a vacation to Mexico, beautiful resort it was amazing..... because I found your channel. Most of the trip, Mexico yeah cool, didn't really care just wanted to watch Coffee house crime. It got to the point where my wife just joined the fun. Now we watch Coffee House Crime together Monday night at home on the tv. So can't watch til we're home lol Sorry for the book. Just wanted to say Thanks, love the channel an look forward to it every week.

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Hey Nicholas, thank you so much for the message! I love hearing stories of my content bringing people together, there’s nothing more rewarding than knowing that I bring you and your wife closer on a Monday evening. Wishing you both all the best, and I hope to see you here again soon!

[@kathrynshields8221]

THEY COULD HAVE GOT A DOSE of crime in Mexico!!lol.🙄

[@JasmineDragonGreenTea]

I'm shocked that she was able to keep her children for as long as she did. Absolutely heartbreaking. I can't imagine the trauma they experienced under her care.

[@JasmineDragonGreenTea]

@Radiant Siren the whole situation is awful. She should have been saved from her upbringing/neglect and it would probably have stopped all of this from happening.

[@luckyokoro620]

The narration is high quality. My only regret is not discovering this channel earlier. Keep it up!

[@wendymagnuson6069]

I cannot believe I am just now discovering this channel. I am binge listening. Very well put together!! Keep them coming 😊thank you from Texas🤠

[@Tryingtogetradical]

Classic Jody, threatening to splatter brains. She’s so kooky sometimes

[@leaf.7938]

What a riot she is a hoot and a hollar

[@daheikkinen]

First it was wearing socks that didn’t match. Now this

[@KeikilaniKai86]

@@daheikkinen lmao!!! 😂😂😂 not the mismatched socks! That’s a sure fire way to spot if someone is crazy or not! 😂😂😂 🧦

[@kims364]

@@KeikilaniKai86 Me looking down at my socks.....that don't match, guess I'll be calling a psychiatrist tomorrow to seek help. 🤪🤪🤦🤦😂😂

[@KeikilaniKai86]

@@kims364 😂😂😂😂😂 lmao!!!

[@ravenp2654]

It’s always confused me as too why people struggling with drugs are locked up instead of being in rehab. Drug abuse stems from trauma and pain, she needed help

[@kimberlyhood4095]

We see it all the time, look at all the homeless people with mental health issues, it's easier to ignore the problem instead of fixing it.

[@kristyboule8768]

There are plenty of people in Vermont who get the opportunity to “serve time” at a rehab facility rather than in jail. There is a huge lack of beds available at inpatient rehab facilities in Vermont which hinders the process though.

[@paulwoodford6229]

Because prison is great for going cold turkey. Tough love, lol

[@iris5678]

They tried to help her? She didn't want it.

[@joanodom2104]

She didn't want help.

[@momv2pa]

Another great video. Narrator very well spoken, and I really enjoy the amount of detail packed into the story. Very tragic.

[@caseyr1154]

I'm a social worker, granted in a different country, and now work as a mental health worker for youth and children. How Jody only had a diagnosis of anxiety is beyond me- the trauma this woman has been through is incredibly high, I'd expect C-PTSD as a minimum. Mental illness is not an excuse, but understanding how it and trauma impacts the brain is incredibly important. There are so many failings in this case starting in her upbringing. Mental health services definitely let this woman down. I've been threatened in my work. Social workers facing abuse is not new, and unfortunately there are cases all over the world of social workers being murdered. Any social worker will tell you the importance of proper mental health intervention.

[@iknitbecuzmurderisfrownedupon]

Where was the concern for a child when Jody was enduring the abuse SHE received?

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

My thoughts too - while it can't be used as an excuse (as the huge majority of those that experience abusive childhoods go on to become loving, nurturing people), her troubled childhood certainly was an aggravating factor to her psychology, and therefore her decisions later on in life.

[@riceshower7304]

@@CoffeehouseCrime I doubt that she is sane at that point, she is abused to a point of "broken" not gonna lie, while it can't be used as an excuse but she is beyond broken at this point and I highly doubt that even if she is treated she will go back normal at this point...there is a trend of more and more mentally disturbed people started to do crime and this is just well tragic

[@iknitbecuzmurderisfrownedupon]

@@CoffeehouseCrime yes, no excuse, tho definitely a predictor. It's well known adverse childhood events (ACE's) cause physical illness/disease later in life. It's just as obvious emotional/psychological events do as well. We are attempting to staunch the hemorrhage AFTER collateral damage has been done (when the traumatized person has hurt another), rather than giving them the help they need at the time the hemorrhage (trauma) was inflicted.

[@iknitbecuzmurderisfrownedupon]

@@riceshower7304 what would her being given appropriate help at the time of HER traumas? Of course years later the scarring is going to be terribly resistant to healing. Would Proper help at the time she was traumatized changed the outcome?

[@neeneko]

To a degree there is a time period thing. In the 70s and 80s, CPS, esp in fairly rural ares (and even more so up in VT) was pretty weak. There have been efforts to get more funding and enforcement capabilities over the years, and it looks like by the time she had kids they had the resources to intervene.. but given the time period she was young, I would be surprised if there even was a department, much less one with enough political power to do anything.

[@danewing4658]

Congratulations, you have been on YT for less than a year and already have 700,000 subs. That is really good. I Love the channel keep it up!!!!

[@23phoenixash]

I lived in this town when this happened, and I was studying Social Work also. This really shook up the community and other Social Work students too, some of whom actually knew the victims. I didn't know any of the people involved, but it still hit crazy close to home, happening right outside a building that I had gone into a million times. It's just a reminder that acts of violence like this can happen to any of us. My heart goes out to the families and friends of those involved.

[@annanimity7085]

Go into another line of work

[@divinedevil]

I get that Jody's children were taken from her for their own safety & it's great but, what about her own childhood? Where was DCF when she was getting abused? Very sad case...RIP all four victims!

[@kentubuchi6899]

I'm guessing it was like the 1970s or 80s at the time. Child abuse and helping victims of child abuse, especially in a rural area with few people, wasn't a priority at the time

[@pinco40]

I agree 💯. What do you think it does to a child being thrown out at 14 and having to live in a car!!

[@iris5678]

In the 70s and 80s, CPS was still barely a thing.

[@JMLjml-dm7dk]

Children belong to their parents not the State or Federal Government.

[@JMLjml-dm7dk]

@@iris5678 CPS kidnaps children and drops them in even worse homes every day they have no oversight. No they didn't even exist until the 80's parents in the 70's considered sane would react the same. Conditioning has made it normal and acceptable in today's society.

[@bookapillar]

12:43 To be fair someone screaming to themselves in their car outside of the DCF building is less rare than you might think, and I don't know if typically, checking on them would do any good for that person. Many people become near hysterical when losing their kids ,and there isn't much anyone can do for them at that time... I dont think so anyway...

[@FranNyan]

@One Culture Love Culture xo It's not about controlling people who have been traumatized. It's about putting space between the person who cannot care for their children and is doing them harm so that both parent and child can receive services and care, separate and safe from one another. If the parent refuses treatment when offered, there's nothing else anyone can do except keep the kids safe and hidden from a parent that is/will be the source of trauma for the kids. The system did what it could in this case. You cannot force someone to accept treatment. THAT would be "controlling those who have been traumatized" as you put it. It is because they did not keep her in a controlled environment she did not wish to be in that she was able to do what she did. For once, the system is not to blame in this case.

[@jenniferproctor696]

Totally agree. Checking on them once they are screaming less and more have lost their energy might help.

[@michellehill718]

Thank you for another great report! Well done Adrian. (Not sure of the spelling of your name.) Sadly too many genuinely committed and loyal social workers and qualified mental health workers are not protected and seem to be truly misunderstood. Not to mention underappreciated until after the fact and when something meant to help families in need goes tragically all wrong. It is also true that recovery of any kind is more likely to be successful and sustainable for those who actually want it, are actively willing to participate, are committed, and engaged in their own treatment to say the least. Time and continuous hard work are absolutely necessary, which also includes a variety of supportive others who may need professional training and support to effectively assist their struggling friends and family members, who are often left dumbfounded and clueless. May they be comforted and find lasting solutions. Meanwhile, keep up the excellent work!

[@jane7589]

Thanks for sharing Adrian. Love your channel.🤩

[@SageK253]

These kinds of stories make me so sad, and angry at an overworked and broken system. Imagine if Jody had gotten help when her father passed, if there had been early intervention. I'm a counselor in community mental health, and so frequently see people who would have a completely different path if they had been in therapy at earlier points in life. Loss of her father, sexual assault, addiction...each of these were a chance for the system to intervene, but as a society we'd rather fund other things.

[@krisdiane]

Spot on. We could reduce, if not eliminate, things like this with accessible mental health help. So much unnecessary death and pain just because our tax money isn't allocated to things like early intervention/treatment for mental health issues, and trauma prevention and healing. It's really time for society to look to the mental health experts and social workers to ask what is needed to reduce violence and drug abuse.

[@hensonlaura]

I'm afraid you'll have to face at some point that people are self interested, life is brutal for MOST people and there will never be a utopia on earth. Shirt happens, unfortunately, and money & therapy will never ever solve all of societies problems, though we have done a damn fine job civilizing folk in the West compared to many cultures. Therapy is unfortunately only as good as the therapist, and I've seen so many bad ones. Real bad. What I would like to see is return to valuing and loving children, and people opening their home to the 100s of thousands that need to know they matter to someone who will take care of them and WANT them. But that's not looking good either 😕

[@tubester4567]

There are plenty of services for mental health and drug addiction. Its HER responsibility to seek it out. Even with the heroin addiction, she could have got on methadone, Im sure plenty of people tried to help her over the years but she probably burnt all her bridges.

[@whoever_81]

@@tubester4567 Oh come οn now...She was 11yo when her mother banished her from their home.

[@fangirl3086]

@@tubester4567 she never had any bridges to burn because her family burned them themselves when she was a child.

[@Mukurokuro]

Probably the first time ever where I heard that the social workers actually saved the children. So many other cases leave children in extremely abusive situations which leads to a poor child losing their life. It's all so awful, but Jody for sure would never ever change. If she had her children back she would have most likely continue a poor drug and alcohol filled lifestyle.

[@annalisavajda252]

Yeah she was dangerous in her case they were right but I agree often they are wrong we had a man kill both his daughters Christmas Day because child services and courts demanded he have visitation despite the Mother having reported concerns and he owed a bunch of child support he did not want to pay.

[@bee1411]

And most of the time the social worker doesn’t have the clearance to make those decisions, it’s up to the state. Then everyone blames the social worker. Sickening, that’s why I work with disabled adults, and not with family services. I wouldn’t be able to cope with that kind of shit.

[@Sonnenanbeterin1991]

Bullshit you just dont Heat the positive outcomes in media

[@jaime_lynn]

Lara was born and raised in my area. I knew about this case through the community here. Thank you for covering it.

[@Velvet-Sunshine.]

Love your videos, always well done.

[@mamapoch1915]

I've been through a lot in my life. Really a lot. But I would never, not EVER, take someone's life. The reason this woman lost her children is because of her own actions. I'm so thankful that she's going to stay in prison for the rest of her life. I do believe that her own mother, at the very least, is partly responsible for how she turned out. She kicked them out when they were 11 and 14? That's outrageous! But when it comes to killing the four people she killed, that is 100% her own doing. My heart goes out to the family of the one woman, especially her children. What a tragic loss!

[@mariaevans5793]

I hope you are well and happy now!!!you never hurt anyone, because your decent and have empathy and compassion!!!🇬🇧😊

[@tvlenox8493]

I worked in a mental health service. You never knew when I patient was going to lose control and endanger staff and/or other patients. Very frightening situations and hats off to those in this caring service! I applaud you all!😁

[@hankvandenakker4271]

I STOP 1/2 WAY THROUGH TO REMARK THAT YOU'VE A CLEAR & INTERESTING MANNER OF TELLING THIS STORY. YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY WORKED HARD TO UNFOLD THIS TRADEGY. AND YOU UN-WRAP THIS IN A MASTERS' FASHION ... AS IF IT WERE YOUR CREATION AND NOT A HORRID TALE FROM OUR REALITY. YOU ARE VERY GOOD AT THIS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD, DILIGENT WORK.

[@kristengordon_]

I love your channel ♥️ true crime is so interesting but so sad at the same time… prayers for everyone involved in all of these cases

[@iamthebroker]

That voice of hers shocked me. Linda Blair in the Exorcist got nothin!

[@amberwashington8439]

IT SHOCKED THE HELL OUT OF ME TOO🤣 I had to look at her again 😅

[@KonwTheTrut]

Me too! Hahahha

[@weedywendy4266]

side note: jodys shoe was a birkenstock. how stereotypical for vermont.

[@thetolsons4126]

Where were the children's fathers in all of this? Poor babies having to go into foster care after living with a mom unstable and unable to care for them.... so sad

[@dreamsofturtles1828]

Boys really need to be taught that it is their own flesh and blood in these children. If that means anything to them, dont have unprotected sex with any woman who they would not want be a mother to THEIR babies. Males can and should take responsibility .

[@MS-dw2pb]

The first baby was the result of an assault

[@MattyKwik]

Well, the first one actually raped Jody. So ...

[@TiaKatt]

Her first child's father was a rapist. Probably not the best environment for a kid, either.

[@zeenavder3359]

Love watching your videos. Keep it up 👍

[@paulinecook9157]

I love watching these coffee house crimes keep them comming 💖

[@Lightofsoma]

Sadly, there are only victims, everyone lost in this case… Good Work , Adrian 🦋

[@Tra_C]

Her voice sent chills down my spine.

[@breanntheartist1989]

For real! It was like listening to a demon.

[@JackGordone]

Don't think it's her voice but rather that of the narrator himself.

[@MarinLay]

@@JackGordone it's his voice for the voice-mail but the ladies above are referring to when she talks during court towards the end of the video.

[@Julian-4]

She sounds so nauseating

[@gwenb4531]

Very well presented, thank you.

[@dionlindsay2]

These videos are great. You research and create a narrative that keeps me listening, and your voice is perfect for the job: it's calm but interesting enough without going overboard. You have some strange ways of constructing a sentence sometimes, but it's clear what you mean and the momentum is so strong, not even I care!

[@purplekermit2162]

“She stared into space, like she wasn’t aware of anything” Those are called “Auras” when you have seizures. I suffered from seizures from a brain tumor. Moments before a seizure you basically get paralyzed and can’t speak before you fall into an episode.

[@briannasmith1144]

Could also be absence seizures

[@rvbydolls]

Yes, I was just about to comment this. I have epilepsy so I know the feeling all too well

[@Laeiryn]

For hours? I was assuming dissociation.

[@purplekermit2162]

@@Laeiryn Not hours but after an episode like that you’re probably not gonna wanna talk about it or do anything really after that. This is coming from experience

[@dendenmushi5458]

That seizure is when she's a child

[@nitsaastro2162]

I recently found this channel...excellent work ...keep it up ...thnxs

[@SomeGuyFromOK]

I can kind of feel for her. There’s no excusing that she worked harder at fighting people than she did at righting her wrongs to get her kids back, but if my kids were taken from me I wouldn’t be “sane” anymore either.

[@187mrsmith]

Well she clearly proved she didn't deserve her kids unfortunately the DCF caseworker making the right choice cost her life! RIP to all the victims in this case 🙏 🥀

[@supastar25]

It's sad man...basically getting killed for absolutely no reason by some psycho crazy woman.

[@Briiii9]

This is the only thing I like about Mondays, getting the Coffeehouse Crime post notification always puts a smile on my face :) Thank you for making my Monday

[@Labellajoy]

I love your videos. Always professional and well done!

[@davidlivingstone9528]

Thanks very much Adrian for your amazing true crime presentations!

[@coffee-lp8iv]

Adrian, I am loving your content. Your voice, empathy and compassion when telling tragic stories is admirable. I commend your ability to tell stories of darkness whilst maintaining humility and passion for humanity. Thank you so much for taking the time to put these videos together with such respect to all involved.

[@bsee205]

This is a prime example of why we need to fund mental health facilities. These are the consequences of mental health issues allowed to go untreated. The facilities we do have won’t hold individuals long enough to help the people who desperately need it due to lack of funding and lack of health insurance, or health insurance not coving mental health facilities. Our system is set up to fail which leads to deadly consequences.

[@joanodom2104]

A certain era of politics (80s) is to blame.

[@aethrya]

You can thank republicans for this issue.

[@GloriaCraven0213]

Brilliant presentation. Thank you.

[@coraynbell8991]

Love your videos Adrian. No loud music fighting with those talking! Keep n trucking!

[@BriansRainbowOverIreland]

fuck this. I had almost the exact same thing happen to me when I was eight and suffered abuse from both step parents as long as I lived with them, so whatever crime she committed that you're about to tell me about, I still think was inexcusable. I've been so close to hurting myself, but never have I made an attempt to cause harm to someone else. it's not an excuse. trauma is not an excuse. it's your responsibility to deal with it before it gets to this point.

[@One-Ring-To-Rule-Them-All]

It is important that strong and nice people like you speak up. You have also endured trauma, but you are better than that and you didn't let your trauma defeat you. You are the winner ❤ There is no excuse for her.

[@MimiUsagichan]

@Serena 2.0 no fucking shit

[@dlphnlady]

I agree! I had a horrific childhood and at the age of 48, I have yet to commit a crime of any kind, much less a violent one. I have spent my entire life trying to break the cycle, and helped raise my nieces and nephews to do the same!

[@BriansRainbowOverIreland]

@Serena 2.0 the point isn't that I'm "holier than thou" the point is that trauma isn't a justification for murder. I don't think I'm better than anyone for not being a murderer because that's a ridiculously low bar and I hold myself to a higher standard anyway. it's not something to be proud over, that you don't kill people. I also find it frankly a little offensive to compare it to your mom just dying- I watched this video some time ago and I cannot recall exactly what was said but seeing as how I said the same thing happened to me I assume her father also killed himself and she also found his corpse , which is straight up PTSD inducing rather than just grief at losing your mother, especially if it was expected. my family members who did not find him and were not there deal with this much much differently than I do. I don't care that "not everyone reacts the same way to trauma", how in gods name does that make it justifiable to kill someone because that's how you reacted to trauma? you are not your trauma. you have self control. it is not okay to be acting like this and you need to find a better coping mechanism. if you want to hurt people, get help, because you have absolutely the most control over that situation.

[@herstory1012]

Thanks for sharing this. Hope that you get the healing that you need. X