Kim Dotcom is Being Taken by The US Government

In this video I discuss MegaUpload's founder (Kim Dotcom) being extradited to the United States from New Zealand for copyright violations he allegedly committed while running one of the worlds most notorious cloud storage/file sharing services.
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[@shioq.]

the real issue is that Kim Dotcom didn't lobby politicians. If he bribed Congress, then this wouldn't be happening.

[@KevKlopper]

Considering how often he got away and that he was able to restart mega is proof enough for me that people got paid well and often.

[@defnlife1683]

rookie mistake!

[@ibex485]

Those expensive, glossy TV adverts back in the day didn't help. Paying stars to appear in their adverts, the same people whose record labels etc. were trying to shut down MegaUpload for piracy for 'sharing their copyrighted material'. xD That says it all really... 'how dare you steal my music/film', 'a million dollars to appear in your advert, yes please'. :rolleyes:

[@defnlife1683]

@@Tamelcoe420megacorp lobbyist simulator would be a dope game.

[@RyneLanders]

Tell that to Sam Bankman-Fried

[@sergeantsapient]

"You wouldn't steal a foreign citizen to charge them with a federal crime."

[@raymondlimkitsiang3847]

USA is a thief that is hypocritical.

[@adrianalexandrov7730]

Assange

[@NotAffiliated]

"You wouldn't steal a car"

[@NationX]

*Dramatic rock music plays*

[@j3rkcat]

Watch how many fucks the USA has to give. Zero, our "justice" system is bought and paid for by these corporations. We dont have democracy we have corporatocracy. And if you think Donny the diaper wearer trump is gonna fix, then I have a bridge in NYC to sell you.

[@davidiceberg2744]

lmao. Violating the copyright is the most heinous crime imaginable. No slight against Uncle Sam is as severe as sharing digital copies or downloading a car

[@VinceOmega]

Don't copy, that floppy! *starts dancing*

[@paegr]

Piracy is grossly anti-Semitic

[@BuetifullPersun]

@@paegrOYYYY

[@nicholastzilinis3832]

I wonder what Justin would do

[@nikopulkkinen]

nothing like speculating imaginary losses, just count the download number, for example if i download 1000copies of dumbo

[@Moziilla.Firefox]

New Zealand is Snitch lol

[@user-lh7mt7zo7l]

Well to be fair I think most countries bend the knee to the US.

[@user-pk4hn1uz1k]

@@user-lh7mt7zo7l Only ones that don't are Russia, China, and Israel.

[@hunterzone4846]

@@user-pk4hn1uz1k With Israel its the opposite lmao

[@Zagirus]

@@user-pk4hn1uz1k Israel? Kek, they’re the puppeteers of the US. You meant to say NK and Iran.

[@Simte]

Israel, lmao. ​@@user-pk4hn1uz1k

[@vazkeft]

Similar traffic volume, but unlike Disney+, Mega Upload will not cause the death of your spouse and then claim you can't sue for damages because of their user agreement

[@raquetdude]

Nah just host illegal content of kids being abused or of war crimes that aren’t being reported and get paid to host it. Much nicer than a giant firm acting like a giant firm. If the book ain’t thrown at him it can never be thrown at the bigger sites. Dudes a creep taking money from ppl that traffic kids, it’s clear that occurs within the site and he is fine taking that money or else he would have put up stuff to prevent it.

[@rkan2]

​@@raquetdudeNobody will care about that in the courts though lol. It is all the media companies that will throw the kitchen sink at him for being paid to host their shit! 😂

[@benayers8622]

bro isnt one of the lizard elite clearly.. we really need to fix things its getting too far

[@solanumtuberosa]

​​@@raquetdudeeven twitter and facebook cant prevent that unless implementing actual report system and humans to verify it. I bet even gdrive and onedrive have the same problems.

[@AngelFoxxoJP]

@@raquetdude So we're tackling google for hosting google drive as well now, yeah? I'm quite sure that a lot of stuff was hosted there for years before google had gotten to making a bot to prevent it (I'm assuming they did at least. I haven't looked into that aspect atm) Besides, as was said, they literally took many pieces of content of the sort down after it was reported. Sure, it existed for some amount of time, but the much larger source of content that existed was of movies and all, which many had taken down as well. I would say that this was more so only fair if he had been in charge of mega upload and purposely ignored such content while having it be reported by people, which is not the case.

[@Aika9104]

if buying isnt owning, piracy isnt stealing

[@michael654]

You will own nothing and be happy!

[@brony_in_the_sticks]

AI art isn't human less because there is a human behind the creation. But also piracy was never theft

[@MuscleTeamOfficial]

Stealing this one.

[@peacem4979]

it's just that copying is not stealing, you copy something the other person still have it, if i copy your book you still have it.

[@CRIMI0N]

Gabe Newell had it right: Piracy is a service issue.

[@SuperFlashDriver]

It's not just a service issue, it's an "Accessibility" issue. If we are not able to access the media, product, or material that we want, then we have to go out of our way, or band together with other people, to commit and upload it for the others to use as they see fit. Without accessibility, there would be no service.

[@NerdyWasTaken]

True and real, i can't get any new anime or non shounen manga without pirating it.The publishers does not lose anything because they didn't even see me as a potential customer. I don't have any way to officially buy/rent their products.

[@iyziejane]

That was true when he originally said it, but compare the Steam sales back then to the on-sale prices now. In poor regions (like the west is becoming) piracy will be popular regardless of how good the service is.

[@DudeSoWin]

Usury and Tax Evasion among other Null Service.

[@relo999]

I always find this "quote" rather hilarious because seemingly very few know the origin and just quote it from other people. It comes from an interview in 2006/7 where an interviewer asks how Steam became the biggest legal online retailer in Russia by having 20% of the digital sales market in Russia (again in 2006), with Gabe just giving marketing spin. Within that same interview the interviewer notes that still the vast majority of games in Russia are pirated and that Steam is the only player in the market with other legal vendors avoiding Russia. And all that also ignores Steams rather heavy (default) use of regional pricing both back then and now. It wasn't giving better service that made Steam the biggest legal digital games retailer in Russia, it was being the only one actually doing it and giving cheaper prices than buying them from western sources. And as for beating "piracy", back then most games were still pirated and modern Russia is still king of game piracy. And even back then most digital game sales in Russia were legally gray or black market sales. "Piracy is a service issue" quote is just marketing spin to avoid saying "yea we're the biggest legal retailer of digital games in Russia by being the only legal retailer of digital games in Russia".

[@tayzonday]

I violate copyright if I type “001011101000010101110101” and that data is part of a Disney film. If it’s part of The Lion King remake, it’s better-written than the film too.

[@ssp0ke]

3 min ago is wild. Hello

[@luszczi]

There is a wikipedia page for "illegal number".

[@realduck]

You should probably edit your comment, some of the letters in it are used in the Disney logo

[@AeroplaneB29]

You’re the guy who wrote the mama economy song. Based lol

[@shioq.]

it must be piracy that's lowering profits. couldn't be the unwatchable garbage the studios crap out.

[@DontCancelMeBro]

Music piracy is how I learned about new bands.. I went to their shows.. I bought their shirts.

[@LTPottenger]

shirts are the main moneymaker for most bands

[@shioq.]

know what killed music piracy? convenience at low cost: Spotify.

[@shioq.]

@@LTPottenger CD sales used to do HUGE numbers, but the record companies got all of that. now they whine that they can't make beaucoup bucks from just selling their music. Lars Ulrich blaming pirates for St. Anger being trash.

[@RT-qd8yl]

Music piracy (and later simply youtube) is how I discovered music that was actually good instead of the crap record labels wanted to shove down my throat.

[@nightelfuser]

Same here. Thanks to piracy I got to know a lot of cool bands.

[@charautreal]

they do less to catch predators than catching copyright infringement websites lol

[@chadwells7562]

Is that surprising? Catching a diddler costs money and only protects kids, catching copyright violators pleases multibillion dollar corporations. The state cares about the latter much more.

[@brony_in_the_sticks]

😂 just copyright your kids image then they'd jail predators for copyright infringement😂

[@Linkx16]

Because they are all predators behind the scenes.

[@chadwells7562]

@@charautreal KZbin deleted my comment. They obviously love the Chesters. Corporations are part of the regime, of course they care more about corporations being “hurt” than kids. Catching predators costs money too worst of all from their perspective.

[@TheKastellan]

Do children have money. No? Then they don't care (as much).

[@Hysteria98]

Years ago they literally even had US agents raid his home IN NEW ZEALAND acting all badass like they always pretend to be (The guy vaulting a 3 foot fence was a nice touch). You can see the CCTV footage on his channel, it's absolutely disgusting to this day. Especially when his kids were home.

[@wiirlak8681]

It's also highly illegal, from both the US and New Zealand, technically, everything they found can't be use against him and all charge should be dropped. That's litterally what the law says...

[@Thorned_Rose]

New Zealand's cops (and I live here) are not to be trusted. They tend towards egotism and regularly use excessive force or trample on people's basic rights. The NZ government sanctioned using a USW on peaceful protestors which Police happily went along with (during the Wellington Protest). At the same protest they also pepper spray bombed tents of sleeping people, including children. They used excessive force on another kid who was doing nothing but participating the peaceful protest. Every. Single. Time. protests in this country turn bad, it's Police inciting violence yet Every. Single. Time it's peaceful protestors who get blamed and our MSM is all too happy to spout whatever propaganda the govt tells them too. People have tried getting judicial reviews (our equivalent of suing the govt) but the only thing that comes out of it is that the courts side with the govt and we once again get reminded that human rights are a joke in this country and whatever flavour of the month party is in will do whatever keeps them elected.

[@Kaboomnz]

@@wiirlak8681 Hence why the US pushed to have him extradited.

[@derpysean1072]

​@@wiirlak8681 I thought they found jack shit . The law is what they say it is . Also no one supported this man, and in turn, support our own rights .

[@RichardBaran]

That video was wild

[@uberfeel]

"Good pirated material can create new fans" This line is absolutely true, I pirated stardew valley 2 years ago and had so much fun playing that game that I felt guilty for pirating that game, so a week later I bought the real game on steam.

[@JordyValentine]

When I was younger and had a crappy PC, I would pirate games to see if I could even get them to run, then if they were playable I would buy the game. Sort of like a demo

[@Edwin-iw8gb]

Yup I often pirate games just to try them and then buy it if I enjoyed it

[@zenchess]

Yeah and for every person who bought stardew valley because they pirated it, thousands more simply played it for free when they were a potential customer. Game purchases are impulse buys, and playing a pirated game takes away that impulse.

[@duckmeat4674]

Most people do not have this conscious however

[@knightdtd]

I pirated manga since I was in middle school. That turned me into a massive weeb that went to Japan, worked there and occasionally spent half my paycheck on on weeb stuffs.

[@Vyleea]

Two things you may never do or you will be punished by the full extend of the law: First, undermine the authority of the state. Second, threaten the big money people in their abilty to keep making more money. It's all about keeping the status quo.

[@progenitor_amborella]

>first Yeah tell that to the current GOP.

[@ADITYAMISHRA-h7g]

They are all, both (red and blue) bought and paid for

[@AndalusianLuis]

*extent

[@nwerd7584]

@@progenitor_amborella its a uniparty bro.

[@plastictouch6796]

Those are both one and the same. The authority of the state is granted by the moneyed interests specifically for defend the moneyed interests. You can't have the state as it currently exists without the moneyed interests. But you are right it's all about maintaining the status quo and reproducing the system. In other words, the matrix.

[@GoingtoHecq]

If he is not a citizen of the US then like, it is not our right to rule over him. US laws are not international. This is imperialism at its worst.

[@aname3576]

lmao pretty sure this is just hollywood getting revenge, and since “hollywood” types infest every government institution they get to decide who gets fucked with

[@XOFInfantryman]

Buddy do you even know what Imperialism is? Might wanna think next time before you open your mouth

[@LayZKimochi420BlazeIt]

@@XOFInfantryman How many foreign military bases are in the US exactly? Cause there are literal maps pin pointing the hundreds of US military bases around the world.

[@patrickhenry6695]

@@XOFInfantrymanyou might want to shut yours due to being completly wrong. Having military bases in other lands and being able to send their citizens to the imperial capital to be crushed is the very definition of an empire, now sit down and be silent

[@XOFInfantryman]

@@patrickhenry6695 FASCINATING Now would you kindly point out where exactly did ever brought up military bases, or any other things you speak of? No? If you really wanna pick fights then don't pick it with a strawman a guy above yours comment made up pal?

[@ziggyinta]

why even have laws in countries if one can be taken to where the law is different

[@TeH.j0keR]

globalism, in a nutshell

[@derpysean1072]

Brownies points, so that daddy US might consider giving you some attention in the future .

[@mickeyg7219]

Laws can be different, but if it's considered a crime in both countries (as well as international treaties), then extradition is possible as long as there aren't disagreement regarding the crime being punishable by death or not.

[@OLIVEREVILOLI]

We live under one ass big lie world order government, pretending to be enemies so the slave class doesn't take notice of the other less advertised atrocities.

[@bloepje]

A lot of trade agreements and criminal delivery agreements and wiretap agreements are *above* the local law. That's why they are dangerous. They are also abused: You can get more information in the Netherlands by requesting information from another country to request the information from the Netherlands. And usually that works both ways.

[@FranoGames]

and the un is going to criminalize writing, owning and distributing pentesting software

[@FrittenFritzgerald]

while legalizing pedo sex.

[@samblackstone3400]

Are you being sarcastic or serious?

[@lussor1]

Nowadays github is worse than megaupload

[@user-yn7ll3qz1p]

You misspelled WEF...

[@CarrotConsumer]

Is that in the fantasy book you're writing?

[@nothingtoseehere449]

it’s weird how they let him hang for 12 years until he started saying some things about certain greatest allies that they didn’t like

[@pajeetsingh]

Not sure if that tweeter screenshot was real or not. Did he even post that?

[@FrederickTheAnon14W]

It's almost like the people that say they have massive influence and control of all (g)overnments are true....or something.

[@quincyames2014]

@@pajeetsingh he was pretty vocal on his anti ukraine statments

[@interstellarsurfer]

Kim doesn't think highly of West Russia either. 👏

[@longiusaescius2537]

Shalom

[@hydra3468]

I hate glowies more everyday

[@seansingh4421]

Glowies keep us somewhat safe though

[@onegurd4598]

@@seansingh4421 Rubbish

[@JK-vb8di]

what the hell are glowies?

[@kachow5830]

@@seansingh4421yeah from all the terrorists…. Wait a sec

[@KAZ8264]

​@@JK-vb8di sounds like something a glowie would say

[@Azziee]

Land of the free my ass.

[@AceRa-i7n]

100%

[@Code7Unltd]

Ironically, Finland has more freedom than the United States, as per Freedon House. One needs to know the story of Aaron Swartz (or more specifically, his demise and subsequent memory-holing) to learn how much gold rules over Americans.

[@oz_jones]

​@@Code7Unltdsure it doesn't feel that way. We have though crime laws

[@AJ-po6up]

More like Land of the Hypocrites.

[@AJ-po6up]

@@Code7Unltd Almost no place in the West is free anymore, especially anything under the umbrella of the US or the EU.

[@0lig4rch19]

I remember pirating movies off Google Drive when I was younger, they'll never face repercussions though because they've got the government in their pocket just waiting on them hand on foot.

[@emily1]

I host pirated videos/movies using mega and regulary and they have no clue.. my friends used drive before to share smaller pirated files

[@accountname7738]

Kim's case is nothing like the silk road. In the silk road case, the service was specifically created for the intent of facilitating the transfer of illicit goods. Kim Dotcom, had a legitamate service that was abused.

[@derpysean1072]

The results are the same, big man is not that naive . The problem is that of government overreach , at this rate the surveilance state dystopia is not too far away .

[@brony_in_the_sticks]

​@@derpysean1072 Being naive isn't relevant because you are not responsible for what your users do it's exactly why KZbin doesn't get shut down as a result of what their users do. People are doing predatory and abusive things all over the internet but you don't see Meta getting shut down or KZbin getting shut down or Twitter getting shut down and their owners being jailed for the crimes of their users. If I'm understanding this correctly Kim is literally getting charged with copyright infringement because his users committed copyright infringement.

[@Madinko12]

​@@brony_in_the_sticksI was exposed to actual barbaric terrorist videos on twitter while searching for a completely unrelated topic. On Megaupload, you *had* to be actively, willingly, looking *outside megaupload* to find whatever illegal content you wanted, as the content was not indexed by Megaupload. On SilkRoad, KZbin, Twitter, Facebook, you are exposed to illegal content directly from the front page or from the search bar. If anything, Megaupload was actually better at preventing users from accessing illegal content.

[@Thiesi]

​@@brony_in_the_sticksExactly - you're not understanding it correctly.

[@Thiesi]

So it's _exactly_ like Silk Road then. Funny argument.

[@MaZe741]

>make laws >people follow the laws >the laws arent good >"well actually the people are criminals now"

[@r.a.6382]

Yes. This is why the west only ever worked with sortition to prevent corruption or public voting - so you know who the jew in the crowd is backing corruption (and then the others in that community just deal with them).

[@djpuplex]

Mega upload was a gem.

[@CeeZee001]

Glory internet days. I was In hs then. Even yt was good

[@attackhelicopter5986]

I feel Megaupload gets too much nostalgia, the ads were horrendous, and getting IP blocked after X Minutes of streaming to push for paid service was shitty too.

[@SuperFlashDriver]

Man, along with Limewire and early days of KZbin....Man, those were the days in the mid to late 2000s.

[@Peglegkickboxer]

​@@attackhelicopter5986smart people had web extensions to get past that, it wasn't hard. Just like KZbin today.

[@shioq.]

every time I read "mega upload" I hear Kim Dotcom saying it.

[@HiwasseeRiver]

We're conditioned to believe that democracy is voting every 4 years from a ballot prepared by oligarchic donors and foreign controlled interest groups. In fact democracy is voting + everyday voting with our purchases and setting a price for our purchases in a free market. Media content is, in the opinion of a lot of people worth nothing more than the cost of a VPN and other techniques to obtain the item of interest. The cases you mentioned are examples of oligarchs weaponizing the govt to suppress truly free markets and the democracy they represent.

[@derpysean1072]

It takes effort to do "voting" by our own actions . It is easier to say "I trust this politican more than the other one" and let them do their thing . Democracy is good in paper, "but the people are retarded" - Some Turban Dude .

[@brony_in_the_sticks]

Free markets inevitably lead to monopolies because companies will always try to maximize profit. But voting with your response to police action also counts as a form of democracy the entire country that stood idly by as one of their citizens were forced to observe another country's ruling. Voted that their rights don't matter neither does their culture or their people

[@DanishValkyrie]

Sounds to me like complying your way out of tyranny, but I think that is being kind of complacent with the situation. Authority should derive from consent of the governed, not from threat of force. I'd like to see a world where the gains from machines and automation was used to set us free from work and bring an era of voluntarism. In my opinion we should keep striving for a better way of doing things. Intelligence begins with "I don't know", and it flourishes with "I was wrong." What is more important than people thinking you're good, is people trusting that you'll always be honest. I genuinely feel like the world is full of intelligent people who want to do the right thing and we just need to see a better way of doing things, but right now democracy seems to be gamed by bad actors and the world happens at such a fast pace, that politics have devolved to a simple yet complex tool for winning the modern battleground of "public opinion". Don`t tell the truth, just keep talking. “You can sway a thousand men by appealing to their prejudices quicker than you can convince one man by logic.” ― Robert A. Heinlein Personally I think we're headed for idiocracy; due diligence can't exist in post-truth society.

[@laarsss]

free market xD

[@r.a.6382]

@@brony_in_the_sticks You cant maximize profits an create a monopoly without an existing monopoly on force to maintain control of a limited resource, force to mandate using a good/money you control. In a free market you can just copy/rip off or choose the community you want to interact with or exclude on individual basis. Why don't they just try to extradite someone from Tencent. Go on. I'll fucking wait for the results of that. I play a lot of path of exile - a game with a free market barter economy. There is a group that does RMT and has a monopoly on the trading. My friends and I found exploits with patches that caused the developers to step in and do something because we could compete with this group who gives the devs a cut via their shell rmt company based in christchurch nz - so it wasn't actually the people with control of the market that were able to maintain a monopoly because they were also botting, breaking terms of service, and social engineering. It was the monopoly on authority (the game devs patch hammer) that maintains it just like the cartels masquerading as government do to real world assets via "regulation".

[@Moziilla.Firefox]

is buying isn't owning than piracy isn't stealing 🗿

[@useritiswhatitis4655]

if* buying isn't owning then* piracy isn't stealing. ESL moment🗿

[@danksmemington362]

Buying is owning and piracy isn't stealing

[@einaccount5169]

​@@danksmemington362 lol no ask sony

[@brony_in_the_sticks]

​@@danksmemington362 No it's not, it's renting , or depending on what your purchasing renting a license. And piracy has never been stealing, because piracy is just unauthorized access. Piracy is the equivalent of walking into a library picking up a book and reading it, and then getting yelled at because the creator of the book doesn't want you reading it. Or when you browse the front page of a magazine that you're going to purchase from a store. The store still has the magazine, it hasn't been damaged in any way shape or form but they don't like the fact that you were able to read any part of it without paying them first. The only difference is that with digital content you can purchase that magazine and then 3 days later they can take it back from you

[@czerskip]

There's no such thing as "media piracy". There's media sharing, downloading, copying. Stop using the words hijacked by corporations to distort reality.

[@zombeeCAL]

exactly

[@ibex485]

Good point. The software license agreement may say you can't share the software. But that's an agreement between the vendor and the user who purchased it. MegaUpload or whoever was never party to that agreement, never ticked 'I agree'. And what's being broken is a simple service contract govened by civil law, between the vendor & customer. The same for the restrictions printed on the back of a CD case or the unskippable warning at the start of a DVD.

[@xDMG15x]

The real media piracy is charging people to “rent” or “own” movies on your streaming platform for years and then one day deciding to shut down the streaming service.

[@ibex485]

@@xDMG15x Good point. Piracy in the true nautical sense involves taking peoples money & valuables by threatening them with dire consequences if they don't hand them over. Sounds a lot more like how Sony & co. operate than MegaUpload or ThePirateBay ever did.

[@sonny8085]

Utter BS. Start doing your own job for free and see how far you get. The people who pay for media upon its release are also paying for the pirates who make up some BS that they are somehow entitled to it.

[@johnbill739]

Should have gone to Russia or at least a non western country

[@FrederickTheAnon14W]

That's what I've been saying! Australia is one of the "Five Eyes", and pretty much all Western countries have signed bills that allow them to do stuff like this.

[@ATomRileyA]

Kim is a informant and been a conman his whole life. He got a bunch of hackers jailed back in the day for informing on them. He has always been a fraud.

[@user-yn7ll3qz1p]

@@FrederickTheAnon14W NATO is a fascist bioterrorist group...

[@liquidsnake6879]

A last resort because Russia is a s***hole and an open tyranny, shamelessly so, no person who believes in freedom would ever move there unless they're forced to like Snowden was. I have my problems with western despotism but that's no reason to support eastern despotism. I want freedom above all and though the west is very very flawed and increasingly becoming tyrannical, it's still not as openly or as shamelessly tyrannical as China or Russia are.

[@gruzi.]

if he doesnt want aids he'll stay out of russia, maybe an east asian or latin american country.

[@JwpGaming]

Ah yes, The greatest crime of all: someone in a powerful position somewhere lost money because of your actions.

[@Thorned_Rose]

And not even much money - just a drop in the bucket of their mammoth income.

[@TeH.j0keR]

*didn't even lose money, their oligarchy just failed to collect any in this one particular instance

[@derpysean1072]

@@Thorned_Rose No, it is not just about the revenue lost by pirating . It is one more reason, for expansion of power .

[@brony_in_the_sticks]

I mean technically if I'm understanding correctly they didn't even lose money because of his actions. If I understand correctly he created a service, that service wasn't intended for illegal use. It'd be like charging the CEO of KZbin with billions of dollars of copyright infringement because some of their users illegally post videos, that are copyright protected and their AI doesn't catch it. We both know that the people who run KZbin are not going to be punished if somebody uploads the entire Harry Potter series and they don't catch it the person who uploaded it is. And we both know that if the FBI finds illegal material on this site or Twitter they're not going to go after the owner of KZbin or Elon musk they're going to go after the people who posted it. They went after Kim because he said something they didn't like but also because his country was ran by pansies who didn't respect their own citizens rights, to not be traffic and sold as a sex slave to prison inmates in a completely different country. The only correct way to respond to this is to revoke all copyright protections for the human trafficker nation and basically refused to comply

[@madokalover]

they never even lost money, they potentially didn't make as much money as they thought they would have based on some people's opinions. "piracy" isn't a crime, there are no victims, not even the big corpos

[@ratgreen]

Its crazy because with a google search you can find un encrypted full pirated movies hosted on public google drives but theres 0 repercussion for google for hosting said files. Why the inconsistency of enforcement feds ?

[@SqualidsargeStudios]

Yeah odd isn’t it, how huge corporations are never to seldom held responsible for the exact same bs. If only facebook, googs etc were being held fully responsible for it.

[@chadwells7562]

Google provides services and weapons tech to the State, that’s the difference

[@brony_in_the_sticks]

It's the USA when have they ever been consistent.

[@chadwells7562]

@@brony_in_the_sticks This is actually completely wrong. We’re extremely consistent. Google is a sanctioned franchise of the regime and Kim’s huge butt is a commoner who pissed off people who matter. The consistency is who rules gets applied to, not in what the rules are applied. In that we see what the actual rules are: Rich and connected do whatever you want as long as you don’t piss off other important people, if you’re not then toe the line.

[@r.a.6382]

@@SqualidsargeStudios Facebook is STILL hosting csam to this day....

[@GhostofTradition]

proud to say my kid has never watched Disney +, only pirated Disney movies 😎

[@privateagent]

Same. Offline media rulezz!

[@oz_jones]

Based

[@AJ-po6up]

I've never been subscribed to a streaming services and never will, and neither will my children. If I can't own it or have it on my drives then I don't buy it.

[@Froggmeningreen]

Even pirated, I'm not sure Disney movies are good for kids...

[@uberfeel]

>Paul Goldsmith >Check his Wikipedia EVERY. SINGLE. TIME

[@kristoffer8609]

"Goldsmith". Did you even need to check?

[@dertythegrower]

wiki is corpo-&state-controlled now.. even the cofounder says it all the time on many podcast and interviews..

[@dertythegrower]

wikipedia is totally admined by gov and locked to say the opinion of the rich

[@Oclus8]

When, long ago, the gods created Earth In Jove's fair image Man was shaped at birth. The beasts for lesser parts were next designed; Yet they were too remote from humankind. To fill the gap, and join the rest of Man, Th'Olympian host conceiv'd a clever plan. A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure, Filled it with vice, and called the thing a Κіkе.

[@WilliamBrwn]

OY VEY!

[@Glidedon]

The Equal Protection clause should come into play , but our justice system is corrupted.

[@RichardBaran]

Equal protection clause? No you miss understand that, it's only for the powerful.

[@max7971]

Why would fourteenth amendment apply to a non us citizen? Either he is, and therefore US can extradite, or he isn’t-and equal protection does not apply. Stop cherry picking these things.

[@user-gi7vi9gm4t]

@@max7971 US is extraditing so ...

[@brony_in_the_sticks]

That only works for American citizens and I don't think he was one. Which is why they were able to do this. Well should I say it appears to only work for American companies not the actual citizens themselves because individuals always get arrested for what people do using their sites unless they get big enough to become a monopoly

[@brony_in_the_sticks]

​@@max7971 So I'm going to go so far as to say that no laws should apply to a non-us citizen. When the crime isn't being committed by the person being accused. Plus each country has their own laws and their own way of running things which means that the only thing New Zealand needed to do in response to this BS was just revoke America's copyright protection because they don't value human life. Tell them that that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard that because KZbin owner and Elon musk doesn't get punished for the bad stuff people do while using their site they're not going to tolerate this level of hypocrisy and if they don't bug her off they're going to end up losing their right to have any of their work protected within their in their country Of course we know how that would end America is a crybaby they couldn't get their way so they'll nuke the other country because they don't actually support freedom

[@vascolanasungaro3248]

He ratioed Elon Musk on a thread about Israel. That's the issue.

[@hendrx]

That's when they go extra hard

[@Hellokemon]

Ah yes israhell

[@mushyroom9569]

I thought Elon Musk was a Nazi?

[@BichaelStevens]

Eilon did give a speech at Davos about how he's part Jewish himself

[@mushyroom9569]

I thought Elon was a N@zi.

[@CourageToGroww]

when Pavel Durov video

[@DanielKarnole-fs3hm]

Came here for this… I’m guessing tomorrow.

[@Mornings]

I'll never forget he was number 1 on the mw3 leaderboards the day he was arrested a true king

[@blackagent4754]

Now, that's based. I wonder how many Moabs he got.

[@SnipingIsAGoodJobMate]

blud got arrested for pixels on the screen 💀💀💀

[@brony_in_the_sticks]

The obscenity law in a nutshell, they've been doing that for centuries. But technically if I understand this story correctly bro got arrested because other people pirated stuff using his services. There are literally full uploads of videos and stuff on KZbin and you don't see Susan or whoever runs its butt in prison right now for piracy.

[@AceRa-i7n]

Real criminals walking free, but sure, go after people helping humanity out.

[@TFSimple]

lol. lmao even. Kim is not a hero if you seen his twitter. He's known to spread lies, right wing conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda (because he hates America). I hope they throw him a prison for these alone.

[@cid3384]

Kim is an internet legend, a true boss They hate him because he singlehandedly owns something they want to control. They control Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Apple and the smaller ones. This has nothing to do with copyright infringement.

[@Splarkszter]

"It's not about who does what. But about what does who"

[@maximus4765]

"Stop having fun!"

[@Dave_Parrott]

The real news here is that disney+ is 4.5% of internet traffic! What!? I've only met two people willing to admit they have a subscription. The world truly is doomed.

[@Zevzs727]

There is no Ethical argument for "piracy" being wrong. It's as he said at the end It's just states protecting their rich buddy's....

[@TeH.j0keR]

Politicians should have to wear their kneepads on stage.

[@burhanbudak6041]

5 eyes countries isnt safe.

[@tanostrelok2323]

Even in countries who don't bother with pursuing the stuff you might get your rear end handed to big anglo if you happen to be in charge in one of such hubs.

[@privateagent]

I always thought he was crazy going to New Zealand

[@rockbolton8173]

Land of the free for me, but not for thee

[@r.a.6382]

Land of the fee, home of the slave.

[@vmfvictor]

People should really read his white paper on it. What they're doing to him is a sham.

[@XBret64]

Where can I find it?

[@vmfvictor]

@@XBret64 just look for "megaupload the copyright lobby and the future of digial rights white paper"

[@based980]

how find

[@hahahano2796]

IIRC the UN did a study and found that "piracy" increases sales in every instance. For some industries it lowered sales (slightly) then upped them a lot moving forward.

[@E0NZpixel]

Yes, but only for video games. IIRC it had no effect on music and everything else suffered some kind of loss due to piracy.

[@luszczi]

"I can't even tell you how many times I pirated a movie..." Yeah, you can't, because piracy is an extraditable crime.

[@brony_in_the_sticks]

It shouldn't be, facilitating people being sexually assaulted in prison, because they watched something that didn't involve real people being hurt. You didn't want them to should be a death penalty offense.

[@robertoXCX]

Kim Dotcom is by no means a saint, but as a broke kid who grew up online I'll always respect his contribution to the "everything is free if you know where to go" internet that got me through childhood without losing my mind to boredom in the age before streaming. US would rather put his head on a stake as a threat to anyone that undermines their precious media corporations "theoretical" sales... Sales that would've never even happened to begin with because some people are too broke to afford entertainment ON TOP OF affording to survive. Data deserves to flow freely!

[@superjuddy]

We need to do something about the state of corruption. WE.

[@jordansomeone2555]

Not enough people care sadly

[@XBret64]

All we can do is keep spreading awareness

[@vlad-dracul]

He will be carried around the US court system like a fairground bear.

[@rch5395]

Hot take if people misuse your product for illegal activities doesn't mean you should be charged. In the same way, no knife company is charged while people live in London.

[@zaper2904]

Mental Outlaw doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. This guy isn't being charged for hosting illegal content he's being charged for *paying* *people* *to* *upload* illegal content.

[@brony_in_the_sticks]

​@@zaper2904 Citations, because I have not seen that anywhere. And I'm pretty sure that uploading illegal material of the concept that they're talking about is also illegal in New Zealand so they would not have needed to extradite him because they would have been able to charge him in his own country so this is just kind of suspicious

[@zaper2904]

@@brony_in_the_sticks Literally just read the indictment. They charge him for paying "top uploaders" despite knowing full well they were uploading illegal content as well as not fully complying with DMCA requests.

[@blackwatch2516]

​@@zaper2904thanks for clearing things up

[@Wingedmagician]

this is a sign that we are one step closer to a full on cyberpunk dystopia

[@captaincommando9839]

We're getting closer to 2054 every day.

[@pajeetsingh]

Paul Goldsmith? Justice Mini-ster???? When? How?

[@k6-3spetznazhelmet]

they always get into positions of power to control gentle countries

[@pajeetsingh]

@@k6-3spetznazhelmet This is concerning.

[@bobSeigar]

​@@k6-3spetznazhelmetWell yeah, you're too busy trying to figure out what a woman is while we rob you. We even tell you AND have you vote on it. You still send it. Every. Time. Shalom. 😊

[@blackagent4754]

​@@k6-3spetznazhelmetGentile*

[@Vexnatos]

​@@k6-3spetznazhelmetmay there soon be children named for you.

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

Can we revert the definition of media piracy to its original meaning. Making money off media without paying royalties is piracy, and should be legally punished. Sharing media with no money changing hands is just that, sharing, and not wrong in any way.

[@brony_in_the_sticks]

Nope I don't agree with this, I don't agree that I should be punished because I charge someone to watch Netflix with me. Gotta eat bro.

[@overjoyed4505]

Over reach much?

[@sirdeboben]

That's the USA WAY BABY FUCK YEAH HOORAWWWW

[@overjoyed4505]

@@sirdeboben OORAH USA USA!

[@grimwaltzman]

Extradition treaties have existed for millenia at this point.

[@sirdeboben]

@@grimwaltzman the king has been allowed to bed your wife for centuries now, bootlicker

[@croozerdog]

@@grimwaltzman but it's rare to even extradite the most violent criminals if they aren't fleeing US citizens

[@Bloom_HD]

Honestly, considering how New Zealand approaches internet privacy, I don't even blame them. He should have known they'd do that to him

[@CarrotConsumer]

Hobbits hate piracy.

[@phillipanselmo8540]

victim blaming?? you like the feds mate??

[@Bloom_HD]

@@phillipanselmo8540 more like moe ron blaming. It's no secret NZ is pozzed. He should have known they'd turn him in and pulled a snowden

[@derpysean1072]

@@Bloom_HD Yeah now that you mention it, I think he was asking for it .

[@oz_jones]

​@@CarrotConsumer sneaky little hobbitses, we hates them

[@liquidsnake6879]

It's a tragedy that good people like Kim are forced to flee to a place like Russia due to persecution in the supposed free world

[@chocolate_squiggle]

The vatnik bots are here.

[@privateagent]

Free world before being conquered by TPTB

[@andrewk.7498]

​@@chocolate_squiggleupcuck

[@InkyBlitz]

@@chocolate_squiggle Have you been to this channel before? lol

[@Kolesha]

​@@chocolate_squiggleResorting to ad hominim because you can't think of a counter argument?

[@SimGunther]

So why not make their own better solution? They really are that scared of improving one of the most important parts of using the internet: sharing any files?

[@FrederickTheAnon14W]

In times like this I'm reminded of the early days of the Internet in the mid-late 90's and the early 2000's. I'm reminded of those times because it was before the Internet became corporatized and ever increasingly authoritarian under world governments.

[@RAVEヽ]

@@FrederickTheAnon14W I miss the old internet, it was amazing.

[@FrederickTheAnon14W]

@@RAVEヽ I do as well. It was much more laid back and free. It was not as polished and sleek as the modern internet, but it really made up for it in the lack of corporatization and blatant control. Looking back a lot of us didn't see that those times WERE the good times, since we thought the internet would always be the way that it was at the time. Unfortunately as in the real physical world, the chains that bind us online are being formed slowly, link by link.

[@goofyahdemoman1134]

They want 100% control over you.

[@SnipingIsAGoodJobMate]

Sharing any file except the ones you cannot share because... because they just don't want you to, okay?!

[@IndieAuthorX]

I do not think it is a coincidence that the golden age of longform TV entertainment came during the piracy era, and it's downfall comes during the streaming hegemony.

[@block-buster1039]

Goldsmith huh?

[@pajeetsingh]

Your noticing is impeccable.

[@fzcxcxzzxcxz7236]

It literally is EST

[@MayorSom]

shhhhhhhhh!!!!! watch it mate! don't touch the third rail 🤫

[@longiusaescius2537]

Shalom

[@furretforsmash8596]

shut it down!

[@user-mc5pl6xk9x]

I remember the lawsuits by Metallica against LimeWire. Now, Metallica, although praised for their countless hits, is also known as the greedy band that sued out of pettiness. Meanwhile Radiohead became popular because of piracy, since people could listen to them for free and if they liked the music, they would go to their concerts and support them financially. It really goes to show that piracy does not necessarily hurt your brand or your profits, but fighting against it guarantees losses in profits (much like Denuvo, which everyone hates)

[@user-bkey]

its so funny that sharing files is considered so illegal can you imagine if kids got locked up because they gave a friend one of their games

[@musicalneptunian]

Let's not forget either the Dutch programmer for Mega Upload who was extradited about 10 years ago and spent a year in a US jail.

[@privateagent]

Tell me more

[@Thiesi]

Almost seems it's not the best idea to do business with criminals.

[@KYLE-zo4bm]

this is happening again?? what year is it

[@FrederickTheAnon14W]

Election year, in the US.

[@longiusaescius2537]

Jewish NZ Minister

[@privateagent]

Again .. and again. Don't forget the mpox too !!

[@tbhUSuckOo]

@@UberFoX Ironic comment since George Orwell was a fed, a plagiarist and a rapist too!

[@croozerdog]

@@longiusaescius2537 distracting from the real issues because you're scared of jews is such an annoyingly deep level of dumb

[@autumnjeserich2689]

The precedent him getting megauploaded to prison could set is very dystopian

[@derpysean1072]

Silk Road already set it . We are already fucked .

[@user-gi7vi9gm4t]

@@derpysean1072 silk road was created with the purpose to distribute / enable the dist of illegal content , this is different the platform was legit

[@RoronoaZorosHaki]

Snowden wasn’t trying to flee to Russia. He got stuck there.

[@miken3963]

Yep, people forget that he didn't really want to stay in Russia. He was trying to find asylum in Western countries and got denied. He tried Hong Kong and got told to pound sand by the Chinese. He even declined Putin's original offer of asylum - it was conditional on him shutting up and ceasing any activities that could upset Uncle Sam. Snowden found the balls to say no (while staying in the transit zone of an airport in Moscow no less) and continued shopping for asylum elsewhere. He only settled on Russia after it was made clear that he would never make it to Sourh America in the first place. And at no point did Putin actually want him to stay, spoiling the relationship with the US of A for zero gain. But giving him up after all of that big talk about standing up to Uncle Sam would have made him look like a bitch. And he really hates looking like a bitch. So Snowden was granted asylum, along with a heartfelt wish of "we hope you leave Russia as soon as an opportunity to do so presents itself". I'm not kidding, that's almost a literal translation of a quote by Putin. People see Russia as some kind of a negative of US of A. If Uncle Sam wants you for something, Mother Russia will greet you with open arms. And the more Uncle Sam wants you, the warmer the welcome in Moscow. Nope. Russia will try to trade its spies and assassins back. But no one in Moscow would give two fucks about Kim Dotcom. He's neither a Russian asset, nor famous enough to matter.

[@mushyroom9569]

BS

[@GODber777]

@@mushyroom9569 why is your comment glowing?

[@user-gi7vi9gm4t]

@@GODber777 try to enable dark mode

[@brony_in_the_sticks]

​@@mushyroom9569 I mean I also buy that he wasn't trying to be in Russia specifically he just ended up there. As that's the only place that won't extradite him, you know until he pisses Putin or someone off

[@hung8969]

0:59 truly a hero Edited to say. If he goes down. DISCORD is WAYYY worse. I’m in 15-20 that are just for ripping models from games… 5+ for ufc, motocross and any other paid ppv I refuse to pay for. Discord is literally mega upload but with chat and streaming.

[@ToonLinkah]

Same with Telegram!

[@ILoveTinfoilHats]

And kiddie touchers!!

[@based-p2b]

@@ILoveTinfoilHats You'd know

[@patrickhenry6695]

Discord doesn’t criticize Israel tho, that’s the reason

[@ILoveTinfoilHats]

@@based-p2b yeah, there was a big one called "based" or something idk

[@4.0.4]

The internet back then was such a FUN place, kids these days will never know.

[@WretchMusou]

the memory of megaupload brought a tear to my eyes...

[@PlanetAstronox]

"This is democracy manifest!!!"

[@oz_jones]

I wonder if those feds knew their judo well 🤔

[@muhdiversity7409]

Think of all those Kids Disney can snuff out now without any penalty because they're watching Disney+ and never read the TOS. Their parents should be ashamed. RIP.

[@brony_in_the_sticks]

What, I read the TOs and even I'm confused

[@Falsechicken]

I first saw the movie Blazing Saddles using a pirated copy and now as a result I am going to pay to see the 50th freaking anniversary screening. There is no way I would have paid to watch a 50 year old movie I knew nothing about at home. I just would not have seen it and missed out. Thanks to piracy I am going to pay to go to the theater. Which is also something I rarely do.

[@gruzi.]

literally 1984

[@AmiraMb-w3m]

It's clearing because he called out the Zionists... Every single time

[@mtbrain1]

the absolute worst part is they're forcing him to be in the dreaded US. who the heck wants to set foot in that hellscape? the US is so fucked.

[@daa3417]

This has nothing to do with copyright it was political, he angered the chosen tribe.

[@blackagent4754]

So Kim Dotcom is actually Kim Dotbased?

[@pedromain]

Well, I see much more copyright infringement using Google Drive today than Megaupload in its time. Will they arrest Sergey Brin?

[@redacted5035]

Kimdotcom vs Sergey Brin trial by combat

[@sirdeboben]

Homie is protected just like Facebook is tf. Hope he gets a good lawyer like Thuggers

[@ElNeroDiablo]

FBI & DoJ have fought extremely hard to prevent Kim from even having lawyers in NZ, they will burn a hole in the US Budget to prevent him from having any half-decent representation in the US.

[@user-yn7ll3qz1p]

Musk will fund his legal team...

[@brony_in_the_sticks]

It won't work as non-us citizens are not, entitled to a lawyer in the same way everyone else is and they're going to deem all of his funds are illegal gains and sees it under the seizure laws and he's not going to be able to afford one. That rule only applies to mega corporations it doesn't apply to individuals if you make a website right now when people start using it for bad things you will go to jail. Even if you didn't know they were using it for that because you just made the site and had an AI manage it from then on and you hadn't went back to it for like 30 years. They don't care.

[@berndblabla4249]

American isnt free

[@av4055]

“Forcibly Megaupload him to the united states” sent me 😅

[@Randomynous01]

Why is Kim mentioning Infowars? He can’t be that dumb… he can’t… allying with Alex Jones, REALLY?

[@Xander081987]

You're the actual idiot in this situation. Alex Jones has been right about ALOT More than he was wrong.

[@remsee1608]

Free Kim

[@37kilocharlie]

Actually Ross sold shrooms on the dark web.

[@link1565V2]

New Zealand has an awful government.

[@umbralgaming3443]

U.S Department of Protecting our best interests, lining our pockets and punishing people for helping others because we’ll lose some profit

[@user-ly1ko6be9t]

mega isnt even that good anymore what do they have against him

[@Kungpl0w]

Section 230 is a federal bill that sheilds social media site and basically most companies in the US from having to face any charges for the stuff that happens on their platforms but Kim is not allowed this. Repeal section 230 and hold these sites accountable.

[@xmeo209]

I am SO glad I don't have to live in this "free" country

[@realduck]

Free him! He doesn't deserve any of this.

[@onlywiki]

Thanks for the new upload, Mental Outlaw!

[@IamNiggler]

Yummy

[@jm036]

$500 million in damages is the number I've heard thrown around.... That's like a movie budget or two.

[@TechGorilla1987]

He's not going down without a fight.

[@mattstroker3742]

Very well spoken, sir. New Zealand and Australia.... Ever since covid we saw them for who they really are in politics over there. Just like the UK now has more than shown itself. As did a large part of the USA.

[@kneel1]

I never liked the guy but i appreciated his paying off lizard squad because like Kim, we all wanted to raid in Destiny that weekend

[@kobold7466]

i always pirate my movies, shows, and games. sometimes i pay for games but usually through key resellers to get a good deal. this is how everyone should get their entertainment

[@undefined879]

Land of the RRREEEEEE

[@user-vg6qv5jv3w]

If the country won't do the same in reverse roles, they shouldn't expect it to be done for them. We have a constitutional right to not be sent off to other countries on a whim. But this country is willing to do that to other humans. Disgraceful.

[@picklerick814]

i see piracy in this way: even if it is sent to me encrypted, they also have to send to decryption key to me. if i am smart enough to decrypt it - i was given all the necessary info to decrypt it. SHARING decrypted files though is a way other thing in my opinion. i should be able to build a digital VCR for myself

[@brony_in_the_sticks]

Yes, yes you should. If you have some old VHSs that you can't use because all of the VCRs are basically non-existent. And you have the know-how or are able to use AI to help you you should be able to use tech to uncode all of the stuff you paid for and archive it so that it doesn't become lost media lost forever. For two reasons one because you could be telling the truth about a movie that you've actually seen and people will try to put you in a psych ward because they don't believe it exists and because you can't provide evidence because you're not legally allowed to do the thing that we're talking about. But too because I personally believe that if you love something it is your right to make sure that something never gets destroyed and we have seen the companies will throw their material under the bus because they want the new stuff to thrive they don't care about the old stuff. Personal expression is a right and if, duplicating this thing that you love very much because you respect the original artist and don't want their work to be disappeared forever because a corporation does not value it anymore well that should in fact be your right

[@brony_in_the_sticks]

The short answer is that yes everyone with the tack and capacity and know how. To recreate things that they love, as an expression of love for those things should not be punished for doing so. I could agree with you if your issue is you just don't make them and sell them. You're only making them because you love it and you're expressing yourself and your desire to never lose it.

[@Slash27015]

Zuckerberg profiting off users posting copyrighted content on facebook: ✅ Sarah profiting off users posting copyrighted content on youtube: ✅ Kim Dotcom profiting off users posting copyrighted content on mega: 💀 America and it's insecurity about foreign trade is disturbing

[@psynuxx]

I'm a music producer. I do it for the love of making music, and once found one of my tracks on a pirate music site. I was so happy that it was good enough to be there, and it reaches more people.

[@brony_in_the_sticks]

So you support, humans using AI to help them learn how to use virtual instruments? And if someone were to train the AI using your music, so it can understand the kind of genre that they want to make you'd be perfectly fine with that? Because if the answer to that question is no you're a hypocrite

[@psynuxx]

​@@brony_in_the_sticks Yes. How is AI learning from my music any different to other artists being inspired by the work of others. For years artists and musicians, even writers, have taken ideas from other works. Just look at Stranger Things by the Duffer brothers, they admit to this (see their masterclass).

[@r.a.6382]

Definitely. I love buying merch from small artist stores and swag at concerts to support my artists - but I'ma download yer song.

[@psynuxx]

@@r.a.6382 Thanks :)

[@Utrilus]

@@brony_in_the_sticks They are not the same, in his case the music being shared between people is more akin to marketing. Tho it'd be similar if he talked about other artists learning from his music and copying him. Some artists hate to be copied, some think it's the greatest show of respect, as for the public it's a great crime whether it's an AI doing it or a human.