Kimbal Musk: The Art of Cooking, Tesla, SpaceX, Zip2, and Family | Lex Fridman Podcast

[@lexfridman]

Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. Transcript: lexfridman.com/kimbal-musk-transcript 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Eight Sleep: eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings - ExpressVPN: expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free - NetSuite: netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour - BetterHelp: betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off 1:02 - Growing up in South Africa 13:32 - Cooking 36:18 - Ingredients 43:23 - Anthony Bourdain 45:38 - Cooking school 1:01:58 - Life-threatening accident 1:16:02 - Road trip across US 1:27:45 - Zip2 1:32:28 - Tesla 1:39:53 - SpaceX 1:43:36 - Hope for the future

[@huntingkc1]

Hey Lex, please Google England's nursery as there is a Ukrainian and a Russian fruit that I grow an orchard full of.... You might want to interview Mr England, at the least ask him about a roseyanka Persimmons

[@aba9939]

Bro take it easy with the ads. This was impossible to listen to

[@davedavisness]

Please interview: Rabbi Elhanan Beck, George Galloway, Ilan Pappe, Christopher Bollyn, Mohammed El-Kurd (part 2)

[@key_key_mb]

I believe rap is a great tool for making an impact on earth. I am a songwriter and would love to hear your thoughts on my wokrs.

[@albinataggart4846]

I really think you are a beautiful bright person that rarely comes along in life much less exist to break barriers to be accessible…. I can’t empathize your position in life but will make wild assumption based upon limited logic…. Please reach outside of your comfort zone of people. Like talk to people you fear . From by economic ecosystem I can’t understand what your interests are interviewing Tucker, Grimes, Kimbal, and Kayne are. I listen to Tucker and there is no one who can hold him accountable for disagreeing with him or anyone else… so they sound reasonable. Please don’t interview ppl who “use to be in the CIA”… like interview real people like real people making real differences…. How do you find them? I dunno LinkedIn? Your center of access gets more narrow as you go up… kinnda sounds lonely…. Find new people man. Like interview the guy from Iron Maiden or Hank Green or the lead singer from Rage Against the Machine… fuck Gwar would be awesome or the man who does School of Life(Brilliant BRILLIANT man). Please Lex

[@maxivy]

Just wanted to show some appreciation Lex for making it about Kimbal and his life, and not just interviewing him solely as Elon’s brother. Respect. Other interviewers didnt do this

[@topfloorroom429]

Very nicely said....

[@Jon-jz8wk]

Same! Very great comment! Lex is a class act! Love it!

[@akil_almaeiz5652]

I’m here to show my appreciation for the fact that I didn’t even know this was Elon musk’s brother in till I can read this comment

[@GOD999MODE]

Genuine, nice guy with his own set of noteworthy accomplishments. His intuition and attention to detail and overall concience is admirable.

[@saiga404]

pretty crazy thing to say about a guy that was mates with Epstein

[@etomichelverny]

My Overoverovergod

[@ramblerandy2397]

Kimbal is defintely the Yang to his brother's Yin. They love each other, have similar values, yet look at life differently. It works well.

[@lIIest]

lol, both are full of shit

[@aline_m_1976]

It's the other way around, Elon is the yang and Kimbal the yin ;-)

[@ramblerandy2397]

@@aline_m_1976I'm fine with that.

[@jaedonlong4084]

@@ramblerandy2397 no no, thats the point, yin yang, yang yin

[@rott6665]

I worked for The kitchen for just over four years. As a young cook it was the perfect experience. It was my first “real” cooking job. Cool to see this interview. Thank you Lex

[@etomichelverny]

My Overoverovergod

[@joncamp9126]

I really enjoyed this one, I needed an interview like this that gives me more hope in these strange times. I love his positivity! Him and his brother seem so alike yet perfectly different. I felt like I got to know him and his brother much better in this podcast. In a way that strengthens my faith in the people fighting for a brighter future! Lex really brings out the best in his guests in a way that is so unique to him. I admire how comfortable he makes his guests. I watch a lot of different podcasts and Lex is one of the best at his job!

[@meredithortiz743]

I really like this guy. He seems to be a beautiful soul. His family&friends must feel truly blessed,to have him in their lives.🥰

[@pamholloway8924]

He is also (from my understanding) working to have Colorado be the first digital currency state which will make it a lot easier to control people’s actions by controlling their access to their money.

[@Iluvthinkers25]

Kimbal, Kimbal, Kimbal...Not what I expected. What a truly sweet and kind, nice guy. OMG-food...Just cut it out. I am slobbering while you guys talked. The peach talk is killing me. Men and talking about peaches, it can't get better than this. Way to go Lex. Lovely conversations and lovely thoughts about being a human being and inter-relating with each other. Just sweet and endearing.

[@SatoriRose]

I once told my father that the only thing he ever taught me was what kind of person not to be. The trauma does indeed permeate through time, but I consider it a valuable gift that helped build my character.

[@жизненный_опыт]

Wow so dramatic.

[@eddiewawa]

I agree, but unfortunately this was for both parents.

[@calebwilliams586]

​@ziloj-perezivat did you take personal offense? Outing yourself a bit there mate

[@жизненный_опыт]

Yeah when my daughter said she doesnt want to me like me I had to send in the paramilitary groups to take her to Siberia@@calebwilliams586

[@ctloo0808]

@@жизненный_опыт clown

[@roberto_camp]

Instantly one of my all-time fav LF pods. I had heard of "Kimbal Musk" but never knew his story. Loved it!

[@jonathanlaue3460]

Like Kimbal and Elon, I am 47 and grew up in Pretoria South Africa. I can assure you that life was very precious for whites. Religion and family played an integral role in society. Where life was cheap was in the black townships. A whole different world. After the genocide in Rwanda where millions were murdered with machetes, it was a wake up call and finally time to leave Africa behind. Those who think this is racist have never been there.

[@baxterblack3700]

Wow Kimbal comes across as such a genuine life loving person. Great interview!

[@etomichelverny]

My Overoverovergod

[@eter_inquirer]

Never commented before. Followed Elon and Kimbal for ages, never heard Kimbal speak before. His character is so endearing 🙏 and thank you Lex, for interviewing him for who he is.

[@EmergentStardust]

I met Kimbal a few years ago on a cruise called Summit at Sea and he seemed really decent. He was really all about the family table and I've taken that with me. Truly. I was all about minimizing suffering in our food sources and he seemed really receptive about it ❤

[@jackfasano7431]

He has the Elon laugh. I love it.

[@RoseReadings]

And the style of speech as well. They both have these short stops

[@Dedicated_.1]

It’s their dads laugh

[@rakishlyaskew]

that's how rich people laugh

[@jamieology2195]

@@rakishlyaskew with that reasoning how would a poor person laugh?

[@Ample17]

You Sir, you stole my comment from my head! I just wanted to write that 😂 But it's okay.

[@liferethought]

Fantastic interview. Kimbal is insightful, humble, and real. Thanks Lex.

[@Kube_Dog]

He seems like a butthurt weasel.

[@mellow_frequencies]

Love what kind of energy Kimbal brings out in Lex. I think it’s pretty underestimated from the outside what role Kimbal has played in Tesla and SpaceX’s successes, he looks like a guy who can really lift a team up. Thanks for the conversation 🙏🏻

[@barbarabenedict6760]

I love learning about Kimbal. I thinks he's a beautiful man, a deeply loving brother, and very generous human, among so many additional wonderful things! He earned every bit of his success. If you think his road has been easy, then you don't know enough about him. So happy to enjoy this latest podcast! ✨💕✨💕✨💕

[@Crypdography]

If you love learning about him your going to love learning about his ties to jeffrey epstein

[@adamannala5498]

Lex is the best interviewer in America.

[@kimfreesland2647]

A big fan of fruits and veggies! Healthy conversation that invokes your taste buds. Kimbal brings joy to your kitchen with harmonious ingredients for a healthy gut. Love this one Lex. Good stuff!

[@Muchjoy..]

Just let this play and I listen.Your words are so wise.And you have the most interesting interviews ever. Thank you.Thank you so much..❤

[@chrisandme23]

Matthew McConaughey at home:

[@Menaceblue3]

Alright alright alright!

[@user-wj9si6wu8n]

🤣🤣🤣

[@maxsmith8196]

Ok, ok, ok… 😎

[@JacksonWashburn]

No son, we have Matthew McConaughey at home

[@jacksonfolly]

Bruh!!! 💀

[@janicebourdage3567]

What a lovely human being! Thank you for this podcast.

[@kathleencole3355]

I loved this conversation. What a lovely Man . The Musk family are so easy to listen to . Very real and down to earth. Lex of course is the best interviewer. Love him .❤️

[@Crypdography]

Not sure if I would say a man with close ties to jeffrey epstein is a "lovely man" but to each their own I guess.

[@Maureen-q6w]

@@Crypdographydo you Not have any ability to add something of significance to the comments?

[@Crypdography]

@@Maureen-q6w ya that's where Google comes into play buddy.

[@Jane-yj1to]

This episode was so Joyful!

[@fromforeststories]

Visited for the first time today. Really really understand and the atmosphere of the broadcast is very good! Your bright eyes and voice are impressive. Very nice to see your channel, Lex Fridman!

[@lidijatravina7438]

Такой интересный брат у Илона МАСКА! Юность видна в любом разговоре, как будто ему всегда 20 лет.Thank you.

[@cel8557]

I love this interaction, it expresses the inner depths of of Kimball's views on his formative years. Reminds me a bit of my own childhood. ❤ This.

[@eyeofthetiger7]

Kimbal is a great guy and as perfect of a brother Elon could hope for. A fun, joyful and grounded person who's good at the simpler things of life like conversation and food.

[@cindihunter9119]

The story that Kimbal tells is haunting... I can't even fatham the terror, and fear of these kinds of experiences. 😮

[@Jon-jz8wk]

Lex your a class act! Hats of too you! I love how this interview is so real and down to earth! This is one of the things lex is amazing at, is feeding and following someones energy!

[@Nova-Rift]

Lex is a master of highlighting the most interesting aspects of his guests. Never thought I'd enjoy listening to someone talk about cooking.

[@Crypdography]

Still wish he asked him how he met jeffrey epstein and how he ended up "dating" his ex.

[@cjm21]

Because he didn't ask him about his relationship with Jeff Epstein :D

[@sara-yw6ej]

Fantastic podcast. Keep up the amazing work. ❤

[@Ghostmanriding]

Great interview. Nice guy.

[@rupertkindermann1335]

Kimbal is a wonderful person

[@jannichi6431]

Your handle photo makes us smile too😀

[@JasmeetBajwa-n5t]

This show is a lot of fun of all the lex fridman podcast I have heard. Kimbal Musk feels* very genuine.

[@LorenzoLamarche]

What a great soul and amazing interview! I wish it would have lasted longer, as I’m sure Kimbal has much more to tell us!

[@susankeith326]

This is his second video with Lex.

[@JM-vh7oc]

Thoroughly enjoyed the entire conversation! Thanks.

[@munnik_dnb]

South Africa today is a warzone and johannesburg currently has no stable electricity, as i write this, the taps have run dry and have not been running for 24hours :)

[@georgemujuru1232]

Where in Johannesburg. I'm in Johannesburg and I have water ?

[@munnik_dnb]

closer to eastgate, but if you look online people are experiencing outages for hours or days, in random places and without warning, yet the media is not making other johannesburg residents aware of this creeping problem.

[@munnik_dnb]

also please be aware that downplaying any problem we have in this country simply because you live in an area rich enough to not be affected is also a bit troublesome , only as strong as our weakest links. @@georgemujuru1232

[@blokclok]

South Afr!ca is the gu!nea p!g going back 29 years...

[@1985NEVETS]

What's going on over there? Sorry to hear that brother love from US stay vigilant.

[@P.unchme]

I really enjoyed this one. Thanks for sharing

[@marcelkernfx]

Kimbal is awesome. Love how he talks about his passion for cooking.

[@craigstewart8123]

Great interview. When it comes to his brother, I’m in both in awe of him, and at odds with him. However, with Kimbal, he’s so down to earth, humble and fun. Someone that I could easily be friends with.

[@elliek5350]

Thank you, Lex and Kimball. Another great conversation about things that matter - and very often those are quite simple things. Thank you)

[@michaelkim3432]

Wowwwww!!! Quite possibly my favorite Lex interviews ever! I really got a sense of Kimbal unlike any other interview I've heard or seen. Thanks Lex! And thanks Kimbal!

[@Gardenergal]

He was so astoundingly candid.

[@le4908]

40:05 I can't help but wonder if all of this gluten intolerance is a result of glyphosate being used as a desiccant on wheat crops shortly before harvest. If you're not going organic, white bread is probably a better choice than whole grain.

[@MattLeo-go6ul]

Not if u have celiac disease

[@lindataylor9683]

Yeah….

[@xsietube]

@@MattLeo-go6ul yea while I’m liking this interview, I think it’s irresponsible for him as a chef to be dismissive of gluten allergy as a diet choice.

[@jeezy0025]

It 100% is, from personal experience of friends family and just researching the timelines. Multiple people I know had massive issues with "gluten allergy" right at the time when the began using it as a desiccant on wheat. These things don't just appear out of nowhere. There has to be a cause and that cause has supposedly never been found, yeah right.

[@Merble]

@@xsietubeI agree and I know it's not what you meant but if words matter... you should be dismissive of allergies as a choice, because they are not a choice.

[@seanpatrickphelps]

For students that are interested in the painting business Kimbal learned from the U.S. based version is College Works Painting. Great experience for students interested in entrepreneurship or business skill development.

[@tannerhalling3100]

I had a great experience with great people here!

[@KoryFinley]

I did this internship 4 years ago! I learned a lot from that experience and met a lot of great people!

[@brettapel1827]

Loved my experience with this program! I learned more about business than any class I took in college

[@CoraWhite-le7gt]

This internship set me up for success!! I had the best experience!

[@idatong976]

Luckily, I watch this episode after dinner so I don't get hungry. Food is a powerful agent; too much or too little will make a person sick. Most importantly, love goes to the stomach. So nice to see you both laughing, it's contagious. "Life is better when you are laughing." - Bob Marley. Love this one a lot. Thanks for bringing Kimbal Musk to the spotlight with you Lex.❤

[@Angeleye500]

Cooking with Love! The food may not be perfect, but you feel it!❤

[@karencollins1095]

Food glorious food This conversation was FANTASTIC!! Thank you Les and Kimbal great podcast My husband joined to watch 👍👍💥

[@christinecalo5645]

I like the Lex’s comment about there’s something about food, evolutionary that it makes us vulnerable in a way that grounds us. There is an evolutionary aspect to why humans may feel more grounded and less stress when eating and this is due to the historical challenges of food scarcity. Back in the day, finding food was a big deal due to scarcity, so when we did find food, especially in safe places, it gave us a sense of security and comfort, lowering our stress levels. Plus, eating together as a community likely strengthened social bonds and cooperation, adding to that feeling of safety and well-being during meals. These evolutionary factors have shaped how we psychologically and physically respond to eating, helping us feel more grounded and at ease.

[@susankeith326]

I strongly agree!

[@fgabrieltomas]

Perfect compliment for brothers

[@lindataylor9683]

Absolutely!

[@AncientHistorySecrets]

Great interview, thank you 🤩 🎉

[@TechLoveMusic]

What a Wonderful person, brings quite some common feelings on quite a lot of aspects

[@TecOneself]

Ingredients are magic, cooking makes better writers too. Thanks!

[@forthepeople1664]

Love that analysis. I used to say that you could get the energy of a city just by going to a few bars in a different neighborhood in one night/day. You really can, you get a sense of whats happening that day, the collective consciousness just permeates and tells you the macroeconomics.

[@kathleenlangenbacher4407]

The pubs in Ireland were amazing, especially for a people watcher like myself. They were friendly and so unassuming with delicious simple offerings. I have never walked into a bar in NJ by myself, but would happily go into a pub in Ireland and feel welcomed and not feel compromised. Kimbal Musk was a breath of fresh air and I also love the smell of a home grown tomato or cucumber. I so enjoyed cooking for my 15 member family, but too many have died and it’s no longer a joy just cooking for me!

[@marianneosullivan7971]

Sounds like you're talking about the sense of community around meals & how it fosters connection & communication. So far as sitting in & restaurants, you can sit & relax & throw out a beam in a way & pick up what you perceive. ❤

[@GeneLake001]

Great episode. Thanks for all you do Lex.

[@svetlanaorekhova-tibbits3739]

❤I ordered the book yesterday - Amazon will deliver tonight by 10 pm. ❤ CONGRATULATIONS!!!❤

[@danielhaney9992]

Did you get it by 10PM

[@ColbyTheOrangeTabby]

Loved the interview!

[@aaronb7990]

🍑 I'm in Central California (farm country) and for me its peaches then cherries. Unless you have had truely tree ripened fruit its hard to even fathom how crazy good they can be. I have a Peach Tree that similarly to his are only really great for a week or two. The birds love them too 😂

[@RiviRrapper]

40:40 "Most of the time, it's some CRUMMY bread" loool Nice, Kimbal, I see what you did there.

[@ExecutiveZombie]

Shirley… The name of my Service Industry, Sushi Bar Bestie who comforts me when I’m sad. Service industry people are the BEST! 🥰🙏🏽

[@TheTarotDJ333]

Awesome discussion! I really enjoyed listening to Kimbal getting in deep with the positive emotional aspects of food. Food is definitely a love language and artform!✨️🌟🍽

[@velvetrealitytv]

I appreciate how Lex never mentioned the relationship of Kimbal to Elon, showing the respect and highlighting the personal accomplishment of Kimbal as a businessman.

[@celticfiddle7605]

Halfway through Kimball mentions scrambled eggs. It reminded me of 1970 when I was at a prestigious symphony camp in California for two weeks. They hired a chef who made the best scrambled eggs. How in the world did he get them to be so soft and tall and fluffy? One morning I watched him make them. If I remember right he first poured water in the huge skillet before he poured his egg mixture. Like Kimball said, this chef watched and waited and knew the exact moment when to start the dance with the eggs. Within a minute there they were, the perfect scrambled eggs!!🥚🥚🥚🥚

[@cspace1234nz]

....nice comment. Artful.

[@TherealBDL]

brb grabbing skillet

[@jannichi6431]

The hotel in Downtown Santee Fe, NM used to have the 'Crepery' run by a French women. What is it about eggs? Benedict, that may saying too much..Ha. A good Hollandaise is priceless!😋

[@13chibears]

ANOTHER BANGER!! Lex never stops GIVING

[@tommy2972]

The watering hole analogy is perfect. Sometimes differences are put aside when we perform the mandatory act of eating.

[@arranpattison5809]

Yeah, it's common ground... we all need it, most of us love it and we all do it... its like neutral ground in a battle

[@kylemartin4010]

I work in fine dining and what he says about a meal being bad, and someone being still happy, or a meal being objectively great, and a person being unhappy, speaks to the fact that you get to choose.. and restaurants are deeply psychological. Yalom, a famous psychotherapist, speaks about his garden and how people would react completely differently to it, some complementing, some denigrating, and to him it was a source of information about his clients.. The same goes in restaurants. Different people react radically differently to the same situation, and you see that it is them, not the situation, that dictates if they have a good night.

[@CrystalCloudPodcast]

My mouth is watering over peaches.

[@anniebanderet]

Kimbal has a lot of wisdom. In his own way, he’s as impressive as Elon.

[@GOD999MODE]

Life is not a competition.

[@marussametocharaki8377]

AH....LOVE IT THIS MYSTERIOUS ATMOSPHERE OF THESE EMPTY BARS!!!!!!! GREETINGS FROM GREECE GUYS!!!! LOVE YOU!!!!

[@dlerious77]

I worked in restaurants for 20 years and to this day I still eat by myself sometimes just to have some me time. Sushi especially...it's my happy place and as nice as it is to have the company of my family the solidarity of me and the food is something special

[@susankeith326]

Same for me, retired chef and restaurant owner.. At 77, I still cook for myself almost daily, though I live alone.

[@Kyzyl_Tuva]

Great interview Lex. Love you guys

[@Sotdot3]

Lex, interview Errol Musk. It would be interesting to see his perspective.

[@cjm21]

A eugenicist freak. Sure.

[@susankeith326]

He has interviewed Elon previously.

[@thekiteboatparty3568]

Wow, so amazing in just the first few min. Life changing even. Life is finite - live it!

[@mattpen7966]

Kimbals candidness about his family is refreshing

[@peekaboo6622]

Lex and Mr Kimbal, you may have heard of the following Japanese cooking lore - it came to mind as my daughter and I watched this episode: "The angrier the thought, emotion and/or intent one has while preparing wasabi, it intensifies it's spiciness/scoville." Always cook with love.

[@CP_HQ]

This family is awesome. His SquareRoot project is undervalued

[@feedingit]

Love your work, Lex. Thank you.

[@fchassismj]

one of the best podcasts

[@Hashettone]

Kimbal is a Champ 🤠

[@grzegorzkapica7930]

20:33 I did 40 day fasting with 5 days water only. I can tell you; eating food is the most pleasure a body can have. Sex is not even in the same class. We do not have the comparison on day to day basis, but once I tried to make on, the effects were amazing.

[@meg-kx1uo]

Loved it! Thank you for this interview ❤ Greetings from Poland

[@BrendaMcCarthyyy]

After so much struggles I now own a new house and my family is happy once again everything is finally falling into place!!

[@littlebrom4]

I'm 37 and have been looking for ways to be successful, please how??

[@BrendaMcCarthyyy]

Thanks to my co-worker (Alex) who suggested Ms Mary Elizabeth Webb .

[@BrendaMcCarthyyy]

She's a licensed broker in the states 🇺🇸

[@BrendaMcCarthyyy]

After I raised up to 325k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the states 🇺🇸🇺🇸 also paid for my son's surgery (Oscar). Glory to God.shalom.

[@Keke4nn]

Wow that's nice She makes you that much!! please is there a way to reach her services, I work 3 jobs and trying to pay off my debts for a while now!! Please help me.

[@SSSESESESESESESS]

I just want to say I love elon musk , I love kimbal musk and even love errol musk , such a beautiful trio of beautiful darkness

[@EmilySinka-ie2vj]

Ohhhh, loved this! Thank you ❤️ 😊 Nice to see and feel the relaxed environment that was created. Enjoy those eggs... I can almost taste them. 😋

[@JayEs31]

Your best interview ever!

[@socialmoravec]

Average.

[@nicky592]

@@socialmoravec what'd you find average about it?

[@TheXuism]

kimbal is a genuine human being.

[@divinelyshpongled]

God I can relate so much to what he says about his dad - my dad was identical.. utter train wreck. Alcohol, smoking, depression, drugs, verbal Diarrhea, constantly needing to pay attention to his "teachings" ... i learned what kind of person i didn't want ot be.

[@jannichi6431]

Post War 1&2 generational, hoping. Thanks for your post to avoid conversational domination.💪 Cycles can be difficult to break. Educating with kindness and care and love is my goal. Liked when Kimball keenly mentioned humility. 😍

[@Dragam1]

I applaud you for finding a place and existence that does not exist

[@jannichi6431]

Austin does bring together active, smart 'PROons'.

[@japorto100]

Kimbal is a humble and nice dude

[@AnthonyRBlacker]

Oh I totally agree that sometimes in life you're better asking forgiveness rather than permission. This is how most great things actually happen in my opinion.

[@B.-gb2sh]

49:53 You can not understate enough how good good scrambled eggs are. Once you taste real scrambled eggs, especially with fresh laid eggs. There are few things in this life that taste better.

[@_example]

Excellent Lex! 🤙

[@gordonfreeman2070]

Kimbal: I don't have to worry about money so I will make a book about cooking Also Kimbal: I will not go to the gym

[@teatime9923]

Please consider subtitles! Love your interviews!

[@shelaughs185]

No. I hate having to watch around the words. Just put on the closed captioning (cc) if you want to read what's being said.

[@teatime9923]

@@shelaughs185 Would love the option of closed captions...Yes, would love to have the option of closed captions. I am having trouble understanding many of his guests and call it FOMO...lol! shelaughs185, should not cause you any problems...

[@thechurchandthenations]

Lex, you blew it! (Sorry) You should have had this in a kitchen setting where Kimball cooks a meal and you sit down at a meal and continue talking.

[@judedavis92]

Great podcast! Now do Errol Musk next

[@susankeith326]

He already interviewed Elon previously.

[@JACK-OMARI]

​@@susankeith326 Errol not Elon

[@pancongomitas7815]

Love the talks. A conversation with Bukele would be interesting.

[@rudygermain4236]

Apples from Île d'Orléans, Quebec in Fall. The best apples you can get. The only time I eat apples. When you bite in one and juices spray on your friends face, that's when I LOve them.