Last of Us Season 2 Trailer Reaction

[@PatOfTheRick]

I think the idea of not getting the death until the end of the season is just insane. It’s the inciting incident of the whole story. I think they are over thinking how much they would stretch out the story. You can’t stretch out the beginning of the story because there is no story yet.

[@matthewsteinmetz729]

For television imo it'll be more effective to endear the audience to Abby over the course of the season, detail Joel and Ellie's falling out and potential reconciliation, start to paint Joel's past in a clearer light to provide context for what's to happen, THEN drop the hammer.

[@PatOfTheRick]

@@matthewsteinmetz729 I think is already a lot of flashing back and forth in the game as it is, I just don’t think they’re going to re-order the events or have Ellie and Dina get all the way to the subway section without the audience knowing why they are even there. Yes they will change it, but writers know they need to give the audience a reason to care about what’s going on. Basically my point is the guys are saying A. Joel might not die until the end of the season, or B. He does die but the audience isn’t shown it yet. So you’d have a case of having the show either spin its wheels for a whole season and basically not adapting the story, or having the audience not know why anything is happening or why is Ellie so mad all to preserve a shock that is all over the internet and has been for 4 years. So they are really overthinking this.

[@Daddysports79]

They’ll want to max out on Pedro so they’ll play with time probably and not give it us until the halfway point or something

[@SetsunaF916]

​@@matthewsteinmetz729The point of the story is not the endear the audience to Abby. That aside, people have limited schedules, budgets change, ownership changes, etc. The idea that you guys want a filler season where absolutely nothing happens until the very end is ridiculous. Not to mention, we already see plenty of scenes after the inviting incident of the game. It's happening in episode 1 or 2, whether you like it or not. The idea that they'll flash forward to Seattle, with Ellie and Dina and they're just not EVER going to talk about why they're actually there is genuinely stupid.

[@KazaHir093]

Where’s your source for this line of thinking ? They’ll kill him end of episode 2 and keep him in the whole season via flashbacks. Idk why you’re getting all hot and bothered

[@TheMarine316]

I can’t see them straying too far from the source material, here & there but for the most part it’ll stick closely like season 1 so Joel will probably be dead by the end of episode 1, it’s also rumored the first episode is 1 hour & 40 minutes so that extra time needs to be for something big.

[@jesse8737]

Dude why you ruin it for people ya fkn flop

[@dannycarmack2044]

Ellie screaming shot has got to be her getting the acid burn to cover her scar. Bet Joel is holding her down

[@pooty195]

The person holding Ellie is african-american and she's on a gurney. So unless they switch things up and have Maria help do the burn the only other thing it could be is some sort of Firefly hospital flashback

[@X5J2UY]

@@pooty195 This is probably the aftermath of THAT scene with Joel. She loses conscious, wakes up at Tommy's place (or her own), realizes what happend to Joel and completely freaks out. The black had could be Maria holding her down and trying to calm her down It seems pointless to show a scene of her acid burn.

[@MatiZ815]

She doesn't look like she's screaming from a physical pain.

[@tylerbriggs8812]

My idea is it’s a flashback to her right after when she is first bit and then brought back to the fireflies

[@yeahiguessman]

There's been a lot of complaints online about Ellie not looking older due to the fact that Bella was already a grown adult in Season 1, but I think in the current day scenes they show here that she definitely does look a bit aged up? Or the change in her appearance helps. I think the big issue is honestly that in the game everyone who's supposed to be 19 looks fucking 25. Playing the game I often forgot that most of the characters are still teenagers. I don't think Bella's build is going to impact much for me either. She does appear smaller than Ellie was in the game, but the second game is very stealthy for the most part and Ellie gets her ass beat pretty often. I think it'll work out. I just hope Abby is still jacked. I do think toning down her muscularity takes something away from her character a bit.

[@timothyinfocus]

That scene of Ellie screaming is clearly her getting the acid(or chemicals) poured on her arm to cover up the bite wound.

[@xvizion]

With the amount of shots we see that take place after Joel's death I can't see how they'd try and fit all that in towards the end of the season if they went that route. I give it 2, 3 episodes max until his death scene and then the back half ends with them reaching Seattle finally. I hope they don't try and save Joels death for too long, it's such a crucial story telling element having him die so early and adds an incredibly amount of emotional weight to everything after. TV audiences, especially HBO ones are accustomed to this stuff, infinitely more than gaming audiences and to "dumb down" the story telling would be a disservice. S2 ends when they reach Seattle S3 is a beefier season with dual perspectives of Ellie and Abby culminating in their fight at the theater S4 smaller season again is the time skip with Ellie leaving Dina and hunting Abby ending where the game ends

[@V.elociraptor]

Yeah exactly. Joel's death is one of the most impactful deaths I've ever seen in media and it's the cornerstone of the entire story. You can't undercut that by pushing it to the end of Season 2.

[@MatiZ815]

They were filming scenes with Ellie and Jesse in Seattle which looked like Day 3 but there's a chance it was Day 2. Anyway, it looks like this season goes beyond Ellie's Day 1.

[@Killerpeanut]

Honestly they would have the biggest set on them if they ended the season with the scene of Ellie and Abby coming face to face in the theater and it just cuts and goes to Abby’s backstory. It would be WILD.

[@badcrew2]

think the screaming Ellie scene is probably a PTSD scene

[@X5J2UY]

Pretty sure that's going to be Joel's death scene. She is clearly being hold down, which aligns with the original scene. They definitely changed the lighting and set though

[@hippityhoppityw]

Im thinking yeah its either her waking up in a screaming panic or some nightmare sequence

[@Spam591_]

I feel it’s either in the theatre as a PTSD response after beating the information out of Nora… Or it’s Ellie on the farm being triggered again about Joel

[@hippityhoppityw]

@@Spam591_ yeah the lighting made me think shes in that backstage area

[@pooty195]

@@Spam591_ She's on a medical gurney with multiple people around her. Only thing that makes sense to me is some sort of Firefly hospital flashback/nightmare.

[@Renoistic]

I feel the most natural way to handle the perspectives would be to switch between them throughout the episodes. It would change the flow of the story but it would probably be better for the TV format. That way they could flesh out out the Seraphites as well.

[@ninjafohhiya]

With all the footage they've shown, it just doesn't make sense for THAT moment to happen at the end of the season. So much of it is after that Joel event. Ellie and Dina wouldn't be out together out on their journey otherwise.

[@greghuang117]

I agree. There was a ton of Seattle footage shown in the trailer. I think the season’s going to end at the theatre, when we start playing as Abby full time in the game.

[@Ryuu44]

I'm 100% sure they're not going to do it with two perspective one after another. It's gonna be done more like in a traditional tv show. Think what that would mean. They need 2 years for a season. They'd have to pause the first story arc for at least 4, 5 years before going back to it. It works better in the game, because you actually play it continuedly, but even then a lot of people lost their mind about the switch.

[@StNylo]

last of us season 1 was the definition of let them cook

[@KrimsonKracker]

Getting Jeffrey Wright to come back and play Isaac in the live action version too... CHEF'S KISS. 😎

[@90stpoon]

Spoilers: The first bit of Abby's part of the game is pretty much a 3ish hour chunk where her side and world are established, that makes sense as a place to start for episode one. There's a confrontation with the Seraphites (on the horses), we meet Isaac and establish how ruthless the WLF is. Might also help to humanize Abby to see she's just using them as a means to get to Joel, which is believe was one of the factions that split off from the Fireflies?

[@Roneish1996]

In terms of when Joel will die probably the end of episode 1 or maybe part way through episode two after Joel and Tommy save Abby, then skipping ahead season 2 likely ends with the whole Jesse’s death and the Abby saying “you wasted it.” scene. Which then leads season 3 into focusing more on the Abby and serophites narrative before culminating in the end of season 3 which ends basically the same as part 2 alongside either a teaser for last of us part 3 assuming it’s not already out at this point or a collection of all the games for presumably PS6. Plus if by the time season 3 is around and part 3 isn’t out yet (because we have to assume at this point it’s on its way) they will have announced additional seasons of the show that part 3 covers. Hopefully it ends with just a trilogy I truly can’t handle a world when last of us is beaten of all its charm and used to milk money for fat cats.

[@Dark__Thoughts]

No matter how they restructure it, and if they repeat the Joel scene like in the game from Abby's perspective, but I really hope we get to see (be it this or future seasons) that same hard cut from her face crying over her dad to her face looking down onto Joel. I thought that was so well done in the game.

[@kennycooper294]

we all keep saying they will add extra stuff and thats true but that also means they could be cutting stuff. cutting a lot of fat from which section makes sense? i think some of ellies section would be cut and some of abbies section

[@GFMSancho436]

The subway scene is where you fight the scramblers hopefully that's in there

[@Aussie27Legend]

So bizarre people saying they aren't going to have joel's death until the last episode when we are literally seeing shots from the subway under the tv station like ?how do you think they got there exactly? lol

[@AJ-jx1lq]

What about telling it similar to the game? Which I think is important. Maybe season 3 is going to be an Abby heavy season where we get her perspective on a lot of things we experienced via ellie in season 2. I wonder if you could even hide the reveal of why Abby is doing it until the end?

[@AJHawke]

So unless it's just like the theme song, or only in the trailer, how would they explain Joel singing "Future Days"? In the show's universe the world ended in like 2003

[@AliB0n]

One thing they missed is the final flashback where ellie wants to try to forgive Joel is shown in the trailer. I can't see how they could have that scene this early in the story and the scene be as powerful as it was in part 2. But it has to be in this season because why would they tease a scene that's going to be in s3 on the trailer for s2???

[@Ryuu44]

It makes sense to film it now, so they could use it to mislead the audience. Remember that TLOU2's trailer had some outright doctored scenes to mislead the audience as well.

[@AliB0n]

@Ryuu44 oh yeah, filming it while they have the set for Jackson does make sense. But if that scene isn't going to be in s2 they should get minor backlash for it

[@pooty195]

Just because they showed a few seconds of the scene doesn't mean the entire thing will be in season 2

[@RuTube981]

The conversation is what’s powerful. They only show them making eye contact. Maybe that’s the extent of what you get in season 2.

[@xvizion]

In the game we get snippets of that scene early on and the full scene only at the end, so it's in line with the game.

[@briietsai1997]

maybeee they say that Joel was killed off screen and were all like huh? what? so that when we do see his death at the end, it wouldn't hit us like a big unexpected surprise but rather hit us knowing were gonna lose

[@jackscalibur]

I think Joel is going to still die early on, unless they interlace flashbacks and present day, and then at the end reveal that Joel dies. I'm not sure.

[@davids2cents594]

season 2 ends when they meet in the theater. Season 3 ends with the conclusion of the theater and season 4 the farm and California?

[@lizardxnation21jr85]

i see you deacon saint john lol

[@itz.saniibxbyy]

Pearl Jam is going making me cry so bad

[@gzzuss]

Well, Jessie got a character upgrade 😅

[@skulldi]

I think if it goes 3 seasons you don’t show the death but leave it as a cliff hanger at the end and that’s the first episode of season 3.

[@justinsnyder2846]

No shot…. They are not gonna pull a TWD Negan situation

[@DanWMiller]

I think we all know what the end of this season is lol

[@Pigeon_Patrol]

Major goosies!

[@BrienBellJTS]

I hope you guys got to listen to it again to hear the Pearl Jam throughout… 🥺

[@Ali-bv5rh]

One idea possibly. Ellie at the end looks to me if maybe she’s giving birth

[@alwaysbecrazy]

This is gonna hurt

[@rudelechture740]

after being stuck with Abby with 10 hours I went from "I hate this character" to "I ABSOULTLY understand this character and sympathies with her." If you're paying attention to the game I cannot understand how you don't. Sure as a gamer I enjoyed LoU1 more but part 2 really fleshed out the world and game. I played it part 2 earlier this year and I'm so fucking hyped for this series.

[@NiGHTS1980]

PS5 Year 5: Still no Naughty Dog.

[@jesse1086]

It's been 3 years 10 months since the ps5 launched. It's been 4 years 3 months since part 2 launched. To add perspective it was 6 years 7 months between part tlou 1 and part 2. Also rumor is naughty dog has been working on a Sci fi game and only recently started work on a tlou part 3 =/. But hopefully we see the sci fi game reveal in tbe next year

[@NiGHTS1980]

@@jesse1086 So yeah, we'll be on year 5 and there will still be no Naughty Dog. As I said. And they released Uncharted 4 and Lost Legacy inbetween TLOU games.

[@MatiZ815]

To be fair, Sucker Punch JUST announced Ghost of Yotei and Tsushima came out just a month after TLOU2. And let's remember that we were supposed to already get a new Naughty Dog game with TLOU Online but of course it got cancelled. Unfortunately this is gonna significantly increase the gap between their games.

[@ericstorm5285]

Joel is dying by the end of episode 2. EPS 3-7 will be Ellie on her search for revenge and running into the other group.

[@grn7522]

This is such obtuse speculation …Joel goes golfing half-way into Ep 2 and the episode ends with Ellie/Dina heading off to Seattle

[@Theperfectfuture9000]

Did they say spoiler warning for those who didn't play the game lol.

[@KamasamaK]

At 5:34

[@Roneish1996]

I think just like the first season they will unfortunately fail to actually earn aspects of the games story that the different medium takes away from the story. Them making Joel far less violent around Ellie and generally throughout the show made the ending not feel as earned imo, I even believe a family friend of mine who knows nothing about the game didn’t like the end of the first season and I think it was in part because of what I just said. I also think the first season was both rushed and dragged on in on moments that were original to the show and uninteresting (think all of the stuff around Henry and Sam’s previous group was a waste of screentime I did love that deaf people got some solid representation too) and I generally feel far less love for the show compared to the games. I also generally feel like Craig just makes changes to the world and it’s story without considering why those things worked in the first place and him doing that kinda takes away a lot of why the last of us story telling and world building works. I just can’t stand that the spores aren’t even a thing in the show no one is saying you have to have them always being a factor in every scene but just doing it because actors faces have to be seen is lazy film making, nothings stopping you from being able to show emotions through masks in a creative manner.

[@nerdwithoutorder]

Out when the guy said “the whistlers”

[@Cloudsheep93]

Bozo comment lol

[@nerdwithoutorder]

@@Cloudsheep93 lol stop glazing bro

[@Cloudsheep93]

@nerdwithoutorder and turning off a video because someone can't remember the name of a group of characters from a game that dropped 5 years ago is just the opposite end of the scale from glazing, hope this helps!

[@nerdwithoutorder]

@@Cloudsheep93 nah bruh that game re released last year on ps5 and this dude also acts like he knows everything from literally everything so yeah ima dawg him.

[@DavidPeveto]

I know it gets tricky considering the character vs the actor, but Bella Ramsey uses they/them pronouns. So they were acting their ass off, haha.

[@ElCriCri97]

I think Season 2 will end at "The moment" and the aftermath. Season 3 would be the journey, set up at the end of season 2. Season 4 is the prologue - time skip. There's so much they can flesh out on Abby's side, and I'm hoping they do.

[@X5J2UY]

@@ElCriCri97 that makes no sense. We literally see the take on me scene and subway encounter in the trailer. Joel's scene will definitely be at the end of episode 1, season 2

[@ElCriCri97]

@@X5J2UY yup, just watched a little more of the clip. Idk then, seems like quite the task they have on their hand to setup Part 2 and get the reaction they want.

[@SetsunaF916]

​@@ElCriCri97They'll get the reaction they want by doing it normally. I don't know why you guys are wish casting this season where absolutely nothing happens. You really want to wait until 2030 to finish this story, for some reason.

[@ElCriCri97]

@@SetsunaF916 it's coming at it from an angle of wanting more from the story and world. Part 2 as a game and it's story felt slightly rushed, and that's cause Abby was stuffed in mid way. If a well made expansion to her side can be made - awesome - more of what I want from what I like. If not then that's fine too, there's always the game one can fall back onto.

[@SamButler22]

🏌‍♀

[@BlindedMarksman]

I understand Barrett having an opinion, but man, he's distracting having those movements on camera waiting to speak. Bro, just wait till you start talking to go on camera

[@tobywilson]

How would the other hosts know he's waiting to make a point unless they can see him on the confidence monitor?

[@C-jl6uw]

100%, I get wanting to talk with your friends about cool stuff, but this is a show and he's gotta accept that he isn't on it instead of being distracting.

[@Cariotic]

He does that all the time, like you are a producer not a host on this show. So know your role, he jumps in every time he produce a show. I don’t mind if he on the desk but when he behind the scene I don’t want your opinion.

[@SamButler22]

Given everything that's going on in the world since the game came out; I wonder if they still use Neil's zionist imagery

[@C-jl6uw]

Huh?

[@qwe123303]

There is zero Zionist imagery in TLOU2. Brain broken online people are the only people that say this. If anything the themes are anti Zionist, but again there isn't a hint of Zionism.

[@tglanzer07]

the show is trash, sooo disrespectful to the games

[@Rainmanking]

You watched the whole season or just half of episode 1?

[@treeboyproductions]

Bot behavior

[@chrisbrown113096]

The show is nearly scene for scene of the game. If you’re gonna troll at least be good.

[@theghostofsparta4528]

Go watch it then come back

[@TheJosephKnight]

Go cry about black elves