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[@calebhader]

I love your videos sir. I too am a professional sharpener and I appreciate your reviews and showcasing of different types of stones. I also congratulate you on your English. It's obvious you've worked hard to learn it, and that shows a lot of respect.

[@peseguinot]

Sir, ......, better yet Master, thanks for your videos they are extremely educative and easy to follow, recently I acquire the 800 /4000 waterstone combination and a strop leather (white paste). After seeing your video several times and a little practice I have achieved an amazing improvement sharpening my knives, just thanks for your lecture. My respect to you Master.

[@slooshark1]

I love watching you sharpen knives. I could watch for hours. It’s hypnotic.

[@LivingInExile]

Arigatou gozaimasu. I learned more about using my waterstones in this video than all of the other reading I have done. Thanks you again.

[@rx4pain2]

I think this stone, along with a DLT strop and Bark River black and white compound is where I will begin my free hand sharpening. Thank you very much for your educational and enjoyable videos. As for cabernets, just about anything from any country, vintage 2009 has been excellent in my experience.

[@insanekamkze86]

great video probably the best one ive seen on sharpening knives and water stones. i am researching to either buy this type of stone by king or the Naniwa stones instead. i like the traditional water stones the best oil stones messy. thank you for this insightful video.

[@Odin50Cal]

This guy is awesome. That mirror finish on the edge was beautiful! I plan to get a 1000/6000 combination stone soon, but I will have to wait for a strop. Thank you very much for this well thought, and well put together tutorial/demonstration.

[@jawadibrahim2367]

I recommend the king 1000/6000 combination stone. it works great!!

[@Synthwave89]

Just bought a king 1000/6000. I will be using it to sharpen the kitchen knives and to practice on them. I have Shaptons but I will use those only for my personal knives.

[@karlverhelst]

if you want the absolute best finish on a straight bevel edge, you might consider buying the Naniwa Chosera 10K waterstone. It's pricey, but considered to be the highest quality waterstone on the market. Great video as always. Greetings

[@TopoftheLineTraining]

I really enjoy your videos...and you inspired me to buy Japanese stones and start using them.........

[@vasilisvasiliou967]

hi.I wanted to tell you that you are a knife man and that you enjoy it so much.i like knifes too.i relax when I watch your videos and learn a lot.thanks.

[@iaxable]

What an interesting small hatchet! Very easy to carry, just like a knife

[@fatbob1950]

Excellent stone...how long do you soak the stone before sharpening with them?

[@Tomadair1]

Thank you sir for this masterful lesson,very much appreciated .Your videos as many have said before me are simply the best in their field.

[@PainSorrowFury]

Hi, what do you think of the kanetsune and tojiro stones? I have a couple and find them very nice.

[@virtuovice]

I mainly use Chosera stones. Their 800, 2000, 3000 stones are pretty hard and I have never needed to flatten them. I use Naniwa large flattening stone to my Shapton 120, Naniwa Super 220, and Chosera 400 stones. Thanks.

[@PBWillyWonka]

i just ordered some stones from japan :) cant wait to start sharpening my knives and razor blade. started with 1000 and 3000 for now...s ready too green,black,white and red..

[@virtuovice]

I use Chosera 3000 stone and Bark River white compound for my Scandi edges. If you need the keenest razor edge, this pair makes it. Thanks.

[@havoc6g]

From the introduction, you demonstrate a rusty edge. What conclusion should the viewer conclude? Does the convex edge, polished edge prevent rust formation? I must say that for a long time I was never able to produce a truly sharp knife edge. This was very frustrating, the edge angles and the edge refinement were never scary sharp. Now I have adopted your convex edge approach and in particular the stropping technique was nothing short of enlightening. Now my knife edges are sharp and my t

[@test18258]

I use a course diamond stone and then ceramics to sharpen my knives, but these videos have made me curious to try out some japanese water stones.

[@virtuovice]

@PainSorrowFury I don't see Kanetsune or Tojiro stones in Japanese market. But as far as seeing their combination stones on the web, they look very similar to Naniwa stone. I have a Naniwa #3000 stone and it serves me a lot. Thanks.

[@virtuovice]

@theyash06 I honestly recommend Chosera #400 and #1000 stones, and DLT two sided leather strop and Enkay green compound and Bark River white compound. KaBar military knives have 40 degree angle inclusive and you will need to lessen it to 35 degrees in my experience. My short KaBar has a zero grind 30 degree Scandi edge. I don't think you will need such an extensive edge reprofiling. Chosera #400 stone reprofiles its edge angle very fast. Thanks.

[@jualmad21]

1. When you made your strop did you use the rough or smooth side of the leather? 2.For re-profiling a V edge into a convex edge for a small utility non-folding knife would you start with the 800 grit or something coarser? Thanks

[@SkullLanyard]

Excellent edge work on the beautiful Orange rat1.

[@sparkplug2090]

Thanks for sharing you time and knowledge on knives, stones and general hunting info. I find it really informative. What type of ceramic stone brand would be a good one to start with that is not bonded. I'm looking for less expensive than chosera or shapton. Thank again

[@virtuovice]

@ryanrrx I always get rid of micro chips with black compound loaded leather when the edge is convex. It's awesome as you say. But when it is a V edge, a black compound will deepen the edge angle. If I needed a V edge again even after chipped, I would need a #220 stone. It will be much tougher than stropping. So every single my outdoor knife is convexed except for this knife. I just wanted to leave a water stone V edge sharpening tutorial of my way on my channel with this knife. Thank you!

[@virtuovice]

I now have Chosera #400, #800, and #2000 stones. When I don't need to change the edge angle or restore nicks, I skip the #400 stone. But I always use the #2000 stone to achieve the finer finish. My #800 stone leaves a toothy edge. And the #2000 stone polishes it off. And finally I use Bark River white compound loaded leather to make a razor sharp edge. But I guess you can go to the strop from your #1000 stone. It will just need you a bit longer time for stropping. You absolutely don't need #8K.

[@Stargazer80able]

I too love the green carbide stone when it is new.... Not so much when used a lot.

[@snizzle515151]

I saw your older hollowed stone, do you now use something like a diamond stone to flatten your stones after use to stop them hollowing out? might save you some money especially on your higher grit more expensive stones, great video by the way :D

[@pythagoreios07]

all of your videos are excellent mate!!! hey from Greece!!!

[@MrMacPhisto2000]

I've been looking for a decent whetstone for general knife sharpening would you suggest the King KG-65P? I see a KG-65 on amazon for 28.50 is that the same stone as the KG-65P?

[@virtuovice]

I now use only DLT Two Sided Paddle Strop and Bark River black and white compounds.

[@virtuovice]

@insanekamkze86 I don't use this stone now because it was a slow cutter. Instead I now use Naniwa Chosera #400, #800, and #2000 stones. They cut very fast. Thanks.

[@dchristopher3]

You are an excellent teacher. Thank you.

[@fredde90210]

I got a few King stones 1000/4000/6000...do you think I need more stones?

[@lasomil]

Thank you for a very good lesson. I have already watched some of your videos and I believe that your camera is more sharp than your knives all together ;-) Best regards!

[@virtuovice]

@alwagp Rockstead brand is not popular in Japan. I have never seen it is selling in Japanese market. They are only available from their website and extraordinarily pricey in Japan too. Thanks.

[@huntergreen99]

I have question please.. How long did you spend time for sharpening this ? And also where can I get that strop and whatever u applied to it ? Thank you very much.

[@UdNeedaMiracle]

I just bought a DMT Coarse diamond stone (320 grit I think), a King 1000 grit, and a king 6000 grit, as well as a knives plus strop block. I've been trying to sharpen some of my cheaper knives lately, which are also very dull. I do my best to keep a consistent angle, and I feel like I do a pretty good job of that. I work each side of the blade until I feel an even burr on the other side and then switch sides. When I feel the burr is there on the second side I go to the next stone, and of course I finish with the strop. Some of these knives I've spent 2-3 hours on over the last few days, and they are nowhere close to what I'd call sharp. They are nicely polished, but not mirror polished, and they are definitely not sharp enough to shave arm hair. They barely cut paper smoothly. Any advice?

[@drivingmuffin]

UdNeedaMiracle Just keep practising at getting your angles consistent, that is the key. You can try to use different sharpening techniques too. Also, remember to use very light strokes on your last passes on each stone you are finishing on, that tends to help a lot. And when you are sharpening, it is better to go too low and hit the shoulder of the edge, instead of going too high and destroying the apex of the edge :-)

[@virtuovice]

@jdg2001 I used an artificial nagura came with King #8000 from the company for King #6000. Then it did nothing but making the sharpening feel smoother. Artificial Nagura will not comprise good abrasives. Natural Nagura can be different. But every grit of Chosera stones makes very good slurry from itself and the stone itself takes an edge very well and it is no slippery. Its sharpening feel is very different from Kings. I now use no King stones. Thanks.

[@peteswright]

Hi. Can you help please. Bought KW65 1000/6000. Some say only soak 1000 side for 3min to 12 hours!!!!!!!!!! only sprinkle 6000 side. I cant read the Japanese instructions and don't want to use it until I know correct soaking time/times. What do you suggest please. I value your opinions. Thanks for any help.

[@mvrdamonxy7942]

pete wright 3 mins on brown side splash and go on white side if you soak for 12 hrs you will perm soak the stone and you will get nothing from it ever again those king stone not meant to be soaked like other stones.

[@ActionHero29]

Thank you I love your sharpening videos :)

[@swapnilmule3922]

I love your English Sir👌👌👌👌👌

[@virtuovice]

4000 and 6000 seem too fine to me. I would strop with the white compound loaded leather instead. Anyway the factory made secondary V edge regularly has 30 degree angle. So if your sharpening angle was a bit smaller than 15 degrees per side, you would just grind the shoulder with the 1000. If the initial stone is 400 or 600, it will grind off the shoulder to reach the edge line. If the starting stone is still the 1000, your sharpening angle should be a bit larger than the factory angle. Thanks.

[@TheEnglishRedneck45]

I too had rust spots develop on AUS 8 - but that was in the post on the way to me! Talking just a day in the post, and the blade had rusted. It was bead blasted, which does not help in rust prevention, but AUS 8 no longer features in my knives. For me, 8Cr13MoV is a far better low end steel, at a similar price point.

[@virtuovice]

@gotcalves ZDP-189 was very hard to strop off its micro chips with a black compound loaded leather. Japanese super blue paper steel was too. D2 was not so strop resistant. Thanks.

[@JWtopman]

Virtuovice thank you! Muito Obrigado! Regards Wilson

[@nikfish1]

I have a question, if I have a very very dull knife, is 800 grit too high to start on? Should I buy a 240 grit stone in addition? Thank you.

[@VampyrDjevelDeity]

If it's as dull as I'm thinking, yes, 800 might be a little high. I like DMT plates for heavier material removal, but that's me. I'm confident you should do good with a 240 grit stone.

[@virtuovice]

King stones cut very slow while Chosera and Shapton stones cut very fast. I love Shapton Ha-no-kuromaku (Pro) 1000 grit stone the best to sharpen a very dull knife. Thanks.

[@caiorodrigues389]

Hi how are you? My name is Caio... I'm from Brazil, i like very very much yours videos! Congratulations.

[@johns311]

I love your videos. I have learned so much from you.

[@virtuovice]

1. rough side 2. I start with 240 grit. If you are not used to doing it, 320 or 400 grit will be better since higher grits grind slow. Anyway 800 grit is too fine to start with. Thanks.

[@virtuovice]

This is an old video of my sharpening. I now have Chosera 400, 800, 2000, 3000 sequence. Stropping makes the edge twice or more sharper than the final stone. When I need a convex edge to a regular steel like A2, I don't use the 3000 stone but Bark River black compound. When I need a Scandi or V edge, or in case the steel is very hard like 3V, I use 3000 stone and directly go to Bark River white compound. DLT Two Sided Paddle Strop cannot be defeated by others. Please go to DLT Trading. Thanks.

[@ChumpyChicken2]

virtuovice what is the writing on the cloth under the stone say?

[@virtuovice]

@havoc6g King produces a solid #800 stone. But it doesn't produce a solid #4000 stone. The #4000 stone on this combination stone has rougher and softer surface than my Naniwa #3000 stone unexpectedly. But the sharpened edge was sharper than Naniwa #3000 stone. King makes #6000 and #8000 and I have the both. But the sharpened edge is no sharper than Naniwa #3000. So I like King #4000 stone on this combo very much to make a new V edge. The stone seems relatively easy to wear though. Thank you!

[@ABen-wk4uj]

That is beautiful. Great video. Great sharpening skills.

[@virtuovice]

@practicalbeing If you use the stone for V edge sharpening, I will recommend you King #800 / #4000 combination stone. If you use the stone for the initial edge reprofiling and then go for black compound stropping, I will recommend you King #220 / #800 combination stone. Each is selling for $40 at Japan Woodworker. You will never need #6000 or more grit. They are very difficult to use. Thanks.

[@huntergreen99]

You are very good btw, I enjoy watching you sharpen and hope to,see more. Thanks for,sharing. I am new subscriber. Mark in Ky.

[@CrisGar76]

Buen video como siempre, saludos

[@marioz8132]

Hi I have a 60 hrc knife do you think that this is suitable for me?

[@virtuovice]

I don't think so. You need Chosera or Shapton stones.

[@MrRourk]

My current set up is King 300, King 800 Deluxe, Suehiro Ouka 3k, and Rozsutec Natural Stone

[@snizzle515151]

:D cool, thanks again for the video, im taking your techniques and using them for my chisel sharpening, the process is a little different but still :D

[@matheusspecht6010]

HELLO PLEASE HELP ;I WANT TO SHART MY SILKY NATA 240mm SINGLE EDGE ; WITCH STONE WILL BE THE BEST FOR THAT ? THANKS

[@daryooshfatemi]

I got Kasumi Japanese water-stones today. 400/1000 and a 6000. Not used yet.

[@virtuovice]

@dragonballgt1106 70mm wide stone is better. But this 60mm stone can do. Thanks.

[@danzigrulze5211]

I have all Kingstones for sharpening all my knifes and tools as well and once you get your technique right you can sharpen anything to any grind wist the highest polished edge you can make.

[@randy1ization]

does the 4000 do any sharpening or is is for shine?

[@virtuovice]

The 4000 sharpens the apex and polishes the bevel. I don't sharpen knives like this video any more but like the following video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWXScmahequAgdE

[@MrTumhahaha]

beween stone sharpening Vs Paper sharpening . What 's better? ;-)

[@The_Riddler21]

A question, i have a Kai-Shun stone #300/1000 and a #6000, so the question is.... is that a good base or do i need more stones or any kinda other tips you have ? THX :)

[@virtuovice]

I don't think Kai stone is a ceramic stone but a bonded stone. Quality ceramic stones like Chosera or Shapton are by far harder and cut by far faster than regular bonded stones. Currently I love Chosera 400, Shapton 1000, Shapton 2000, Chosera 3000, Shapton 5000 for all my sharpening needs. Thanks.

[@The_Riddler21]

virtuovice Thanks for your help !!!

[@SNAFU111999]

very good demonstration

[@TacticalTimmy12]

Does the King stone need to be lapped before use?

[@virtuovice]

TacticalTimmy12 I currently do lapping/flattening every after use. So all of my stones are flat before use. King stones will take dishing relatively easily. So early lapping is easier and recommended. Thanks.

[@MasterofPlay7]

+virtuovice why do you need king stone while you have shapton and naniwa. did you buy it out of novelty or curiosity?

[@MasterofPlay7]

***** and then he bought the king stones again? It doesn't make sense lol

[@MasterofPlay7]

***** and then he bought the New King combo stone again, this was made after he got the shapton and naiwa

[@virtuovice]

@gravediggermax I don't use this stone now. It was a money saving stone but cut slow. So I invested money and got Naniwa Chosera stones which cut extremely fast and made me a good knife sharpener. Stones are much more important than the technique. So I recommend you 3 Chosera stone set of #400, #1000, #3000. They are selling at toolsforworkingwood (.com). Thanks.

[@Obsidian1022]

Man I would love one of those hatchets

[@huntergreen99]

Why do you not lap that stone that has dishing on you now ?

[@marioz8132]

How much time it takes to sharp a knife with this stone?

[@mky3039]

Not very long in my experience, but it obviously depends on the steel.

[@marioz8132]

@@mky3039 hi friend I have a 60 hrc knife do you think that this stone is suitable for me?

[@mky3039]

@@marioz8132 It'll work fine

[@GiorgiKhabeishvili]

Hello sir. I have the same brand of stones, but 1000/6000. It came with instructions in Japanese so I don't know if I should soak them. Do you soak them, and if you do, for how long? Thank you very much in advance.

[@virtuovice]

You should soak King stones around 10 minutes before use until it doesn't absorb water any more. It does't crack by being soaked different from ceramic stones. Thanks.

[@GiorgiKhabeishvili]

ok got it. thank you very much!

[@bushcraftbeats4556]

While I'm not Japanese, I use the King 800/4000, and I would recommend 30-40 minutes, not just 10. I tried shorter soak times, and the stones did not cut well. I've found at the 30-40 minute range the stones are ideal and work VERY well. Test for yourself. Do a sharpening with a 10 minute soak, then on another day after the stones have completely dried, do a 30-40 minute soak, see which one works best. I definitely would not suggest really long soaks or permasoaking the King 800/4000, and I'd imagine other King stones. I accidentally did and the 800 got very soft/muddy. I wish you the best!

[@budaflash]

What kind of strop did you use at the end?

[@virtuovice]

DLT Two Sided Paddle Strop XL.

[@budaflash]

thanks!

[@bluetoad2001]

AUS8 is very good inexpensive steel. i like it on pocket knives (slip joints).

[@sebenzalover]

maybe its because its a factory edge it had left over residue from the grinding process.

[@MasterofPlay7]

can't you u get a exchange or refund from the store because the corner got fractured?

[@lordshin73]

do you know the difference between a king s1 6000 grit vs a king s3 6000 grit?

[@virtuovice]

Maybe "s" is size, s1 is 210×73×22, s2 is 190×70×20, s3 is 185×62×15. Anyway King's 6.000 cuts even slower than Shapton 5.000 and seems almost useless to me. Thanks.

[@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929]

When you say the king 6000 seems almost useless to you. Do you mean its a bad 6000 grit stone? Or that its useless meaning that you yourself have no use for it because of the other stones that you have? thanks!

[@virtuovice]

I have ever experienced the King 6000 stone. It cuts extremely slow in comparison to the quality stones like Chosera or Shapton. The King 6000 will need you 5 times longer period of time to make even worse finish.

[@gravediggermaxvabeachva]

@virtuovice .....good info....i will research and try and find thanks

[@BIGBEASTYBURGER]

reason for rust spots, (maybe and no offense) it was made from a cheap produced steel, the most durable steel comes from america (really not trying to brag) as it is produced in the idea of quality>quantity

[@justindavis3761]

I would love to send you one of my knives and get you opinion. I make knives from Hitachi Aogami number 2. They are hunting knives.

[@ogostaboy]

I use stones from 140# to 5000# for re profiling and sharpening.Virtuovice is good but if you are a beginner don't copy his system because you may eat up the steel off your blade .From the video his angle is not obvious.

[@virtuovice]

@fatbob1950 Around 3 minutes, and then tiny bubbles from the stone stop. Thanks.

[@huntergreen99]

What city are you in ?

[@Latviansoldier]

nice video bro .

[@JGrant_7217]

That Hatchet is wicked by who is it made?

[@JGrant_7217]

Justin Grant Never mind I figured it out in case your as daft as me a link is in the description just do some searching on the site I guarantee you'll like all you come across.

[@lz_377]

The KW-65 in America is advertised as 1k/6k.

[@randy1ization]

great video. DOMO ARIGASTO.!!!

[@くん善]

キングのセラミック砥石かな？使用経験は何回かあります。自分はシャプトンのM24を使ってますが、1000番は研磨力凄くないですか？本当は荒砥石ぐらいと思いますが。2000番はしっかり刃を付けてくれます。5000番は目詰まりがアホみたいに起きるので名倉の天上を使ってます。名倉を使うと角がある研ぎ汁がすっかり丸くなります。 そしてDLTの革砥とバークリバーのホワイトコンパウンドで完璧に刃を仕上げることが出来ます。ホワイトコンパウンドはストロップしてる時に研磨粒子が砕けて最終的に12000番になるそうです。長文失礼しました

[@virtuovice]

私もシャプトンの1000番を愛用しています。バークリバーの３V鋼製のナイフのマイクロベベルをちょうどいい具合に落としてくれます。チョーセラの600番と800番の中間くらいの印象です。またお願いします。

[@SuperEpicsk8ter]

Omg I wanna know Japanese so badly

[@jawadibrahim2367]

that is weird. every time I see a king combination stones I find chipping in the corner

[@huntergreen99]

Thank you. Is that DLT Trading dot com ?

[@Relic67]

thank you

[@Anonymous5211987]

oh my GOD! I think I could listen to you read the phone book!

[@MrJonfury]

Domo arigato gozaimasu, mata oai shimasho.

[@virtuovice]

Yes.

[@virtuovice]

@theyash06 I know a Japanese shop which ship Chosera stones internationally by EMS. I let you know the link by PM.

[@virtuovice]

I am in Sapporo city.

[@havoc6g]

The conclusion is that the combo water stone is superior leaves me somewhat unsatisfied. I

[@jonsutton1986]

it is, what it is

[@MadBadVoodo]

★★★★★