Off the Grid - The Game People Say is "Taking Over"

[@kirareacts]

Sorry the video is a day late, but my first 3 days of gameplay was all scuffed with quality, so I had to change all my OBS settings and re-record some stuff yesterday and today. I'm still playing the game...It's good. As for people that will comment on the "weird filter" on the camera, as explained in the previous video, it's the reflection of a teleprompter. Unfortunately the one I bought won't let me adjust the screen brightness, so it has a weird reflection/haze in the center of the focus. This will be fixed going forward, but this video was recorded before I fixed it. Should be better next time hopefully. Enjoy!

[@LautaroQ2812]

Maybe you just need 1 or 2 lights and that's it

[@kirareacts]

I'll not be adding lights to my setup. Any lights in my periphery for the hours I usually work, wind up giving me a headache. Recording with super bright lights in my face is an absolute nightmare, not just that but the studio lights you typically use for recording make the room you're in an absolute furnace. Just not something I'll be doing. The only reason there's any light in the room at all, is because it's an absolute minimum requirement to see my face on camera. When I'm not recording I literally sit in the dark.

[@Lenariet]

It doesn't look like the worst ever, it's what I commented when BigFry absolutely thrashed some trailer of it. They DMCAed him or threatened legal action when he found out (by afaik merely using public data) the game was gonna use crypto/blockchain and when the devs themselves clearly weren't willing to be too transparent with that fact yet. This shoddy behaviour of them plus the fact of NFTs being there will absolutely not make me ever play this. But maybe many others will soon forget and forgive - if they even knew or cared to begin with. Wouldn't be the first time, gamers can be very fickle and inconsequential.

[@Lenariet]

So, 2/3 through the video and unless I'm hearing wrong here with one ear while doing chores they are still fairly hush hush about this game being tied to crypto/blockchain. Careful they don't DMCA you too for disclosing that unpleasant information. They must really know about the unpopularity of NFTs in gaming or else they wouldn't be hiding this like that.

[@kirareacts]

You're hearing wrong. They're not hush hush at all. They're also not hiding it, you might be reading way too much into an analogy I used and not understanding the context. They're not going to DMCA me lmao.

[@juances]

Making a successful videogame vs making a successful onboarding platform to get people into crypto are two separate things, you can succeed one and fail the other. And that's the lesson that crypto developers need to learn, they could make the best videogame ever but even that won't really cause a revolution. People will just play the game and ignore the crypto side of it. You can't convert gamers into crypto enthusiasts like some age of empires monk.

[@Zantonny]

Wololo

[@TomJakobW]

@@Zantonny no, No!….Must… buy… shitcoin… Must… resist…!

[@goshdarntootin]

@@Zantonny Wololo

[@Lenariet]

If they actually can ignore the crypto side of it? Feels as if it can heavily dictate how everything else in the game feels. Even the best F2P games can have that feeling. In PSO2 for example there is an at first glance needless amount of repetitive quests and a needlessly restrictive, short quest log. But it's actually very deliberately designed that way to incentivize the purchase of convenience, in this case a larger questlog. People have also been complaining about ESO monetizing that seperate crafting material inventory. If you don't have that you will constantly see your inventory bursting with materials, forcing you to either abandon a lot of them while out adventuring or returning into city often. This stuff can have quite a big impact on the practical gameplay experience. Some of this baked so deeply into the core design and gameplay loop of some games that it can be impossible to ignore. This is the fundamental problem with F2P/MTX and NFTs too that some people don't understand. It's really not as simple as some believe. You can have the greatest game ever but the moment it decides to add any of this it can instantly start to feel "off". So those who constantly, out of principle, complain about F2P/MTX or NFTs/crypto/blockchain have very legit reasons to do so. This stuff just can be super invasive to every other aspect of a game.

[@Zack_Wester]

I mean if this was something like Ubisoft then it could in theory hold up a bit better. but then Ubisoft had that Ubicoin or what it was 2011 (remmber getting ubicoin/rewards for archivments and what not in Anno2070 and then I used the points or what it now was to unlock castle pieces in The Settlers 7 (I think). but that only reqired a ubisoft account. and I have a problem whit seeing how for example having stuff in the Division/ghost recon can work correctly in let say assisense greed. I mean we all remmber when Bioware did a cross thing between Dragon age 1 and Mass effect. and that was a costum piece of I think armor. so if you owned both or what the requirment was then in Mass effect you find a suit of mass effect armor whit a Dragon age theme to it. same in Dragon age (you did not get a 21XX space suit for Thedas no you got a piece of fantasy medival plate armor whit a mass effect theme to it. and that was custom made to try and fit (the judgment is up on how well that crossover worked). but that was just two game by the same dev and manually made. Im just imedeging how they will have stuff like Minecraft, Mass effect, AnnoXXXX, COD and so on be cross platform in a way that make sense. and remember I hate when Korean game that been ported over to the west (set in a fantasy world) have the us 4th of Juli independence day celebration whit US stars and stripes hat and what not. World of warcraft dont have the 4th of julie they do have there version of Crissmass, the new lunar celibration(chinese new year) and so on but that requires a lot of work and is fine tuned for that game, Like blizzard can´t just port there wow New lunar festival and just slap it in Diablo or any other game they have (it will not just work).

[@TheKillianKanVT]

Game is popular today. And then it won't be tomorrow. It's always like that. Probably get somewhat of a playerbase that will dissipate. And then crypto greed will probably rear it's head and normal people will abandon.

[@jodocasts]

Kira has now tasted the power of web3 and has become: Dark Kira.

[@Tnargav]

We've tested it for years now with scam. This is not a new venture.

[@Baldthazar]

They paid massive sponsorship deals for content creators to play their game, which has artificially inflated Off the Grid's initial success. I don't think a fairly mediocre battle royale game is going to hold anyone's attention for long, the only thing particularly exceptional about this crypto game seems to be that it's mildly playable. Unless anti-cheat measures significantly improve, I don't think crypto currencies or NFT's have any place in gaming. There are fundamental problems involved with mixing the two that can never fully be addressed, and I think the hatred for crypto games and the reluctance that players have with getting involved is completely justified.

[@aquaphobic6012]

Blink twice if they have you hostage.

[@kirareacts]

?

[@aquaphobic6012]

@@kirareacts Just a joke about crypto games. Keep up the good work!!

[@thatonebritishidiot3037]

@@kirareacts remember your video about thomas?

[@kirareacts]

Who is thomas?

[@StunnyBruh]

​@kirareacts Oh no... did the Fntastic brothers find you Kira? Should we call the SAS?!

[@KonaSuba]

Never heard of it

[@hjelpen5387]

now you have, so their marketing seems to work as they get people to talk about it

[@davidm02]

It just came out a week ago

[@laz0rbra1n]

because it's not released yet, it's early access

[@honeybadger6275]

@@hjelpen5387 oh it isn't out yet, should be interesting to see what the in game economy looks like a few months after it releases when they bring out all the predatory monetization

[@ogcipher4967]

Jesus Christ every time I open a Kira video he looks like a totally different person, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

[@SOFFtv]

Lets be honest, crypto in gaming won’t take off or have the negative mindset surrounding it change until COD and/or GTA has it. Which i hope doesn’t happen.

[@Rezuvious]

Considering how much money GTA made with MTX I wouldn't be surprised if they tried it.

[@rocketbilly]

And its only so long before the supposed "hidden" crypto element of it becomes full frontal. It's also got atrocious trouble with cheaters already lol.

[@Valkirth]

tbh If rockstar could make a fortune with crypto and get away with it they would jump at the chance without a doubt.

[@rocketbilly]

@@Valkirth eh I don't think they would risk money like that. If it's not shark cards it's a gamble lmfao

[@endlessstrata6988]

@@xLionsxxSmithyx I'm already not getting GTA6.

[@lucasLSD]

Like another person said, games already have cheaters without a financial gain, I can only imagine how bad it would get here, probably akin to GunZ The Duel.

[@Pachitaro]

24:25 1000% 🗿 The goal of games is to be good. Everything else is secondary

[@nicknevco215]

The large AD# is missing

[@Oktokolo]

Nah, blockchain is no benefit here. You don't need a ledger for skins. Just have the game ship with a public key for verifying signed certificates of ownership. When an account buys or loots a skin, they get a certificate of ownership and other game clients will only show the skin when the signed data matches the nick. Or just sell the game and let people host their own servers and mod their own skins without stupid DRM restrictions which are just there to make micro transactions a working monetization scheme.

[@kirareacts]

And how does the developer make money?

[@xenn4985]

​@@xLionsxxSmithyx you mean that thing we all universally agreed was bad?

[@Oktokolo]

@@kirareacts By selling the game and/or the certificates.

[@kirareacts]

Most games like this are F2P, because their competition is F2P. What is a certificate?

[@Oktokolo]

@@kirareacts A certificate would be a piece of data signed by the official seller of a cosmetic. It's signature would allow other game clients to verify that that account indeed has bought the cosmetic - and then they show it. The whole point of the signature and the public key to verify is that the seller doesn't need to store data about the sale. The client of the buyer has the data and gives it to the server who gives it to the other player's clients. Because the signature is verified by all other clients, there is no way to cheat yourself a cosmetic.

[@WhichDoctor1]

im disappointed there was no mention of the rampant cheating that's already ruining the game experience and the difficulties of combating cheating with NFTs. If a cheater extracts a bunch of high level items in a normal extraction shooter when their cheating is identified, all that gear can be removed from their account or they lose access to those items when their account is suspended. Which reduces the incentive for cheaters to short term advantages. When those extracted items are NFTs then cheaters cant have the proceeds of cheating removed from them and they can still sell those for real money even if their account is banned, which is such a huge incentive it makes cheating an inevitable plague

[@kyosokutai]

You lost me at "crypto".

[@remusracingro3884]

Same.

[@brycedaugherty9211]

I think Kira is right that there may one day be a good game that properly implements crypto without it being a big problem. Perhaps even a way that crypto enhances the game instead of hindering. All that being said I don't think we've found it yet. But I'm not going to bail just because I hear one word.

[@SamahLama]

I never played a crypto game but the word wouldn’t turn me off if it doesn’t require me to spend money or if it works similar to normal MTX

[@xo4535]

fr You put crypto or nfts in your game you and it can go fuck yourselves

[@naajilyons2872]

Being closed minded isn't the flex you think it is.

[@Just_Anzio]

In the end, it's either the grifter, the cheater, the whaler, or the die-hard that'll stay, I assume...

[@Lenariet]

19:11-19:32 But we don't own anything either way...? The Off the Grid devs could ban you right now, what are you gonna do with those NFTs then? They only work in the game they were made for, they will have most if not all of their value in that game only. Blockchains as far as I know don't store the game assets themselves. It's still all stored on the servers of the developer? How is that owning? Have I missed something? Gonna finish watching and may edit this comment.

[@kirareacts]

Sell them.

[@Lenariet]

​​@@kirareactsIf you can still do it after a ban? But as soon as the developer says bye bye and the game shuts down I assume nobody is gonna want to buy them off of you any longer.

[@kirareacts]

Different question entirely. But you can't do anything with them in a shutdown game in any other circumstance, so you're not any worse off, are you? So it's not really something that matters, as it doesn't detract from other useful aspects of the ownership. And no, a developer game banning you doesn't mean your nfts suddenly vanish. Entirely different things. What they would need to do would be against the idea of decentralization by having the ability to reverse transactions and some form of blacklisting of your wallet or the specific NFTs. Which isn't impossible, just unlikely.

[@Lenariet]

​​@@kirareactsIt's just that crypto bros love that fantasy of interoperability of game assets. I've heard them many enough times peddle the idea of you allegedly truly owning stuff in the sense of "no matter where the game or developer goes" and that with NFTs one day all it would took were the press of one button and poof your gun from Call of Duty would instantly appear in Stardew Valley. But since most if not all of the game assets are always stored on a conventional, dev-hosted database this is just objectively false and either a deliberate lie by these crypto bros or it's proof of their own inexperience with the technology or with how game dssign and the games industry works. I was basically trying to say to be careful with notions of ownership. Plenty of people can easily misunderstand this or crypto bros can feel falsely confirmed in their lies/naive fantasies. Just look at how people currently seem to be genuinely surprised by news that they never truly owned anything on Steam but only acquired licenses. Some of us have known and been saying this for decades. People can be super stupid or ignorant, and in a space like crypto where many scammers take advantage of this details like the ones regarding ownership can maybe make a difference.

[@kirareacts]

I'm aware of what people say, and more aware of what I say. I'm careful enough and have a good enough understanding of the situation I think. People will understand or misunderstand what they want to. I've been pretty clear.

[@vajaspiritos744]

I constantly see the ad for this game on Facebook. That is already a reason for me not to even touch this game.

[@maskettaman1488]

Because they advertise?

[@piscye1806]

Most facebook advertisements are garbage ​@maskettaman1488

[@MuShinnen]

@@vajaspiritos744 Mate you gotta get off Facebook. That place is a travesty.

[@duntemdraws310]

@@maskettaman1488If I’m not already playing/interested in a game: the more ads I see the more I hate it and never want to touch it.

[@maskettaman1488]

@@duntemdraws310 You have issues then

[@TheCrappyPhilosopher]

If you own the receipt to an asset in one game, and that game goes belly up, you still have the receipt, but the receipt becomes useless. I don't see how that's a boon for digital ownership.

[@kirareacts]

That isn't the boon. It's something people say all the time in counter, but I'm unsure why. You don't keep the stuff in any other game that goes belly up, so you're no worse off in that regard. The benefits are when the game isn't belly up, but you stop playing it or just want to offload your skins you spent money on. No idea why people always go for that point. It's a boon for digital ownership because in every other circumstance, it's better than the company leasing you the thing and not letting you do anything with it, despite you spending money on it.

[@rickybobby5153]

@@kirareactsNo other game tries to imply you own anything or tie tangible real world assets to it. How much did they pay you? AryaKira?

[@FurtiveCutless]

​@@kirareacts so it's.... a marketplace like you'd find in almost any mmo? How revolutionary.

[@kirareacts]

Yes, anyone you disagree with is committing a crime. Very clever.

[@Nassifeh]

@@kirareacts I mean, the thing here is that all you need for this is a real-money marketplace. Yes, that makes you dependent on the game itself to continue to support this--but I think the thing people miss with crypto/NFTs is that you're going to need that anyway. Even if you can trade them on OpenSea or anywhere else, nothing actually guarantees that the thing you're trading on OpenSea will continue to have any impact on the thing in the game. I don't think it's necessarily a huge bad thing either if the game is fun overall, whatever, right? But I think you're buying too much of the hype here as far as what this means for "ownership". Steam could similarly just tell you that you absolutely own an activation code for every game you buy, but that doesn't obligate them to make that activation code do anything. OTG are giving you a thing you "own", but the thing you own is not the thing you're using in the game and has no inherent utility or value. You have no ability to force the game to make the NFT do anything. You don't own a skin or whatever this way, you just own some JSON! The actual in-game thing is 100% still just borrowed, particularly on a free-to-play game like this where they could really change the game's terms whenever.

[@immortaljellyfish1051]

Seems a real 'pay to 'compete' is likely to emerge with the load out system. When the meta starts and specific items are needed and on the market as nft's, line goes up

[@kirareacts]

Entirely possible, just not the case right now and not guaranteed to be.

[@Gnarfendorf]

Why do i get the distinct feeling that Kira got hacked and replaced by AI generated footage and sound? Being fair and at least slightly positive in the comments towards a crypto product? Dafuq happened to you man?

[@kirareacts]

I've been fair the entire time. And I change my opinions based on information obtained at the time, I don't just fail to update my position or pretend everything is the same at all times. Is this not the normal thing people do? I'm confused by your comment to be honest. Dafuq happened to you?

[@Gnarfendorf]

@@kirareacts Okay, "fair" might have been the wrong word to use there, but i remember you being more sceptical to crypto and nft stuff. Maybe im just getting old and paranoid. Also, audio and video are off once again in the segments where youre on screen, just fyi. I still appreciate your work, so i hope you dont take my comment the wrong way.

[@kirareacts]

I'm no less skeptical. Not sure where you got that idea. Your age shouldn't matter, my stance literally hasn't changed since I started making crypto videos 2+ years ago, I've maintained the exact same opinions, and said so in this video. My only change is that I've talked positively about this game, because for once, they've delivered a game in the way I said would work. What would make you paranoid about that? The audio/video aren't off on my end, so unsure where the issue is.

[@Gnarfendorf]

@@kirareacts Well, might be my skewered perception, since most of the crypto "games" youve covered in the past could barely be called games in the first place. Also, age comes into play when you get older and have less patience for people trying to sell you their bs. 10 years ago i may have fallen for crypto nonsense and the like, nowadays i have a massive hatred for people trying to screw over others, and crypto and nfts will never loose that aspect for me, the well has been poisoned too much with all of the scams going around in the past and present. Putting something i absolutely despise, aka crypto, into something i spend most of my freetime on, aka games, will never look good to me, no matter how great the game is or how unintrusive the crypto and nft stuff is. I wouldnt want to touch that with a 10 foot pole.

[@kirareacts]

That's okay, you don't need to.

[@Detton30]

Okay, so... the whole "owning your own stuff and doing what you want with it" part. What happens if, say, I start hacking and cheating the ever-loving crap out of this game in the most egregious ways possible, ruining the experience of everybody that groups with me, being an absolute menace, a completely intolerable human centipede of a monster. I'm going to get banned right? I would hope so; any kind of game *MUST* have anti-cheating things in place. Do they enforce any rules upon people playing the game whatsoever? So if I am inevitably banned for being a literal garbage human, what then happens with my 'ownership' of these resources? The things I cheated to gain, do I keep them? Can I redeem them still after i'm banned, buy and sell them, play with them still in game (since that's the only way to interact with them outside of selling them), with other players despite having earned everything through - and I have to keep stating it like this - unconscionably egregious and reckless use of hacks, cheats, aimbots, etc. If I am still allowed full access to these resources, then: Cheaters run the house and make the rules, why would I want to play in an ecosystem that does not punish total asshats like myself? There are no meaningful consequences. If I am not allowed full access to these resources, then: My ownership of them means nothing, and it is EXACTLY the same as the Steam marketplace with more steps. I do not see this as a "use caser", I see this as "using crypto/NFTs in a way that is perfectly doable and less complicated, more efficient, and simply better without it. That's always been the problem crypto has: Nothing it does, can't be done easier and better without it. You can re-create a Valve-like online marketplace for pixels that can only exclusively be used in that specific game, without crypto. And it'd be easier and a better game for it.

[@kirareacts]

Creating a valve like system but universally for all games, would require creating a wallet type system for users, which would then be reinventing the wheel of what blockchain already does.

[@mkaleborn]

Sounds like that’s an invitation for governments to (finally) step in and start regulating the hell out of these new financial systems/concepts in the online/digital space. Which becomes problematic when talking about people ‘cheating’ at a ‘game’. To use probably a bad example: We absolutely own our Monopoly sets, but the government wont step in if we ‘steal’ Park Place, or move our token one step forward to avoid going to ‘jail’. Even if a group of friends are tossing real cash in to the pot to fill up that Free Parking space. If someone is cheating at a video game using this real money, digital crypto, game-agnostic idea of ‘owning digital assets’ then we’re talking property theft, counterfeiting and FBI-grade activities done by kids in Mom’s basements on the order of 10’s of thousands. I can see why ‘gubment wouldn’t want to get too dirty there. But maybe that has to happen if it’s going to ever become a serious and trusted component of gaming, digital asset ownership and, let’s face it, international trade. Sounds messy, probably is. And way above my pay grade to try and make sense out of. And I’m sure I’m not alone there by any stretch, which is kind of a problem for the crypto-gaming industry….

[@candyaxe45]

​@@kirareactswhat you said doesn't answer anything the OP presented. You said you really went in depth researching this topic but have you? (You said as such in a comment to another commenter.) Do you as someone speaking on the game and crypto side of the game have anything to reply to the OP instead of just the last 3 sentences of his comment ultimately answering nothing? This is my first time seeing your channel and I'll watch more but I hope this isn't indicative of your other content or your views on crypto in the gaming space.

[@oliver_twistor]

You're making an excellent point here, something I hope Kira will expand upon in a video and not just answer with a strange non-answer in a comment. To his defence, KZbin comments aren't exactly the best place for long-form and in-depth discussion, unfortunately. If all you lose as a cheater is access to the game, but get to keep all the real-world valuable NFT's that you then can sell, I would say that is a trade-off I would be willing to make as a cheater. And that spells disaster for the game. What would I care if I can't play a game I destroy by cheating anyway, when I can make thousands of dollars on selling my ill-gotten gains through the second-hand market? It's like letting a bank robber keep the stolen money and just throw them in prison. Perhaps the bank robber thinks it's worth spending a couple of years in prison if there is millions of dollars waiting for them on the outside. That would be a horrible system. I think we can all agree on that criminals shouldn't get to keep the proceeds of their illegal activities. So, why should cheaters be treated any differently? And if they shouldn't, to your point, how is that any different from not having NFT's?

[@Xyler94]

@@kirareacts Lol, stop Kira. You have literally no idea what you're talking about. Steam already does this. Any game's welcomed to join in on Steam Marketplace. You claim the blockchain does it differently, but it's just a decentralized database. That's all the blockchain is at its core. The more it is used, the heavier the resources, and the more gas fees are paid. Blockchain isn't the future of gaming.

[@sooz6092]

For a game marketing itself as "cyberpunk", it has none of the "punk" and looks like some generic shooter with robotic limbs...which isn't what cyberpunk is about. Also ive never heard of this game until today, and it really doesn't look that impressive, i'm getting Xdefiant vibes more than anything and would not be surprised if it died in the first 2 months just like it.

[@pyroman7196]

When you add financial incentive (as a bot hobbiest) you add a target on your game’s back for hackers, cheaters, bot builders, it’s an insanely horrible idea to add a financial incentive to games unless you are ready to go to war with a full anti cheat team and physical monitoring system. Some of my bots are fully anti detection because the game set the bar and I wanted to surpass it. They even behave like humans, make human type errors such as in shooters where you target a bush knowing it’s a common camping spot. A bot good knows nobody’s there but it’ll still check. If there’s money on the line that I don’t have to work hard for (Eg. Getting gold, selling said gold VS having a market for gear that I don’t have to work to sell) I’m absolutely taking a week off work to be first bot army on the game, flooding the market and getting a new car in a week. Anti cheat and physical monitoring doesn’t do anything on the first month, that’s prime time to slaughter the game. Just my perspective on this game you’re reviewing. If there’s money available for grabs, that markets getting flooded, especially if it’s free so if a bot gets banned, I can have 700 more accounts waiting. I really think that’s a bad idea to add real money or real markets

[@seriousmike5649]

NFTs in game = auto hard pass

[@SSGLGamesVlogs]

With a Tesla, preferably.

[@drganknstein]

Same staying far away from trash like this.

[@cocaroto9650]

Wait dog, you been hitting weights and you got a trim?

[@kirareacts]

aye, somewhat

[@2slowpoke929]

@@kirareacts I've been watching you on off and I got used to the beard and 'softer' look to your face. I had to double check if the voice was coming out of the same face 🤣 Great to see you look a lot better now

[@burpiiiin2382]

@@kirareactsbro the new beard looks great, u should keep it 👍

[@kirareacts]

Thanks, I'll be keeping things short probably going forward

[@clearspira]

@@kirareacts Any man who can grow a full beard should grow a full beard. It grants a +50 boost to your masculinity score. The new beard is just kind of there tbh.

[@yeetus514]

I will never play a crypto bro game ever. I have higher morals and standards.

[@nesbittracing1081]

your browser search history would beg to differ 😉😆

[@kirareacts]

That's a very lofty ideal, to have such high morals and standards that you won't play a video game. Hopefully we can all strive to be as virtuous as you.

[@Rocklord666]

​@@xLionsxxSmithyxits a fair response considering how sanctimonious the comment sounds

[@laz0rbra1n]

@@kirareacts spare your sarcasm. most people can't even live up to this standard of not playing a video game.

[@kirareacts]

No, I'll continue my sarcasm because this comment is hilarious and deserves it.

[@col2212]

What did you do with the real Kira?

[@-vart-]

Streamers are the only ones saying it’s taking over. The graphics, animations, and gameplay just look like ass

[@ImJustBetterG]

💀 tell me you dont got a good pc without telling me

[@Ghooostalker]

​@@ImJustBetterG Tell me you haven't played a good game without telling me.

[@ImJustBetterG]

@@Ghooostalker just finished god of war. Cope lil buddy 🤣😭

[@-vart-]

@@ImJustBetterG 4070ti super, ryzen 9 5900x, go bang your girl before i do it. i havent even played the game, not worth my time

[@-vart-]

@@ImJustBetterG walking movie simulator where you press one button

[@wolfiechica]

No way. The reason crypto won't work in gaming, even as - as you would prefer, and so would I - a potential means to "own our stuff" is because frankly because there is NO ONE to enforce its existence or continuity. Regulation is the nature required to ensure ownership. Crypto naturally has no official regulation. You will NOT be able to own your games/skins/etc, just because it's managed by some other dude-bro pretending to be a company dealing in Monopoly money instead of an actual corporation held to lawful consequences for consumer practice violations (albeit weakly enforced). There is no measures that dude-bro can be held to, because you instead gave your money to them in full trust of your own volition, and no contract to state he wouldn't just walk off with those funds. To be clear a great game will be playable even if it has crypto as you say, I agree. But will I ever believe in a future of gaming with crypto as some sort of holy grail to make HONEST money? To ensure that even if I put money into it, I can get something guaranteed back? No, never. And neither should anyone else. Sadly is not how the world works currently.

[@ronreinicke2314]

The existence of NFTs that you extract in the game is secured by math via the blockchain (which is not controlled by the company but thousands of validators) and social consensus (the company could blacklist NFTs for their game, but this would not be accepted by the crypto community and demand would plummet)

[@MuShinnen]

​@@ronreinicke2314In... An unregulated market known for money disappearing? Sure bruv. It's locked in. Lmfao

[@Gaming_Legend2]

Blockchain is just an invoice nothing more than just that, if there is no server to the link your invoice is linked to then it has no value nor is it anything more than just some numbers and letters

[@wonderwallz99]

Short sighted argument. Just because something isn't possible now doesn't mean it won't be. If everything was decentralized, even servers, items on-chain.. you'd still find an issue with it. Right now, that tech isn't here. It's easy to argue against something you can't see happening in the future.

[@onofish487]

Cheaters will love this.

[@Squatch_needs_no_heroes]

0:21 Hey, I wanted a ‘friendo.’

[@_itjustworks8441]

So did I 😢

[@leopard_52]

Crypto will always be stupid until there are government regulations. Their's a reason the paper money and credit cards normal people use are regulated. Crypto/the ability for anyone to make money in gaming at any time just screams cheater central, lmao.

[@TheStol]

this game is a buggy mess, whose devs have never heard of optimization. absolute garbage.

[@merphul]

That it's a good game is the differentiator between this and other crypto games... but there's still the cost/benefit that is still very poorly defined and what that means in the long term. 1) the primary "pro" is that you can "own" things. Prove you own a license for the game, prove that the currency and digital goods you've bought/earned in the game belong in your account. But ultimately and always you're beholden to the company that develops the game. Crypto enthusiasts like to say "well decentralization unchains your ownership from the corporation," so what? You really can't play that game completely unchained from the company. The best you can do is download a massive codebase, if they'll let you, and run a game instance off your own hardware. Even then these games are usually largely popular, and have a marketplace, because they are MMO's, you don't want to just play and trade with the 30-50 people on your personal list of gaming friends, so if the company shuts down matchmaking/services then what good is it to have proof of ownership of license/items if you can't DO anything with it. There's also the question of patching and when the company stops updates. Unless they manage to make the game perfect you'll have to accept a game with flaws or if, again IF, they let you down load the full code base and there's projects for users to mod, then you end up fragmenting instances unless the entire community agrees to use specific sets of community made mods, that again fragments the player base and you're right back to only playing/trading with your 30-50 gaming friends. 2) are the gas fees worth the cost of this level of "proving" ownership. That's often the negative that crypto enthusiasts gloss over. Yeah even if your fever dreams about crypto come true, is it worth the time/power to enact that vs the current methods of online security, be it your banking info, email account or digital goods in games. Kira mentions that the load times can be pretty bad with frame rate drops. Part of that is probably poor optimization or lack of server capacity, but part of that could well be checking/writing to the blockchain. At the end of the day gamers want speed and convenience. Sure this game apparently makes the crypto/blockchain aspects very under the hood to the point where a player coming in could be unaware that this there is a blockchain aspect, but if interacting with the blockchain causes the experience to lag and stutter, then it runs the real risk of getting dropped for being a "laggy/buggy" game, even if the players don't realize what's causing the latency to be able to consider if the type of digital security is worthwhile. Part of why crypto used for currency has always, and possibly will always, struggle is that it can't be used fast/easy enough vs simply handing someone money or swiping your credit card. The lack of immediate convenience is a killer for your day to day person looking to just use money, and if two games offer very similar experiences and one runs like butter vs the other that has built in latency due to writing/checking to the ledger, a game could lose out just based on long load/wait times.

[@medea27]

Interesting to _finally_ see a game that seems to be a genuine attempt at a 'use case' for blockchain tech in gaming and not just a crypto project wearing a video game-adjacent skin. I'm certainly no fan of crypto, but I don't dismiss the idea of blockchain technology itself being useful in gaming in some way... not so much from a 'player ownership' perspective but more from a back-end, developer & game architecture POV. Anything related to investing, gambling or 'play to earn' has no business being in video games IMO, and that includes the whole CS2 skin economy & gatcha mechanics - not just crypto & NFTs. But I can imagine that the tech might be useful as something more utilitarian, like an alternative receipting system or back-end for smaller devs to implement cosmetic shops without relying on being in a big platform's ecosystem like Valve or Epic. Basically the potential to offer a better consumer experience _indirectly_ (through reduced development costs, cheaper games, more competition) rather than the ridiculous money-making B.S. that crypto bros shill. It will be interesting to see what direction this game takes, regardless. Appreciate your reasoned, honest take as always Kira! 👍

[@nightmarethekitsunewolf]

Why does no one mention the horrible environmental impacts of these sorts of things? No matter the customer benefit, the amount of server space required for these types of things majorly outweighs those due to the environmental cost.

[@kirareacts]

Because the environmental impacts of "these sorts of things" is close to a non-issue. What you're referencing is an incredibly outdated talking point, and only really relevant to bitcoin. The "server space" is, as far as I'm aware, no more taxing than any other video game. The blockchain however, uses considerably less power than you likely think it does.

[@Lenariet]

You probably mean "proof of work" blockchains, which seem to be far and few inbetween. Many if not all that are being used for gaming and stuff seem to utilize "proof of stake", which from what I know are way less environmental destructive. So yes, as Kira mentioned, this is not much of a valid point anymore for us critics to make.

[@oliver_twistor]

@@kirareacts Although proof of work is the worst of the bunch, implying NFT's doesn't have a major environmental impact is misleading. Comparing to a single row in a relational database, an NFT is incredibly costly to the environment, especially considering its entire lifecycle from minting to validation. Considering that NFT effectively serves the same function as the row in a database, it's absolutely worth discussing the issue of climate impact. While a single NFT on the Ethereum network might not be significant, it adds up. How many NFT's are going to be minted during this game's lifecycle? If more games are adopting this, the environmental impact will rapidly grow.

[@real_miamo]

​@@oliver_twistornext up, Why everyone should take the buss instead of driving eletric cars. Idk man just sayn, if you truly want to you can make anything a issue. But why do you choose this one to be it? Do you have any statistics or do you just base it on "its worse then".

[@TufferLevendLijk]

It's a fun free game. If u ignore the tradingpart so

[@jamesray741]

It's on Epic launcher. It's going to be a big fat no to me.

[@Scarecr0wn]

Played the closed beta, the setting and mechanics are my kind of game but the optimisation was really rough and jank was real (especially the hit detection as mentioned in video). Will give it a go now, I do not care about the crypto whatever but good cyberpunk BR/extraction game is something I´ve been missing on a market.

[@SSiXaXiS]

Kira 0:42 thats as far as i got before throwing up. Thanks for the video. Crypto in games is a terrible idea

[@kyosokutai]

Historically, the only reason Cryptoconomies or NFTs are added in a game, is because it's a even more aggressive form of monetization. Which means they are putting monetization over making an actual game. Which usually means it is a grift or a scam or a product of bros who dropped out of econ-101 in favor of blind worship of the invisible hand of the market. (while ignoring or cherry picking the actual scriptures of it). Also: There's been dozens of extraction shooters in the last few years alone. I've seen better products fare worse than this. Hell I've been dragged in to play some of these pvp sweatfests. I personally do not see the appeal, and considering a lot of them are devoid of players after a scant few months, - neither does the vast majority.

[@MrLilhauughh]

Man, I really enjoy your approach to content creating. Not sure how I found your channel, but I am really happy that I did nonetheless!

[@Lenariet]

More should be nuanced like he is. But others often farm hate and drama no matter what without giving much of common sense input whatsoever. He is probably gonna get good bits of insults like "does your butt hurt from all this fencesitting?" for even remotely implying that some NFT game could have the slightest merits. Also hearing him kinda blasting Valve right now, lol, he really doesn't mind going up against all those who prefer to suck up holy lord Gaben's dingdong.

[@thisthenametaken]

Extraction, battle royale and third person shooter. They forgot to add cover-based as well. Every day we stray further from Quake.

[@phoenixmarktwo]

Quake strayed from Castle Wolfenstein. The original, not Wolfenstein 3D.

[@Lenariet]

I played tiny bits of Quake and a good chunk of Unreal Tournament. But I'm fairly sure I'm too old for these twitchy itchy arena shooters now. I don't need tediously hyperrealistic ARMA or silly effects and ultimates galore hero shooters either. It's hard to find shooters that "click" with me but Quake-likes aren't it. I tried CS2 the other day again and probably shouldn't have wasted disc space for it. Insurgency is okay-ish. Third-person shooters I enjoy. More than plenty of others anyway. I loved The Division. But I see why some have extremely troubled feelings about them in PvP.

[@Mosleso]

I'm shocked to not hear you put enough emphasis on how bad the game is performing. They are literally asking for a 3060 ti minimum requirements and a recommended of 4070 which is crazy because most people don't have those specs. Game performed like trash, no optimization whatsoever.

[@kirareacts]

The issue is that I'm a single person and I can only speak on my experience. As stated in the video, I have a top of the line computer. So I don't experience just how "trash" it is, as you claim. As for the recommended specs being high, I'm not of the opinion that making games that are demanding is inherently an issue, unless you don't have the requirements. If a company wants to make a game that requires high end machines, that's on them. But I did mention the game has performance issues, not sure what else I can say aside from that, when that's what I experienced.

[@Mosleso]

@@kirareacts Fair enough. I've read comments from everywhere where people could barely play the game even with recommended specs including myself, so I just wanted to point that out.

[@kirareacts]

Fair enough, I try to avoid social media mostly for my reviews, because I'm giving my opinion typically and otherwise I'd be influenced by what others are saying.

[@cibularas3485]

"most people don't have those specs" Aww Poor gamerzzzzz

[@javonyounger5107]

I don't want my financial future tied into how well I do at a video game.

[@kirareacts]

At what point is your financial future tied to how well you do at a video game?

[@javonyounger5107]

@@kirareacts I feel like the core idea behind tying a game to NFTs and Crypto is that if you do well or invest enough time, you receive a monetary benefit. And this is something I see as inherently damaging to the experience. It adds this incentive to play just so you can cash out, rather than playing because you're having fun, and not just at the highest levels like you might see in other games with esports, for example, but throughout the entire ladder for all players. And if you lean into this feature, which seems to be intended, as why would they integrate it if they didn't want you to lean into it, you have now tied your financials to what is supposed to be a source of entertainment. So, if you don't engage with it, it's still damaging to the experience; if you do engage with it, it's even more damaging to the experience.

[@PyroTech03]

​@@javonyounger5107or just play the game? The nft stuff only matters if you want to sell stuff you don't want. You can just hoard all the items until you have everything in the game. The people who engage with it only benefit they can get gear for loadout easier than you if you rely just on hex extraction. And then you always drop with nothing so....

[@kirareacts]

I can't specifically help what you feel, but just know that what you feel isn't always true or even a concern. You can feel that exact way about almost anything in life, but you don't, so why do it here? Seems like a bias/blindspot issue for this topic. You're the one creating these things and asserting that they're true, but it isn't the case. There's no more of a core idea of this than there is in dota 2 or csgo, or rust, or any other game that uses this system. Again, your financial future is not tied to the video game. Not in any way.

[@Pachitaro]

You made this comment one minute into the video 💀

[@0uttaS1TE]

"It's taking over" just like how Spectre Divide is "taking over". And Delta Force is "taking over". And The Finals is "taking over". In fact, I'd argue The Finals is a good comparison point. It won't matter how good the game is. A free to play shooter is already an up hill battle. When you add in something that gamers hate (AI voiceover in The Finals, NFTs here), even in the smallest dose or in a way that's avoidable or "ethical", there will be a strong contingent who will refuse to play it then and there. And the silent majority won't care enough about the game to drop whatever their main squeeze is. Best case scenario, you get a niche diehard audience. Worst case scenario, you end up on Death Of A Game in a year, tops.

[@lucasLSD]

Delta Force is taking over, in south america, ps2 game was huge here.

[@maskettaman1488]

No one hates AI voices outside of some luddites on twitter. It's such an irrelevant thing

[@Lenariet]

People either seem to have forgotten about those AI voices in The Finals or there were never that many who cared about it to begin with, so this clearly is being accepted by many if done well enough - similar to how NFTs/crypto/blockchain may one day find adoption and acceptance if devs heed the philosophy of "game first" and implement this stuff in a way that gamers won't notice and be bothered with much. We don't have to like this, I personally think the attacks on AI are exaggerated while NFTs could burn all day. But we are not the majority - the casual gamers who simply don't care as much are.

[@MuShinnen]

@@maskettaman1488 We have got to teach internet bros not to toss around words like Luddite without actually knowing when it applies. This has become the new "simp", and it nukes any point you might actually be attempting to make.

[@MuShinnen]

@@Lenariet That logic doesn't work with games like this. This game won't last with casual people by virtue of what it plans to implement. This game is an online competitive game. That means hackers. It also means people who will get really good at really gaming the system to utterly decimate casual players. Add to the equation that there would be literal money on the table? Yeah no. This isn't going to end well.

[@kocokan]

Only time will tell

[@erock.steady]

it took me all of 20 seconds to disregard this as a gaming option when i determined crypto was involved. maybe i'll reconsider my position.

[@ekki1993]

Buying into the potential for crypto is like thinking that removing all traffic laws will lead to better driving for everyone. All of what it offers can be done with centralised control. Even if it's better than Steam (which I still don't buy, NFTs are just as locked into their crypto network as Steam trading cards), there are other legal entities that can fulfill both "true ownership" and legal protections. It's still a solution looking for a problem.

[@Sam-bs8xc]

Nice to see someone taking a level headed approach. IMO this is what blockchain should be used for, a tool for developers. Just like people don't care about what database or HTTP server you're using. The way they have used it means they had a good foundation and a well made ledger for their shop and it doesn't mess with players gameplay. I don't see a huge problem either, since it's an alright game.

[@shanbannan17]

NFTS and crypto 😂 am out

[@Hossimo]

@0:21, you totally lost me a Crypto!

[@tinypixiebread]

I have always been open minded when it come to video games, lot of time I had to force myself to play certain genre to find that "Oh you know what, I love this!" But this game however I have a mixed feeling (in a good way), it shows promising future but also a terrible reputation it has to build up which is not its fault. I want to try it but have no friends who even care/dare to stay close because of NFT, I can't blame them. Tbf, non of them play CS2 so collecting limited digital goods is not their thing.

[@serioserkanalname499]

Battle royal crypto is about the worst combination of things ever. Like a prostate exam with sandpaper gloves.

[@drganknstein]

Its got an amazing cash shop that lets you p2w. Thats all this game is about, making money. Its going to draw in tons of cheaters i bet.

[@Zanenoth]

Do you think Kira will cover his own downfall video on his other channel?

[@wonderwallz99]

You commented about how people scam people in crypto. It's still very much happening all the time with cash or any kind of indian scam call. There's a lot of bad actors in everything, especially where there is money. I'm glad you gave this game a real shot because years back I was critical of you because you focused on games that currently existed (2021 scams). The obvious reason for that is development time for good games. There will most definitely be 98% trash games coming out of crypto.. but that also happens on Steam each day. I know the decentralization argument doesn't apply to current blockchain games either, considering they're just files hosted on a domain. We won't see true decentralized games for another 5+ yrs. MMO's with 'legal' RMT would be nice.. even if in the form of blockchain. Either that or legalize it in all games.

[@LordBooga]

I mean, it's great that the game is good, but nothing the game does needs crypto, and if the block chain used is run by the developer/publisher then you don't own anything

[@kirareacts]

Not really how much of blockchain works to be honest. The concept of "run by" is one that changes based on who made it and how it is made.

[@LordBooga]

@@kirareacts Seems like it uses a chain or ecosystem called GUNZ which runs on something called Avalanche, which is a backend for deploying and running blockchains. GUNZ was developed by the same team as the game, so I bet their end goal is to sell GUNZ (or usage thereof for minting) to other developers to use. That being said, since they control the whole ecosystem, if they pull the plug the stuff is all worthless, no matter what it's "worth". The whole thing looks like one big incestuous mess of buzz-words and useless things.

[@LupinTelegar]

This is interesting to learn about. As you've always said if they concentrate on the game first and not the crypto et al and produce a great game then they have a chance of offering something that could be successful with gamers. I couldn't help but feel a sense of unease when knowing it's a game with crypto. Still, you've given this a fair review in my mind and I'll aim to be open minded. I don't play these type of games so it's not of direct interest to me anyway, but I'm intrigued to learn of how the landscape might be changing in this area and I appreciate you giving it screen time to update us.

[@homeskol720]

This is the first time I have ever heard of it and I was kind of excited to play until you mentioned the Crypto link, moving on.....

[@deufvelli]

the reason why you feel off and some parts are good and some are not is because this cryptogames built on assets, they have different quality and they do not stuck as default(except fully working games like lyra). assets is not only models, its also code, shooting, moving, reload, the whole feeling of the character

[@sirbonobo3907]

Welcome back FRIENDO´s!

[@Blazehoof]

The thing I don't get, that if the process is transparent, then you don't control your wallet. They do. And in crypto, if you don't control your wallet, you don't own anything. Or did I miss something?

[@aaronhersey8466]

Any "game" that mentions crypto or NFTs is a scam.

[@kirareacts]

Who are they scamming? And how?

[@Xyler94]

@@kirareacts You, and with NFTs. I can only assume you got some of these NFTs and are now financially biased towards the success of this game. Or you got some of their GUNZ tokens and need the game to succeed to cash out.

[@Sam-bs8xc]

@@Xyler94 He says right at the start that he has nothing tied to game, no nfts, no GUNZ tokens, even the items he gained are just test ones

[@JamesJamesonn]

Your going to find that there is lots of games in development or in early access that will use this tech in the background without you knowing.

[@oliver_twistor]

I think the point you made about ownership is a distinction without a difference. If I buy a skin for a game on Steam, and Valve decides to shut me out, I'm out of luck as you pointed out. I lose access to that skin. But if I buy a skin on the blockchain for a game like Off the Grid, and I lose access to the game, either by being banned because of some violation (real or perceived) or the game itself shuts down, yeah, I'll still have access to my skins on the blockchain, but what good do they do me without a game to use them in. It's like owning a deed and a key to a house that burned down. Sure, I can show people that I once owned a house, and I would have the means to access it, but the house itself is gone. I can't sell the deed, because who would want a deed to a burned down house (for the sake of argument, I assume that the deed doesn't include any land, just the house itself). So, I'm sitting there with a worthless piece of paper (and metal) that I can't sell, even if I want to. Owning games DRM-free like on GOG where one can (and should) download an offline copy of the game is another matter. That one I do understand the benefit of, and I agree it's preferable to licensing games through Steam. But I would argue GOG and other DRM-free downloadable options are the closest thing to a physical disk as one gets, much closer than the blockchain, because what happens if the blockchain can't be validated anymore due to a failure in the algorithm, a lack of internet connectivity or something else? If one has a copy (physical or digital) on one's harddrive or on a movable medium, they will always have access to that game as long as there is hardware capable of reading that medium. So, why use the blockchain at all for game ownership? Why not move past that and let people download games, skins etc. onto the device and medium of choice directly? Blockchain just add another point of failure, because as you and many others know by now, an NFT is just a pointer to a resource, not the resource itself (in most cases). It's as useful as keeping the receipt one gets from Steam when buying a game. It's still not true ownership, because all you own is the receipt, not the actual game in binary form.

[@MichaelB-jw5po]

Honestly man I love your content and I've been watching your videos for years, but I don't know how you can say at this point that you don't hate the idea of crypto games. And I don't know how you can praise a crypto game so highly, no matter how good the actual gameplay is and how obscure the crypto stuff is.

[@kirareacts]

I can say that because that's just how I feel. It isn't very deep or complex. And I can praise it because I enjoy the game. Same reason anyone praises anything. Why would this be confusing or any kind of issue?

[@SonySteals]

How can it fail if it’s not woke?! 😱😱

[@GoodKut]

Let’s be honest, at least it’s an actual game.

[@SnivyTries]

Honestly, my question about Off the Grid is... Why should I play this over Warzone? And I'm not talking about the skins, I mean hard gameplay. What makes this game stand out enough to pull me away from the existing stuff, that I'm already invested in?

[@kirareacts]

It's a different game, it's not even the same perspective. If you're happy with warzone, there wouldn't be any real reason beside trying something new and seeing what you prefer.

[@laz0rbra1n]

the fact that it's not by Actifuckingvision

[@SnivyTries]

@@kirareacts Fair enough. One other question I have, which is something I always do wonder about in BR, do you have any form of firearm immediately when dropping, or are you only equipped with your fists until you find a firearm?

[@maxstr]

Kira what kind of reaction did you expect from your comment section? You knew your audience is going to hate this. I think you approached this topic the wrong way. You can't just drop a bomb like that and expect any of your subscribers to support your opinion. For years, you trained us, taught us, proved to us that crypto games = bad. That's not changing after 1 weird video

[@kirareacts]

I didn't expect anything, nor do I care how people react. I approached it in my way, aka the only way I approach anything. And the video isn't weird. What an odd thing to say.

[@maxstr]

@@kirareacts honestly because the first thing I thought was, 'They must be an advertiser. Or he's invested in it.' But I know you would never lie like that. It's still a perception issue

[@kirareacts]

Yes, that's an issue with you, nothing else. If your immediate reaction to a video you may disagree with is "he must be committing a crime", which is what the act of accepting money for an undisclosed promotion is, or at the least bad "there's some financial incentive that is otherwise making him say or do things", then that's an incredibly wild conclusion to leap to. Especially when the alternative is "he just has an opinion I don't like". 1. There's nothing to invest in, I said that in this video, if you watched it you should know that. The game's "token" isn't live, can't be purchased and therefor doesn't exist. Meaning not me or anyone else can even physically own it. It's not possible. Nor would I ever own it and then not mention it if that were the case. 2. I have owned cryptocurrency since about 2016. But i've never owned a single penny of the underlying blockchain that this game uses, Avalanche. Nor am I intending to buy any based on this game or any other reason. So, again, nothing there and I'd disclose it if I did, whether it was prior to hearing about or playing this game or not. As I did when I talked about axie, which runs on eth and I currently owned eth (panned the "game", was trash). Just like I'd disclose if they paid me, because that's not only my moral and ethic stance, but it's also the literal law. 3. Lots of people will and have accused me of being paid, just for liking something. This happens with normal games too. I am not allowed to like something anymore, just because I've been critical of things previously. I'm also critical of this game, I speak about the negatives in this very video. I've never liked anything so much that I won't also discuss my issues with it..And yet I'm still accused of being paid if I enjoy anything. That's the internet. People have conspiracy brain, common sense is dead.

[@maxstr]

@@kirareacts Kira, my friend, (even if one sided), I mean no disrespect. I don't plan to unsub or anything. This is just a slightly controversial video. But I have to disagree that's it's just a "me" problem, as a quick scroll through the comments shows a good number of other conversations. But people aren't angry with you, all I'm saying is that it's out of character for you. And as much as you may dislike this thought, you're not longer just some random guy on KZbin. Your high quality, long-form edited videos have sculpted you into a sort of persona or character for the audience. That's why I said it was a weird video. Not to offend you, but because it didn't quite fit in with the "Kira brand". Does that make sense? People are attacking "Kira", not you personally.

[@kirareacts]

I never even said anyone was attacking me. I'm simply telling you that what you said is silly. Other people saying it is also silly. It's only controversial because of what I described in the comment you just replied to. And some people certainly are angry witj me. But as I stated already, I don't care. At the core of it, it is a you problem that you feel some kind of way. Not you as in singular, but you who feels that way.

[@maxstr]

It just looks like a low budget Call of Duty. What audience are they going for? CoD fans won't like it

[@laz0rbra1n]

I don't like CoD fans either

[@ninthreaver]

You know when a game is OP when an item is so fun to use but used against you its hated, that's the thumper legs for sure. Definitely needs more of a warning and same as being shot as you said. It's such an enjoyable game and I'm glad I gave it a shot after hearing crypto being in it.

[@MKhrome]

You're still locked to the OTG ecosystem to actually use the NFT's as game pieces. If the game goes down, you're stuck with worthless stuff. There's also the question of why is this necessary in the first place: It tries to legitimize the monetization method. Why are we happy about that? There's also other questions which remain unanswered: You may own an NFT, but the developer can still change the content of that NFT at will. Imagine for example the controversial all black skin in Warzone a few years ago, which made you nearly invisible. It was brightened up significantly to balance it. In other words, the developer can still change what you "own" at will, unless the developer of OTG is fine risking bricking their game with unbalanced items. There's also the question of, does this game need crypto to be good? And the answer really is no, so it doesn't really add anything specific of value.

[@Nick-zm2vm]

No "What up friendos"? Very sad

[@cyh6092]

I only playing single player RPGs at this point and have zero interest in this type of game but I always watch the K man. Have we spotted any cats since Kira moved?

[@arvinjay336]

This is from Neill Blomkamp's studio right?

[@oliver_twistor]

Yes it is.

[@foxbruner]

This is an actual serious question: Is Steam taking away your game key because they feel like it or stopped supporting the game functionally any different from Crypto-Steam not honouring your Crypto-Game key because they blacklisted it or stopped supporting the crypto-game? It seems like the seller/distributor still has final say on whether you own your game to me but I'm not all that savvy on this stuff.

[@kirareacts]

This isn't really engaging with the issue. Steam shouldn't be able to take away your game key, full stop. Because if you own something, it would be in your possession and therefor they can't take it. That's the problem. The issue is that you currently don't, because your game key(license) is ties to a steam account, which they can do with what they want and is entirely reliant on their service and your access to said service. Crypto-steam doesn't exist, nor does it need to for what I said to work. There doesn't need to be a centralized platform, just game licenses that function as NFTs, that you can keep yourself, transfer independently, and use as you see fit. They wouldn't have the final say, you would. And stopping support for a single player game should never mean you simply lose access to a thing you paid for.

[@foxbruner]

@@kirareacts I wasn't trying to dodge the issue or suggest Steam should have the right to delete your games. (steam should not be able to remove games from you) And I really wasn't trying to be disingenuous in the question. I apologize. I did miss the middle ground where an NFT would allow you to sell the game to a friend or anybody else without a central authority's stamp of approval or "Give me a cut of that." That's a valuable thing. But I wasn't wrapping my head around how an NFT protects your access to even a single player game long term. Any time you want to install/reinstall/update a single player game on a new PC or even an old PC that lost the data, you will need to download the game from some online central resource. How that central resource interprets keys, or even stays online is up to them. If it shuts down then the local copy of the game on your hard drive is the only place it can exist, right? This isn't me being a pedant, I'm actually asking if this is true or if I have missed something. Again, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to be antagonistic.

[@kirareacts]

For the record, I didn't take you as being disingenuous, I just can tell from what you asked that you wasn't engaging with the issue in the way it exists or how I intended to present the solution. I didn't take it as you being some kind of way, so no apologies needed. Anyone can upload a game file to the internet, having some form of universally created program that validates your NFT as access which then unlocks access to the game files wouldn't be very difficult, and then the idea of needing a centralized service to host all the games is irrelevant and unnecessary. That's one idea, there are many that would work in the same circumstance. If it's single player, this works. if it's multiplayer without local host or hosting files available, that's something that needs to be addressed overall in gaming, but this still applies to that.

[@foxbruner]

@@kirareacts okay, I can imagine a blockchain-esque solution in that case if the game is built ground-up without a single distribution source in mind. Thank you.

[@kirareacts]

I don't think it requires that, specifically. You can retroactively add in some form of DRM that authenticates based on a license that is an NFT, versus current implementation of just a license key in text format that authenticates on the internet to a database.

[@deohere7647]

There's a point I feel that you and many others covering these games (or the industry in general) ignore. That loot boxes are unregulated gambling, especially on the steam marketplace or on a crypto platform like this. People with addictive personalities, nurodivergant folks, children, and average folks are vulnerable to substantial monitary ruin & abuse from these sorts of things.

[@kirareacts]

I've made videos with that exact point. So, no, I didn't ignore it.

[@blixx87]

Hey bro, I got a tip for you. You can get enough money for your load out within 5 minutes of starting the game. You have to do one of the contracts, like a bounty, net runner or something else. These give you a lot of cash right away once completed.

[@MangyB4033]

You've always been, like, super legit. You are one bad mfer.

[@sisco8225]

The visual presentation of this game is very good, when i was watching the cinematic i thought it was inspired by Neill Blomkamp, then i looked on youtube and realised he was one of the core people involved in the project.

[@LadyAlriandi]

This sounds like exactly what they are trying to do the Maelstrom game. Try to bring in crypto/web 3 to an actual game that was purchased from the publisher (OG devs own the IP, the crypto company just owns the game itself) They first mentioned web3 crypto ages ago and seems to be a bit more quiet about it now.

[@wolfindragonsclothing]

You look completely different that I wouldn't think it was you without the comment section.

[@3ASY355]

Crypto? I did not even know that. I just boot up the game and was get 15 fps on my 3080 and just uninstall 5min after.😂

[@kirareacts]

Yeah they need to work on that, badly. I don't have that much of an issue and it's impossible due to not having another computer laying around to try out just how bad it is for others, but even I get frame drops and I'm on a 4090. But I'm also playing in super high resolution and top settings.

[@samamies88]

But... i don't own the skin. I own the receipt. If game goes down i can't use the skin anymore. There is no way that i can use same skin on another game either. Thus I don't see much point in "owning" the skins. Steam market works without this "owning" part. Steam doesn't need crypto to work. So am not sure if it helps at all in this game either. Same thing about the game licenses u mentioned: we don't need crypto for that to be possible. The companies just need to change their minds and make it happen.

[@kirareacts]

If the game on steam goes down, same situation.

[@candyaxe45]

Im not against your conversation for digital ownership by any means but I do believe only mentioning Steam and not any other gaming platforms like GOG is a bad faith argument. If your unaware look Up GOG and how they actually let you own the games you buy its very good for us consumers. That being said I think its to much of a ask of players and also the industry itself to move to the Blockchain. Which as you said is not well explained, or is very user friendly. Especially with all of the bad actors out there that are not going away anytime soon. The blockchain technically gives us digital ownership but to what end, we would still need an full industry to have multiple games and places to sell these blockchain based items. Otherwise the whole point is mute and we might as well return to the current system we have now. I also have another point about how alot of items for the steam marketplace are acquired through gambling but thats a longer topic for a comment section. Overall good discussion though ill look at your other content for sure.

[@grgspunk]

A positive review for a crypto title? I need Jauwn to verify this.

[@christophmosimann9244]

I never thought I'd live to see the day when Kiry endorses a crypto game, lol. What a time we live in!

[@mkaleborn]

Very well done Kira. I always try to recognise and appreciate the effort that goes in to sharpening a script or an idea to a razors edge, to best get your point across and cover all your bases. You definitely did that with this one. Great overview and dive into the game, it’s good and potentially problematic aspects, and how it sits in the ‘crypto game’ space and ‘storyline’ to date. Great content and topical discussion of ideas, as usual!

[@kirareacts]

Thanks

[@GarackTheMad]

I'm always hesitant to try a game involving any sort of blockchain technology at this point. Even a game with a solid foundatin like this one runs the risk of either doing something shady with their mtx in future or just randomly shutting down the game early. Unfortunately if these devs are actually trying to use the technology correctly as an addition to a good game (as opposed to making it the focus without giving a damn anout the game like many other blockchain projects) they will face an uphill battle to get some of the more informed gamers to try it.

[@DBuilds]

Its not bad but the crypto part is a major turn off. Things in the shop take days to get because the block chain takes days to get the item your grinded currency for.

[@kirareacts]

Takes a few seconds. "the blockchain" you're referring to can be any number of the hundreds of blockchains, all of which have different transaction times. This one is fairly quick, a matter of seconds. You might be thinking of Bitcoin.

[@DBuilds]

@@kirareacts no man I've had a gun purchase pending for over 24hrs from their store. The devs said in discord their block chain is running slow. I don't really understand why purchasing guns needs to be on a block chain personally but I guess they really wanna go balls deep in this crypto part.

[@kirareacts]

Because the guns are nfts. I've bought dozens of things, sold dozens of others and all have been a few seconds, including a few since posting this comment. I'm sure some edge cases are having issues, but days? Certainly not.

[@BullsMahunny]

Wait wait wait - a game that's tied into Crypto that's actually a game first? What on Earth?

[@jeff5534]

You got a gun pointed to your head just off camera or something?

[@kirareacts]

No, is there a reason you think I would have?

[@cibularas3485]

@@kirareacts Because you dont hate/praise crypto game

[@deufvelli]

i c how its gonna be old pretty fast

[@Squatch_needs_no_heroes]

2:19 eventually a playable crypto game had to happen, there have been so many tries. Doesn’t mean I’ll play it.

[@Warlock8ZERO]

Just an FYI, steam do restore any lost items now, happened to my friend a couple years ago and they got everything back.

[@kirareacts]

Your friend is very lucky then, because steam's own policy online with a quick google search clearly states "no, we do not restore items"

[@vespasian606]

It feels like it might be worth taking a look at the people behind the game. That would be a big factor for me personally. Right now I'm taking a different approach to gaming and just focusing on actually having ownership of what I paid for. This you don't actually own anything BS has gone too far.

[@alderoth01]

So tired of extraction shooters.

[@SasquatchFx]

Why? There are only 2 or 3 that are worth playing currently. That's like saying I'm tired of shooters. It's a game mode that has a lot of potential still.

[@kirareacts]

It also isn't even really an extraction shooter. It's a battle royale with extraction shooter mechanics that can be completely ignored if you choose. But yeah, there's hardly any extraction shooter to be tired of the genre in the first place unless you just don't like the genre, in which case yeah, just don't play them. There's so few that it'll be very easily done to avoid them.

[@-vart-]

Them don’t watch or play them that’s a you issue