Gran Turismo 7 Tuning Experts KEEP Making This EXPENSIVE Mistake! 🤦‍♂️

[@captainzib]

People gotta consider what they’re doing to the engine. If you increase the bore for example, you are physically removing metal from the cylinder bore in the engine block. In real life, this cannot be undone. Once you machine a part, you can’t feasibly un-machine it. Adding parts can be undone, but physically changing a part can’t. If you’re ever unsure, read the description of what every item or process in the shop is.

[@keithgayhart4358]

lol this almost mirrored what i just put. i think that this video did better as a highlight of the in depthness of the new-0ld school GT tuning more then his issue.

[@Citizen_zer0]

Me too didn’t see this message but I added basically the same comment 😂

[@christianodecino2513]

In real life u can change a big bore by sleeving it so that’s not true at all but ok it’s just not an option on the game

[@joestewart5406]

I wish the nitrous wasn’t just a push to pass kinda thing, it would be cool if you could have nitrous controlers and make big power on a na car.

[@nightdriver7216]

Gran Turismo's separation of bolt ons and machined parts is one of its greatest features IMO.

[@bryan34wable]

The fact that when you buy a new engine you don’t get to keep the old one so you can swap back and forth makes about as much sense as not being able to sell your cars even though there is a used car dealership.

[@deadboy5401]

dammit

[@thehwguy4293]

Maybe they should implement somesort of ONLINE used car market where you can sell your car directly to other players.

[@bryan34wable]

@@wils35 what are you talking about. I don’t have an Xbox.

[@bryan34wable]

@@thehwguy4293 that’s would be bad ass. Maybe like a 50% price, plus all the parts you installed.

[@snowpaletehdog]

@@wils35 found the gt shill

[@danny_gaming8504]

If “pro tuners” are making this mistake then I don’t think they should be called “pro tuners”

[@Deftonic101]

Haha yeah

[@fernandocnobrega]

It´s a new era, if someone calls itself a Apache Helicopter we have to call then that

[@yansanent]

Agreed pointless video

[@LewisVinyl]

People who call themselves pro tuners are people who have maxed out a supra with 50 inch rims.

[@joestewart5406]

What help me was actually buying the low rpm turbo, it makes more torque with lower horsepower, so you could gain an advantage on a track with a lot of stop and go turns.

[@robertstump7883]

That makes perfect sense. You don’t just take off high compression pistons. Just bolt on items.

[@smithp573]

Well, in real life you can, it’s just a lot of work. You can’t undo an over bored cylinder though. Not realistically, only by massively over boring it then inserting a sleeve.

[@tompowell91]

The high compression pistons add and remove themselves when switching between turbo and N/A if you own both, with the Mini '65 it does anyway as you cant have both.

[@CHIEFSHOTTY]

Same with weight restriction. you can add up to 200 KG from ballast. However, if very light(weight reduction stage 1-4 can be removed), you may not be able to weigh over a certain amount. I presuming buying new body will reset that but still. So not just one trap.

[@drunkpunk5393]

TRUE NUFF. good heads up thank you. the best way to handle this i think is just have 2 seperate cars. one for single player and one for bop. one with those upgrades if desired and the other without.

[@xxomanxx8852]

Something strange about a difficult 30 - lap race If you win first place, it will give you 5,000. But in some races , three or five laps gives you a sum if you win the first place from 50,000 and above

[@fernandovieira8479]

For real dude.. what the hell happened there.. who choose the rewards

[@THIS---GUY]

If you race clean you get a 50% bonus and if you race with an under powered car against ai you get 25% bonus

[@thepili6336]

They changed it now

[@Azeria]

If you could use a power restrictor to undo everything, they wouldn't need an option to buy a new engine. Edit: You can of course, always buy two of the car, although that's even more expensive than buying a new engine.

[@Kireth]

I think we'll end up with duplicates

[@Azeria]

@@Kireth I've already got ten Honda Jazzes in nine different colours for that Trophy 🤣

[@hidde8232]

I think having two makes sense, one fully tuned and one without the options you cant take off

[@ex_vitae]

@@hidde8232 yeah I have to Integrate Type Rs for that (one that is almost maxed and one bone stock)

[@joestewart5406]

Unfortunately a power restrictor only limits rpm as it would in really life. So lowering it all the way makes it actually worse than stock even if you May have the stock hp, it’s not Gona shift the same.

[@Therubbersluggchannel]

Good job making the community aware, I like to add in in alot of cases I don't upgrade the engine, I go straight for suspension and a wing, tires, and bolt ons , this way you can remove what I need to qualify, no one seems the talk about downforce.

[@keithgayhart4358]

well played. only real reason to bore is if ur going for that absolute max power. but id agree that a good suspension and downforce set-up will over come that power gain.

[@dennismiciano5045]

@@keithgayhart4358 literally spent hours on tuning suspension, and very little engine work and I was able to create a cornering machine! Wing helps a lot also, was able to beat my friends with less hp on Nurburgring because of gaining space in the corners. Def nice to see people speaking about how important tuning the suspension is and down force. Def makes the game addicting just to tune for hours

[@Kireth]

🙌🙌🙌

[@Therubbersluggchannel]

@@Kireth hey my friend my mother passed away Saturday morning, so I haven't caught up with the channel, but keep it going bro I really enjoy your streams a vids

[@EddieOtool]

Well, this is traditional GT tuning, nothing new; I can hardly blame Polyphony for that. Back in the days when Racing Modifications were a thing, it was all the same: you often needed 2 of the same car in order to go through all the races. It will be the same here if they add daily races for fully stock cars... But I get it that if credits are more scarce, it becomes an irritant... In the old days, with sellable prize cars, money was a plenty...

[@Dhern1212]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing…I thought everyone had the GT6 mentality but people got use to GTsport. I knew this walking in lol

[@Kireth]

LOTS of people have commented on my videos showing it isn't clear to them

[@Dhern1212]

@@Kireth yeah I can totally see that. The people that have played since gt1 will get it but others are like “what?”….and it’s gonna get worse due to real $$$…everyone will think it’s a money trap but it’s normal

[@tonynittoli4792]

Not being able to sell almost seems a deliberate way of inconveniencing you to the point of either grinding credits if you have the time or spending money for credits. Cash shops in video games has ruined gaming for many of us old timers who remember what is was like for a one time purchase. I’ll still play because going outside isn’t what it used to be.

[@Dhern1212]

@@tonynittoli4792 this is totally true tho! Once I saw that you couldn’t sell cars, I already knew what was going on.

[@choocharoo]

Personally I have 10 cars I drive setup for different scenarios. Thought this was the norm. Who brings a Porsche to a low hp race circuit. Great video making your point but just feels the game wants you to have numerous rides. Not 1 car you bring in everywhere .

[@GranTigerGaming]

This makes sense but I really hope BoP races will return on a regular basis, I'd be ok with this old school approach as long as there is also some level of BoP daily races to satisfy that GT Sport flow.

[@Beefyst]

just installing GTS again on my ps5, dont like online in GT7. singleplayer is awesome

[@GROGU123]

I’m guessing third daily race will be BOP. I think for the first week, they wanted to force people into tuning and getting used to it. Lots of people on GT Planet and youtube are posting tuned cars. In a few more weeks, all the popular cars will be tuned well and openly available. So tuned races are fine.

[@GranTigerGaming]

@@GROGU123 Yeah I like the tuned races, Im also assuming it was forced for testing and getting players used to the concept, guessing its just a slow start and eventually there will be a mix of tuned and BOP races, both of which are great.

[@GranTigerGaming]

@@Beefyst Yeah I kept GTS installed, though I think they do plan to shut down servers eventually, sooner than later.

[@GROGU123]

@@GranTigerGaming I agree, there’s literally no reason to have that third race blank like it is now. Other than to get people used to tuning. There’s a huge number of racers, so plenty to split into a third race activity.

[@marisis69]

Surly everyone knows that if you put new parts on your engine you can’t take them off? You have replaced working parts actually inside the engine. You can remove parts that you bolt ON to your engine and car.

[@PS5GamingHub1986]

Was thinking the same. If you increase the displacement/stroke on a real life engine it’s not like you can take that away. Bolt ons are one thing, but internals are another. It would be nice if you could take out said engine and put it aside though (like the Forza games) rather than buy a new standard engine every time to tune accordingly.

[@Kireth]

Not everyone has your experience, have a look at the comments I put in the video 👍

[@marcianzero_yt]

Thanks to the Kireth Kart Channel. ;)

[@Kireth]

No problem!

[@Dwade-nk9wc]

Thanks for the heads up! I have yet to make this mistake because I have pretty much just started the game. I am sure you just saved me a LOT of credits.

[@Kireth]

Enjoy the game!

[@tonymonthana22]

BRO!!! I’m glad you pointed that out!!! I have purchased a couple of cars and done this just to see if I was NOT tripping!!

[@Kireth]

No worries!

[@lornjohnson3039]

It makes sense because for instance if you stroke the engine your displacement increases so initially that's a different engine.

[@Kireth]

True, but it's not explained

[@Dekamerx]

@@Kireth When you're installing those upgrades it states that these are permanent upgrades and cannot be undone though.

[@f.o.8547]

@@Kireth 'Learn More' is right there tbf though.

[@MorrWorm8]

Great video man. Your channel is definitely the best GT7 channel out there hands down.

[@Kireth]

Wow thanks man! More videos on the way

[@MisterSouji]

This goes with weight reduction as well, adding weight with ballasts can only counter weight restrictions so much. If you have a car with weight reduction and engine tuning and use ballasts and power restriction to lower its hp and weight to the same as before, it will have a good chunk more pp. This also works in reverse, you need to reduce the power and weight even more to get it back to the same pp it was before.

[@Buckbeak67]

Just a thought, buy 2 cars. 1 tuned, 1 not tuned 😁

[@LOOKINVERTED]

Have never arrived at the situation of having to buy a new engine as of yet (did wonder what the point was) but it would seem this issue you describe, for the most part, will impact NA platforms given most of your horsepower gains come from engine internals. Don't know if you've experimented with it yet but I'd wager the output thresholds for aspirated engines (provided by the power restrictor and ballast) probably reduce into the appropriate power output & PP brackets most of the time (since switching an upgraded turbo package is the quickest way to reduce a good chunk of your bhp & PP which'll give you much more leeway)? Anyway, appreciate the explanation of what the fresh engine is all about but you're right, it makes sense to be able to at least keep the original engine you've spent so many credits on - seems harsh to have to lose it completely when replacing.

[@uspnightfire115]

You missed the point of also needing a new body if you do the weight savings 1-4 which also can't be removed. That makes the cost much higher. Better off buying another copy of the car and keeping it relatively stock depending on the original cost of the car.

[@paulinadeluca9117]

Exactly, that’s the best idea so far with this issue. Buy a duplicate vehicle

[@uhahSpronx]

can you get gifted/win a second car? like GTS where you could have multiple of the same car then have stock on one and tuned on the other?

[@Kireth]

Think I have a few but not sure

[@TheSimpleSuperior1]

Hey I have a question about tuning. I bought the Bugatti Veyron 16.4 '13. I bought all the upgrades in the tuning shop that raised its PP. I feel like I messed it up somehow. It feels like it changes gears too fast and abruptly while driving. To restore the body it costs 2.4 million. I’m not sure what to do.

[@ThEgamingGINJ]

your top speed or final gear ratio might be to low

[@TheSimpleSuperior1]

@@ThEgamingGINJ Thanks for the tip! I realized you cant modify the engine for the bugatti so its possible to remove most of the parts.

[@alt2484]

Everyone knows this, the thing is they aren't wrong about the just use a ecu, it is just they don't know that you couldn't get the bhp that low without changing the engine because they don't know the car so they don't know what is the lowest you can tune the car.

[@garygilmore2050]

I tuned my GTR and went to test it at Route X on a offline custom race and the tune changes to a BoP and I can't undo it. Anyone Help ? Thank you

[@Kireth]

Not sure but can always buy a new car!

[@garygilmore2050]

@@Kireth will try that thank you

[@robertandrewsiii7096]

question, has anyone ever bought a car then immediately go make a duplicate of the vehicle factory tune settings? Then use the saved duplicate settings and purchase what you want and work from that. Then duplicate the original settings again to try a student set up . Keeping the original factory settings untouched & only making duplicates of it. This seemed to work for me and it took a second to realize it.

[@Kireth]

Not following 🤯

[@robertandrewsiii7096]

@@Kireth For instance, buy a car brand new. Immediately go to edit the car's setting. But don't change the setting, just edit the name as stock or whatever you like. Then make a copy of that setting = Copy: stock. Before buying any new parts or upgrades make sure you are on the Copy: stock setting before you buy. Now after you buy upgrades and added parts the Copy: stock should reflect those upgrades and added parts. But when you select the regular stock setting it should have everything removed as a saved setting. If I'm not mistaken it seems to work from me trying it at least. I just make copies of the stock and tinker with editing different iteration settings to match certain specs or race qualification criteria. Hopefully that makes better sense, and hopefully it is something that works.

[@BossStar]

fun tip.. instead of backing out thru all the menus you can press start and go directly to the world map from nearly all menus..youre welcome..

[@Kireth]

🤯

[@King_Ears]

Pretty common sense this tbh

[@vstrolis]

@Kireth Kart, I've noticed that on some cars after buying a turbo tuning (for example: Audi R8 4.2 '07) TURBO BOOST GAUGE is NOT WORKING or BOOST pressure in turbo is -1 bar (minus 1 bar!). Can you explain why it shows Negative pressure in turbo on some cars in Gran Turismo 7?

[@Kireth]

I don't know I'm afraid, seems weird

[@vstrolis]

​@@Kireth I figured out that negative pressure is only when release throttle or shift gears and it's ok. But maximum boost 0.01 bars it's not ok. It's even very hard to notice sucha small boost and I all the time was thinking that turbo is not working at all. My thoughts are if in same Audi R8 4.2 (727bhp with high-rpm turbo) to make turbo pressure 1+ bar that will more than 1000+ bhp car.

[@Kireth]

Hmmmm

[@oliverplagious9210]

Thanks I hope they fix this by increaseing the amount you can derestrict or remove the parts. Do you think they will change the money farming race the 1 lap race for 45k if so ill try to farm it fast.

[@222tg_]

Which race is that?

[@oliverplagious9210]

Kireth did a video on it its in the Americans its 1 lap of a oval takes 4.5 minutes but gets you 30k + 50% bonus for a clean race so 45k gets over 500k an hour

[@Kireth]

I'd be surprised if they tweaked the farms

[@DJMixtApe808]

I personally don't see it as something requiring a fix. there's a sense of realism to it, the items that can't be 'removed' are ones which would be irreversible in real life. I'd see it as an issue if there was only one car that could top the podium, but there are plenty of ways to win any given race and I don't think these untunable parts are ever really the only option. in an absolute worst case scenario - when you really really want to use a specific car for a specific race and you have already bought these parts, AND, you have only a tiny amount of credits - you're probably looking at about 30 mins single player time to get enough credits to either buy a new engine or new version of the car. it doesn't feel too much of a hindrance to me if I'm honest. given monetisation is a way for developers to offer a longer shelf-life of a game with DLC, then personally I am comfortable with it being there. it still remains a choice whether to use real-world money, albeit I do recognise that companies invest lots of cash into psychology to try and beef up in-game purchases, so it's naive to assume no-one ever gets exploited unfairly with these things

[@kirion111]

I just started playing this game but i was wondering why there is only 1 map as daily race why they don't add more maps for a daily race it s kinda boring always having to run the same one.

[@Kireth]

New race coming on Monday and we'll have a guide on this channel

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

Just buy the car twice. One stock and one tuned. 😉

[@churr0boy]

those tuning options are actually useless on that car. so someone who knows tuning wouldn't even think of buying them, you can get that 20extra horses without giving it 20 extra horses although you would have to change your driving style, the speed will still be the same as adding all those parts and from what I see, the game has so much tuning options that it won't ever be a problem

[@Harmonic14]

Not true. The power restrictor changes your power curve, so buying parts to end up on the ideal power curve while meeting restrictions is how you make the car as fast as possible for the event.

[@churr0boy]

@@Harmonic14 I haven't said a thing about power restrictors mf and if you are a good enough driver you won't have to max out your car just fucking enjoy the game

[@Kireth]

No need to be abusive 👍 I also had no idea what your first comment was about

[@churr0boy]

@@Kireth waste

[@joestewart5406]

You can go back n fourth to between power restriction and ecu. They take away power differently, ecu will lower the peak power while the restrictor will limit rpm and will change your power band, therefore changing your shift times and makings you slower. It’s best to wait to add any engine upgrades other then exhaust and intake and turbo until you’ve got everything else and need the extra power.

[@604idan]

I havent checked, but do you get doubles of cars like in gt sport? If so could one car be tuned and one stock?

[@Visual_Ghoul]

Can this not be counteracted with Ballast?

[@Kireth]

BHP?

[@Visual_Ghoul]

@@Kireth doh, forgive me, yesterday was the first time i ate drank and slept since sat because of this goddamn throat infection.

[@Icky240]

Well duh. If you been playing GT your whole life you would know this. And this is how it is in real life too.

[@Kireth]

I know this. Lots of people don't. No need to flex on those people 👍

[@milanbaros2005]

Is there any parts you CAN fit, that you can down grade in the tuning mena. IE,a Racing part back to normal part.

[@Kireth]

Yep I show a few in this video

[@daveharris4755]

Can you not have sheet 1 , sheet 2 etc with different upgrades and set ups . I have 2/3 sheets per car

[@geraldrogers9481]

That's why you have different cars for different tunes and different races. Keep each car set at different levels..

[@wouldbegood]

Does tuning a car and then restricting it with the ecu mapping back to the old level improve performance?

[@photodave219]

Other anecdotal story. I was farming The GR.4 High Speed ring last night in a Supra, turned the engine down to 92% to make the pp. Was doing well but felt I could go faster. I Put the car back up to 100% and used ballast to bring the pp down to the limit. My times were lower by about a 1/2 second. Despite the added weight, I was hitting a higher top speed. I think detuning or restricting engine output might be the last thing I would want to do.

[@korenogamer6075]

Im still a big noob to this game, but I had a thought. Would it be possible, if the devs wanted, to add a feature that allowed you to have multiple engines for a car and switch between them when needed just like you can switch between tuning sheets?

[@korenogamer6075]

@mighty Faris You didnt listen. I said Buy a 2nd engine and switch between them as needed. Just like the tuning sheets.

[@Glukosekoenig]

is bhp (british horse power) the default value in your country? because in germany i have to struggle with kw (kilowatt) and i cant see an option to change it to horse power

[@Kireth]

Are you driving a EV?

[@Glukosekoenig]

@@Kireth no, in german version of gt7 all cars are calculated in kw. actually i'm surprised that you have bhp because i would love the change that into horsepower

[@sethlouden2529]

Yeah just like a real car crazy I like it Love the videos

[@Kireth]

Thanks man!

[@vimtobill4156]

I can see how ppl overlooked this. For me, from the time you go on the cars tuning screen it says installed on the far right. I took this instantly to me it can't be undone. That's why you have new engine as a option. I get around this by using a car set up particularly for that race.

[@Kireth]

Yep

[@andyc5612]

Again you are correct. You can’t remove some parts. So either you buy more than one car and set them up for different races, expensive but possible. Or they put out an option to allow you to have different engines for one car or they let you have a big parts list and you just pick what parts you want on the car for that race, as you do for real race cars. They have different set up sheets but they still don’t take care of the unremovable engine parts or body mods. Like all new games, things need a tweak here or there. GT 7 is still an improvement over 6 but disappointing we are possibly looking down the pay to win barrel like we did in some other titles.

[@Kireth]

Let's see if they tweak it!

[@sm0k1e123]

The description on the parts tells you you cannot remove them and to be sure you want them be buying/installing..

[@Dekamerx]

Nice video Kireth! I have a question though. What if I buy another engine and keep it stock(or close to stock, whatever will give me enough bhp for sport mode), can I then change between my beefed up engine and stock engine or does the beefed up engine just get discarded?

[@Kireth]

Discarded mate

[@mfallen6894]

This is why you buy two of every car, especially the really expensive ones like the Mclaren F1. You leave one stock/only with ECU/turbos/etc that can be removed. Then you have the "tuner" car where you up the displacement or adda racing crankshaft. Hell, I've got 5 '81 911 Turbo's in various setups, some with Wide Body, some with stock engines, one that has every engine upgrade possible. Having duplicate cars makes a lot more sense than buying a new engine or body given the cost of a new engine + body is the same as buying another car.

[@stephensmith6669]

You have a good point actually you have a great point this game is meant to be as realistic as possible the people saying that you can just detune it are the ones that do not modify their vehicles in real life it takes a lot of money and a lot of time to put on internal parts onto an engine you cannot just take them off whenever you feel like it it just doesn't work that way any supporting mods that you add on outside of the engine can always be taken off

[@stevecox5012]

Probably been said before (I don't have time to read the whole Internet), but same goes for weight reduction, it can't be undone. Similar restrictions have always been in place on early GT games, it's just the fact that they never had online play restricting entry to certain races. You just upgraded your Mitsi GTO to 900bhp+ and rinsed every AI player on Sunday Cup a million times to get the next upgrade.

[@Kireth]

Yep

[@ILLESTDIAMONDZ]

Fastest 800 PP car ???

[@thomasdmuchowski301]

Just like real life .. bolt on parts ..( turbos .. super chargers .. suspension can be swapped because they are in essence modular … Machining changes made to the engine such as bore size balanced components cannot be undone because they are actually changed in the motor and cannot be unchanged in real life … I am not sure why this would be a hard concept for anyone to grasp .. once u bore a cylinder out it’s never gonna shrink back … unless u sleeve it but that’s just splitting hairs … and sleeves in a race motor yea…..

[@Kireth]

What if you sleeve it tho

[@USMCKong0311]

For me I just treat engine & body upgrades as a last resort since I'm a free-to-play player.

[@dougtak39]

The next question is can you buy 2 of the same car (maybe distinguish them by livery) and have a fully upgraded version and a stock spec version? Or several of the same car?

[@MidnightMuzic]

Absolutely. I bought 3 Honda s800s for that exact purpose. One left stock, another with just bolt ons, and one more fully spec'd out. All my liveries for each of them show up across all of them on the selector in gt auto. Did the same thing with the s13 and the z33 too.

[@abztraktgaming]

You are 100% correct. Though its more realistic, it does help to nudge players more to microtransations as well.

[@nicolasclement7946]

DEAR Polyphony here is some suggestion: - We should be able to buy new engine but keeping the remplaced engine as an option(with its tuning parts as well). We could then choose between engines (charge for the swap I don't mind) - VGT are not road vehicule. I find it annoying to see that cyber car from the future is dominating the time tables while it doesn't even exist. - Please bring back datas from racing lobbies at the end of the race (fastest lap at least) - There should be 4 daily races (2 BOP and 2 with tuning) (what do you guys think?) - We should be able to sell cars to the used dealership. And the car inventary should rotate a bit faster... still waiting to find another R32 BESIDE THAT GAME IS SUPREME!! Love how the car physics were changed from GTSPORT to something a bit more realistic Your video will be useful, I learned that exact thing the hardway by overtuning an R32. I can't buy another one until it shows up in the used car.

[@THIS---GUY]

All I want is pylon as race markers for a tool for new drivers on a new track instead of these floating eye sores I see in videos. Agree with your engine comments about having inventory. You should be able to remove any engine and swap it. With no player market just put a hard cap on number of cars or in my case supras / rx7 I can buy for the 2jz engine lol

[@HARDHEAD7WD]

I was expecting him to buy the new engine and show that the engine upgrades get removed, I was just hoping there was a way to remove them Edit: Just checked, doing the “New Engine” upgrade removes all engine parts, still better than having to buy a new car for some cars

[@Citizen_zer0]

Hmmm you would think that this is kinda understood… if you perform engine mods like port polish, increase bore and stroke and any other internal engine modifications, they are not bolt on parts. You literally increase the the size of cylinders or the cylinder bore by milling metal out of the engine block. That’s a permanent change! To rectify the issue on a real car as well you would need a new engine block to go back to stock…. Maybe they can add like a pop up message/ warning in the game like this change/modification can’t be undone or removed, do you still want to perform this mod to the transaction before you ok it?

[@Kireth]

I understand it - point is a lot of people don't so the game isn't clear enough

[@thexspikes]

Just have two cars, one tuned, one only swappable parts. It should let you keep engines you take out, but as it stands, if I tuned the car up too much, I'll buy another over a engine which I lose my upgrades.

[@tegboy]

Makes perfect sense. How do people not get this. Of course you can remove bolt ones like in real life. And can’t remove engine internals….. like in real life. If you want and engine back to stock internal spec you need to rebuild or as in the case of GT, buy a new engine. It’s a great realistic detail

[@Kireth]

I understand it, point is a lot of people don't and this video is here to help 👍

[@GARNERS_GAMING]

126k to replace the motor and loose the 100k you put into it tuning, nah just buy a second car for 253k and leave it stock besides removable tuning parts. Then you have a car for low performance racing and high performance racing...

[@deadboy5401]

jesus

[@IX_GOODSPORT_XI]

Why can’t we put Turbo’s on non turbo cars Whyyyyyyy😭😭 like that porsche gt3 rs!

[@Moshins11]

Thats why you can buy multiple cars of the same type. Have them for different races and reasons. What about saving your data sheets at different stages of the upgrade and switch out your data sheets??

[@cliffparker69]

As with tuning in real life racing you tune the car by using aero and making the engine breathe and optimising what it has I've learned this with time trialing in a mini cooper and helping build it

[@EpiCz_Izzy]

TL:DR don’t spend credits on any engine tuning upgrades as the game even tells you that it cannot be undone.

[@optiononemarketing]

Can’t you add a ballast, increase weight, which would reduce both HP and PP?

[@Kireth]

Try adding ballast and see if it affects BHP, let me know 👍

[@stephanestaelens5914]

the clue is buy only tuning upgrades that you can remove. What would be the best way to tune a car?

[@vegaspaul9428]

Kireth 🙌 keep the tips and tricks coming! It truly helps us plebs!

[@Kireth]

Lots more coming!

[@nightdriver7216]

Usually you can downgrade the car low enough to return to original power. A GT3 RS at 295 bhp is an extreme case and might not even be the ideal car for the event. However, some upgrades shift your powerband. When upgrading engine with unremovable parts it's best to prioritize things like engine balance. A peaky engine can be fixed with restrictor, up to a certain point. When dropping weight it's a good idea never to buy weight reduction upgrades that drop more than 200 kg (max ballast value) unless the car needs the lower weight. Still, weight reduction is always useful because you can use ballast to rebalance the car (as you showed in another video).

[@scottn7cy]

Good tuning tips!

[@Kireth]

Thanks Scotty!

[@RicQuintanilla]

Yep. Those of us that work on Real Cars, totally understand...

[@tsten71]

Years ago some real race drivers had multiple cars. Geared and tuned specifically for certain tracks. If you really just love that specific car that much why not just buy another car and tune it for that track. You can have multiple cars of the same type.

[@Housecatblu]

This is why I have certain cars that i keep below a certain limit

[@rudedudester]

Swapping engine parts is permanent. You could take ECU out, but too much extra 'stuff' . Weight reduction/permanent, is costly to un-do (restore rigidity)

[@thewidowmaker4037]

The moment you bought the camshaft you went over the 295bhp limit for that race all you had to do was buy some Ballast even after all the upgrades you had bought had your 911 at 307bhp adding Ballast would have brought your 911 under if not right on the nose of 295bhp race entry limit. So you could have entered that race.

[@kreepieters8439]

You can add ballast, change tyres, etc.

[@petey9232]

Great vid. I'd also be curious to see how the power scales with the restrictor and more specifically the cpu. I have a feeling that restricting the power scales it down more and makes the car behave differently compared to, for instance, buying the removable parts and just taking them off and scaling down to a smaller degree. I detuned a 911 yesterday to 70-70 and the top end was non existent, even though the bhp wasn't particularly low. So I think for online it's best to avoid these irremoveable parts entirely.

[@Kireth]

I think we will end up buying more duplicate cars

[@petey9232]

@@Kireth yeh maybe. I assume none of the parts can carry across between duplicate cars?

[@Harmonic14]

Each power upgrade will affect your power curve. You want to build your car and adjust the restrictor so the power band is as wide and tall as possible.

[@scottkinsey1450]

Aerodynamics lower it but you are correct. I played with aeros and downforce and snuck in when i discovered this

[@pieterschut7438]

I think it’s a good thing you can’t undo the bore-up and polished ports upgrades, because you physically remove material from the engine. I think players should be able to remove the stroke-up and high compression pistons upgrades.

[@joshualewis4109]

Yeah I had the same issue with the classic Mini Cooper. I got it for free like everyone else but didn’t use it right way but I upgraded it for later on. Now I can’t do the club event in circuits for the mini unless I buy a new one because my current one is past the limits for the race. Also I can’t buy a new one because the car isn’t purchasable in the brand store you can only win it by doing the cafe events. Sucks but that’s life now I have to hope it pops up again in the used dealership.

[@Kireth]

Surely not 😳

[@nevvanclarke9225]

What is more concerning about this video is that you have four tickets on the roulette wheel and you have not open them seriously I get one and I go straight to it what’s the go with that LOL good video and it does make sense sometimes doing more gives you less and the two tuning in Gran Turismo is putting the right parts on the car to get what you need

[@Kireth]

I like saving them 😅

[@458DESTRO]

Unrelated but the S-10 license test seems a bit brutal after none of the time attacks feature wet track but then in 10 you’re faced with an old lemans porche on race hards and track that’s wet off the racing line… virtually guaranteed that you fail if you stray from the racing line at all instead of the punishment being that you’re slower around the lap. I haven’t even made it all the way around yet and I’ve tried it 13 times. All the others I got through in one or two goes but spa with wet track seems like it’s a bit unfair. Especially when the normal PlayStation 4 controller thinks that you’re applying 3/4 throttle when you only have the trigger depressed 1/2 of the way.

[@222tg_]

I noticed last evening that once you get max lvl weight reduction you never are able to go back to the original weight again unless you buy a new car (ballasts are only 200kg). But this one i didn't see coming, wow PD😐. Let's hope they never had intentions of doing daily races with HP restrictions but rather PP. And the way we remove parts either changes, or they start doing PP restrictions and not HP

[@mnap89]

you can buy new chassis instead of whole new car. Same thing like with the engine.

[@222tg_]

@@mnap89 oh my bad, completely missed that one. Good to know. Cheers

[@Kireth]

Credits fix everything!

[@seahawks1185]

You can detune tomahawk to below 600 pp, you can sure detune this, no matter what upgrades you have.

[@dma968]

This is a really unforgiving system for such a complicated mechanic in the game,kind of bs sure it doesnt seem so bad yet but three years down the line and i can see garages full of duplicate cars because you got the wrong tune

[@SSRT_JubyDuby8742]

I was discussing this along with all the other credit stealing things this game does with my missus last night. They really want you to buy credits and that is shameful, it seems that it is only about the money to them, this is how a franchise is killed. Like deployed 👍 😎🎙🏎✅

[@BeowulfGaming]

they want you to feel the need of buying credits via real money, for example you get an invite to buy an expensive car for 2,000,000 and its time limited, you kind of feel like you are missing out if you dont buy it, so you spend 15$ in case you dont have enough money and so on, there is more of these hidden hints and indicators gently forcing you to think about swiping your card

[@genericmodz]

I was thinking the same thing,they're doing what rockstar has done with gta5 all it does it drive people to do glitches to make money rather than actually making the payouts good in relation to the cars you can buy

[@Kireth]

Not sure many reviewers raised this 👍

[@Allaloneatron]

Lucky lady! 😉

[@DJMixtApe808]

@@BeowulfGaming I dunno, Beowulf. it's still a personal choice. personally I think there's enough credits available in normal gameplay, alongside prize cars to keep your garage ticking over. I can only think of a time or two in my gameplay so far when I've felt there's nothing in the garage that I could use to win a race or championship. the only times it has been an issue is with really specific races - e.g. I didn't have a Ford Raptor for a pickup only race. And stuff like that is pretty cheap. overall, though, I'd say the game is completely playable for all but really collectionists. it might be nice if they introduced a trade-in option for old cars, and the absence of this for me is the most glaring hint at monetisation. being able to sell cars you've no interest in driving would be a good way to top up the bank balance, and I'm sure you could do this in older, pre-monetisation, GT games. I can't see myself ever dipping my hand in my pocket to get a particular car. I don't mind that it's there if people want to use it, and I would assume that it'll help fund future content. that's a win for me, but I do get that a small minority of people who find collecting really hard to resist could be being exploited.

[@nazier6227]

What is the best Gr. Car I can get?

[@MrWayno79x]

You can’t remove the body widening kit either, should be able to reverse that at a cost rather than buy a whole new car.

[@salmark9080]

Ugh can someone explain this to me I’m new watched the video 3 times and will play around with it but don’t get it

[@adamnoer]

Thanks man. Yeah would be hard to de-bore an engine in real life! 😂

[@Kireth]

True 😅

[@gregcarswell1348]

I also received invitations to purchase some expensive cars but then won the same car. If I had accepted the invitation I would have wasted lots of credits. Keep up with your purchases so you don’t get doubles and wast credits.

[@Kireth]

Nice one!!

[@MrBarrow100]

After he change the setting back to normal. He never hit the triangle button to recalibrate the measurements. It will show you how much Hp the car has now. That’s what it’s there for.

[@Kireth]

?

[@orbitty1354]

You never buy those things even in older games. If you want an upgrade buy a supercharger or turbo. You can take those off.

[@orbitty1354]

I'm glad you can buy a new engine, gran turismo one or too when we made that mistake wr had to buy another car.

[@Kireth]

Er, what if you want to tune your car to the max 👍

[@orbitty1354]

@@Kireth Very true, however I do have one issue. And I hate this, I've been kicked out of lobbies for downtuning cars. They think it's O.P. Another issue is with the Lamborghini Mura, you grind to get the car and everybody kicks you out. I hate this new generation, they want fairness and participation medals. Hahaha

[@ricardortega00]

I did all the tuning on that GT3 rs and now it has way much more power than i can control, it will oversteer like crazy, i restrict power and will still oversteer even in a straight line and TC to 5, i fucked up my Porsche.

[@great-stuff-6688]

Well done

[@apokalypz]

I love GT7 but polyphony has gone mad with microtransactions I don't see myself playing this like I did GT Sport this is really good information thanks!

[@Kireth]

No problem, just trying to help people out!

[@THIS---GUY]

You could enjoy the entire game without spending money very easily

[@apokalypz]

@@THIS---GUY you really don't get it but I do so does most people some of the cars ar 20 million credits and it literally cost $20 usd to acquire 2 million credits and sure you could grind but now they added "invitational" cars which expire and if you don't buy that 15 million credit car in so many days it's gone forever supposedly. If that's not a smack in the teeth idk what is

[@THIS---GUY]

@@apokalypz it's been a single week and I've made 7 million just racing man lol in a few months if I play the same amount I will have tens of millions Why again do you need micro transactions? It's only for impatient people who want to unlock everything asap. Invitations come back you don't HAVE to buy it right away.