KISS Paul and Gene Interview Full

Full interview from 12-12-93 prior to Kiss taping for Dick Clark's New Years Eve 1994.

[@blakejohnson7148]

At 2:41 Paul says "any idiot can get a woman while they are on tour" and Gene raises his hand and looks at the camera as if to say "and I'm that idiot."

[@lrn_news9171]

lmao

[@lrn_news9171]

Paul was referring to Gene though, he was obviously taking a shot at him

[@wellgoodgravy]

Say what you want, but Gene smartened up after Paul put him in his place about answering every question with sexual exploitation.

[@jackspickphone6656]

Good point

[@dreamsessionsphotography2728]

Gene showed him whos the leader of the band

[@johnmcaleese8459]

@GIL Favor Yeah Gil, I have to say that these two guys are no dummies. Intelligent, well spoken men. And they mean business. Man did they find their niche and really made the most out of it BIG TIME. Not the best musicians by any means but damn, did they know how to market themselves.

[@TheGeorgiaRover]

Gene looks like Captain Caveman in this interview.

[@FuckThatYo]

@@dreamsessionsphotography2728 I Really think you mean Paul. At this point, Paul was the undisputed leader of KISS. After years of Gene splitting his efforts between KISS, and his Hollywood ambitions, which left Paul responsible for basically 100% of the band’s business, he let Gene know that the band was now his, and used be following the path of his choosing.

[@billyfan8305]

Paul just scored a few brownie points with me on this interview lol

[@Forzaabruzzo]

I think Paul just got fed up of having to swallow so much of Gene's big ego and self-centered attitude for so many years, and a bit of his frustration just slipped out in this interview. I applaud Paul for this! :)

[@highlighted_reply]

I love it. "Could you stop cutting me down in front of the camera?! I don't go for that ....." Paul's cool about it. Like OK, Gene, whatever you say!

[@subg8858]

I respect that

[@virgiljohnson9880]

Paul is the leader of KISS,,,,,NO one else could have done it

[@fang_uk]

Agreed. Paul was the glue that kept that ship afloat. Always was and always will be the classiest member of the group. Gene’s at the bottom of that particular gene pool - probably one of the reasons for his constant need to overcompensate for attention and approval.

[@dreamsessionsphotography2728]

Bullshit. Gene put him in his place qiick

[@elijones854]

*GENE

[@elijones854]

@@fang_uk no he ain't

[@johnmcaleese8459]

@@dreamsessionsphotography2728 No, I don't think so. Seamed to me, Gene backed off a bit speaking on his sexual conquests. We know Gene, your a rock star. You toured the world and had young, immature girls waiting for you backstage/hotel rooms. Not breaking news or uncommon. C,mon man. Smart and wealthy sure doesn't mean class comes with it.

[@jelouse25]

they look like they had a fight before this

[@MegaChristina1966]

I thought about that too...👍⭐🌹🎸🙏❤😋🦋✨

[@foxholiday4308]

You’re absolutely right man, Paul is standoffish right from the beginning like they’ve been fighting

[@wxsuperman38]

They look like a married couple that just had a fight...paul is the sarcastic wife and gene is the husband that's angry with the sarcastic wife...lol

[@michaelpeuplie6464]

Apparently in an interview a few years ago, he said that he and Gene didn't really speak during the early 90s. The only time they spoke was after an earthquake to make sure one another were ok and then went back to not speaking lol.

[@mikes.6751]

It’s on here. Gene stops the interview and confronts Paul.

[@spec4army810]

I just realized that this interview was filmed beside the stage of a taping for Dick Clark's New Years Rockin' Eve 12/12/1993 at Disney's Pleasure Island, Orlando, Florida. My brother and I were there for the taping and got to see the band up close. They were great and saw no tension between Gene and Paul. They are very professional when on the stage. Great Era for Kiss.

[@wozzer2727]

I always like Paul, he may moan a bit but he seems like a decent bloke.

[@michaelgraham9774]

Paul was probably tired of Gene making them look like a joke and couldn't care less about making Gene look bad on camera

[@mrfrogbutt1]

Damn, Paul BODY SLAMMED Gene HARD!!!!!!!!!

[@dreamsessionsphotography2728]

Yea but Gene owned his bitch boy quicker

[@dutchvanderlin7185]

@@dreamsessionsphotography2728 actually ace and peter said paul basically runs the band while genes the speaker.

[@PoffyTheCucumber]

Re-watched the "tension" bit, and it's amazing that BOTH of them are Real Men about it. Gene doesn't take shit--and tells Paul so--and Paul refuses to demean himself by even arguing about it; though you can see his face get squirmy, he doesn't succumb to petulance and just keeps saying, "Go on." Phew! That's disturbing how far above us Puny Humans these guys are. I think Paul has heard Gene's "baby" story 100 times too often...

[@peterjonas4971]

Paul doesn't seem to get squirmy. He's completely chill. I'm glad to know that Paul has been running the show all these years. Gene can be a clown.

[@mr.brenman2132]

​@@peterjonas4971 Paul is no sweet heart all the time. They deserve each other.

[@subg8858]

Nobody’s perfect. The fact they have maintained their partnership for so long is admirable and shows they both have good communication skills, considering their personalities are pretty different

[@aliceborealis]

Starting @2:37, that bit between Gene and Paul was the realest and most human thing I ever saw KISS do.

[@patrice1345]

Strange relationship they have there.

[@maxxxmodelz4061]

I actually liked all the answers Paul gave here. I like that he really gave some credit to other bands, especially going back to the real start of Rock N Roll, which is The Blues. Elvis and The Beatles were of course influences, but guys like Muddy Waters influenced ALL of them.

[@subg8858]

Rock n roll was a synthesis of many kinds of music not just blues

[@jmc235]

There was something going on between them before that interview... You could see it on Pauls face..

[@demonslayer2750]

jmc235 Definitely agree! Seems they had a spat before the interview starts

[@damonwillis3672]

As much as Paul can be a whiney dick and he certainly can be one.....he always tried hard to get Kiss some respect from their peers. As most of us know Kiss took and still take alot of shit from people who don't like their music. Paul deep down wants to be taken seriously as an artist. In some respects maybe Gene did too....but he got caught up big-time in the whole rockstar womanizer thing. Which can get old really fast as you can see in Paul's face here.

[@sepulmattica7649]

Paul knew exactly what he was doing lol

[@lorelevante]

Why do you say that?

[@johnmcaleese8459]

@@lorelevante I think Paul let what Gene had to say go in one ear and out the other. He continued the interview by basically taking over the answers to the rather amateur questions. It wasn't all about himself. THANKFULLY.

[@lrn_news9171]

@@lorelevante Because it's obvious and If I was in Paul's place it would have occurred to me that what I was saying applied to Gene and that it would piss him off. And if I was Gene, I would have thought that Paul was taking shots at me.

[@standarddef8769]

3:01 LOL Paul gives Gene that look, Paul acts and sounds like a pissed off wife

[@stanknugget]

Adam Lenhardt You’re right! He does look like your wife!

[@lorelevante]

I thought the same

[@maxxxmodelz4061]

Yeah, but Paul made the most sense here. Gene wasn't taking it seriously and I think Paul actually wanted to seem deeper for a change. Keep in mind, this was 1993. The music landscape had begun to really shift toward more serious, thoughtful rock music. Bands like Nirvana, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains and Pearl Jam were outselling Kiss big time, and I think Paul wanted to start taking the music and the interviews more seriously like those guys were. Gene, on the other hand, was still living in the 80s and the party lifestyle, which had fallen out of favor at that time.

[@creepshowcrate]

I love that line from Paul at the beginning, "Yeah, there's two ugly guys in front of the camera. We have a video problem." Haha, that's great. I remember that quite often, and laugh to myself.

[@manolokonosko2868]

It looks like they were already pissed off at each other and in a foul mood even before the cameras started rolling.

[@LennysComet]

after 20 years paul gets tired of gene's schtick

[@DREAMZ_SMOKE]

Paul Stanley is a good guy 💜

[@jonstreng7850]

Very cool interesting interview. Began with a little tension but smoothly handled. Nice to hear a interview later in their career.

[@ciadella1971]

Gene cuts down ppl all the time on camera....obviously he doesn't like it when it's done to him.

[@rkish1969]

Paul runs Kiss not Gene There's the proof Peter Criss was right

[@fang_uk]

Classic narcissism.

[@johnmcaleese8459]

@@rkish1969 What did Peter Criss have to say ??!!

[@rkish1969]

@@johnmcaleese8459 That's exactly what he told Eddie Trunk

[@AttentionAllBirds]

Paul Stanley is such a genuine individual. He has such a great heart.

[@ToruKun1]

This is really uncomfortable, it's like watching your parents fight.

[@gacharockstar2017]

Mom..? Dad..?

[@TumblingDicE8]

Paul is mom gene is dad.

[@starionpatrol]

As much as I hate awkwardness, it's so great to watch these two ultra-narcissists turn against eachother for ONCE. Props to Paul for calling bullshit, though.. I wonder what kind of rock star/person he could've been if he didn't have to deal with Gene (I know, I know, there would be no Kiss without Gene).

[@subg8858]

I love awkwardness that’s why I watch kiss interviews in the first place😂

[@dawnplumlee8388]

PAUL I LOVE YOU AND YOU HAVE A GREAT HEART AND YOU STAY THAT WAY THAT IS WHAT MAKES YOU SO DANG SPECIAL LOVES!

[@maryanncampbell3422]

I agree Dawn

[@robby1969]

Brothers do fight, it's normal!

[@SuperWannabeGuitar]

i like the way pauls serious and gene not and when paul says the joke about clothes gene gets serious

[@vincelee6247]

It's clear that Paul is running the show. But i do like the way Gene pretends that he's that badass.. lol.. Paul ain't putting up with it ..

[@Justentime77]

You can tell that Paul has complete contempt for Gene!

[@kuriaki71]

i love this era of kiss during the revenge tour

[@stephenborkowski7597]

Paul and Gene deserve all the fame and money they have. All you haters don't go away mad, just go away

[@rocsaltjohn]

Paul after Genes answer of "a baby"...."Oh boy!"

[@SteveC935]

Paul's always believed in the group and the love of the music and the support of the fans, and Gene's been more concerned about the group's image and having his own fun in between. There were times when a collision had to occur in order to clear the air.

[@fang_uk]

If not for Paul, the group wouldn’t have made it past the early 80’s. That guy is the glue that held it all together and he should be given more credit by people in my opinion.

[@dimebagdave77]

i agree with Paul 110% but i love it when Gene says "i don't go for that sh*t."all the best bands are somewhat driven by the turmoil of different personalities.KISS is no exception.

[@MrManfly]

seems like it's that way for a lot of older bands like Kiss, Aerosmith, Pink Floyd....they play together because it's business and makes them money, but they don't hang out after the shows and when they aren't on tour.

[@MERCURYSUNSET]

Like an old married couple

[@Bludegeon]

Man , some serious tension between these two.Thanks for posting.

[@rocsaltjohn]

Paul was having a bad tour. Gene was being..."Gene". Paul was obviously not having it this tour.

[@theirongreek3408]

Frank Patek I remember seeing them in Toronto and they had sound and lighting issues I think it was the 3rd show on the tour . Paul came out as the miserable Fuck he is and cried blah blah we are tired havnt slept in x amount of days he is and always will be a dick to his fans. And Iam probably the biggest Paul fan out there . just calling a spade a spade

[@jimmykrackkorn4347]

@@theirongreek3408 i was at that same show and they kicked ass.

[@theirongreek3408]

@@jimmykrackkorn4347 Oh god I never said they didn't. This is when they were untouchable both on stage and in studio the only better non make up show was when they played CNE and obliterated White Snake on the H.I.T.S tour that was unreal.

[@javtimestwo]

This is from Dec 1993. Kiss did not tour this year. They were reduced to club appearances to promote their Home Video release that year.

[@rocsaltjohn]

@@javtimestwo Club shows are technically tours but that could be another reason he's so tired of Gene's game. They somewhat struggled at that time.

[@drummerkid71]

they're best friends...like brothers.

[@janetyovonnestuckey2282]

LOL. GENE raises his hand MAY I CAN I SAY SOMETHING!!!!

[@gacharockstar2017]

3:01 my mom when she’s given up trying to persuade me not to do something stupid so she just waits for me to get in trouble

[@philipdefibaugh5683]

Paul seemed annoyed throughout, Gene for him, another day at the office.

[@louisborselio8608]

These questions are so lame. And to make matters worse they're so poorly asked.

[@javtimestwo]

C'mon, this is for ABC. Softball questions are expected

[@jonthomas8569]

And they're still playing together and friends after all these years. It goes to show even the closest buddies can have a moment. They probably talked about it a little more after, and got over it.

[@kingdavid1226]

Paul Stanley is KISS since day 1 he wanted to play rock and has always been in it to win it.

[@theirongreek3408]

King David Paul was kiss but Ace and Gene were the fan Favorires fragile egos prevailed and they pushed Peter and Ace out not once but twice. Ace was stealing the show once again .. Reunion and farewell tour he kicked ass psycho circus ..the last leg he was on his game .. I was never a fan of the original band ..lick it up was when it started but after seeing the 4 originals it was undeniable magic

[@rongravy]

ha, paul and gene are like a pissed off couple. look at their eyes.

[@tesscamilleri5552]

Paul isn't happy with Gene

[@esdlcmex146]

That's right way to go Paul. The way he puts Gene in his place and Paul didn't even acknowledge Gene and the questions were being ask. but Gene was looking at Paul like i'm sorry Paul lol

[@fmbighair]

VERY well said.

[@petabulmer7345]

Quick, somebody help Gene! Paul bruised his massive ego!

[@juanpuerto737]

Love this, hilarious!

[@jeffersonkane758]

the early 90s was a trippy time

[@davidnovatka3346]

Gene came from being poor and struggling. Saw what his mom went through. Never ever wants to go back. Totally understandable.

[@fang_uk]

Irregardless, that doesn’t excuse anyone from being a complete dick and not reading the room.

[@davidzabel5195]

@@fang_uk Not reading the room? The interviewer was practically spoon feeding them questions to be answered the way Gene did.

[@felixthelmocevallosmorales41]

Stanley Bert Eisen 20 de enero de 1952 71 años Singer and lead guitar PLAYER of Kiss.

[@wickedcurve]

@mrbuster1964 I really never took it as Paul ribbing Gene. It was just a general statement in explaining what was important and what wasn't. So without Paul intending so, Gene obviously took the statement that Paul made very personally. If Gene would've just stood there and not said anything, the general public never would've put the one and one together. Now on the other hand, this may've very well been a private topic between the two and when Paul said it, Gene took the bait...

[@fang_uk]

I believe these are outtakes, not what was eventually broadcast.

[@lrn_news9171]

He was totally taking a shot at Gene

[@Blueracer]

Thanks for posting this. The other one wasn't working for me.

[@dirtyworks13]

Buddy Guy! Howlin' wolf, Robert Johnson! Paul is right R&R is taken from the blues!

[@ec8791]

That’s what professionalism looks like.

[@mattlortz6026]

It's hilarious to watch Paul smash Gene. He's totally showing what a douche Gene is when he's trying to act cool. Gene does a turn around real quick. Paul put him in his place.

[@dadblair]

everybody fights and gene does get full of himself and so do most people in that life and its good for paul to reel gene in from time to time.

[@PoffyTheCucumber]

Wow! The tension was palpable. They never looked at each other, except for when Gene chastised Paul for undermining him. NEVER seen this side of their relationship before, and I've seen TONS of interviews, backstage stuff, etc. Just goes to show how carefully their media has been doctored over the years, never to have anything like this surface. But now it has and it does kinda give me a bad feeling in my guts.

[@thomasfleig1780]

I actually think they are really close. Even the closest friends fight from time to time who love each other. The biggest fights I've had were with my closest friends. I don't think they would have stayed together for 40+ years if they didn't care about each other.

[@fmbighair]

ehh, I see what you mean about body language and crossed arms but I don't think it's true in this instance. I cross my arms very often in public and sometimes when listening to a live band. It's because I'm insecure or don't want to be there, its just that its a naturally comfortable position.

[@ianhitman]

there like a married couple

[@henmat3000]

Gene joked about a baby, but Paul was pissy that day. 🤣

[@jamesvisser6606]

Imaginary babies. Lmao!

[@paintbynight]

Ha! They definitely deserve each other.

[@henryheinzjunker8807]

love you so much - hello from switzerland

[@Stefan.X.]

The ramones did massive numbers around South America too. But no "army escort" lol, just a van and thousands of fans running after them leaving their hotel smacking the little van they're in

[@wickedcurve]

When I initially watched the interview I thought Gene took it out of context when Paul said, 'Any idiot can get laid on tour'. I may have to watch it again and see if I was right. I just think Gene read into that too much and took it personally.

[@lrn_news9171]

I think Paul intentionally took shots at Gene lol

[@RobertoCarmona13]

well on those years (1993-1994) Gene and Paul almost disbanded KISS when the were recording Carnival Of Souls, the songs were recorded in separated, too bad, and in 1995 THEY REUNITED STILL TO EARLY by the way, this video... ...SO AKWARD!!!...

[@MrWalto69]

Don't get me wrong i love Kiss, but you can tell 2:37 by looking at genes face he knows pauls telling the truth and also at 1:55 paul saying "oh boy" as in " great another lie about women , i love Paul his always been about the music and didnt rant on like gene does about women and shit like that , most of the time when a person says they bone alot of chicks its all full of shit just saying Gene ;)

[@PerpetualArt]

Iscome , Paul may be right, but I have heard Paul make stupid comments like, if your hot and at a Kiss concert, you might end up with a star in your crotch... Either way my biggest point here is, don't throw your bandmate under the bus!

[@THECLARENCES]

The Clarences love & support Kiss!

[@janfrater935]

Gene grew up being totally spoilt by his mum; Paul got no support from his parents and so had to look after himself. I really think you can see this when Gene tries to engage the interviewer in the argument as though he's saying, ' Mom he's picking on me' but Paul just gets on with it. Go Paul ! ! You're fab. xx (btw I do like Gene too ).

[@Alexandria87]

And soon after he stands next to Paul pouting 🤣🤣🤣

[@hellbenderdesign]

Paul: 'Any idiot can get girls' Gene: _...he must be talking about me_

[@kingdavid1226]

I gave my clothes willingly, priceless.

[@markwoodard1975]

My you could just feel the tension

[@spike14501]

I'm glad Paul puts Gene down. Gene deserves it.

[@benjur666]

Paul has class reminds me david kee roth they have the right answere for every question

[@subg8858]

I have never understood what people mean when they something like 200,000 coming to your concert is humbling. Or being named MVP or winning an oscar. How in the world is that humbling? I guess I’ll never know

[@wickedcurve]

I wonder why Paul is requesting neither himself or Gene to not look at the camera. Also it seems in any interview, and I've met Paul once in person, he always stands there talking with his arms crossed...

[@fang_uk]

I’ve always preferred when interviewees answer questions off camera rather than breaking the 4th wall. Feels more intimate, looks more professional and I genuinely believe people pay more attention to what is being said.

[@ShakeyHeadLute]

The questions this guys asks are just inane.

[@LastSunrise1981]

I think what Gene was more angry about was being personally insulted in front of people and on camera. Doubt it would have been an issue if Paul waited until the cameras were off in making his point.

[@joescout]

Paul almost loses it i like gene but Paul is the heart of kiss

[@MrOmaro74]

It's me BOB!

[@epaulk1969]

Le Professeur -- I thought that sounded a bit made up. Gene, born as Chaim, and his brother Bob.

[@Acekicken]

Yeah Gene got made but the fact is rather than Bottle it up & explode later,he maked the live & said it to Pauls Face not to a Magazine.

[@theblitz8]

"Two ugly guys in front of the cameras, got some video problems"ROFL

[@restoreamerica1558]

Pretty clear way the band couldn’t stay together. Two many egos. I can see why Ace had to go! No room for Ace and Paul on this ego trip! Even though the money must be tempting, I can see why Ace would rather do his solo gigs. Gene & Paul are the most alike in personality, but Ace and Paul were there own people which gave the band character, but that couldn’t survive in this environment. All the old interviews with Ace were fun and exciting. But the stage did not allow for more. I’m sure the ones after got paid way less and had to shut up and tow the line.

[@blakelomba3469]

Proves paul is the boss

[@stanknugget]

Blake Lomba Proves you are a freak.

[@RobertoCarmona13]

@MrManfly yeeah, too bad, it happens in all bands, also The Rolling Stones and The Doors

[@manifestgtr]

If gene hadn’t become a musician, I have this feeling he’d be wearing a dress made out of skin with some husky girl screaming “hey, mister…I have your dog!” in his basement pit. He’s just such a disturbed looking human being…

[@kirazinn]

Paul should never say he's ugly. He so beautiful. ❤❤❤ Just say Gene ugly😂

[@amyjohnson6237]

😂😂😂😂

[@fifimsp]

Yeah, Paul isn't ugly. I think he's a little different looking but not ugly. Gene...goblin.

[@maurimachicao1772]

wtf? Gene was only acting silly just as Paul did in the 80's. This time I'd go for Gene.

[@lrn_news9171]

This was 1993

[@lukesage1723]

I felt bad for paul because gene got in his face :( I LOVE PAUL STANLEY XXX

[@1badjesus]

THEY'RE BROTHERS... Brothers argue.

[@MegaChristina1966]

Paul is getting bored....Gene takes a wile....😋✨😅🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@arwestromen]

they looked pissed

[@vladmorten]

I think It's a dagger (or something like that)