Thank goodness Leo reviewed this instead of AI. Ai will never be able to replicate Leo. Ever.
@dreschaffhausen5693Ай бұрын
Copilot 🤣
@GameBacardiАй бұрын
One youtube site already "borrowed" @JeffGeerling voice in they videos without his permission. All that talk was generated by AI.
@pixelrefresh348Ай бұрын
@@dreschaffhausen5693 Copilot. It's the Zune of AI 😂
@panjak323Ай бұрын
Joke's on you. He is AI generated
@panjak323Ай бұрын
Joke's on you. He is AI generated
@drewnewbyАй бұрын
I'm more interested in the USB power meter than the laptop, this might be a cause for concern amongst Qualcomm marketing executives.
@samshawn4887Ай бұрын
Leo - never replaced by AI !!!
@antonjoantonjo5719Ай бұрын
That bandwidth is amazing theyve got something special going on there.
@luigi8210Ай бұрын
I think having one of these if you are wealthy as a second laptop is the best way to go about it. Figure out what you can use remotely and use the battery life
@blurandomnumberАй бұрын
Cinebench-wise, R23 is x64-only and entirely emulated on win/arm64 via Prism. Cinebench 2024 has an arm64 version, but you need to deliberately download that -- the app cannot figure out the host arch on its own.
@Alex-pc2gtАй бұрын
That intro was hilarious. Maybe copilot could have used AI to fix it from spelling out the name of the actual platform its using. Thats my key takeaway
@Unizuka14 күн бұрын
windows on Ayaram haha
@SchwartzMarvalАй бұрын
Nice review Leo, always honest, thanks!
@parker3715Ай бұрын
I like Leos reviews, always tells it like it is - just surprised that AI seems to not have developed much since they announced it. Even the copilot+ response was just voice to text from some stupid website
@lucasw4766Ай бұрын
The next year will see if AI use cases on a laptop makes even any sense. So many tech things end up as fads for the mainstream consumer
@vicomilano6417Ай бұрын
Life is just so complicated now, AI can be used for the good, but so much of it right now is utter nonsense
@riccardo9280Ай бұрын
Thanks Leo, I can safely say I think we should just stick with Intel and AMD for the time being unless you use office or something similar and need max battery life on the go
@jameskane6273Ай бұрын
Its a solid looking laptop, the screen looks a bit flat in the video, and its expensive for what you get
@jamey89k83Ай бұрын
Thanks Leo, good review, seems like one to hang fire on until at least the gen 2 laptops in 2025 or 2026 - I want to see if they continue to support it
@EvaMorris3718-g2zАй бұрын
Thanks for another great review Leo! :)
@leydguitaristАй бұрын
Battery life is great, but seems they still have a lot of teething issues to deal with. That said, ive had a google pixelbook for years and still use it for some things
@xBINARYGODxАй бұрын
"a lot"
@leydguitaristАй бұрын
@@xBINARYGODx
@Blake846Ай бұрын
I am actually excited to see how things go with AI in the next two years - once they figure out how to do hands, arms and feet and eyes, it might have a chance of fooling people
@MalTon-ip9usАй бұрын
Got to love the battery life you get out of ARM.
@jamey-pl4ezАй бұрын
If you buy a laptop for AI just now you are mad in the head, its not even a platform yet - like Apple AI and iPhone 16’s - not even out yet
@UnitedAlgorit-el4hyАй бұрын
really not as bad as I thought, I had imagined this would be a horror story. At the end of the day if you are only using it for light case scenarios it will be fine - some general office stuff, emails., web browsing, you tube. but for similar money you might get very similar battery life from one of the new AMD CPU's. shame it wasnt compared, but with all the variables I appreciate its tricky
@xBINARYGODxАй бұрын
wrong, there are other channels who have done strenuous work on it, and it was fine - but your free to treat the current stuff like the stuff from 5 years ago. Also, many issues can be traced to the maker of the kaptop and what settings they default to for bios and whatever sku of windows they ship with. Alex Ziskind has great videos on it - and I find a lot of the coverage otherwise to be unfortunate by comparison
@grayson8414Ай бұрын
I like this laptop, but its expensive and I dont think i would want to deal with the issues that Leo has reported to be honest
@douglasmurphy3266Ай бұрын
That camera is CLEAN
@QuentinStephensАй бұрын
Great work as usual. Was all the test software - other than the games - native ARM? Would your opinion change if you restricted usage to native ARM software like Office?
@DraakhАй бұрын
Wonder how these are selling, reception seems to be less than luke warm from channels ive seen reviewing them.
@pixelrefresh348Ай бұрын
Think so far they are a bit of a curiosity and they are priced way too high,
@tringuyen7519Ай бұрын
QCOM Windows ARM laptops aren’t selling at all. Laptop buyers will buy an AMD or Intel instead. Nvidia is the only hope for Windows ARM laptops next year!
@Raul-id9gpАй бұрын
Leo - if they ever use AI to create reviews, I thiink we all need to give up and go home
@YoussefLambourneАй бұрын
Great review Leo thank you
@iamahappybunny7640Ай бұрын
Nicely done Leo 🎉
@DraytonWeagenerАй бұрын
Well thanks for the honestly, some other big channel have glossed over some of this but Kitguru definitely is more for the hardcore enthusiast user
@festerleech4952Ай бұрын
Good luck getting Qualcomm to open up their hardware to external software. They are notoriously secretive and laggy with drivers especially. They drove me to the iPhone after years of getting sick of their abandonware.
@amigatommy7Ай бұрын
Not ready yet.
@Hristina-c6tАй бұрын
Its not for me, but it is good to see other companies trying to get into a very competitive market between two long standing companies
@WakabaSugiharaАй бұрын
Nice job Leo and KG - screen looks very dull, but likely optimised for battery life. Found the same with my macbook but there is a third party app to brighten it up even more
@Debbiebe-hp1gxАй бұрын
Then you were very generous with that 7/10 result.
@LucitaSavannaАй бұрын
Needs a lot more development and support to become a threat to Intel and AMD - X86 has been the industry standard for so long
@trevinowoods9602Ай бұрын
It’s cool to see ARM laptops, nice to see Microsoft branching out of their x86 comfort zone.
@Praireboy-hg8ipАй бұрын
Good honest review ❤
@GarnetGuerrezАй бұрын
Interesting video, always like your takes as they arent a mainstream viewpoint, more the view of an enthusiast user and a lot of channels dont think like this.
@sunset7951Ай бұрын
research this - ARM is not ready for mainstream use - Apple have it worked out, but its a closed ecosystem so its been fine for them.
@HorstTamamIssaАй бұрын
Good review thanks
@DodeKouryАй бұрын
AI everything, I even got an email from Seasonic at the weekend saying they were making power supplies to support AI platforms.
@BradySohiaАй бұрын
Qualcomm Snapdragon has not been too bad out of the gate, for a launch product, there will always be teething issues with such a new platform - will take some time to get issues ironed out
@Ostr4284Ай бұрын
nice review and can you do a dump dsdt of this device i will tell you how to do it i need it for the woa project
@LornaIssamАй бұрын
I will give this one a miss then - but appreciate the work you put into it. I assume you wouldnt have an ARM laptop Leo yet, even for travelling and battery life?
@DeborahBernalАй бұрын
Not sure whether to pull the trigger on one of these or wait a bit.
@arachnida-hr4scАй бұрын
X86 is such a well developed platform, using ARM is like going back in time 20 years - microsoft will hopefully continue to work with them on it, but like any new platform, its going to have problems
@dreschaffhausen5693Ай бұрын
Love how Qualcomm supplied performance figures for cinebencz 2024 which doesnt run on it
@blurandomnumberАй бұрын
The arm version runs fine on arm.
@PCPro2017Ай бұрын
Windows on ARM still has a long way to go with software support..
@JulianTurner2019Ай бұрын
agreed, id definitely wait for more software to support ARM before buying anything!
@TalynOneАй бұрын
Which software that you use is not supported?
@Novasuper-jm5zyАй бұрын
I want one of those USB-C power draw dongles Intel use they are really cool.
@Wizard4SocialMediaАй бұрын
Luna lake is going to be quite special I think.
@AsmaKlinerАй бұрын
I bought a cheap ARM laptop to play with it out of interest and its quite good, battery life is great, but its still got a lot of support issues
@JamesYoung24Ай бұрын
Trouble is with pre compiled software it’s very hard to get the performance out. Linux on this thing would be a very different story as you can get native compiled stuff way easier.
@Iloveyoutube-oh4ugАй бұрын
Seems to be so many compatibility issues and X86 issues for Qualcomm, to be fair its a tall order with all the softwware packages, but it still some way from being a main system for most people
@ScarlesGilbertАй бұрын
What laptop do you use Leo for travelling or do you use a tablet?
@KitGuruTechАй бұрын
A Zenbook 14 running on Intel 11th Gen Leo
@NobumiOshiroАй бұрын
I hope they keep developing it, I b ought a surface qualcomm laptop and while its good, a few apps are giving me nasty issues at times
@SophieSorrelАй бұрын
Wow, that a shambles that was for ARM - or A, R, M
@ErskineSmieАй бұрын
ARM still has a lot of issues, its great to see more competition, but moving f rom the X86 platform will come with some issues
@KunihideHiramatsuАй бұрын
I almost bought a Surface, but I watched a few reviews and the apps I use are not yet fully supported so its a waste of time and money for me personally
@jamesjessenden7838Ай бұрын
Me too ended up buying the apple keyboard for the iPad. Glad I did that instead.
@IvetteEddaАй бұрын
When is the new Intel stuff released properly?
@SimonBennett-fw6zqАй бұрын
Looks good - nice simple design.. But those software issues are a deal-breaker for me
@MarlineGrantesАй бұрын
I think the new AMD laptop range looks better overall for most people. Interested to see what Intel do soon
@seoesale8814Ай бұрын
Doesnt look like this is ready for mainstream.
@MikeBracewellАй бұрын
I think you're being way too easy on it - 5 max. 1200 quid is an awful lot to spend on something that you can't be sure will run anything. The chassis looks pretty flimsy too. I wonder how long it will last before something breaks?
@Lina-cf6syАй бұрын
Why is the 3d mark CPU profile scoring so high?
@pixelrefresh348Ай бұрын
So best to think of this as a modern day descent of the Acorn Archimedes A4 laptop.
@jamesjessenden7838Ай бұрын
Or the laptop version of any android phone.
@ChloeMordyАй бұрын
Good review, nice laptop, but expensive for what you get
@panjak323Ай бұрын
Aren't you supposed to download ARM release of CB2024 ?
@MainaFurutaАй бұрын
These laptops need to be priced a fair bit less, after all there are still a lot of apps not supported and you get performance penalities for running X86 under emulation
@festerleech4952Ай бұрын
At 600 quid it would be something to consider.
@user-uv8qn1br8qАй бұрын
that AI demo bit at the start had me laughing my head off. A ------ R ---------- M lols
@anthonyward4654Ай бұрын
Ai - wow its being pushed on even my music channels I watch - even making videos now for big bands like Queen - its sh1te too
@NinoMaluriАй бұрын
That GPU performance is a bit depressing is it their own core?
@jeremiahtech3971Ай бұрын
Leo 5 AI 0
@joshuav.d.3777Ай бұрын
Auto tune, AI, fake videos, fake everything - welcome to 2024. Can we go back in time to before I was born?
@Anton-xd5zdАй бұрын
Really interested to see the power draw against the new zen 5 and the new intel whatever it was called that was demoed the other week.
@djayjpАй бұрын
Too many ads!!
@canarychrome7012Ай бұрын
Too many issues for me still. Will take some time to sort for Qualcomm if Microsoft out the resources into it
@FlssColeyАй бұрын
That screen looks very dull at full brightness - likely to save battery as it would suck the battery dry quickly
@CreaghCarekАй бұрын
Good review leo - I am sick hearing about AI - its a lot of twaddle what I have seen
@festerleech4952Ай бұрын
AI is mostly bollocks. Good at some stuff but gets tripped up by details every time. Think its been massively over hyped.
@CatherineMitchell-br8dxАй бұрын
anyone know if there any way to resolve the compatibility issues with ARM software? curious to know how it would work 😁
@Andrew-ks7zjАй бұрын
Microsoft - absolute nightmare
@Matori-fc7gfАй бұрын
Cannot see the software issues being resolved soon with this platform.
@NatepwnsuАй бұрын
Those USB power output dongle's Intel had are about $120 USD
@KitGuruTechАй бұрын
There is a basic version that sells for £30 Leo
@EesaregoodАй бұрын
Love Insyde's user friendly bios update program with Do not turn off your computer in red. Copyright 2000-2024!!!
@philipjfry628Ай бұрын
Did they get their screen from 1995 or is it just the brightness is set really low for the vid? Looks really washed out too.
@KitGuruTechАй бұрын
I show the settings during the video, including full brightness. It is worth remembering that companies that are keen to save battery power don't want to waste it on a bright OLED panel. Leo
@philipjfry628Ай бұрын
@@KitGuruTech I saw the bit with the full brightness but it just seems a bit washed out. Is it much better in real life?
@KitGuruTechАй бұрын
@@philipjfry628 It'll be fine indoors but I wouldn't fancy using it in sunshine Leo
@philipjfry628Ай бұрын
@@KitGuruTech Yeah just doesnt seem quality enough for that price point.
@AntonijoMilenkovicАй бұрын
OMG that copilot AI just showed me a reason not to upgrade to win11.
@KimikoKitakawaАй бұрын
This is very expensive for what it is IMO, you can get an entry level Nvidia discrete laptop at similar pricing with a lot more power. I understand this isnt necessarily the audience, but still
@helenasummer5411Ай бұрын
Kind of depressing since NT has been functional on ARM since 2012.
@BellestronsseАй бұрын
Performance is a bit disappointing but wonder how much of that is down to unoptimised software working on a very different architecture? Windows is inherently x86 friendly with most of Microsoft's efforts so far a bit half arsed.
@jamesjessenden7838Ай бұрын
Apple got it right but they have total control over the whole ecosystem from hardware to software.
@alessandroblue7Ай бұрын
bruh 5/10 was already too high the compatibility problem is HUGE, if you want battery and browser just get a 1/4 priced tablet + a 10$ bluetooth keyboard
@Eralee-qb4qsАй бұрын
The amount of bugs look nightmarish in their drivers. Will take forever to sort out. If ever.
@maxrobeАй бұрын
Budget nowadays is 1200 squid. Good god.
@jamesjessenden7838Ай бұрын
For that money you can buy an apple silicon laptop.. No contest.
@DanieleRocaАй бұрын
Thanks Leo, love your wit and jokes, very subtle and go over the heads of most americans
@rufusmctavish1164Ай бұрын
its not a bad laptop tbh, but I dont think qualcomm and X86 under emultation is a good idea right now. so many issues ive seen online. would be ok for lighter work loads for office stuff
@Unizuka14 күн бұрын
1200 pounds is considred budget nowadays? just teasing haha, great review as usual
@KitGuruTech13 күн бұрын
Thanks 👍🏻
@BardeBarnevleАй бұрын
Should be closer to £999 to be a better buy as you are going to be beta testing a lot of this stuff as you use it for them
@DavidLeb-e6vАй бұрын
There a lot of x86 emulation going on here which is a shame as native arm would give a much better result.
@EdnattPolingАй бұрын
Could be a really useful laptop if you spend any time travelling away from a power socket.
@Sneza-wm3qyАй бұрын
Its a lot of money for a laptop that cant really do any gaming.
@SarahBytesBack-s4eАй бұрын
Tell me about it! 😂
@Mikele-fs8vdАй бұрын
Anything with native ASM code is going to be awful on this thing. Which means anything computationally intensive is going to be slow as it’s going to have to emulate.
@thetechdevil-jn1voАй бұрын
Would not touch this with a barge pole
@gaminginstilllife9429Ай бұрын
I returned mine cause I need my computer to run ALL my work programs. Quiet and ran cool but I got a asus s 16 ai 9 370 and I love that laptop way more. DONT GET SNAPDRAGON