Cooler Master MasterLiquid 360L Core ARGB Review

[@buyingastairwaytoheaven5252]

Finally someone who tested this with proper hot running 2023 hardware. Seen a few reviews of this and the reviewers are using the wrong (or very old) hardware !!

[@esc5085]

My i7 14700k runs HOTTT

[@hauntingphantom14]

@@esc5085same 😢. It’s running at 99 degrees anytime I boot a game.

[@esc5085]

@@hauntingphantom14 get a arctic cooler I’ve returned my cooler master for this one

[@hauntingphantom14]

@@esc5085 Which one? The arctic cooler 2 or 3? And the 360 one right? I have the same CPU as you.

[@esc5085]

@@hauntingphantom14 the 360

[@youandiryan]

Just got the master liquid core ARGB for my i7 7700k. And it is absolutely awesome. Before my idle temperatures were like 60° c. Now my idle temperatures are between 21 and 30. And it never goes above that in idle or light tasks

[@veyselorakci-dq1sc]

Well done for coolermaster for including thermal paste in the box.

[@geofftatesmate7748]

Great review. Love the detail you guys put out on the methodology, set up and analysis ❤

[@sig3ldunc4nI]

To be fair to NZXT I understand why they went black for those cables as most people are trying to hide those cables and black is much easier to camouflage on your board.

[@Kurazaybo]

I have a previous version of the ml360 in white. Overall I like it, it is easy to install, good looking and has good details as pointed on this video. It is noisy and the fans could be better. It keeps my 12400f under 30c most of the time, so I am very pleased.

[@FrequencyOfThought]

The reason you need 360 for i9 or similar is because of heat soak, the longer the system runs the hotter the liquid gets and that becomes a problem, by adding more surface area for the water to transfer heat and also more liquid you improve the cooling performance by about 1/3. So if you're running around 75C with a 240MM then you can expect about a 10 degree difference in extended maximum power usage. Now undervolt it and you're going to get an even more stable system. Remember a hot wire takes more power to get the same voltage, so by keeping your CPU cooler it improved electron flow. That's my 2 cents. Responsiveness and stutter can mean your CPU on normal settings can be struggling with auto-clocking boosting your CPU and that creates stutters and undesired effects and leads to more unexpected crashes and behaviors.

[@boltsandbraces6261]

good review james, always loads of data and never any drama! good honest reviews

[@KitGuruJames]

Thanks!

[@mr.electronx9036]

well, replace the fans with some noctua or arctic p14 and you get rly nice cooling performance for the bang. btw cooler master fans are one of the worst for aio. Great review. 👌

[@CheapoPremio]

Thanks for the review. In Germany this currently goes for 90 Euros on the White Edition. Despite a slight hit in performance I still think that this is a worthwhile product. The 25mm thickness allows for more compatibility, the main reason for me since I am limited to sub 30mm. Combined with a reputable brand and the very low price tag a 5°C hit at 200W is more than reasonable in my opinion. And as other reviews show at lower temperatures the distance gets even smaller.

[@powermaster5004]

thanks james, good insights. I quite like the look of their blocks. quite stylish for a moderate CPU load.

[@dhrumil_108]

I was confused between Lt720 and this one thankyou so much for making this video 🎉🙏.

[@KitGuruJames]

No problem.

[@abdullahzafar28]

what did u choose ? and how is it going ?

[@ShartSydePhil]

I recently upgraded from an i3 12100F to an i7 13700KF paired with a Cooler Master Hyper 212 120mm air cooler. With gaming, the 212 was more than sufficient to cool the i7 with temps barely breaking 80c. When it came to rendering video however, temps would shoot straight to 100c and the CPU would throttle. I installed this particular AIO to my new i7, and temps now peak between 89c and 92c. For $100, this AIO is more than worth the price.

[@frankytanky5076]

The noctua performing like almost the same as many of these 360 aio's. That's probably the best purchase I've ever nade.

[@johnsnow3717]

thermalright peerless assassin costs 1/3 of noctua's nh-d15 and performs better

[@MadridistaFrieren]

​@@johnsnow3717what about the noise ? Just asking btw, i'm not a noctua fan boy.

[@Freeway7]

Yeah you are right but try to uninstall your fan 5 time in a row see how much fun it is

[@HHX_H]

Had the previous version with the 3rd Gen pump, 280mm and the performance was incredible for the price something like £70 or less was a am on only product as well

[@KnightRider-lq5yb]

what CPU and what temps are you getting?

[@user-ib5pu9hm1y]

I just got 2 of them for $66 each on amazon and after the testing I am debating to put it on my 13900k.

[@lucifersheadscarf6988]

good article - nice video quality too

[@neth77]

I had to buy this because it's all the local shop had and my other AIO died on me. It performs shit, but it keeps the 5800X3D cool enough to not throttle and beats the broken Lian Li i threw out.

[@King_Shoto]

Great review. Would you consider doing something similar with midrange CPUs like the 13600k?

[@sedatyldrm7749]

Was the pump doing its job circulating the coolant? Given the surface area doesnt make sense why its running so hot.

[@KitGuruJames]

Yes pump was working as it should. Performance with both samples was below par.

[@MerrillDragonAge]

Need help on this one. Will this be enough for a R7 5700x? Ofc the temps are high while using it on a 7950X but I just bought the 240 version and I'm not sure if it'll be enough for a 5700x.

[@TeamGames19]

i cant find anywhere that says what directions the fans blow. Does anyone know?

[@P0tato_PC]

what workload was put on the cpu when testing thermals ? and i think for a so hot running cpu with tjmax of 95 degrees .. this cooler is really acceptable based on the test workload you have put in , if cinebench then absolutely fine ...need to know

[@gustavs410]

Running this stock on a i7 13700kf. All fans on silent, 68c when on full load... i guess if i crank them to full blast i could get the temps lower but... why thou? I bought it to be silent and under 70c xD

[@mezeee]

So you can say that is no a good option for an i9 13900k? (with limited 125W TDP) and for gaming use Thanks

[@apiestink]

can't really decide what to get for my 13700k. looking forward to the new tests. as i see a lot of different results from every source... it's not really helping me decide :/

[@logic1wnl]

same to me, did u pick already one ?

[@abdullahzafar28]

did u picked something ? @@logic1wnl

[@ramsay9912]

i have 13700f, and there are two options in my mind arctic iii 360 liquid 360l core am still unsure

[@montanabillings7775]

Just installed this on my rig and cant figure out how to control the rgb. The fans work and light up but no rgb software detects the hub that comes with the cooler. Can anyone explain how to control the fans rgb effects?

[@KitGuruJames]

You need to connect the ARGB cable from the cooler to your motherboard RGB header and use the motherboard RGB software to control the lighting effects.

[@Weezedog]

Cooler Master’s in-house designed pump was always the quietest pump I’d ever seen. It is actually quieter at 100% than 50%, and at 100% it was silent. They are the only AIO I would use because the others are just annoyingly loud. Here’s hoping the new gen is as good as the old one!

[@KnightRider-lq5yb]

how is a pump quieter at full speed than half speed? is that what you are saying or am I reading that wrong?

[@AndoXD2448]

Some fans/pumps make audible grinding/clicking noises at certain speeds. So the higher speed can sound better in such cases.

[@haremofprocessors6954]

seems quite a good budget option TBH good review

[@KitGuruJames]

Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[@yan_tolentino]

Hello, is it enough for Intel Core i7 13700KF and Intel Core i7 14700KF? I'm seeing which of these two processors I'm going to buy

[@SyNeox]

i originally bought this aio for my i7 9700k but on my new i7 12700kf while stresstesting my cpu is running up to 100 degrees. id imagine it just needs better fans to cool down the radiator more and it would be fine

[@ifunny708]

i downloaded the software from master cooling and it says i have no compatible devices

[@standbymode7599]

what 'model' fans are on the master cooler 360l aio?

[@DaLastSaiyan]

Is this the best cpu cooler to use in the cooler master HAF 700 EVO?

[@Private-Hudson]

Would love to see you review the new Thermalright Frozen Notte 240 or 360.

[@DeeDee.Ranged]

Just wondeing if it would perform better with different fans.

[@scotttait2197]

Deepcool LT720 is around £95 no brainer given its cooler quieter and more cost effective

[@amitvisana2006]

Is it enough for AMD Ryzen 7600 ?

[@krissadaphochaiyarach9347]

Can you tell me the TDP value of it?

[@SirJimmySavileOBEKCSG]

Could I use this with 13900k?

[@KitGuruJames]

Yes but there are better 360mm AIOs for the money.

[@BURAK_SARIKAYA3413]

Have to say that is a really good price for an AIO - 88 squids!

[@mr.electronx9036]

bcs it performs very bad lol

[@langolodialessio1729]

Do i need ti buy a controller to control the rgb fans?

[@MaxPowers2.0]

I imagine better fans would improve the cooling and the noise performance, quite a bit

[@Battleneter]

Yep the cheapest Cooler Master fans are on this are hot garbage, the fans on the Cooolermaster Illusion are pretty good however and they can be purchased separately for this, mid due better off just buying a Cooolermaster Illusion.

[@harleylover9446]

Awesome

[@dilyarmuhammed-hy4cu]

You can see evidence of cost cutting here and there in this.

[@burhanmunir8504]

No one is gonna talk about how pipes are below pump level ? Radiator pipes should be above the pump level for proper cooling

[@lucasvaz548]

how do i turn on the fan led on an asus tuff b450m pro II, it doesn't have a 3 pin 5v connector?

[@KitGuruJames]

If your motherboard doesn't have a 3-pin 5v ARGB header then you will need to use a standalone RGB hub.

[@Tech-Is-Magical]

Good detailed video.What temps do you get on idle with that? I have the same CPU and AIO and I'm getting between 49-52 degree Celsius on idle. Pump speed is at maximum and fans speed I keep it around 70% due to noise. I'm curios what temps you get on idle. Thank you.

[@KentRoads]

I have a hot af 13700f and get under 30c

[@EinfachYasiiin]

what software do you use to control the lighting and everything

[@TheSaturdayNights]

Plug it into your fan controller and run everything off your mobo software, if you’re smart

[@wolfs_flamme9316]

i got an i 5 13600k and for me in everygame i play its working fine af idk if mine is a budget cpu i think yes but its a strong cpu atm if i am not wrong and i dont have any problems with heat

[@Ninjawill2010]

Is this a good cpu cooler for the 7600x

[@BlackF776]

Can I change the fan ?

[@yakovalhall]

oh, glad i found this video, it could be a good option for that price, but here in brazil it costs around US$170 .. so no thanks, ill have to look for someone else

[@yagmurbulut8819]

That NZXT Kraken looks the part but Kraken will always remind me of Sidney Powell.

[@rarebit4430]

Anyone have a link for the installation of this on a ryzen?

[@RadialSeeker113]

DEEPCOOL LE720 next?

[@gluesniffer7993]

Anyone know if this works on an x570 board?

[@Battleneter]

Spend a few extra $$ and buy the Coooler Master Master Liquid Illusion, much better fans and better cooling performance.

[@harleylover9446]

Still not sure if this is worth buying or just worth putting some more money into a slightly more expensive model.

[@KitGuruJames]

Depends on which CPU you plan to use it with. If it's low power then it's worth buying at the current Amazon deal price. If you plan on using it with a high power CPU such as the 7950X or i9 etc I'd be tempted to buy an alternative with better performance.

[@BeyFendiGG]

Amazing that Ryzen doesnt flash boil the coolant given how hot that thing runs.

[@DeeDee.Ranged]

That issue has been solved for a couple of months now no need to keep harpering on about it. Intels still run hotter.

[@mujtabatanveer260]

what fans come with this aio

[@historianfabulousio5128]

seems well priced overall

[@mrpopo5285]

is it worth for 70 gbp

[@HHX_H]

Can you test it with some proper fans?

[@stickyfingers9710]

I thought he did in the review?

[@KitGuruJames]

​@@stickyfingers9710I tried Noctua A12x25, Phanteks D30 and the Endorfy Navis fans. None of them improved performance.

[@utkua2469]

Can you change the rgb?

[@maleklassoued3720]

Yea

[@canarychrome7012]

i like their coolers, normally very quiet. not the best performing clearly but overall a good option if you value low noise

[@ThrasherEscapes]

this testing just showed that it was *literally* the loudest aio cooler they've looked at - and they've looked at some loud ones. if you value low noise, look elsewhere.

[@larwiemcdonnel5322]

James do you think this is the best budget AIO out now? whats your recommendations for under £130? and £100?

[@KitGuruJames]

I'd go with Deepcool LS720/LT720, Endorfy Navis F360 or Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 for that money.

[@MHAAAAANZ]

Liquid freezer all day long

[@Drewtheelder]

@@MHAAAAANZ If you want your PC to look pretty get NZXT but if you want it to run cool head for the Arctic.

[@MHAAAAANZ]

@@Drewtheelder i went for nzxt and changed the stock fan for 140mm mobius

[@Jorgensen99]

Atm, nothing beats Arctics line up when considering the price tag.

[@stickyfingers9710]

really?

[@KitGuruJames]

Deepcool and Endorfy are pretty good too. The Liquid Freezer II is looking a little dated but it has the CPU block fan which helps with VRM cooling.

[@Jorgensen99]

@@KitGuruJames Yep agreed, but it's hard to take away it's performance considering the price point. Atleast here in Denmark, Arctic AIO are some of the cheapest you can get whilst still getting a brand people have heard off :)

[@KitGuruJames]

Yeah similar here in the UK. I'd say Deepcool are becoming a trusted brand now.

[@Jorgensen99]

@@KitGuruJames Deepcool are killing it. Good performance and good looking!

[@sroberds640]

Getting 36C on a Ryzen 9 4.7 170 watt on idle

[@1300l]

I just hope its enough for a 14600K at 5.3 ghz

[@muhammedbahatopkaya1265]

Looks quality really surprised at the price given its a coolermaster plus its size.

[@nukedathlonman]

So is the performance being limited by fans, or it's performance being hampered by other things like the rad/pump? If it's only limited by the included fans, then yes I would (because I can always swap over the Corsair maglev fans I have on my current Cooler Master AIO).

[@harleylover9446]

looks like its both tbh

[@KitGuruJames]

I tested a few other fans on the cooler as I was curious about this too. Phanteks D30, Noctua A12x25, and the fans from the Endorfy Navis. None of them made any significant improvement to performance.

[@powermaster5004]

@@KitGuruJames so its the rad and pump and not the fans then?

[@nukedathlonman]

@@KitGuruJames Okay - that's disappointing to hear (and enough for my answer to be no). :-( I'm well known to not use stock fans that come with AIO's for ones that will hit noise signatures/levels while keeping or improving temperatures as well as providing a more cohesive build look. Thanks for having a look.

[@KitGuruJames]

​@@powermaster5004more than likely a combination of cold plate, pump and radiator design. Or one of the three.

[@UNKNOWN-li5qp]

Can i use this on 7700x

[@KitGuruJames]

Yes but there might be other AIOs for a similar price that perform better.

[@akuu8349]

Can this cool i714700k?

[@Asylus]

What does the L stand for?

[@KitGuruTech]

Good question, Cooler Master used to have a 'Lite' range so it might be a throwback to that

[@sethporter3145]

I am the great Coolerholio! I need cooling for my bunghole!

[@AzureBlox]

w

[@qT_p13]

I think 10:32 sums it up lolz

[@KitGuruJames]

Middle finger 😂

[@Kaffeestrudel]

Thx for that video I maybe would say, but after hearing what junk fans this are with the cheapest bearing what it gives, nah sry she can be good. But after thinking changing much better fans is must then a no-go thx for this aio.