Why you shouldn't water cool your PC

[@vitaelamorte06]

Getting rid of my car's water pump and installing a Noctua fan now.

[@lives4trauma]

hahaha

[@PvNcyborg]

Hahahahaha

[@aoh1621]

Hahahahahahaha

[@vitaelamorte06]

haha

[@pmp1337]

To be fair. There is a reason why aircooled 911s have more value than watercooled 911s.

[@wolfi8231]

"Alex has been working on this in isolation." Alex is clearly ahead of his time

[@managersky3520]

To soon

[@kwakhru435]

i really thought this was recorded in 2020

[@antenna_prolly]

*wHOOPS*

[@AndrewCislak]

I went right to the comments when he said that lol

[@diobrando1752]

😂

[@USAmericaFuckYeah]

AIO watercoolers are great for small form factor builds: they are space saving and they are less prone to heat buildup which occurs in cases with small volume. That's definitely a worthy factor omitted in the testing that's done in the video showing a big tower with a huge case volume.

[@thewhitewolf58]

So they actually have a use besides just looking flashly? Btw i have to wonder who uses small cases? I have a big case

[@sodasommelier4990]

@@thewhitewolf58 small cases are more portable, take up less space, and are generally lighter. Also, they can have a nice cooling setup depending on how you set it up.

[@arnoldthegreat4138]

i have a mini itx that can fit a small aio i dont think those two big tower fans will fit in my case ill buy the aio im using the stock amd cooler and its fuckin shit cant even overclock my ryzen 5 3600

[@wilkesmcdermid7906]

@@thewhitewolf58 They are people who live in vans. If you live in a van having a small mini-ITX case makes alot of sense. a huge tower is gonna be a pain in the pass to have if you live in a van.

[@comrademuds1951]

@@thewhitewolf58 Building a PC right now, I decided against ITX purely because I want my computer to be a work machine as well and will require upgrades down the line. If I was only planning on gaming, I'd go ITX. More desk space!

[@robertweekes5783]

This video made me think AIO's were crap. But seeing a new benchmark from Gamers Nexus indicates AIO's have improved greatly in 3 years... and the 2 fan 240/260 models are pretty quiet.

[@Krzysio290]

I had AIO since 2020 for i9-9940X and it can handle without any problem, also is very silent during compilation. The amount of heat it can blow off is impressive and I don''t believe that Noctua can do it on the same level, even overclocked.

[@aaronaaronson2095]

I love and own corsair components but they have always been louder than the ugly noctuas.

[@shaggydoggs]

@@aaronaaronson2095 noctua have fans and even a heatsink in all black now or just paint them like everyone else

[@aaronaaronson2095]

@@shaggydoggs Unfortunately chromax blacks sell at a higher premium depending on when you're buying. I've settled for the dog puke brown and just stopped looking at my computer

[@TheEchelon]

@@aaronaaronson2095 The 10 buck or whatever premium is worth it for me.

[@khitjuan254]

“Alex has been testing in isolation” that tissue roll saw hell

[@louvain-fatskrrrt4698]

BRUH THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING

[@renearistides]

First thing that came to my mind lol

[@joehdlarter]

Bro the tear in that tissue roll 😵😵😵

[@wille5619]

aaaaaaaaaaa

[@Truck-kun_01]

Hmmmmm

[@pixpix5251]

Linus: "why you shouldn't water cool a pc" Also linus: "we water cooled a gaming chair!"

[@luqmanhakimnoorhisham5402]

Why are you here? Why am i here? Why youtube does this?

[@syrreal6503]

Well it's not a PC is it now

[@opgaquatics5609]

So humans out put more heat then a PC? I don't think so dumbass

[@theguywithanobjective482]

OPG Aquatics humans put out around 98.9 degrees

[@opgaquatics5609]

@@theguywithanobjective482 Not even close to a CPU

[@gizmoguyar]

The point you said about heat pipes fundamentally being liquid is spot on. You can absorb much much more heat through phase change than you can through direct convection only. Those little heat pipes can conduct hundreds of watts of heat with only a few degrees drop across their length. And there's probably as much fin surface area as the radiators.

[@George_Bland]

You also have to account for air flow over said surface area, aka the number of fans

[@RK-ej1to]

I’d like to see tests done with mid and small tower set ups. I’ve always figured water cooling would only provide superior cooling in tight spaces with higher ambient temps.

[@AB-80X]

Not at all. Try and air cool a gen 13 or 14 900K unit that does transcoding.

[@vitordinis]

Should I use water coolers? Linus: Yesn’t

[@R3in_Ch]

original

[@vitordinis]

@@R3in_Ch thanks

[@ankittayal8291]

Yes, thats f crazy , See think : For example a company gives u a gureentee of 2-3years , go for it Also, air cooler heats up other parts if the air flow is bad 2 fans version is best I just wana say that DONT BUY AIR COOLER

[@RWoody1995]

@@ankittayal8291 then just make sure the airflow isn't bad? quietness = ftw.

[@GholaTleilaxu]

@@ankittayal8291 You sure are highly convincing but I have just one observation: you forgot to mention RGB lights that make everything better.

[@KematianGaming]

me: buys a watercooler and builds it into my rig KZbin, literally the same day: recommends this Video

[@MCHellshit]

Same dude. Now im thinking of returning it and buying a Noctua

[@MarkLikesCoffee860]

Isn't it easier and cheaper just to buy a faster CPU? Overclocked i3 with expensive watercooling vs i9 on air.

[@Floppyflipflops473]

@@MarkLikesCoffee860 you'd have to just not research to even think of putting an i3 under an aio or water-cooling. Unless you're only after looks. It would be better to get a Ryzen 5 3600 or a 10th gen i5 and use the stock cooling.

[@BlackDonMetallo]

@@MCHellshit if they would use proper fans on the aio's and not the stupid lowbudget high noise fans which get shipped with it and also make it a sandwich (4 - 6 fans on the aio) would get far better result than the noctua at any point i have a setup like that and neither can i get my gpu nor cpu above 53°c at 60% fanspeed while gaming in 4k and having gpu overclocked massivly. Using 11 Noctua fans in my entire rig and nope its not noisy at all.

[@coredumperror]

If it makes you feel any better, I just watched this video *before* dropping $145 on an AIO that I saw a review for yesterday.

[@PlayinWithGhosts]

My last build was AIO and the one I'm building now will also be AIO. I had previously rocked air using nothing but Noctua. Honestly, both applications work for me. I prefer AIO for the noise levels being pretty much ambient to non-existent. Sure it's pricier, but honestly the AIO cooling solutions we have now are pretty nice for the price.

[@holleringsmith3837]

I just switched to the Kraken Z73 AIO from a Noctua fan and my temps dropped 25-30 degrees. Either Noctua sucks, or liquid cooling is just that much better

[@PlayinWithGhosts]

@@holleringsmith3837 going all air really requires a great case to get anywhere near what water cooling gets you. If I ever go back to air, it will be with the fractal design torrent case. Kraken is a cool AIO! I went with EKWB with my new build. Cools the 12900K like a champ. 🤙🏻

[@RockBandRS]

@@holleringsmith3837 That big a difference either means your case has god awful air flow, your ambient temps are really high, you chose the wrong air cooler for your cpu, or you didn't have the noctua cooler mounted properly.

[@Terraqueo22]

Been using the small ones from Corsair.. The H60 model... Never failed me.. CPU Temp never climbs out of 54Celsius on full load... on idle it stays at 32 also super quiet

[@adityamanjunath5030]

@@PlayinWithGhosts I have a fractal design torrent and a noctua nhu 12s my temps reach 48 degrees when I'm rendering so it's a beast of a case 🙌🙌

[@Tomcatntbird]

A friend of mine mounted his desktop components on the wall of his bedroom since he didn't like the fact of heat generating components being in a small contained space isn't a good idea. So he had a window unit that kept the room at around 60 degrees and mounted the computer hardware on the wall with L brackets. Worked very well and was also a secondary lighting for the room.

[@Fiufsciak]

What the hell

[@ChaseFace]

Rip dust

[@BurnoutWien]

60degrees? so he was cooking himself ? dafuq

[@Frawt]

​@@BurnoutWien60 degrees in Freedom units, so 15 degrees Celsius.

[@ChipperTheChipster]

Distance directly effects data bandwidth and power fluctuations. Not a bad idea, but the gpu, cpu abd mobo are going to be all within a predetermined distance

[@yourtub8705]

Wtf I just pour water over my pc every few minutes

[@mylindor8164]

Wtf I just drop ice on my pc every few minutes

[@okuyashoe_official]

I see no issues with this

[@yourtub8705]

@@okuyashoe_official i figured why buy a water cooler when u can do it yourself

[@bulldozer8950]

Are you the verge guy?

[@carden88]

Yeah man I just keep mine in the freezer drilled a few holes for the wires

[@sandsgrainofsand5320]

Every video: So you're building a new pc. Me:No. I'm not

[@cdreid99999]

but you think about it when youre watching :P

[@Bird_of_Hope]

200th liker👍🏽

[@nuhstawlgia]

10,000 subscribers without any videos if u wanna cop a pre built

[@Fedd-V]

@10,000 subscribers without any videos No. It's not

[@Fedd-V]

@10,000 subscribers without any videos or they are just subscribed to Linus?

[@gaddeath]

I have one PC with an AIO and one without. Getting my hands around parts that are near the CPU such as the m.2 SSD or RAM is so much easier with the AIO since it doesn’t take up space near the CPU socket. Trying to get your hands around anything with the CPU with an air cooler is pretty annoying.

[@Dailyclipsoeverything]

Anyone from 2024

[@songohan12]

Yea, just installed my h100i elite corsair aio and it was louder and performed worse than my huge noctua cooler they just tested here. Ffs now I wanna return it

[@jackpowell8155]

I won a bid for a pre-built and was wondering if the AIO would be better in my personal rig. Nope!

[@Joldrath]

Actually I bought the NH-U12A. After watching this video I am glad I did. ❤

[@Elvyne]

Sup

[@kingsbl3851]

@@Dailyclipsoeverything damn thought the vid was 5 months old lmao

[@CountArtha]

**takes off headphones** Wait . . . . My PC makes _noise?_

[@shawarden]

Why do you think no one can understand you on mic?

[@1VirSUS1]

@@shawarden use a program with filters like OBS, solves problem and even make sound better...jesus its 2019...

[@gameoriginal4213]

@@1VirSUS1r/woooosh

[@RhysClark97]

@@1VirSUS1 some people use speakers/and talk to people in roms with computer on, background noise is annoying

[@1VirSUS1]

@@RhysClark97 tahts why i said you use programs...filter the noise, its doing a decent job at it

[@wongelfski4681]

Obviously leaving the computer turned off is the best way to cool your PC

[@Tugela60]

No, direct immersion in a tank of liquid helium.

[@rattango9819]

*smacks my head in disbelief why DIdn't I thInK of That BEFORE

[@Tugela60]

@@rattango9819 Because you keep smacking your head. That impedes the thought process.

[@misakamikoto8785]

Because of a video posted before: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGnFmXqtaduIfKc

[@fadyserhan9537]

How about puting it on freezer?

[@magicmulder]

Also don't forget modern AIO has come a long way. Alphacool's newer models are basically custom watercooling for everyone as you can easily expand the system, add a second pump (also good in case the first fails), additional radiators etc. And all pretty much plug and play.

[@marlo8850]

A GPU CPU combo still costs 500 bucks from them tho

[@magicmulder]

@@marlo8850 If you're going for dual radiators. Just adding a CPU cooler to an existing GPU cooling setup is a bit cheaper and often sufficient.

[@athomenotavailable]

I think in the past liquid cooling in its infancy was better only because air cooling wasn't using heatpipes or not using heatpipes effectively. But now the use of heatpipes for cpu cooling has matured. Liquid cooling has the advantage of high heat capacity, but heat pipes has the advantage of latent heat of vaporization (of water inside the heatpipes) and conducts heat incredibly fast.

[@Studio7g]

i really like many fans in my pc... so loud it overtones my parents arguing...

[@TheTechDudeYT]

Babu Kun felt this

[@JWeel89]

100.000 RPM for my parents

[@BeachLookingGuy]

HAHAHA

[@Zandroid01]

You can help the over tune by putting your GPU fan speed to 100%. Just ask my GTX 460.

[@keithaniellegaspi6734]

so true relate my own experience haha

[@mcknghtn]

Gamers: Wears headphones and uses mechanical keyboards. Also gamers: Ewww fan noise

[@Felipemelazzi]

Thank you. I was thinking the same

[@bulcsu7044]

@@phronesis2471 Cherry is literally the market standard for mechanical switches, what the fuck are you talking about?

[@Felipemelazzi]

Ok, I saw this discussion coming. Not all mechanical keyboards are loud, we know that. I believe this comment was just a funny remark on how enthusiats sometimes focus too much on something and ignore others. (and that noise is not that much of an issue if you use good headphones most of the time)

[@bulcsu7044]

@@phronesis2471 and if I shit in the bucket I get you. By the way, who do you think is the best switch manufacturer then?

[@henrymarocchi7844]

I have open back headphones and my old gpu was hella loud and I could hear it over my game and keyboard.

[@sasca854]

I used to liquid cool... AIOs, then moved on to custom loops with soft tubing, then on to doing builds with rigid PETG tubing, etc... Now I just stick with a Noctua NH-D15. Got sick of permeation on AIOs rendering them useless after a while, doing maintenance on custom loops (disassembling a PETG run is a pain in the ass), etc. A good air cooler with a graphite thermal pad gets you 90% of the way there and you don't have to do a damn thing to maintain it. No repasting, no nothing. Blast it with some compressed air once in a while if you're feeling generous. That's it.

[@kuma8030]

using a graphite thermal pad instead of something like the kingping or the kryonaut or even the nt-h2 its actually very strange

[@xXRenaxChanXx]

Towers aren't the only case style though, there's are also "Desktop" or Lan Box" style cases which lay the motherboard flat instead of upright. Which is arguably a much better design. Especially if you plan to build something like an HTPC.

[@CenKyne]

This is what I was thinking in addition to the fact that every time I've moved my PC I just laid it down on its side to reduce the GPU and cooler strain hehe

[@Terraqueo22]

Reject Towers. Return to boxes.

[@TheUnderscore_]

​@@Terraqueo22 Exactly! All the people walking past my home on the sidewalk should listen to you!

[@marayeavo3367]

Linus: Why you shoudn't water cool your PC. Also Linus: Builds every PC with watercooling

[@Glorious_Kim_Jong_Un]

Because it looks much better. I think most people know this, you are trading reliability and safety of your internal components for aesthics. People do it in every aspect of life.. just hopefully not in an ER room.

[@josur8181]

​@@Glorious_Kim_Jong_Un Or in 99.99% to show off to others. Humans are miserable!

[@callmethreeone]

He makes videos for money, doesn’t mean it’s all correct.

[@Alfaomegabravo]

Its a bit like Lewis Hamilton giving reasons why people should not drive at 200 mph

[@naturalcauses1695]

@Bob Saget must have some ugly ass stuff

[@davidpalomino9138]

Just flip your pillow over, lol.

[@Funkoh]

David Palomino just turn the earth 180 degrees for winter so it can cool down using nature

[@CGoody5642]

Turned my tower upside down; works great

[@TheBoostedDoge]

Science!

[@darlingimscared]

XD made me laugh

[@ramdany7]

wow.. it works. it also make noise more quieter, thanks!

[@terribleatfishing]

Heat dissapation is created by surface area, the Noctua has A LOT of surface area in its fins to create more dissapation. Measure overall surface area and you will get an idea of cooling effectiveness.

[@yaney003]

Does this still apply to this day?

[@larrylentini5688]

I aspire to reach the point in life where I can build a bean bag quiet room and call it work.

[@andrwwz6351]

Don't we all?

[@purpl3grape]

Resisting the temptation to take a nap is work all in itself.

[@vladtheinhaler93]

I aspire to reach the point in life where I can sleep in a bean bag quiet room and call it work. ..

[@ZenMuff1n]

"No one come in here I am taking a nap.. ugh... measurements"

[@davidsault9698]

And where do you put that on your resume?

[@wewillrockyou1986]

Noctua is going to make fat sales off this video LOL

[@Hitokiri_Ace]

True. ..and aside from their color scheme.. they deserve it. :D

[@Chiphunk]

That's what brand loyalty and pleasing your customers does for your business.

[@neophobia404]

alpenföhn aircoolers are pretty much on-par and cheaper...

[@seanbrennan5469]

you cant argue with the fans performance its the cost and color scheme that keep me from buying one

[@Fishingishard]

They're already recognized as top tier coolers. But the people who would buy the RGB AIOs won't care about performance.

[@NissanSkylineVR30]

The video brings up an important point - its all context. Some things perform better than others despite fan or water or size. I have always know that some smaller AIOs perform better than bigger AIOs.

[@ilikefartjokes]

Alone in a room with door closed. “Sinlencing the room”….. I saw that role of paper towels next to your computer…. You were cleaning the glass weren’t you!!!!

[@kylerhoman197]

Linus: "Why you shouldn't water cool your PC" Also Linus: "Water Cooling a TI-84 Graphing Calculator"

[@lorelo.]

Well...he didnt watercool his pc

[@TaxEvasionUS]

@@lorelo. A calculator has a CPU and RAM in it so it is kinda a computer

[@deadskimountaineer]

At the end of the day your computer is a just a calculator anyway

[@BenjaminRonlund]

That's because water cooling wins in the most important metric... Views.

[@manusiaorang2842]

But It Wasn't PC Tho

[@____________________________.x]

Every ten minutes I urinate on my CPU cooler to assert dominance. Temps stable at 32degC

[@MirekFe]

You made my day. 👍 Thank you.

[@Neph991]

Omg 😂

[@abdulmuhaimin5274]

What happens if you try to overclock CPU?

[@sean_delay]

Dominance Asserted, good job soldier

[@yuichi.inumaru]

pro

[@hasankhaddam540]

Weird no sponsor at the end of the video

[@RaisedonTwoWheels]

This aged well.

[@p.c.windhamparanormalroman4339]

Linus: Why you shouldn't water cool your PC. Linus: Nearly every build he does is water cooled.

[@doomrider7]

I was about to comment on that especially in regards to his $5k build one.

[@mouritioebanks7223]

Then his next video why water cooling is better than air Cooling make up your goddamn mind dude

[@MinorZero]

He says it directly: using their computer (us, mostly) as opposed to tinkering with their computer (them, and some of us). I thought that was clear enough

[@allbies]

tbf he likes to tinker with his pc whereas most people want to build it and forget about it for as long as possible and just use it.

[@blakeaham]

Also, I bet a loop with pump reservoir and blocks probably far outperforms AIOs

[@mrmidnight32]

Gamers: I hate case noise! Also gamers: Sound canceling headphones at 110% sound whoring at 120db

[@josselinplanet8240]

i hate headphones, i play 95% of my time with speakers ^^.

[@q12aw50]

That’s exactly why I don’t care about the sound. Plus the graph he used for the decibel chart is misleading. 20 decibels is I believe 10 times louder than 10 decibels. Same core 20 and 30 and so on.

[@Pepe-dq2ib]

who the fuck uses sound canceling headphones?

[@Handlehandleistaken]

@@Pepe-dq2ib me. Good quality sennheisers

[@Pepe-dq2ib]

@@Handlehandleistaken no such thing as good sounding noise canceling headphones. I doubt it sounds any good as their every level HD 6XX that you can get for $160 on sale.

[@davigosky]

Cool setup guys.I missed a bottle of hand lotion besides that paper roll.

[@Yaboidavey]

Water cooling is great.... Until one day when it's no great and you notice the liquid dripping from under your rig. R.i.p. my first gaming PC

[@AsfaeksBR]

Boris already taught us that a great PC must be cooled with Vodka

[@pure6450]

Yes dear comrade. Let the potatoes reign.

[@edl449]

A fellow man of culture

[@MatthewHodges]

For the Motherland

[@janschafer8173]

There ist a Video on KZbin with a Beer cooling

[@avanix702]

@@janschafer8173 jaaaa ich weiß xDD

[@GeekTherapyRadio]

Side effect of silent builds is that you notice how loud the ambient world actually is. Dang leaves rustling!

[@flex_ible]

Not when you live in a city lol, I need my PC to be as loud as possible to drown out the noises of honking cars and shouting people outside :D

[@GeekTherapyRadio]

@@flex_ible Kind of what I'm saying! A silent PC in an area with heavy traffic and paper thin walls isn't exactly a high priority (though I'd still go as silent as possible) :)

[@NoLongo]

I had a spare 3.5” drive to put in my build for some extra storage. It lasted about a day before I ripped it back out because it was all I could hear.

[@MikeHedges1993]

Yea thats why I never really worked to hard on the silent aspect. Theres so much going on around me constantly, that the computer is still the quietest piece of the puzzle haha

[@Longbowgun]

Same: When I bought my Chevy Volt, "Damndable tire noise!"

[@Nick_R_]

The surch search.. I do love a bit of self-deprecating humour. Gave me a big grin.

[@justinrock4032]

1- Saves up for water cooler 2- finally orders the unit 3 - “ah, time to relax with some KZbin now” KZbin-

[@ratiavaliani8515]

"You shouldn't water cool your PC" Linus : water cools all his PC's

[@ToxicFruitSnack]

Rati Jugeli h m m m m

[@Rex_TTV]

he said he water cools it because he likes the "cleaner look" because you can mount water coolers higher and are less out of site and you can see your motherboard and maybe led lights (if you add some) more better but air coolers are much better than water coolers I agree especially price wise

[@Furueru]

Do what i say, not what i do. - LTT

[@Gixbit]

3celsius = It's not even close. Could be anything from TIM to airpockets, Like how do you suppose that they eliminated all the variables in their setup when the radiator is mounted differently with relation to airflow, along with what sounds like a jank setup with HVAC and shit. I think the biggest and most beneficial aspect of the AIO, is not the cooling performance, it is infact the clearance hassle that you fucking get from big fucking fans and heatsinks, which there is no way to fucking know for sure if you have clearance until you get something shipped to you, only to find out, FUCK It doesnt fit. Or you're literally risking damaging your board to push ram at an angle, or forcing stuff in, having to completely dismount your whole CPU, just to change ram. Honestly, Cry more about 3Celsisus, when you're building a pc and dont wanna fuck around with "Does it fit", AIO wins everytime. Unless your board is awkward as fuck, There's no way you can't find a way to mount an AIO (where the radiator fits), in a case with any board. Who cares about temps when you're trying to figure out which spacehog is gonna fit in your particular case, with your particular board, with your particular ram. Unless you wanna go the safest route and copy some kid's setup by the piece, which means you gotta stalk some forums for someone who isn't bullshitting you.

[@nyjetskater]

Linus always warns us not be like him what do we do? copy Linus. just don't start dropping your shit :D

[@nova_vista]

Tech companies: Sell shit products by paying for ads Noctua: Gets free advertisement by making actually good products Tech companies: **surprised Pikachu face**

[@tropicthndr]

yea, amazed at the amount of suckers in the world that buy PC water cooled stupidity when a good laptop will do it all.

[@VanguardX]

@@tropicthndr found the sucker lol

[@tomp538]

Agree. I've long said that if marketed right. A turd wrapped in decorative foil will sell. So much "stuff" is designed only to "SELL."

[@AsianIdiots323]

Silent Studios If you want a powerful PC but are extremely mobile from day to day

[@nickparkin8527]

I can't get a laptop with an I7 7700k and 32GB DDR4, liquid metal on the cpu with water-cooling, and a GTX 1080TI and a 32" wide screen. @@VanguardX

[@midnitethedsixl4601]

Very informative video! I went with a cooling fan for my PC as opposed to water cooling because liquid in a PC makes me nervous

[@ironwheal]

the liquid is non-conductive and harmless. actually, a large bulky mass fastened to a small-footprint socket essentially on a lever, should make you a lot more nervous)) many a socket had been ripped out of a motherboard that way...

[@Dankyjrthethird]

Based and 200iq AIOs are a gimmick, only cork sniffers buy them imo

[@Stef-an]

I was hoping to see the effect on overall case temps and the GPUs as well. I really want to keep my PC quiet under load and very often it's the GPU fans that are the loud ones. And GPU temps are very dependent on overall case temps.

[@mbntr2363]

It’s depressing when I realise that 90% of the time I’m tinkering with my pc, it’s even more depressing when I realise that I prefer tinkering with my pc than gaming on it

[@keagan5379]

mbntr you’re not alone

[@RandyAndyShow]

I hate the tinkering. I just want it to be over

[@conrodius259]

Try tinkering with others computers. Make a hobby of it. If you like doing it, keep going

[@thedead456321]

Me with modding Skyrim, I enjoy more modding it and making everything works than actually playingmy modded Skyrim.

[@venomcuregaming6734]

@@thedead456321 I know right

[@Jayztwocents]

I'm so triggered!

[@infinitelyexplosive4131]

They should have gotten you to do a custom 480+240 loop or something.

[@johnpatz8395]

JayzTwoCents i just knew you would be responding to this video.

[@Maznweater]

response video?

[@johnpatz8395]

@@Maznweater He did a similar video, comparing the watercooled test bench with a Noctua D15, and the results were not much different.

[@echofunandgames7874]

OMG! YOU ARE FAMOUS KZbinR!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@cocogoat8448]

Linus:Why you shouldn't water cool your PC Linus a few years later: WATER COOLING IS EVERYTHING.

[@TheEireknight]

I see a lot of confusion in the comments about different tests finding AIOs have better outcomes. The TL;DR here is: In real world situations, an AIO will beat most air coolers, unless you're dealing with a really good cooler like the one in the review, and even then it's basically a draw... but the AIO will still likely win under most normal use case scenarios. Linus gives the reason why in the video, but it's downplayed... that reason is that most compute workloads aren't continuous max load. There's also a problem with their test, which we'll get into. Under max load overclocked in order to force heat, the motherboard is basically forcing as much voltage into the CPU as it possibly can at the stable overclock, which means MUCH more than under a standard load which radically reduces the efficiency of the chip, and that drives the heat on the silicon WAY up. This is basically flooding both solutions to maximum saturation until they reach equilibrium. At that point, what you're really testing is the case's ability to transfer heat out of the chassis, because now all of your components are saturating to that level, and that's limited to the amount of egress space in the case and the other fan dynamics so now you have a case bottleneck that is influenced by the local environment's temperature... which is also heating up with the computer. Now you're probably saying "But there was still a difference between the components, and they were in the same environment." Yes, but the environment is not the same for each test, it has variance, and your cooling will ALWAYS be judged against the ambient temperature as a baseline. In other words, if the ambient temperature increases 3 degrees, your max cooler temp will be higher by roughly the same amount. And disregarding the H60 (which is 100% not rated for an aggressive overclock and should not be used in this use case like this and only seems to be here to provide a really bad result) the total difference between the temperatures is a whopping... 3 degrees. Statistically significant? Errr... Actually... no. That's a 3.7% difference and statistical significance isn't reached until an adjusted 5% difference... but that's after accounting for margin of error, and 3.7% doesn't. In the video that noted that the temperature differential in the room at different points was... about 2-3 degrees. And there you have it. And it's impossible to know the external case temp for each stage of each test given what we have provided here, unless it was measured at the time and if it was, it's not included here as far as I can recall. And even the mobo ambient temp sensor won't give you the external case ambients. So there's no actual significance in these numbers... what we're seeing here is variance in local environment combined with the fact that they saturated both cooling solutions to the point where other bottlenecks mattered more. It's also possible that on top of that, the Noctua fan configuration may be benefitting from case airflow design better than the AIO is, as the AIO will be pushing out both CPU AND GPU heat emitting up, whereas the channel of air with the 2 fan Noctua is likely isolating the air moving through the CPU, which would provide for a very slight lowering of temperature (at the expense, likely, of GPU thermals because you're now potentially blocking one exit path for the GPU's airflow). However, in most real world workloads, you're not pushing the chip to its limit over time and you're not likely to be so aggressively overclocked, and in those cases the AIO will likely significantly outperform because they actually do move heat faster than most air coolers under those conditions. The next step is to tweak the AIO fan setup for your purposes. Most come with max fan distribution and just like airflow in different setups requires different designs, case thermal and airflow dynamics also often benefit better from a tweaked fan zone configuration, which not only may slightly benefit AIO thermals, but also radically changes the sound profile for the system in a way that you can't with an air solution (since there's no radiator and coolant in an airflow solution to absorb short bursts of CPU heat spikes). One last thing, people in the comments need to look up how water electrical conductivity works. While it wouldn't necessarily be a good thing, an AIO leak is not likely to short out your computer. It's not impossible, and I wouldn't want to have one because they're a mess to clean up, but water itself is thermally but not strongly electrically conductive. What kills your keyboard when you spill water on it at home is that the water you're drinking isn't really free of metals and other electrically conductive material and the AIO coolant is at least supposed to more or less be. (This is also, by the way, why you're not supposed to drink water distilled for use in non-conductive use cases... it'll actually sap you of minerals because the water you'd use in a water loop does not have the electrolytes you need to maintain biological homeostasis.)

[@tyronebiggums4653]

This is where poor people like me who can't afford water cooling come to feel better

[@Ocean_vfx]

Yea i have a gaming pc not water cooled but i came here to feel good

[@harshitsharma2690]

I have my cpu overclocked with a stock intel cooler @85% all time.

[@ganthrithor]

At least you're not one of those people who spent above average money installing a shitty AIO water cooler that costs more than air and does its job worse. AIO crowd are like the kind of people who spend thousands of extra dollars buying the optioned-out Camry covered in fake vents and lip-kits and quad-exhaust tips: it's all for show, and they just don't realize how dumb the show looks. Don't feel bad about running a well-thought-out air cooling solution-- it just means you're not stupid.

[@fatumteam]

@@justinquisitive7226 mmmm Zalmann

[@UrielX1212]

Not poor at all. I just don`t need unneeded rubbish inside of my pc. If it makes you feel superior...by all means go for it. The only issue is, as evidenced by your comment, water cooler users come off as something similar to vegans. Bloody hell indeed! LOL

[@SsgtHolland]

A sound insulated room.. An eager young man.. Kitchen towels beside the pc screen...

[@jakublulek3261]

Just like my room used to be.

[@ironicmedic3912]

its obviously to to clean up water spills in the case and to silence his screams of rage from playing Dark Souls

[@shayylol]

Ironic Medic OBVIOUSLY

[@kotekzot]

I'm glad they're taking the problem of gamer gunk seriously.

[@chainsawpony4095]

*fapfapfapfapfapfapfapfap*

[@happyearthlings1738]

one point that linus is missing that custom watercooling only matters if your CPU/GPU are even overclockable. I don't see any reason to put watercooling on celeron, or i3 cpu, or even m1 mac. The alternative best option is to put liquid metal (75 W/m.k) if you really want that extra cooling on air cooling.

[@DazzerJ]

When Linus mentioned isolation, I thought COVID then I checked the date of upload 😂

[@Master_Therion]

I was just discussing this with a coworker. Talking about water coolers at the water cooler.

[@davion2551]

Syncronisties Mr. Crowley

[@claudiovasquez2099]

Never thought id see a Thelema symbol over here

[@integer0verload948]

Your fired AF.

[@samiraperi467]

Custom loop with a water cooler as the reservoir.

[@lividsphincter4098]

Booooooooo!

[@funnyfish9360]

“You first need to figure out if your cpu needs more cooling” * glances over to stock intel cooler*. * continues watching

[@GinoMarks]

🤣

[@Baryamanin]

bwahahahaha

[@untotesoldat]

Lmfao my cpu just got fried so I’m watching this

[@mikerzisu9508]

Stock coolers are straight trash

[@funnyfish9360]

@@mikerzisu9508 agreed.

[@FreshSqueezedLightning]

10:50 FINALLY how does literally NO ONE talk about coolers and moving around a PC, THANK YOU.

[@Fluskar]

air coolers for life

[@OliM9595]

Me: buys and AIO YT: lets recommend him this video. Me: :(

[@Thep184]

Dude, i have an AIO because my air cooler didn’t work as it should. My CPU was at 85 celsius, now with the AIO the cores are at max 60 and the overall temp is 36 at absolute max load. It works, its simple and it does its job. I am glad i have this watercooling system, its effective and just gets its job done. Also consider this: the H100 is one degree above the air cooler... its just one degree... so dont always listem to what they say. Their data might not be corrupted by any opinion, but the point of the video was to prove water cooling sucks. If you feel bad look up videos about Pros and you find a different opinion. As long as it does its job and you like it, it doesn’t matter really

[@RBMDragon]

I would suggest GamerNexus video on AIO orientation, just in case you're experiencing bubbling sounds and feel it is louder.

[@carlosl5820]

True

[@kreb9721]

@Gr3gor bruh

[@cato3277]

@@kreb9721 aesthetics make performance better bro I swear, RGB bumps my FPS up by like 60

[@ponkrumo280]

Jayztwocents: *WHY U SHOULD WATERCOOL* Linus after a few months: *WHY U SHOULDNT WATERCOOL* Kingpin: *WHY YOU SHOULD DO LN2 COOLING*

[@Zell717]

so what hell i have to do??!!

[@M1ndblast]

Make up your own mind. As usual!

[@jackbanxian]

OMG dude jayztwocents is CUSTOM watercooling, and linus is saying AIOs. Jay doesn't recommend AIOs.

[@redclaw72666]

Look up optimum tech and you'll see its better to switch the fans than the shitty corsair fans

[@level8473]

@@Zell717 Dont put any cooler in your cpu

[@yuricorrea2491]

I'm building a 7900X pc now in 2023 and this video was super unhelpful, just like our sponsor! Thanks, LTT

[@oddy_gg]

i was so naive, giving AIO a chance in all my builds. I'll never use a AIO ever again after the 2nd pump failure and general performance as well as noise level is way worse than air cooling

[@iamnateee]

We all know why there's a tissue roll sitting right next to a pc in an awfully quiet room that prevents noise from being heard outside.

[@kevinfischer4759]

I paused this video at just before 5 minutes and proceed to scroll down looking for this exact comment. I knew it was here. I don't even know why I came looking for it.

[@ranjanimanlike1240]

Kevin Fischer I came here for that myself too

[@allegriacandlewright3548]

@@kevinfischer4759 I did the same thing lmao

[@UnseenThreat07]

Dirty Sanchez with the crustache

[@pootisspencer5492]

Tastor yes, only virgins masturbate. this is science.

[@bryant7082]

When my pc reaches 110 degrees I turn off my heater and use the pc heat.

[@deadinsideandout9292]

My laptop shuts off at 67 or so degrees C :(

[@lotusflower_]

Dead Inside and Out rip

[@ImperialDiecast]

@@deadinsideandout9292 my laptop goes to 100 celsius before the gpuz temperature counter stops counting. A simple trick I learned to bring temps down is to raise my laptop on each corner so that it isnt flat on the table. that prevents heat buildup below it

[@erzhaider]

110 degrees?! And I am worried if it reaches 80...

[@beater4742]

When my pc reaches 40 degrees I'm already scared I would get a panic attack if I saw urs

[@potato1341]

The simple idea that a liquid is near my several hundred quid components at all time is more than enough convincing.

[@ants2340]

Its not a surprise that this video is already outdated. The noctua cooler in the first section of the video is now the same price as a fractal design Celsius + 360mm cooler, and its 30db unlike the noctua fan

[@CookieEliminator]

There are 3 types of cooling: Air Water Noctua

[@JohnSmith-li5pj]

correction: There are 4 types of cooling: Air Leaky bois Less leaky bois Vodka

[@bossjulian_]

When you drink vodka it worms you up so

[@JohnSmith-li5pj]

@@bossjulian_ I've never heard of vodka worming someone

[@bossjulian_]

Alcochol makes you dont feel cold so much

[@cjchillax1771]

@@bossjulian_ correct another fun fact it also decreases your bodies ability to actually retain heat believe it or not .

[@TTRonin]

*5 months later* "Why you should water cool your pc."

[@gabrielteruel4720]

Just wait for a new sponsor

[@genegieb9153]

10 months later "Why you should fan cool you pc".

[@eloikrousseau9502]

@@genegieb9153 air*

[@WoodysAR]

LOL I AIO'D MY 1080TI TOO!

[@ClumsyNinja301]

12 later: Why I'm selling my pc

[@AxelAlexK]

I made sure to go with air cooling in my new PC. Had water cooling in my last one. There's no point in liquid cooling since I'm not gonna push my CPU super hard and air cooling is easy to monitor, install and clean. My last water cooler was a royal PITA to install, remove and reinstall. It seems like air cooling is a no brainer unless you will regularly be pushing your CPU to its limits. And I want to be able to just look at my cooler and know it's working because I can see it's spinning.

[@deathrager2404]

what kindof cooling you have is barely gonna have an impact on how much you can OC your cpu. thats the silicon lottery.

[@Kyleplaysgames567]

I was so close to buying a water cooler for my PC until I heard the word "Maintenance"

[@memitim171]

Linus: "But performance isn't everything..." Me: "Yes it is."

[@neelo420]

Im not liking u cause u have 69 likes

[@haseenabadshah5381]

69 likes lmao

[@matthewjackson5325]

By the time I saw this the number had changed....to 69x2 likes!

[@asari9731]

Not related but I like the 12 oz. Mouse profile pic lmao

[@justaperson8852]

Me using liquid nitrogen to cool my laptop: *I like your funny words magic man*

[@jason59k55]

big brain time

[@StefanVeenstra]

‐321°F's for your frozen laptop.

[@samuelvetter2349]

@@StefanVeenstra shahhhh right! I'm like OC to a jillion!

[@nagisarizzo2598]

Better is protoplanetary Boomerang Nebula that's what I use I had to travel 5.000 lightyears but it's ok

[@justaperson8852]

@@StefanVeenstra actually, I have the rx 5700 xt, which means that my junction temperature is still 80 degrees

[@Sola_Scriptura_1.618]

My philosophy has always been to choose the simplest designs that work! My recent purchase of an air cooler for my 5900 was a no-brainer. I am no PC cooling expert, but when you have to concern yourself with Fan Performance + Cooling Fluid Evaporation + Cooling Leakage from RAD and/or tubes + Pump performance, the complexity of AIO cooling solutions led me to stick with the tried, tested and true air cooling method. Fluid and electronics don't mix! Call me old school, but I can sleep at night without worrying about a defective AIO damaging my PC. The cost of replacing components is one thing, but the cost of lost productivity and stress is another!

[@cuongtang9539]

True words, think the same, fuck watercooling, its like a BMW nice car a lot of power, but shity parts allways headaches. So keep it simple.

[@Sola_Scriptura_1.618]

@Cuong Tang agreed! The complexity and the risk do not support the benefits. Everything I have seen does not show an advantage to water cooling. Still need fans to cool the rad.

[@cuongtang9539]

@@Sola_Scriptura_1.618 Yeah imagine, for the price of an CM Watercooling setup, i can near build a new PC (with no GPU) i still use an Alpenföhn Matterhorn CPU Air Cooler since about 10 Years no Problems at all. sorry for my English im from Switzerland.

[@Tay_there]

used an aio since corsair first came out with them 10+ years ago, never failed.

[@theofanispatitsas7111]

I use a watercooler for my i7 6950X for the 6 years I have built my system; never failed, zero noise. I also always use water-cooling for all my GPUs, zero fails, zero noise at 4k. This video did not age well at all lol.

[@massimiliano1306]

I'm going to wait here until it fails

[@DavidFrostbite]

8:02 You guys do this in a lot of your graphs. I don't have these product numbers memorized, could you plz put up a picture next to the name so I know what I'm looking at? Or overlay the names on the screen where you show them all on the table. (edit) Lol they fixed it at 8:47

[@freedomsflame688]

For Corsair AIOs, every 50 is a 120mm fan (H50/H60 is 1, H100i is 2, H150 is 3). I will agree that the Noctua cooler ones are a bit less easy to memorize, though.

[@MrDownSauce]

Hmmm, wonder what they did at 8:47 then?

[@blingblong1]

i hope they do! nice idea. i also wish they would level the volume of their intro so it isnt louder than the rest of the bideo

[@Di3mondDud3]

@@freedomsflame688 noctua, bigger number, bigger metal

[@anashussain8495]

weakness disgusts me.

[@gyrgrls]

You can tell he is popular. Just look at all his fans!

[@NVOMK416]

LOL

[@user-ze7ko5jt2h]

LMAO

[@alder1017]

Underrated

[@trollfacegaming1111]

R/technicallytrue

[@dieglhix]

I love fan jokes

[@DemonLordGamingAC0]

I nearly damaged my new Graphics card, my CPU and my Motherboard with the installing/removal process of my 120mm Tower air cooler being extremely difficult. I got VERY lucky nothing got permanently damaged. I bought the AIO for that reason alone. It REALLY cleaned the build up. Even being a cheap but trusty local brand. Yes, I have nightmares of it leaking, but there's warranty for that

[@dinofrog926]

Linus’s Brain: “and such” Blood Clot: did you mean “and seurch”

[@calethal5822]

buys AIO before going to work, works, comes home and sees a video by Linus telling me not to buy an AIO...fml

[@troletrain]

Just return it and get a noctua cooler. Noctua is better than any AIO in every way except maybe looks which is subjective.

[@EatAssDieFast]

But does it really matter? If you enjoy tinkering with your computer just keep those expectations you had up and enjoy the ride. I always hate the "SHOULD'VE BOUGHT THIS LOL" comments. If you're having fun with it and the performance is good, why would it matter?

[@calethal5822]

im just playing i wanted it anyway to go with my new razer case (got the thermaltake floe with some extra fans) just find it funny on the day i buy im told not to

[@bird8040]

Keep it, AIOs are great. Some are quiter and cooler than air coolers and they look really clean. I have an NZXT cooler and I love it.

[@anmolsekhon768]

*AIO

[@KerbalRocketry]

makes sense: AIO water cooling is basically just heatpipes that use water given the case was already cool inside due to lots of space and intake fans the noctoa was gonna kick-ass. would be curious to see this tried with a less well ventilated case or small form factor build

[@KarfontaAlec]

Not really tho because the heatsinks are usually much larger, or at least can be, in water coolers. Something is definitely wrong with their testing because in cooler benchmarks AIO's are always ahead. And the bigger the AIO the better. I don't know what this non-sense is that their 240 performed better than a 360. It goes against basic physics.

[@Kennorx]

That's the principle of any watercooling method. Well at least those without any form of compressor actually cooling the water. It's just that the radiators of AIO watercoolers are pretty bad. Cooling comes down simply to surface area and heat distribution over said area. With water you can theoretically transport heat better but if it ends up with just running two pipes through some short metal blade it's never going to compete with a smart setup of heatpipes running through a much wider area. unless you have a ridiculously well designed radiator, a huge case that fits a huge radiator or even better an external radiator even custom watercooling won't get you that much better results. Well at least until you get to the point where the airflow to the parts that need cooling is obstructed. IN those cases watercooling is a necessity.

[@elijahwallace5300]

Ventilation makes almost no difference, shockingly. Unless you completely block flow, the difference is almost immeasurable. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3WmfoCcYsR0iac&t=435

[@KarfontaAlec]

@@Kennorx My custom loop brought my GPU temps from 80c to 40c under load with a much heavier overclock. Not that big of a difference? Oh and its much quieter. Sure maybe the radiators were just bad in these Corsair ones but they're obviously not all bad. Look at other benchmarks. All the AIOs are at the top, all the air coolers are at the bottom. Pretty much everywhere else says the D15 is on par with a 240 AIO but is easily beaten by a 360. www.anandtech.com/show/6830/cpu-air-cooler-roundup-six-coolers-from-noctua-silverstone-and-cooler-master/4 www.legitreviews.com/noctua-nh-d15-air-cpu-cooler-review_169205/5

[@a_commenter]

@@KarfontaAlec We're not talking about custom loops though, we're talking about AIOs.

[@wondertimobusiness4285]

If you adjust your parameters, like so: - noise does not matter (doesn't matter if its 30 or 60 db since you do your job remotely) - cheap price matters (lower price the better) - ambient temperature matters (lower room temperature the better, CPU blowing hot air is a problem) Which one woud be the best? - regular fan, stock cooler (intel) - regular fan w heatsink (midprice) - regular fan w heatsink (noctua) - AIO (corsair) - full scale liquid cooling

[@xSaddam85x]

4:48 highly suspicious roll of paper towel

[@TheMikael666]

so world of tanks missed the oportunity of using the code LinusTankTips?

[@boomznbladez405]

Weegee isnt very smart sometimes...

[@hassanlabyad4082]

@@boomznbladez405 Wg is greedy

[@boomznbladez405]

@@hassanlabyad4082 yeah they are... 76$ for a ship in WoWS is absurd...

[@hassanlabyad4082]

@@boomznbladez405 90$ for a tank That they souldn't sell and promised to not sell But yet they do it

[@boomznbladez405]

@@hassanlabyad4082 at least warships will remove ships and stop selling the ones they say they will... God damn Belfast lol

[@ddevulders]

Thank you Linus, instead of buying a water cooler I installed a dedicated HVAC system and ordered 25 bean bags.

[@misodent9794]

did you also install more RAM?

[@Dawn_8OA]

"Why you shouldn't water cool your PC" Me " don't tell me what to do shamwow."

[@tails324]

I love how I looked up a video so I could pretend to be non biased and yet I'm still gonna buy an AIO liquid cooler regardless because it looks cooler.

[@gutar5675]

This is a Noctua sponsored video and it's almost 4 years old. AIOs have gotten a lot better since then

[@FirestormX9]

@@gutar5675 but the person is already biased towards AIO's...

[@cahoutcharles961]

*laughs in AMD stock cooler*

[@vocken_og9617]

Wraith prism ?

[@ohyeahyeah1955]

@@thias1 or spire, i think

[@exi8550]

Spirebro

[@predator9424]

Which processor you have if have r7 or r9 then it's wraith prism if it's r5 then stealth

[@CommanderShepard05]

Stock cooler on R5 3600 is pure crap. My CPU is idling at 47 degrees. Looking for good options. I run python programs which hit 100 % utilization on single core , which is roughly 11% utilization on all cores. The temperatures hit 75 .

[@DaxVerus]

Coming back to this after taking a few physics courses I am realizing that the time it takes for the liquid inside the AIO to move to the plate it actually has time to warm up and because of the way a heat to cold pressure system works it is mixing temperature. Having the fans so close to the pipes it cools faster with less pressure required. Really neat.

[@badopcode]

Ya it's a known issue that all liquid coolers take longer to cool. You only really start seeing the cooling effect further after putting a heavy load. You can see the cooling almost instantly with heat pipes. What that translates to in a graph if you side-by-side the same CPU with the different cooling systems where you go from idle to max load is the water cool will have a hump in the temp where the heat pipes remains linear in it's thermal readings. The other thing that they pointed out here that I too have observed. The 3 fan radiators in ALL brands (not just Corsair) perform worst than the 2 fan radiator closed loop system counter-parts. I have no idea why this is happening but it is real. I've tested a number of brands with a threadripper. Enermax, Corsair, Deepcool, just to name a few... ALL of them the 2 fan shorter radiator greatly out performs the 3 fan. I am so lost on why.

[@MADED1TS]

Little does 2020 Linus know he uses water cooling in every build he makes in 2022

[@rawgov]

4:44 that innocently placed napkin roll (with a hastily torn napkin) indicates that a lot of private moments were experienced in this room in the name of testing :P

[@JraKn]

Hi Linus, my 4 year old daughter wants to say hi and that her name is Anna. She is confused as to why we can t visit you right now since we live on the island. So I told her that we would write to you instead. so Hello from Anna.

[@watermelonfriut6250]

Kidna wholesome

[@theworldisdepressing4620]

@@watermelonfriut6250 wholesome rare but good

[@watermelonfriut6250]

@@theworldisdepressing4620 word

[@craigemery856]

Corona?

[@charles7859]

Umm what

[@uss_04]

Old McTechTips had a water cooler. A-I A-I-O

[@ianciti]

i love this comment.

[@results4526]

Then Alex beat him with some air. A-I A-I-O

[@leonk6950]

@@moonshot9056 the joke is AIO, alll in one

[@ripetika1600]

Im Unsatisfied r/woooosh

[@TechTroppy]

@@moonshot9056 😂

[@vendys_flipz_]

It is clear here that air cooling crushes water cooling.😎😎😎👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[@killerrosebudiscool]

i think he should have looked at a few more Corsair AIOs i have an i7-9700F overclocked to 4.5GHz and with my cooler, the Corsair H115i RGB Platinum, it very RARELY reaches 45 C. it's usually sticking to the low to mid 30s

[@michaelhobart6611]

A room full of bright beanbag chairs: Linus: *Ghetto*

[@RonaldRaiden]

Hannibal: whack

[@komakozeee]

Ghetto because its a quick hap hazard way to sound proof

[@RonaldRaiden]

Ghetto blaster

[@singularitysquaredllc.895]

@@komakozeee said at the wrong time around the right people still could have gotten the shit slapped out of him.

[@RonaldRaiden]

Some ppl,prefer these bean bag chairs in their den/livingroom but I'll never understand why

[@stario5895]

Instead of water, use 100% PURE Russian Air! Freezes your computer to death!

[@nightwing7305]

Also nazis

[@mayattv4986]

*Laughs in Nordic*

[@timoconnell7194]

in soviet russia... fan cools you

[@GJorkinson]

There they are, the "Meanwhile in Soviet Russia," jokes......

[@seamusbyrne8259]

@@timoconnell7194 in Soviet Russia.. you cool fan

[@Bargate]

This isn't really water coolers fault but most people aren't using really powerful CPUs that even need a watercooler to begin with so they are out of the question for most people also AIO directly put the hot air into the room heating it up much faster while the pc is on which can be a problem if you don't want to spend a fortune on running your ac or you don't have ac like most of us UK viewers which completely removes me from wanting to use a water cooler ever really.

[@ALLAHALLAHism]

Just an FYI, no matter how far air cooling comes, it will never do better than water cooling. This is just physics. Water is better at removing heat than air.

[@danielmontes7042]

Have you realized water coolers still use air to dissipate heat?

[@ALLAHALLAHism]

@danielmontes7042 Have you realized water still removes heat better than just air alone and introduces a cooling medium rather than just removing heat? it is an indisputable fact that water cooling always outperforms air cooling.

[@danielmontes7042]

@@ALLAHALLAHism Well, you should look into how heat pipes work and what latent heat of vaporization is.

[@ALLAHALLAHism]

@@danielmontes7042 I know how it works. It's still inferior to water. Why do you think we use water to cool cars?