Discussion is one of the best methods to minimize misconceptions in controversial aspects. Blessed are those who arranged this discussion session! We have also lots of controversial issues which needs such an organized discussion programs.
@me_21211 ай бұрын
Mr yonas wahat you all said is logical plus with reasoning and commentary... The problems is most ppls follow thier religion blindly while faith is a belief in the absence of evidence.
Agree with you Yonas 100%! It is unfair that you have to debate two people who have the same position! Ethiopian Protestants can be narrow minded. Even If you ask American Conservative Christians, they would agree with you. Music is Music. There are beautiful music that are secular and there are garbage songs written in the name of Christianity. Only Ethiopian Protestants divide music between ዘፈን and መዝሙር! Without knowledge!
The comment sections reflect how most people misunderstood Yonas. His intention is not to lead people to sin. He has a based argument. His is saying "Orgies/ Komos the word translated in to ' Zefagnenet' in our Amharic Bible translation is not equivalent to secular music." Pr. Solomon in turn argued that the word zefen in our context as broad as it is can represent secular music. We cannot deny that in the Old testament Israel as a nation had cultures involving singing songs not related to worshiping God and these were mentioned in the Bible without getting neither condemnation nor approval. I'd want to add this: what's morally acceptable even for us evangelical Christians is not necessarily derived from the Bible alone. Culture, language and social issues cannot be neglected.These factors profoundly affect how we interpret the Bible. I'm not saying let's see some secular songs as morally acceptable; I'm just saying let's try to understand what Yonas is saying before calling him names.
@afromedia67283 жыл бұрын
Bravo Yonas Gorfe! ሙዚቃ መስማት ግን የእውነት ይጠቅማል።
@buddhomi8 жыл бұрын
Yonas made a compiling argument.. I can't wait part 2... Good job yonas. Tebark
Thanks God! bizu ewnetegna ye egziyabehare lejoch selalun geta yebarek. Zefagn Mengist Semay Aygebam. Yonas, I advise you to pray a lot if you can, to get a good answer from holy spirit otherwise ask others to pray for you. In my opinion you are under presure of Setan so you really need deliverance. I hope you will be a good testimony about this issue in the near future. Egziyabehare ahunem be sera lay new!
@halakedegela189410 ай бұрын
yon god bless you and all their.
@jesuslovelove7038 жыл бұрын
geta yebarekachu mechereshawen esk may chekoyalew
@rutzewdu17418 жыл бұрын
betame desiyilal tebarku
@aynidawit66228 жыл бұрын
abye betam melkam sera serthal zemnh yebarek berta
Your agreement is really biblical. You have submitted your self to the devil. You and Yonas Gorfe are followers of Lucifer who is going to Hell accompanied by multitudes in which you are a member. Repent today, come to Jesus Christ before you are lost forever.
@jolememeru4718 жыл бұрын
+Yegeta leje Neng ግብዝ
@gizawAdugna12438 жыл бұрын
I do not think so. how come you said that zefen is good for the kingdome of God? if you want to sing for devil there is specific place like night club chichinia, but not in the house of God Almighty? we were fadeup of this life and accepted Jesus and you guys wanted to go where we were, you will get it, egna gin amlitenal.
In a way the discussion was eye opening and educational, however, there were holes in their supporting evidences and a huge logical fallacy.
@abenezertagesse55887 жыл бұрын
zefagnoch ye egziabihern mengist aywersum geiatiya mihraf 5
@tube45458 жыл бұрын
ere tew bakih zefen enzfen bilo medrek lay mekeraker zefaNnet hatiyat new tew tew
@selamawitmakonnen14728 жыл бұрын
zefangenet hatiat new. that's it arat neteb!!!!!!!! We don't need to deny about it.
@bayisadebela13314 жыл бұрын
Sorry I dont care about any person talk and says ,what we must care is what God said about this issue. Just tell us what God said,all praise and Glory must be to God. But secular song is about praise other than God . Please don't deceive people. But what we must care was how we bring those who lost.
wendime solomon ewnet new yalkew shir ylutal zefeninm mezmurinm israelia
@lov38888 жыл бұрын
Ante moyaye new eyalk yegzabher kale letsherw new ahun gbage ante focuse yarkew yegzabher kal sayhone sela ante endat argahe gabi tasgble new Egzabher mihrtune yarglhe
hi Abiy, I need your copyright permission to use this video. keep up the good job.very encouraging. Mr Camp.
@ecclesiamedia3167 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr. Camp You didnt tell us why you need the copyright. If you use for youtube you can use it us it is hear. But we recorded people to watchd it freely so Not allowed to sell it or other money makning tings. Thanks For watching our videos
yene tikyake zefen wist mindnew tadya you are those things eko yeset amlko
@dinkuakenore22438 жыл бұрын
we don't follow other countries Mr yonas we follow bible may be eha mawoke maseloki lehone yechelale egziabher aymerhene yemelsew
@dilbiyoseph74168 жыл бұрын
Secular music has a very dangerous way of manipulating our minds. Yes there are some secular songs that talk about sexual sinus and immorality in general, that is obviously a sin. But the ones some people put out as "the good ones" are actually a lot more dangerous. They have a way of making us believe in 'fate' rather than "faith" they make us believe that all you need is to be good and there is no need of believing in God. So we can believe in luck rather than grace. So my point is, secular music is a sin period.
@dilbiyoseph74168 жыл бұрын
And not to mention it is the worship of the devil, so please stop fooling yourselves
@yedidyaful8 жыл бұрын
Is that what the book of Songs of Solomon and Ecclesiastic do to you? I am not trying to instigate an endless argument but please go back read those books and tell me what they are speaking of?
@dilbiyoseph74168 жыл бұрын
Yedidya Seifu sorry I don't get what u meant by that. Can u explain clearly?
menm aynet saitiset betetekes ye egzabhirn hasab atagengm yonas eski ke egzabhir menfes gar gezi wesedeh awera temaker men yelhal ye egzabhir menfes lealem kotet endih kekenah leamlakhes men endtle
@እየሱስያድናልብቻውንያድና8 жыл бұрын
አቶ ዮናስ ስታወራ እራሴ ያመኛል
@MahiSeyoum Жыл бұрын
😂
@lov38888 жыл бұрын
Ewnet new be moya new yetrgmew
@hiwetmesgana73888 жыл бұрын
beand eger hulet zafe yelem
@shaashaa18908 жыл бұрын
Hiwet Mesgana
@bethkebede30738 жыл бұрын
Hulu yemote endehon abren enmut bay nk yonas? Set le set ena wond le wond bahun gize bezu ye wechi betechrstian tefkdalch, enesu miyargutn menkebel kehon gay ena lesbian hatiyat nw belen lalemabarer yihenens benkebl teru nw satel atkerm. Ye kenya Christina eko geta hoy maren yemiyasbel Christina nw be hatiyat west eywagnech yalchen betechrstian enemsel malet betam yasaferal. Sw tednakfo bewdekebt dengay hulum wedkwalena lemen egna enkeraln abren enkoshesh malet asafari nw. Endet be tsdek ena be kedsena menor endalbn mikerenen enji be mesaf kedus west gelts hono tsfo yaln ewnet anseto tadagin mawenabed ena ke egziabher marak telek adega nw. Hulum sw yatefal seheteten amno sayrefed yiker belugn malet awakinet newna please ato yonas ye mimels leb yinurk. Fitken hulu achelmotal eko beleloch lay yeminbebew selam yelm antegar.
@elshadaigeta44647 жыл бұрын
TELEY YEGETA LIJ TELEY EGNA AMILAKACHIN LIYU NEWINA LIYUWOCH ENIHUN!!!!!
@hiwetmesgana73888 жыл бұрын
lek ebab lehiwan endesetat meker new enji ye egzabhirn hadab yemigelts aydelem yeante agebgabi guday ye ante selehone leante enji lenga aydelem enga angebagabi guday sew wedebkerstos endit endimeta new be westeh yalew alem gena selalweta new
I'm orthodox. Zefen sin new. chikoch enji amilak aymesegenem lol.
@lensakuma55474 жыл бұрын
Marta Yadeta ትክክል
@alemyadetal26924 жыл бұрын
👫👪😍😍📖☝️
@tigistmatta57174 жыл бұрын
Wogelin be limide sitatena kou minim ayimesilim be mefesi siune gine uluem iyetadesik timetale buzu tebebegna litiune tichilale neger gine wogel be mefesi new mitawokaw geta eyesus le betikiristan mireti na yikirta yabizalat ye tebebegnoch tibab atefalawu yalawu geta ersu tibebegn unu yitebikati
@hei7956 Жыл бұрын
ይሄ አለማዊ ዉይይት ነዉ መንፈሳዊ ዉይይት አይደለም, ወጣቱን ግራ አታጋቡት
@hiwetmesgana73888 жыл бұрын
gera lemagabat geta gebtoh yemetah yemeselal yonas ayzoh tewew ena gitahn akberew lemanm betzefen mnem wetit yelewm hulum kentu new gita gen lezelalem new ke kalu lay mekenes mashshalm aychalm mechmerem aychalm bealem yalew hulu kentu new chmist ena phisices aydelem ye egzabhir kal be saintiset ewket formula yetetsafe sayhon abatoch bemnfes kedus temertew yetsafuln new enji keniyawi aydelum so bake on yonas
@እየሱስያድናልብቻውንያድና8 жыл бұрын
ወይ ጉድ አቶ ዮናስ የአለም ነገር ሞልቶብሀል ጌታ ይርዳህ
@samriyegetalji75678 жыл бұрын
ስምን መልአክ ያወጣዋል አደል የሚባለው እውነትም ዮናስ ጎርፌ
@salamawafi14546 жыл бұрын
አሁን ቆይ የናተን እንስማ ወይስ የእግዚአብሔርን
@asfawdemisew4277 Жыл бұрын
Pastor Nigusse and Pastor Solomon thank you for the response that is presented according to the principle of speaking the truth in love. Zefen does not have any contribution for our growth to Christ likeness. We will continue to argue until this poison is ---------How long will it take?-----
@jesuslovelove7038 жыл бұрын
be ewent geta zemenhen hulu yebark wendem selemon
@genetgashawabebe87688 жыл бұрын
Be Ene Amelkaket Sew ke Geta bet yemiwetaw Sew teketelo kemeta new enji Ye Geta Fikir Yegebaw Getan Yeteketele Sew Ke Betekiristian Tegefetero Beweta Enkwan Ebetu Kuche Belo Getan Yamelkal Enji Wede Alem Ayehedem, Lelaw Be Bible Zefen Hatiyat Aydelem Tebelo Altesafem Bibal Enkwan Bewesetachen Yalew Ewnetegnaw Ye Kiristos Menfes Zefen Endenetela yaderegenal. Ene Bebekule Alem Ena Zefen Selchetogn New Wede Geta Yemetawet Wedyee Semu Yebarek.
@masiyegetalijemasiyegetali55058 жыл бұрын
Wodimachi salmuni zamni yibarki ato yonasi ate lamimat twiladi latsitalalfi malikiti zafanihaxati idalhonanow ide gin silate batmi inazinalene geta iyesusi asitasabi yifawisi machemi bihoni anizafnimi!!!!!
Does this guy know all this popular singers who are singing demonic lyrics were all started from church choir? And why is he mixing race and zefen? This guy need deliverance big time. And of course anyone who is zefegn you want the church to keep him? Nonsense. Just when I thought I heard it all....people, the end times are here.
@yedidyaful8 жыл бұрын
This is how you are speaking of and treating the people that you disagree with? If your definition of deliverance is to become like you, then I would rather die forever!
@mromha8 жыл бұрын
Yedidya Seifu Well I rather not. I really don't wish a death upon you specially FOREVER. But don't u believe we all need deliverance form our ungodly desires, attitudes, and thoughts??? Honestly if you accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior and u told him to come to your love and allow him to lead you just the way he pleased, can you do anything that doesn't glorify him? In my opinion I can't. Since my /our Daly prayer is to change me/us into the likeness of his Son Jesus Christ. I really don't understand it really. He talks about our generation too, am 25 years old brother and this broke my heart. All we need is God and his holly spirit to guid us into the life and purpose that we are created to live on this earth and accomplish that and one day we will see the face of our King and our hope. Honestly if he really cares about youth and the next generation this wasn't the way, I don't see the love here. No body needs other persons help to become or to entertain the world, the flesh has its own way of rebellion. Especially when you are young.Being a Christian is all about believing that father God send Jesus and he crucified in the cross for my sin,rose from dead on the third day send the holt spirit for me to guid me and hopping that he will come and he will rain forever. And tell me believing all this how can one mix anything to this truth and produce a strange fruit? Since the begging of time everything has changed but only one thing remain the same and that is holly spirit. This is what I mean brother/sister when I said he needs deliverance. Deliverance is not all about being possessed by evil spirit sometimes out attitude works against our own salivation. grace is available , God is for us why look into other way when we have him all for us. All we need is to love him more to love each other. God bless you.yididya. I apologize if my comment has offended you but my believe is this. Your sister Meron.
@yedidyaful8 жыл бұрын
seriously! you are just dodging right now. I am speaking of your character and how you imply that Yonas needs a deliverance for he holds different views than yours. If that was not indeed your intention then you could have said We or I need a deliverance. anyways we can just drop it all and agree to disagree.
@mromha8 жыл бұрын
Yedidya Seifu fair enough lets just drop it . I guess it's useless to comment back and forth.