Klingon Warbirds Attack V'Ger (Trek 2009 ships)

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Three warbirds (EDIT: That's what this design is called in the movie, I know they're based on the D7 battlecruiser, so please stop trying to correct it) featured in the 2009 Star Trek reboot (they were in Kirk's Kobaiyashi Maru test) test their mettle against Voyager Six, a.k.a. V'Ger. Same scenario, same creepy, electronic end.
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[@peterlohnes1]

People don't realize how much time this takes, I think you did an awesome job Glenn.

[@GlennG5150]

Thank you, I appreciate that, yes these are very time-intensive, and even listing the steps needed to do it would take me quite a while!

[@ploppysonofploppy6066]

Klingon investigation technique 1: Shoot at it 2: See what happens 3: Leg it!

[@kireta21]

No joke, it's called recon by fire: shoot it, and see if and how it fires back. You can even say that reconnaissance succeded: it's artificial, well armed and willing to fire back.

[@juliocesar-xr6eb]

hahahaha

[@ireneparkin3360]

Or as Cinema Sins puts it "We don't know what this thing is, let's shoot it."

[@seand.g423]

@@kireta21 I mean plus, if you can't get any sensor reading through the cloud... full spread ain't exactly the _worst_ way to rough out a scale...

[@qetoun]

4: with honour!

[@tehpw7574]

Loved it.... right up to the point that 'Evasive' meant doing Macross Valkyrie speed maneuvers. Really need to slow that down a bit...

[@TheCormTube]

The evasives on the film were perhaps a little too slow and calm but these manoeuvres are way too fast.

[@justinmburns]

I laughed out loud when this happened. 😂

[@theloweffortchannel7211]

@@TheCormTube Honestly it's a bit realistic considering how fast their ships are

[@keyboardt8276]

@@hammerofdavey realistically though, if they're supposed to have the kind of performance they're stated to have (getting to high percentages of lightspeed in seconds to minutes at most) even this is pretty tame.

[@manofcultura]

Too be fair with inertial dampeners and warp field assisted impulse drives, you could argue this is accurate. The reason why Star Trek doesn’t have fighter craft is because huge capital ships are basically just as maneuverable because of warp technology and gravitational manipulation.

[@georgeorwell4534]

The Klingon captain is none other than Mark Lenard, Spock's "father". He became the first actor to portray a Romulan ("Balance of Terror"), a Vulcan ("Journey to Babel"), and a Klingon ("STTMP").

[@ploppysonofploppy6066]

Great nerding! With my nerdy cap I'd add that Mark was also General Urko in the Planet of the Apes series.

[@georgeorwell4534]

ploppy son of ploppy a Nerdy Silver Star for that one!

[@ploppysonofploppy6066]

@@georgeorwell4534 Oh I've always wanted one of those! Happy nerd signing off.

[@rickhunter6516]

To this day, I still cannot tell that that is Mark Lenard. Amazing makeup work!

[@rickhunter6516]

@Stevetheman55 consider me eddified! 😁🖖

[@Rnzlr]

Now THAT is how Klingons attack: a full spread from everybody!

[@vdimasteremeritus]

Many people don’t know that it was James “Scotty” Doohan who provided the voice and first recorded Klingon speech. He basically said he just made it up and the rest is history.

[@RoseCardassia-nn4sb]

Yes I heard that he had a part on the beautiful Klingon language as well, and for anyone who also wants to acquire this beautiful language as I love the Klingon language and am in the process of wanting to acquire it as well I think just diving into the language immersion style is the best way to go for those who want to just dive full immersion ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ but really use any technique that you feel best suits your liking.

[@jamesappling1212]

Watching the Klingons have enough sense to do a tactical retreat to have time to report back. That shows a lot of development for the characters. 👍

[@gamewizard1760]

A real tactical retreat would have involved going to warp, instead waiting around for V'Ger to reload so they can be destroyed, too. These Klingons were not smart at all.

[@jamesappling1212]

@@gamewizard1760 With the damping field around V'ger. It's a Testament to Their designs They could move at all.

[@richgweil]

Love this bit. Great job! It was just a few years ago that I realized that Mark Lenard (actor who played Sarek) plays the Klingon commander here.

[@derekspence4068]

"What the hell", these were K"t"inga class heavy battlecruiser's!

[@DarthVader-1701]

K'tinga, before discovery tried to rewrite history, the word K'tinga had one apostrophe.

[@gamewizard1760]

They were stupid to attack something they didn't understand in the first place, but even more stupid, was the other two captains not warping out after seeing the first ship being destroyed. The last two ships might have survived if the Klingons had the sense to get the hell out of there when they saw the power they were facing.

[@jameshammers5239]

I HAVE BEEN AROUND MUSIC FOR ABOUT 55 YEARS, AND HAVE HEARD COUNTLSS COMPOSITIONS.. THIS IS BY FAR THE ABSOLUTE BEST !

[@kevinfelts7245]

My dad took my brother and I to see the original Star Trek. Theater was standing room only. All the seats were full, and people were lined upon the walls.

[@milkshake519]

How thats never gonna be repeated avain ... in Corona world

[@grandmastere2444]

I'm a new subscriber and awesome Trek video, craggy dash 1

[@brianchu3317]

This was such an amazing opening scene to an highly expected movie. It didn’t occurred to me then but I wonder why the Klingon captains didn’t jump to warp speed to escape the V’ger weapon.

[@thelastamericanflapper]

They were already at warp. You'll note when the Enterprise first approaches V'ger later in the film that the engines are lit indicating it's at warp. It's the only way V'ger could've traversed that much space in the amount of time it takes in the film.

[@jasonburchett4260]

​@@thelastamericanflappernot saying you are wrong, or I disagree. But.....Tom Paris said in STV, when going faster than the speed of light there is no left or right. Now I understood that to mean, your not going to do evasive maneuvers, let alone a U turn as the Klingons clearly did. The writers for Trek always contradict themselves. Regardless, the reason why the Klingons were defeated was because they had no Plot Armor. They were there to show the audience how powerful Veger was. Letting them escape would not shown the audience on how much a threat Veger was.

[@samworf6550]

Simple answer: they were already at warp, but V'ger is so huge (2 AU in diameter, or about 200 million miles across, a distance that would take 16 minutes to cross at warp 1) that they look like they're going slow

[@mikesharp1974]

Because V'ger and the Klingon ships are already traveling at warp speed. Read the book.

[@TJWinter1221]

No, no, no. This was Klingon space, and they were prepared to fight to the death of an unresposive invader. It was a show of brute force and a warrior mentality. A good death is to die in battle with honor than to surrender and admit defeat for the Klingons.

[@scottmcintosh4397]

The ships originally depicted in STTMP are K'Tinga class battlecruisers & were designated as such from before the very first day of release for STTMP. Good vid. ✨✨✨✨✨🚀

[@incrediblemichael]

@scot FALSE thats d 7 not k'tingas

[@jiyu9694]

@@incrediblemichael Sorry, that's not correct. These are K'tinga class heavy battle cruisers. The D7 is an older, smaller, light battle cruiser that has no aft torpedo tube, only one in the bow of the ship. The K'Tinga class was the first Klingon cruiser to have more than one torpedo tube.

[@llynellyn]

@@incrediblemichael The D7 are only seen in ToS (and technically Discovery), the ones seen in the movies, TNG, DS9, etc are the K'Tinga class which replaced the D7. Don't worry though a lot of people make the same mistake as you due to the way they look fairly similar (They share the same general shape albeit the K'Tinga is roughly 50% larger with a proportionally shorter neck) and the fact that in an episode of Voyager they encountered a D7 which was represented on screen by a K'Tinga model as the studio didn't want to pay for a new D7 model.

[@DarthVader-1701]

@@jiyu9694 If you look at the blueprints and schematics of a D7 it is slightly longer than the K'tinga.

[@AvroBellow]

@@incrediblemichael No Samantha, you're wrong. Scott is 100% correct.

[@robertisaac4357]

klingons must be heavy smokers by the looks of their bridge........

[@DarthVader-1701]

Have you seen the food they eat, the flatulence alone will peel the paint off the walls.

[@BlackPill-pu4vi]

Looks like RJ Reynolds finally found new customers in the future. That's unfiltered Camel smoke for sure.

[@FormatorBlack]

Their life support wasn't as sophisticated (reference the Trellisane Confrontation) as that of that of the Federation....plus, they were heavy smokers! Probably Winston, that's a tough cigarrette!

[@gamewizard1760]

Early Klingon ships were known for poor reliability. There was always something breaking or leaking.

[@1439315]

found out recently tobacco actually an appetie suppressent; smoking more cigars then ever now. Time for more red whine. cheers

[@themagus5906]

Nice re-edit. Many fans have tried to re-imagine this opening scene (one of the best in the movie; I remember watching it in the theater), but I think it's tough to beat the impact of the original film way back then. Apples to oranges now. Like trying to re-make the original "Godzilla" now, scene-for scene, with today's effects. Or re-paint the Mona Lisa with slightly different colors. It just can't be done with the same "gravitas". Thanks for your interpretation and efforts!

[@joenoffsinger6376]

Lost me on the “swoosh” but still impressive work

[@CAwolfguy]

These are NOT 'warbirds', they are "D"-Class battlecruisers.

[@medson71]

These models are from the 2009 Star Trek 'reboot'. For some reason they are called warbirds there...

[@stephenbland2111]

Canon officially classifies them as K'tinga D-7 battle cruisers.

[@Dualhammers]

Actually they're polygons rendered in a 3D graphics package into a visual media format being displayed on your monitor.

[@CAwolfguy]

@@Dualhammers LOL!!! Good one! Actually not a Trekkie (Trekker), and definitely not a softhead...too old.

[@BioGoji-zm5ph]

@@Dualhammers That would explain a lot of things.

[@Big_Joe570]

Of all of the fan made CGI clips of that scene, this was by far the best; however, I have one pick. After the Klingon commander calls for evasive, the three ships pull off. One goes port, one goes starboard, and one executes an Immelmann Turn. The speed of which resemble the maneuver of an F-18. The D-7 Battle-cruisers were big, lumbering, behemoths. They should have moved at about 1/4 the speed they did. Otherwise, well done.

[@Phrancis5]

Really? This one's better and they don't maneuver ridiculously fast either. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaHJpKOapqyqe80

[@TheMOSEPH]

You really should look around more. There are quite a few out there that rival professionally made effects. One example, look for the 4K Voyager opening sequence.

[@aaronmatuszny8856]

Yeah, they moved at cartoon speed. A real aircraft would never be able to move that fast...even some big radio control planes would be hard pressed.

[@jletv2212]

You're a certified joke and probably a sock puppet to suggest this is even remotely good. All of these lame Blender versions of this scene were crushed. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmjJgJJsg5V8iqM

[@BioGoji-zm5ph]

But aren't they in space, where gravity wouldn't affect them the way it would in a planet's atmosphere?

[@jasonseiler5364]

You have to admit that's the most menacing use of a Harp and Pipe Organ I've ever heard ...

[@thecloudtherapist]

The speed at which the Klingons broke off their attack was the deal breaker for me. Good effort everywhere else 👍

[@kcjazzcat7822]

One of my favorite scenes of any Star Trek movie. Scared the wiz out of me seeing this on the big screen.

[@bcn1gh7h4wk]

40 years later and they still look badass.

[@LordTalax]

40 years? This is a new rendering.

[@joshsuperduty1270]

Fun fact the Amat bridge set is also the torpedo room set in Star Trek 2 wrath of khan

[@daimyo2k]

Well done Glenn!! Love the cruisers!

[@madelineschroeder]

They have a very good Design, EVERYONE LOVE THEM!❤❤❤

[@razorfett147]

I was wondering when someone was gonna talk about the fact that V-ger is STILL onits way to Earth in the Kelvin timeline. Hell...the whale probe, too

[@Hjerte_Verke]

Yeah but how did we avert the rise of Khan in the late 1990s? He was said to be the best of the tyrants so I was looking forward to his benevolent rule. Some foolhardy time traveler must have altered the timeline!

[@spaceflight1019]

Doc and Marty?

[@TheCormTube]

Apparently one ship being destroyed and Kirk not meeting his father changed the whole universe....the Enterprise was built on the planet's surface and was completely different, every ship in the fleet was also different, bigger, full of pipes so perhaps the whales and v'ger were somehow affected.

[@DarthVader-1701]

@@TheCormTube Technology in the Kelvin timeline is extremely primitive compared to the original series, They don't use anti matter the warp engines do not have bussard collectors, The computer core is nonexistent because it's supposed to be in the middle of saucer but on the kelvin constitution there's a giant open space in the middle of a saucer, their brigs have some kind of nano technology plastic windows instead of forcefields, The hand phaser have only two settings versus the roughly 15 settings of the original, Their sensora apparently are completely blind while at warp, Judging from the movies there's no such thing as miniaturization technology in the Kelvin timeline, Not to mention the fact that the secondary hull is not even compartmentalised to guard against hull breaches nor they have emergency forcefields or emergency bulkheads. Popular Mechanics has a diagram of the Kelvin enterprise and its a complete mess. Their ship phasers also do not have a wide beam setting or a beam setting at all and their photon torpedoes do not have proximity detonation.

[@BondFreek]

The JJ Abrams movies and all the other new Star Trek are not canon. Only the ones created by Rick Berman and Gene Roddenberry are Canon.

[@Robert_Douglass]

Yes, those D7s did look something like a bunch of pixels on a screen. Later graphics systems have made the task of realistic vessel simulation, in both form and function, much more challenging.

[@michaellarson938]

The ones in the original movie, were realistic as it gets models. The quality of the original movie was better unity they digitalized it, which was fine until everyone's computers and TV a became digital with far more pixels. If you take the original film and digitalize it with moder pixel ratio you would see a big difference.

[@MikePhillips-x6m]

​@@michaellarson938 Even though this was made 1979 Star Trek The Motion Picture is still a visual master piece. Only hardcore visual critics like yourself would critcise this. Besides there is alot of CGI movies now a days that look crap.

[@bpsitrep]

Good job in remake. Those were K'Tinga class cruisers in the original movie as well. D7's have a smooth outer layer. I still don't why they didn't jump to warp and bug out.

[@timcassaday3045]

it would dishonor their families for generations. a klingons fight to the death.

[@bpsitrep]

@@timcassaday3045 Most possible reason. But they could have got away to warn the Empire and returned to attack (with the same results no doubt.)

[@johnpaulmierz6978]

It's already moving at Mach 7 go take a lot to escape that

[@perfectionbox]

"Captain, recommend we go to warp!" "Nah, continue fleeing those indestructible torpedoes at impulse speed."

[@olternaut]

I'm thankful the makeup and prosthetics for the Klingons improved over time.

[@aaronstestlab]

The Klingons certainly got a makeup upgrade between TOS and STTMP

[@CougarLand]

Ok, so you've proven the original movie looks waaaayyyy better.

[@dale1978b]

Stunning achievement well done Glenn

[@larrysouthern5098]

BRAVO!! NOW this is the best intro I've seen SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE ORIGINAL MOVIE!!

[@robertmcpherson1617]

The music! BRILLIANT!!!

[@richx5064]

I like the way these Klingons look. It looks like their spinal cord travels over the top of their head.

[@andrewthorne3570]

The design is based on section of different spines

[@BostLabs]

I'm sorry, Glenn. I have no idea how this managed to slip through my feeds. Considering the length of time that this was made, it is awesome looking. Subscribed.

[@RookBytes]

Respect! Like a mo'fo. Amazing job sir!!

[@blackdog6969]

Good edit. I know this is an older post and I'm guessing one of your earliest pieces. From a technical point, the only issues would be (possible editing out the originals as I thought I saw a bit of odd blur around the ships, could be wrong) the camera movements seem a bit off but all of that could be explained by the models being a much higher fidelity visually than the original footage. Honestly, if they appeared a bit blurry or grainy then it would have been perfect. Again, solid job. It's amazing. I might know a bit about CGI work and all that but if I were to try it, it wouldn't be to the level you did here

[@GlennG5150]

Thank you for the thoughtful critique, I did try initially to throw some film grain/blur in but I'm absolute pants at that, so I just went with a mild generic grain.

[@johnmarks227]

Best music for Klingon ships in any series.

[@dmanc85]

Great work. What I hated about TMP is that the "uniforms" made it all look like Starfleet were wearing pyjamas, far too casual! Glad they brought in the Monster Maroon for ST:2 onwards.

[@NyuuMikuru1]

Ah Mark Leonard, never knew it was you sitting in the captian’s seat.

[@theartsig]

Good. I especially liked the underside, up-angled view of the cruiser during the v'ger bolt hit.

[@GlennG5150]

Thanks, I tried to give some differing camera work from the original and added extra torpedo shots, because, hey, they're Klingons.

[@tiplady44]

Just love the soundtrack 👍

[@Renserin]

One of the weaknesses of that original scene was never really showing the Klingon vessels in motion, just medium/long distance footage of the ships appearing to hang motionless. This video gives a much better sense of it being an actual battle with only a couple of additional scenes.

[@U2QuoZepplin]

Isn't the Warbird the name used for the Romulan ships? Klingons do Battle Ships and Birds of Prey dob't they? Oh and Vor-Char Battle ships in TNG era?

[@tracynation2820]

Superb. 💙 T.E.N.

[@CovFlag]

That sound track... brings back some good memories even in 2021!

[@johntimoney569]

Love the music when the Klingons approach Vger.

[@blindandwatching]

First the cloud is really large, it would stretch from the orbit of Venus to Jupiter. The Klingons are already moving at close to their maximum warp speed. When they realize there is a large ship in there they have to reverse direction and pull ahead of it. The cloud is also moving at around warp 7 to begin with. It's not a quick turn.

[@AdhamOhm]

The size of the cloud depends on what version you're watching. In the theatrical version, one of the Epsilon 9 crew says that the cloud is "82 AUs (astronomical units) in diameter". That is insanely large and much larger than distance between the orbits of Venus and Jupiter at 4.48 AUs. The Director's Cut takes the cloud down to a much more reasonable 2 AUs. At 82 AUs, the cloud would envelop all of the Solar System well into the Kuiper Belt, past Pluto.

[@johntracy72]

@@AdhamOhm 82 AU's is the average diameter of Pluto's orbit.

[@blindandwatching]

@@AdhamOhm I didn't get the figure right from the director's cut.

[@blindandwatching]

@@johntracy72 Pluto's orbit has a semi-major axis 39.482 AU

[@Kalebfenoir]

...ya know, it always bugs me in a ship design when I see things like pistons being used as support pillar struts. It makes me think that something around them is supposed to move and retract or that the section of ship they're on is supposed to move. Like, the bridge has a bunch of piston strut supports, like shock absorbers...but why? Why not just solid pillars? Why make them look like they flex and collapse and extend, if they're not to supposed to?

[@robertfeld5829]

This is amazing.

[@798christian]

Klingon Warbirds? That's D7 Cruisers 👍🏻

[@798christian]

@Cliven Longsight We're talking about this clip here and it's from the motion picture and not from JJ's movie

[@Species5008]

They're modified D-7's actually. Called the K'Tinga class

[@TriviaFreak]

Okay, just from the warbird de-rezzing effect alone, I'm giving you a like.

[@GlennG5150]

Thanks, probably the most fun part of the project!

[@Steve-bo4cs]

Best one yet !! 😮

[@johntracy72]

These Klingons knew they took on more than they could handle.

[@WannabeWRX]

I do like the V'Ger Data Pattern Effect for the Warbirds you did in this vid.

[@GlennG5150]

Thanks, the Saber effect by Video Copilot was essential for making the effect really pop.

[@WannabeWRX]

@@GlennG5150 I think I'd be interested to see your take on the 2009 Enterprise's encounter with V'Ger.

[@LordTalax]

What's the purple stripe on the front of the ships? I don't recall that from the 2009 movie.

[@GlennG5150]

I'm surprised it took four years for someone to ask this question! No, it wasn't there in the 2009 movie, but I took a small amount of creative license there and wanted to portray that frontal ridge as an animated active scanner or deflector.

[@43nostromo]

Wow, Glenn G. This is one of best re-imaginings I've seen. Nicely done. And, thanks for keeping Jerry Goldsmith's music intact.

[@christopherg2347]

Some thoughts: - This was propably the first time the "Worf effect" was put into screenplay. Just showing "how do the Klingons fare" to establish the new foe is dangerous. - "Sir, it is firing back!" "Ah, so it knows the 'Vulcan Hello'. Let us see if it is worthy of respect!" - "V'ger uses select and Cut. It is super effective." - Nice idea trying to fire a torpedo into the enemy weapon, hoping it would maybe dissipate it. A pity the torpedo was absorbed before it could detonate.

[@mikecurtis11]

A Klingon battleship goes "whoosh?!?" It sounds like when Xena turns her head fast. :-)

[@aspopulvera9130]

I could imagine how much embarrassment they would feel if they knew they got yeetus deletus by a small early twenty first century space probe lol

[@F40PH-2CAT]

Everyone in the theater: " those are Klingons?"

[@GatchamanG4]

Outstanding!

[@susanesquer1520]

Excellent job ! (1 Aug 2018 1820 hours)

[@GlennG5150]

Thank you very much!

[@deathstrike]

Eventually it was revealed that the energy cloud held a Borg dreadnought in the interior. V'Ger had simply been added to complete it's mission. The phrase "no chance in hell" probably flashed through the Klingon captain's mind seconds before the digitizer globe captured him. (Some speculation as to whether anyone was killed or just preserved in V'Ger's memory banks)

[@BioGoji-zm5ph]

Both. It's probably both.

[@jiyu9694]

Deathstrike - Revealed where? That's total nonsense. There was nothing in the cloud but V'ger. The Borg had nothing to do with this.

[@spaceflight1019]

The story I recall hearing was that the Klingons, like the Epsilon station, were digitized and returned to normal after V'ger completed its mission.

[@jiyu9694]

@@spaceflight1019 That didn't happen in the movie, all the digitized people and objects were assumed to have become part of what V'ger evolved into. Remember Ilia was digitized and never came back. Decker and the Ilia robot with her memories joined and evolved with V'ger. Decker and Ilia were both listed in Starfleet records as "missing."

[@eagle219406]

@@jiyu9694 it was in a book, which isn't considered official canon. Basically in the book, the "living machines" that spoke of, we're the Borg.

[@crgkevin6542]

Very well done! My only complaint are how they broke formation after the failed torpedo salvo, it didn’t feel like how ships normally move in ‘Trek. It’s a little jarring to see the big Klingon ships that usually have a bit of weight when they maneuver flit across the screen suddenly. Other than that, excellently done!

[@GlennG5150]

That's probably the most troublesome part for me too, but in the original, all they did was elevate their noses slightly, not very dramatic - but yes, my version is a bit abrupt, but I also had timing constraints to work with (being a fixed-time shot) - if I could've, I would slow it to about half the speed I used.

[@Carthaginian60]

@@GlennG5150 It's way too abrupt--it's the only bad thing about the whole video. These spacecraft are equivalent to battleships and cruisers. They're not fighter planes.

[@Shortsircut1]

Great video, very nicely done! Thank you.

[@Mirage_Mach5]

Cool video! The one thing I never understood about this particular scene in the film was why the last Klingon ship didn't go into warp after seeing what had happened to its sister ships.

[@bpen76]

Maybe they couldn't establish a warp field.

[@D-2-the-no]

they were actually at high warp speed the whole time. the film didnt depict warp speed very well, which is why they couldnt outrun veegers digitizer. the enterprise scene after is also at warp which is easier to see because the impulse engines are off and the warp nacells are lit up blue 👍

[@magicmulder]

I never understood the whole sequence. With their size difference the Klingons are like ants farting at a tank, and the tank actually bothers to shoot back?

[@LancetFencing]

nice work

[@extersmedleyjr118]

The best thing about this movie was the theme created for the Klingons! Its perfect.. As for the movie well that is another story!

[@ericdunn360]

Which do you like better, The Klingon Theme, Or the Imperial March?

[@randolphmeredyth-drake7514]

That was awssome!

[@codybreux4311]

The first time we here the Klingons war theme!

[@montedoran9305]

Nice job. Creative re-imagination of the 1979 version. 👏👏👏

[@BondFreek]

They are not war birds. They are battle cruisers. The only bird type of ship that the Klingons had was the birds of prey. These ships they stole from the romulans designs. Romulans are the ones who have the bird of prey painted on their ships.

[@libertycowboy2495]

Very good, attack pattern makes more sense. Wow, the pinned post lowers my opinion a lot.

[@justinmburns]

One thing that I’ve always wondered about this scene is why the Klingons’ last ship didn’t go to warp speed to escape. They just witnessed their most powerful weapon do literally nothing to the cloud and two of their ships be disintegrated. They’d made the choice to flee so dying with honor wasn’t the reason. Why not warp out of there immediately. Plenty of time to calculate a destination. Meh. Just interesting. Also I think this movie could be remade with modern technology and some minor script tweaking and be really really awesome.

[@GlennG5150]

What people tend to forget about this scene is that V'Ger and the Klingons are *already* at warp, otherwise they'd be going nowhere fast at sublight. I believe Enterprise was going roughly Warp 7 when they were intercepting the cloud. As for your last part, I would love to see a more modern remake as well, as long as it wasn't in the JJVerse ships/tech, not my fave. The movie Enterprise is most elegant design IMO.

[@MisterVolts]

Surely I am not the only one to ponder - why didn't they just Warp factor 8 the hell outta there? Been wondering this since 1979

[@mileskrygielski1891]

Makes me think about how V’ger, the whale probe, the kitimer accords, the Borg, the dominion, and other events could play out in the kelvin timeline.

[@mrwindsor9082]

This is an excellent edit Glenn. Well done! IMO the Klingon makeup was a little too wolf-like in this film. But, it is still vastly superior to the Star Discovery version of the Klingons. Or the Kelvin universe version for that matter! I wish the TNG/ DS9 era appearance could have have been retained. Please keep making these videos.

[@GlennG5150]

Thanks a lot, but this is actually the only one I'll be putting up, I was doing the Mutara Nebula battle from STII-WOK when I lost support for the render engine I was using, and I didn't feel like re-skinning and rendering a crap-ton of shots, plus I no longer have free access to the animation software. I have re-routed my creative energies to music, and some time within the next few months, I'll be starting a new channel featuring my new adventures in creativity!

[@bpen76]

In space, no one can hear you scream. But they can hear your ship whoosh.

[@GlennG5150]

Which is what all the movies/series have done in Trek - added SFX where there realistically should be any. Just being consistent.

[@knytrydr73]

Very good work. Keep at it.

[@Locutus]

This version of the Klingon make up always looked ridiculous. They look like puppets/animatronics.

[@randalslutz7514]

Specifically they are the D-7C variant. The original D7 battlecruisers were armed with disrupters and type 3 phasers. The D-7C variant was upgraded to photon torpedoes and type 4 phasers. The same type of armaments used in the Constitution class heavy cruisers.

[@jiyu9694]

In TOS, Klingons never had phasers as weapons. Phasers are Federation technology. Klingons only had disruptors.

[@druss69harad61]

I'd forgotten about this scene,thanks for the upload.

[@luthermcgee432]

I liked the evasive manouver too. Much better than the actual motion picture scene.

[@GlennG5150]

Thanks, you seem to be in the minority on that one, I did what I could with the few seconds allotted for the maneuver.

[@luthermcgee432]

@@GlennG5150 , thanks. I really don't mind being in the minority though, I just like impressive manouvers I guess.

[@robertmcpherson1617]

The caption says "Klingon Warbirds" Those are Klingon Battle Cruisers. Romulans have Warbirds.

[@josephizyk6774]

Cool I liked it.

[@jiyu9694]

I've never understood why SFX amateurs try to recreate famous scenes from classic movies. It's good practice, I guess (and this was a good effort), but they always look like what they are - amateurish efforts that don't even come close to living up to the original effects, and in fact look horrible by comparison. Far better to create something completely original - it's a lot more work, but you'll learn a lot more in the process and earn more respect. You have talent, and will improve with time and experience, so keep up your efforts. Just don't try to compete with professionals who created these legendary scenes, because you'll only embarrass yourself doing so. Learn from their examples, but concentrate on your OWN creations. Best of luck.

[@darkclaymore2135]

3:59 holyshit those turns 0.o

[@Lenzabi]

Good work integrating the CGI and the film clips. I only wish JJ had done his homework and realize that Warbnird is a designation for Romulan ships, NOT Klingon, ships like those were usually referred to as Battlecruisers, and the scouts Birds of Prey, but Romulans classified ships as warbirds like their D' Daridex class.

[@Shortsircut1]

Lenzabi, Thanks for posting this as I was about to. That was the first thing that came to mind when I found this video. Romulans have warbirds, NOT Klingons!

[@aarongreenfield9038]

@@Shortsircut1. Yes, Romulans have warbirds, clingons have bird of prey.

[@k1productions87]

The designations were always less than consistent. Remember, Bird of Prey was also an exclusively Romulan designation until Search for Spock (in what was originally scripted to be a stolen Romulan ship, by the way). Two other things that were exclusively Romulan until then - the Cloaking Device, and the Neutral Zone. The latter we can probably thank Nick Meyer for, as his poor research clearly didn't show that the Gamma Hydra sector was near Romulan Space (reference "The Deadly Years" TOS), not Klingon.

[@Shortsircut1]

@@k1productions87 OK I can at least agree in part. I have not watched much TOS for some time. If I remember right the Romulans actually bought ships from the Klingons at one time. As shown in the TOS episode "The Enterprise Incident" those Romulans had Klingon (battle cruisers) ships and that was the explanation that I read on how that came to be. Additionally, the episode (I forget the name) with the Organians and the treaty signed by the Federation and the Klingons that forbid the Federation from developing any kind of cloaking device but the Klingons could because they already had a cloak. I don't remember enough as to whether or not the Klingons had a neutral zone or not back then, but I believe you are correct that when the Enterprise first came across a Romulan the ship was referred to as a "bird of prey".

[@k1productions87]

@@Shortsircut1 The episode with the Organians was "Errand of Mercy" and it was the first time we ever saw the Klingons (perfect casting John Colicos as Kor, BTW. He always chews up the scenery no matter who he plays. He was also Baltar on the original Battlestar Galactica). This wasnt about cloaking though. That was the Treaty of Algeron which was never actually seen, only first mentioned in the TNG episode "Pegasus". But what the Organian Peace Treaty did was stop the impending war. Koloth mentions this in "The Trouble With Tribbles", using the terms of the peace treaty to allow his crew to have shore leave on Space Station K-7 while Kirk's crew was there. This also means there was no Neutral Zone at the time, as a Neutral Zone is a buffer of space between two empires that neither side is allowed to enter (much less fully cross into the other's territory). Doing so would be an act of war. Considering we saw Klingons several more times after this further accentuates that no such Neutral Zone existed, but also that there was no real defined border between them. So, the first time we ever see Neutral Zone and Klingons mentioned together was during the Kobayashi Maru simulation at the beginning of Wrath of Khan. As I mentioned before... the "Gamma Hydra" sector they mention during this simulation was also mentioned in "The Deadly Years" (TOS)... which was on the Romulan Border, not Klingon (Enterprise subsequently falling under attack by several Romulan Warbirds). My other problem with the Wrath of Khan scene was... the Neutral Zone was portrayed as a small bubble of space, not a border between empires. But that's a different subject for a different discussion, lol

[@benlaskowski357]

EXTREMELY well done!

[@johntyler2127]

my question is, why didn't go to wrap speed if they were about to be annihilated.

[@Larrymh07]

I remember thinking, whoever those Klingons are after is in for some big hurt!

[@spockvskhan4561]

At least these ships looks like they were trying to get the hell out of there! STMP ships appeared to be moving at snails pace.

[@Raja1938]

Large capital ships like this should move slower, less maneuverable. These speed at which these turned tail looks ridiculous.

[@larnregis]

The lighting seems rather simple and flat (only hard edges, no soft shadows). Something like Ambient Occlusion would surely help making those very nice 3d models pop and look much more realistic.

[@GlennG5150]

You make a great point here, unfortunately with the system I had at the time for rendering (it was only an i3 processor with 8GB of memory and an NVIDIA Quadro 600 card) was way too slow to handle AO without making the render take forever, so I had to sacrifice it.

[@wadebarnett2542]

This has more energy than the original shots. I'd like to include them in a personal edit of the film. I like that there aren't any matte lines in the new work. If I may suggest it, a little bit more motion blur is needed when the Klingons retreat toward the viewer. That would "sell" the effect a bit better. All in all, great work!

[@GlennG5150]

You can use it, just give credit. I tried using the motion blur (in AE) but my poor underpowered machine kept crashing, it's an intensive effect to render!

[@reelsoffortuneslotsplay4267]

A much younger Roger Aaron Brown with that crew monitoring the Klingon Battle