Submission Modifications for Street Fights | Jiu-Jitsu Self Defense

Submissions are potentially the best way to control and subdue someone, whether it’s grappling competition, MMA or a street fight. However, there are ways to apply submissions that may be good for certain contexts, which could be very dangerous if you apply them the same way in a fight with no rules. This video is a discussion and demonstration of how to practice submissions with slight modifications to make them safer and more effective for street fight / self defense conditions. Hope you find this helpful.
Huge thanks to David Heineman ‪@staysafemartialarts‬ and Mike Cheney ‪@boomboomcheney‬ for being part of this discussion and video. Amazing guys you should be following.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:40 - Guillotine Choke
3:45 - Mounted Arm Bar
7:10 - Triangle Choke
9:50 - Discussion of Striking Potential
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[@jujiwastaken]

Love the self defense content from Eli

[@staysafemartialarts]

We need more collabs!

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

Absolutely! Let's make it happen.

[@dragonballjiujitsu]

It amazes me that because of sport BJJ most people have no idea that Jiu-Jitsu was and is the BEST martial art for self-defense. Most people have no idea of the huge difference in the two. I started training Jiu-Jitsu 23 years ago and this is how we learned everything. If it wasn't addressing strikes we didn't do it.

[@dnatic09]

I train in BJJ as well so I am not bashing what I love. On the other hand, a self defense situation on concrete against multiple threats is less ideal for BJJ and probably better suited for a striking art. Regardless, a well-trained BJJ should be able to take anyone untrained.

[@shanesummers1458]

Love all this content, as someone who works in a prison and sees violence all the time you Also have to be prepared for the pure physicality, speed and brutality in which a real life situation can happen especially if it's not just some drunk bloke, there are some strong and genetically gifted people out there, a lot of officers train bjj/judo, Thai, MMA and even then it can be hard to restrain someone that is doing there absolute best not to let that happen, you don't have the time to think or be as chill as some Grappler are, you also have things or people in the way sometimes, I have seen someone get bitten in the neck while trying side control, bad guys train too there are lots of MMA/boxing fighters in jail so don't take fighting in the street lightly especially when a lot of people have hepatitis and have no regard for human life

[@loristronci4897]

For the triangle, if you underhook the free arm and pin it straight against your neck with your wrist bone under the elbow you automatically: get perpendicular to them stopping the pick up, it helps you to the turn, bars access from weapons and you have a free arm break.

[@ChrisPT]

Such important fundamentals here, that rarely seem to get pointed out. Great collab - thanks. Look forward to seeing another one with rear neck choke and a couple more high percentage subs?

[@Fitterminal]

Thank you, Eli.

[@faulksjiujitsu7483]

Great video. Up here in BC, we're doing Japanese Jiu Jitsu, and there is a lot of overlap. We always think one plus one. If you have one attacker, you gotta think there is a second one. So keeping our feet during a guillotine, maintaining knee mt during the arm bars, etc helps us more quickly adjust to that 3rd man in. Anyway, great content as always. Thanks.

[@anastasiospatsatzakis4886]

This mounted armbar is super perfect

[@JackMartens-xc4cv]

Terrific analysis. We need more of this.

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

Thank you!

[@boomboomcheney]

Thanks for having us on, bro!!!

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

Absolutely brotherman. Always my pleasure for real!

[@nguyehun002]

Love it!! Position before submission!! ,😁🥋🤙

[@devinloveridge6805]

Great stuff! I always think about these things even when training in class, I've always come from the school of thought that self defense is first! Good techniques work in sport or in street! I'm always appalled when someone let's themselves get picked up from guard and just let it happen

[@Twobarpsi]

Excellent video 💪✊🥋!!

[@brad3455]

Awesome video

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The best channel for bjj and selfdefense..more on hand grab to takedowns pls..im a fan

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

Thank you! And I’ll keep it coming.

[@Sidali1104]

Good job 👍

[@abhisheksajwan8877]

Respect for you from India

[@wasnt.here.3853]

Always love to see how BJJ is applicable to self defense!

[@gw1357]

Let me preface my comments by saying that I'm a neophyte at BJJ, so take what I comment with a grain of salt. I may or may not have any idea what I'm talking about. I'm just going by the little bit I know and what has worked for me in sparring. In considering submissions for self-defense I think the key question is "can I initiate it out of a standing clinch?" The standing clinch is so important in self-defense that I don't think you can ever have too many options for it. In that vein, I agree that the guillotine is the king of submissions for self-defense and everyone should have a good one -- both defensively off a sprawl and offensively as a finish after you break his posture with a strike to the body or groin (probably a knee or a shovel hook). After the guillotine though, I think there are several other chokes that I would put above the arm bar or the leg triangle. First, I find that the ezekiel is incredibly useful for self-defense. You can do it standing off a clinch, you can do it off your back, it works well in clothing, it works well pushing against walls or furniture, etc. Even if you're not able to finish the choke, it'll be enough to force the other guy to defend it and that will open other things. I like to threaten the ezekiel, then suddenly release it and flurry strikes. The same logic applies to a standing head-and-arm triangle. Make them raise their arms to defend their neck, then release and fire an spearing elbow or knee to the exposed liver, spleen, solar plexus, etc. Second, I find that if you can capture a guy's arm in a standing clinch, I really like to use a kimura both as a takedown. Of course, if you ride that takedown all the way to the ground, then you can break. I find this to be a really great option after you've smothered a haymaker by stepping inside with a strong cover. I also like to use the close range oblique kick (stepping down on the inside or outside of the knee) while I'm threatening a standing choke or kimura to break the posture and make them defend multiple levels. Last, I think the biggest differences between sport and self-defense ground work are that in self-defense you can strike the back of the head and you can knee a grounded opponent -- both of which can be devastating (even lethal). If we do end up on the ground, I'm going to be a lot less inclined to chase an arm bar or get to mount than I am to try to get to side control and blast his head with my knee. Great content. I really think this is one of the best instruction channels on martial arts youtube. I'm very biased, but my favorite stuff on this channel is the stuff that makes BJJ accessible to non BJJ people.

[@ccccc478]

Another consideration that I don't think was mentioned is that local laws in certain areas consider chokes to be "deadly force". Know your laws and decide accordingly what options you have when you get into an encounter where you have to defend yourself. Last thing you want is to end up in jail because you were trying to protect yourself and your loved ones but the local laws deem how you defended yourself to be an unnecessary escalation.

[@CountHexula]

HICS!!! This blew my mind seeing this.

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

Awesome gym! It was such a great seminar venue and Donny is an awesome human. Great to be there that weekend.

[@CountHexula]

Donny is awesome. I trained there for 6 years before moving to OK last year. I miss those guys a lot.

[@zoltancsikos5604]

"the gap between sport and street is small" If he's referring only to how similar a specific technique is, then yes, it can be very similar or completely identical across those contexts.

[@clarksavagejr1930]

GOOD BODY MECH

[@sfundoshezi6423]

We do need more videos like this one which deal with realistic everyday life. I am subscribing here.

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

Nice. Thank you. I try to put up a mix of videos for things of varied contexts, but I always try to make it clear when something is more for sport or self defense applications. I appreciate you subscribing, and you’ll find quite a bit of stuff geared toward self defense on this channel.

[@rgrapplerinoc2617]

In general, strictly for real life and death street defense, most basic grappling submissions just need to be aggressively slapped on quickly and with full power and full aggression. Once completely locked in, you can still control the amount of damage. Keep up the Great work 👍

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[@qtgcn1713]

Il would really appreciate a video for smaller people. I am doing grappling/BJJ and if there is something I can relate is that by being 1m70 (5 f 6 i) and 60kg (132 lbs) [I am french I don't use feets, inches, lbs, sorry if it is wrong], there are lots of tehcniques that you cannot do. For example most of the mounted techniques are not really feasible. I was trying against a 200 lbs BJJ, and he just lift me up. Same for lots of takedows where people can just stand against and drop their bodyweight on me. What would you recommend? In a self defense situation for example trying to wrestle or to block hits are the worse scenario. I take one, I am dead. I wrestle against someone 65 lbs more than me, there is no match. Or I need 10 years of techniques and training.

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

Absolutely solid concerns, and I appreciate the comment. Oddly enough, I just filmed a video with David Heineman on his channel @staysafemartialarts about maintaining top position against larger opponents. I know this isn’t the entirety of your question, but maybe it’ll be helpful in one area. I’ll try to tackle the topic in more depth in the near future. Here is a link to the video I mentioned kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXzcnaerh52HqJYsi=RVvaMBFDASx3Qgwj

[@qtgcn1713]

@@KnightJiuJitsu Thanks a lot, going to watch it right now. I have seen also an "old" video where you tackled this issue and explain that only chokes are feasible on larger opponents or full body against arm for example. I need to think a little more about the techniques I am trying to learn and use in order to strenghten my game. Too many techniques are just loss of time for short/light people or need adjustements.

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[@oidomano9690]

I usually love knight jiujitsu but bro you cannot put for the street or self defense in your title & start with a guillotine while saying he'll reach for his neck if you choke him. No. He won't. He'll just start stabbing away. Then to the armbar like what my guy. You maintain that top position in the streets. Armbar is the worst street fight move.

[@lambosnicko]

So you hit him in the groin, he gets madder and slams the guillotine on even harder and you go to sleep all the same.

[@oidomano9690]

@@lambosnicko it's like you didn't read what I said but are trying to say it's wrong by giving another example from the video that is incorrect. Punch a dick yeah sure nothing gonna happen. Twist a Dik n balls he's gonna think about letting go. You know nothing about real fighting. People are animals. They will kill you at any chance. Silly jiujitsu from improper position gets you killed. You must watch the hands to not get stabbed or shot at all times if you can't see the hands you need to control them.

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

@oidomano9690 - I think it’s easy to say some of these things you’re saying if you haven’t trained before. If you’ve never been dominated in a position, hit with a tight choke or done an arm lock, then you can guess what will and won’t work…but once you have trained a little more sufficiently, you start to realize all these tropes you’re saying are way less likely. The sheer fact that you’re saying “the guy will definitely do this or that” or “he will never do this or that” shows a lack of understanding of violence and training…which is basically the whole point of making this video - to rebut people leaving comments that don’t understand what they’re looking at or how it feels in a dynamic environment.

[@oidomano9690]

@@KnightJiuJitsu the fact you start with assuming I have no training is sad. You would rather think that good technique from bad position could save you. That's how you die my guy. Btw I got 18+ years experience and currently train out of Jwmma. I commented to give you and subscribers real life knowledge, but if you wanna risk yours and their lives go ahead and maintain that illusion.

[@KnightJiuJitsu]

@@oidomano9690 - Thanks for saving all those lives in the comments section. All the best ✌️