Knock-Out Commander Fight | Extra Turns 09 | Magic: The Gathering Commander EDH Gameplay

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Show Notes:
The Command Zone team takes over the table! Ladee Danger, Jake Boss, Josh “Murph” Murphy, and Manson Leung roll out their own personal decks for another no-holds-barred Commander battle.
It’s Mayael vs. Tahngarth vs. O-Kagachi vs. Zada
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@origaming_plays573
@origaming_plays573 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone: "That Steam-Kin did a lot of work here!" Ruby Medallion, that reduced the cost of every spell Manson cast: "Am I a joke to you?"
@Fistminer
@Fistminer 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that medallion made most of those spells free combo'd with steamkin
@ty_sylicus
@ty_sylicus 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, could that board have been any more primed for a strong finish? Zero interaction was the doom of the table. Big oofs
@jacksonmoen5230
@jacksonmoen5230 3 жыл бұрын
@@ty_sylicus it's because everyone played red and if you look they were all tapped out during his turn
@johnhowe8424
@johnhowe8424 3 жыл бұрын
I played Boros Zada for fun in standard when it came out… jeeeeezusssss that was dirty and I used to win on turn 3-4 with swiftspear, the 2/2 lifelink prowess, pump spells and zada.
@patchristian9174
@patchristian9174 2 жыл бұрын
Lol.,
@duckstuffer2152
@duckstuffer2152 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone: playing red Jimmy: *begins breathing heavily*
@Aligariusful
@Aligariusful 3 жыл бұрын
Red deck wins!!
@sivancohen4940
@sivancohen4940 3 жыл бұрын
more like Jimmy: hold my beer
@yugiohkid1996
@yugiohkid1996 3 жыл бұрын
I was half expecting a Infinite damage combo
@pohkuangda6662
@pohkuangda6662 3 жыл бұрын
Good thing this was recorded on January not November
@StevoM08
@StevoM08 3 жыл бұрын
Shout out to the editor. The cuts on the deck searches are so smooth.
@MrLuc420
@MrLuc420 3 жыл бұрын
Some of them are in this video!
@shinshistudios7222
@shinshistudios7222 3 жыл бұрын
I want that deck 😍😍
@buddhathegod
@buddhathegod 3 жыл бұрын
yeah I was like "man these people suspiciously find their cards qu- OH"
@TLG1255
@TLG1255 3 жыл бұрын
Think it has such good production cause the editors are the ones playing this round?
@StevoM08
@StevoM08 3 жыл бұрын
@@TLG1255 I mean I think their production values are always great this is just the first time I personally have noticed this particular aspect.
@Murkaeus
@Murkaeus 3 жыл бұрын
"Play a mountain, pass" "Play a mountain and pass to you, Jake" "Play a mountain as well, and pass" "Play a Flooded Strand" YOU HAD ONE JOB
@Hitzel
@Hitzel 3 жыл бұрын
I would have been upset if it was instead someone not participating in a full round swampass.
@tiffanderson1733
@tiffanderson1733 3 жыл бұрын
I thought so too but the land he cracked the flooded strand for technically had mountain as one of its land types
@thehotdog128
@thehotdog128 3 жыл бұрын
@@tiffanderson1733 True
@nanya524
@nanya524 3 жыл бұрын
Zada deck: draws 20+ cards in one turn Josh: *breathing heavy*
@OmegaMTG
@OmegaMTG 3 жыл бұрын
He's not the only one. I run dimir and have to cast Peer into the abyss on myself to be able to do that and hope I draw thought vessel, spellbook, etc. :)
@masteremostyle
@masteremostyle 2 жыл бұрын
*heavy breath* valuuuee
@TheRameNinja
@TheRameNinja 3 жыл бұрын
Here's the rundown for Manson's last turn: Draws 1 card for turn Draws 7 cards with the first Accelerate Draws 9 cards with the second Accelerate Draws 9 cards with Boiling Blood Draws 19 cards with Valakut Awakening Draws 11 cards with Fist of Flame Fist of Flame: Creature gets +1/+0 for each card drawn this turn (Applied to all creatures because of Zada). 1+7+9+9+19+11=56 so Manson's creatures get +56/+0. Edit: HUGE thank you to Michael Ward for the correction on the Fist of Flames damage. Mason would do an additional 63 damage due to how the card works. He would draw a card and a "Target creature gets +1/+0 for each card drawn this turn" trigger would resolve and that would repeat for each copy, so each consecutive resolution of Fist of Flames is including one extra card drawn in the +1/+0 calculation. For optimal usage the Fist of Flames triggers would resolve on the Torbran and the Siege-Gang Commander first and second (because they have summoning sickness) so those two would get a +1 and +2 more power respectively. The attacking creatures would get +3 power up to +11 power as listed below. Marton Stromgald: Attacking creatures get +1/+1 for each other attacking creature besides Martin Stromgald. Manson attacked with 8 other creatures besides Marton Stromgald so all of Manson's attacking creatures besides Marton Stromgald get +8/+8. Overall Manson attacked with: Before Additional Power After Additional Power Four 1/1 Goblin tokens -> Four 65/9 Goblin Tokens +3, +4, +5, +6 from Fist of Flames triggers = One 68/9 goblin token, one 69/9 goblin token, one 70/9 goblin token, and one 71/9 goblin token A 4/4 Goblin Dark-Dwellers -> 68/12 Goblin Dark-Dwellers +7 from FoF triggers = 75/12 Goblin Dark-Dwellers A 3/3 Runaway Steamkin -> 67/11 Runaway Steamkin +8 from FoF triggers = 75/11 Runaway Steamkin A 1/1 Iron Myr -> 65/9 Iron Myr +9 from FoF triggers = 74/9 Iron Myr A 3/3 Zada, Hedron Grinder -> 67/11 Zada, Hedron Grinder +11 from FoF triggers = 78/11 Zada, Hedron Grinder (Fist of Flames has to be cast on Zada to get copied so this Fist of Flames is the last to resolve) A 1/1 Marton Stromgald -> 57/1 Marton Stromgald +10 from FoF triggers = 67/12 Marton Stromgald I'm guessing Manson would've swung 3 monsters at each opponent from left to right, meaning he would swing at: Ladee Danger for 207 damage, Jake for 221 damage, and Murph for 219 damage. BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE! Manson also had a Torbran, Thane of Red Fell on the field so each red source deals +2 damage so the NEW math is: Ladee Danger took +2 damage for each of the three red Goblin tokens so 207 + 6 = 213 total damage Jake took +2 damage for the red Goblin token, +2 damage for the Goblin Dark-Dwellers, and +2 for the Runaway Steamkin, so 221 + 6 = 227 total damage Murph took +2 for the Zada, Hedron Grinder and +2 for the Marton Stromgald, so 219 + 4 = 223 total damage Lastly, Manson used his Siege-Gang Commander to sacrifice 3 RED Goblin tokens. They dealt 2 damage each but were boosted by Torbran for an additional 2 damage, so 12 damage total to creatures. Manson dealt a WHOPPING 675 damage in one turn (12 damage to creatures and 663 to opponents) which I believe is an all time record for not just Extra Turns, but all of Game Knights Commander history. Game Knights if you see this, you should make a shirt with either a 675 on the front (where a pocket tee would go) and Manson's decklist on the back OR a shirt in the style of a bench press club shirt with Manson's 675 on it (search '300 pound bench press club shirt' to see what I mean).
@mansonleung7768
@mansonleung7768 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Thanks for the breakdown lol
@NotSceptile
@NotSceptile 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU
@hugovandermeulen4741
@hugovandermeulen4741 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like i suck at math now
@jupiter2453
@jupiter2453 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the extensive breakdown and excellent job Manson; he was humble about his victory which is respectable.
@possumasshole420
@possumasshole420 3 жыл бұрын
was very curious about all those trigger resolutions, thanks for doin such a comprehensive breakdown
@maxspecs
@maxspecs 3 жыл бұрын
Manson turn 2: misses land drop, "I was greedy." Manson, end of game, only 3 mountains on the battlefield. "I need more red."
@crispy2802
@crispy2802 3 жыл бұрын
I lowkey really love the idea of the "Command Zone Cast" heading up Extra Turns in general, with Jimmy and Josh still functioning as hosts for primary episodes of "The Command Zone" while still appearing on ET as guests sometimes. Letting the larger cast/team run more of the Extra Turns content will lead to a wider variety of players and decks in general (which is always fun), and allows us get to know the larger crew better. Don't get me wrong, it's great to see Jimmy and Josh, but I hope there are more episodes like this in the future! EDIT: bad grammar & spelling EDIT 2: Holy crap, Manson....
@highshelf
@highshelf 3 жыл бұрын
^
@KevinRodriguez-zr1ut
@KevinRodriguez-zr1ut 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed on all points
@unrelentingawesomeness7501
@unrelentingawesomeness7501 3 жыл бұрын
I do not agree
@ivaneckhardt7010
@ivaneckhardt7010 3 жыл бұрын
also jimmy and josh can take vacations or focus on other projects, i just love seeing games like these, it makes my life a little better!
@cabellism
@cabellism 3 жыл бұрын
I agree completely
@rrraaa32124
@rrraaa32124 3 жыл бұрын
It’s such a shame the mayael deck wasn’t able to play any fatties
@diSTUD013
@diSTUD013 3 жыл бұрын
First the Atla Palani deck, now Mayael
@ColorwaveCraftsCo
@ColorwaveCraftsCo 3 жыл бұрын
@@diSTUD013 I have an Atla deck, and unfortunately that happens a lot. In faster metas, it can be really hard to get going before someone else combos off
@faerie7dragon
@faerie7dragon 3 жыл бұрын
Mayael is a classic, member of the old guard, but she is so outclassed now.
@diSTUD013
@diSTUD013 3 жыл бұрын
@@ColorwaveCraftsCo I just built an Atla Palani deck not that long ago and haven't been able to play it yet bc of the pandemic so that's good to know! I'd be interested in seeing your decklist
@koyomiararagl
@koyomiararagl 3 жыл бұрын
those trash guys, hey, ur ramping, ima attack you hey, u casted an enchantment, going to attack you hey, ur breathing , going to attack you
@tomkemp6105
@tomkemp6105 3 жыл бұрын
when its 20 minutes you know its zada edit: Thank you Daniel Gordon for the time check.
@3kojimbles895
@3kojimbles895 3 жыл бұрын
red go zoom
@Yamipaladin
@Yamipaladin 3 жыл бұрын
@@3kojimbles895 more like "Red mana go brrrr"
@breakingtide
@breakingtide 3 жыл бұрын
After ads intros and outros its only 20 minutes
@sarahwinn2453
@sarahwinn2453 3 жыл бұрын
@@Yamipaladin more like “red mana go brrrn”
@t.o.h.b8501
@t.o.h.b8501 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone: nooo u can't destroy us and making this a short game we want more explosive turns Manson: haha zada buff go brrrrrr
@lilacpilot3437
@lilacpilot3437 3 жыл бұрын
Chaos Warp into a ten drop creature *panic* It's Myojin of Seeing Winds *calm*
@techoutsider5631
@techoutsider5631 3 жыл бұрын
/Mispronounces myojin/ Definitely not calm here at home :-/
@BlackenedVoodoo11
@BlackenedVoodoo11 3 жыл бұрын
@@techoutsider5631 man your day must be ruined huh
@dillpickle694
@dillpickle694 3 жыл бұрын
Chaos warp targets yours permanent *panic* You hit a 10 mana spell *calm* It doesn’t do anything *panic*
@unawarefruit3401
@unawarefruit3401 3 жыл бұрын
Kudos to whoever did the math for manson's last turn.
@TheRameNinja
@TheRameNinja 3 жыл бұрын
Here's the rundown for Manson's last turn: Draws 1 card for turn Draws 7 cards with the first Accelerate Draws 9 cards with the second Accelerate Draws 9 cards with Boiling Blood Draws 19 cards with Valakut Awakening Draws 11 cards with Fist of Flame Fist of Flame: Creature gets +1/+0 for each card drawn this turn (Applied to all creatures because of Zada). 1+7+9+9+19+11=56 so Manson's creatures get +56/+0 Marton Stromgald: Attacking creatures get +1/+1 for each other attacking creature besides Martin Stromgald. Manson attacked with 8 other creatures besides Marton Stromgald so all of Manson's attacking creatures besides Marton Stromgald get +8/+8. Overall Manson attacked with: Before Additional Power After Additional Power Four 1/1 Goblin tokens -> Four 65/9 Goblin Tokens A 4/4 Goblin Dark-Dwellers -> 68/12 Goblin Dark-Dwellers A 3/3 Runaway Steamkin -> 67/11 Runaway Steamkin A 1/1 Iron Myr -> 65/9 Iron Myr A 3/3 Zada, Hedron Grinder -> 67/11 Zada, Hedron Grinder A 1/1 Marton Stromgald -> 57/1 Marton Stromgald I'm guessing Manson would've swung 3 monsters at each opponent from left to right, meaning he would swing at: Ladee Danger for 195 damage, Jake for 200 damage, and Murph for 189 damage. BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE! Manson also had a Torbran, Thane of Red Fell on the field so each red source deals +2 damage so the NEW math is: Ladee Danger took +2 damage for each of the three red Goblin tokens so 195 + 6 = 201 total damage Jake took +2 damage for the red Goblin token, +2 damage for the Goblin Dark-Dwellers, and +2 for the Runaway Steamkin, so 200 + 6 = 206 total damage Murph took +2 for the Zada, Hedron Grinder and +2 for the Marton Stromgald, so 189 + 4 = 193 total damage Lastly, Manson used his Siege-Gang Commander to sacrifice 3 RED Goblin tokens. They dealt 2 damage each but were boosted by Torbran for an additional 2 damage, so 12 damage total to creatures. Manson dealt a WHOPPING 612 damage in one turn (12 damage to creatures and 600 to opponents) which I believe is an all time record for not just Extra Turns, but all of Game Knights Commander history. Game Knights if you see this, you should make a shirt with either a 612 on the front (where a pocket tee would go) and Manson's decklist on the back OR a shirt in the style of a bench press club shirt with Manson's 612 on it (search '300 pound bench press club shirt' to see what I mean).
@RobMedellin
@RobMedellin 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRameNinja dude don't post this as a reply, put it as comment and let the community see
@TheRameNinja
@TheRameNinja 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobMedellin haha, don’t worry, I did both. Manson replied to my comment so I’m like, ecstatic he saw it!
@mk24789
@mk24789 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRameNinja I think everything here is right except for the fist of flames math - since each fist of flames copy draws an additional card, each consecutive resolution will give an additional +1 power boost. So assuming optimal usage, the siege-gang and torbran would get +1 and +2 power. Then the swinging creatures would get +3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11, resulting in an additional 63 collective damage.
@TheRameNinja
@TheRameNinja 3 жыл бұрын
@@mk24789 Thanks! I realized that a few days after I commented, but I’ve been busy so I didn’t get the chance to edit it yet. But also, the original Fist of Flames has to target Zada in order for it to get copied, so Zada has to get the +1, while Torbran and Siege-gang get +2 and +3 so it’s still 1+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11=61 more damage.
@jackhoeffel6830
@jackhoeffel6830 3 жыл бұрын
Manson told Josh and Jimmy “hey don’t come to extra turns tomorrow” and sent them a pic of zada
@gmeaki02
@gmeaki02 3 жыл бұрын
Some of you guys are alright...
@hiddenleaf414
@hiddenleaf414 3 жыл бұрын
Jimmy’s mono red land curse has been passed on! Zada is definitely a kill on sight commander.
@ecos889
@ecos889 3 жыл бұрын
Zada runs very little lands as cantrips are way more important ;) As the average CMC of a Zada deck is two.
@jls22147
@jls22147 3 жыл бұрын
@@ecos889 Yup, i have 33 lands in mine and maybe encounter mana issues (not having enough) 1 in every 7 games or something, I more often flood than not enough
@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos
@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos 3 жыл бұрын
He might have been sandbagging a land, to appear less threatening while knowing it wouldn't trip up his sequencing.
@EDHCoffee
@EDHCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone: Jimmy's not here. Manson: Hold my beer, I have Jimmy's....
@Lybra1022
@Lybra1022 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Ladee has been slowly ascending into some sort of Swamp Witch over the last few videos and I'm here for it. That said, if I get turned into a newt or a toad after saying this, I'll know why.
@JonathanHecht
@JonathanHecht 3 жыл бұрын
"This is my commandarth, Tahngarth"
@colinwest4568
@colinwest4568 3 жыл бұрын
What a pleasant surprise. I was looking forward to the Kaldheim one in a couple of weeks, but this is great!
@alessandrodellanno948
@alessandrodellanno948 3 жыл бұрын
We will get it anyway very soon I think:)
@Maxor369
@Maxor369 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this was a battle to get the best office chair and took the opportunity to film it so they can have a record of it.
@jonlamoreaux1889
@jonlamoreaux1889 3 жыл бұрын
Omg, they should battle for vacation days!
@Azuth65
@Azuth65 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonlamoreaux1889 As long as they don't go to Brazil. Sir Integra was quite insistent they never visit Brazil.
@danielyarsky6128
@danielyarsky6128 3 жыл бұрын
They’re taking the police girl and the Frenchman
@Kingsnorelax
@Kingsnorelax 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielyarsky6128 The big tiddied police girl?
@lorekeeper685
@lorekeeper685 3 жыл бұрын
lmao tfs
@masonbaker1677
@masonbaker1677 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Manson went from missing land drops to swinging for like 300+ damage. Zada's great lmao
@paintedhorse6880
@paintedhorse6880 3 жыл бұрын
Red is notorious for bad card draw and ramp. The fact a mono red deck managed to out value 3 decks all with atleast green or blue shows that 1. Zada is busted. And 2. Manson is a pretty good deck builder.
@jacket2848
@jacket2848 3 жыл бұрын
@@paintedhorse6880 Zada isn't busted at all, people just let him keep Zada and another creatures.
@robertocampelo5140
@robertocampelo5140 3 жыл бұрын
Well, the time that red was lacking on ramp and card advantage is gone. There r a lot of 2 CMC mana rocks for commander and red earned treasures, impulsive draws and weird tutoring. We just need to see the new printed card Magda, Brazen Outlaw, for example
@20fastcarsgovroomvroominci27
@20fastcarsgovroomvroominci27 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacket2848 If you have to remove a commander every turn to stop them from winning instantly it's busted.
@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos
@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertocampelo5140 If we're being pedantic, the density of sub-three-mana rocks/dorks has been sufficiently high to enable aggressive ramp in every color identity for the last decade. For whatever reason, people only just recently tuned in.
@liammenchaca8860
@liammenchaca8860 3 жыл бұрын
“I heard that guy already watched the episode” -The Joker, to Batman (2003)
@AdairCorbin
@AdairCorbin 3 жыл бұрын
Normally I'm really against contents creators watering down there channel with content without the hosts. But I'm not worried on this channel, the talent pool is so deep. I watched Danger before she was on this channel, and Murph is quickly becoming a favorite. Just one request more Craig please. Mr. Infect brings a certain evil energy this channel is otherwise missing.
@oppositecatchyghost8025
@oppositecatchyghost8025 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man. I see a deck with a Minotaur Commander, I give a like.
@PashaUndertow
@PashaUndertow 3 жыл бұрын
I will also add this to it: I'm a simple man. I see Ladee Danger, I give a like.
@techoutsider5631
@techoutsider5631 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a simple person. I see something from Kamigawa, i give a like
@phenaxdk5857
@phenaxdk5857 3 жыл бұрын
Manson playing the deck i always wanted to play.
@douugr4967
@douugr4967 3 жыл бұрын
I have this deck, it`s a lot of fun
@20fastcarsgovroomvroominci27
@20fastcarsgovroomvroominci27 3 жыл бұрын
I played against that deck, it's never fun
@gypsieking3280
@gypsieking3280 3 жыл бұрын
Its fun and relatively cheap
@zombinekiller
@zombinekiller 3 жыл бұрын
Zada can win out of nowhere.
@Shamrock501
@Shamrock501 3 жыл бұрын
I play the pauper commander version of the deck, and it loses a bit of power/consistency but still almost always kills the turn after Zada comes down if it sticks around.
@unwucht1529
@unwucht1529 3 жыл бұрын
I really love how the budget deck at the table wiped the battlefield with it's opponents.
@gypsieking3280
@gypsieking3280 3 жыл бұрын
Manson is clearly a cultured individual given his deck choice.
@K3ntauro5
@K3ntauro5 3 жыл бұрын
missed chance for Jake to call Murph “Marph”
@RyuujinLetum
@RyuujinLetum 3 жыл бұрын
Really liked his commandarth though
@calebpark3411
@calebpark3411 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite characters in smash
@RyuujinLetum
@RyuujinLetum 3 жыл бұрын
@@calebpark3411 🤣🤣🤣
@K3ntauro5
@K3ntauro5 3 жыл бұрын
now this is getting out of hand...
@ThatOnePurpleFox
@ThatOnePurpleFox 3 жыл бұрын
Extra turns might as well be the ladee danger show and I love watching her play.
@king_of_red_lions6213
@king_of_red_lions6213 3 жыл бұрын
Ladee's hair and makeup is always so cool, she looks like a guild leader for the golgari swarm! Also goblins are always insane!
@alanlee9943
@alanlee9943 3 жыл бұрын
It is now proven that all gruul creatures sound like Ruic Thar, sounds by Jake.
@magiccardmaster9921
@magiccardmaster9921 3 жыл бұрын
Every time lady danger shows up she gets more dangerous each time
@normaldoedoe9212
@normaldoedoe9212 3 жыл бұрын
Can U guys please do a another cube with Brandon Sanderson
@ghostanbu1099
@ghostanbu1099 3 жыл бұрын
Jimmy and Josh sure do look different in this one.
@jessngatai2384
@jessngatai2384 3 жыл бұрын
Ladee Danger was on fire with those puns. Great job team
@bradycurtis668
@bradycurtis668 3 жыл бұрын
Cool that you guys are not in this one, I think it would be cool if your team lead the extra turns series for some variety and we love your team members they are awesome!!
@Ashen_Chavalier
@Ashen_Chavalier 3 жыл бұрын
This is like when your friends are playing checkers, but you sitting over there playing 4D chess
@HexQuesTT
@HexQuesTT 3 жыл бұрын
Man I was rly lookin forward to Tangarth and Mayael slugging it out, especially mayael who I've always wanted to build but then Zada exists...
@biohazard0119
@biohazard0119 3 жыл бұрын
Aaahhh yes, Magic the gathering. My favorite single player game.
@Wallenquist
@Wallenquist 3 жыл бұрын
I see Ladee Danger, I click.
@jWir366
@jWir366 3 жыл бұрын
sameeeeeeee
@bobbiechristine
@bobbiechristine 3 жыл бұрын
This was a drag to experience for my gaming tastes
@olafbengtsson4410
@olafbengtsson4410 3 жыл бұрын
so something i learned with this episode, cause i am relativly new to magic : is that zada is busted
@danielbretado7660
@danielbretado7660 3 жыл бұрын
Zara is great. Very powerful and cheap to build. Always give Zada respect, even "budget" builds.
@koelkast9
@koelkast9 3 жыл бұрын
Jup. The downside is that he is still pretty vulnerable to interaction. Removing the commander really hurts the deck
@randommindz6782
@randommindz6782 3 жыл бұрын
Zada is fair compared to the shit I see on cEDH decklists...
@OhNoTheFace
@OhNoTheFace 3 жыл бұрын
@@randommindz6782 Imagine comparing dEDH to what people actually play
@jacket2848
@jacket2848 3 жыл бұрын
@@randommindz6782 it's not even the same game really
@plasnania
@plasnania 3 жыл бұрын
Sees Manson is playing: He's winning. Sees Zada as his general: He's winning. Gee, what a surprise?
@williamzhang153
@williamzhang153 3 жыл бұрын
@Ninja Named Bob But unlike feather, Zada can be easily removed cuz monored
@exprime8872
@exprime8872 3 жыл бұрын
@Ninja Named Bob If you can win in Commander with mono-red I think that deserves some props, regardless of the Commander.
@codefive6480
@codefive6480 3 жыл бұрын
Is this implying zada is some sort of top tier commander
@plasnania
@plasnania 3 жыл бұрын
@@codefive6480 no, just saying that it's super easy to storm off with her.
@silentmessiah98
@silentmessiah98 3 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, that was boring.. thanks to Zada (no surprise)
@RetroPokemonDepot
@RetroPokemonDepot 3 жыл бұрын
Zada decks are cool the first time you see it happen. Every time after that is just a total snoozefest
@jasonholmes5714
@jasonholmes5714 3 жыл бұрын
Well, no one interacted with anything he played, so that didn’t help either. As soon as Steamkin and the Medallion come out, I knew what was coming. Those have to go ASAP.
@RetroPokemonDepot
@RetroPokemonDepot 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonholmes5714 I agree. As Manson played out his turn all I could think was "okay where's the interaction, everyone?" Like JLK said in the outro, sometimes you just end up not drawing what you need to deal with it, but it still resulting in being less entertaining than usual
@zara6854
@zara6854 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonholmes5714 Yeah hardly any control anywhere, nothing to keep opponents in check
@allterraincapybara6749
@allterraincapybara6749 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah if there had been any interaction, the game would have been much better, but literally nothing happened. It was still a nice surprise for an extra turns ep tho
@randommindz6782
@randommindz6782 3 жыл бұрын
"Red decks don't have enough draw power" .....still true statement but holy hell......
@nickboshart6715
@nickboshart6715 3 жыл бұрын
Manson *Sad honking when Looter Scooter dies* Also Manson "So, I win now"
@abc123connor5
@abc123connor5 3 жыл бұрын
"Sometimes someone just gets a really good draw" after drawing 55 cards in a turn itd be hard not to draw what you need
@connormohs6046
@connormohs6046 3 жыл бұрын
The one time everyone is playing red at the table is when Jimmy isn’t here!
@djrmarketing598
@djrmarketing598 3 жыл бұрын
"It's all Ogre now..." (not lying though I'm totally going to steal that one)
@justanotherhuman7106
@justanotherhuman7106 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing Manson play Márton is so cool, márton is such an underrated card and I have a commander deck for him and it’s amazing
@arthurvandenbergh1881
@arthurvandenbergh1881 3 жыл бұрын
That new Birgi card will be insane in Manson’s deck, holy heck!
@UrsineDBruin
@UrsineDBruin 3 жыл бұрын
"Oh boy, a Mayael deck. Can't wait to see the fun stuff she plays." Murph: Hold my Zada.
@firefliesburntheworld
@firefliesburntheworld 3 жыл бұрын
Spoilers for the episode! . . . . . . . . I used to own a Zada deck so I knew instantly what was about to happen, I was just holding on to the edge of my seat for that Fist in Flames and I was not disappointed.
@geckonerd3734
@geckonerd3734 3 жыл бұрын
I had never seen a Zada deck in action. Now I want to build one.
@broganmccanna3008
@broganmccanna3008 3 жыл бұрын
I actually did the math, and I know that it doesn't matter, but the +1/+0's from Fists of Flame was +39/+0, so the totalled buffs to Manson's creatures would've been +47/+8..
@silvanobianchini6924
@silvanobianchini6924 3 жыл бұрын
As a Mayael player, this is the reason why I play a lot of early game stax... a deafening silence or an archon of emeria would have stopped that zada in his tracks :'(
@simonnice9030
@simonnice9030 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, she really needs those pieces in order to get the time to start putting out big baddies! Whiffing with her is soo painful aswell. I don't play my Mayael anymore because even though she sounds fun on paper, the cost of the ability and the big chance of whiffing makes for some really boring turns with her.
@silvanobianchini6924
@silvanobianchini6924 3 жыл бұрын
@@simonnice9030 yes, she was my very first commander and i will keep playing her for sentimental reasons... but when she whiffs, omg the hate love relationship i have with her 🤣
@lordkapuze9496
@lordkapuze9496 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to be a nuisiance, but i got interested so i did a little research: I thought that equipments only work on creatures you control. At least it says in the rulestext, that you can only attach the equipment to a creature you control. And since i wasn't sure i looked it up, but in Rule 704.smth it states, that as a state-based action, any illegally attached Artifact becomes unattached. Wich would mean that, as soon as Jake gives up control of Thangar, the Mask would get unattached. Problem is: I couldn't find a rule where the attachement of an equipment you control to a creature you don't control is declared illegal, only the act of attaching in the before mentionend way is. Is that why it works and is legal? Or is it illegal after all?
@gamerzbl00d
@gamerzbl00d 3 жыл бұрын
The equipment is already attached so even if someone else controls the creature, he still gets the effect since he controls the equipment
@Joshbobjovi
@Joshbobjovi 3 жыл бұрын
If someone steals your creature that has a Sword of Feast and Famine, the sword goes with the creature, but you can pay the equip cost on your turn to get it back on a creature you control.
@nicholasrolo886
@nicholasrolo886 3 жыл бұрын
Just going to have Ashlen saying "Buyraycon.com/extra" stuck in my head all day
@tezdispenser
@tezdispenser 3 жыл бұрын
Basically just watched one turn and have seen Zada a thousand times. Love your content but this one was a miss.
@GovernmentSpyBird
@GovernmentSpyBird 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, as someone new to magic I am excited to try out this single-player mode!
@zomgsignupnow
@zomgsignupnow 3 жыл бұрын
i love manson, he's so funny Edit: Rules-wise, Fist of Flame checks upon resolution, so each consecutive resolving Fist of Flame target gets an additional +1 power over the previous. Say if you had 3 creatures including Zada, and your only spell is Fist of Flame, your first target gets +1/+0, the second gets +2/+0, and the third gets +3/+0. Not that it REALLY mattered that turn... xD
@thatman8848
@thatman8848 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly as much as I love jimmy, good to see them out and let the crew go. It was really refreshing.
@zacheryredden5417
@zacheryredden5417 3 жыл бұрын
decks like Mansons are the kind of thing that makes me balk at trying this format. I want to play magic, not watch someone play solitaire.
@BokuAMite
@BokuAMite 3 жыл бұрын
Murphy’s face in the thumbnail😂
@cameronlancaster7596
@cameronlancaster7596 3 жыл бұрын
pog
@phamtasticbaby6124
@phamtasticbaby6124 3 жыл бұрын
Poggers!
@bradycurtis668
@bradycurtis668 3 жыл бұрын
I think a good podcast episode idea is game review of the extra turns or game knights I would love to hear the thought process (I know this is sort of how it is with round table but my idea would be more focused on gameplay decisions and things like that)
@chrisgebben2043
@chrisgebben2043 3 жыл бұрын
2:13 pretty much less than a mili-moment that I'm saying i want Josh murphy for the win (a better 5-color spirit tribal commander is what I have been wanting for a long time ever since this card) (but really with the time in the video and zada we know whats happening)
@argoset1078
@argoset1078 3 жыл бұрын
that ending was, filthy, FILTHY in all the best ways!
@xavierdunkle2372
@xavierdunkle2372 3 жыл бұрын
You should do an extra turns where everyone plays a super toxic deck (hardcore stax, infect, etc)
@themantyf1116
@themantyf1116 3 жыл бұрын
Well, Ladee really tempted fate commenting on Manson's early mana screw.
@LadeeDanger
@LadeeDanger 3 жыл бұрын
TELL ME ABOUT IT
@otolley
@otolley 3 жыл бұрын
Did anybody notice that the most used word in this video is "nice"? :-)
@caniuse3
@caniuse3 3 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@xuldinga77
@xuldinga77 3 жыл бұрын
ah, miss the days when I could play Magic in person. Damn you covid!!!
@techoutsider5631
@techoutsider5631 3 жыл бұрын
I have played Magic over Zoom and have worked it out *somewhat* well. If you go for that option, be prepared to ask a *lot* of questions.
@rotemegozi4202
@rotemegozi4202 3 жыл бұрын
Should Manson not have drawn a card for each creature he controlled when he cast Fists of Flame?
@TheUltimateRey
@TheUltimateRey 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah probably but he won either way lol
@corvus15
@corvus15 3 жыл бұрын
Ah but he could have gotten a Victory+. It's where you're on the verge of winning, get excited and accidentally screw yourself, in this case probably by milling himself out.
@MetalCoreHog131
@MetalCoreHog131 3 жыл бұрын
My friend has Martin as his commander. This video triggered so many painful memories.
@mitchpich1604
@mitchpich1604 3 жыл бұрын
This right after an episode of the yugioh progression series? Talk about a great day
@lvg2534
@lvg2534 3 жыл бұрын
Typical game from the Command Zone I'd say. Nobody played any interaction. Just nothing. I enjoyed watching the Zada deck go off, but it was a total non-game otherwise. Manson wasn't the only one playing solitaire here, he was just better at it than the others. Also, to those complaining about power creep, the Zada deck had nothing to do with that because it was mostly built using (very) old cards. It was just a more explosive (or in general powerful) deck than the others at the table.
@carlosmiguelteixeiraott3643
@carlosmiguelteixeiraott3643 3 жыл бұрын
That Runaway Steam-Kin was very appropriate, because Manson "Ran away" with that game like a steam train.
@MyT1m3
@MyT1m3 3 жыл бұрын
Ladee's hair is sooooo pretty this episode
@Mizelei2012
@Mizelei2012 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, she's a total superstar
@Sulamanjansulttaani
@Sulamanjansulttaani 3 жыл бұрын
Looks pretty but rotten to the core, burn the witch!
@GuardianAngelEatos
@GuardianAngelEatos 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see Murph getting to play on camera! It was nice to see him after only hearing about him for nearly two years! It's hard to believe how long It's been since this channel started! I'm so proud of you guys and how far you've come! You've come a long way!
@ExodaCrown
@ExodaCrown 3 жыл бұрын
It sucks that Ladee's deck didn't do anything, makes for a boring episode when one deck does nothing. Well half the decks didn't really do anything they were built to do. They need to fix it, I wouldn't mind if the hands and first draw was set up so each deck could have a strong start. With the exception of insta-win hands with combo pieces and the mana to start it.
@VeznansDeadbeatDad
@VeznansDeadbeatDad 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I enjoy jimmy and josh, having a full set of fresh players was a treat!
@Flailkerrin
@Flailkerrin 3 жыл бұрын
There is some small entertainment in watching any kind of deck really go off, but personally I prefer a bit more interaction and back and forth rather than half the episode just being one player spinning wheels, doing degenerate things, until they get round to winning. Ah well~
@Tymbaroth
@Tymbaroth 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I don't think it makes for a very good show when more than 25% of the game is basically one player's turn, even if it's the grand finale of the game. It's already sad when one deck underperforms compared to the others, but here nobody was really doing anything except for Tahngarth. Maybe it's just that the power levels didn't match, or just a case of plain bad luck but I felt this show was lacking compared to the other ones.
@Flailkerrin
@Flailkerrin 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tymbaroth Agreed. Now, I think Extra Turns is a great place to showcase some of these one-sided watch a person go off for half the episode, so long as it's once in a while and doesn't become the norm. It's funny, often I'll find myself bored if a game is just try to play a thing, removal, thing, counter, thing, removal. Yet in a game like this one I really wish there were a few more roadblocks to victory. Eh, that's life~
@ertai222
@ertai222 3 жыл бұрын
"let's smash" well if you insist.
@crypto727
@crypto727 3 жыл бұрын
Shortest episode ever. The ads felt longer than the game itself! Great job Manson!
@StackedEDH
@StackedEDH 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Zada representation! (Don't sleep on mono-red storm, folks!)
@Russian_engineer_bmstu
@Russian_engineer_bmstu 3 жыл бұрын
The new red God will power up her even further
@StretchyPlays
@StretchyPlays 3 жыл бұрын
I really liked that this wasn't all about new commanders and sets for a change. Don't get me wrong, I like that stuff too, but there's been such a steady release of new sets that it seems like every episode is all about showing off new commanders. I like seeing old commanders facing off again.
@notartz1794
@notartz1794 3 жыл бұрын
More extra turns please!!
@thatboied8
@thatboied8 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly found this a little boring? Not because of the cast or anything, just because it was such a hard stomp that none of the other decks got to do anything. Part of the fun for me is seeing all these interesting decks actually function and have cool interactions etc... Maybe do a part 2?
@mikerichen3178
@mikerichen3178 3 жыл бұрын
I sing Rhythm of the Night literally every single time I play that card! My day is now complete, Jake!
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 3 жыл бұрын
LOL Me too :P
@DUES_EX
@DUES_EX 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Josh, I’m a patreon!!! I don’t know if you saw but I asked you if you could do a queen marchesa deck! Please!
@OneDeaf
@OneDeaf 3 жыл бұрын
Jake is my new personal hero!
@joshmurphy484
@joshmurphy484 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@DigiBossBattle
@DigiBossBattle 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshmurphy484 I found his presence grating and his glasses don't complement his face shape at all. Maybe that was in an effort to make himself seem smarter but to me, it isn't landing. I think he should really either clean up the beard or fully commit to a mustache. All things considered, I'd still give him a 10/10.
@xicy133x
@xicy133x 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine putting not two, not three, but four ad breaks, didn’t realize I was watching cable, not to mention regular KZbin ads
@roygbiv390
@roygbiv390 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, Lady Danger saying “Lets Smash” is just not fair
@timnichol6566
@timnichol6566 3 жыл бұрын
Um yes please!!! 😉
@Knightmarex5
@Knightmarex5 3 жыл бұрын
Bonk.
@nebDDa
@nebDDa 3 жыл бұрын
dudes who are down bad
@SamanthaIsTyping
@SamanthaIsTyping 3 жыл бұрын
This time, it was the Jimmies that did the rustling.
@halphillips-dibb3449
@halphillips-dibb3449 3 жыл бұрын
Was literally under a minute to the vid
@ivepesusic8792
@ivepesusic8792 3 жыл бұрын
and this is why we play interaction XD
@Iam4lpha
@Iam4lpha 3 жыл бұрын
Ladee danger- “let’s smash!” Me- okay deal 🤷🏻
@ak47al123
@ak47al123 3 жыл бұрын
Not a big fan of competitive EDH as we are seldom able to see what the decks can do before the game is finished, but hey, it's still pretty fun.
@aaronvincent816
@aaronvincent816 3 жыл бұрын
Ok i've never played against zada. That looked insane. holy cow.
@Danothyus1
@Danothyus1 3 жыл бұрын
i have a friend who plays Zada, this always happens.
@zara6854
@zara6854 3 жыл бұрын
No control decks unfortunately
@danielslack9114
@danielslack9114 3 жыл бұрын
I have and learned that Zada is kill on sight or die the next turn.
@brandonnielsen3610
@brandonnielsen3610 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Zada deck. The game either goes like this or zada gets countered/destroyed the instant she’s on the battlefield. If there’s no Zada then the deck falls flat
@ty_sylicus
@ty_sylicus 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty funny game. Sadly, I predicted the winner while hoping it wouldn't happen the whole time! 😅
@Jollyroger84103
@Jollyroger84103 3 жыл бұрын
Manson even missed his land drops twice, and still kicked ass.
@Magidex
@Magidex 3 жыл бұрын
He kept Steam Kin and Ruby. He knew what he was doing.
@mario6148
@mario6148 3 жыл бұрын
Recently played against a Zada deck. So boring to just sit there for 15 minutes.
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