Kohler CV20 with Nikki Carb Fuel Solenoid Delete / Bypass

[@SaintaugustineGreen-bh3bu]

Exhaust should have been directed anywhere but the tire, speaking of emissions and California.

[@judisinger3693]

This Kohler 25hp engine has been a headache since I got it and previous owners had same issue. I've had it worked on 5 or more times for not running. I'm hoping this will solve my problem and if it backfires and blows up, good riddance!🤦🤦😂😂😂

[@Tomc8030]

Thank you for your help! I live in Texas and I’m probably just going to replace the valve, lord knows I don’t want to one of my California transplants to get cancer! That was to funny!

[@patrickfutato6555]

Glad some viewers have a sense of humor. 😂

[@bullitt454]

oh and by the way this thing is a beast

[@johnanthony2545]

Put a manual fuel shut off in the line you won’t regret it. Shut it off when your done mowing and let it die then turn of key.

[@budzillasohoski9858]

Hey, just wanted to say thanks. I truly appreciate the fact that someone is willing to take time out of their day to film and explain this sort of thing knowing there’s no reward and you most likely won’t even know and/or ever meet the people you’re helping. Great video. To the point and pure fact. Thank you. Oh yeah….one more thing…it really is astonishing to me how so many products cause cancer in California but not in any of the other 49 states…You saying that made me smile and gave me a “Things that make you go hmmmm” chin scratch : )

[@patrickfutato6555]

Glad I could help and entertain. 😂

[@ggdd8874]

Duct tape on the set SO GREAT .My seat is custimized the same way LOOKS GREAT .

[@aldocruz1005]

I’m getting 9.7 - 10.1 Volts to mine . Is that my issue ? Not sure if kohlers need 12 v to activate .

[@Mr1rooskie]

Worked perfect! Thanks!!

[@jwpajak]

This sounds like my problem. I will check it out.

[@larry3099]

Great video! I went to by a bolt but was struggling to understand how it was going to work. Now I know why. The tractor is not running great.

[@cliffwendy3765]

Nice video, yet makes total sense.

[@vajguy]

Thanks buddy. This really helped me out. My clubcadet zforce would crank but not start. Replaced spark plugs, fuel pump, fuel filter, fuel lines, and cleaned the carburetor. Fuel would flow through but it would just not start. After seeing your video, I knew it was the issue I had. Removed the spring and it works well now.

[@patrickfutato6555]

Awesome! Glad I could help.

[@auburneverything980]

Thank u Mr. Futato Absolutely helped me out ! Ty buddie

[@f296877]

Thanks! I deleted my solenoid and it cranked right up.

[@frankdavidson9675]

its easyto tet solenoid unscre it if 1 wire hold solenoid against eng to ground nowturn switck key on and off tiny plunger should go down with key on and come up with key off thats the tiny little plunger about 1/4 inch long if you have 2 wires just hold it with wires conn turn key on and off if should go up and down

[@judisinger3693]

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!!! My 25hp Kohler on my GT5000 Craftsman riding mower would only run opening and closing choke. When I removed fuel solenoid, the tip did not move like all the YT videos said it should, I could see holes were closed, but did not think to take it apart at the bottom. Old solenoid I think is just stuck from storing too long with gas. I ordered new carb and solenoid on that one looked just like old one with no spring movement. Now I know it is probably ok on inside and will test tomorrow with old Kohler carb that was replaced a couple years ago since new carb is a cheapie I basically got for new solenoid, gaskets, shut off and fuel filter! If it won't run I will do as you suggest and see if it runs without spring and post. Your video had all the answers I was looking for!!! Having lost 2 of my friends that did this work for me, I am doing the work myself with the help of YT. Amazing!!!!

[@judisinger3693]

I got the new carb with functioning fuel solenoid installed and mower runs better than it has in years. Only issue was wire was to short anfmd had to be lengthened! I think the last few carb cleans missed the stuck or sticky solenoid and it never did run right. Both mechanics have passed, so I can't discuss it with them. Definite design flaw and this will be first thing I check when things go south again! Thanks again for all your knowledge and for taking time to share it with us. I'll be watching!!!

[@papieg1401]

Thank you! Did this over a year ago, solved my problem! Re watching because I'm about to do an identical mower my neighbor gave me!

[@patrickfutato6555]

Awesome!

[@davidgriffin9740]

Thanks!! it was driving me crazy!

[@Noahslawncareandrepairservices]

Thanks boss also I haven't finished the full video yet but if he discussed this already you will hear this 2 times when you do this you kill switch will not work on some modules don't worry though just grab a pair of pliers and un plug the boot that goes over your spark ug and make a graound gping from your coiod hook it up to a switch and thqt will be your new kill switc

[@patrickfutato6555]

My kill switch works just fine.

[@jimiwebb7174]

Saved me a whole lot grief. Thanks man!!!

[@hphillips7425]

Nice I have a similar setup I will check to see if I can disable the same way

[@nelsonsantos770]

I did the same with Kohler engine mounted on Ariens, and now it works pretty good! I have to run the engine until there's no gas in the carburator and it doesn't backfire at all. It's only backfires when there's still gas on carburator!

[@drteknical6571]

And THAT is why the solenoid is on there in the first place!!!

[@carlthornton3076]

Very Good!

[@patrickfutato6555]

Thanks!

[@ivojara]

Thank you bery much, I believe my car has the same problem, will try it tomorrow morning.-

[@patrickfutato6555]

I know nothing about car carbs, so I’m not recommending it, but you do you.

[@bullitt454]

saved me a ton of headache...2006 dixie chopper that sat up for 8 years....23 hp kohler twin...carb cleaned new fuel pump and plugs oil change and a very satisfied customer thanks to your simple video

[@patrickfutato6555]

Awesome!

[@bradanderson9524]

Does it backfire if you bypass the fuel solenoid? How to prevent backfire

[@patrickfutato6555]

I’ve never had any back fires, either before or after doing this mod.

[@foldingchaise8387]

Nice seat !!!!

[@bobbysoto7328]

"Nice" 👍

[@frankdavidson9675]

why are deleating the solenoid mine works 21 yrs old mower

[@patrickfutato6555]

Not everyone is so lucky.

[@matts6869]

Mine does not have the jet part on top of the solenoid like yours, I assume that is in my carb. Can I just remove the spring and stem like you did and reinstall the solenoid. I see some folks clipping the stem off but I think that’s because they are usually stuck. Mine aren’t stuck so I thought why not take out like you did.

[@snoopdogie187]

I'm pretty sure the one I did wasn't stuck inside either. At least one of them wasn't. As long as you only remove the plunger and the corresponding spring, you are good to go.

[@matts6869]

@@snoopdogie187 removing them solved the issue.

[@phillipmoody7078]

Mine has no threads! It just twist round and round. Could it be a Snap-On?

[@patrickfutato6555]

Phillip Moody which part isn’t threaded, the outer casing where mine has two hex fitting. Sounds like you may have a different carb or solenoid. Can you post the part number?

[@frankdavidson9675]

@@patrickfutato6555 it will have a least 1 wire or some have 2 wires being that it seals the carb bowl it should screw in with a rubber seal ?????

[@frankdavidson9675]

it may be your filter is letting small trashthru to clog solenoid ----some mowers may not have a filter

[@patrickfutato6555]

Nothing will ever clog my solenoid again.

[@frankdavidson9675]

@@patrickfutato6555 with a manual cut off it will work fine thats all the silenoid was for t o stop fuel flow as switch is turned off

[@patrickfutato6555]

@@frankdavidson9675 my fuel usually stops when the fuel pump does. I have a manual cutoff valve too, but I don’t think I’ve ever used it since I did this delete over a year ago. Engine is running better than ever. Now the rest of the mower… let’s just say I might need to upload a few more videos.

[@frankdavidson9675]

you can screw that one back onlooks like the pin is missing so add a cut off

[@patrickfutato6555]

I don’t need to do anything to it. It works. Lol.

[@frankdavidson9675]

@@patrickfutato6555 why did you take it off if it works ????????

[@patrickfutato6555]

@@frankdavidson9675 it works because I took it off! 😂

[@frankdavidson9675]

@@patrickfutato6555 so be it thks

[@drteknical6571]

"deleted my solenoid and it cranked right up" Yes, and then every time you shut it off, that big 22HP engine keeps sucking fuel into the cylinder as the engine slows to a stop. If there is any trace of red-hot carbon in the head - and there usually is - then your engine will backfire violently back thru the carb. Eventually this will damage the engine. Have fun with that. This is NOT a valid repair. They put the solenoid on there for a good reason; just replace it properly. (sorry about the "fool" statement!)

[@patrickfutato6555]

Cool.

[@billconserva1461]

The idea of the Solenoid is for a good reason. Engineers aren't screwing with you and you aren't out smarting them. First, It's part of the Safety System. If you disconnected the other Engineered Safety items such as the Seat switch, that means if you roll over the machine, the Fuel will still flow. Even with all the other Safety Systems in place, you now eliminated one of them. You have no way of stopping Fuel flow when you shut the key off, unless you put a manual shut of valve in the line to replace the Solenoid. Many tanks are mounted higher than carb, so gas will always flow and if your needle and seat in the float bowl are not perfect, gas will flood the carb over time between mowing's. Part of the real regular maintenance is to clean the solenoid plunger, which most people never do. By the way, that passage in the solenoid for fuel, is not the Carb metering jet, it only controls the volume of fuel to the carb. So, why eliminate a good system, for lack of maintenance or at worst a lousy $15.00 part that usually last 5 years or more? Doing so you are working against yourself. Hey, Just sayin.

[@patrickfutato6555]

Well, 2 years later it still works. That’s something I couldn’t say for two weeks doing things the “right way”. So yeah, cool story.

[@snoopdogie187]

Please explain then why all the older engines didn't have this, and we didn't have this issue. If you roll the entire tractor over, guess what, the fuel won't be leaving the tank through the hose that goes the carb, problem solved. It will be leaving through the tank lid though. Also, do you think it would be tied to the key then? I forget if it is connected to the seat switch also, but that isn't an ideal situation for making sure no fuel leaks if the tractor flips over. You also understand it is the job of the carb float to shut the fuel going into the carb? If that isn't sealing, you have an issue anyway, and that should get corrected. Can't say I run into that issue that often though. Well I do have it on one engine, but that engine sat a really long time. I should rebuild the carb, but I use it once or twice a year and always forget. You do know the solenoid is there more for emissions? It prevents small amounts of vapor from escaping? It prevents fuel running into the engine once the key is shut off, but you know the engine doesn't stop instantly. Not having backfire once the engine is shut off is also a nice benefit of not wasting this little bit of fuel.

[@cron410]

It turns off the fuel while the engine is off, so it doesn't get flooded of you have a leaky fuel switch on a gravity feed tank. Kohler supplied these engines in a lot of different configurations, it's not needed with a fuel pump model. I can't believe the level of ignorance in this video, not everything is a conspiracy or govt overreach.

[@patrickfutato6555]

This model has a fuel pump, it is not gravity fed. Also, try to recognize a little sarcasm. Thanks for the good laugh.

[@auburneverything980]

@@patrickfutato6555 man there's always gonna be that 1 out there . U did great video Conspiracy , I must missed that one !! Lol 😆

[@cornhubchamp]

Hell yeah! Thank you so much! Reppin an oldie with that shirt too

[@patrickfutato6555]

Thanks! Glad it helped.

[@ivabuttitch]

Can’t you just unplug the wire to the solenoid?

[@patrickfutato6555]

No, that results in the valve being closed.

[@ivabuttitch]

@@patrickfutato6555 thanks for the reply