A Brief Retrospective | TV-Show Season 9E VS Comic Book Differences Explained | The Walking Dead

[@NicoParasite]

I'm gonna miss this series Koroto, one of if not THE best retrospective series in youtube imo.

[@neehko18]

Same here 😢

[@TheFerg714]

Bro, he's still got like 12+ videos left to make in this series. Don't get sad yet.

[@ImJusMoney]

@@TheFerg714 ong why they actin like hes ending it already?

[@fybso3057]

If you love these kinde of retrospectives, check out Dragonball Dissection by Mistare Fusion

[@andrewsherry6460]

Henry's death always annoyed me. Carl suffering through the guilt of essentially being the reason 12 people died was always compelling to me, and I was hoping that this event could turn Henry into a more hardened, realistic character, not overtaken by naivety. But no, let's kill another one of Carol's kids I guess?

[@dwightyboy5324]

Exactly how I feel. That decision has always annoyed me because it just feels like they just did it for shock and to just recycle storylines for Carol. I honestly would've rather they killed Ezekiel and Rosita like they did in the comics because it would've been more heartbreaking for the fans; because I remember at the time a good portion of the fans couldn't stand Henry and weren't that upset to see him killed off but rather only felt sad for Carol.

[@lucasdolding6924]

@@dwightyboy5324 I don't think killing Ezekiel and Rosita would've been a good idea for the show, having just lost Rick, Maggie, Carl and Jesus, the show needed to keep around some core characters that have big screen presence. A lot of viewers would probably have been turned off which is an unfortunate factor of writing for television rather than a comic. Making Henry a significant character for this season and to then kill him off at the end gives that same feeling of killing off a really big character despite their significance to the story only being relatively new and their death affecting some of the actual big characters (Carol, Ezekiel, Lydia). Yeah it's repetitive but it did work and they didn't have many options.

[@dwightyboy5324]

@@lucasdolding6924 I get what you're saying but I still think they could've done it. Part of the reason I say that was because the cast became really bloated and a lot of characters didn't really get enough screentime in my opinion.

[@lucasdolding6924]

@@dwightyboy5324 I still think Ezekiel and Rosita wouldn’t have been good choices, but I don’t disagree that the cast became bloated by the end. It’s not a problem for me as I’m pretty good at retaining a lot of information and detail like random characters for some reason, but it did get to the point where I’m having to remind my parents who some of the characters are when we watched it. Though I don’t feel like there are really too many characters that are superfluous, most of them served somewhat of a purpose however small like Nabila’s relationship to Jerry, and I wouldn’t have killed off someone like her just because there’s too many people to keep track of since there’s no real reason to, so it just gets a bit inaccessible unfortunately.

[@dwightyboy5324]

@@lucasdolding6924 no I get your saying and I'm the same way, I'm really good at keeping track of the characters, but I think more screentime should've been dedicated to more characters. Take characters like Alden, Magna, Luke, Kelly, and Lydia for example. Most of those characters barely did anything much during season 10. In season 11 Lydia barely did anything noteworthy. And part of the reason I say Ezekiel and Rosita should've died like their comic characters is because I think they would've been more heartbreaking and it would've made the pike scene more depressing and impactful. I think for a lot of people outside of Henry their deaths didnt really hit that hard and most people didn't seem to really miss them. I'm not saying that killing Rosita and Ezekiel wouldn't have had consequences but I think that if they wrote it right and later showcased other characters it possibly could've worked

[@kylewoosley8440]

I found the TV version of the border scene GUT-WRENCHING. I didn’t care for Henry much as a character, but Carol and Daryl in that scene do some of their best work in the series.

[@RedMist59]

I remember the days leading up to issue 144's release. The teasers they put out with three panels from the next issue was reduced to one panel and a message talking about how there would be key moments and to not spoil it. Add in the cover of Rick looking distressed, the title being "..." and this issue being the last one in compendium 3, the anticipation was really something.

[@andrewsherry6460]

I missed Rick throughout this arc, but I really appreciated the existence of Daryl. Although not the same as Rick, the gravitas of having Daryl interact with Alpha still slaps.

[@Jokerman518]

Connie's fight in episode 13 is insane considering she is deaf and they dont really emphasize the terror of silence till she gets locked in the house later on with Virgil.

[@wargearinternational7679]

My first reaction on seeing the border scene was thinking back to the originaly planned ending in the coming. I.e Ricks group arriving at Alexandria and then skipping to a statue of him surrounded by walkers. Its didnt really seems like an alternate ending anymore, but rather that the show was taking the long way there, as in litteraly showing the death of every character. At the point of the border scene only Carol, Darryl and Michone are left alive from seasons 1 - 3, yes Rick and Meggie comeback eventually, but they went missing for a long time. Using Tara (Season 4) and Ennid (Season 5) as redshirts to barely increase the killcount of a scene to estrange the earlier seasons of the walking dead with new ones was certainly an intressting whritting choice to witness.

[@yjoltetepique8555]

we need to lobby kirkman to extend the walking dead comic to force Koroto to make more of these

[@Koroto]

I don't even want an extension (Commonwealth is kinda boring), I want him to cook up something completely new from day 1. 😭 I want to feel that sheer horror of Rick getting his hand yoinked off, the bloodbath of the prison etc. 😭

[@darkknight5541]

But the show is over, so one-half of the retrospective would be missing.

[@yjoltetepique8555]

@@darkknight5541 they wouldn’t miss that cash grab they’ll come back on there own. if not we the fans recreate all the scenes😈😈😈

[@darkknight5541]

@@yjoltetepique8555 Or make another spin-off.

[@WelcomeToLoco]

Walking Dead in Alaska. It’s too cold for the walkers to roam except for 3 months out of the year where all hell breaks loose because the survivors aren’t prepared or experienced with Walkers.

[@artamir6605]

Even though i already knew who would end up on the pikes before watching the episode i really liked how they let Alpha interact with Ezekiel. Must have given the comic fans a real scare.

[@cjleehaze]

I was so disappointed during the spike scene since we didn’t get see any of them get decapitated , I was it was going to be as brutal as Glens and Abe’s death scene but it wasn’t even close.

[@azisokal5497]

I actually liked the highwaymen at least for filler. They gave some more screen time to Ezekiel which is really great but I think the most important thing was showing just how important something as simple as a movie could be. It really helped hammer home what Ezekiel was saying about the kids needing to see a movie for the first time and maybe the adults needed the reminder too

[@lilacrabbit4746]

I just finished binge watching this entire series!!! Your videos are so amazing, I love your commentary and they're cut so well! Can't wait for the rest of them to come out :D

[@sarahrogers1271]

I can’t believe this series is over. Great video series I’m still trying to wrap up attack on Titian so I can watch your retrospective

[@MichaelSmith-es5ku]

Border scene could’ve better imo. I hate how Angela rewrote the deaths because she didn’t want fans to know what to expect, then killed off Carl’s replacement and the hilltop’s last leader. Hilltop wasn’t nearly as important as it was in the comics

[@Asdosie]

Love these videos. Started to re-watch the walking dead several months ago on my second monitor while working, Found your videos and binge watched them as I viewed the episodes! been going strong for several months now, Keep up the amazing work! You just posted this one and it's just where I am now! Loving these videos! ❤

[@AwesomeTheAsim]

I can't believe I am nearing the end of this series. Your videos have kept me entertained for so long. Thank you for creating it.

[@Sansyr]

One of my favorite series on youtube! thank you, Korotos! always a good day when you upload

[@ZacksRockingLifestyle]

Life is a bit different now that TWD is over

[@jareddoherty4842]

Fr

[@crusader2112]

Agreed.

[@Koroto]

Aye 😭 The last couple of seasons might've been hit and miss, but it was such a constant in my life 😭

[@ZacksRockingLifestyle]

@@Koroto it was among the few shows that got me to keep a TV at home, that was for sure!

[@lucasdolding6924]

@@Koroto Especially feels weird since the comic, game and series all ended pretty close together, like the whole franchise just suddenly ended

[@tenthshadowstep]

I wanted war when I first read the border wall

[@CRIDIC]

Bro this was perfect timing I was just checking KZbin this morning to see if you had uploaded. Love this series and what you've done.

[@friendedtreefilms]

Everytime one of these come out I have a good days

[@jakeharmon542]

I think the moment of making us think Rosita died in the pikes was cheap; however, I did not care for Tara, so it was okay in the end. Kind of shocked you didn't mention Siddiq's speech at the end of 9x15

[@solidsadd]

Siddiq was top 3 for me💜

[@Koroto]

I ended up cutting the Siddiq speech for time as it's kind of exactly what you expect and because I talk a bunch about him in the season 10 videos. His S10 story was top tier imo 👍

[@themagnificentorange672]

@alexspruse1420 I loved it

[@bishbosh4815]

Very true about Carl vs Henry. I've never actually read the comics, but you spelled it out. Carl is a badass gigachad and Henry is a naive teenager thinking with his hormones. Yeah he was trying to save Lydia from an abusive mother, but he just goes in there stupidly thinking he can just spring Lydia outta there with no consequences, whereas Carl doesn't give a fuck and will take them on if he has to and he's capable of it. Henry, even show Carl for that matter, is never really shown to be as much of a capable survivor as Carl, or as jaded, complex and badass, he's just a dumb kid thinking with his penis, thinking he can be the hero and solve what is wrong in the world, and that either makes him endearing or a hormonal adolescent moron depending on how you feel about teenagers. And you're right, Judith is written like an adult in a child's body, similar to like Lilly in Modern Family 😂, which is cute and badass but unrealistic, where as Henry, like all teenagers in TWD, is written to be a total dumbass. And the worst thing is he doesn't even get to live to see the consequence of his actions. While it is more tragic that Henry's noble and virtuous goal results in his own death by the hands of the mother of the girl he loves, and several other characters whose lives are cut short just as they were finding themselves and building a life, it isn't quite as impactful as Carl having to live with himself after being responsible for the pike deaths and having that blood on his hands. It's more devastating for Carol losing ANOTHER child, but it just ends up making her reckless, careless and vengeful in season 10, rendering her brain dead and acting purely out of emotion, which makes her unbearable to watch and almost getting other characters killed in the process. Ugh... I do love season 9 and the Whisperer arc is one of the better ones. But compared to the comics, it really slips up in a lot of areas. But I also think Carl was already pretty unpopular, it he had lived and fulfilled his comic arc, and Rosita and Ezekiel had died as a result of his actions, people would've hated him even more. So it's had to say what would've been better

[@partycity9416]

I wouldn’t really categorize Carl’s idea to go after the whispers as the most smart bad ass move it certainly wasn’t , but it made more sense for Carl the Henry

[@bishbosh4815]

@@partycity9416 Carl just has more street cred

[@noahmagana137]

I’ll admit that Henry was a poor replacement for Carl

[@3Guys1Video]

Same There’s just no way you can relate to him just after Carl’s death

[@noahmagana137]

@@3Guys1Video him being stupid didn’t help

[@3Guys1Video]

@@noahmagana137 exactly

[@lucasdolding6924]

I didn't mind too much since I fancied Matt Lintz more than Chandler, though that's mainly cos they never let Chandler cut his hair, he looks awful with the longer hair imo.

[@noahmagana137]

@@lucasdolding6924 they had to hide his age somehow

[@vanitasviole]

*as a brazilian* I want a the walking dead spinoff taking place in Brazil thank you

[@jareddoherty4842]

I’ve been waiting so long for this to get uploaded lmaoo

[@thasixsage]

Krotos will you be doing any retrospective for fear? I wouldn’t blame you if you didn’t but it would be cool.

[@mirzaali529]

I don’t want this series to end 😭🥹 Will you retrospective dead city ?

[@trippy_tearzzz]

I been here from the beginning and im waiting till the end

[@darkknight5541]

Carl: Starts a war because he got horny. Henry: Dies because he got horny.

[@kafurnakis1389]

Rosita’s and Judith’s deaths made me realize how much Robert hates babies

[@BrianOmegaWolf]

Jesus season 11 seems like a shitshow and they said 7 was horrible like Heath disappearing but season 11 a whole community needed outside the tv explanation

[@kaosdays2146]

YESSSSS ITS HEREEEE

[@SleepyTaylor]

I got a title for the snow spinoff, fear the freezing cold

[@rosiemerry4797]

Episode 915 Of The Show and Issue 144 Of the Comics Is kindve like the Red Wedding except no one’s getting married part. The Red wedding is event that takes place in Book three of a song of Ice And Fire; A storm of swords. and in season 3 Episode 9 of GOT.

[@theli11]

You didn’t mention Siddiq’s speech which is my favorite part of the episode and is really important for the first half of season 10. I will say that I did love Henry’s character and I do appreciate him dying in season 9.

[@josephmatthews7698]

Best winter in a zombie show was ironically in a show called Black Summer.

[@christianmanka3884]

I kinda liked the Highwayman... :( I was pretty sad that they were all killed

[@luisibarra3220]

lesss fucking go new retrospective video just in time for breakfast

[@ETLettuce]

I think gigachad judith is actually an interesting comparison to the virgin Henry. Because it shows senority doesnt equal being inherintly smarter

[@Cable787]

you should do retrospectives on the preacher show and comic next

[@josephmatthews7698]

Beta and alpha in the show were frickin superb and this coming from a guy who hated the whisperer arc in the and comics. Those two actors absolutely nailed it and dramatically improved an otherwise not good or at best average storyline.

[@DBTGAMER]

Rosita was technically pregnant and she killed 13 people.😮🥺 Alpha is a very dangerous villain In the comic and show. I am enjoying the video's only 2 seasons left. Keep up the great work. 🙂

[@darkknight5541]

Technically pregnant? How can anyone only be technically pregnant?

[@foretwentydude]

In the show, 'the border' upset me, because what was the point of killing of Carl Papa

[@akshaytrayner1960]

Great video

[@vincenta8652]

I loved the highway men episode I always wanted an episode with them going out to simply get things for entertainment. You know … real people. It also gave them to show the kids and everyone at the fair. Who wouldn’t want to see a movie after not seeing one after a decade?

[@latviandragon2718]

11:34 hey thats my comment

[@dannynattis4460]

Let’s goooooo! Thank you korotos for another banger

[@maxipad3850]

im going to be so depressed when you finish this retrospective series

[@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215]

The highwaymen were so cute!! They deserved more than six seconds

[@brightwolfz]

They probably chose to kill Henry because he and Judith were going to be filling the same role as "Carl replacement" going forward. While narratively it would make more sense to keep Henry and kill Judith (not the mention her face being on a pike would be an absolute gut punch), I think TWD team in general probably thought that killing her off would cause a lot of problems and piss off the fanbase even more. Could have relegated Judith to NOT be a Carl replacement, but then what do you do with her that can both effect the main story but not completely throw it off the rails by creating new story threads that either change the entire outcome of an arc or end of meaning nothing in the end (although it's not like they cared much for that if this retrospective is anything to go off of, haha).

[@vincenta8652]

Makes no sense to keep Henry over Judith. Although I don’t think it was was necessary to kill Henry either

[@ottoww289]

When the show showed Tara’s death they made a trick to make us think it was Rosita, well when I first watched it I thought it was Rosita even when we saw the head so I was surprised when Rosita was alive in the next episode

[@Origin._.]

When I was watching The Walking Dead show, I got way too attached to Henry. I thought he was the replacement for Carl, so seeing his head on the stick, I cried man.

[@Almightyh1]

Can you do a comic book recap

[@lukaslambs5780]

It’s always wild how over time we (you, not me lol) have made so much progress over time, we are so far into the series now!!!!

[@LLD2206]

When I watched the border scene my brain just shut off. I kept thinking, "no, no they didn't do that. That's not what just happened" the worst part was is as it was happening, I guessed who the final face was.

[@MobiusTrigger7]

Carls comic book character was split between Judith and Henry, its slap in the face obvious lmao. and we see Michonne close Alexandria off to protect Judith. but due to the fact shes so distant in protecting her, we see it allows Judith to run off. Michonne is not paying attentions to Judith rather shes paying attentions to possible threats. idk to me this was unmissable details. and the highwaymen are simple, they 1 are canon fodder, and 2 they show that there are small groups that populate the world.

[@spacemanperson_3104]

One thing I never got on the pike kill list is that Tara could of been a new Maggie Henry was Carl and Enid should of been the big death

[@tytybaby06]

I started reading the comics after the Negan cliff hanger so I knew the whisperers were coming but I didn’t know who’d be on the wall. So I was scared to see king EZ & Rosita but glad they didn’t & henry & Tara was a shock cause as you said I thought he was the new Carl but it was way past Enid’s time without Carl she had no real place in the story

[@Flipitmixit]

I love how this walking dead retrospective hasnt been Brief at all

[@nobodyepicz7538]

This is the best sh!t ever, sad its almost over.. its been gooood ride so far! gonna miss it.

[@mandawins02]

i was one of the people that stopped watching a little bit after they killed glenn for numerous reasons but this year decided to skim around and catch up on what happened in seasons 9 thru 11. its a real shame AMC hurt their show so much because alpha is so cool, way better then the governor or negan imo would have been nice to see rick, carl, maggie, etc deal with her instead of just giving poor carol another child to cry about.

[@loman4145]

*Rick calmly said

[@loman4145]

Great

[@mateowar5916]

I am very displeased that you disrespected the highwaymen. Ozzy was a real leader, he only joined the kingdom to let his crew watch a movie. While Ezekiel was watching the movie when he should have been watching his son, and The Daryl gang was getting ***** like scrubs, Ozzy and Alek were protecting the movie! DJ protected the movie 😭

[@rsdillbot3646]

I think the difference between Henry and Judith is their parents.

[@sunlessllama6969]

I LOVE YOU 😭

[@wiremuharimate6666]

Yeah that height thing about Negan was stupid it's like some people acted like he was 5 foot 10 no Negan in the comics is 6 foot 4 and Jeffree Dean Morgan is 6 foot 1 it's really not that big of a deal at least they got someone tall to play Negan and no one could play off the charisma of Negan like Jeffree Dean Morgan either so people shouldn't have gotten upset about it

[@strwbrryhearts6942]

I only read the first 50 editions of the comics as I was literally 7 when they started releasing...my dad let me read the prison arc when I was 9 I don't know why lmao...BUT basically I went into this with little to no idea of what would happen, and I genuinely remember the border scene being jaw dropping. I don't cry at shows very often but thinking about Carol losing her 4th child and seeing Daryl try to protect her from the reality of the situation was insane! I agree that the 1,8,16 formula was getting old, which made the border scene even more unexpected for me. I do like that they didn't make us wait til the next season to see some of the aftermath, and seeing Carol/Ezekial's relationship + the kingdom fall apart was absolutely heart wrenching for me as I always really enjoyed their dynamic. I never comment on videos but the border scene in particular was mentioned here and I loved it so much I felt like I needed to comment lol. Thank you for the fantastic videos, you help keep my TWD fixation going even when I'm not actively re-watching the show for the 3rd time lol. Great work Koroto :] !!

[@Manterok]

Yes! I can't wait for your next video! I love this series and I agree about ths snow. Winter survival is so much more demanding. I'd hate that part of the apocalypse lol. Just imagine trying to bathe in that shit! I just wouldn't... I'd be a fuckin skank lmao 😂🤣

[@18KaratRunOfBadLuck]

the whole stakes on head part was like "oh okay moving on" for me watching it, the show was already just kind of making me get annoyed and bored of it.

[@deliriushunter]

Thy pyke scene in the show was the last incredible scene tbh.. it was so goddamn good

[@sevenisannoying]

the border scene is kinda lack luster when u realize the only characters on it that u care about is henry (ehhhh) enid, and tara.....

[@RollingxBigshot]

34:00 brah you just described a spin-off

[@rxgz5722]

ive waited so long 👴🏽

[@BoyWonder1914]

The show really softballed it with the victims compared to the comic. I knew the showrunners weren’t gonna be THAT bold. Still got the message across pretty effectively though

[@MobiusTrigger7]

When i saw the boarder in the show i leaped out of my chair in shock lol but Henrys death was lame should have been a full replacement for carl

[@noturmum7967]

Yoy shiuld watch black summer s2 Its set in the snow

[@whereistheserotonin]

do y’all think rick was a good leader? like someone to follow in this world? i think a lot of the good things that happened to them, mostly happened due to other people finding it or making those decisions

[@whereistheserotonin]

he was cool tho when he had his unhinged moments

[@Ajwhosover]

Watching the border scene without knowing a single thing about it before left me honestly stunned. 9X15 was something I had never even thought of them doing and everyone always just trashed the show and says it got bad after Negan but the whisperer arc and this dagger is the most impactful thing I’ve seen watching the whole show

[@djravewave1118]

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you had a good experience with the border scene, but to me personally I thought it was probably the worst moment in the show. Henry dying is a W becuase he's unberable in the show to me, Edith pretty much fell into obscurity, and Tara was the only important death there. Everyone else was barely considered a character. It'd be more forgivable if there was any semblence of explaination as to how Alpha even got all of them from the fair and whatnot, but it just happens with zero mention as to how. I guess Alpha is just fucking cranked or something

[@wesleybrown9018]

When my wife and I saw the border scene our main thought was surprised the show had the balls to do it.

[@keifer7]

You’re here to smash that like and subscribe button lmao

[@Grayson2905]

Rip

[@talkingonyoutube623]

The last four episodes of s9 is my favorite part of the season. Scars is in my top 20 episodes, and The calm before my third favorite episode. While I knew the pikes were coming, on first watch all the build up to that moment almost made me sick. I agree that it would had been so good to have more snow throught the show

[@WastelandBowman]

Season 9 is so good. Top 3 season for sure.

[@Fafshujnfas31]

W

[@Arkanyte]

I have to say, Season 9 Episode 15 "The Calm Before" is by far, my favourite episode of the TV series, along with S9 being my favourite season, watching it for the first was such a HOLY SHIT moment for me (especially since TWD wasn't as popular anymore so I never got spoiled for anything). The Border scene in it of it's self was so tragic, the juxtaposition of it all was so... heartbreaking, especially since this was the penultimate episode and not the finale, sine by this time the finale format had become of the show for. I could honestly go fully in depth in the entire episode as a whole, like how the opening scene perfectly set the tone. A couple, making their way in the apocalypse, thriving, surviving, their happy, and the happiness is now snuffed out with a eerie tension as Alpha kills them and proceeds to skin the woman's hair. Anyways this episode was fantastic 9.9 for me, the only nitpick I have is the Pike choices, I feel like some Highwaymen could've been spared and more Oceanside members would take their place, so the Highway men could in time in S10, come into their own as individual characters, but that's really my only nitpick the rest is just great.

[@DourFlower]

Love this season

[@succulentbeans8703]

Head first haha

[@vincenta8652]

I rather take Henry in over his head then a edge lord Carl who were also suppose to just think is so bad ass ? Henry is cool. He’s is polite , caring , he can fight , works hard to support his Friends and family and had a strong moral compass. He’s also a teen and all else that comes with it.

[@Bluerock121]

“Edge lord Carl” you’ve never even read the comics lmao the show is dogshit cope

[@bboyfan22]

Alpha always annoyed me. Both in the show and the comics. Yeah, she has a bunch of zombies... But like... Whatever. She's got no fire power, she's not particularly menacing or smart. Kind of a weak character

[@Bluerock121]

Daryl having a boss battle with beta just looks so fucking goofy. It works in the comics with negan because he’s also massive but there’s no way Beta couldn’t just break Daryl in half, he’s like 5 weight classes above him

[@TheDrexLord]

Why you finnish the retrospective on this you should also do them on the spinoffs, mainly deas city, daryl, and rick and michone, but I would hate ones on fear, world beyond, and tales

[@dunbass7149]

How would that work ?

[@TheDrexLord]

@@dunbass7149 the same way he does videos on other shows.

[@dunbass7149]

@@TheDrexLord oh I thought you meant as a retrospective

[@vincenta8652]

I won’t claim to know how one would adequately showcase the timelines without breaking down into micro rants, but as someone who has consumed both versions there wadnt really an explanation about the differences and more like you kinda focus on the comics and mention only the key focal points of season 9

[@bobguy5006]

first

[@FigureInMind]

For Rick Grimes

[@MrMNo13]

Sadly, this is where I started to fall out of love with the Walking Dead. By the end of Season 9, I started watching recorded episodes on Monday or Tuesday instead of every Sunday night.

[@rsdillbot3646]

I think the difference between Henry and Judith is their parents.