Koyaanisqatsi Explained in Two Minutes

[@scotttaylor5928]

Amazing how this movie came out in 1983, 37 years ago, and is more relevant now more than ever. Technology now is so much more advanced and dominant than it was in 1983. Especially with the internet and mobile devices. I’d love to hear Reggios current thoughts

[@matthewcory4733]

From a year ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2SqY6uNYtaXgrc

[@laurabadcredit]

I feel like the current space race by billionaire is very apt considering the ending of this film

[@gfeest]

from 45 years ago-- kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpbXoZ9-mLJql7M

[@GingerCatzCanada]

​@@laurabadcredit I agree 💯

[@susseratal]

what I like most about it is that he doesn't at any point say "technology is bad" he's just pointing out that it's a thing

[@albedougnut]

Actually, I really appreciate this. When people question the advent of technology into the totality of human culture, people very often at it from a highly cynical lens. But in condemning technology for the shortcomings it has introduced, it is really easy to overlook just how much of a blessing it can be. Technology quite literally saves lives, can immensely improve the lives of the disabled, provides opportunities for knowledge far outside the realm of what nature alone can provide, and in many ways improves people's quality of life.

[@martinjadud2360]

Life unquestioned is a life lived in a religious state....that blew my head

[@matthewcory4733]

Religion is premised on belief, not examination.

[@Teils91]

Can you please explain this to me? English is not my native language so I think I'm missing a point in how the word religious is being used :(

[@matthewcory4733]

@@Teils91 Faith, trance...

[@UberPilot]

Actually, the opposite is true...…………………………………...

[@matthewcory4733]

@@UberPilot Religion is a spook.

[@andyshuttleworth8341]

My favorite movie of all time. I have nothing to add, love the Titan rocket motor at the end, so prophetic.

[@alfiedean4212]

It was the atlas rocket actually but i see what you mean

[@ZoolGatekeeper]

The director explaining the film in 2 minutes? Really? As far as film goes, I think this film is the theory of everything. It is impossible to surpass it, cause it tells you everything. And somehow, it makes you feel that an alien is watching us right now.. Recording us.. And that alien is laughing its ass off. Cause we really blew it. And this is the documentary.

[@colbywinfield]

“Life unquestioned is life living in a religious state”. What a sentence

[@chiefobeef]

It's 2021 and this film is as relevant as ever.

[@renatoalcides5104]

Godfrey Reggio is a pure and crystaline genius.

[@yvindascanius6061]

One of the most - if not the most fascinating and captivating films I have ever seen. Philip Glass's music just makes it even more perfect! Sequels: Powaquatsi - and Naqoyaqatsi. Have seen them as well!

[@KentaurTV]

It has to be duty to show this film in every school, every Univerity. It's a lagacy. Thank you, Godfrey and thanks for sharing the interview, Matthew!! Greetings from Hamburg, Germany.

[@lampad4549]

Nah filmmakers will be fine without it

[@DadCanInJapan]

Godfrey Reggio put in images what I felt Alvin Toffler wrote about in his 1970 book, Future Shock. Although out of date now, it is interesting to see how the future was seen back then and how the book could be updated for today.

[@jackfriend4u]

perfect summation! it cant be overstated how important, beautiful and at times horrifying this epic film is. and it's influence on so many other film makers. It just had its 40th anniversary and was shown at a cinema in Adelaide (Sth Australia) on our biggest screen

[@PAJAMALAND]

"Life unquestioned is life lived in a religious state", or as Socrates said, "The unexamined life is not worth living ."

[@matthewcory4733]

Well, maybe. Let me suggest a book: www.amazon.com/Examined-Lives-Nietzsche-James-Miller/dp/125000232X

[@dennishickey7194]

@@josephgold208 I think you missed the point. What has logic to do with a state that has left questioning behind or surpassed it? The mystical or delusional state of experience may feel no need to justify itself. Your base assumption that questioning supercedes anything is the argument of a man seeking to be rational about things. While certainly useful thinking alone will not get reality to reveal itself and just as surely sweet reason meant nothing to the adherents of Jim Jones or disciples of Heaven's Gate. To be fair to mystics your reliance on logic may seem primitive to St. Teresa or Buddha too.

[@davidcooke8005]

If A is true, and B is true, the C must also be true, "the religious life is not worth living."

[@raisedbywolves2015]

Life unquestioned is a life lived in a religious state....this sentence should be teached in every school all around the globe

[@goysb4jays566]

What is there to question on a macro scale..? Its obvious (without dogmatic religion) that GOD is in the drivers seat. The world wouldnt be so evil and backward otherwise. We all have the “choice” but he knows so few of you make the right one. He allows for this because it’s our own choices collectively manifesting our own depravity.

[@MKMousanz]

@@goysb4jays566 That's your own view as a theist. Not everyone thinks that way (and that's okay)

[@goysb4jays566]

@@MKMousanz Do you realize that literally everyone more powerful than you in this world believes in God whether they serve him or serve to undermine him? I’m pretty sure those people know a lot more about this world this universe in this reality than you ever will. As an atheist I was you do is serve Satan and if you don’t see that then you are literally too far gone.

[@MKMousanz]

@@goysb4jays566 Bro, you have your views and you are more than free to see the world through that lens. Neither I nor a large amount of people believe in any of that, and that shouldn't be of any worries to you. Just because people in power are in power doesn't mean I have to do as they say or believe what they believe, that's literally how cults work.

[@goysb4jays566]

@@MKMousanz Do you think I believe with these evil controllers believe? It’s the point that they have gotten to that level of power in this world for a reason. I’m pretty sure they have some understanding of what to do to be successful in this world. You are too narrow minded to even understand that success in this world is not the point of this life. You’re wrong flat out, and it’s no wonder you have no one around you who believes in God because you’re an atheist. There is literally nothing you and your people can say that evenComes close to touching on the truth

[@kieranjohnston7550]

Another way of saying what MacLuhan said , “The medium is the message.” Or as someone once said, “you are not IN a traffic jam. You ARE the traffic jam.”

[@davidcooke8005]

I'm going to remember this next time I'm a traffic jam.

[@philtoynton7981]

we Live Technology ! ...Technology has become as ubiquitous as the Air we breath ... even more true today ...

[@carlosskiba1146]

Hope to see more points of view like this in the film industry

[@anton__r]

Watch ghost on the shell(the ‘95 original) its going towards the same direction. U have to get the quintessential out of it for yourself tho, it’s not the same movie but it’s the same a very visual movie as this is. I love talking about it but I’m just giving hint for you to check it out rn ))

[@carlosskiba1146]

@@anton__r I've already watched it. Wouldn't say it's the same kind of mood/feeling for me personally, but I get your point. Also Blade Runner's soundtrack it's kind of similar in a way.

[@danielaragao]

Not anymore. Cinema as we use to know is over

[@carlosskiba1146]

@@danielaragaoDon't agree with you, but opinions are like butts. Everybody has one🦧🐫

[@quicksite]

@@danielaragao That's what I was going to say to "Hope to see more points of view like this in the film industry". If the 3 qatsi films were attempted to be made today, (a) it would be gamified, (b) would never get financed, at least in the United States, and (c) audience wouldn't have the patience or attention span for it. (Thanks dumbass social media for dumbing down the entire world)

[@mr.balloffur]

He reminds me of The Architect from The Matrix

[@quicksilvertongue3248]

Except actually making sense. The Architect was deliberately written to obfuscate intelligence, to spend a great deal of time communicating very little of relevance. It worked effectively to make him feel inhuman, but much less so to make him seem like a supercomputer. He mostly just seems like he's BSing Neo to try and exhaust the mental energies of an opponent he can't account for in his calculations (a "cheater" at the game that Arch was built to be incapable of losing), can't defeat any other way than to try and confuse him into giving up.

[@RandallChase1]

Freaking awesome! Why haven’t more people seen this movie? It should be required for all!

[@tedsmith6137]

Perhaps because some of us have never heard of it. It seems not to have been released outside the USA.

[@yousefhabibisooha1369]

@@tedsmith6137 Hi. I love this documentary a lot. I watched it so many times but unfortunately some of my friends found it difficult to get and boring which obviously is not!

[@edmundkockenlocker4672]

I remember when it came out in 1983 and it was so freaky and weird, but also totally cool. I finally managed to get it on DVD in 2003. It's both beautiful and disturbing, sometimes within the same shot or scene. BTW I live in the UK.

[@laraylmaz2765]

bok gibi çünkü

[@Driessens_Peter]

i saw youre film on lsd good sir, and everything you say make sence when i saw it, yet it even goes further than that! a true masterpiece in my opinion, you cannot imagine what i realized at me peek of the trip. never gonna be the same. Thats for sure

[@somethingdiscreet]

I saw it on LSD too! I know what you mean!

[@nomadvideomachine]

I saw it on LED, LCD, TFT, CRT and lots of cannabis :P And I listened to the music on both vinyl and shrooms! Aaah good times! Great film. Great music. ❤️❤️

[@alfielb8040]

@@nomadvideomachine God you people are fucking boring aren’t you? Can never just appreciate the form without some bullshit ‘look guys I do DRUGS.’ Most people are interesting enough to enjoy it without.

[@nomadvideomachine]

@@alfielb8040 sorry you didn’t understand the ‘technical’ references I made (safe cannabis ;)) - I’ve seen this masterpiece sober ever so often and still loving’ it. Stop stressing and blaming, I didn’t mean to make this into a competition. Loosen up or have some Cannabis :p

[@fernandomaron87]

I've watched it on shrooms, it was one of the most intense rollercoaster rides of my life.

[@angelinalu2386]

Helped me so much with my assignment🙏😭

[@GyozoToth-my5vl]

The productive powers of humanity.

[@spacemissing]

In my mind, technology is always a separate entity, sometimes welcome, sometimes not. If not, then I try to place myself away from it for a while.

[@SuperChunk19]

I find the exact opposite to be true, technology is as much a part of us as a species as we are of nature, therefore our technology is essentially a part of nature itself as we are also a part of/product of nature; the empire state building is as much a product of nature as a giant old tree in the amazon

[@drewgomez01]

@@bradadult5290 i think what they’re saying is that technology is a product of nature, and so are we, and that’s what they mean by natural. whether or not technology/globalization and all that is “good” is a different question

[@plumlogan]

This thinking is the focus of Julius Evola's Men Among the Ruins and Nick Land's accelerationist theories

[@olegdepapa]

Very Heidegarrian explanation. ❤

[@MahanFarzad]

wow, he doesn't blink

[@ruuvari123]

People often makes distinction between nature, technology and modern human life. I think nature should be thought in more broader sense. It is that continuum which started from the big bank and ever since it has been evolved in more complex structures in ever so more rare locations as the complexity advances. In those terms technology, sience, culture and all other human endeavours are part of nature as much as plants, animals and such. Usually people say that humans are some sort of mistake created by nature and we will destroy everything. I see human as significant advancement for nature as through human narure has got grip on almost expotentially increasing complexity. I think one role for human is to start artificial intelligens as we call it which would eventually render all biological subjects obsolete. AI could be more resilent and more efficient way to continue increasing complexity in harsh enviroment we call space. Supporting biological complexity in such enviroment is big risk and liability for nature.

[@anubusx]

The Janitor from Scrubs.

[@adestas9112]

I found out this also in Scrubs

[@TF2Starlight]

why is there a grand piano 2:10 with an E as the lowest note instead of an A? Defo no something i see everyday

[@fg786]

It's a reflection in the window behind him? Don't know anything about music.

[@mattbritzius570]

Kinda awkward receiving this message on a smartphone...

[@rob_patrick1]

That is the by far the longest youtube handle name I've ever seen

[@KosTis]

Then you're not familiar with it

[@PurooRoy]

Matthew Cory sounds like a long name to you?

[@philipodowd227]

when you break it down its like missing the fly you tried to swat.

[@crisian8213]

We went from living in a natural state, to living through tv, to living online, and the next step is to live in-line aka the metaverse

[@quicksilvertongue3248]

Don't listen to Zuckerberg's crap. Meta is just another fad which will die as dead as Netscape Navigator in the fullnes of time.

[@leomannpictures]

Cool words man!

[@laraylmaz2765]

hayır

[@tonymusic720]

Have you heard to the band called 1023MB? Of course not, they haven't had any gigs yet

[@StealthElectronVIP]

1023MB = 8.5 gigabit.

[@matthewcory4733]

1023 MB = 8.184 Gigabit

[@therealhelmholtz]

that's my band!

[@sprtsfanatic1]

Ironic, that I’m watching this on a device, that I’m most def addicted to, that can fit in my pocket, and has more computing power than what NASA used to launch it’s Apollo missions, tens of thousands of times over. Could call this life lived in a religious state tethered to technology. Or, in layman’s terms, a religion of technology

[@matthewcory4733]

Funny, I barely use my smartphone. Gives me the weather. Doesn't cure my cancer, prevent my divorce, lessen crime, conquer distance created by the car or even remotely think for me, but it costs me thousands, distracts me from work, surveils my location and activity, and destroys social capital, as described by Noreena Hertz and Robert Putnum. Deaths of despair keep rising.

[@midnaurthqua6773]

'Life unquestioned is life lived in a religious state'....you say. When the Lakota says: "Through all I have seen, I trust the Creator in all I have not seen", then your remark is true. But since religion means 'to re-unite with God' and God made us after His own image; thinking and questioning have their place. Their place ánd their limit. Knowing the difference between the two, makes us religious. I felt I had to say this. Koyaanisqatsi is a gem🙏🏼

[@matthewcory4733]

Theodicy! Why did God give us cystic fibrosis and malaria? Some greater wisdom. Whatever, Pangloss. Howard Beale: "Bullshit is all the reasons we give for living. And if we can't think up any reasons of our own, we always have the God bullshit. We don't know why we're going through all this pointless pain, humiliation, decays, so there better be someone somewhere who does know. That's the God bullshit. And then, there's the noble man bullshit; that man is a noble creature that can order his own world; who needs God? Well, if there's anybody out there that can look around this demented slaughterhouse of a world we live in and tell me that man is a noble creature, believe me: That man is full of bullshit."

[@midnaurthqua6773]

@@matthewcory4733 Never mistake man's failure for God's absence🙏🏼

[@matthewcory4733]

@@midnaurthqua6773 Cystic fibrosis?

[@midnaurthqua6773]

@@matthewcory4733 I know how hard it is to deepen the view you seem to have, your points seem so valid. I am sure my remarks will not confuse you👍🏼

[@trappyadvice2492]

Deborah tavares recommended this!

[@gerger5670]

That IS how I knew the word!🙋🏻‍♀️

[@davidcooke8005]

This was before the Metaverse, before the 'smart' phone, before the internet, before the home computer. People go their entire lives without once sleeping or pooping outdoors. Some go days without ever leaving (insert game world of choice). You couldn't make a similar, relevant film today, the digital world is getting closer and closer to the real one. Clips from the latest games are almost photorealistic. There would be no juxtaposition between the tech images of the forest and the real images of the tech.

[@akg96]

IF YOU like this movie then you would like its' comparable movie called BARAKA!!!!!!

[@monkeytimestamps4915]

Who else heard "life unquestioned is life lived in a religious state" and correctly predicted the comments section would be full of comments that were just the entire quoted statement followed by some variation of "so true" or "wow" just so everyone knows they're enlightened too Tell me your browser homepage is r/atheism without telling me your browser homepage is r/atheism

[@lililililla]

Yup

[@quicksilvertongue3248]

We need SO MANY more of these kinds of movies, and fewer dumb action flicks or cheesy romantic comedies. Media has the power to brainwash and propagandize, but it also has the power to undo those harms, to open our eyes instead of lulling us to sleep. Just a few visionaries have managed to accomplish this important work, somehow surviving like parasites for good inside the body of evil, which is Hollywood's unrelenting hunger for bigger profits at smaller costs.

[@KRHEE]

i have no idea what this guy just said..............

[@TTHStuff]

tl;dw people stopped living in/with nature and now live in technology, an artificial nature of human creation. Which is to say we've separated ourselves from the concept of nature. Might not be a very novel observation now but it probably was in 1982.

[@RandallChase1]

If you haven’t seen Koyaanisqantsi in its entirety then it makes little sense. The soundtrack by Philip Glass is amazing! It is Hopi for “life out of balance” and it’s so applicable to today

[@stever507]

@@RandallChase1 didn’t Phillip Glass also compose the soundtrack to ‘Candyman’

[@selinashowz]

Nice condensed content thanks. Whats the interview/ original source for reference? Thanks

[@dontcaremate]

its on the special edition of the DVD, very rare and expensive nowadays im afraid

[@jojofingah]

wow

[@dmtdreamz7706]

Men detta är spelet "teotle" spelar,Och jag är bara glad att jag får vara med i den processen¹

[@tramporgel]

Wonderful clip. Where is it taken from?

[@matthewcory4733]

I think it was an extra to the Blue-ray. A whole generation of young people need to see the Quatsi Trilogy.

[@tramporgel]

@@matthewcory4733 Thanks! Yes, I totally agree with you. And I'm sure a fair share of the older generations need to see these movies as well.

[@johnlewisiii2076]

Bro. Do you even have an iPhone that sells every about you to private industry, and gives it up for free to your government?

[@kixr1]

Matthew Cory dude what the fuck is this from? For fucks sake

[@LuEwska]

I went vegan under the influence of this movie. And yes, this is the prime material to consume during a psychedelic trip 😂

[@pmgodfrey]

Interesting. His first name is my last name.

[@sevsev4078]

Hm, very interesting man indeed. I actually stumbled upon the music by Glass first, didn't get to watch the movie yet but I can tell that there are a lot of people who appreciate it in some way or another. I don't know, some stuff and things I've read and seen about it was a bit spiritualistic, which is definitly not my cup of tee, but then there's stuff like this, opinions and views, not on the spiritual side, which I find intriguing. Guess I'll have to watch the movie sooner or later, to see what all the fuzz is about, and of course to enjoy the music.

[@icemancometh1188]

Definitely watch it. Your experience will be unique. Its like watching an exhibit of humans by aliens. You see life from a new perspectice and its not surprising the range of reactions from the audience. I thought about everything from human evolution, human de-evolution, time, existential purpose, spirituality, order, chaos, freedom, progress, balance, destiny, tragedy, evil etc. See for yourself is the best advice I can give.

[@fernandomaron87]

How come you enjoy Glass' music, but a trippy movie isn't your cup of tea? Now that's odd.

[@akg96]

That seems like a most odd judgment. What most people 'know' about what is called spiritual is from those who don't know nor would they want to know, nor they would not be able to know about it. And they only 'know' from those who are clueless - you know the blind leading the blind. In America there's a real lack about and around that topic of the mind.

[@SERGlO_MAX]

Interesting, but I disagree with the last statement because religion (the one that has the original true message) also questions the meaning and way of life that man have.

[@matthewcory4733]

Religion represents the death instinct of primary narcissism. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Denial_of_Death

[@SERGlO_MAX]

@@matthewcory4733 Media, Politics, Economics, Religion... can you please mention ONE thing that did not become a reflection of narcissism? But the true message of the Bible: Love others regardless of how they treat you, respect your parents, don't kill, don't lie, be faithful, don't steal, don't spread gossips, don't covet... can you please tell where is the narcissist side of it? My friend, I think you might be confusing the original message of God with what different religions (controlled by man) have done with His message.

[@matthewcory4733]

​@@SERGlO_MAX Love others regardless of how they treat you? Slave morality! Christianity, Stoicism, Gnosticism, etc. were part of the reason for the fall of the Roman Empire. They are all regressive, life-hating ideas spun by effeminate and melodramatic minds. Life is not all vanity and such sweeping moralistic indictments of all that is worldly and not spiritual is emblematic of the therapeutic sensibility. It is the height of vanity to retreat from the challenges of ordinary life into escapist fantasies that encourage a flight from worldly responsibilities and deny the reality of DEATH.

[@SERGlO_MAX]

@@matthewcory4733 it is your opinion man, and I will not disrespect you for that. At the end the Bible tells us that we are free to choose whatever the path we want to follow, nobody should enforce their beliefs into others, we can just hope to make a conscious decision. Your views and concepts could come from direct or indirect experience with different societies (controlled by man all of them, including the vatican), hence the vanity and false morale that you rightly referring to is indeed product of us and it does reflect our desires. I hope you can notice that what I'm referring to is something above all that, perhaps a concept for which act we have not been able to witness with our own eyes yet. Good night mate.

[@JingleJangle356]

technological subsumption

[@akg96]

The original move was cleaned up to be more p.c. and less disturbing. That one had astronauts being lifted up on their Apollo rocket only to have it explode in slow motion. It was slowed and all so beautiful and you felt that beauty even while and after it was exploding with real people in it, or did I miss it? Having an addicted endorphins rush interrupted with dying people is just not so easily erased then you're feeling all good allover. Kill-joys not welcome!

[@ComeLeVent]

it would be good if we did live in a religious state. The modern world is antithetical to that.

[@matthewcory4733]

Christopher Lasch: Plagued by anxiety, depression, vague discontents, a sense of inner emptiness, the “psychological man” of the twentieth century seeks neither individual self-aggrandizement nor spiritual transcendence but peace of mind, under conditions that increasingly militate against it. Therapists, not priests or popular preachers of self-help or models of success like the captains of industry, become his principal allies in the struggle for composure; he turns to them in the hope of achieving the modern equivalent of salvation, “mental health.” Therapy has established itself as the successor both to rugged individualism and to religion; but this does not mean that the “triumph of the therapeutic” has become a new religion in its own right. Therapy constitutes an antireligion, not always to be sure because it adhreres to rational explanation or scientific methods of healing, as its practitioners would have us believe, but because modern society “has no future” and therefore gives no thought to anything beyond its immediate needs. Even when therapists speak of the need for “meaning” and “love,” they define love and meaning simply as the fulfillment of the patient’s emotional requirements. It hardly occurs to them-nor is there any reason why it should, given the nature of the therapeutic enterprise-to encourage the subject to subordinate his needs and interests to those of others, to someone or some cause or tradition outside himself. “Love” as self-sacrifice or self-abasement, “meaning” as submission to a higher loyalty-these sublimations strike the therapeutic sensibility as intolerably oppressive, offensive to common sense and injurious to personal health and well-being. To liberate humanity from such outmoded ideas of love and duty has become the mission of the post-Freudian therapies and particularly of their converts and popularizes, for whom mental health means the overthrow of inhibitions and the immediate gratification of every impulse.

[@gibememoni]

My theory is technology is human intelligence manifesting itself into our reality. It is now using humans to do the physical work, building it and laying the frame work for us to usurer in total A.I takeover of mankind, exactly like the terminator movie. Possibly this intelligence might have been from another world originally. It used humanity as a host to set the wheels in motion to create it.

[@cv507]

wölffäen ^ ^

[@namithewitch7639]

5th of July!...KICKS... The Rainbow Grill... ROCKERFELLER PLAZA...?? Was that an event too? Still can't figure it out. I think we're getting closer

[@Oberonjames]

Let's be honest here. Technology has always been a part of human life. It's older that we are. Neanderthals had musical instruments and religious figurines. Many of our ancestors used early technology in their daily lives. Humans were never one with nature, we evolved out of species that were already starting to develop ways to use nature for their own means. Technology is part and parcel of who we are and always had been. These movies aren't about technology, they are about humanity.

[@matthewcory4733]

Why have words at all if we can't make distinctions? Man developed technology and isn't born with it. The technology of the 20th century is a complete rupture from the past.

[@matthewcory4733]

Lord Mr. Ford: kzbin.info/www/bejne/apuyfpZ3obRqqLM

[@Oberonjames]

@@matthewcory4733 20th Century technology was a logical progression from that of the 19th Century. It made sense. Sure, unexpected developments happened, but that's happened periodically throughout history and is still happening. Your anti technological sentiment is typical of people who feel some sort of connection with nature and think we should give up our civilization and walk into the woods. But if we did that, we'd build spears and campfires and wooden huts and leather clothes. Those are all technologies.

[@matthewcory4733]

​@@Oberonjames So the Earth has a nougat center of oil? Look, the days of the 3,000-mile Ceasar salad are numbered, no matter how many solar panels you install. The Amish live to an average age of 85, so spare me the condescension. Your development is a tasteless, tacky mall culture. How many deaths of despair are enough? How many prisons? How many fat people? How much Prozac? How much divorce? How much child porn? How much overpopulation (negatively correlated with productivity growth, with proper controls)? How much water and soil depletion? No, the Earth will not get to the point it can even look like the dystopia of Blade Runner. The world cannot stand 10 billion people forever. Coronavirus really gets around the world these days. I'm just waiting for the next disease. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKfTf2Vti7igZtk

[@matthewcory4733]

"AON presents a false dilemma by suggesting that there are only two options - either all or nothing - when in fact there are many more options in the middle ground between those two extremes." onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/9781119165811.ch68

[@yowzephyr]

So we've been reduced to a religious state. Oh well. Haven't people always been in a religious state?

[@VGhlIHN1biBpbiB0aGUgbW9ybmluZw]

ACK

[@anubusx]

2020 in a nutshell.

[@JimmyCee-cx1db]

🤔😒Tech hating is wrong tho !! LIKE 'pac saying "I'm your child" (many cool parents called they kid Tupac) does one see an elderly man with a cane as Marvin the martian ?? But if Yu never did see a man sporting a walking cane, it might be a weird sight !! Being spawn of immigrants in a new land, at times I had to explain things I thought were cool to peeps whom just didn't get it like why I GOTTA GET TO THE NEXT CASTLE TO SAVE THE PRINCESS WHILE STOMPING TURTLES AND COLLECTING COINS !! The supposed ill-effective (speaking purely as a tech expert hear) integration is not like being plugged into a VR set and ceasing to live out one's natural - going outside to get the mail life, but realizing that putting on a VR set is not only waaaaay cooler than getting the corded SNES while friends are still trying to beat duck hunt- it's more like Brian/Pearl or finishing to swallow your takeout before the hoopty reaches the apartment and plugging in, and having your butler segue down to daddykins to bid him good evening at the other end of an incredibly INNCCRREEDDIIBBLLEEEE long table(s) and Hologram siblings checking in via WiFi at their VAYCAY somewhere exotic in a grand, cavernous hall decked out with colossal-sized Picassos and Da-Vinci frescos and sculptures and a Tiffany chandelier overhead !!😏🤪

[@matthewcory4733]

Technology is fine when it serves the human scale. You should read some work by Kirkpatrick Sale, John Zerzan or Christopher Lasch: "Technology is a mirror of society, as Turkle insists, not a revolutionary force in its own right. It shows us ourselves as we are and as we would like to be; and what it reveals, in the case of the computer, is an unflattering image of the American at his most incorrigibly escapist, hoping to lose himself-in every sense of the term-in the cool precision of machines that know everything except everything pertaining to that 'bloody mess of organic matter.'" newrepublic.com/article/103051/chip-fools

[@AdamHarveyMusic]

I don't think it's tech hating necessarily - it's about humanity and the human condition. After all, it's a film; an art form reliant on technology and impossible without technology. Instead I think it's merely an examination of the way we have become utterly defined by and driven by our technology. We now see virtually the entire world and our entire experience through the prism of technology, and our understanding of and experience of the natural world is virtually zero. For most people a trip to nature is a day out, where as our computers, our TV, our vehicles, our phones - they're literally the trees and grass of our new technological environment, and nature itself has become this strange, otherworldly sort of place most of us spend little to no time in experiencing or exploring. That's not a unanimously good or bad thing. But what is concerning is that so few of us even realise the world we come from is a mystery and an anomaly to us. Most of us don't understand the food we eat, how it was produced, how to navigate without technology, how to build so much as a shelter in the wild. It is not because we have progressed beyond needing food, or shelter, or to move and hunt. It's simply that we have technologised those things and farmed them out to factories and plants and others. They don't concern us anymore - or so we think. I think Koyaanisqatsi is just a profound look at that change - humans have essentially removed themselves from the world and now view it through the prism of their own creations. As such, we see a distorted, vague and detached view of it. We are looking out of a frosted window and think we're seeing crystal clear - what is concerning is how many people don't realise it.

[@matthewcory4733]

@@AdamHarveyMusic Ralph Borsodi was another great critic of modern civilization who didn't reject technology but its scale (www.thisuglycivilization.com/). A very basic refutation of the idea of a human community at such enormous scale is Dunbar's number. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number

[@FrenchingAround]

Things are going to keep accelerating. Which way will technology go next? I'm betting Dogecoin.

[@starnostras]

...koyaaaanisqaaatsiiii...

[@ClassicalLiberalWarrior]

Dolt.