Kpop hard truths you’re STILL too afraid to admit

Happy 2023 everyone!
For my first video of the year i decided to share with you some truths that kpop stans are still too afraid to admit.
What do you think? Did you admit these things to yourself or are you in denial? Let me know in the comments...
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Intro song: IVE - Eleven (instrumental)
Outro song: IVE - My satisfaction (instrumental)
Timestamps:
0:00 intro
0:44 1
1:46 2
2:30 3
3:38 4
4:56 5
6:08 6
7:29 7
8:07 8
8:57 9
10:06 outro

[@AnzzCheatedOnMarkWithHaechan]

The first truth ohmygaud!!! That's so true.. I really hate it when they force grown idols to do aegyu just for their satisfaction.. Like imagine people treating you like a kid even if you're adult

[@AnzzCheatedOnMarkWithHaechan]

I also have to mention it's so cruel how people treat Yuna.. Like let her live her youth

[@Everythingz127]

And we should forget that not all underage people love doing that thing

[@ArielthelittleFISH]

@@Everythingz127 yes and don't bash idols who do it

[@MikaMoonlight]

I'm 27 years old and I have a VERY youthful face. I'm also a cosplayer and when I cosplay I look even younger. I know that, I understand it but PLEASE the amount of people that go: you're so cuuuute! Aww! Look at you! You did that all on your own? - And the WORST one: This one time I got payed to attend a con located quite far from my home, it implied a 2 hour trip by car, and someone DMed me on instagram like: Are you going to that long, dangerous trip on your own? :( DUDE I'M 27. And also, NO, I wasn't going alone but is literally not your bussiness because I'm grown ass adult. So yeah, it is VERY frustrating.

[@bloom6250]

Yes most of the time the aegyo is forced and it’s cringey 😬

[@rayelniyo3347]

The same people who say the industry is hard are the ones making it harder

[@soft4taeng]

Preach 🙌

[@kpop.is.a.revolution]

As a person, who has never have a bias in Blackpink, because I cant pick one and I love them all, I can say that I love them equally. I dont say it, because I wanna feel like a better stan, is just true. I support the entire group, and all their solo activities equally. So, from a personal expirience, its possible to stan everyone equally :) And its not about who is a better fan :)

[@t4Ev04]

Oooohhh FINALLY SOMEONE I CAN RELATE TO

[@MishiawooLee9999]

I agree with you, I don't care about who's better for a title. I enjoy the group, their music, and their solo projects.

[@creativegemschildrensstori4003]

Exactly! 🥹 And it is ok if one or more of them catches your attention a bit more during one era, and during another era, it might be one of the other members..

[@baebaeluvsu]

It's same for me but with skz I just can't choose a bias and I love all of them and I support all their solo/subunit activities equally so yeah it's possible to love all the members equally

[@vicm832]

number 9 is so true,,,, one day someone woke up, opened twitter and wrote “aespa has no stage presence” and somehow the whole kpop community believed it?????? i don’t think they’re stage presence masters but they aren’t anywhere near to the nightmare people on the internet make it out to be. idk how, but those opinions got so popular that now people don’t even bother to check before saying aespa have terrible stage presence

[@soft4taeng]

What’s worse is that even if aespa were to drastically improve, most people will still think of them as “the group with poor stage presence”, because once people start believing something, they will keep on holding onto those beliefs

[@vicm832]

@@soft4taeng I KNOOOW if i were an aespa member i wouldn’t even bother lol

[@reyanime]

Or that they can't sing live.

[@rowanjoy419]

I personally thought that they didn't have stage presence even before that, and many people that I follow too, so when this opinion got popular, I was like "yeah, anyways" because I was just in my own businesses and then some people start making videos at how this whole thing was getting too far, and I was like "oh, ok" like for real some fans are crazy.

[@Wrinkled_stars]

Well they’re bad idk what to tell you💀

[@Yoest.1]

A lot of kpop stans don’t think for themselves they just have a sheep mentality , they call some idols homophobic, racist, fatphobic and pick me without even knowing the full story , some fans just prefer to spread hate and misinformation just for the fun of it and because others are doing it

[@2FullMoons]

Literally THIS, it’s sad and pathetic

[@Wrinkled_stars]

That depends this mentality is pretty bs

[@valeriermcf6556]

Yes, I don't get it when some locals says that K-pop fans are standing on some social issue topic when most of them just follow what the mainstream media say.

[@newjeansfan238]

Hanni represents the Iphone who has to answer kpop fans'message, answer to all the notification and struggle to play songs, talk and sings for fans. Hyein are seen as an Princess diva, kpop idols thinks Haerin looks like a cat and because people think that, she become one, Minji is the doctor who has the role to comfort people

[@newjeansfan238]

@salty.artist 🤡 Danielle try to wake up the others members with their amnesia, She said we filmed a mv, she pointed out with her finger the director and see him, they think she is a weird person until she said wake-up we are Newjeans! Rewind to Attention in the part where they said "we're looking for Attention" in chorus but Who are really seeking for Attention? Fans of kpop. We filmed all the times kpop idols in concert, in aeroport, etc, we send message and notifications to our favorite idols, girlsband/boysbands to look for an attention and an answer of our message

[@newjeansfan238]

@salty.artist 🤡 Danielle try to wake up the others members with their amnesia, She said we filmed a mv, she pointed out with her finger the director and see him, they think she is a weird person until she said wake-up we are Newjeans! Rewind to Attention in the part where they said "we're looking for Attention" in chorus but Who are really seeking for Attention? Fans of kpop. We filmed all the times kpop idols in concert, in aeroport, etc, we send message and notifications to our favorite idols, girlsband/boysbands to look for an attention and an answer of our message

[@sofypi7493]

tring to make something deep out of mentally ill people exploitation? sound like a kpop stan

[@Exo-lCaratDeobiDiveFearnotMy]

Min heejin is gaslighting all the new jeans fans to divert from the fact that she is not someone who should be around minors. I am genuinely scared for the girls. Her statement to the questionable lyrics of cookie was the prime example of it. The girls are talented they trained a lot for their debut i am not attacking them. I just find it frustrating how everyone moved on so quickly from a very serious issue that could potentially damage the girls as a human.

[@soft4taeng]

Yes, she really did try to gaslight everyone, she didn't take any responsibility for cookie's lyrics and she just chose to blame it all on people and their "dirty minds"

[@Exo-lCaratDeobiDiveFearnotMy]

@@soft4taeng thank you so much.

[@thoraschramm8133]

I honestly didn’t see OMG as a “quirky psych ward aesthetic” because it was telling a story of idol culture and using the psych ward to further showcase that. Obv everyone will have their own opinion but the music video was showing a very serious topic/story and I don’t see how exactly it’ll be offensive. The ending of the music video was weird I agree but I always thought the dude in the corner represented the fans😭 because he was the bear shown in one of the girls Snow White scenes (aka the prince that’s supposed to wake her up with a true loves kiss). He was shown going from being the bear plush to being, well, the dude. I feel like the ending was more of a clap back to netizens that hate taboo music videos rather than “y’all should be in a mental asylum” kinda thing

[@thoraschramm8133]

And with “representing the fans” I don’t mean the ones showing critique, I mean the ones who have parasocial relationships with the girls as that’s how I saw the main story being

[@pnklfeflx7332]

I honestly had no idea what was going on in the video until I went into the comments.

[@M5FTZ]

@@pnklfeflx7332 just know that the mv is about the mental health of KPOP IDOLS. People may not relate as they aren’t Kpop idols. The psychiatric ward is supposed to show how in this industry idols may go crazy due to their declining mental health.

[@pnklfeflx7332]

@@M5FTZ oh okay thanks

[@NickaLah]

As someone that was made to feel highly uncomfortable with the song Cookie, and did not care for the dismissive/condescending response from MHJ over it, I still thought I'd give their comeback a chance. But the end of OMG felt like a slap to the face as someone that gave MHJ the benefit of the doubt enough to try to give her another chance. All she did was alienate those of us that have been genuinely concerned about the girls, and show that she's a vindictive person even over legitimately fair criticism. I've been a kpop fan since 2008, so I got into it long before cancel culture got particularly unhinged. I've never seen a CEO act in such a way to completely turn me off of giving a group I like my support... and I made it through some dark times with our fave idols dealing with slave contracts and suicide. MHJ needs to check her ego before she loses more people that wanted to give New Jeans their support, because I have nothing against the girls. I just hope they don't share MHJ's horrible attitude.

[@-r-4134]

OMG MV is a lighthearted portrayal of something serious. I don’t think that’s tone deaf on part of the creative team because you can acknowledge the seriousness and STILL showcase said serious topic in a lighthearted way. That’s fair. That’s what art and creativity is. I interpreted the MV as the sixth girl imagining newjeans due to loneliness, depression etc. And the members themselves seemed to be suffering from expectations and pressure of being idols. So I think the content was fairly deep. But I understand why they chose to do it in a lighthearted way. From a brand point of view it doesn’t make sense for them to make it all dark, when they already did in ditto anyways. And then the song is playful so the MV of course will match that. I personally thought what they did was very creative and not lazy or them abusing the topic.

[@violetvictoria7248]

This channel obviously has a bias and K-pop group that she clearly shades on the low. So she will of course not even put a second thought to what she said. I don't know if she was trying to put that strong statement to support her title " the hard truths" and use them to help her put the viewers on edge. They were in fact dark, they were having fun because they are friends who know each other and trying to help each other or be there for each other whenever they would go crazy. The guy in the video and creepy drawings coming back to life and her talking to a wall while the other thinks she is a doctor were filmed in a soft fun way but imagine if they didn't and all the pretty colors get dropped? A group of kids making that song and filming it that way will still get them hate. Because you can never speak for everyone and especially when you're talking about kpop struggle that is different from a real psychotic mentality. The dude at the end was throwing shade about a song they work hard on only to find out people seeing sexually of it which was valid.

[@cookiemonster8184]

@@violetvictoria7248Genuine question: do you expect channels like this to not have bias….? Every single person on this planet is biased in some way so what’s the point of bringing that up?

[@Aprettyfairy354]

Yeah, and a lot of people were uncomfortable with the scenes of them dancing in the ward and wearing the patient gowns. I can totally see how people could be very uncomfortable with that and they have their right to be, but personally I interpreted those scenes as idols suffering from mental illnesses but still have to keep the show going on. Like when they were wearing those colorful outfits but the scene behind them is very grim, kinda like “the show must go one” type of feeling... Basically even when idols are in a dark place and suffering from metal illnesses, they still have to put on their flashy outfits, smile and dance because the show must go on.

[@OK-mv4ih]

When YOASOBI makes a dark/depressing song with a fun catchy beat and colourful MV, fans praised them for it for its unique style and artistic approach to discussing mental illness. I was really surprised to see NewJeans go for that similar route and really don't get why people have such an issue for a song to have a darker subtext if it's fits their concept and storyline, especially when OMG was set up by the way more unsettling Ditto a month ago

[@mikumabi]

Yes, I love this comment. It's the perfect analysis.

[@Ososkkisksksmssmsmssmssms]

People hate Wonyoung and for what?? I am a proud Wonyoung defender and Yuna one and will always defend them from being called “pick me girls”

[@tolanisimpson5360]

Same, people need to LEAVE THEM THE HELL ALONE!!!!

[@yeon_berry22]

exactly like people are always trying to find stuff to be mad at them for and it's so unnecessary

[@lovesum1n]

These kinds of people are THE most annoying people, I swear to god! Like, she just breathes and they rant on about her. I just want them to stfu💀💀

[@tolanisimpson5360]

@@lovesum1n On literal God

[@Ri57490]

The way Wonyoung acts makes me cringe. So I avoid her videos. I don't get people who torture themselves by watching her videos if they don't like her. The fans should watch her and the people who dislike her should avoid her videos. But people love to waste their time hate watching an idol that they dislike.

[@newjeansfan238]

OMG's mv is a point of view of kpop idols who are seen as objects, not a person in the eyes of kpop fans, talks about the pressure to be a kpop idols and are seen as crazy if idols kpop has the guts to say the truth, kpop fans pressured them to make excuse for nothing it's that the real meaning of OMG

[@genieispunk]

some people really say: "oh minors should be protected" also these people: *says horrible things about garam even d3*ath threats* also I can never understand the thinking having a bias=hating the other members like????

[@cherryxgh0st]

personally, i've struggled with mental health issues my entire life, and have even been hospitalized for it before (i'm doing a lot better now though). i thought the way the OMG m/v portrayed mental health and institutions was very insensitive and harmful to those who genuinely struggle with mental health. i could go into detail about how wrong it is, but that's not going to change anything, the damage is already done. what really bothers me is that min heejin (nwjns' creative director) has worked with idols who've taken their lives due to mental health struggles, but she still used mental illness and being in a mental institution as a concept knowing full well how serious of an issue it really is.

[@immealldayeveryday9425]

Their whole point was that idols deal with mental illness, this was not mocking mental illness at all, seriously watch the MV a couple times to truly understand it, it was basically one giant metaphor, Hanni as an I phone represents people always expect them to kno and do exactly everything they want, one of them was in a fairly another metaphor for those that think that idol life is a perfect fairytale tale when it’s not it’s full of up and downs and challenges, daniell was smiling the whole time because that’s what people expect of idols to be jolly 24/7 and that’s just not the case yet she was trying to remind them that they are new jeans, these are some of the metaphors in the MV the last part was directed directly towards the haters, those keyboard trolls that only hide behind their computer and throw hate, they to need help cause they throw hate for literally no reason, this MV is very deep and you should not just make assumptions without taking a proper look at the message behind it, just like how others have mental issues So do many idols, it constant pressure, but they are new jeans and they don’t want to lose what makes them new jeans

[@adot...]

@@immealldayeveryday9425 that makes sense, but the set, the concept is made and produced by Min Heejin. The last scene was not hate towards the girls, it was hate to the producer. Min Heejin was trying to gaslight the people that were trying to defend minors due to her controversy with Cookie. Yes, I understand that idols may have mental illnesses and the MV does make sense, but they could've chosen a less triggering set... That's all we're trying to say... There wasn't much thought and many have mistaken the pysch ward as a "concept" and we all know mental illness is not a "concept", it's real life. We're not hating on the girls, we're just disappointed that Min Heejin is trying to protect herself by using the girls as a shield and be more controversial by being a stubborn artist and not taking responsibility for her actions not just in NewJeans but previously as well (in SM). (This is just my opinion tho, it's okay if you disagree, I'm just giving you my perspective)

[@immealldayeveryday9425]

@@adot... no it’s still towards them, I saw many people with my own eyes say they won’t Stan them cause of cookie, if they were blaming min heejin that would have not been said, again it’s also about the assumptions people make, many of the members are fluent in English and they did not find anything wrong, why cause their was nothing wrong the song was meant to be in Korean and the Korean lyrics where quite child like as was said by Korean netizen themselves but of course people love to hop on the hate train I have seen it time and time again, everything they are trying to say is 100 percent true and we must stop thinking the idols are perfect they are not and neither are we, we all make mistakes, we all have our ups and downs and we learn from our experiences and we should all understand that, I get ur perspective but the director him self has talk about what is behind the meaning of this MV, the hint are there if you actually watch this MV multiple times and start catching all the details you will see how it all comes together and how ditto and this MV connect

[@adot...]

@@immealldayeveryday9425 the problem is that Min Heejin hasn't tooken any responsibility for her actions, if she just apologized, everyone would have probably forgot it... Also, K-pop idols don't really have a say in lyrics, so yes, the girls could be forced into singing cookie. I'm NOT hating on the girls! I am worried for their safety! I'm hating on Min Heejin! She's a clear pedophile! But obviously there are connections between Ditto and OMG. Ik there are. However, the last scene was just to gaslight people trying to protect minors from weirdos on the internet because they exist. It didn't have to be added in. Really a pysch ward? Couldn't the producers choose something else that is less triggering? There was NO OTHER option? There's always another option. It makes me uncomfortable to listen to OMG and Cookie. I don't want to be uncomfortable listening to a song. Also, Cookie is made my min Heejin... Not by the girls... If they were unstanning because of cookie, then they are probably unstanning because of the decision Min Heejin made to release the song.

[@dbfjjdbdb.2091]

@@immealldayeveryday9425 Stop, do you even know all about Min Hee Jin past? Don't speak if you don't know.

[@chae-lis]

I agree in the OMG thing. Although Min Heejin is talented as a designer, it is not cool to not represent well mental health issues.

[@aurorayok]

on omg as i have a friend who struggle with mental health issue , she was actually fine and happy about this concept and glad to see more wider concept for the groups because she have seen more even wilder concept (in other country groups) but yeah it's just personal opinion , people have difference perspective on this but just to say , not everybody who struggle with it are all feeling attacked by that as my friend said it's just for entertainment she doesn't think much as it's a mocking or anything (but i know there's should have awareness i know i know)

[@ruum9]

I have mental health issues and I didn't find it offensive because it was clearly trying to tell a story & not trying to portray mental illness. The only problem I have with it is the entire idea of mentally ill people being these crazy beings who belong in psych wards, I think we should totally banish it, and the ending was weird too because the guy just said he found the material uncomfortable and then got apparently sent somewhere. I get that mhj was trying to portray the insane stans who have no touch with reality because of obsession with kpop idols, but her portrayal had several faults in it.

[@aurorayok]

@@ruum9 yeah the last part actually felt wrong too lol but on the psych wards part as i talk with my friend (she's not nj or any hard kpop stan , she just watch the mv because i talk with her lol ) and she doesn't mind about psych wards at all too but maybe it just because of personal preference as she likes darker concept thing like , if gonna go meaning to go crazy , then go crazy at its peak, something like that lol but ty for sharing your opinion too 🤔🤔 imo i'm not saying like to get in mhj side or anything but as for presentation perspective (?) i think it's just easy to understanding visually for the meaning of crazy = psych wards ? i guess (but yeah ik it would rubs a wrong way too) 😭😭😭(actually we all have that craziness inside and we're still doing fine irl lol)

[@junesoup]

my friend who goes in and out of a psych ward found this extremely insensitive, she felt like her trauma is being ridiculed because these girls just are dancing and having fun in a psych ward. the entire concept was quirky mental illness which just feels wrong.

[@vkskms]

@@junesoup yall are so fucking sensitive its insane

[@vkskms]

how is someones personal trauma ridiculed by a korean gg mv like what

[@nightmode95]

Generally too many fans focus on being a fan themself, engaging in fanwars, ranking idols, spending too much unnecessary time online instead of simply enjoying some music and focusing on their own lives.

[@sur_un_nuage]

if there was a way for children to live out their dreams safely and showcase their talent in an environment that would still allow them to be kids not treat them like adults no one would be against minors debuting but reality is the world sucks and these kids aren’t protected :/ the omg music video (vaguely) reminded me of the music video of i drive myself crazy by nsync

[@NickaLah]

Exactly, and at this point I don't have much faith in MHJ as far as protecting these girls, because she seems more interested in clapping back at valid criticisms about HER than the well being of those kids.

[@roaxelie]

​@@NickaLah es I saw somewhere where they said for the Danielle Chinese scandal. She made her apologize but when it's her, she makes it their whole concept or MV, or tweets about it.

[@roaxelie]

Yes about the idols one. Young idols like 14 can't do aegyo or they are called cringe but then they want the older idols to act cute. The young idols all act cool and calm but they baby the adults.

[@chimdinmau.0044]

Thank you for addressing the hypocrisy in the whole “minors shouldn’t debut for their own safety” argument. The same people advocating against the toxicity of the industry are the same people contributing to it. K-pop stans really lack accountability. It’s always the industry’s aka company’s fault and never theirs, which is funny, because I don’t see the company on the internet harassing and cyber bullying other people🥱🤔 Also Wonyoung’s (and now Leeseo’s) situation is a crystal clear example of how the prettier and more successful you are, the more people do anything in their power to hurt and discredit you.🙄 #7 & #9 ughhh you really spilled that😶

[@werefuckedbutihopewerenot2782]

The Wonyoung and Leeseo "controversy" is just ridiculous. I get that lipsyncing while not dancing is something that deserves to be criticized but why is it that people only start to pay attention to it when it's about Wonyoung? Many others have done this, a prime example is when idols lipsync in radio shows when they're just there standing. I'm not even a fan of Wonyoung but the way people grab every opportunity to hate on her is just sad. If you really want to address the issue of lipsyncing, then criticize the action as a whole, not only solely focusing on a girl that you're jealous of.

[@chimdinmau.0044]

@@werefuckedbutihopewerenot2782 that’s one good point. The second point would be that both Wonyoung and Leeseo are still rookies. I doubt that they have enough backing to walk up to Starship or the broadcasting station and demand that they lipsync. So if people have a problem with the lip syncing why not address it with the people who probably made that decision in the first place or like you said, address the situation as a whole!!?

[@homhom8712]

@@werefuckedbutihopewerenot2782 yea everything gets problematic when it's about WONYOUNG like seriously she always gets targeted for even a small mistake as if she's not a human That lip syncing case it's really annoying I saw Chaewon of LSFM did it too(lipsync while being seated) but no one said anything and when it comes to wonyoung then it's a disaster?? We shouldn't have any problem at the first place whether the idols lip syncs or not bc we don't know what could've been the actual reason of it ...its just the haters who are so brainless that they want the idols to be perfect

[@pnlpyng7625]

@@werefuckedbutihopewerenot2782 That's a good point. Every artists lipsyncs at some point, but as soon as Leeseo and Wonyoung did it, everyone went crazy on it.

[@pnlpyng7625]

YES!! They're the same people who are age-shaming them and spreading negativity. It's just weird how they'll say that minors shouldn't endure the limelight just yet, and then go on to be the worst hater of them because they don't want them to debut at their age. ALSO!! It's actually pretty normal for people to debut at this age. For them, it might seem odd because they're older now but when they were 14, other 14 year olds were debuting and they didn't care then, why do they care now?

[@parsachoudhury6727]

Erm, so very long comment incoming lol, there is a tl;dr tho. So the OMG mv. God it made me very mad. And the way Kpop stans on Twitter are refusing to listen to actual psych ward escapees who have a problem with it by dismissing it as "a chronically online take" just makes it worse. The video uses the psych ward in such a way that it mixes a fun lighthearted mv and a deep storyline that sparks conversations, to the point where it loses itself and comes of as very ableist. If it's a deep mv, then well they executed it pretty terribly didn't they? Because how are they gonna destigmatize mental illness when they have girls dancing around in hospital gowns? That's not what the psych ward is. If it was to tell some really thought provoking story then they did a pretty shit job because this is not an accurate representation of mental illness or he psych ward. And it failed to do it correctly because it tried to mix it up with the fun and quirky concept. Like those are two things that don't go together. You can't destigmatize mental health when you don't depict it right. And even if you're gonna talk about mental health in a lighthearted way, you should do so in a way that doesn't make people uncomfortable but doesn't make light of it. surely you shouldn't be using it as a callout to Kpop stans (itonically, the same Kpop stans she disses are the ones who use "you need to ho back to your psych ward" as a clapback in fanwars.) Or hint at these girls being there due to schizophrenia and experience of delusions, an actual problem right? Surely people who want to actually care about mental illness as anything more than a wacky aesthetic would know better? And there in, the argument that I've seen so many Kpop stans use to dismiss people's concerns - i.e. "the mv is fictional and uses imagery of mental illness to spread a message and tell a story" - falls apart. Yes it was storytelling, but it was in poor taste because it was a sloppy depiction of something that has traumatized disabled people to no end because of how much abuse they suffered. Yes, this topic and imagery have been used in several forms of media, but the difference between them and the OMG mv is that OMG goes halfway in actually using it meaningfully. Because how are you gonna use mental illness so prominently in your story, but not show the ugly sides to it? The characters in the mv are shown to have fun in the psych ward, shown to be "the quirky mentally ill bad bitches", not human beings who suffer from actual disabilities. So no, you can't bring up other pieces of art that use mental illness as imagery either. Because it's not the same. And the fact that Min Hee Jin added a cheeky little scene where it shows that anyone who dislikes her mvs (mind you, the "hate" comment she referenced was tame and most def not hate) is a mentally disabled psych ward patient makes me think that she didn't care about starting meaningful conversation about mental health with this mv. In fact, I thought she was making light of the entire thing because having the dumb opinion that lore-based music videos are unnecessary is the same as experiencing delusions apparently. No, she's using this, and these poor girls, as a shield against, well, quite literally anything that hurts her ego. And of course Kpop stans will keep eating it up because d*ck riding this p*dophile who made minors and barely adults sing about their "cookie" is something they must do because good music and nice aesthetics. Tl;dr, simply adding the subject of mental illness mindlessly as lore fodder doesn't destigmatize mental illness. In fact it adds to the stigma because it doesn't depict it in a realistic way. This mv fails to do so. So yes, this mv can very well be seen as insensitive, poorly thought out and maybe even ableist. And Kpop stans don't have enough critical thinking ability to question the icky way this mv was executed.

[@soft4taeng]

I think you’re absolutely right and no one can tell you you’re wrong if this is how you perceived the mv. I think this video should have been directed by someone who knew something about mental health in order for it to be better represented, but in my personal opinion, whoever had the idea for this concept just wanted to do it for the sake of doing something new and original when they actually don’t know the first thing about a mental ward (i might be wrong but his is how i see it). I also think such young girls like newjeans shouldn’t be doing this kind of concept. As a company you know some people are not like this concept and they are gonna bash the group for it, yet you set them up with something that can cause a controversy…this is kinda disappointing and Heejin’s attempt at justifying her choices at the end of the mv just felt pretty tacky.

[@parsachoudhury6727]

@@soft4taeng 100%. This was executed very irresponsibly and the way she keeps using these poor girls as scapegoats against anything, valid or invalid, said against her work is very sad

[@mrdjokie]

shit take.

[@Junhanpookieprotector]

I can honestly see both arguments being made in the comments, such as the OMG mv being disrespectful to psych ward escapees and how it can be insensitive, I can also see the argument about it meaning idols going crazy due to the expectations being put on them and loosing their sense of self due to said expectations, but I think everyone can agree that Min Hee Jin is super icky. But this is just my personal input, please feel free to correct me on anything in my comment.

[@pnlpyng7625]

2:30 I ABSOLUTELY AGREE! Most people tend to "worry" about minors because others are doing so too. They might acknowledge the dangers of debuting young, but in truth they wouldn't say anything if no one else did. They like to say "they're going to get sexualized..." or "K-POP is too toxic for young minds", and then go around and age-shame them. Like...what? They talk about shielding them from the world of toxicity and letting them have their childhood, when in truth, the are the worst haters of the minors.

[@zhisu2665]

I've seen some Sone's still treating Seohyun like she's a teenager despite being nearly 32. It's a reason why I'm not a real big fan of the "maknae" title [being used incorrectly and literally] because many maknae's are still seen as being much younger than they actually are and infantilised [Jungkook and Taemin are good examples of this too]

[@rowanjoy419]

I remember when I came in to kpop, I like groups that were distint from each other, but them people were dragging my favorite groups for that and saying other are better, so I try to get into kpop groups that have a more variety of concepts but then I realize that those groups will never been as popular and that is sad because some of my faves aren't safe right now. No gonna lie, I feel really sad, I may cry when they officially disband even though I knew that would happen.

[@rowanjoy419]

Yeah being honest, the reason why I do not like movies or music videos about very controversial topics, is because they are usually no good, they usually fall into "Romanticizing a mental illness" or making having a mental illness an aesthetic, of course there are some movies and songs that did it right like "Inside out" very good at explaining depression to children. That is why I never though someone would do it, no because they do not care but because this may affect people and even they can get in trouble if they do not do it correctly and is a very sensible topic that should be taken seriously, but again everyone what they want to do.

[@fairyjoon_]

as an army, i can openly say that i support and love all member’s equally, and i always will. i would never chose one member over the other no matter what. it’s ot7 or nothing :))

[@aloowalia2849]

Same I ll miss them 😭

[@missluna___]

#8. Oh my god thank you. I will never forget the time that I was in your comment section getting destroyed (by others, so we're clear) because I called this particular problem out. This fandom is so exhausting sometimes, as much as I love the group.

[@soft4taeng]

I was literally called a Bahiyyih hater just for saying some of her stans are pretty toxic, but i mean, that’s the cold hard truth. OT8 kep1ians are not the only problem in that fandom

[@myittepnymutianguage3238]

the facts spoken in this video needs to be heard by 99% of the 4th Gen fans

[@Nothing.C0mes-after-midnight..]

You are right,what is the kpop stan community coming to?...

[@NickaLah]

Thank you for mentioning OMG, I was one of the people that was so uncomfortable with Cookie and MHJ's poor handling of the situation that I just couldn't enjoy their other debut songs. But I genuinely like the music itself so I followed other's advice and waited for their comeback. So, the end of OMG felt like someone threw a cold bucket of water over my head, especially because the "hater" made a mild comment about an MV not being appropriate for the girls. For me, I felt like I wasted my time giving MHJ the benefit of the doubt. I've been into kpop since 2008 and I've never disliked a CEO so much that I'm now actively ignoring their group's recommendations. I dunno if she worked at SM too long and brought that attitude with her, or what, but I hope the girls don't follow her lead and become just as vindictive. BTW, what really gets me is they have all these resources, money and time to make four MVs for one song, but they couldn't be bothered with adjusting Cookie's English lyrics so all international fans can enjoy it? I'm sorry, but I am just not somebody that forgets this kind of stuff, especially because we know the rumors over the worst things that happen to idols. We have no idea if those things happen to even well known groups or which CEOs actively entice "buyers" towards their idols. So, when I see blatant sexual innuendos being sung by a 14 yr old girl, and no action is taken to protect them, I'm going to wonder if it's all done on purpose. That's even if I ignore any other red flags about the CEO.

[@NickaLah]

BTW, if anyone doesn't know the rumors about how some idols are basically treated like concubines... it's not just a rumor, there have been legit examples of CEOs trying to sell off even the most popular girls in their group. Supposedly it happens to male idols as well, and the only question is how big of a problem it really is... imo I don't believe for a second that Cube Entertainment didn't fully know about G.Na's prostitution with a wealthy man, and I would be surprised if they didn't actively encourage it or pressure her into it.

[@mrdjokie]

shit take😊

[@dddmw1912]

sooo true! thank you for this

[@Yoongireve]

I agree with the New Jeans M/V one, I feel like they’re trying to be relatable, but it’s just coming off sooo wrong

[@nevergonnagiveyouupnevergo972]

5:16 those girls weren’t even mocking wony if you’ve seen the whole vid a staff gave them a strawberry and said do aegyo and they did it as a joke this is why you should see the whole story instead of trusting the internet

[@soft4taeng]

Mocking or not, the real problem was how differently people reacted to Wonyoung and those girls doing the SAME thing. With Wonyoung it became such a big deal, involving death threats, but when it came to them, nobody had a problem (which should be people’s normal reaction because why would anyone have a problem with someone eating). But it’s clear there are double standards when it’s about Wonyoung

[@nevergonnagiveyouupnevergo972]

@@soft4taeng yea I agree with you on this one

[@aug1014]

Burning hot takes as always, keep up the stellar work

[@koolvein_klein]

I honestly loved OMG and ditto. Whatever it was, it was out of the box. It was something new. 🤷‍♀️

[@haileymitchell8165]

Oh one of these just gave me flashbacks to when I got into K-pop with the meanest group of girls. When I first got into K-pop I met some people (3 girls) who all were already into K-pop and my fav group was and still is BTS. However they all hated them w/ a passion. So we all quickly stopped ring friends because they would constantly talk to me about “listen to this group they’re music doesn’t suck like BTS” “how can you listen to them they sound awful!”. And I wanted friends into K-pop so at first I was like maybe this will pass but it didn’t and I dropped them girls. They told me one day “you can’t listen to them around us anymore cause we don’t like them” but what really pushed me over the edge with them was when I found out the all had fake Army fan accounts. Go on there spamming Stan’s post w/ things like “BTS is the best so much better then yours!” And then I found there other Twitter accounts for the bands they really liked and they honestly were not any better on that. Like tweeting about how they hate certain artists and even tweeting hoping for an artist death. Most of the tweets were directed at BTS but they also talked about groups like twice, Red Velvet, and Loona. They were all into the same big girl group so they kinda hated any other girl group. But BTS was one thing they all hated a lot because of the group they stanned. It was such an awful experience for those few months that I decided I did not want friends interested in K-pop.

[@t4Ev04]

Wtf your “friends” are so toxic literally the worse u can find

[@haileymitchell8165]

@@t4Ev04 yeah I’m not friends with them anymore. Like blocked them on every social media and never talked to them ever again. It made K-pop much better for me. Meeting those girls almost made me just stop with K-pop all together but I couldn’t imagine not stanning BTS right now.

[@ArielthelittleFISH]

yes I had similar experience .. a fan out of nower directed me "BTS can't sing because they look like giving birth when they sing high notes, come stan this and that :|" .. I blocked her and didn't said that actually her good looking faves were lip-syncing... Did she think she was doing a good job at promoting? ... and troll account are so obvious that aren't real fans by account name and short too sentences to start a fanwar and they succeed easily

[@t4Ev04]

@@haileymitchell8165 nice! People like those are literally why society is not improving

[@haileymitchell8165]

@@ArielthelittleFISH yeah I hate the whole “Stan this group instead” because it’s always said with malicious intent. The troll accounts are out of control especially now!

[@chloe-ru9mu]

remember when the lovesick girls mv came out and jennie dressed up and faked the stereotypical mannerisms of a psychiatric patient? that’s the same vibes i get from the OMG mv and it rubs me the wrong way

[@chloe-ru9mu]

@slaynoo ! i didn’t say they did, i just said that the concept in general rubbed me the wrong way. i never said it was their fault

[@mrdjokie]

people nowadays are so dumb they can’t decipher concepts and blatantly think the girls are mocking mentally ill people without looking into the meaning of the mv. it’s hilarious

[@hanoufmh3699]

I agree with you about the omg mv

[@M5FTZ]

3:56 the mv was supposed to address the unrealistic expectations of idols. Hanni-iPhone shows the multiple things idols have to do to engage fans. Entertain,play music,talk to them etc. The comparison emphasises how unrealistic all of this is as they have to do this on the daily like an iPhone. Haerin-cat. Fans compared her to a cat. She then became the cat. Possibly to comfort fans or admire her cuteness. Minji- doctor. Shows how idols become almost like doctors expected to fix fan’s problems. Yk the whole ‘Kpop saved my life’? This is a criticism of it. It could also represent how she feel like the oldest member. Having to solve her members problems while trying to fix her own. Danielle-she just seems lost. Maybe as idols have a fake personality on camera (which they are being filmed constantly) she doesn’t know who she really is anymore. She’s also gone a bit crazy when laughing at television which is broken. Hyein- Princess. Thinks she’s in a fairytale. Maybe shows the naivety some ppl have when entering the industry where it’s all nice when it isn’t.

[@kcube]

happy new year!

[@Farasong2328]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the OMG mv concept. If y’all actually take the time to watch ditto and then this you’ll understand what they were going for. People should stop speaking for others, if actual people with mental illnesses have an issue with it then they’ll speak up but how can a person who doesn’t have a mental illness understand what triggers and what doesn’t. This was their take on mental illness as an idol without making it too dark or depressing. People complain about everything these days

[@Bri.1vr]

You literally ate this video up. Everything your saying is so true Idk why some kpop fans are like that. like Can they not live in place

[@dibidibidis3367]

As someone who struggles with there mental health especially when I was a teenager I thought that the OMG mv was disrespectful, it implies that just because someone has bad mental health that they suddenly belong in a asylum and whoever was behind the concept didn’t seem to know the difference between struggling with things like anxiety, depression, ptsd, etc and just being downright crazy. Like people will absolutely bash idols for doing anything relating to a different culture/ethnic group but when they mock mental health it’s completely fine. The song was good though

[@newjeansfan238]

As someone who struggles with mental health issue, i wasn't trigger at all, OMG's mv and lyrics specially mindblow me as a fan of kpop, it's us who are seeking for Attention, who are crazy by sending message, notification for kpop idols. In Ditto's mv, Heeseo represents fans of kpop who didn't face reality representing by the guy

[@newjeansfan238]

OMG's mv is the point of view of Kpop idols: exist for just kpop fans! In Ditto's mv, it's a point of view of a kpop fan who has no friends, has a crush in reality but didn't face the reality, filmed kpop idols all the times, her escape of her reality then Heeseo broke the camera = she choose now to face reality but at the end, she missed her being a kpop fan days.

[@newjeansfan238]

I understand Min Hee Ji's choice and she did a good marketing even if you didn't like her or not! As a person who struggles with mental health who loves kpop, i have friends in reality, i face reality, Ditto and OMG mv mindblowed me, yes i filmed kpop concert with my phone, yes i sent message, com to kpop idols....

[@newjeansfan238]

OMG's mv is a point of view of kpop idols who are seen as objects, not a person in the eyes of kpop fans, talks about the pressure to be a kpop idols and are seen as crazy if idols kpop has the guts to say the truth, kpop fans pressured them to make excuse for nothing it's that the real meaning of OMG

[@allyncardenasd1158]

They didn’t mock mental illness what are u on?

[@Welchs-Fruit-Snacks]

Happy new year

[@belaytriks]

About minors, I think it is their best interest not to work but if they do it they should be subjected to the responsability of their choices as anyone else. They have decided debut, so they have decided to be subjected to public scrutiny and critique, it is that simple, but their parents should press for a more healthy enviroment for them, for age appropiate songs, clothes and dances, their agencies should be forced if needed to protect them and, above all, us as fans that have the power to make agencies to stop making debuts of children with innapropaite concepts but because we lack the feel of responsability in how we shape our own society we allow things like "cookie" to happens.

[@user-luciddream]

the same people concerned with idols wellbeing arent the same people that bully idols. kpop stans arent a monolith.

[@roshnee.bangtan]

i thought i was the only one who thought dressing kook up as a baby was weird. i myself was at that fan meeting and if im being honest he looked like he was being held captive 😭 he looked so forced to do it and i honestly felt bad. it’s so weird to see ppl treat grown adults like they are children. and it’s just bc they find the idols cute. there’s nothing wrong with that but you can call an idol cute without babying them around.

[@streamscientist436]

i will forever hate the term pick me. people just took it and ran with it. all wonyoung did was eat a strawberry and throw a baseball and yall came at her throat. using the term pick me wasnt even fitting for the situation. a "pick me" is a girl who puts other women down for male validation. yall find these terms and just spam them for situations with no context relating to the word, its so annoying. another example is yuna (itzy). yuna hardly acts like herself anymore because yall put her down so bad. she was literally just being herself and yall attacked her. people cant even have fun anymore without being attacked, its so incredibly irritating.

[@ryleeesweets103]

yeah as someone with bpd, seeing newjeans dancing in a mental hospital while singing "I'm going crazy right" really doesn't sit right with me ...

[@vim2339]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 new jeans 👖 anyway they slay and Minji visual goddess i love her. Leave wonyong alone like I’m so sick of the hater

[@butitsyouyouretheonethatiwant]

i love your new intro so much

[@soft4taeng]

Thank you!!!

[@anthonyxavierhall8301]

Ummm omg is about the harsh and unrealistic expectations on kpop idols in kpop and how it’s so hard and eventually makes them go crazy in a way

[@soft4taeng]

And it is a good idea for a concept, but since mental health is a very delicate topic, it’s not hard understanding why some people might have felt it was inappropriate to represent it like that. Min Heejin surely knew this was gonna cause some controversy (in fact the final scene was literally predicting people’s criticism), yet she chose to just go for it, even if she knew the girls would get backlash and this really rubs me the wrong way.

[@pinkvenomblackpinkscomeback]

OMFFFG, THE LAST THING IS TRUE AS FUCK, HELPPPP

[@babybluepop9436]

Happy new year 💙💚💛🧡💜💖

[@RiRi-ku6xz]

Heavy on 1&2 &.min heejin..I’m just angry 1 is cuz most K-pop fans are teenagers same age as leeseo they aren’t allowed to act like they want they r convinced by others that it’s cringy & are socially controlled that’s why they projecte on younger idols thier jealously But when it’s older ones they mentally distance themselves from them so they think they r some webtoon character unconsciously…it just hits them when it’s ppl their age debut

[@daytonemerly]

I found a KZbin short RANKING 4th gen maknaes. Most of the comments saying X (mostly Eunchae) idol acts their age while Z (Leeso for the most part, and Hyein) idol is trying too hard, she's cringey, she doesn't act like how this idols her age act. Like, 🤨???

[@fishthefish333]

Love the new intro 💗💗

[@adot...]

Gosh! Can I just say I love this video and I actually was waiting for a possible follow up from your last video. But this video is definitely a conversation. I will talk about a few of the points made in the video cause yk why not? Firstly, about minors, all I have to say the more I grow up, the more disgusting it becomes. I am 15 atm and seeing 15 year olds or sometimes even 16 year olds as being questionable for me, but 2 years ago, it seemed normal. I remember with the garam controversy and had to continuously remind people that there is no evidence given by the alleged "victim" and that she is a teenager, this happened when she was 12. WE WERE ARGUING OVER SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED WHEN SHE WAS 12! We all made stupid mistakes when we were 12! I hate that now people are acting like garam's biggest fans, you're the reason why she probably doubts her dreams everyday stfu and this goes towards any other person that has fought about something a MINOR did. Exactly, they're a MINOR! Wonyoung shouldn't be hated for eating a strawberry, I know a lot of people that eat strawberries or fruits or food or drink from a glass with two hands, also that was not "pick-me" behaviour, TF? The NewJeans video was just Min Heejin trying to defend her actions. She's an incredibly stubborn artist and clearly doesn't like when people disagree with her image lmao. The poor girls. I've seen some Tokki's think that this was from the girls, no it's MIN HEEJIN! Girl, was gaslighting us for trying to protect them! Omg! (Pun not intended). For your last point, I see people saying that Giselle is untalented. But, I saw her fancams from the award shows in 2022, she's improved so much! Rap-wise (in which she was great with anyway) but especially dance-wise, she has improved a lot as a performer and so no, I don't think Giselle is a bad performer, definitely not Karina, and definitely not NingNing, Winter has improved but not as much as the other girls in Aespa and Giselle has been working so hard. The minute the girls start to improve, everyone just vanishes lol... Sorry for the long paragraph lmao

[@soft4taeng]

Thanks for appreciating the video! Regarding what you said about Giselle’s improvement, you are so right and this reminded me of Tzuyu and how much she has also improved over the years, but somehow stans tend to act as if idols who start off being mediocre couldn’t possibly improve with time, which is stupid. Some stans still treat Tzuyu as if she was the unexperienced girl she was during Sixteen and it’s so frustrating.

[@adot...]

@@soft4taeng Literally! She just lost confidence! An now she's improving so much! And no one is paying attention! Why?

[@newjeansfan238]

OMG's mv is the point of view of Kpop idols: exist for just kpop fans! In Ditto's mv, it's a point of view of a kpop fan who has no friends, has a crush in reality but didn't face the reality, filmed kpop idols all the times, her escape of her reality then Heeseo broke the camera = she choose now to face reality but at the end, she missed her being a kpop fan days.

[@ArielthelittleFISH]

thank you I was confused by the intro now I get it

[@Ososkkisksksmssmsmssmssms]

7th one!! THIS!! This can even be applied with minors debuting. Like I’ll be like “why are these companies debuting 16 year olds” and some mf K-popper will come at me saying “ BoA debuted at 13!! This has always been the case and it’s not any different!!!” Okay? And?? What are you trying to prove??

[@newjeansfan238]

You just didn't understand OMG didn't portray people with mental health, i have mental health issue and i wasn't trigger at all, OMG's mv and lyrics specially mindblow me as a fan of kpop, it's us who are seeking for Attention by sending message, notification for kpop idols. In Ditto's mv, Heeseo represents fans of kpop who didn't face reality representing by the guy

[@makeusaywoww]

on the 2nd one, you’re so right. I don’t understand why kpop companies don’t take the signature sound this so serious. This is why people love IVE’s music. They’re doing this with Kep1er right now and I was so scared for newjeans comeback because I thought they wouldn’t stick to their sound (but they did it’s cool)

[@illegaluser69]

Like Garam isn't a bully

[@irina-ex8wg]

As someone who suffers from clinical mental illness and disability, i found New Jeans' OMG MV super uncomfortable to sit through. I feel ridiculed. I understand some of the message it was trying to convey, but they could have used a different setting. Obviously i get that korean people might not be as educated when it comes to mental illnesses because of how taboo it is there, but still. People who don't suffer from actual mental conditions/ disability might not see the problem with it and that only fuels the stereotype that being mentally ill is just being 'quirky' or 'crazy' instead of something that needs actual empathy and treatment. Just imagine if a kpop group 'cosplayed' as cancer patients to convey how sick of this world they are ? It would be extremely inapropriate, right ? Well it's the same here.

[@preciousz396]

question! how do you edit your voice like that?

[@johnsthetic]

as a person who formerly always said I love all the members equally/ I support all of solo`s equally I am no longer that person its not because I dont care about every member; but I cant get myself to like things which aint in my preferance and in groups I may like few members solo sometimes all members solo and sometimes I prefer the group project thats it and I started accepting that feeling of only supporting the which I would prefer to listen

[@TheLurkingDerm]

Amen!

[@newjeansfan238]

OMG mv is about kpop IDOLS mental health put by kpop fans like you, create rumors, assumptions about kpop idols be that or that. Another person write this:" the monologue by Hanni at the beginning of OMG feels like a commentary on the expectations that people have of idols and reminding them that idols aren't something that are bought, paid for and designed to meet your whims. They're real people with real emotions just like yours."

[@pinkfruitrcta]

REALEST VIDEO EVER

[@Hellokitty_391]

Sometimes i'm wondering if svt hates it when carats told them to do aegyo cuz bros were touching 30 😭

[@sea_of_love]

also most people who write malicious comments behind a keyboard are actually really lonely and sad people who do require mental health specialists, so minji taking that person to the hospital is not meant to be an insult. interpreting a small scene where she just says "alright, its time to stop now :)" as an insult, and that someone getting psychiatric help is crazy, says more about YOUR internal biases. it could be interpreted it as them extending empathy to people who are sad and lonely and spend too much time being obsessed with kpop as a coping mechanism to fill a void in themselves.

[@aelays8031]

you told them to act their age but when their acting their age you hate them. When they act more matured they also get hate

[@alone0_042]

Nah facts this whole video. Except nwjns concept one, I think it’s a bit of reach… but I also get where you’re coming from.

[@wywrd_mtnt]

number 9 you're so real

[@okaysumin]

Agreed again

[@areias9127]

You ate

[@jurionmx]

Monsta X having a comeback with RRASON on 2023.01.09 6PM (KST). Please check it out. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@hanyo_oy]

7:28 K-pop has become so competitive that fans compete to see who suffers the most. they try to victimize their favorite idols as much as possible. the best example I can think of is stays. they insist on saying that skz never had big3 privilege and that they are totally self-made. they were always popular, they just hadn't gone viral and you should be happy about that, not sad that your favorite group didn't struggle as much as others 🫠

[@streamscientist436]

im subscribing

[@Ankit-uv3yp]

4.it deals with the metal health of kpop idols and the Parasocial relationship they live in with their fans, so it's not about the general public but mental health of the artist. Guess it was too hard for some.

[@ancientmingyu0604]

If you say you're against minors in Kpop but then consume content of groups like NewJeans and Baby Monster once they debut, you do not care about these children whatsoever. I have set my personal boundaries of what I personally deem acceptable to 17. In Germany and many other countries you are considered a legal adult at 18, so that's still in my personal comfort range. But you'll catch me dead before I consume, let alone support, any group that has members younger than 17.

[@illegaluser69]

Facts

[@soozi9292]

As someone who has dealt with mental health issue I didn't find OMG offensive or harmful I just thought it was showing fun quirky but relatable concept Also mental health issues are shown in dramas and movies as well

[@Ososkkisksksmssmsmssmssms]

Infantilising in kpop is so weird to me, like isn’t that a grown ass man??

[@ateezfutureworldwide3031]

Their is a group from kQ entertainment debut in 2018 called Ateez end yes they are taking over the world with their talent and waking people up .they look like the next big thing................ from noise music to poopy and rock sound to perfect soft bald to traditional instruments to a music styles are never used never in kpop. Because Ateez doesn't follow trends but make one

[@dzrmgkva]

What voice app r u using?

[@soft4taeng]

SpeakLine

[@kayin5696]

I kind of have to agree, I thought newjeans's concept for omg was a bit brow raising. If it is telling a fictional story, then I get it. (Think of Sucker Punch, which is actually what I thought of watching the MV, so it's not really original...) but if it was just trying to be edgy while having some secret deep meaning, it probably wasn't the best way to go about it.

[@forevertwentynine99]

6:08 this should be a no brainer because there's not one fan in this world who love every single song their fave group has released (yep, I can guarantee that and it's a lie if you even try to deny it), how much more the individual music released by each member which is completely detached to group's music. RM is my bias in BTS but in my opinion, J-hope's album is a lot better (I still listen to Indigo though, JITB is my Album of 2022).

[@nancypullen8919]

Honestly, I only heard bad things about K-pop Stan’s being on wonyoun. It’s unfortunate. Haters should stop hating on wonyoun, beacase it’s ruining my reputation on how I think about wonyoun. My polite version of this is please stop. P.s I don’t even know what’s true or false any more, and I need to, beacase if not I’m going down a MASSIVE rabbit hole. I’m not going to search for hours for the correct awnser. Maybe one day we could untwist all these ongoing, twisted lies. Either that or the lie rope splits.

[@deranged8321]

agreed with everything except the omg one. i didn't find it quirky but that's just my opinion 😋

[@cayla1773]

I thought the OMG mv was confusing, I couldn’t even form an opinion on it

[@euonymous3572]

the 6th i remembered there are kpop fans who said "I'M AN UP10TION STAN TODAY 😍😍". clown, no you just like wooshin and wei

[@cry4dayeon]

8:07 LOUDERR

[@RiRi-ku6xz]

#9 is the most annoying thing in K-pop and in world in general

[@baekchikenhyun]

Tbh you're right about the first point, but you mostly need to blame the Companies, they treat the idols like little kids. Kpop idols aren't allowed to date, say swear words, not allowed to have their own personal social media accounts, when they stand up to staff members mistreating them they blame them aren't they aren't even suspose to defend themselves, force them to go on dangerous diets and literally so much more and onto the fourth point. NewJeans MV 'OMG wasn't even about mental health so not sure what u were talking about and also who cares if it triggers people with mental health issues. The world doesn't come with a trigger warning, the world doesn't revolve around them. If it triggers you then just don't watch it anymore? NewJeans nor the heejin is responsible for your triggers. And how is a hospital setting suspose to be 'triggering' you can't expect them NOT to make that MV just for some people they don't know, for the Fifth point, you aren't expecting wrong but let's be honest. It's a hot topic and you can't expect kpop stand to stay quiet when she's obviously favored by starship, this isn't even only about the company. She purposely cares about looking good at all times and cute before anything

[@soft4taeng]

Min Heejin totally knew what she was doing, she knew this concept would have caused controversies, she also knew cookie's lyrics were inappropriate, yet she didn't care at all and this is my problem. As for Wonyoung and how you say she's clearly favored, have you ever heard of the center position? Probably not, because there's absolutely nothing new with kpop groups having centers. If you think she's favored you should maybe keep up with ive and take a look at all of the solo activities the other girls have been doing since debut...and last but not least, what even is the problem if she cares about looking good? Who would ever wanna look ugly if they had all the cameras on them?

[@baekchikenhyun]

@@soft4taeng lmfao, you're being foolish rn..why TF should Wonyoung be the center of the group when YUNJIN is quite literally the leader?? How does that make sense, the leader is the role model and should be the center. Not even Wonyoung's vocals can defend this. It's just proof that she is favorited, and for what? Just for looking pretty? Just because an Idol is the center of the group doesn't mean the members should get any less recognition and attention, now grow tf up and realize that I'm right. It's always Wonyoung Wonyoung Wonyoung, what about the others? Do they not matter, I know this may be a marketing strategy but it's still so unfair and not moral so why are you defending this?

[@baekchikenhyun]

@@soft4taeng you're right, no one wants to look ugly on camera but her behavior is literally obviously forced and cringe asf, she should just act normal. Not even the other members of Ive act like that, all she cares about is how she looks instead of doing her job right and it doesn't matter if Wonyoung isn't doing her job right, she'll always be favorited...it's so sad to see that nobody gives a damn about the other members of IVE. Even though I don't blame her, it's the Company and they influence her behavior

[@baekchikenhyun]

@@soft4taeng You may be right, probably only the western fans noticed that about the OMG's MV, Kpop entertainments do it for the Korean audience not for international fans like you sweetheart but hey Business is all about profit, at the end of the day she's still making money and NewJeans is getting famous more than ever, so I'm sure she doesn't care.

[@soft4taeng]

@@baekchikenhyun It's funny how kpop stans assume what an idol's real behavior is, you don't know any of these people and you can't say she only cares about looking pretty instead of doing her job. If you knew Wonyoung you'd know she's a hard worker who takes her job extremely seriously and puts it before everything else. She wouldn't be where she is now if it wasn't for the fact she has worked non stop since the age of 14

[@alexvasileva4297]

I don't think it makes it better but people didn't make fun of leeseo because she was crying, it's kinda the opposite, they were making fun of her because it looked like she was fake crying

[@soft4taeng]

And that's even worse because who gives people the right to assume someone is fake crying? Why would she even fake cry, i mean she just won soty, isn't it normal crying when winning awards?

[@MRX-fd2un]

I MISS THE OLD INTRO😭😭

[@nooral-zahraa2490]

I disagree with you, txt have a certain concept in which they make a lot of different sounds and genre for, and they ARE big the biggest 4th gen group with actual decent songs in every genre, they went to world festivals they made history. If your idol will have the same sound you will get bored of it soon enough

[@Free_Palestine_75]

Twice lost a lot of popularity when they ditched their signature cute sound and BP are still doing the same girl crush songs with the same formula and they're still huge, it's just depends on how well you do the concepts

[@roseyrose_jadiebelle]

I agree with the omg mv, i like nj but this was forced weird and inaccurate, just too forced

[@newjeansfan238]

I understand Min Hee Ji's choice and she did a good marketing even if you didn't like her or not! As a person who struggles with mental health who loves kpop, i have friends in reality, i face reality, Ditto and OMG mv mindblowed me, yes i filmed kpop concert with my phone, yes i sent message, com to kpop idols....

[@PumpkinGoat-vn4lz]

2:12 Red Velvet: 🤐

[@jenniemandu26]

Idc how much people talks abt new jeans but sorry the fact is they are more focused on music instead of being a "visual group" and it actually shows. Plus the biggest fact they are from hybe and when it comes to bighit we already know their motto "we believe in music" and hybe's music is incomparable with others so...and look at new jeans's vocals dude i really refuse to agree that they just debuted idk what hybe feeds to their artist? How they are so skilled dammm. And so sorry to say this there are bunch of 4th gen ggs who are just a "visual group" nothing else i swear they can't even sing properly. I Don't wanna mention their cuz their stans can attack me. But It's true cuz 4th gen Isn't about music actually. And then there's some 4th gen Groups that are proving how good they are actually.

[@Free_Palestine_75]

They were talking about the MV not the girls

[@jenniemandu26]

@@Free_Palestine_75 they are also talking abt music as well. My point is also music not the gurls

[@eviekramar9488]

4:20 as someone whos mentally ill and been to the psyc its not that serious thees a story and youre clearly missing the point, also im pretty sure the girls got some sort of say and ideas in the mv. i don't think it was min heejins intention was to "trigger" anyone in a make believe story (not defending her past actions,)