Kpop pills you will find hard to swallow

time for some kpop pills...these are hard to swallow though, so grab a glass of water before beginning
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Intro song: TXT - Thursday’s child has far to go (instrumental)
Outro song: IVE - Dear Cupid (instrumental)

[@sydney9000]

words cannot describe how bad i feel for garam. there were grown adults in their 20s who were making jokes about her getting removed from the group. did she handle the situation the best at the time? no, but she was a literal child. i hope she's doing ok mentally

[@StarAreebaGoRandom]

Honestly it doesn’t matter what age they are no one has right to cyber bully it’s sad she lost her everything

[@ryleeesweets103]

apparently she's attending SOPA for acting now and is still determined to become an idol! happy she's doing okay now but I cant imagine how bad this situation must have affected her

[@lafilledeprintemps9665]

it's hypocritical that people were bullying her for allegedly being a bully it doesnt make sense they bullied a literal kid

[@kking2411]

@@StarAreebaGoRandom she didn’t cyber bully anyone she was literally 12 😟

[@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067]

They did more inappropriate jokes … I’ve seen it all over the media

[@YourPsychoanalyst]

Kim Garam 🖤 not only deserves an excuse and a restoration of her reputation, but also ANOTHER CAREER OPPORTUNITY in a new girl group. She is still very young. So even if it takes two years or something: Put her on a stage again.

[@ladyzebachi9365]

Unfortunately, that's unlikely to happen. If she even tries to come into the K-pop spotlight, she will get a ton of hate left, right and centre. Also, it's extremely rare that a company would sign a "problematic" person to debut in their group, as companies rely a lot on their public image.

[@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067]

FACTS

[@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067]

@@ladyzebachi9365 she already proved it wrong so now she has more love

[@tori36]

@@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067 Korean netizens would think differently.

[@crushicak3s]

Honestly yes, if it was a male idol who did it they wouldnt care and just admire them but when it comes to women they hate them

[@lovyoi]

The one about bare minimum, I saw people praising jungkook for bowing to other idols. That’s basic respect in korea tho 😭😭

[@sayakasbiggeststan3941]

Bro if jay park (no one asked sorry but pls accept it) bowed to someone are we gonna praise him? 💀

[@dreaming_red]

@@sayakasbiggeststan3941 pls-💀

[@sayakasbiggeststan3941]

@@dreaming_red but it kinda concerns me 💀

[@dreaming_red]

@@sayakasbiggeststan3941 💀ur not wrong tho- some k-pop stan are ready delul 😭💀

[@whatwho9560]

Shipping members and shipping in general was so bizarre to me that when I first got into kpop I legitimately thought it was a joke. But seriously do people realize that an idol could see what their fans post?

[@niseybear4161]

Hybe definitely dropped the ball with Garam. Their first few statements SUCKED. Saying “she was the victim and well sue people who say otherwise” without giving any proof behind the claim was a stupid move. Their last statement that explained everything should’ve been the first and if they planned on dropping her they should’ve never brought her out. I do have to cut them some slack tho, her case was hard to work with. Kpop fans whether they’re inets or knets are unforgiving. They would’ve found out she had that lvl 5 and she would still never hear the end of it. Like look at how kpop fans are acting now that we DO have the full document. They’re still looking for a reasons to hate her because they’d rather do that instead of admit they were wrong. HYBE could’ve done better 100% but I blame kpop fans and their love for witch hunting more. There’s only so much you can do about the general public and their hateful ways. I heard Garam is doing better and still attends SOPA in the acting department, so all I can do now is hope Garam still gets to live her dream.

[@heifnsn8199]

The picture painted of Garam at the start was just so negative and Hybe claiming that she was the victim just sounded so fake. I remained neutral but you can imagine what the public thought and the extent of abuse she received

[@KookiesNolly]

4:37 the thing that crracks me up the most about this is that when looking at what korean women say about their experiences with men, intimate partner violence and sexual harassement/assault from male friends and acquaintances is sadly very common in the country. Shit tons of women say they having experienced intimate partner violence at least once. And given how bad the anti-diffamation laws are in korea, most women cannot report what happened to them to the police (like the police even cares), cause the amount of evidence you have to bring up is insane compared to other countries and you could get charged for diffaming him (it's a well known fact that you can go to jail in korea for telling the truth bc of those laws). So the legal system clearly does not protect victims which emboldens abusers. And it's a well-known fact that with money and fame comes even less accountablity from society and the law. And on top of all that South korea just elected a president who campagned on blatant misogyny. The sad reality is that most korean men would be wild misogynist by western standards, this very much include your idols because they, like everybody else, are the product of their environment. Just cause a guy doesn't look at a woman's privates in publlic doesn't mean he treats women well behind the scenes. So yeah, defo stop praising them for the bare minimum. Yo don' t know what they say in their groupchats, how they treat their female partners, etc. A guy can be polite and still be an abuser. It all depends on wether he believes the person in front of him is worthy of respect. Never praise any man for the bare minimum but in particular, in such a cultural climate, I recommend seriously lowering you expectations for these male idols and demanding more before you throw them flowers. Yeah I know that #NotAllMen but also #WayTooFuckingMany !

[@KM10HM12]

Kpop stans be like: My fave didn’t drive over a pregnant woman on the side of the road! FEMINIST ICON!!!!!!!!

[@Skogarmaor110]

alr but why did ur comment make me laugh so hard-

[@bbi2.052]

🤣🤣

[@sayakasbiggeststan3941]

Kpop stans when they see a cow : "JIN?!"

[@dreaming_red]

💀- u made my day

[@yv3sgoist]

I did believe that garam was guilty at first, but I still feel bad for her, especially now that the truth has come out. I never harassed her. She was, and still is a minor, and that’s horrible for someone’s mental health. She deserves a new career, and I hope she does well in the future

[@mochiyeosang1908]

I remained neutral at the beginning as I wasn't really a fan of Le sseraphim but after watching Everglow-ups videos I was very much on her side.

[@jiminswife2314]

Was she guilty?

[@mochiyeosang1908]

@@jiminswife2314 no.

[@breakthewall.mp3126]

Same. I still don't understand why hybe handled the situation so badly. By kicking her out they indirectly told anyone that she's guilty and maybe done something so bad that it's worth kicking her out of the group

[@bick8601]

I was always on Garams side but there are still brainless people out there believing that she’s guilty without proof and that shows me that a lot of kpop stans love to hate on an idol. And what infuriates me more is them defending hybe and we all know that hybe did shit in protecting this poor girl.

[@gabdongipark]

I swear praising decency is ... like wtf

[@Nicholi86]

Ok 1st of all let's clear some things up. If Hybe had plans to take Eunseo to court like they said they would not be able to disclose the entire report. That report is basically what the whole case revolves around. Clearly since Garam is no longer with Hybe they cannot stop her from releasing the report since they most likely are not representing her legally anymore. Also Eunseo and her lawyers knew what they were doing when they release a portion of the report. By doing that they actually circumvented Hybe and weakened their case. Everything would have become harder for them and with public outcry so lout in SK and no one willing to actually listen to the company about the situation, they let her go. Only Garams fans were supporting her. Everyone else sided with Eunseo. Garam and Hybe never had control of the narrative from the beginning and this is the result.

[@KookiesNolly]

thank you for your common sense. Hybe simply never had control over this narrative. Unlike what people would have you believe, kpop stans' initial reaction to scandals is to believe the idol is the devil unless it's their fave, and since Garam was a new girl she didn't really have that many people to defend her yet. In this scenario, the only way you can get away with things is if the story is entirely fabricated and it's easy to prove because kpop fans only see in black and white with those things. Unforunately, Garam's case was based on a grey situation that was turned it into a classic black and white kpop scandal painting the idol as the worse person who ever lived and the victim as an innocent angel. On top of that the accuser was very strategic by releasing pictures, when they knew Hybe couldn't do the same, and the strategic pictures they chose don't actually prove any bullying but simply bc they were the only ones to do so it was enough get the peanut brains looking for a reason hate on her side. Nobody could've salvage this situation. To solely blame Hybe is also a way to absolve fans of any responsibility. at the end of the day, it's the public that abuused Garam for months. They could've waited or used their brains, but they chose not to. That's on them. And they claim they are all for "accountability" when they releash in anonymity to actually bully others. despicable.

[@Nicholi86]

@@KookiesNolly it's exactly as you said it.

[@marketamala1032]

@@KookiesNolly Exactly i hate how people are just blaming everything on hybe and not the "fans" and bullies of the internet.

[@terra9074]

I said the same exact CLC IZONE opinion before, and said that Izone came from a popular show, and that's why la Vie En rose got popular and clc singing it wouldn't have made clc popular. Izone came from a popular show, so singing basically any song if not la vie en rose, izone would still be go popular as a group. It's the show. Not the song

[@soft4taeng]

Exactly, this is how things work and it's just so easy to understand but some people really have no braincells

[@terra9074]

@@soft4taeng I love CLC with all my heart, but like people just don't understand anything

[@fearlesshq_]

if you disclose documents in a ongoing court process you can't use them in court. Source music litterly stated she is innocent but people attacked them and said they are protecting a bully. stans are just ruthless

[@breakthewall.mp3126]

I think that La vie en rose wouldn't have necessarily "flopped" if CLC sang it, but it certainly wouldn't have been as popular as it is. Maybe on the level of Hobgoblin or Me, depends on the MV, choreo and styling. And most importantly, it wouldn't have changed how cube treats the group

[@soft4taeng]

Yes i mean, it wouldn't have LITERALLY flopped, but it would have never done even half as well as it did with izone...also it seems like people only really hyped clc's girl crush concepts, so i don't even think la vie en rose would have been on the level of Hobgoblin, Me and Helicopter. But like you said, nothing could have changed the way Cube completely mismanaged the group

[@holly8334]

I don’t understand the hate with Garam? Everyone attacked HYBE because they said she was innocent, and so they kicked her out bc the general public was condemning her and the group. (So the company finally listened to the views of the people, because everyone always says that company never listens to the overwhelming opinion anyway) But now that she’s actually proven innocent, everyone is attacking HYBE for not defending her? Make it make sense

[@soft4taeng]

I mean, people switched sides, you're right about that, but this happened because hybe handled the whole thing terribly. They didn't provide solid evidence of her innocence and it makes sense thinking that some stans might have thought she was guilty. Anyway hybe should have defended her but they dropped her like it was nothing and this is definitely not something a good company should do

[@thngvbts5182]

@@soft4taeng they did. They said the exact same thing as garam and even explain why didn’t publish all the documents

[@joonahbonsai9833]

@@thngvbts5182 they just love to hate hybe so it doesnt matter what the outcome is, hybe is the villain in kpop stans' minds

[@notjjuni]

Kim Garam's image was already destroyed beyond repair for her to bounce back in a short time even if her name had been "cleared". LeSse was still promoting and I guess their group image was more important than one single member's, especially when you think about Chaewon and Sakura being the people they are. I don't care whether she was innocent or guilty over petty middle school drama or however many apologies she deserves now, but from a business perspective (which is what Hybe is, people) I don't see why they've would've defended her to the grave when she debuted barely 2 weeks before the news got big. It doesn't make sense for Hybe to waste resources for a rookie who they could just get rid of, so they did exactly that. Hybe made their choice and therefore also made their priorities clear. The team far outweighed the individual.

[@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067]

Waste resources ? Don’t u understand that she’s human ? They destroyed her reputation now no company or any job would accept her ! Reputation is very important In Asia it’s the reason behind all your success 🤦🏻‍♀️ stop being biased just cause Chaewon and Sakura are there … Garam trained there for 2 years while Sakura and Chaewon just joined in less than 3-4 months so ofc The priority Goes to Garam she’s their real trainee so you suggest they ignore her and let her life and mentality get destroyed for them? That’s so immature of you to say .. plus HYBE would have to face a lot of consequences for doing this to Garam they take children and minors life seriously they’re a country with law .. have some empathy would you 🙄 no matter if they actually did what u said or not ITS WRONG! CLEARLY WRONG! They risked her whole life like this .. you can’t justify them or bring up Sakura and Chaewon bruh ..

[@thngvbts5182]

@@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067 hybe didn’t destroy her reputation, it was the publics that did. Hybe was going to take legal action because as you said there were minors involved.

[@CaitlynSlays4U]

Idk if people noticed but hasn’t Chaewon been kinda sad lately? Like when Garam was in the group she was happy and now that she’s kicked out whenever they do group stuff she’s always just standing alone. Idk if it’s just me.

[@superealmai]

EXACTLY

[@mybaelam]

“Waste resources” what are you even talking about atp

[@xokissy]

I agree like nmixx will be successful but just saying that they will be the only jyp gg to not win an award will put a lot of pressure on them as hell

[@Anjan_-]

I agree

[@lovyoi]

I feel so bad for garam if I was canceled because of something embarrassing I did in middle school I would probably step off of a bridge

[@jacki8106]

I agreed with all of your points. They were also things i never heard before! So creative!

[@listeningtosumin]

I feel so bad for Garam. There were so many ppl on TikTok making fun of Garam for being kicked out. Literally so disgusting

[@sky_aiko]

YOU JUST MADE MY DAY 10X BETTERRR

[@lana.solovei]

I'm agree with almost all of things you said, everything is just on point.

[@kaleidoscopekingdom]

The soojin and Kim garam situations are so wack to me and home girl leaving weekly is Killin me foreal

[@hqntasxland0325]

I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS! ♡

[@zenz_bro]

For the first one, I IMMEDIATELY thought of Twice 👁👁

[@someone0325.]

People are saying how ive and le sserafim shouldn't get nominated for roty award because they have 2 members who debuted. Be fr now they won't be saying these things if ive and le sserafim flopped like other post-produce group

[@soft4taeng]

Some people have lost all of their braincells and sadly there's nothing we can do about it...ive and le sserafim will always stay successful and relevant

[@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067]

I feel like it’s not HYBE in general.. it’s definitely SMusic they already have history with mistreating Gfriend and according to Garam They had the report and all the evidences her and her friend uploaded after getting kicked but they never used it so idk how will they explain this now ? And I definitely don’t think it’s a Set up ! But It seems like they definitely took that card to use her after witnessing the attention the group started getting cause of her scandal and also because Garam herself was shocked that they didn’t use the evidence which means they could’ve have changed their plans after she debuted but not before it but as you said it’s all just conspiracy theory and we will never know what goes in behind the scenes and the real story .. even Garam herself seems to be clueless

[@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067]

0:45 there are groups where certain members who Don’t get fair lines when they clearly can sing better than the others who are actually getting more lines and literally some groups who have foreign that’s just started out with Korean and still get more lines than the ones who are fluent but people ignore all that and call the ones who get the least lines untalented and I just wanna say I love how you call them out with facts😭 you’re probably the only channel that does their research and doesn’t speak biased info

[@genesisfunes7551]

Seriously jeongyeon has an amazing voice and is stable and she has so few lines

[@arisataiga6473]

It‘s so interesting that standards in society are so low that as you pointed it out, people get praised for not behaving inappropriately

[@jeonyuna20.26]

Ive gonna win no matter what, they are so succesfull, just a reminde that love dive returne after a month to win over nayeon in a music show like wtf

[@soft4taeng]

Love dive is a FIGHTER, at this point she will never leave the charts

[@iasked9392]

Kakao hon

[@sakura1289]

Idk how people can srsly still hateon garam. SHE IS STILL A MINOR! And srsly hybe is no longer thr freedom giving company its a disaster. I love garam she deserves an apology but at first i was also believed shes guilty but now i have been proved wrong. I hope shes doing okay

[@iasked9392]

Hybe is just doin promotion/representative for all the agencies its' under. The managing team is still the respective agency, that meant from the clothes, to the music the artist produce, to tours, to announcement and etc. Why is it hybe's fault? They said what garam said, defended her on court PRIVATELY (garam could only released the documents after she was let go, because it was an ongoing court trial), still kept her for the duration of the scandal. If you as a company is going to please the PUBLIC (which is always the villain in all of these types of scandal, but also your BIGGEST consumers), letting go of garam was a wise choice (though brutal for the individual) for the WHOLE group. Whether or not garam was proven innocent, the public already has their own biased perception towards garam and the group and they wouldn't change their minds that easily. They would be harassed every day until their last days. So never bully celebrities online kids, they are still human no matter how perfect they present themselves.

[@affanwi]

the first opinion reminded me so much of shuhua's lines for hwaa lmao

[@mochiyeosang1908]

Shuhua has 12 seconds of lines though... thats barely less than Soojin.

[@Cloudkirb]

@@mochiyeosang1908 yea but it was only 2 repetitive things.

[@mochiyeosang1908]

@@Cloudkirb all of Kihyun's lines for Alligator and Shoot Out are repetitive as fuck but he still gets by far the most lines, so???? Do they also not count?

[@gettingcalledoutontwitteri1882]

How do we solve bullying ? Kpop stans: by bullying minors worse But lets make excuses when we see male idols being rude to others and call it a joke. And also, i do agree that fans have such low standards. They will call idols all rounders and aces for being bellow average at everything . So apparently that means we are all aces. But dont you dare not accept a bare minimum and dont you dare have high standards, and dont you dare you would do it better than them I just love how when i stated that shipping makes it harder for them to come out and all of them down voted me. But like,think about it for a second. Imagine being gay, and someone using your sexuality as a way to earn money and others dehumanizing you just bc they hate women so much . I know it would be hard for me to come out. Some of my friends still didnt come out. Or they came out and some of their parents didnt support them. People in my country literally act as if its a crime to be gay. I am ripping threads for the community and i will do it in my sleep . They helped me more than straight people ever did. And as if it comes to mental health, do not dare to ever express your hurt, because performative activists in the fandom will gaslight you.

[@soft4taeng]

Totally agree on the shipping thing, also being lgbt and being in a group full of attractive members while having to hide your sexuality is hard enough, but it gets even worse if you're being shipped with them in a romantic way by the whole fandom...it must be terrible if you're an idol who is actually lgbt, not to mention if the company is using your sexuality for profit like you said

[@gettingcalledoutontwitteri1882]

@@soft4taeng Yeah, exactly ... they just want their idols to be straight so bad ... but then they bash women... i wonder where all those "allies" leave when people like Holland, Marshall, Maman, Lady, Aquarine(smth like that), Killian and so many come out ... they felt so alone, it breaks my heart. There is a gay group that doesnt show their faces which i understand ... Hansol from topp dogg is asexual/aromantic and he dealt with mental health issues... Ik there is a woman that is bi, and another woman that is bi was a bully before ... also, i think harisu(she was in mercury , or han chongbin smth like that was) Taeyong cousin is gay, sadly a valleyball player took his own life bc ppl harassed him for "being gay" and taeyongs cousin broke down The confident allies i can say that are Jonghyun, RM, V, onlyoneof, seori, hongjoong, Yuta, Kevin, Tiffany, Bang Chan, a member from secret has a song about lgbtqia, like 2pm/2am guy who is the part of community i believe , also group sistar, i believe btob & monsta x are too, nell posted a painful song about a gay guy who took his own life while he was gay :/ there is a singer that has a mv with an actress that lost her battle to depression Wish fans would actually care about lgbtqia, there was a trans in military that took their own life

[@KM10HM12]

1. This if 100% facts. This is why I can’t justify Lisa getting less lines. Lisa can literally speak perfect Korean. It’s feels like the fandom and the label have an agenda against her.

[@suaAaAaA]

Lisa gets good lines

[@genesisfunes7551]

What songs? The ones I've seen have decent lines for her, she's lead rapper not main so getting less than jennie for example who's a main rapper and lead vocal, and rose who's a main vocal, Lisa second or third place in lines makes complete sense

[@jisooschikin2514]

C’mon jenlisa got more lines than the main vocalist itself what else do you want?

[@nattyism]

have you listened to a single blackpink song? 9/10 lisa gets the most lines in blackpink songs

[@suaAaAaA]

@@genesisfunes7551 she gets more than decent lines too much at times

[@KM10HM12]

NMIXX is literally on the road to be icons and they don’t even need roty for that.

[@Eunwoo29409]

I don’t care about fair line distribution until it sounds good

[@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067]

3:38 U NEED TO BE THE OFFICIAL KPOP NEWS FOR REAL! Everything you say is so true and logical rather than extremely hateful or unnecessary.. you’re literally speaking facts just facts! I love the girls and their talents like they’re super unique but I can’t just sugar coat what the company does ..many people till this day still believe it’s not what it seems but the song screams 🤦🏻‍♀️ maybe that wasn’t their intentions to make the song that way but before they bought it they should’ve done their research of it’s meaning cause no matter how much they tried to change it and make it sound innocent it’s just not enough

[@soft4taeng]

You said that maybe it wasn't the company's intention but i actually think they totally knew what they were doing, it's just that they didn't think it would have caused such a big controversy. Anyway i refuse to believe those lyrics talked about actual cookies, there's no way.

[@sayakasbiggeststan3941]

@@soft4taeng BRO IF IT WAS ABOUT ACTUAL COOKIES PEOPLE ARE GONNA LAUGH AT THEM 💀 but if it was about..... No..

[@andreastrozewski1759]

also with the la vie en rose situation, it wouldn’t go well with clc because its not the girl crush concept that their more popular songs are. i do doubt that izone would’ve done as well with clc song for their debut tho. la vie en rose was the perfect concept for them all and thats also why it did so well on top of them already being so highly anticipated

[@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067]

For real they need to apologize to Garam after everything thing they did and said about her According to Garam SMusic had the report that she posted and many other evidences they sent but they never used it .. Garam and her friend uploaded everything they sent

[@daychild_]

agree soo much with rhe line distribution thing, soul literally got 0 LINES in doom du doom and everyone in the comments were like “it’s ok he’s not comfortable in korean yet!1!!1” like he’s barely been getting any lines and it’s been 2 years since p1harmony’s debut i think MAYBE it’s about time he actually started getting decent lines???

[@thngvbts5182]

Hybe literally made a statement stating the same thing as garam has done now. The reason why they didn’t post the document was because they wanted to take legal actions, as they stated multiple times. And please no one would have believe them no matter what, the public had settled on an opinion and run with it. The supposed victim had posted very untrustworthy proofs and yet people insulted and attacked anyone that didn’t believe them. And finally it was the public that wanted garam out, when hybe let her stay the public complained and after month they finally let her go the public complains. Hybe could have moved better but they didn’t do much wrong other than following the correct legal procedure for a case with minors in it. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that was garam herself to wish to leave, y’all insulted and BULLIED her to an astronomical level. Blaming Hybe won’t take away your guilt of cyberbulling a 16 year’s old out of her dream career. I hope hybe will learn from this and do better, but I hope even more that y’all will take a look in the mirror and have a bath of conscience. (The y’all is to the general public not to the person making this video)

[@kimjennieisqueenjennie2156]

Peoples are still Hating Garam on online. now imagine what she is facing in Reality. I don't know how she is feeling but I hope she is okay and Strong ❤️❤️❤️

[@galsvsbros]

Garam definitely deserves better. She is too good for Hybe and her haters. She's only a teen and had to face the hate she was getting when it wasn't even conformed.

[@momomomo__]

as a bi girl who was outed in high school, the queerbating thing makes me so angry, these are real people, not fictional character. queer bating is used to describe shows where characters act like they're queer, and the show portays them us such, but they either never say they are, or deny it at the end. it's meant to get queer people to watch these shows, without the risk of actually putting queer characters in their shows. idols are real people, not characters where we can have headcannons or speculate about their sexuality. these are people, and whether we like it or not, they don't owe us their sexuality. idols acting comfortable around each other, and doing "couple things" isn't queerbating, it's either just fanservice, or normal interactions from members who are very close, and i've seen too many close idols growing apart because of the way fans shipped them to take any more of this bullshit. the fans constantly sexualizing normal interactions between friends, or trying to figure out their sexuality is the problem, not the way idols act in this regard. sure, it's fanservice and it can be seen as pandering, however we don't get to say that they're pretending to be queer for views, because that's so fucking harmful. korea isn't friendly towards queer people, and their careers would most likely be ruined if they ever came out, so the queerbating acusations would be worse for their career, and companies would force them to stop acting that way. we don't know the groups' dynamics behind the screen, and we also don't know their sexuality, so they may be queer and we'll never know. and that possibility makes me even angrier. i can't imagine being queer in a group, not wanting to come out, since it would wreck my career, and having fans both constantly calling me gay, or having them tell me that im a horrible person for acting a certain way without wanting to come out. and if that's the case, imagine beeing queer and having people bully you because you act "too gay" around your friends. it's just plain disgusting, and i just wish people would stop treating idols like characters on a screen that have no feelings or lives of their own.

[@observer5427]

By no means do I want to defend hybe, which is a business corporation with profit being it's highest priority. But just to be fair and objective, they were saying the exact same thing as Garam did later, in her defense, after the supposed victim caused public outcry. They just said that they would present witnesses and evidence in court. But given how irrational the gp and kpop fans were acting at the time, unwilling to even hear them out, after months of huge negative public opinion and pressure, they terminated her contract, probably for the sake of rest of the group. And now, somehow they are the biggest villain? Not the netizens or the fans or the gp or even the supposed victim who started this very public villification?!?

[@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067]

🤌✨ Kindness and manners are dying day by day so I understand why people find it so wonderful and unbelievable when people see a decent human being… According to the timing we’re living there aren’t many good people anymore … so we need to praise them to spread the good influence so that it doesn’t die .. personally I do praise them too on purpose even tho it’s basic human manners to be nice and decent 💀 but only because I know if we don’t praise them the world might lose irate empathy completely.. so praising humans for doing good things even if they’re basic isn’t really a questionable thing .. we need to inspire as many people as possible to be good … I still remember when my sister simply opened a door for a girl that was trying to get Inside a certain room and that girl looked at her with starts in her eyes as if no one has ever been decent and kind towards her not once in her life despite it just being basic manners… it’s actually super sad and demotivating that the time we live in lacks all those basic simple needs… we need to point out the good in people and praise them yes! But not exaggerate it and treat them like Gods so they stay humble and continue to do good and know their place I actually support the praise but they need to do it In the right way for the right people .. like for example there are people who do really bad things but once In a while they do decent human action and get praised for it a lot and forget about the bad ..l like are you just gonna ignore the fact that he wasn’t intending on being kind or anything? Call them out for the bad that they did before praising them and if they improved you can praise them so they stay decent Meanwhile you have the innocent people who have done no harm .. those you can praise healthily so that they continue to want to be even better and actually reach a level higher than a decent human being and so that one day they’ll be able to influence others to be the same and the world could have more good % in it

[@divinegabriel669]

I love the way you are so real....... 🤣

[@superealmai]

is garam was put out the group before the debut things would have been sm better

[@KookiesNolly]

I'm gonna have to *hard disagree* on the opinion about Hybe and the Garam situation because it is straight up not even based on Facts. A lot of y'all are almost doing revisionism on this case that is barely 4 months old. There was pretty much nothing new in the full report. Somu had already issued a statement with all that info before having her go on hiatus, and in that statement, they mentionned they were taking legal actions with the law firm and had classmates of Garam who could testify, but since this was very sensitive, involved children, and was already the subject of a legal procedure, they were not going to show off evidence just yet which makes sense (especially when the story includes what is very much the production and distribution of CP). I remember what happened then : pretty much nobody read that statement. Lots of kpop fans were sharing blatant misinformation about that statement that just showed they never read it. *If you did you would've known that they were telling everything that was in the report* . Garam is only able to share those documents herself now bc Hybe dropped the case. And y'all can say nobody believed it bc they couldn't include the evidence but how much do y'all even understand those evidence when clearly doctored pictures had y'all saying a lollipop is a cigarette? Or how y'all saw a cropped picture of an uncertified document that didn't even have the word "bullying" in it and concluded it was undiniable proof that Garam bullied the girl, just cause her name was on it? That girl very clearly chose to hide parts of the document that painted her in a bad light (as we saw with the full report) and it was easy to suspect yet none of the people spewing hate even considered that for a moment. Name on a paper, written in korean = absolute proof we gotta bully this girl. Be serious. What frustrates me the most about this whole ordeal is that, as always, kpop stans deflect all responsibility on the companies without taking two seconds to reflect on how they contributed to the issue. SomU was cornered by fans who simply refused to believe anything they said. I don't believe that they did everything right and i don't believe that simply dropping her was ethical of them, but let's stop acting as if this wasn't the most logical outcome given how the public was behaving. Y'all are not gonna rewrite history here. The hate was misinformed and unrelenting. *Had the public been rational and actually read anything, it wouldn't have taken such proportions and y'all wouldn't be acting now like you're just learning shit that was published in May* . People just wanted a reason to hate her, that's it. Regardless of how unfounded many of the claims about her were, regardless of how the only actual victim accusing her never said or provided any evidence of her being physically abusive, people went with the wildest, most damning interpretations possible. You could say that this always happens with scandals, but at some point *it stops being the companies fault that people just refuse to read or use their brains* . The sad truth is people found it entertaining to hate on Garam, that's why they joined the bandwagon and discarded all logic and common sense. Now the bandwagon says "protect Garam and hate on Hybe" so they do that. *Many, MANY of y'all are incapable of thinking for themselves* and that's why these "scandals" keep happening and taking such massive proportions. And bc the sheep-mentality of kpop fans is well-known by now, lots of bad faith actors stir up lies or turn morally grey situations into horrific tales to ruin people and stans become complicit in all that. What happened to Garam is the public's fault, before it's SoMu's. Who is holding them accountable for bullying a teenager ?

[@skdoremi6666]

am tired of the garam situation......the company did release statement,they did have proof,they were available in korean platforms,they were also available in twitter , people did defend her in Korea,no matter how much they explained knetz and antis just didn't want to stop bullying her. many ssera fans were under big acc who did discuss her situation even clearing some informations but ssera fans in korean begged and kept sending emails to soumu to dismiss her even if she was proven innocent! for them her reputation did damage ssera debut and antis would never stop dragging them and they would be fighting and explaining the situation every cb, ssera stan in Korea explained that it would be hard to attract more new fans if every time antis will bring her alleged bullying, they were sorry for her but they chose ssera activities over her own image,they didn't want to keep defending her , they knew any time she would have done something questionable antis will attack her and team again proven their points. hybe and soumu were the bigger person here, they didn't want minors to be dragged on sns,they were in the process of suing that girl and her friends, but they couldn't go agai St the core fans of the fans who begged to remove her,even the international ssera stan wanted her out. garam situation is a Korean problem, it's not about clearing names or proving innocence it's about reputation! antis didn't care about our explanations ,they accused hitman of having sex with her! we really need to stop accusing companies every time sh*t like this happens, it's US the kpop stan that r damaging them!! soojin from idle was the same, knetz didn't want her it's not cube ! she was the most popular in idle,cube had more interest keeping her than throwing her but korean r not like us international,they boycott the group entirely if they don't get what they want,after all they r the ones who spend money. garam was a premeditated slander, someone just didn't want hybe gg to good like their bg, it just a political game between companies, every negative post had huge amount of likes ,its was organised and well done. they just didn't expect new jeans popularity......

[@saanu_uuuuuuu]

I just wish that they handled the garam situation privately like garam was still so young and those people just ruined her career only in a couple weeks. Im disappointed in Hybe very disappointed. And im not saying Garam wasnt guilty and im not saying she was either. I just feel bad for her and whether u like her or not, she has talent.

[@astaristare]

I was always on garams side and seeing the hate she got made me loose even more faith in humanity with people celebrating her forced leave made me cry I hope she’s better now

[@_z1pporah]

The x1 remark: so true Kim garam: Let’s be honest… unless it’s a boy group (especially there very if they are very popular from the start) hybe will be so quick to defend.. This is why hybe and girl groups is not a match.. SMH Shippers: FR THEY NEED HELP

[@superealmai]

I rlly think garam deserves an apology, but taking her out of le sserafim was the best thing for her and the group, if she wasn't removed the massive hate among her and the group would only get worst cuz knetz had already decided they didn't like her and that having her in the group was bad, maybe if she wasn't kicked out by hybe all the girls would have had to gave up their dreams bc the group would have been so hated bc of her that they would have to disband, even trough she's proven innocent, her image was already bad for koreans since the beginning, and it was making the group's image being ruined, is you see their pre orders at this new cb w/o garam, koreans are rlly into them now that she left, it was the best thing for her and for the other 5 girls in the group

[@tjekker4274]

"Please get some water because i dont want yall to choke" *chokes on water"

[@deepalnahar7681]

These pills were the right pills that needed to be swallowed, like the Kim gram situation shocked me so much and it still feels so unfair and wrong

[@chenlery]

about the x1 section (at around 5mins if anyone wants to rewatch) i have a theory that i just came up with on the spot. what if. x1 is the reason that bgs flopped. i got into kpop when they were disbandng so i hwve no idea what rhe kpop scene was like before them BUT. MY THEORY IS vote manipulation leaked, they disband > companies rush their debuts to utilise the scraps of mnet clout > theyre mediocre and resort to that same sound > everyone thinks bgs are boring booo > they flop HARDER. for my economics babes out there, tis external diseconomies of scales for the kpop boy group industry!!! i was also a decently frequent watcher of edward avila, and idk how he got so many nugu boy groups doing the sameish gameshow content. a lot of them werent super entertaining tbh so that didnt help with the impression of bgs 💀 i wonder if that was more influential than j thought?!! also bae173 was there too i think and it was Kinda sad. hangyul my boy you deserved more clout 💔 plus the groups are ridiculously big and i think most people would feel bad if they kinda solo stanned the x1 members but akso werent prepared to learn a dozen names so 🤷 edit: HAHAJSJS I CLICKED ON THE VIDEO TO CONTINUE AND YOU SAID THE SAME THING we experienced it tgt!!!!???

[@haewonized]

Ok yea pristin won roty and their career didn’t really happen… but I fully believe that if they were under any other company they’d be a top group rn

[@soft4taeng]

Absolutely, Pledis is literally awful and to this day we still don't even know what the real reason behind the disbandment was.

[@haewonized]

3:30 wow!!! This idol is soooo good because they’re not a murderer 😻😻 let’s praise them guys stan this idol 😻👍

[@someonehaha77777]

I love your videos because I can always agree with what you're saying and even if I dont 100% agree I can see where you're coming from, but your point about queerbaiting made me like you even more because FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT As a lyon (onlyoneofs fanbase name) I have to see all this comments about how they're supposedly "queerbaiting" all the damn time and it's extremely annoying and tiring. Queerbaiting is a big issue in kpop, yes, and actual acceptance of the lgbtq+ is just as much of an issue, not only in kpop but south korea in it's entirety. The fact that finally a group decided to step up and tackle this topic in their mvs respectfully through geninually good representation (I'm saying this as a bi dude) is very brave and I might even dare to say that it's just what we need so that the k-industry and maybe even the country itself becomes more accepting and respects the lgbtq+ community more. People not bothering to check wether something is queerbaiting or representation and just blalantly accusing anyone and anything that might be percived as gay as being queerbaiting is only causing more problems Sorry if the way I put this is kinda odd, english isnt my first language

[@soft4taeng]

In the beginning i also thought onlyoneof were queerbaiting, but looking more into their concept, music and videos i realized i was wrong. I'm glad they have this kind of concept, it might mean a lot to some lgbt stans who will feel more represented and it definitely contributes to normalizing such topics in a conservative country like South Korea.

[@someonehaha77777]

@@soft4taeng exactly!

[@krishimehta7857]

the entire idol industry does not really care for their artists individually and HYBE should be included. Back when HYBE was BigHit, they continously forced BTS' Jimin to diet even though it was not necessary, that should be a glaring example of companies not giving a shit for their assets unless those assets create profit. That's how a business is. Ofcourse, there are more important assets than others, one that generates more profit is deemed more important in business, so, IF SAKURA OR CHAEWON had a scandal similar to Garam, I think HYBE would have defended them due to their immense popularity, thus, more money for the company. It was always a loss for Garam. She did not have early, pre-debut success, unlike Yujin. Businesses, especially those that are labour-intensive, such as agencies, should never lose their morality. However, they have. And they, hopefully, will realise how much they have destroyed a teenage girl's life. But profit is profit, it not only gives HYBE executives money, but also their employees and other investment opportunities. Garam had to be let go, it was the least cost-consequence desicion.

[@sur_un_nuage]

idk if clc’s la vie en rose would’ve flopped but i think it wouldn’t have been as popular but also it’s not a reach to think it could’ve been their breakthrough song

[@soft4taeng]

i'm not sure if la vie en rose could have been their breakthrough song...people seemed to only care about clc's girl crush concept and sound, so i think their most popular songs would have still been hobgoblin and helicopter, but who knows...

[@PiplupFritzMickeyMouseBambito]

2:25 As a fan of CLC I totally agree

[@jeonyuna20.26]

Don't think too much about your videos title, just name it KPOP FACTS cuz you'r right👍

[@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067]

10:18 no but because they’re not humans and eye contact is forbidden for those who aren’t in a relationship 🌚😂 and yes it would be so uncomfortable if they ship me with my friends .. like I could could say this “ MY BABY U SO BEAUTIFUL” to best friend but that doesn’t mean I’m addressing her as a romantic lover like it’s just something this generation made up to address someone who is closer than a best friend if you understand what I mean But imagine someone else coming and shipping you that way for the bare Minimum interactions even when you yourself don’t view such words as “ romantic affection” like it’s just out of place and uncomfortable.. It’s okay to ship them as an affectionate bestie duo but not in a romantic way LIKE STOP! It’s isn’t to say Awwwww “a certain ship” friendship is so cute I love how their so caring and considerate towards each other but going like “a certain ship” NOT IN FRONT OF THE KIDS! Like wtf ? 🙂

[@herseykcameron7013]

shipping is the so disturbing especially the same group like what if one is homophobic were other is lgbtq it would be so hard on them

[@melaniekuijpers1715]

If only HYBE handled Garam’s case like IST did with that former ATBO member she for starters wouldn’t have suffered so much hate and bullying and she could still have an actual chance. I really hope she is doing well after everything and hasn’t given up on her dream.

[@iasked9392]

The public bullied garam out of hybe. For hybe, it was the sake of one member or the group. Especially since it was a newly debuted group.

[@LemonRose59]

The praising the idol for doing the bare minimum is so true. Omg i'm sure fans would praise idols for farting too. Lol

[@69hehefunny]

Tp be honest, I've never really cared about idols being praised for the bare minimum. Like, I know they're just being decent humans but I think there's nothing wrong with praising someone when they do something good no matter how small it is. As long as its not unnecessary hating, unnecessary praising is fine by me.

[@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067]

CLC Would’ve did a great job with la vie en rose buts let’s be honest … it doesn’t suit their concept and baddie vibes .. they would’ve probably made to so different.. and like it’s not Like Iz*one asked the company to give them the song .. the members have nothing to do with it and plus Cube Ent didn’t sell it for nothing? They probably knew it wouldn’t work with CLC so they sold it .. why are y’all acting as if Wake1 is a mafia that stole it

[@wslaysn]

HEAVY on the praising part!! people were praising hybe for having a black guy in in the hype boy minju version mv as if they singlehandedly ended racism... thats literally nothing

[@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067]

WHAT ? Wait .. Kep1er won the Roty in K Global heart dream awards it happened yesterday or before yesterday

[@soft4taeng]

yes i'm aware, i was mostly referring to the MAMA roty though, because it's basically the roty award everybody is super obsessed with

[@cinnamaricat]

i did believe garam was guilty bc of the lack of evidence from hybe it was serenes (garam's fandom) who proved she's innocent to me so i thought she cursed at eunseo but then garam posted the full document which showed she didn't even curse at eunseo either she just said she was fucking speechless i'm not forgiving hybe for what they did to her and i'm not forgiving antis who refused and still refuse to look at the evidence from both sides before they say shit

[@piinkbowz]

I started this account yesterday but uses ur account for tips! Do u have any for me to use as u seem to have a lot of views!

[@soft4taeng]

well, some simple tips are making eye catching thumbnails that will definitely make people wanna click and also trying to give your videos some interesting titles that will make them stand out a bit more, however there isn't necessarily one specific way, sometimes a video just blows up by chance... anyway good luck with your channel!!

[@piinkbowz]

@@soft4taeng tysm! This will be rlly helpful

[@piinkbowz]

@@soft4taeng also is the thumbnail for my vid okay or does it need anything else?

[@soft4taeng]

@@piinkbowz It's good, but maybe you could try to make the text more visible for your future thumbnails. You can either use a thicker font or use a picture with a more plain background that will make the text stand out more

[@_haileyva_5024]

It's so funny that the entire line distribution has loona in that background that is know for unfair lines. For example high hi will always be my least favorite loona song because I can't get past the 0,71s of lines that a member has in it.

[@yvy.830]

1) line distributions - we dont know how the idols feel about it, so i dont think we really have room to judge what the company is doing wrong 2) clc not doing la vie en rose - i feel like la vie en rose didnt really suit clc concept, pepe didnt much either tbh, but its a shame they recorded it and everything 3) praising companies/idols - yes but i feel like being known for that might encourage other companies to actually do the bare minimum, some of them cant even do that 4) x1 - dont have a clue who they are/not really into boy groups 5) queerbaiting - yes same im bi :)) but labelling everything as queerbaiting is unhealthy because firstly they might be gay or show that theyre allys, not to show that theyre trying to look gay or something 6) hybe mustve had the full report because garam couldve easily given it to them, they really messed up there. not to compare with soojin but i thought theyd be better than cube, which they appeared like they would be but again they just said theyd take legal action and it just never happened 7) roty - i feel like roty just means that theyre popular as rookies, peoples music taste changes and they cant be expected to get similar awards like soty n all cuz within like 3 years their concept might change n stuff 8) shipping - i feel like platonic soulmate shipping is borderline okay? yk like soojin and shuhua are super close n stuff but romantic shipping what?? im gonna use jennie and v as an example but they literally could just be getting closer as friends/ planning a collab or something not every meeting between idols is a relationship pls- have a great day :))

[@soft4taeng]

platonic shipping is obviously fine, if two idols are very close it's normal for people to start liking their friendship and finding them cute, but romantic shippers are so delusional, and don't even get me started on the jennie and v situation... anyway, i hope you have a great day as well!!

[@eud4emonia]

I swear to all shippers... If you actually wanna see some nice romantic ships in kpop look at hyuna and dawn😟

[@nslylm]

I've always stayed neutral about the garam situation and it actually breaks my heart to see that Hybe kicked her out like it's nothing. As if they flicked a bug off their sleeves. She's still young and her reputation is literally shattered. Ffs the whole country probably knows about the situation by now, how the hell is this poor girl supposed to have a successful career ? Her life is literally RUINED and kpop stans contributed to that. Disgusting

[@soft4taeng]

Sometimes i wonder how will she get a job if everyone knows her and thinks of her as a criminal? At this point there is no way she can continue in the entertainment industry, and if that was her dream then i'm really sorry, because like you said, her reputation is shattered completely

[@louieya9190]

X1 though:(

[@Newgirl001]

HYBE and Bighit are not the same (yes they are the same but I mean with how they handle things)

[@iasked9392]

Yes, hybe is the like the promotional manager for all the agency under it. And bighit is the talent manager. But it seems like people dont know the difference.

[@haewonized]

Idol: looks at book OMG GUYS THE IDOL IS DATING THE BOOK OMG THEYRE GETTING MSRRIED TMRW 🙀🙀 WEOWWWW

[@AngelicAuraX]

Bring back Garam. She got removed cuz of excessive hate. Keep in mind she was only 15!!!!!!!!

[@ioutsoldurfavs]

She was 17 💀

[@AngelicAuraX]

@@ioutsoldurfavs No she wasn’t. Rn she is 17 or 16

[@ioutsoldurfavs]

@@AngelicAuraX she was born in 2005 that’s makes her 18 now turning 19 💀she was 16 - 17 when the whole scandal happened

[@AngelicAuraX]

@@ioutsoldurfavs oh ok whatever

[@daychild_]

i hate shippers too they’re so weird😭😭😭

[@dzrmgkva]

I think sadly garam won't get an apology, at the best case she'll come back in few years. Also mb it's valid that it's weird that we as fans fell in love with her only in several weeks. But she didn't deserve that level of cruellnes and public punishment either, even if she'd kick sh$tt out of eunsoo

[@madison7558]

gosh what im about to say is so pointless but ima say it anyways there is no "big 4" hybe did NOTHING for kpop throughout 2nf/3rd gen, sm jyp and yg is the big 3 that's it.

[@Slime_cl0ck]

Praising a man is kind of exceptional. You know because so many men nowadays don’t have manners. Women can’t expect anything from them other from them to be polite. Lol, I don’t think you understand how common and rare human decency can be. Staring at women has always been a problem so even though it’s something common you shouldn’t do people will still do it. That’s why we praise them.

[@VergilEdits]

Is Garam actually innocent ?

[@hannaansari2921]

Use your damn brain,she was 12 years old when that happened,it was a spat between two groups of kids in school,how is that bullying and how does bullying, defaming and name calling 16 year old for that is okay?how does destroying her hard earned career for that is okay?this is witch hunting not justice

[@huhjoohyun2367]

Quite questionable, in Yoo Eunseo's situation she is indeed not guilty, and she posted the whole doument in IG, she was just defending her friend after Eunseo took a pic of her friend in her underwear and then posted it without that girl's consent. Even the lawyers that worked for Yoo Eunseo have a bad reputation in Korea for defending r4pists and p3dophiles, helping them to have little to no time in prision, those lawyers just care about money, and dont care for how much damage the would cause to the actual vicitims. But Garam still has very suspicious friends, her 05 friends post pics smoking and drinking, for korean culture, smoking and drinking as a minor is like a taboo, only "iljins" are the ones who do that ( a term for studens who are dominant among other students through bullying and almost all iljins are wild teens who go against social and cultural rules, even using bullying as a way to rebel ) you can find out they are her friends if you search their "korean tellonyms", they went to her same school and they are all same age, they follow the facebook page of Garam's predebut dance group, and there is a tiktok of Garam with one those girls, she also lied saying she never was a BTS' fan (even if there is nothing wrong if she actaully is, she is only 16 and many young artists and trainees from Hybe are big fans of them too), she said she never smoked nor drinked but her friends she used to film tiktoks with did do all that, so I will still stay neutral even if this case already ended, but even if she actually bullied someone, we have no right to bully her too. Edit: the pic of the chalboard where someone wrote "IVE down, LE SSERAFIM up" wasnt from 2018, Izone literally debuted in 2018, that chalkboard isnt from SOPA either, it is from Garam's friends' highschool.

[@niseybear4161]

Let me explain it nicer than the first comment. In short, yes. The full documents came out and it turns out she didn’t bully or curse at anyone. She was more of a bystander/ onlooker and even reconciled with Eunseo privately as the whole thing went down, it wasn’t until the alleged victim, Yoo Eunseo, posted half naked pictures of one of Garam’s friends that she (Garam) started cursing Eunseo out. That ultimately lead to her getting a lvl5 and Eunseo a lvl 6 or 8 I believe. It’s important to note that this whole altercation happened 4 years ago and she was 12. There was no need for her to be punished twice

[@janiyah1036]

long story short yes

[@marilainedictan4851]

@@niseybear4161 I'm sorry but the difference between you and the first commenter is hysterical 🤣🤣🤣😭

[@breakthewall.mp3126]

Another song that's mentioned often in the conversation about queerbaiting is Monster by Irene and Seulgi. The novella that the song and the MV are based on is also kind of ambiguous about Carmilla and Laura's relationship. Ffs, it's written in 1800s, but Carmilla still explicitly tells Laura that she loves her and wouldn't love anyone but her. It gives the reader an impression that they will be together in the end, which empathizes the plot twist. Almost every MV scene makes sense with the book's plot, except the ending because it's slightly changed. So kpop stans really need to do their research before calling something like this queerbating. Because if one of the characters in the MV was a man instead of a woman, they wouldn't have had a problem. But somehow fictional queer couples (dating or not) need to strictly label their relationship. What do they want? A disclaimer like "The characters are not dating. One of them is a vampire that wants to suck the other's blood forever, and that's why she tries to seduce her"?

[@soft4taeng]

I knew that Monster was based on Carmilla, but i think that a lot of people think of the Monster mv as queerbaiting because of how it's presented. Some scenes look like they're just there to queer bait people and it might seem like there's not a plot at all, not to mention Seulgi and Irene have always been shipped by the whole fandom and obviously the company knew exactly what they were doing when they gave them this kind of concept. Obviously you would look at things in a different way if you knew the mv was based on Carmilla, but some people might not know and that's why they would just call it queerbaiting.

[@69hehefunny]

I'm glad I stayed neutral during Garams scandal and now that we're sure that she's innocent, words cannot describe how bad I feel for her. People ruined her career and now that it's over, we don't see anyone feeling guilty. I'm sure it hurt her fans as well (like me) to see so many people saying awful things about her. This kind of thing happens over and over again and people never learn their lesson. Haters were saying disgusting things about her being a heartless bully when they were heartlessly bullying her.

[@xx-en8uf]

is there proof that she’s innocent yet?

[@soft4taeng]

once she left the company she shared the school report which stated everything in detail and according to the report it seems she did what she did in order to defend a friend, so she's not the evil bully some people made her out to be

[@iasked9392]

She just cussed out the supposed victim because sv spread a photo of a mutual friend naked. Garam just defended her friend from a snake.

[@aa-pj4vz]

csr will win roty, trust me i work at mnet.

[@soft4taeng]

i trust you, csr are queens!

[@lussray2744]

Didn’t Kim Garam receive a level-5 punishment for her school bullying issue and it was confirmed. And that is a huge deal, so there IS something. I do agree in some parts, that the adults are responsible of how bad it was handled, BUT do not try the excuse that “she was a child”. How many of you are victims of childhood bullying and have traumas till this day.

[@kpopaddicttpsycho5331]

u are funny pls research about it

[@vivifree234]

But the „victim“ got a level-8 punishment for taking picture from Garams friend while she was half naked and posted on internet. Because she did this Garam cursed heavely on her which caused the 5-level punishment. I‘m not saying that that what Garam did was good, but the „victim“ has done worse things and I understand Garams reaction.

[@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067]

Do your research 💀 Eunsoo got an 8 degree Garams 5 degree was because she cussed her out for inappropriate pics

[@lussray2744]

@@vivifree234 Source please and not hearsay.

[@vivifree234]

@@lussray2744 I hope Links works.

[@Alejandra-lf7rc]

I mean why are u making this like it’s a problem? Idols, people, kids, etc can get praised with anything and it’s okay

[@Alejandra-lf7rc]

Bc fans like to praised the idols? There isn’t anything wrong with it.

[@ladyzebachi9365]

They aren't saying not to praise them. Just praise them for things that are actually praiseworthy. Also, the way some people praise is seriously weird. On a video relates to Blackpink's Pink Venom, a person stated that Blackpink are the oxygen that they breathe. Now I know that is more of a one-off situation but praise I do see a lot for idols is that without their favourite idol, they are dead or they're lives were rubbish or dark without them. Like dude, you (not directly you but all fans) were alive before you even knew they existed.

[@Alejandra-lf7rc]

@@ladyzebachi9365 I agree that those comments are so weird, but I think some of them are bots.

[@Alejandra-lf7rc]

@@ladyzebachi9365 I know what u mean, I guess some fans praised them too much.

[@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067]

That’s not what the person meant

[@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067]

@@ladyzebachi9365 I agree for some unnecessary comments but being physically alive doesn’t mean you’re soul is alive … u may never understand this but Some of us actually grew from these groups .. not all of us always had a stable life or a decent life ..I was bullied and physically abused by my own family and outside of it for a long time and super oppressed.. but I found a certain group that helped me gain confidence - self love and their music was so comforting because it speaks about our generation and our struggles .. I would see them act The same way I act when I’m being myself but the difference is I get called out for it and they don’t .. that gave me confidence in standing up for my rights .. also they made me go back to working on my dreams after my family destroying the last hope left in me .. they gave advices that I never received from my parents.. they changed my POV on life and showed good influence that helped me work on myself.. I had no one in real life to give me indirect or direct support.. no family no friends no one ! I used to get criticized and regarded for simply breathing .. I was a loner I would cry everyday and every night thinking that the problem is me and I always thought I needed major fixing and change in everything just to find out I’m living amongst people who don’t love themselves either so they project their insecurities and anger on me .. that group helped me find myself .. and after i found myself and started loving myself there was no one that showed any audacity to say anything disrespectful towards me because of the character development.. I used to still get mistreated but I kept standing up for myself and not staying quiet until one day they learned their lesson and gave up on being judgement now all my family are different people right now … the change that happened just because I accepted myself and gave my myself unconditional love that they failed to show … So I’m very much grateful for that group they made me realize my worth and self values .. I can go on about how terrible and traumatizing my life and childhood was and talk about how this group helped me breathe and finally feel like a living human soul and not just a living body .