Krag Jorgensen Run and Gun

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@Darryl_Francis
@Darryl_Francis 9 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, the Krag is one of the most beautiful rifles ever made.
@bigchunk1
@bigchunk1 8 жыл бұрын
+Lord Bryant (Grijnwaald) I like it more than most. Too bad it was made to be obsolete so quickly.
@FantadiRienzo
@FantadiRienzo 7 жыл бұрын
If the US army would have carried this rifle into WW1, the axis would have won. Just imagine loading this in a muddy trench.... Come on, this rifle sucks.
@jcbalesk777
@jcbalesk777 7 жыл бұрын
Sickend Sour ive owned this rifle for the last 25 years for hunting and i love it has a VERY smooth action. I put a 3-9x scope on it and it is accurate and a great deer round. The only problem i have is that ammo is NOT cheap at all and is hard to find.
@gmil1236
@gmil1236 7 жыл бұрын
Lord Bryant the's right
@cheekibreeki921
@cheekibreeki921 7 жыл бұрын
It was used in WWI by US also, just not as much as the '03 Springfield, nor the 1917 Enfield
@lefr33man
@lefr33man 9 жыл бұрын
so, you basically throw some rounds in there and let the gun sort that mess out ?
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 9 жыл бұрын
+lefr33man Lol, pretty much!
@flyinglunchbox
@flyinglunchbox 9 жыл бұрын
The Krag and Enfield are the fastest shooting bolt guns out there.
@stephaniegrodem8592
@stephaniegrodem8592 9 жыл бұрын
+TFB TV How do you feel about lasers on handguns? Like a .357? I put a laser on mine and i like it, some other people like it too, but some disagree.
@thelaughinghyenas7962
@thelaughinghyenas7962 9 жыл бұрын
+Tyler McCommon , I agree on the Enfield but not the Krag. Not after the gun is empty. The mad minute of 40 good aimed shots from an Enfield includes reloads.
@flyinglunchbox
@flyinglunchbox 9 жыл бұрын
I meant the action.
@Lieutenant_Dude
@Lieutenant_Dude 9 жыл бұрын
That honestly reloaded a lot better than I thought it would. You didn't have much fumbling around. Well done.
@tr4nsg0th1ca
@tr4nsg0th1ca 9 жыл бұрын
you're loading the rifle wrong... the neat thing about the krag's mag is that with practice you can dump a handful of cartridges into the loading gate, and the door will align the cartridges when you close it. that's how the norwegians reloaded their rifle. also, there was a speedloader made for the krag if you can find it.
@DC2007A
@DC2007A 9 жыл бұрын
Wont work with rimmed ammo dude. The 30-40 guns will get rim lock if you toss the cartridges in willy nilly.
@tr4nsg0th1ca
@tr4nsg0th1ca 9 жыл бұрын
huh.. never had a problem with my krag.
@hb9145
@hb9145 6 жыл бұрын
+AC Armory. Another reason why the (rimless) 6.5x55 should have been adapted... I own a 1897 Krag (Steyr), and you just throw them in there and lock it.Reloading is very fast.
@alswann2702
@alswann2702 5 жыл бұрын
Wrong Alec. Ask an owner.
@Heldermaior
@Heldermaior 4 жыл бұрын
@@DC2007A The advice is valid for rimless Krags... Still trying to find one I can afford...
@Cleverhandle357
@Cleverhandle357 9 жыл бұрын
The sound of that bolt cycling is the sexiest I've heard on any gun, except when it jams of course
@MyS10Rocks
@MyS10Rocks 3 жыл бұрын
You should also note that the switch on the left side of the reciever is used to shut off the magazine for taking long, single shots, saving the mag rounds for closer shots. Great rifle!
@clayronso3932
@clayronso3932 9 жыл бұрын
Still easier to reload a Krag than it is a Lebel.
@blacktoast_2158
@blacktoast_2158 6 жыл бұрын
Clay Ronso the krag was made as a better alternative to the lebel, but it also came before stripper clips
@hb9145
@hb9145 5 жыл бұрын
@@blacktoast_2158 Krags have speedloaders.
@GhostRider659
@GhostRider659 4 жыл бұрын
@@hb9145 they do now, the grunts issued with them had to make do without
@kyleschafer6275
@kyleschafer6275 3 жыл бұрын
@@blacktoast_2158 but it was born right after the gew 88, a rifle with en bloc clips. Had the Kragen been born in 1880, about 10 years earlier, it would've been revolutionary.
@iterationfackshet1990
@iterationfackshet1990 Жыл бұрын
@@kyleschafer6275they tested en-bloc clips and found them to be unsatisfactory compared to the Krag capsule because they couldn’t be topped up and the mannlicher system was too open to the elements. In fact they also tested them against the Mauser with stripper clips and once again found it to be unsatisfactory because while the Mauser could be topped up and wasn’t open the Krag could be topped up while there was a round in the chamber meaning the soldier was never vulnerable. The U.S. also developed a system to allow the Krag to use stripper clips by putting a guide by the capsule (this was around 1897-98) the ordinance department rejected it as they were developing the M1901 which would become the M1903. A decent bit of the Krag lives on in the 1903 though as while externally the bolt resembles that of the 1893 Mauser internally it’s basically the Krag bolt, it even shares the same cocking piece. The magazine cutoff on the 1903 also is very much inspired by the Krag.
@gunnutperk2331
@gunnutperk2331 9 жыл бұрын
I feel like it is pretty fast reload for not having clips.
@daginn896
@daginn896 6 жыл бұрын
It does have clips, at least in Norway it does.
@fan9775
@fan9775 4 жыл бұрын
Just splash some refreshing rounds into it.
@knightman4574
@knightman4574 4 жыл бұрын
It depends, i think? but they were having some issues..
@lani6647
@lani6647 4 жыл бұрын
Ten seconds end to end.
@jmkhenka
@jmkhenka 4 жыл бұрын
Diffrence in norway it shot the rimless 6.5x55, there is speedloaders for it that load the krag in 0.5 seconds. there is no rimlocking on those. Its even faster to load then any mauser, as there is no resisance and speed loaders are just a box of 5 rounds poored in the magazine.
@811brian
@811brian 9 жыл бұрын
The Norwegians I believe made speed loaders for their model Krags. But I guess that in times of war, the need for resources is a bit too critical for a luxury of that kind.
@crodsbye
@crodsbye 4 жыл бұрын
They really could have just set 5 rounds on the palm of the hand and let the rounds drop into the mag, with 5 rounds in each ammo pouch. easy
@BumblingBushcraft
@BumblingBushcraft 4 жыл бұрын
@@crodsbye excactly what they did.
@flyingninja1234
@flyingninja1234 8 жыл бұрын
I saw a video, from I believe Norway of someone using a sheet metal box that loaded the Krag faster than single loading. Supposedly the boxes were issued to troops.
@flyingninja1234
@flyingninja1234 8 жыл бұрын
The speed loader wasn't issued to troops, like I thought.
@RabbitusMaximus
@RabbitusMaximus 6 жыл бұрын
...and to solve the slow reload I use a Mosin Nagant stripper clip to feed my krag. Actually, it works faster on the Krag than on the Mosin. Looser fitting, it will capture the 30 army, but is loose so that once in position, all you do is hang it tip[ down, move your finger and they drop right in. Boom. VERY nearly as fast as a regular stripper clip and just as fast as the Lee Enfield's stripper clip, but looser and less force required. Try it out.
@larserikgill
@larserikgill 8 жыл бұрын
TFB TV: The Krag Jørgensen rifle was a very effective rifle at the time of bolt action infantry rifles. In Norway where the design is from, we used 6.5x55 ammo in it. To use a rimmed round like the US 30/40 Krag in a rifle, where the cartridges "magically" seats themselves in the magazine is not a very good idea, and you get rimlock and difficulties loading! Also we developed a speed loader for it. Just my opinion Good video and keep them coming :)
@DonMeaker
@DonMeaker 8 жыл бұрын
I have never had rimlock in my Krags. That magazine seems to sort them out. FMJ bullets do work better.
@DonMeaker
@DonMeaker 7 жыл бұрын
The Springfield was a darned pretty rifle, but my Enfield P-17 always shot better than my Springfield... the WWI sight on the springfield sure didn't help.
@rossclaytor582
@rossclaytor582 6 жыл бұрын
Oi alex, what is the ammo pouch you use for run and guns?
@tylersmith3139
@tylersmith3139 5 ай бұрын
​@@DonMeakerThe P-17 a pretty weapon as well.
@apneaman3084
@apneaman3084 9 жыл бұрын
The 6.5mm Norwegian Krag with it's rimless round might be a lot faster.
@arildsolemdal6966
@arildsolemdal6966 8 жыл бұрын
+Apneaman Indeed it is!
@kazoolordhd6591
@kazoolordhd6591 7 жыл бұрын
both rimless and rimmed were tested for the krag and the back of the rim has a shamfer anyway so no problems with the rimmed round
@aaronquak2139
@aaronquak2139 6 жыл бұрын
KazooLordHD Champfer! But indeed, they really do solve the rimlock problem. To spec .303 British ammunition do suffer minimal rimlock with the Lee-Enfield even when they are loaded with the wrong technique because they are made with one. The Danish Krags also had a stripper device which made them fast loading with and without clips.
@Landser89
@Landser89 9 жыл бұрын
You guys should try out a Norwegian Krag, it has the same loading gate, but the 6,5x55 cartridge is rimless, so it feeds like a charm. I also urge you to try a Danish Krag, on which the loading gate hinges forward, and the ammo is rimmed. Should make for an interesting run! Take a look at my video of the M1894 Norwegian Krag!
@dragonfell5078
@dragonfell5078 3 жыл бұрын
Don't know if you're still here, but I took a look at your video. It was great! Definitely something new to me, had no idea krags had speedloaders!
@Dagonet29
@Dagonet29 9 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite historical military rifles! It was such a treat to see you do a run and gun with this beauty!
@batickell
@batickell 9 жыл бұрын
So glad to see this video! There isn't enough Krag love on KZbin! Thanks guys!
@sgtmayhem7567
@sgtmayhem7567 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the excellent video and demonstration of the loading process of the.30-40 Krag, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
@ostiariusalpha
@ostiariusalpha 9 жыл бұрын
You did a fine job there, Alex. Sometimes finding the stripper slot on a Mauser can be tricky when you're hurrying, and feeding from the stripper can get a bit hung up, so I would say the side gate loading of the Krag was only marginally slower (as long as you're not dropping those loose rounds 😆). The real weak point is those damn rimmed cartridges, on a rimless 6.5 ×55 you just drop the rounds in as fast as you can without concern for rimlock. I only use round nose, soft point 30-40 loads in my Krag, chambers with no difficulties, that might have made things go a bit smoother for you as well.
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 9 жыл бұрын
+ostiariusalpha I beg to differ! I can load and shoot off 5 rounds in a stripper clip gun before I can even load the Krag! kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3TaaGOll6p8fZI
@ostiariusalpha
@ostiariusalpha 9 жыл бұрын
TFB TV Oh, I'm not doubting that it's faster than the side gate in whatever type of round you'd choose. Still, with a Norwegian Krag, you pop the gate open, drop in the five rounds all in a go, and smack the gate shut. Not as slick as the Mauser, but much better than the trickling you were doing with the 30-40 cartridges. I won't put forward the Krag's speedloader too much, because that was never military issue and it would have had weight penalties versus the stripper clips. The speedloader is crazy fast though, and you can top off the magazine with a round chambered.
@UGLEIV
@UGLEIV 9 жыл бұрын
+ostiariusalpha There were actually issued speedloaders for the norwegian krag before the defence cuts of the late 20's early 30's. These were made of cardboard and steel.
@MarkiusFox
@MarkiusFox 9 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a 6.5x55mm Swedish Krag Jorgensen rifle. The 6.5 being a rimless round should mean that loading would be a bit easier than with the rimmed .30 Krag.
@audunberntsen5963
@audunberntsen5963 Жыл бұрын
*Norwegian
@MarkiusFox
@MarkiusFox Жыл бұрын
@@audunberntsen5963 Tell me real quick; what round does the Norwegian Krag fire? Could it be...6.5x55mm Swedish? Why yes, yes it does!
@mats7044
@mats7044 8 жыл бұрын
Great video again, TFB! I have the lots of original krag's in 6,5x55 (im form Norway) and these guns where used by Norwegian military from 1895 to 1945, and they are a pleasure to shoot with, i know the loading can be a bit difficult sometimes, but it's often used speed loaders, so if you where a good shooter, and a fast loader, u could load the Krag as fast as a Mauser k98 :)
@j4cool802
@j4cool802 2 жыл бұрын
Hello sir, can you please explain to me what skysting is?
@antiquearmsreview4431
@antiquearmsreview4431 9 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Just some info, the Krag did have charging clips available. They were similar to the K31 Swiss charging clips. You should get some, trouble is they aren't very common.
@TroopperFoFo
@TroopperFoFo 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the old 45-70 trapdoor trick of holding extra rounds between your fingers would help with the reload speed instead of having to reach into a bag.
@JackJackKcajify
@JackJackKcajify Жыл бұрын
i like how you legitimately do a firing simulation when you test the gun. Your not just standing there and casually shooting. Your actually pretending your in combat and need to fire fast and efficiently. Which is exactly what you need to do to create a fair and impartial analysis.
@haraldpettersen3649
@haraldpettersen3649 6 жыл бұрын
When you are used to the weapon , relouding goes considerably faster , even in the dark . It's a very precise weapon , but sensitive for humid weather . When you realize this , it's no prolem . You will learn quickly to compensate for this . Continue with the good work , greetings from Norway .
@williamdaniels6943
@williamdaniels6943 5 жыл бұрын
ya well its pretty amazing sometimes what you can get used to!
@theodoreroosevelt3143
@theodoreroosevelt3143 6 жыл бұрын
i noticed that cycling the bolt is smooth and works well, it's not like mosin or lebel where sometimes you need to tap it harder once more at the end
@thetman0068
@thetman0068 8 жыл бұрын
Christ, even through the video I can feel how smooth that bolt is. XD
@Huckleberry68
@Huckleberry68 6 жыл бұрын
Damn that action is smooth AF
@Perfusionist01
@Perfusionist01 9 жыл бұрын
Neat. It's nice to see the "run 'n gun" with some of the older classic firearms. Keep up the good work and have fun.
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 9 жыл бұрын
Also here is a comparison at the same stage of the run with a stripper clip vs. the Krag. I could reload and pull off 5 shots with a stripper clip fed gun faster than I could load the Krag! kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3TaaGOll6p8fZI
@tecneck8669
@tecneck8669 9 жыл бұрын
With stripper clips you must pull the bolt back, if you want to reload and still have ammo cambered. But with the Krag Jørgensen you can reload without moving the bolt. Great video, btw i liked the Walter MPL video
@HaakonTheViking
@HaakonTheViking 9 жыл бұрын
yes. The Krag also comes with a mag-cut-off. allowing you to fire single shot, and keep the mag in reserve.
@JoakimGulbrandsen
@JoakimGulbrandsen 9 жыл бұрын
from what the "old wise men" say here in Norway (from where Krag-Jørgensen is from), the loading gate is better than stripper clips, they apparently developed a way to load it up completely with just one go (took 5 rounds in one hand, and let them slide in). Another great feature according to them, is the possibility to load a full "magazine", when you have fired 1-2-3-4 rounds. And of course the mag-cutoff making it possible to fire 1 and 1, by manually loading the chamber.
@sergeantbigmac
@sergeantbigmac 9 жыл бұрын
+Joakim Gulbrandsen Theres a similar technique to hold and load a shotgun that competition shooters use... In a civilian environment im sure its works fine. But in a military situation under pressure, spreed and stress I can see how that fiddly nature could be a problem and why the US Army switched to Mauser style with clip fed.
@thelaughinghyenas7962
@thelaughinghyenas7962 9 жыл бұрын
+TFB TV , After that run and gun, do you still honestly say that the Krag was a world's greatest bolt action rifle? Was it honestly a better military rifle than even a good peace time produced Fucile di Fanteria Mod. 91/38 or Moschetto per Truppe Speciali Mod. 91/28 "Mannlicher Carcano?"
@aaroncabrera8949
@aaroncabrera8949 8 жыл бұрын
The ejection of those casings is the most majestic and gentle thing I've ever seen.
@Nvwheeler
@Nvwheeler 4 жыл бұрын
One interesting feature on a Krag is the magazine break. That allows for feeding rounds one at a time, preserving 5 rounds in the magazine
@georgewhitworth9742
@georgewhitworth9742 Жыл бұрын
Nothing novel about that, even M1903's have that feature.
@sergeantbigmac
@sergeantbigmac 9 жыл бұрын
Wow thats surprisingly smooth bolt work. Good job! I guess that reputation of the Krag having the smoothest bolt action is true. Excellent accuracy too. And these run and guns show a rifles pros and cons in real world practice. I always doubted if loading was really as bad as the Army reports made it out to be. Its clear in practice that its as fiddly as described. Thanks for the video.
@randomeddie185
@randomeddie185 9 жыл бұрын
i keep hearing about this 'rim lock' thing... i've been shooting krags for over 20 years without ever experiencing it- and all i've ever done is just toss a handful of shells in and close the door. the original military load had a round nose bullet and i think the feed problems come from using spitzer design bullets. the only failures to feed i ever had were due to commercially loaded ammo (it wasn't a rim problem - they didn't want to feed even if i only had one round in the magazine). since then i've shot nothing but reloads with round or flat nose bullets and the problems disappeared.
@BingBongFYaLife
@BingBongFYaLife 9 жыл бұрын
would love to see a k31 run and gun video
@ChefGod513
@ChefGod513 9 жыл бұрын
kind of like saying you want to see 700 yd AK shots but i agree none the less
@mikepipher3347
@mikepipher3347 9 жыл бұрын
I agree. With practice it should be able to fire strings off very fast
@GenScinmore
@GenScinmore 8 жыл бұрын
+Darby Metcalf they did one
@Ben_not_10
@Ben_not_10 7 жыл бұрын
Actually a friend of mine uses k31 chargers for his krag and loves them to death.
@brandonchristino8267
@brandonchristino8267 3 жыл бұрын
They did make speed loaders for krags but I’m not sure on weather they were very common or not can someone who knows more educated me because I’ve been looking on purchasing a Krag-Jorgensen and I just love this rifle.
@Anon.Emouse
@Anon.Emouse 9 жыл бұрын
That was faster than I thought it would be. It would be good to see the same test with a Norwegian Krag in 6.5x55mm where rim lock wouldn't be an issue.
@williamgray8499
@williamgray8499 Жыл бұрын
To all those who comment, please specify which Krag you are referring to. For example, the U.S. Army technically used the "Springfield Model 1892" which is similar to other Krag's but not identical. I think the point of this video is to show the American version only. This rifle was used when America conquered the Philippines after the Spanish surrendered. The Philippine Army used Spanish Mausers but did not have the ability to make much ammo for it other than reloads. That multiyear campaign is where the shortcomings of the "Model 1892" really showed. The short-lived Cuban part of the Spanish American War got more publicity, but the U.S. Army paid far more attention to the campaign in the Philippines. That campaign was led by Gen. Arthur MacArthur and evolved into a very dirty, nasty war with a lot of massacres by both sides.
@TH3PLA1NP1L0T
@TH3PLA1NP1L0T 5 жыл бұрын
The action is really smooth on this gun
@The_Republic_of_Ireland
@The_Republic_of_Ireland 6 жыл бұрын
Red Dead Redemption 2 bolt action rifle
@MainePredator
@MainePredator Жыл бұрын
I've used an old Krag for many years to hunt with and I've never had an issue with rim lock , just drop them in bullet end first , close the " lunch box " and fire away . Awesome rifle !
@tswims92
@tswims92 3 жыл бұрын
The Krag is from an interesting time where everyone was still trying to figure out the most effective bolt action/magazine system. That and the army was still very concerned about marksmanship and stuck in a frontier mindset. They had intended that the krag be shot as a single shot rifle, and the magazine was to contain breakthroughs. The Spanish American War set them straight on that idea.
@retiredafce3373
@retiredafce3373 9 жыл бұрын
Dude, very impressive! That rifle shot very well for its age.
@ftswarbill
@ftswarbill 9 жыл бұрын
Outside of having to basically dump bullets in to load, the extracted rounds seemed strong and fluid. Not on my wish list but interesting. Cheers.
@darink300zx
@darink300zx 9 жыл бұрын
Nice video Alex, you ran that gun like a boss! I'm really enjoying your alls channel.
@kamferjau
@kamferjau 9 жыл бұрын
Also worth noting that you arent under any spring pressure loading the cartridges, so that makes it easier. Aaaand this rifle was made for 6,5x55 which is not rimmed, and is easier to load I would imagine, never tried a 30-40 krag one
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 9 жыл бұрын
+kamferjau Actually they were first adopted in the rimmed 8x58r by the Danish. They didn't end up in 6.5 until years later.
@kamferjau
@kamferjau 9 жыл бұрын
I did not know that, thanks! The 6,5x55 one served to be the most popular though it seems, the norwegian army used it up until the second world war and during it, and anecdotally germans were said to have been terrified by the precision norwegian army/resistance showed with their krags. They are also as you said very slick bolts and famous for this, with old competition shooters using toothpaste and dry-cycling the bolt to make it even smoother. As a followup question: Have you shot any 6,5x55 rifles? I am sure you have tried a swedish mauser or perhaps a norwegian krag. I still use this caliber for hunting and long-range myself, love it.
@UGLEIV
@UGLEIV 9 жыл бұрын
It took 5 years by looking on the adoption dates, the Danish Krag 1889 and the Norwegian Krag in 1894. but in real life the action was reworked a lot sooner as Captain Krag himself was on the Swedish-Norwegian Rifle comission, and as such the Swedish mauser round was at least partially developed by the team behind the Krag rifle.
@davidwagner4671
@davidwagner4671 9 жыл бұрын
very smooth action
@troy9477
@troy9477 6 жыл бұрын
U did a nice job. Loading was pretty good, and the bolt cycling was fast and smooth. I have an 1898. Haven't been able to shoot it much, but i can tell it would be effective. It is beautifully made and very smooth. Later cartridge developments and spitzer bullets had an edge in velocity and range, but the Krag was no slouch.
@Danielaris5875
@Danielaris5875 3 жыл бұрын
The best way to load a hand load gun like the krag or a Schofield model three is to have all the required bullets in one hand and start loading one at a time and try to go as fast as you can
@joash480
@joash480 9 жыл бұрын
The moment that round flew from his hand at the first reload I was like "yup, its a problem".
@ericferguson9989
@ericferguson9989 9 жыл бұрын
Martini rifle run-n-gun!
@DC2007A
@DC2007A 9 жыл бұрын
Man, a single shot breech loader would bd tough!
@GK-tn9fi
@GK-tn9fi 8 жыл бұрын
There is speed loaders for the krag...
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 8 жыл бұрын
They made some experimental ones and modified rifles to use them, but they were never adopted in the USA.
@GK-tn9fi
@GK-tn9fi 8 жыл бұрын
TFB TV Oh okay, well they are all over the place here in Norway, a must have for any competition shooter.
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 8 жыл бұрын
Gjermund Karlsbakk We call the Norewegian speedloaders "dice cups" here.
@GK-tn9fi
@GK-tn9fi 8 жыл бұрын
TFB TV Have you ever gotten the chance to try one?
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 8 жыл бұрын
Gjermund Karlsbakk No
@patc273
@patc273 8 жыл бұрын
if you like running Spanish-American War era guns, then you should film a run and gun with the Springfield 1873 trapdoor rifle. Served side-by-side with the Krag on San Juan hill.
@williamdaniels6943
@williamdaniels6943 5 жыл бұрын
also they had some lever action.
@ReconstructedYankee1882
@ReconstructedYankee1882 5 жыл бұрын
That is true you know Pat C
@fordwk
@fordwk 4 жыл бұрын
Smooth Action...the best I every felt.
@genegarren833
@genegarren833 7 жыл бұрын
A great history lesson. It gives one a very good perspective as to Americans with Krags against the Cubans with Mausers.
@NewEnglandMilsurp
@NewEnglandMilsurp 9 жыл бұрын
The rims don't need to be lined up in my experience. It seems to align them inside the magazine. Most other rim fire rifles do need to be aligned though(Mosin Nagant, SMLE ect)
@mcj2967
@mcj2967 5 жыл бұрын
2:21 at this point I get shot by STG
@jaytonhawkins2872
@jaytonhawkins2872 5 жыл бұрын
At first I thought the Battlefield V reload speed for this gun was unrealistically fast... until I saw Alex do his thing. Amazing what a little bit (or a lot) of practice can do.
@johnhogan1444
@johnhogan1444 Жыл бұрын
That bolt action is super smooth, especially with only the one locking lug.
@naveentomlinson6221
@naveentomlinson6221 6 жыл бұрын
The sound of that bolt is so satisfying
@boone674
@boone674 7 жыл бұрын
San Juan Hill wasnt a failure. It was a U.S. victory. Where did you get that info?
@johnkendall6962
@johnkendall6962 5 жыл бұрын
@DJ Blackhood The attacking force almost always have more casualties then the defenders Just because they had more killed doesn't mean much. The Americans took San Juan Hill so won the battle.
@Anino_Makata
@Anino_Makata 5 жыл бұрын
john kendall I think Alex was referring to weapon performance being a failure, rather than the outcome of San Juan Hill. And in that regard, the American Krag really did fall behind the Spanish Mauser. Which, in turn, led to more casualties than what was necessary. Pretty much the only reason why America won was that the Spaniards grew overconfident, and were caught off-guard by the Rough Riders charging at them under the cover of Gatling gun fire. But if the battle came down to the rifles, the story would be way different.
@johnkendall6962
@johnkendall6962 5 жыл бұрын
@@Anino_Makata I agree that because the Spanish Mauser used a stripper clip it was better rifle but not by much. The defenders were behind barricades and the Americans only took 30 more casualties. I'm not convinced if the rifled were reversed that there would be much difference in the outcome. PS some of the US troops were still using the single shot trapdoor. Have you ever shot a Krag rifle. I have they are not as slow to reload as people think.
@hb9145
@hb9145 5 жыл бұрын
@@Anino_Makata Measuring rifle performance when the variables are so different, is impossible. The Americans had outdated artillery and were attacking a heavily fortified position uphill, yet suffered *fewer* fatalities than the defending Spanish force. I'd call that a success. I have no experience with the American Krags, but I do own a German Mauser and an Austrian produced Krag. If I was to shoot fast and accurately, I'd pick the Krag. The beauty of the Mauser lies in its reliability, safety and simplicity.
@BumblingBushcraft
@BumblingBushcraft 4 жыл бұрын
@@hb9145 The Norwegian conscript army went up against a batlle hardened German army at the battle of Narvik, with the krag, in winter conditions, and won, using the Krag aagaisnt the Germans Mausers. And won. It was not the rifle that was the problem, it was the rimmed 30-40 Krag round that was inferior in that rifle....probably combined with bad training. The Norwegian army was recruited from men that grew up shooting the Krag in the Shooting clubs. The Garmans at Narik suffered a tremendous ammount of head shots. Karl Springenschmid writes of the German experiences: «The Norwegians tend to attack during bad weeather. They fought harder than ever now. That they where excelent skiers, and knew how to fight on skis, the Mountain troops had experienced, also that they where excelent sharp shooters. But that they could go to direct storm at the support points was unexpected. Beaten back they gathered again and again, and attacked again, storming over their fallen and penterated our positions. These stubborn Norwegian peacetime soldiers had in short time gotten used to the war and become dangerous enemies." In the battle on the 20th and 21st of May at Storebekk- Kobberfjell, where the Germans was desparatelky defending hill 648 with the order that "This line will be held at any cost", also with massive air attacks agaionst the Norwegian soldiers, tell us something o fthe intensity. Of the 50 Germans that defended the hill, most was killed, wounded or taken prisoner. So, attacking trough a snow storm, on skis agaionst a fortified, defnede hill, while the nemy has air superiority, and still win the day, using a Krag. Nope it was not the rifle that failed at San Juan....
@aaronquak2139
@aaronquak2139 6 жыл бұрын
"Fumbling around" Still makes it look as easy. That's Alex for you.
@Mildcat743
@Mildcat743 7 жыл бұрын
Id love to see some handgun run n guns from you guys
@erikga46
@erikga46 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video! Just a couple of comments, and they are mainly related to the Norwegian Army Krag m1929, which my father used to teach me to shoot. These comments may or may not be relevant to the US Krag. First and foremost, the Norwegian Krag is in 6.5x55mm, which is a RIMLESS cartridge, and that eliminates/minimises the possibility of rim lock and makes the cartridge much easier to load. But the beauty of the Krag using rimless cartridges, is that you can basically just dump a five cartridges in the magazine and the closing of the gate will align them automatically. Incidentally, speedloading devices were prototyped, but never implemented, because they did not speed up the reloading significantly. Secondly, the standard Norwegian Army doctrine during the Krag period was essentially a defensive one. Norwegian Soldiers were taught to use the single round magazine bypass facility (which I do not know if the US Krags have), fire well aimed single shots at long range, leveraging the excellent accuracy of the Krag. The five round magazine was to be held in reserve and only be used if being rushed by the enemy. So the rifle was never intended to be used in an “assault rifle” scenario - which the Run ‘n Gun basically simulates. Any review of an item must be based on the designed use of the item.... Having thus tried to uphold the honour of the Krag, I must of course admit that a stripper clip is much easier and faster to use. The Krag magazine was - let’s face it - only used to get around existing patents for magazine loading systems, I.e. the Mauser clip.
@LastCaress7
@LastCaress7 9 жыл бұрын
A few questions. Were original Scandinavian krags chambered in 6.5x55? And ive seen competitive Scandinavian shooters use the krag and utilize a speed loader that was super fast. Are these speed loaders a modern addition to the gun? Or have they always existed?
@arildsolemdal6966
@arildsolemdal6966 8 жыл бұрын
+LastCaress7 The original Scandinavian ( Norwegian ) Krags were chambered in the great 6.5x55. The speed loaders is as far as I know a rather modern invention - but DAMN they are fast!
@MopSpadowski
@MopSpadowski 9 жыл бұрын
Uh, wow! I thought that was very impressive! Great job!
@Xirque666
@Xirque666 8 жыл бұрын
You can get fastloaders for this and you can also feed it from the otherside in singleshot
@Landsknecht89
@Landsknecht89 9 жыл бұрын
Nice! I would love to see a Steyr M95 run and gun video.
@kyleellis7130
@kyleellis7130 4 жыл бұрын
The Swedish M96 Mauser is awesome and and has a very smooth mauser action as well. I have a 1900 M96 with original 120 year old barrel and reciever and still shoots like a dream very accurate at 100 yards. The Krag and Swedish mauser let alone the K98 mausers all have smooth bolt actions and are very accurate rifles.
@HaakonTheViking
@HaakonTheViking 9 жыл бұрын
It's interresting how the americans claim to be out matched by the spanish, yet the Norwegians never claim the german rifles outmatched theirs. We blame almost everything BUT the krag for our defeat in 1940...
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 9 жыл бұрын
+HaakonTheViking In the 1890s, small arms played a larger role than in 1940 (especially in a conflict like the Spanish American War). Tribunals blamed both the Krag and the Spanish soldier's superior fortifications in reality.
@HaakonTheViking
@HaakonTheViking 9 жыл бұрын
TFB TV Right, the way they where used probably mattered grately. I wish I could link to an awesome documentary that was shown here in Norway earlier this year, about the invasion of Norway 1940, but I can't find it any more.
@HaakonTheViking
@HaakonTheViking 9 жыл бұрын
Nunya Bidniz Honestly 6,5x55 is in my oppinoin a perfect cartrige,
@shanewoody4232
@shanewoody4232 6 жыл бұрын
HaakonTheViking you guys probably would had lost if you had m1s
@hb9145
@hb9145 6 жыл бұрын
+Shane Woody Any army would have lost against the Germans in 1940.
@nickmoon3400
@nickmoon3400 9 жыл бұрын
Your really know how to handle bolt actions!
@G56AG
@G56AG 9 жыл бұрын
During WW2 my Dad was in Navy boot camp where they shot their rifle qualification with Krags, I guess there was a shortage of newer rifles to shoot at the time. He complained that the recoil was pretty bad, but I would expect it to be about the same as a 30-06.
@GrimrDirge
@GrimrDirge 9 жыл бұрын
I inherited a Krag. Smoothest action I have ever felt, very crisp trigger and very accurate. At $2.00 per shot it doesn't see a lot of daylight, sadly.
@steamyyyy
@steamyyyy 8 жыл бұрын
thats cuz the action is Slicker than Greased Owl Shit
@Porty1119
@Porty1119 7 жыл бұрын
Start casting your own bullets and reloading. Lead bullets are very easy on the bore, and your cost per round would be about thirty cents.
@simoncox1861
@simoncox1861 9 жыл бұрын
I'd quite like to see a comparison of the early smokeless service rifles; the Lee Metford (or Lee-enfield mk 1), Mauser 98 Gewehr, Lebel Fusil, Mosin-nagant and the Krag. A bit of a turn of the century Special. Really enjoying the Run and gun episodes, keep it up!
@sevenscents1109
@sevenscents1109 9 жыл бұрын
I really like the old gun! It seems dependable enough.
@michaelcarey3105
@michaelcarey3105 3 жыл бұрын
Not too shabby, young guy! Actually very good! Nice video!
@sebisoymus2807
@sebisoymus2807 8 жыл бұрын
I have not personally shot a Krag (went abroad to study before I had time), but my uncle and grandfather has a Krag each, and they have the same thing behind the bullets as the Mauser has, though those are Norwegian Krags, and I do not know if there is any difference between them, but the feeding should go faster with that
@cassiapalladium2921
@cassiapalladium2921 9 жыл бұрын
I knew a guy who had a sporterized krag, he told me that he took a handful of bullets, and tossed them into the magazine, and he never complained about rimlock or any other malfunctions. Granted, he's also using it at the range, and not in combat, so that could make a difference.
@ringlie
@ringlie 8 жыл бұрын
There was developed a speed loading clip for the Krag that made it way faster and easier to reload, but it might have been several years to late to make the krag a more popular gun for the military back in the days.
@bomba1905
@bomba1905 Жыл бұрын
There do exist speed loaders for the Krag action which make the loading process a lot quicker. And unlike the American and Danish Krags, the Norwegian ones are chambered in a rimless cartridge which could also help.
@LUR1FAX
@LUR1FAX 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe you could try again with a 6.5x55mm version, as that round is rimless. Or would that be pointless?
@capcom7794
@capcom7794 9 жыл бұрын
Fast and smooth.
@gavinheimerman6320
@gavinheimerman6320 6 жыл бұрын
Any chance you could find the Krag, sort of stripper clip style of speed loaders, and redo this run n' gun?
@danieldalessandro96
@danieldalessandro96 8 жыл бұрын
speaking of springfield m1903's, you should do a run and gun with one :)
@traxfish
@traxfish 7 жыл бұрын
man, that bolt looks silky smooth though
@eliasdeleone7059
@eliasdeleone7059 5 жыл бұрын
That is some seriously slick shooting even with that loading gate.
@edwardcoates2094
@edwardcoates2094 7 жыл бұрын
That bolt action is so satisfying
@merlemorrison482
@merlemorrison482 8 жыл бұрын
FYI; there were "chargers" made for the Krag - they resembled those used in Swiss K31s.
@GenScinmore
@GenScinmore 8 жыл бұрын
+Merle Morrison they even have speed loaders
@scottgindroz1474
@scottgindroz1474 8 жыл бұрын
A Danish Movie, not released in the US yet ,called the battle of hdarslav, I hope I spelled it right on youtube has shown Danish troops fighting the invading Germans using Krag jorgenson rifles and what looks like a Bren gun. Its in danish but has subtitles. if any sees it check out the rifles and see if I 'm correct in identifying the rifle in the film.
@PriVateJoe7
@PriVateJoe7 8 жыл бұрын
The movie is called 9. april :D Also, the town in the batle is called Haderslev. You can find all the combat scenes on youtube. Also they are using the Madsen lmg, very simmilar to a Bren indeed.
@ixiairisborne1695
@ixiairisborne1695 6 жыл бұрын
An old boss of mine would have loved this. He had a bit of an addiction to Krags.
@riley4198
@riley4198 Жыл бұрын
I love the way it sounds
@joeybadger
@joeybadger 2 жыл бұрын
The rimmed cartridges are imaterial. Rimlock only occurs in a feeding magazine. The Krag was designed to never create rim lock. It is literally impossible to rimlock on a krag. You don't need to feed them one at a time and can literally dump a handful into the side gate. The only issue is the top opening can catch a round where it won't close, especially on the latter rounds, but not nearly as difficult as depicted here, though not suggesting it could keep up with a clip fed system.
@stephenbond1990
@stephenbond1990 7 жыл бұрын
You know, i just looked at the point he opened the loading gate and it doesn't look like it would be too hard to add a charger guide at the back. Also, i think only the us krag had one locking lug where the Danish and Norwegian krag had two. Any chance of a review or field strip?
@Grandpadew
@Grandpadew 9 жыл бұрын
Sure makes one appreciate the Military Men who had to use this rife in combat!
@SyndicateBrink
@SyndicateBrink 8 жыл бұрын
You should get the krag speedloader, faster then reloading a Lee-Enfield and on par with a Mauser. Only problem I find with the speed loaders are that they are essentially 5 round magazines and would be heavy to carry multiple ones around during combat or marching
@2late2stop
@2late2stop 3 жыл бұрын
30-40 is almost an intermediate round, almost no recoil. Got one, 1896 officers model. Nice shooting.
@dfraczek93
@dfraczek93 9 жыл бұрын
Loving these videos. Sweet shooting.
@desabc221
@desabc221 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure if rim lock is a concern with this design. Also if you tilt the rifle left just a little it is easier to load under stress!
@sdix3770
@sdix3770 Жыл бұрын
Often it had been forgotten that the 30-40 Kraig also took stripper clips. The side gate was in case you ran out and needed to load the rifle.
@robertodebeers2551
@robertodebeers2551 3 жыл бұрын
You don't have to load one cartridge at a time. Every Krag shooter knows this. You just dump in a handful and close the gate. Try it.
@bigchunk1
@bigchunk1 8 жыл бұрын
How does the loading gate feed rounds into the breach without spring tension? Those rounds look like they are just being piled loosely on the bottom.
@arildsolemdal6966
@arildsolemdal6966 8 жыл бұрын
+bigchunk1 There's a spring loaded follower inside the mag hatch. Unless you open the mag very slowly, it's hard to see it. But it's there. I own an M1912 Carbine, so no BS here :D
@bigchunk1
@bigchunk1 8 жыл бұрын
Arild Solemdal Oh thanks. The tension is caused by the closing of the loading gate then?
@arildsolemdal6966
@arildsolemdal6966 8 жыл бұрын
+bigchunk1 The tension is created by BOTH the spring and the closing of the loading gate. I think I'll make a video showing this - tomorrow :D
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