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[@OutdoorGamerGuy]

My cousins have one..and it's a good one for the price in my opinion

[@hookedonchristmas]

Hey Kramer, I watched your review, but I bought this bow because I am getting back into archery and didn't want to go to expensive. However I ordered the bow directly from TopArchery and they took your adjustments to heart. They added felt to the riser connections to quite the bow and added felt to the area where the bow string connects to bow. All in all it quite and works great, they were listening.

[@MrKevinSweet]

Hey Kramer! i have had and used this bow for recurve hunting and backyard target shooting for about a year and a a half now. It's not the bow I learned on, my first bow was actually a bear grizzly that i unfortunately shot too close to a tree whilst hunting. However, so far the the toparchery has been my favorite! Let me tell you why, and I'd also like to say that I am in no way affiliated with the company. So, when I purchased the bow, I purchased the 50lb option. At my draw length of 30" it's about 62lbs, so I think the limbs are all slightly heavy. I shoot 600gr. arrows with a very high FOC with helical turkey feather fletchings, nothing special. I shoot heavy arrows because just as yours did, my chrono showed a consistent 170-180FPS at 10GPP, it is a fast little thing. My Grizzly shot at 165fps. I find this bow to (after some modifications) be significantly superior to other sub-$200 recurves, and absolutely the best option when you're getting on the crazy cheap end of the scale. First of all, scrap the string. The thing only lasts about 500 shots anyways. I replaced my initial dacron string with a 16 strand fastflight flemish twist string and almost immediately it seemed to be shooting much faster. I was right, chronographed at 190. It was a bit of a gamble because i didn't know for sure how well prepared the limb tips were for a lower stretch string. I shoot 150 shots a day to stay sharp, and I've had it for almost exactly 18 months so this bow has put up with fast flight just fine for about 81,000 shots give or take 1,000. The noise was an issue. However, it didn't have anything to do with the limb pockets. I sound dampened both, and it was still pretty much just as loud. I stopped using those rests, got myself a basic fabric shelf rest, and I put string dampeners on both the upper and lower parts of the string. Like magic, it was no louder than my Bear had been. I have been shooting off the shelf with Victory V-force SP300 carbon arrows and no plunger. Because my arrow weight is mostly up front (200gr inserts and 100gr points), it dynamically spines out about perfectly leaving the bow right off of the centershot of the shelf. I have a thin strip of felt covering the plunger/sight holes. Bareshaft tuning checks out. As far as comfort goes, I suppose that's subjective. I have long arms and giant hands. I like the way that the metal riser cradles my hand, and its weight helps kill the pre-shot shakes I sometimes get when I'm anxious about making a shot. The narrow handle discourages torquing the bow with fingers, and the rubber grip seems to be holding up just fine. I'm not really in it for comfort, but with the thick gloves I use to shoot with in the winter, it's never bothered me. I'd give it a 6/10. It's no Hoyt superstar, but come on, under $100? I've hunted in rain, snow, freezing Connecticut temps, nothing has bothered it. no warped limbs, no issues, just a string change as necessary and i am all good. I've shot my friends' expensive bows, and they all feel weak and fragile. I can feel the limbs creaking on the pull with the wood-on wood riser and I personally don't enjoy that. I can't think of any good reason to get a more expensive bow. I shoot consistent groups up to 40 yards, and I'd never shoot beyond 25 yards while hunting. Anyways, I hope my experience with the bow can give you some insight if you decide to make another video about this bow!

[@joseortegaa2349]

I have this bow 50lb. Would this bow be good enough for hunting

[@hawkeye312456]

Can I do these mods on the 40 lb draw weight of this bow?

[@theHighlander92]

​@@joseortegaa2349hey man, I know this is an old post, but that's what I was starting to wonder, if it was appropriate for hunting? I also have the 57" 50lb bow. Changed the string though... I quite like this bow but not had it for l long, how is yours holding up? Any problems? Have you tried hunting with it? Would love to know how your experience was with this bow. Would much appreciate a reply thanks...

[@twintwo1429]

This is a stupendously long, go no where comment. Some people need to just keep their asinine opinions and feelings to themselves. Talk about, vomiting your feelings to the world. This is right up there.

[@GlobeHackers]

I enjoy your reviews; you are fair and accurate in your assessments. I wanted to have a light draw bow around for relaxation. A little cotton, some textile material, a decut arrow rest, and some beaver pelt improve the bow quite a bit, and it's always fun to customize a bow a bit if it needs it.

[@theguyver13]

I added felt to the shelf and to the string grooves on the one I bought and it really helped with keeping sound down. It's also decent for a bowfishing setup .

[@beezowdoodoozoppitybopbopb9488]

You think an AMS reel will mount to it? I was thinking an aftermarket rest and a little felt on the limbs where the bowstring touches would quiet it down plenty as well.

[@johnshort4421]

I come back to this again as it is one of my favorite bows. Out of the box it wasn’t bad, but your assessment is spot on, good for speed. A few things changed and this bow is well worth it. I put on one of your fast flight strings with silencers, stuck on some limb savers 3.5 inches from limb pockets, added a draw checker and a flipper rest and this is a new bow, easily a good hunter, tree, brush, or ground blind hunting! Good work Kramer!

[@Alizudo]

Where do you source all these adjustments and modifications?

[@johnshort4421]

@@Alizudo I just use Lancaster or 3Rivers. Things that work with bows and individuals are, well, individual. I felt this bow needed to have a new string, I tried an elevated rest but went back to shelf and this baby rocked. Play with brace height and nock points and this is a stunning shooter!

[@HistoricalWeapons]

Both Armin and Kramer don't like TopArchery, maybe I should review a bow from them :) lets how spectacular it will break

[@UnattendedMale]

😂 that sounds like fun.

[@cutsur]

I have the exact same bow and it is my first bow ever. I am pretty happy with it. The biggest problem is the serving as Kramer mentioned.

[@mountaintruth1deeds533]

Bought a Fred Bear recurve at a pawn shop 25 years ago for 50$ still a good shooter to this day.

[@zoe0820]

I just bought one of these and it was 49$, but I think that it's a good bow for either beginners/ intermediate and especially if you do archery for a hobby

[@Qui-Dad-Jinn]

I have the 30# version of it. Love it so far. Small little 10 yard range here at the house. I've put around 1-2k arrows through it in the last two weeks and am on my 4th target. I love my top archery bow. Then again, I have nothing to compare it to.

[@loganautumnmays2358]

Hey Kramer, just found your channel around a week ago and I love woodworking. I'm not too serious about it like I want to be but you've inspired me to make a bow. I've thought about it before but you've shown how easy it can be. I love slow and tedious work and I think this will be fun to try. Love your channel and content. You seem like an awesome down to earth guy, keep it up man! God bless!

[@ohforfookssake]

I'm an absolute novice when it comes to woodwork but I came here on a KZbin wormhole a couple of months ago and ended up doing the same thing! Best project I've taken up by far. Got the string woven by hand as well. That's going to test your patience for sure. But it's well worth it. I've got a small one I'm working on at the moment. I've been messing about with thicknesses of wood for steam bending and I think I've got a shot of being able to bend a full recurve made of sapelee mahogany. Bearing in mind I was literally a dumbass when it came to wood 2 months ago😂😂😂😂😂😂 All the best mate and your in the right place for tips. I've had some great support from the guys and girls on here. All the best my friend!👊🏽👊🏽

[@isaactyson4618]

Thanks for the review. I know brace height is measured to the deep part of the grip but I believe AMO draw length/ draw weight is measured to the deep part of the grip + 1.75 inches. Just FYI

[@geneg5870]

I changed the rest, added string silencers and rubber shock silencers to help quiet the string slap. It really is a decent bow for hunting if you set it up correctly.

[@ericbaumgartner5742]

Exactly

[@valeriaaguilar1636]

@Jason Dilworth I bought one. It is the first bow I will shoot and the first one i buy. Could you tell me what things you changed? just so that I have an idea what I should change, later on.

[@valeriaaguilar1636]

Ok. Thank You👍👍

[@BlackRose.999]

Recommended by Jeff Phillips. Just ordered mine, some of the best archers say that if you just change the string and add some small mods it shoots like a any pro bow, for almost for free.. Great starter bow!

[@ryanfryman4029]

I own this exact bow and I have no complaints.

[@isaacdrake8124]

Is it good for beginners

[@ugurkancelik496]

@@isaacdrake8124 its not a beginner bow. 50lb is to Much for begining its most likely a hunting bow. Beginner bows usually 15-20lb

[@darcyleepearson4416]

This bow is still less than £100 in the uk, fill the limb pockets with eva foam and a little felt,some dampening on the recurve ans some felt on the shelf and a couple if thin strips of innertube on the atring and you have somrhing awesome, amazing quality for the price ❤

[@jaronmcfall7979]

So, I recently did some reading about Topoint Archery. Apparently, they are a rebrander seller. It’s a US based company that buys from Chinese manufacturers. I’ve bought three of their bows. (2 M1s and 1 R3) They all did great so far, though I’ve only shot about 2 dozen through the R3 before my bad shoulder got too sore to continue. With that said, I also bought this exact bow under the name of Gonex on Amazon. I know Topoint sells this exact one too. It was so bad we ultimately had to return it.

[@MrDesmostylus]

Please make a follow up video of you upgrading this bow. Would be awesome to see the difference a few easy mods could make.

[@losipoop]

i put felt pads in the limb pockets on my Samick Sage and it's still loud. no string silencers. BUT!!! i love the way it sounds! at 45lbs, it feels very powerful and the sound just adds to that. the arrows are also loud as they fly through the air. it's just a nice experience when shooting targets (i don't hunt). i say this because it's commonly stated that loudness is not a good thing.

[@joeker4189]

I've got one of these bows as a backup rig. My only complaint is that its noisy but there are some mods you can do to make it acceptable. I put string dampers on a flemish twist string, leather on the recurve part of the limb where the string meets it and filled the holes in the riser where the limbs bolt on with cotton wool. So far i can't complain about it.

[@Araye]

Comfortability... love this word.

[@AmericanDefender]

I have this bow and it's fantastic!

[@thenubianarcher9720]

I purchased this bow for $89 from Amazon! I got the 35 LB version just for fun shooting. Out-of-the-box the bow shoots pretty good with decent accuracy! I took it to another level. l replaced the rest with a NAP flipper rest I had laying around. I replaced the string with fast flight plus Flemish twist string. Added a 8 inch stabilizer. The bow shoots supper accurate and fast using Gold Tip Warrior 600 spine arrows with 100gr field points! Love this bow! It’d a keeper!

[@nakoawarrior3186]

I bought 2 Chinese compound bows,......they looked great,... I tested the poundage both were under weight. They looked like old 80's bows with a tear drop string mount,....I chose them so I could make my own strings. But I had to send them back for being under weight. Instead I went on Ebay and bought 12 old Fred bear Bows that had 4 wheels and a tear drop string mount. As far as the Top Hat Bow,.....looks great 3 pounds over weight,... is a good thing. As far as the plastic arrow rest,....if it wears out,.... it takes less than a minute to re-tune it,.... in the field. Metal arrow rests take hours of fiddling. You can improve the Tophat Bow.

[@Reolos1]

I own the 50# version. By gluing cotton balls under the takedown points, replacing the string with a fastflight flemish twist, and adding otterballs, it is as quiet as any other recurve I've shot. The arrow rest is awful but can easily be replaced with a mag one. I also painted it olive drab and added a bow quiver and it works quite well for hunting. It isn't a very "fun" bow though, and the vibration is really bad in my opinion after 20 or more shots on the range...

[@manii8597]

Are you able to make a hybrid transformation? Add a sight and pyp, stabilizer, different arrow rest, and a quiver?

[@dennism.2976]

Amazing start for a series! This might just get me to buy a bow and start shooting. Exciting stuff

[@thecarrot4412]

If the bow draw weight is marked to AMO standard length at 28", by drawing it to 27.5 " to the throat of the grip you've actually drawn it to 29.25" AMO . At 2 extra pounds per inch on average (in this case 1.25" over 28") 43.5 lbs is not unreasonable and would be within normal tolerance especially for such a short bow.

[@thecarrot4412]

@Super Actually I did. He is not measuring the bow to AMO standards. AMO draw length standard is length from string to throat of grip, *+1.75 inches*. The extra 1.75 inches in the measurement is quite important to the standard. He has not measured the bow to the standards and has come up confused about the correct draw weight -as have you.

[@thecarrot4412]

@Super it's really not AMO, much as you insist. Please search for and check the AMO measurement standards. Let me know if you find where it's being measured per AMO and I'll say I'm wrong, but this isn't even physically possible with the way his draw board is built. It could work out to give AMO with very specific bows but that'll be coincidence, it isn't built to be universally so which I can tell you just by looking at it. I'm sure he makes fine bows by looking at other content, but measurement is not his strong point here.

[@thecarrot4412]

@Super I did. He doesn't mention AMO. He doesn't mention 1.75 inches past pivot point. He doesn't build the board to measure based on the pivot, instead resting it against the belly of the bow and adding some arbitrary amount. If you genuinely can't show me, and I know how this works, telling me to STFU doesn't make you correct. Have fun with that!

[@viralnow8008]

Yes I think you are correct he should have measured from the outside of handle.

[@Anton_the_Vampire]

Would this be OK starter bow for someone who really can't afford to pay more?

[@fetchmasters]

Oh, lordie! I’ve not heard an arrow rest make that noise! And that thing is LOUD. Makes a sound similar to a banjo when you release the string.

[@MarkTillotson]

Some risers are magnesium alloy which also isn't magnetic... Never heard of a steel riser, but some stainless steels also are non-magnetic.

[@snowflake4233]

i own the same bow but in 50 lbs. put prolly 40 dollars worth of time and work into the bow to actually enjoy it, im glad i bought it for the experience but looking at it as a first time buyer id spend the extra money on a higher quality bow... and im talking only spend $140-$160 usd.

[@robertlipsey6056]

I bought one of these bows. The 35# version just to have fun with. I’m not a Hunter. I did a couple minor things to quiet it down and I really like it. I’m not expert by any means but I think it shoots as good as any bow I have. To each his own right?

[@Justin-vr4rw]

Thank you! I appreciate your review methodology.

[@Scarlet_Soul]

Drawing that bow with the plastic arrow rest sounds like a TIE fighter. And I know it likely won't but it really looks like it's going to snap at some point

[@jochenklabuhn483]

I've also the F179 Rh with 50#@28", shoots great without noise and good speed. I use it with thumbsrelease and khatra and draw up to 31", arrow on the right side...

[@philjohnson1744]

Dear Sir, This is a great review. But I love your DIY and How to vids the best.

[@charlesdavis9937]

I bought a Darton left handed recurve from a friend. It's #45 @ 28"

[@ericbaumgartner5742]

Ive been shooting this bow for 2 and a half years and have won every 3d shoot ive taken it to. About 8 shoots so far. It is a really decent shooting bow. The rest needs to go and it should be shot off the shelf 't with very little material added to the side of the shelf. Thats where it centers and shoots best. I am also pulling it 31 " which should not work well at all with such a short bow but it does. I encourage you to start over and through that garbage rest away and do a new review. My last bow wasa hoyt Buffalo and this bow works just as well and is quieter and faster

[@Joespmama.]

U should make leather side quivers for traditional bows I'd totally buy one 😁

[@VivalaryMan]

I built one myself out of my friends old couch, a bit of ply and a cable tie, sooooo easy and useful.

[@Joespmama.]

@@VivalaryMan oh rlly? cool!!

[@VivalaryMan]

@@Joespmama. It's cool to a degree, I'm sure it looks crazy to other people but to me, it functions and I made it from nothing so I'm not bothered how it looks to others. I was inspired by seeing one for like 30+ on eBay and I thought, that's just leather, foam and something to hold the arrows in a row. But if you don't mind looking silly to some people then I'd recommend making your own, use whatever you have, it just has to function, no leather? Use old denims or an old sock or plastic teacup from a child's tea kit. Good luck, but if that's not for you, you can buy one of course, however be careful as I purchased one that LOOKED legit but fell to pieces in the field (this was after I made my own and only made me happier I had). ✌🏻

[@purdins1987]

I just ordered the 40 pound draw version with sight and arrow brush for $67CAD shipped to my door.

[@fordman7479]

What??? I got one and it seems pretty good. It's my first recurve but i can group pretty good with it. Mine was only $75 pre covid too

[@AdamU1016]

You always make thorough reviews. More power to you. I just subbed.

[@ericbaumgartner5742]

The draw length weight at 28" should be done from the string to the front of riser so what you did was ad an extra inch to the draw length , hence the extra few pounds

[@IndianaBows]

Exactly. Maybe the three extra pounds was because the extra draw lenght that he made measuring from the bottom of riser.

[@boojahideenforeignlegion7641]

Yeah I thought he was about to tell us what the brace height was.

[@hawkssight3086]

Hi . I was surprised to see you do a Top Archery bow . I actually bought this at 50 lbs. and you do have to do some modifications . I added cat whiskers silencers and leather and felt for shooting off the shelf . To me those were the biggest "no brainers ". It definitely fits great in the hand , and I have big hands with a 10 inch wrist . I also shoot the same arrows that you did in this video . Go back to shooting off the shelf with this . It is definitely a great bow in my book.

[@star01248]

Kramer, I do not know if you will see this after a year but, because of your review and others, I ordered a Black Hunter longbow. On Amazon there are several seller. Have you though of reviewing the same bow from several sellers vendors ?

[@kramerammonsarchery]

Steven, thanks for reaching out! That exact video is coming out tomorrow:)

[@kevindodd6930]

Now that I am participating in Archery Tag and LARP (Live Action Role Play) the topic of safest arrow shaft has arisen. LARP has chosen Fiberglass arrow shafts, stating that other players are less likely to break a fiberglass shaft by stepping on them than Carbon Fiber, Aluminum or Wood. Have you tested these different materials for durability?

[@marianiurea6217]

For a guy that never shot a bow this is great. Most people shoot it once and then end up in a basement colecting dust. To see if you like the sport is great. My opinion.

[@bettermood505]

What do you think is the best lye at normal price ????on hunting

[@theterriblechannel7060]

I have this bow and it's only my 2nd recurve bow n I thought it worked pretty good for me ngl

[@reynaldoleon4300]

I just bought the same bow after breaking 2, $15 long bows😃..it seems pretty good for me..the weight seems ok i bought the 56inch 50lbs..seems great works better then the homemade bows i made..

[@dougeldredge]

i have a juxing recurve, alum. riser, i put bicycle tube gaskets under my limbs, quieted it down alot

[@lilyraimey3499]

4:12 startled the hell out of me.

[@357Franknitty]

Hey Kramer, have you played with a D&D Archery recurve takedown? I think it'd pretty much be in the same category as this and just wanted to know how you felt about it compared to the Top Archery.

[@geogemini8528]

Great video, I actually got one of these for Christmas. My first recurve since I was a kid, I normally shoot compound. I haven't set it up yet but I just had two questions. What did you set the brace hight at? I was thinking 7.75in and where did you set your nock? I was to the understanding it is a quarter inch above the arrow rest. I have the bow square and metal nocks and nock pliers. Just wondering what you think. Thanks in advance.

[@Bowfella]

One complaint I definitely had with this bow was the sound. But that was an easy fix, some camo cloth tape on the limbs and a couple improvised beaverballs and it was silent. After some shooting I did not have a problem with the squeaky rest. But definitely the angle of the handle isn't angled enough to get the most comfortable grip. Their customer service is amazing though, I had some serving issues on the top loop of my string, I still left a good review and didn't even contact them. Then they contact me and send me a new string free of charge. This was on Amazon.

[@justneedductape5093]

I bought this about a year ago on Amazon UK. 50 pound at 28 inches with assortment of attachment. Tried it, the shock is great, I decided to return it straight away. Instead, with the nearly the same amount of money £150, I bought a AF Turkish bow, and have been using it since.

[@rolandedrummer9723]

When taking out multiple Orcs volume shouldn't matter?

[@SSRT_JubyDuby8742]

Great informative post, I am looking forward to the next ones. 🙂🏹✅

[@VivalaryMan]

Met a guy at the club with this exact bow at 50lb. My bow is a 40lb ULTRA CHEAP beater, but wow when I heard him shoot I'm like, duuuuuude, just use a guitar!

[@maxcreaton]

Is it good for a begginer ?

[@paulalan3351]

I have the Same Bow, one of the Best I Have 3years

[@MarkTillotson]

Specks are bits of dust! spec's are specifications!

[@jimtheedcguy4313]

I know! At first I thought maybe specks was some sort of archery terminology, but then I watched it again, and with contexts he really meant to put specs.

[@playanamedgus2415]

The best bow is the one that you can shoot accurately.

[@verofpv6152]

What if you turned the string the other way so the small loop at the top and bigger loop at the bottom and shot of the shelf ?? Would this help in any way? Or is it not possible?

[@Benji1474]

Excited about these video's. I want an how to improve your recurve bow video. Kramer you are amazing.

[@bobbiker3683]

hey man i got one them toparchary 56 inch recurve bows its 50lb i think it might be bent its a right handed bow the string feels like its way too left cant find a video about this problem

[@liamadams2959]

My black hunter recurve sounded like this bow. I tried everything and it is still much louder than I’d like

[@arrow343]

Okay i bought that bow a little over 4 years ago, and it came with a twisted bow arm , Yeah I said that's not safe.

[@c.m5043]

I am 6ft tall and have a draw length approx 28.5". Is this bow going to be too small for me?

[@kippie276]

Hey, Kramer I just made a new bow. I need to do tillering but it doesn't even bows a millimeter:(. If I make it thinner, do you think it will break? I don't know what sort wood it is. There is tape on the back.

[@kruesae22]

It is very important to know what kind of wood. Some Woods are not fit as bow wood afaik

[@kippie276]

@@kruesae22 I aren't sure what kind of wood it is. I think it something tropical, it came from my grandmother's cellar:) I think I am just gonna try to make it thinner and start a new one if it breaks.

[@kruesae22]

@@kippie276 thats the spirit

[@torresserg]

So I bought this exact bow from Amazon. Is the correct bow string length 52''? Let me know so I can order some string of you're website. Thanks!

[@rhashem1534]

Wood or Metal/aluminium riser which do you prefer? Also on the hunting door website there is a 60 inch wooden riser bow for a few dollars extra. Would you recommend that or this one? I’ve went to archery lessons but never owned a real bow personally.

[@OFGW]

I am going to buy another bow and I am looking forward to the rest of your reviews.

[@k1llerbean699]

Love your vids man i love your channel

[@AMGplays_]

You should review the mandarin duck phantom.

[@fordman7479]

I made a felt arrow rest for mine

[@dreadone6894]

Wha do you think of Lars Anderson?

[@geogemini8528]

I have one of these and loved it until I got a more powerful one. Not sure why you scored it so low.

[@Briansgate]

Is this basically the same thing as Phantom bow from Mandarin Duck?

[@jakebeasley3578]

Have you ever done a review on the PSE Night Hawk? I bought one that has a 45lb draw. I like it but i am a beginner.

[@reubenjvr3455]

That's way too heavy for a beginner

[@jameshaulenbeek5931]

I asked him in a previous video about a good beginner draw weight... go low. Go very low. 45 lbs is a lot to draw back without having a good form nailed down. A lighter bow will allow you to learn good technique and retain it. Once you've got that, start working up and applying that to heavier draw bows. Get a 25 lbs draw weight bow, and go from there.

[@jakebeasley3578]

I have shoot a 60lb compound but i wanted to go traditional archery so i bought the PSE to start with.

[@sandramoskwa]

I disagree with you on where you should measure the draw length. The front face of the riser is where the straw length is measured so when you pull it back on your jig it should be to the front not the grip.

[@Hansflo225]

Opinion on the Samick Sage takedown???

[@Shimco]

I shoot 47# compound with a 24.5 DL. Should I get the 30# or the 40#. For fun and light hunting.

[@kramerammonsarchery]

I would suggest going with the lighter poundage so long as your state does not have a minimum # for hunting

[@Shimco]

@@kramerammonsarchery I got the 30#. I can't wait to set it up. Thanks!

[@jimmyneedham4346]

I have just got one of these bows and find it impossible to draw the arrow to my neck like i think I should be .I'm prettty strong so .Is the bow not set up wright or am i just not strong enough .?

[@sigmanarchery54]

Yes sir I think you can make it better with just a few things. Take care my friend God bless 👍🏼🏹🇺🇸

[@bradleyboots687]

Well darn. I already bought the black hunter based on your earlier recommendation and now I'm wishing I'd waited until you'd reviewed all the others. Still, I am enjoying it and it's been a great first bow. (Ok, actually second but the first one was a compound that I bought in 1987.)

[@joeytheetge9268]

Nice. I can't wait for more. I'm very curious about the horse bow. Thanks.

[@Beezyman]

oh my bow is exactly the same, it shoots great, on my channel there is how I shoot from this bow

[@nml5536]

will Kramer get all the reviews done before 2020 ends? :D

[@cherno2232]

Would spaghetti work as a bow backing?

[@groosbro1]

No, and don't ask again! 😂

[@cherno2232]

@@groosbro1 I mean it might actualy be good

[@groosbro1]

@@cherno2232 The box the spaghetti came in might work...

[@cherno2232]

@@groosbro1 naah cardboad wont work. It's basicly Just realy soft Wood. But spaghetti can compress realy well I think. Like waterbuffalo Horn on composite bows

[@cherno2232]

@Super and for the belly then? Together with allot of glue, so it won't shatter so easily?

[@Bowfella]

Update. I just weighed my 50lb bow at my 29.25" draw length and it was 69lbs!!! It's not stacking and my scale is calibrated. Neither the seller or the people on archerytalk know what's going on.

[@P47-i4u]

Another S for you Kramer. S as in side, does it come in left and right hand versions?

[@mortenjacobsen5673]

No, only rh

[@P47-i4u]

@@mortenjacobsen5673 figures only rh

[@mrphysics2625]

Should I buy this if i alrdy bought a near $200 bow that is too heavily weighted for me for now if i dont want to return it? lol

[@m.a.t.ifamilyfun1353]

My moto buy "none build them all"!! Or try at least lol

[@avery99ae]

I totally ordered this bow and waited 5 month's to eventually be told it got recalled

[@de14jabs]

Reason for the recall? Or did they stop producing it?

[@avery99ae]

@@de14jabs they ended up sending it after the recall along with a refund,also i ordered it from china ...now i cant complain .

[@abidwizardofoz9079]

Its an awesome bow.

[@cs4723]

Newbie here, looking to buy a bow. Question.. do u have to have rhe arrow rest or can you shoot off the riser? Thanks

[@TariasNiniel]

With real feathers you can shoot of the riser ( the arrow rest its a screw in so you can take it off, and also can upgrade it, i thing even could add a plunger button) but when shooting from the riser you should put/glue on some padding like leather, fur, or soft side of valcro on the parts that touch the arrow shaft, just to make shure you dont damage it when shooting off the riser, coz you really dont want the arrow shafts directly rub on aluminum with high speed.