Kratos Admits He was Wrong and Atreus Should Open His Heart Not Close It - God of War Ragnarok

[@TheNorthie]

Kratos has truly become a calm and reasonable person

[@zero_ambition1631]

You look like a calm and reasonable person

[@idkman6255]

He is always calm

[@plaza_family101]

You said it

[@GlitchBoy-ws5in]

​​@idkman6255 also bro in GoW3 : "Lmao, I'll kill civilians for HP points"

[@J.Valentine1031]

Freya: "With what Army?" You would think by now Freya would know that Kratos is the army.

[@kernay5780]

Kratos:-I am the one who knocks

[@jaysilverhood1264]

"I do not need an army... I trained The army"

[@godofcrap42]

"Woman, I am one of two of the only people who have been doing dick-all this whole time- I am the damn army!"

[@MLaak86]

Indeed - she and Mimir both steadily seem to gain a horrified yet awed realisation of what they're in the presence of as Kratos recounts that the legends around him are actually true, if not in fact actually undersell him.

[@Ghaltouni]

Kratos: "I am the army" Odin: "Not yet"

[@cosmic2750]

I LOVE that you can see the realization in Kratos' face when Atreus repeats his words to him. You can see him remember what he sacrificed to win a war, and the grief and resentment and years of pain it brought him. And he realized that he was raising his son to unintentionally be like himself; he sees a reflection of what he did in Atreus. And realizing that...he pulls the flare. Realizes that they both must be better. Realizes the choice he must make. Goddamn this game is a masterpiece i swear...feckin bravo Santa Monica Studios.

[@mackielunkey2205]

I think this game is the true turning point where Kratos realizes that all his lying, hypocrisy, and repression towards Atreus in the past, intentional or not, has contributed towards the damage that Atreus has done, and realizes that the only way to heal and make Atreus not be like him is to open his heart to all suffering and live as honestly and empathetically as he can, especially towards Atreus, no matter how much it might hurt him. People complain about Atreus's egotistical phase in 2018, yet they don't realize that it was caused by a lie by omission from Kratos, that he killed people who were deserving, and didn't tell him that he also killed the people that were not, and that was the lie that got to Atreus's head. Not the godhood, but the lie covering his godhood.

[@BL-9065]

KRATOS HOLDING BACK THE WORD "TODAY" WITH TEARS 😭 He himself has finally opened his own heart and it had to feel like a weight off his pained soul and at the same time a haunting first step

[@HinataChick38]

I like to think the voice actor was actually crying, but they kept it in because it was so impactful.

[@BL-9065]

​@@HinataChick38I wouldn't blame him if he did

[@Okkotsu86275]

Been waiting for this moment every since the first game, when Kratos told Atreus to close his heart. A great full circle moment for Kratos, to learn that real strength and power comes from one opening their heart. Especially in Atreus case, that what makes the young man the warrior he is.

[@lordzuzu6437]

Full circle? ⭕️

[@mattcollins3591]

It was this moment here where he came full circle. What a game.

[@adam-bf8li]

Everytime Atreus blames or doubt himself. Kratos : NO! You are the bestest son there is!!!

[@NotGoroMajima]

Christopher Judges voice and line delivery is just beyond amazing

[@badman3000]

Kratos has really changed I mean in the previous other God of war games he would literally go out of his way to kill innocent civilian sometimes.

[@Solid_CC]

True. So many innocent people would die because they were in his way or in the area of his battles. Even in the first game, the number of people who died in Athens because there were some enemies in the way

[@TheThreeHeadedDragon]

@@Solid_CC Also, players going out of their way to kill civilians because doing that produced healing orbs.

[@alastortheradiodemon469]

@@TheThreeHeadedDragon Aye man two green orbs is two green orbs

[@zcgamerandreacts2762]

​@@alastortheradiodemon469take it or leave it. We both know were taking it.

[@vegapreferred9344]

3:58 “Odin put them in our path to die” notice how he sounds sad talking to his son .

[@Vikturus22]

It reminded him of his wife and daughter with when Ares put them in the village

[@daffandialiffirdaus3094]

his first question himself back then after kill his first family, why his wife and child lefted sparta then he realize it was a traps by ares. after atreus know the midgardians is not a soldiers and just put them on they're path to die, kratos try to avoid his mistakes in the past so this cycle will not fall to atreus like what kratos did back then

[@kellenlean2076]

The realization that you can see in Kratos eyes the second Atreus says that is one of the most emotional and amazing moments in gaming.

[@mcbudderminer3114]

Best parent of all time. Actually admitting to his faults

[@thesilentsociety3252]

When Sindri said he came to fight, I knew he was to far gone at that point.

[@squashmallow2006]

When you realize Kratos specifically chose this moment to open his and Atreus' heart because of a village of innocents, as it reminded him of the day he made the worst mistake of his life: Sacking a village of Athena-worshippers and accidentally killing his first wife and child...

[@joshuahecht6866]

The worshippers of Athena. Along with all those he murdered in the service of ares.

[@lordjoek]

Both statements are true. Close your heart to an irredeemable foe. Open your heart to innocent suffering.

[@joejoejoe532]

The hard part is discerning those: often those involved in a war are neither irredeemable nor wholly innocent. In the safety of our homes, it is already hard enough to make sound moral judgments about how to evaluate and engage with people in wartime. To make those sound judgments while confronted by the trauma and desperation of battle takes someone of extraordinary mental fortitude, insight, compassion, and emotional intelligence. I try to be compassionate in my life while doing my best to follow the best moral standards that I can, but I do not think I can make such sounds judgments in wartime.

[@Vikturus22]

I thought id never hear kratos say open your heart to there suffering. This is true character development

[@vegapreferred9344]

Did kratos think about how ares put his old wife and daughter in the village? And that’s why he was so bothered by what Odin did?

[@benolr64]

I would think so.

[@Agusnico-yq5wv]

Ooh I never thought of that! Good point

[@squashmallow2006]

Oh yeah definitely. Throughout 2018 and Ragnarok, Kratos' one primary focus was to ensure that Atreus would never repeat his mistakes. After all, like Kratos himself once said. "Only a parent can understand."

[@joshuahecht6866]

Odin has become worse than Ares in that very moment.

[@Killzoneguy117]

"With what army!?" Freya asked the literal divine embodiment of all war and conflict

[@Kat-tu2dg]

I broke a little when kratos said “today son” hearing the cracks in his voice saying this made me tear up along with the music.

[@fg2002id]

Kratos shows better parenting than many parents in real life.

[@wintersoldier164]

That is important for a parent to show the child he is sometimes wrong. It's not about control or who's right

[@veslets]

I truly believe this is the moment when Kratos changed from god of war to savior of the nine realms

[@serfling38]

Technically only 8 realms since Asgard was destroyed.

[@MLaak86]

This is the moment we see, even if Kratos can't admit to himself yet, that he's changed - previously he'd never have given thought to collateral damage in the name of an objective. Here he cannot even consider allowing it, it's not even about if it hurts him or Atreus, it's that he knows it's wrong and thus cannot, will not, allow it to happen.

[@kellenlean2076]

I loved how sindri showed up like captain America all alone ready to fight for all the dwarves even though none of them would fight for him and Brok.

[@Twocoolman115]

I think it was that he just refused to recruit the other dwarves so that no one else would die

[@JinisBored]

5:57 most badass line of 2022

[@additiveartificer9365]

Angry Sindri is scary manm

[@SameerAli-cy8on]

Honestly it makes me pity him more cos now he's fully alone as he feared 😔 he did not deserve that fate but I hope he does truly finds closure after Brok's funeral

[@buildsparkling8911]

@@SameerAli-cy8on he needs to open up himself with the people he knows. The more he close himself the bigger the hole inside of him be.

[@jkelly3319]

Villain origin story you think?🤔

[@TechNinja.1701]

Good choice to show the contrast between Kratos' advice in GoW:2016 and his new advice in GoW:Ragnarok.

[@rainbowdash4898]

So does this mean that Kratos became a True Hero?

[@cpt.martinwalker6268]

He went from chaotic neutral to actually benevolent good.

[@danielhaire6677]

"With what Army?" Now I have this image of a portal opening and a large force exiting in Spartan colors. Kratos: *"SPARTANS, WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION?"* Spartans cry out and brandish their spears. Kratos: "This Army." Mimir: "Well, that escalated quickly and unexpectedly."

[@remingtonsteele5295]

That would have been awesome

[@TimmyStreams]

This is the moment Kratos became a calm and reasonable person.

[@jaysilverhood1264]

3:23 this is the equivalent of bombing a random village just because it was near the enemy base. Technically a war crime.

[@ladyofrillwater]

Indeed, but not on Sindri's part. More on the "specifically moving a group of civilians next to a military target as a shield", so Odin's the one going to the Hague.

[@SeaOfMany]

The Mongolians would use their prisoners as a meat shield and make them march in front of the army

[@benolr64]

A neccessary sacrifice to secure victory against the enemy. The civilians would be marked as acceptable loses if it means the enemy has been dealt with.

[@GustavoSilva-ny8jc]

6:01 Kratos: Have you not played the 1st series, woman???

[@andrewleyton6689]

That armor actually Looks cool

[@thejollyg4mer]

This was the moment Kratos changed his fate because he himself changed

[@mohamademirhareez4651]

Damn that armor looks good

[@Prime-o2j]

If kratos said, "Close your heart, he would have died fighting thor, but since he said," Open your heart, he won and changed history

[@jamesrussels2126]

what song plays in background when Kratos is speaking to Atreus?

[@veslets]

It’s unreleased but this is it kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnbLqqqbbtedgpY

[@MtwarriorTV]

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[@Hesienberg2020]

You ever find out bro?

[@ramjiwt8]

Though in today's world, it is best to always Close your Heart to Just About Everything. Opening your Heart in Today's World Only Leads Being Taken Advantage of and Left to Shreds in the Ruinous End.

[@thehistoryfreak13]

Wow Sindhi’s attitude is really shocking

[@sophiephillips7961]

This entire battle is epically paced with emotional beats and pieces of gameplay - the hype was definitely warranted. But I find it very odd that after all this, Atreus randomly goes off on his own. It doesn’t seem like the logical next step given Kratos is seeing Atreus more as a person than his son. It would’ve made more sense if they did it together honestly, and an actual moment before the shrine too. It kind of felt like a randomly thrown in bit so they (the developer team) didn’t feel obligated to write another game with them .

[@Isogyre_]

The entire narrative of gow:r is that atreus felt like he had no control over his self, being and living fully under what kratos said. That's why he ran off to asgard, that's why he left. He found an identity, and later kratos realises this, when atreus released garm and didnt berate him and instead backed him up. he realises atreus needs to be allowed to leave without any reprocussions, as if kratos kept it up, he would've fell into a baldur situation. It isn't random at all, it fits the narrative quite well, after everything, they were finally ready to become their own persons.

[@pytorman]

Best scene in gow history

[@victorcarlossilvavalentim4337]

Kratos as we know, indeed, died. The profecy was correct.

[@youngmasterzhi]

He is now known as Elpis (in theory)

[@dayzko7259]

whats the song mate?

[@matthewabraham5819]

Soundtrack?

[@semipunch857]

What chestplate is that?

[@squashmallow2006]

Nidavellir's Finest plackart.

[@murimurimrui]

Lol, and original creator of kratos hated this butching of his creation

[@supersaiyaninfinityunivers7193]

Close your heart to it. Come then we have a long journey. That’s so best beautifully his father. 🥹

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

And this scene ruined it

[@supersaiyaninfinityunivers7193]

@@wingsoffreedom3589 yup

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

@@supersaiyaninfinityunivers7193 people really don't listen to context anymore and Kratos Strawmanned himself in this scene.

[@supersaiyaninfinityunivers7193]

@@wingsoffreedom3589 I heard it now Eren

[@supersaiyaninfinityunivers7193]

@@wingsoffreedom3589 Remind that time was Kratos become The God of Peace

[@maxwellconnections7740]

Christopher did a way better job vocally in this game than in Ragnorak

[@WzrdPluto]

Shouldn't have made him say this

[@andresf9072]

its amazing how this game gets so much about manhood and adulthood wrong, its almost like the writers were just women and boys raised in single mother households, no wonder social decay is the mark of these times. We get the art we deserve.

[@E-101-Beta]

You must be one of theose ''alpha'' males who follows andrew tate and thinks he's special.

[@Christopher_TG]

Wrong

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

The worst scene of the whole game.

[@donlalo2002]

God of War players understanding character development challenge (impossible)

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

@@donlalo2002 no its just contrived and bad writing with no set up by the writers. Because when Kratos said it the first time he had just battled Baldur and Atraeus said he understood killing animals for food and draugur that were already dead but what about people? In response, Kratos said "close your heart to it, on our journey we will be attacked by all manner of creature. Close your heart to their desperation, close your heart to their suffering, do not allow yourself to feel for them. They will not feel for you." this was proven later when Atraeus had just killed a cannibal reaver who wanted to kill and eat him with no empathy or remorse for his child victim. Kratos saw the horror and guilt on Atraeus's face and he said, "close your heart to it" as a reminder of what he said. All this was beautiful and a growing-up moment as Atraeus is being prepared for manhood and facing the world by a rational, protective, and competent father. All good fathers know that it's their job to keep their kids grounded and realistic so they can make it through life. I loved these moments until the writers of Ragnorok strawmanned the first game with that scene. Atraues said, "I know, I know close your heart to it." Meanwhile, I was yelling at the screen saying " No you idiot those are random civilians, not people attacking you like in the first game. Kratos go remind your retarded son what you said." Then Kratos comes, opens his mouth, and says "no I was wrong open your heart to them." At that moment I lost it I was like "these writers just character-assassinated Kratos and ruined the best moment from the first game and butchered the context of the quote with their low IQ potato-brained, revisionist historian, take!!!"

[@ntfoperative9432]

@@wingsoffreedom3589 will you stop copy pasting this in every video that shows this scene please, I've already seen you multiple times in three different comment sections

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

@@ntfoperative9432 it's actually only 2 dude and why rehash an argument when I can just copy over what I said it's faster and if it isn't broken don't fix it.

[@marcusseung198]

Kratos says “you feel their pain because that is who you are.” He realizes that when he first told Atreus to “close his heart,” he was inadvertently teaching him to put aside his compassion, and now he’s correcting it. Atreus feels compassion for everyone, even the people he is forced to kill in self defense, and that’s why when they come up with a new plan to breach the wall without hurting more midgardians he says “today we will be better” because the old Kratos would’ve just let them die in order to reach Odin because it puts them in less risk.