Kristen Gilbert "Angel of Death" | Borderline Personality and Violence

This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of Kristen Gilbert, who is otherwise known as the “Angel of Death?”
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"That's why marriage counsellors so rarely recommend it" God, that dry humour cracks me up every time.

[@tiffbeevachou108]

I laughed out loud when he said that. I appreciate mental health pros with a dry sense of humor.

[@keariewashburn4680]

😂 perfect timing too. Smooth. Lol

[@dreammachine5014]

Odd that marriage counselors rarely recommend spouses beat the snot out of each other given the value society places on nasal decongestants.

[@jujujewel2172]

I bet he gets a chuckle out of the irony and absurdity while researching and writing stuff and this is how it translates for him... DEAD PAN I don't know what this "DRY HUMOUR" style indicates about the Dr. and his personality though... LoL He did a video on humour styles and personality, I'd need to refer back to it to make an accurate assessment... so to speak... 😋😆😁

[@gueguense8258]

I love it!

[@cUser691]

Married 1 month and she attacks him with a knife. Yet they “... go on to have 2 children.” I get trying to make marriage work, but that’s just extreme

[@H0kram]

A relationship with a BPD is a hell of an emotionnal ride, always going back and forth, hot and cold, reversing guilt and a double dose of emotionnal abuse, a shitload of lies and manipulation. All for the sake of the BPD person to avoid abandonment. Doesn't make any sense if not seing from their perspective, but that's how it is, and the very reason they carry a train wreck of relationships is because they can't, at least without serious therapy, see anything but there perspective. That being said, as much as I firmly believe that a partner to a BPD is a victim, and in most cases requires therapy after the abuse, a long term relationship with a BPD implies a codependancy. In other words, it takes a high vulnerability and a typically low self esteem, often combined with an empathy out of control, to stay for long and go as far as having children with a BPD. Anyone can fall for the sex and dating trap, especially because this personnality disorder often goes with quite interesting and creative aspects that makes the person attractive to a lot. As well as the " crazy girl " energy, to use a trivial yet commonly shared intuition. But not everyone will fall for a long term relationship, with such a chaotic mind. Takes two to tango. Ps : men have it too, I'm just less familiar with their behaviors and if they differ from a women with bpd in any aspect.

[@seriouslyjoking2]

@@serenepeacefulrelaxingmusi3874 That is what I thought, too. Actually, it is not Stockholm Syndrome, but Narcissistic trauma bonding. I know...I have gone through it.

[@rubyharris4422]

@@H0kram as a woman coming out of a 10 year relationship with someone with diagnosed, untreated BPD, what you say here rings very true, both in terms of them and me. I finally drew a line I should have drawn many years ago and would be the first to admit my boundaries were poor and I was easily manipulated. Dr Grandes analysis of the effect of BPD plus other traits on top is very interesting.

[@joincoffee9383]

@@H0kram disgusting people. Cut them off ASAP

[@yaelfeder9042]

@@H0kram We’re not all like that. Sociopaths are mostly physically aggressive or it’s low intelligence. I’ve BPD and am in therapy. Even before that say my senior year of high school, I learned to isolate myself when I had my breakdowns. Oh sure when I first got sick at 15 or 16, I did exhibit the behaviors but I was never physically violent. I just screamed at my friends but most of them were narcissists who just laughed at me anyway. But people with BPD feel every emotion intensely. You need to tell them to go to therapy or call emergency services instead of bitching online.

[@landofthelivingskies3318]

The very second that doctor demanded Gilbert stay away from his patients should have been a blaring red alert for the whole hospital. But nope...WTF??

[@DaisyLee1963]

It does seem shocking, but I can believe it. That doc insisting she stay away from his patients tells me her outlier behavior was probably widely discussed via the hospital grapevine, but actually doing anything about it big-time would be another story. The medical staff might consider it a risk to go public or even start a formal investigation. The situation's better nowadays in health care, but we're still slow to investigate/accuse co-workers of honest mistakes, let alone of nefarious actions. I'm not excusing it, but this unwillingness to face reality and accuse has to do with the high stakes involved in direct patient care.

[@mrcrabmoney]

That's how this started coming out of the woodworks. Doctors and nurses started putting things together. Bless that doctor for upholding his oath to protect, care and advocate for their patients. It's hard to believe this whole case was reality.

[@vyelkabobok]

this happens often with nurses who are killers. their coworkers become suspicious but are reluctant to do anything about it. Where I live there was a nurse with a high death count and the hospital even fired him because of it, but still gave him a good job reference so he continued to kill in another hospital.

[@testboga5991]

It's just too crazy. I wouldn't believe if somebody told me my colleague murders people.

[@emmel4fun]

He was a smart man. Unfortunately he was the only smart one.

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Amazing how murderers never want to die.

[@burntreynolds8312]

Did you forget about murder suicides?

[@evolutionaryadvantage]

@@burntreynolds8312 Your statement doesn’t make sense

[@burntreynolds8312]

@@evolutionaryadvantage How does it not make sense the guy Said it's amazing how murderers never want to die and I said what about murder suicides what is there not to get

[@RATD0GG]

@@evolutionaryadvantage That’s not a statement.

[@kevz2474]

@@burntreynolds8312 Let me rephrase my original statement, "It's amazing h ow serial killers never want to die"

[@maureeningleston1501]

Very interesting that she didn't want to risk getting the "Death Penalty".........but she had no problem administering it.

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[@FlipFlopped]

I remember watching a programme years ago, I think it was called Crime Stories and it discussed this specific case. From what I can remember - even though Massachusetts doesn’t have the death penalty, the veterans hospital was on federal property, so she would’ve been eligible for the death penalty. However, I think her lawyers or the jury argued that her children were very young and should’ve been given the opportunity when they are older, to ask her why she did what she did and it was granted.

[@B0rderLi0ness]

That's usually the case. These cowardly murderers are so scared of death but don't mind sticking it to others.

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@@B0rderLi0ness I agree 100%

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How ironic!

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The nurses were not a big fan of her, mostly because of the dying part.... 🤣😆 You wouldn't say Dr. Grande

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I thought it VERY dry, but I smiled.

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Yes

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[@rejaneoliveira5019]

Excellent review on BPD + psychopathy + narcissism occurring simultaneously. When you talk about mental illnesses comorbidities it’s hard to imagine how they all work together, but your explanation made it very clear. Fascinating topic. Thank you for this review and also for the new video on Patreon. ❤️

[@mattg7952]

Well that's why it's called cluster b, there's always some overlap in the 4

[@BlondeManNoName]

@@mattg7952 Yeah they all are pretty close to each other, the outcome is often devastating to the partners.

[@gregbeaumont5554]

My ex to a t, glad to be alive!

[@mattg7952]

@@aeris2001 Not completely wrong. It's been well covered in psychology that the strongest PD is the one diagnosed but you will see traits of others. Even Dr. Grande covered the subject.

[@LadyOfMaine]

This was a local story and I followed it closely. One veteran had gone on a home visit and begged his family not to take him back to the facility. They did and he subsequently was killed. Imagine living with that guilt.

[@margaretr5701]

Beyond sad to read that... poor man.

[@brendarudman8806]

Poor man.Shame😰😰😰

[@emmaevans7011]

Why couldn't he just say no? He was an adult after all.

[@emilyhollis4231]

This is a terrifying analysis. As a healthcare worker, I cannot imagine working with her.

[@DaisyLee1963]

I hope I never come across one like her as a patient, either...

[@natekeyes2297]

Unfortunately there have been numerous cases of serial killer nurses, and a couple of doctors as well.

[@cUser691]

@@natekeyes2297 Right- former doctor Michael Swango poisoned patients. Now locked up at ADX Supermax Prison permanently

[@paysonterhune290]

You MIGHT be working with an Angel of Death now...keep your eyes open, especially when demanding/incontinent/generally annoying patients suddenly start dying.....even if you yourself are secretly relieved they're gone..

[@1915FadedBelly]

Oh gee Payson let’s hope I don’t become incontinent, or you’re ever my nurse. Maybe try some empathy for people in distress or we might start offing ourselves which may be the better alternative in your care. Hate to be annoying.

[@Shylade]

In the hospital setting this statistical information is run through algorithms for all sorts of reasons. Sometimes there is a line drawn to better pt outcomes with certain staff. Like, when a particular nurse is on the floor Pts end up going better.. then reverse engineer what that staff person is doing right to try and replicate it. It’s not all bad to be scrutinized as healthcare workers. 99.9% of us want to help. This woman is absolutely insane.

[@SusanHL]

"It was a busy time in her life." LOL!!

[@shadetreemech290]

Really? Does murder keep one buisy?

[@BeckBeckGo]

@@shadetreemech290 well, if you want to get away with it, it probably does.

[@BeckBeckGo]

Guys so crazy. Five minutes after I hit send, a car hit me. I’m finishing this episode in the goddamned ER

[@BigZebraCom]

Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating what could be happening when you inject elderly veterans with epinephrine like this.

[@DaisyLee1963]

Haha gotta love that SICK humor...

[@BigZebraCom]

@@DaisyLee1963 Thank you. I do what I can.

[@cowboycalicojakk9685]

Lmaoooo

[@BigZebraCom]

@@cowboycalicojakk9685 hehehehe :)

[@bumpyroad1351]

good one

[@mrs.reluctant4095]

Thank you for distracting me from politics, doctor. 🙏🧡

[@Missliz441]

Oof bragging about living in the same town as Lizzie Borden is already a bad sign

[@c_farther5208]

funny, great comment, thanks.

[@donkeybutt3239]

Also bragging she was related to her. Be like someone bragging they were related to Charles Manson! You got to be crazier than squirrel sh*t bragging about being related to any murderer. But there is a positive side of that. If you have someone that wont leave you alone and is driving you up the wall, tell them that you are related to a serial killer and do it in a creepy voice like no emotion just a flat tone like voice, give them a look. They may just leave you alone. 😳😁

[@jdr9419]

True.

[@LadyOfMaine]

I would not brag about being from Fall River

[@jenniferjorgensen5545]

My mother was VERY similar. Also a nurse. But she was very violent, and homicidal. Her continuous suicidal tendencies were always a form of a manipulation. She has stabbed my stepdad in every home we lived in, and also smashed a flower pot on his knee after he was injured during fishing trip. I saw a lot of crazy untreated BPD shit growing up.

[@mattg7952]

Ex wife, mother in law, sister in law and step daughter all cluster b, for 14 years. I know how you feel

[@TCGTales]

I started dating this woman, within the first month of our relationship I learned that she had been married and divorced 3 times before aged 28, she had slept with 55 men, most of her relationships had been not longer than 6 months and prior to my b-day within that first 4 weeks she shared with me that she had a STD. I was so blinded by the LOVE bomb and co-dependancy that I ignored all these red flags. Months later she had already cheated on me, was always flirting with guys on social and i learned that she suffered from Borderline Personality Disorder and other mental health issues. Obviously within our time together, she was suicidal, the highest level of toxic abuse I have ever experience and overall hell.

[@jaymichael3079]

My cousin died a week ago and we buried him Friday. Your videos take my mind off it and you have no idea how much that means to me. Thank you so much Dr.

[@bcpr9812]

She has competition in the "angel of death" department. Another one you might consider analyzing is Canadian nurse Elizabeth Wettlaufer, who murdered eight elderly patients and attempted to murder six others between 2007 and 2018. She described feeling a "red surge" come over her before killing patients. She has been diagnosed with BPD and ASPD.

[@DoomyMacDoomface]

This case reminds me of Beverly Allitt, a pediatric nurse who poisoned her patients.

[@kategreaves_daisies1000]

Munchausen and/or Munchausen by proxy, springs to mind.

[@kategreaves_daisies1000]

Ending up in jail.= "Jumping from the frying pan into the fire." I can't imagine fellow prisoners and staff trust her. "They" must have to watch their backs around her.

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I love your analysis of everything and anything. Your very dry humour is brilliant and leaves me chuckling for the rest of the day. I do hope others appreciate it. Love your work.

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I appreciate it!🦋

[@mikepenny01]

The explanation of the interaction between the BPD, narcissism, and psychopathy was really interesting! Thanks as always.

[@zenawarrior7442]

What a scary woman & so sad for the victims. Glad she finally got caught. Thanks for covering this Dr G😊🧡🧡

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Evening from UK 🇬🇧

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Good evening from Scotland. :)

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@@mardukl 5:40 in Sydney now 😆

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Hold up - let me jot this one down... so attacking your spouse within the first month of marriage does NOT bode well for the relationship? Oh okay - got it! Thanks! 🤣🤣🤣

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Most shocking relationship advice I've ever heard. Who would've known? 🤣

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LMMFAO!!!

[@chwgyi]

Actually, people who grew up in abusive homes do not know that this is not normal. They have ways of rationalizing it, so now, when I can, I remind people who are in abusive relationships that some behaviors are just manipulative, unacceptable and I will validate their hurtful feelings.

[@SueP-D]

@@chwgyi Very good

[@olivebranch1081]

As someone born and raised in MA I can confidently say that being from Fall River is _not_ something to brag about.

[@user-us7vw3yq8p]

We have just had one of these cases in England. Babies dying one after the other.

[@yorkieluv3708]

Fascinating! I can't figure out how she got through nursing school with these traits. Thank you for the most excellent analysis!

[@cathrinetrulsson2109]

You should do cases of men with BPD. Why they don’t diagnose men more often? I’ve met men in psychiatry with this. Men get PTSD diagnose instead, which is less stigmatized, although it is a trauma disorder just like BPD, similar characteristics.

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The big plant must be on sabbatical or is no longer among the living. Of course I'm only speculating.

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LOL

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I miss the big plant 🇬🇧

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I miss the big plant!

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😅😂🤣🤣

[@andrew69007]

Great analysis on BPD. Also painfully relatable.

[@SarahDunlap]

I still don't understand as to WHY she did this. There was a hint that she liked nice things but was there any gain to off-ing her patients? Did she ever confess as to why she chose someone over another?

[@linusfotograf]

She wanted to feel power because she lacked it within, I dunno.

[@yotvvan2472]

She just wanted to kill people she was sadistic.

[@nicholeb5987]

Maybe attention

[@ryanlashton]

There are a lot of celebrity cases that I would love for you to dive into so I will be sharing them below in a list: - Whitney Houston’s fatal overdose, drug usage - Mac Miller’s fatal overdose - Chris Benoit’s Murder-Suicide (2007) - Tupac Shakur’s paranoia (PTSD behavior) in 1996 after 1994 shooting

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Reminds me to continue protecting my mind.

[@mrjovialjoval5781]

The Devil was once an Angel before the fall.... But it is kind of similar to that whole wolf in sheep's clothing analogy also.... A wolf is always true to it's nature....

[@TheDJGrandPa]

That bit about BPD and "true love" really opened my eyes up. Dated a woman with BPD once. It... did not go well lol.

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Excellent explanation of BPD Dr Grande! I think Gilbert was an extreme case. Incidentally, your cacti 🌵 were listening intently- they need mental health too!😘

[@raypreseau5360]

It was a busy time in her life. His comic delivery is better than you think it would be when he slios this jabs in. Its part of the reason i tune in to Dr. Grande

[@beeimaginative]

Have there been studies in how prisoners do in prison concerning the different personality disorders? I was wondering how someone like Kristen Gilbert would do with a life sentence.

[@mattg7952]

Look at the Susan Smith case, having sex with corrections officers in prison. Jodi Arias wanted a retrial because the prosecutor was mean to her. Nothing changes with them.

[@SableRain]

I can't help but wonder what her parents did to her when she was a baby.

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Omg! 🙌 Thank you 🙏 Dr. Grande for phrasing, “ through a divorce, murder indictment, and ☎️ calling in a bomb 💣 threat..........a busy time of her life!! 💯 “ I’m sooo gonna say that instead now, as in When people ask what I’ve been up ⬆️ to!!!

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[@gloriaelmore9092]

This is atrocious! For those of us who strive to do all we can to prevent suffering and give the best care possible, this is horrible! It is a terrible testament to our profession.

[@jackwalter2985]

Can we get a more detailed lecture on how people with BPD process relationships (both socially and romantically)

[@reneeolson4881]

I always love it when you list criteria for a mental illness...Im thinkin, "Shew! Well I dont have those so I guess I'm not nuts!" Never mind the lizard people hiding in my tool shed! 😆 Another very interresting video Dr. G. Thank you.

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Brilliant analysis as always. Thank you Dr. Grande

[@Julia-b9x]

I married someone with BPD in the 90’s. He got violent with material items (throwing things, slashing tires on my car, etc - all because he “loved” me so much) He never hit me though. I left after two years knowing that because, in his mind, nothing was ever his fault, the situation was just going to get progressively worse until he would eventually kill me. He was very manipulative also, tricked my whole family into believing what a “great guy” he was and that I was the mean/cold/cruel one for leaving him. 20 years later, we all found out he ‘s in prison for murdering a woman that he “loved” because the relationship broke up after a couple of months. Also found out another lover of his died by “suicide”. Mental illness and violence don’t mix well.

[@BlondeManNoName]

BPD is often very traumatic to the partners. I would know, been there & done that.

[@jabberdouche]

Your dry delivery of the line about attacking with a knife and marriage counselors "rarely" advise that course of action was brilliant.

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[@dardar267]

“.....so, it was a busy time in her life” 😂😂😂. “Nurses were not a big fan of her, mostly due to the dying part” 😂😂😂. Your injected humour in the midst of troubling diagnoses and stories is a welcomed thing!

[@DonPeyote420]

I mean... what's a little knifeplay between a wife and a husband?

[@sselassie3126]

Funny you say that cz MAN! THERE ARE ALL TYPES ON THIS EARTH AND SOME COUPLES STAB EACH OTHER! SOME POUR HOT OIL ON EACH OTHER... others can't even deal w yelling or name calling.

[@yaelfeder9042]

@@sselassie3126 makes me think of American Horror Stories lol

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Oh damn I tripped over a situation like this on my way here, ready for your analysis! Happy Sunday, Dr. Grande!

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Thank you. I wonder if I'm the only one noticing your cacti and them moving around in the background of the different uploads?

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The peripatetic fungi have been the subject of continual discourse.

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Welcome to the Grande family.

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And Bella! Don't forget Bella!

[@JohnDoe-fm8he]

I knew her… lived 3 houses down and babysit for the children. Wild story

[@2manybooks2littletime25]

How she could transfer from one CC to another so easily despite troubling psych testing is a mystery to me. She was certainly every red flag 🚩. You, as always, researched and presented this case very well. The alien lizard humanoids are even applauding!👽

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😂👽😁👍

[@sselassie3126]

Because even people with mood disorders/ mental health issues are allowed to go to college.

[@2manybooks2littletime25]

@@sselassie3126 she was in nursing school. Students are usually screened for mental illness and personality disorders before they can enroll in nursing school. I should have made that clear in my comment.

[@sselassie3126]

@@2manybooks2littletime25 I get that. But those students having a mental illness doesn't automatically bar them. And psych evals are notoriously easy for people to beat. Especially those whod most likely benefit from outside support.

[@2manybooks2littletime25]

@@sselassie3126 the psych evals and tests are, in truth, looking more for the personality disorders than, say, depression or OCD. They also look into any felony convictions. It's done not just for patient safety, but to protect the school from lawsuits if a student or former student does harm to a patient. You are correct that psych evals and the MMPI can be manipulated. Believe me, I had to deal with several RN's and MD's whose personality disorders took years to be recognized. Patients were harmed because a clinician was just having a bad day and they had to blame or take their anger out on someone; often, the most vulnerable patients paid the price. I was stunned to discover that not even an MMPI was mandatory prior to acceptance at several nursing or medical schools in the US. I am still smh at this, and similar, cases. I don't have any answers to the problem; I wish that I (or anyone) had some.

[@mrcrabmoney]

I was wondering if you would also add to the title Borderline, Psychopathy and Violence? Considering that was your main point that the pyschopathy and narcissism take out the fail safes that people with only BPD would have. So many people have BPD and are not violent tolds others. I have BPD. I did appreciate how you explained the 9 criteria. I clicked on this video because of BPD in the title and thumbnail, but it was more than just BPD (thank God!). BPD is so misrepresented in media so please add more to the title so it's MORE accurate and still clickbait-y. 🙏 When I was first diagnosed, my pyschologist told me not to Google BPD and famous BPD celebrities or cases, etc. as she didn't want me to freak out. She knew my own mental health was not fulfilling the criteria in the same way (i.e. "no wire hangers!" I know now.) Thank you for another great and interesting video!

[@mattg7952]

You would also understand triggers then. Not all borderline people are in the same situation. Stress induced psychosis and paranoid ideation can be situational. Wrong place +Wrong time can get dangerous fast.

[@mamashanshan2772]

This is very deep! Unbelievable when a person pops into ones mind on behaviors, it can become rather chilling! 🥺

[@kr3642]

My mom had this disorder and get away with stabbing an ex and waving guns around in her neighborhood. She also ended up accidentally completing suicide. It was a very rough life for everyone including her.

[@bryanbrizak2631]

I've been saying this for more than a year now Doc your humor is my heart💙🖤

[@B0rderLi0ness]

What you're saying at 13:25 is so true for me as well in relationships. I was diagnosed as BPD but also with some Antisocial traits that I actively work against. This is excellent.

[@w.lazariuk7763]

Very informative, dark and enlightening. Thank you!

[@commonwealpanther]

Dr Grande, do you have any thoughts to share about people like me who enjoy learning about true crime, in this boom of true crime storytelling? Is it bad? What does it mean about us?

[@JiveDadson]

I've wondered about that too. I am a compulsive law-obeyer. I have been known to wait through red lights at 3 in the morning when there was no one around. But I also have been known to binge on true crime videos. It annoys me that the Mafia seems to be pretty much out of business. On a possibly related note, I notice there haven't been any really good air-disasters in the longest. Someone please speculate on a case like this.

[@lnc-to4ku]

One person, with SO many horrible traits.... I love when you lay down your immense knowledge on the human psyche! Great episode Dr. Grande!

[@JustDr.S]

Yeah, must be a miserable life with all that going on. Or...maybe they don't care and it's fun for them? They confuse the hell out of me! 🙃

[@meganquinn8991]

I’ve been an RN for 30 years. This is disgusting! I realize why it took so long to figure her killing out. Nurses much like police officers tend to protect each other. Until it becomes outrageous. Also when nurses report on each other the reporting nurse is treated badly because management doesn’t want to deal with the offender. Nursing has become a HORRIBLE profession. I’ve seen it negatively change over time. It’s completely finance based. Patient care falls way down the list. I’m so upset about where nursing has gone. I can’t wait to get out!!!!

[@HermunthrudaWaldheim]

Such nurses are far to real. I nearly Fell victim to such a person, whole I was under intensive care after very servere surgery. A nurse caused me a blood infection, which nearly killed me.

[@Ozziecatsmom]

Did she mean to give you a blood infection? How do you know it was that nurses fault?

[@LolaJay_]

Another nice video, Dr. Grande! Can you please cover the Great Barrier Reef dive boat incident that inspired the movie Open Water? Did they plan their disappearance?

[@tortimeese]

I just noticed the faux cactus. Did the real cacti kill off the other plants? They do carry weapons of sorts.

[@ultraviolet6989]

Please do Dr. Death, Jack Kervokian.

[@maureeningleston1501]

Thank you, thank you Dr Grande this will be really interesting.

[@codyehret8168]

Where does he get this endless stream of topics?? Nevertheless, happy Dr. Grande is posting everyday.

[@polarbearsrus6980]

There's a murder encyclopedia, the national news, KZbin... just to name a few.

[@codyehret8168]

@@polarbearsrus6980 Lol, good point

[@rachelw821]

“Neither of those were true, according to her father “ I think we have to be careful taking the word of a parent who most likely has a vested interest in protecting the reputation of his wife and himself... I’m not saying that bad people NEVER come from good families but it’s very, very rare....

[@mrs.reluctant4095]

Great video with an interesting person featured in it. Doctor, I hate to say it, but this type of woman suits you so well. Suits your dry humor. Professionally you are made for each other. 🙂

[@paper-chasepublications9433]

That was the best possible explanation I have ever heard of Cluster B personality disorders. Thanks Doc!

[@elizabethgrogan8553]

Listening to the list of likely behaviour from individuals with various conditions, I'm relieved. My conscience is too darned sharp to allow me to slide to far from the beaten track.

[@tjkasgl]

BPD describes a client. He's compulsive, obsessive and relationships are a nightmare of stalking, begging and non stop whining. The constant threats of suicide to manipulate everyone has everyone in his life telling him to go ahead and do it. It's so bad I told my husband to tell the guy I am armed and he is to never come near our property

[@renee1961]

Good evening/night, Dr. Grande!🙋🌵🪴🌵🪴 Watching you, again. You know how I do things by now!☺️☺️ Hope you're relaxing tonight! Thank You!

[@Trex100]

Attacking a spouse after one month of marriage is not a good predictor of a healthy relationship. That was very useful. I made a note of that!

[@MyOrangeString]

Can you pleeeease do Xavier Dupont de Ligonnes? It's such a hot case in France, and Eurpe actually! The guy was in debt, he's suspected to have killed his wife and children, and he himself vanished and seems to have been on the run for years now. I really wonder what could have driven him to do like this. He was in debt, and I understand this would have led to suicide, by killing his family, hiding the bodies, then going low? Really scary and intriguing.

[@didirobert3657]

Could she have also been Histrionic?

[@mattg7952]

Histrionic isn't really used anymore, supposedly it's going to be phased into bpd sometime in the future.

[@ReineDeLaSeine14]

Meanwhile…Me, autistic with BPD: profusely apologizes for sneezing too loudly. I’m way more likely to allow people to hurt me than to hurt another person.

[@kimberlywalker_]

Exactly. That's what everyone wants to ignore about BPD. We let ourselves get treated like doormats, thinking that means the other people in our life won't "abandoned" us. Then, the people who walked all over us want to cry victimhood when we finally crack.

[@popcornlady1711]

That sounds like complex post traumatic stress and not BPD. Although I don't know the rest of your story. All the best! 😊❤️

[@ReineDeLaSeine14]

@@popcornlady1711 C-PTSD and BPD are very similar. I had to be diagnosed with something in the DSM-IV, so here we are.

[@kimberlywalker_]

@@popcornlady1711 CPTSD isn't a valid diagnosis in USA yet. For instance, I'm diagnosed PTSD + BPD. I might be a better fit for CPTSD, though I certainly have classic BPD symptoms at times. But, US Drs don't diagnose CPTSD.

[@Heaux722]

Second attempt at my Request for Dr. grande to do Courtney Love 🥰😂 love you Dr Grande ❤️

[@mattg7952]

Courtney is a cluster b across the board. There's the speculation that symptoms decrease with age and well, she's getting up there and not much of a public figure anymore.

[@cinnamongirl4896]

Yes please me too!!!!!

[@joannepreston6034]

@@mattg7952 whoa, whoa, WHOA!!! The doc will be the judge of that, sir😉😆

[@Heaux722]

@@joannepreston6034 love this lmao

[@nancyayers5067]

Just WHO is C. Love!?

[@ELECTECHNUT]

Excellent explanation/summary Dr. Grande! As clear and as concise as it could possibly be, given such a $#/€ storm of psychotic components! Thank you Dr. Grande. 😎👍

[@elizabethfigueroa6811]

I would love to see a video on the different stages of love you mention.

[@billiejohnson8468]

Dr. Grande your the best! I love your analysis of cases.

[@embermonreal]

i think it's important to note that people with borderline personality disorder are not *inherently* manipulative or malicious people. many of us can be and this person obviously was, which is why the stigma exists, but in general, borderlines have experienced trauma that completely distorts our thought patterns and makes us act in ways that aren't acceptable. the majority of us are aware of these behaviors and genuinely want to fix it. using myself as an example, i've been on medications and doing dbt/cbt and trauma therapy for years and it's completely changed my life and my way of thinking; i'm very self aware and actively work every day to avoid toxic behaviors and thoughts. there ARE good people out there who have bpd.

[@zulemazahir666]

DBT is incredible, I honestly wish they'd start teaching this in high schools or Jr. High. I think everyone could benefit from it, but of course borderlines especially. Anyway thank you for this comment, is refreshing not having to see something that wasn't demonizing etc for once.

[@Mountlougallops]

Wow! So well put Dr Grande. And only you can make me chuckle through the story and analysis of a horrible human being. Thanks 🙏🏽 excellent content as Always!

[@Subeffulgent]

Scary that one! I'm a recovered drug addict and I had a woman that fit all that that you described there. She even had an encyclopedia of serial killers 😓. I thank God I sobered up and saw the truth! Anyhow keep up the good work and God bless you and your family 👍

[@candeffect]

I worked for a hospital for 23 years. Hospital employees are no better than Walmart employees. Do everything you can to stay away from doctors and hospitals.

[@rcb4ever1]

Dr.Grande you are so well researched and have flawless delivery!!!👍👍👍👍

[@jonathanmadison12]

I am fairly new to your channel, but I was wondering if you could analyze the mental state of former State Representative R. Budd Dwyer, an incident heavily publicized in the media at the time of the incident.