Sig Sauer P365 vs Smith & Wesson Shield 2.0 - If I Could Only Have One....

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KSGunGuy

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6 жыл бұрын

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@Huy_Nguyen_USA
@Huy_Nguyen_USA 4 жыл бұрын
I love these "versus" video, they are so informative, and withstood time very well.
@rayepard2241
@rayepard2241 6 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are so interesting, helpful, honest and you do them to your best ability, they are not something you just throw out there. Again I thank you and you have become one of my favorite reviewers ...
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Ray! That means a ton brother! I love all guns and try not to be biased when possible. Cheers!
@GUNNYJones-zm5eo
@GUNNYJones-zm5eo 6 жыл бұрын
As a armed professional that carries both on the job and in my personal life. The Smith & Wesson Shield is the epitome of what others are trying to achieve. Thus far I think the Sig 365 is about as close as anyone has come to the shield. My agency has the shield on the approved list and that's what I carry. The Sig 365 has been tested by my agency and is not currently on the approved list. Not to be long-winded but I agree with your assessment of these two platforms. I to give the nod to the Smith & Wesson Shield because I trust my life with it and the life of my clients with it.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
I agree! Thank you and cheers!
@kilday9013
@kilday9013 5 жыл бұрын
So now that's been almost a year since your comment is the 365 on the approved list yet?
@danielrodriguez5463
@danielrodriguez5463 4 жыл бұрын
Its November of 2019. Sig 365 is still NOT approved agencies. I am told.😂
@fredkuhn165
@fredkuhn165 4 жыл бұрын
Spring rides on the mag and eventually breaks with the sig. Reliability before capacity or better sights
@FINAL-B0SS
@FINAL-B0SS 2 жыл бұрын
Sig 365XL FTW. It is the Goldilocks.
@davidcruger2237
@davidcruger2237 6 жыл бұрын
Hmm you give the M&P the price point, but then change the sights and trigger. Killing that price advantage. The P365 smaller/lighter and higher capacity. My vote is the P365 . Great video thanks
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Dave! Yes, the Shield does have the aftermarket stuff on it. Those were from previous vids but the stock Shield is still awesome. Either way, both guns are great. Chheers!
@kevinyoung947
@kevinyoung947 6 жыл бұрын
But you have to factor sending the sig back to get fixed and the shipping
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
I address that in the video
@chtomlin
@chtomlin 5 жыл бұрын
@dig duck not so much in this case from reviews though....365 shoots extremely well by most accounts
@sweetcostarica
@sweetcostarica 5 жыл бұрын
@@chtomlin *dig duck* has a point which agrees with physics. The SIG P365 slide & handle design may make it a little easier to shoot compared with other *sub-compacts.* But a heavier &/or larger gun is easier to "extremely" easier shoot due to the laws of physics. Note: Unless there is SIG magic involved *Chuck T.* ; )
@jackt6112
@jackt6112 4 жыл бұрын
Very good comparison. My thoughts after this: 1. If you could only have one, the P365 is thinner, smaller, which means the most comfortable and smallest practical and still be 9MM, which opens up your wardrobe. 2. If you could only have one, which is usually the case, the P365 is stainless, which means no rust, even after the finish gets scratched and being handled without wiping down the slide with oil. 3. If you could only have one, the P365 magazine can hold 10 rounds with no size or weight sacrifice, and magazine swaps increase your risk. 4. If you could only have one, the P365's barrel is center line is closer to hand thereby reducing muzzle jump. 5. If you could only have one, the P365 comes with sights that work at night, and thus could also be used for home defense as-is. 6. If you could only have one, the extra $150 for the P365 doesn't matter, and unless you are a gunsmith, if you replace the sights on the Shield, it already costs as much as a P365, without all of the other benefits. 7. From looking at the video it appears the P365 has more clearance for stuff to get into it from the top of the gun than the Shield 2.0. 8. If you conceal and carry other handguns, and are used to having your thumb in the area occupied by the slide on the P365, then you want the Shield 2.0. *Both guns can be ordered with safety features that are compliant for their state. Specs for Shield 2.0: - 20.21 oz. - Length 6.1", height 4.4", width 1.03" - Barrel length 3.1" - Magazine capacity 7 Specs for P365 - 17.8 oz. (However, when loaded with the 3 additional rounds...) - Length 5.8", height 4.3", width 1.00" - Barrel length 3.1" - Magazine capacity 10
@slye.phillips3120
@slye.phillips3120 6 жыл бұрын
Thank for the review. I went to a gun show and held...The Sig 365, Glock 26, 43, PPQ and M&P Shield 2.0. I must say the shield felt extremely good in my hand. I ended up getting the Shield with the Red CTL built in and must say after some range time Im extremely happy with my choice. The 365 is great in hand but not as good to me in my hand compared to the Shield. Great video
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! That's a great assortment of guns you got to handle. I agree that the Shield feels good in the hand and it's a shooter too! Cheers!
@GoFastNation
@GoFastNation 4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Im shopping and these two were my finalists. Thank you for a great comparison and unbiased viewpoint.
@vegasun8
@vegasun8 4 жыл бұрын
A really good, unbiased review on these two popular guns.
@Hawtload
@Hawtload 5 жыл бұрын
Sig hit it out of the park with the P365 features and design. Maximum capacity and minimal size. The trigger breaks at a nice point, not too far back like many other pistols. The only issue a lot of people seem to have is that it may be too small for a lot of people to hold comfortably, which is why those people usually go with the 12 round mag. My hand fits perfectly with the 10 round mag with the extended pinky grip so I'm in love with it. The $250 price tag on the 1.0 shield definitely has me interested in getting one as a backup/beater gun though. I'm sure you can't go wrong with the P365 or the Shield, just pick what fits best for you.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Well said! It’s great that we have so many options. Thank you and cheers!
@martinmccloskey2435
@martinmccloskey2435 4 жыл бұрын
I used to to have Sigs and carried one everyday for almost nine years. I switched to Smith & Wesson and love the Smith & Wesson Shield. I agree with your pick.
@milk1472
@milk1472 3 жыл бұрын
The Smith and Wesson will save your life better than cigs...
@kenschaefer9293
@kenschaefer9293 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison and the comments. You've helped me make up my mind on the purchase. Provided I can find one I'm going w/the sig. really enjoyed it
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
That's awesome Ken! Thank you and cheers!
@JL-rd9bq
@JL-rd9bq 5 жыл бұрын
Really thoughtful and detailed analysis. Thank you for the video.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Jon! Cheers brother!
@michaelschaffer5984
@michaelschaffer5984 4 жыл бұрын
When I first saw this video I agreed wholeheartedly in my appreciation for the Shield. I've had a P365 for about a year. Gradually I've come to the realization that the 365 and my future XL will probably replace every other gun I own in 9mm. They are just that good. I sold a Shield 9 recently still have another one but maybe not forever. The 365 is very good and you can't deny the capacity advantage it has. Love you videos they make the viewer think about what was covered more than others.
@gwcrispi
@gwcrispi 3 жыл бұрын
The P365 totally destroyed my "carry rotation". I don't carry anything else now. It is perfect.
@davegass1650
@davegass1650 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely miss these . " IF I COULD ONLY HAVE ONE VIDEOS " . But I'm sure it was expensive and time consuming . Over 60,000 Subscribers . Congratulations. You deserve it .
@anthonym.napoleonisr.6045
@anthonym.napoleonisr.6045 3 жыл бұрын
I have both the Shield MP 2.0 9mm and the Sig P365 XL and I love both of them. Great review and video. Good shooting and great reviews!!!
@chrisheet4762
@chrisheet4762 6 жыл бұрын
THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN MISSING ON MY EDC. TACTICAL CHAINSAW!!!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
You can never have too many! Thank you and cheers!
@maxfit68906
@maxfit68906 6 жыл бұрын
Great unbiased review. I'm with you on the outcome.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Team Shield for sure. Cheers!
@justinno2
@justinno2 5 жыл бұрын
I’m commenting while watching the video. My grandpa hit a target 75 yards away with my P365. SIG has the perfect angle on the grip.
@laughoutlos
@laughoutlos 3 жыл бұрын
What a great video! Keep up the good work
@RA-xl8si
@RA-xl8si 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree on the Shield. The 365 would be a great choice, but ergonomics of Shield not only make it more comfortable to shoot but leads to much easier follow-ups. Thanks for the honest opinion and great video.
@sklaft
@sklaft 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this comparison. I had winnowed it down to these two for my next purchase. Between you and the Honest Outlaw, I have decided: if I can run across a deal for the M&P Shield 2.0 around 350 or 400 I will choose it and just replace the sights and buy extra mags. But since I have never had a small carry gun, I will have to adjust to whatever I choose anyway. The size adjustment for the P365 will be the only knock against it, and I will have to get used to anything regardless. Therefore, the best choice for me out of the box is the Sig. I have resisted the idea of buying the Sig, partly because I already have the P320 in 9mm and 5" barrel. I don't want to be a fan-boy of any name brand. I'm really just looking for the best within my price range. A CZ Shadow 2 is not in my range and it's too big. I have big, and I can't use them for concealed carry. I think even a 4" barrel will be uncomfortable. I haven't seen CZ competing on the sub compact field, and they would probably be too expensive again anyway. Nope. The P365 has won me, short of a lucky find with the Shield 2.0.
@Buc2ky78
@Buc2ky78 4 жыл бұрын
I have the shield 9mm 2.0 as my everyday carry. Thanks for the video.
@ramonbenitez4093
@ramonbenitez4093 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thank you.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Cheers Ramon!
@charlesdudek7713
@charlesdudek7713 4 жыл бұрын
Love my Shield! Add to that a lifetime warranty and a better customer service experience and you've got a winner!
@Mr345696
@Mr345696 4 жыл бұрын
Only a matter of time before they make some type of a Shield 3.0 that has a staggered double stack magazine (like the Hellcat/365) and is the same size
@JV-tk9yn
@JV-tk9yn 4 жыл бұрын
I'm in the market for my first carry piece but I just can't get behind the P365 100%. I may just go with a bodyguard for now and hope for that 3.0!!
@blkbyrd
@blkbyrd 4 жыл бұрын
They basically did come out with a double stack Shield. The M&P 2.0 Subcompact. It's thicker and slightly longer, but you get twelve rounds for carry and the 17 round full size mags will fit in it for the range. (Also comes with a slip on grip extender for the 15 and 17 round mags) I love mine. They can be hard to find right now, but worth every penny if you can.
@Kmadams_97
@Kmadams_97 4 жыл бұрын
@@JV-tk9yn I wouldn't get a bodyguard. Go shield or m2.0 compact.
@Mr345696
@Mr345696 3 жыл бұрын
Running Bear same here man hopefully they make something soon! I could see them releasing it this Holiday season
@Mr345696
@Mr345696 3 жыл бұрын
Running Bear so true lol. Sounds just like my Shield I added night sights and the apex trigger/spring kit
@tomandpeg2390
@tomandpeg2390 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an excellent review. I own a 9mm 2.0 Shield -- love it. As they say, the grass is always greener, so I would like to try a 365, but my skepticism is in regards to mass/weight and recoil. Before buying the Shield, I carried an LCP-II 380 ACP, and the small size and recoil just killed my trigger hand. The Shield solved that problem, and I don't want to regress. Shooting the 365 should tell the tale for me.
@davidburns7905
@davidburns7905 3 жыл бұрын
When I saw the group you shot with the shield, I knew you would give it the nod. Quite a bit tighter group. Nice video, I like the format.
@markparsons1398
@markparsons1398 3 жыл бұрын
TRIGGER job did that
@Bryzle1
@Bryzle1 5 жыл бұрын
Before last year, I'd never felt compelled to own a weapon until a stranger decided to come into my home unannounced while I was there. Thankfully nothing bad happened after the confrontation. But afterward, I sat down to KZbin and started researching hand guns. I decided on one, went and purchased it, asked a friend of mine who had some property so he could teach me how to shoot. Went to the property with 3 other people and took turns shooting a 3" metal flapper from 50'. Nobody there ever fired/owned the gun I bought. Not knowing how proficient they were, after seeing them shoot. I thought, these guys' guns are out of whack. It seemed they couldn't shoot straight. It was my turn. I shot about 50 rounds. To everyone's amazement, I hit the bullseye every time. I'd never fired a handgun before. They didn't believe me. Then they shot my gun with about the same results. I shot theirs, they were all much heavier, bigger grip, etc. I had a more difficult time and couldn't hit the target as well. I am 5'7" and they were about the same. Our hands were all about the same. All I know is, the gun fit my hand well. It was comfortable, it did what I wanted. It shot straight and I could hit what I aimed at. Since then I've put about a 1000 rounds through it. Never a misfire or a jamb. I clean it every 200 rounds or so. I buy whatever FMJ copper that's on sale and never steel at the recommendation of the sales guy where I bought it. The gun, S&W Shield 9mm... not the 2.0. It still shoots like it was brand new and just as well with the same results and couldn't be happier with it. Then again, what do I know?
@richardryan2827
@richardryan2827 5 жыл бұрын
Both guns are great. I've shot both. Own the p265 and many more. Important thing is you own a gun at all and are ready to protect yourself and family.
@jaywinters2483
@jaywinters2483 4 жыл бұрын
Good for you for being proactive & arming yourself. We need more good people like you armed and able to protect yourself & others.
@jerrylum5123
@jerrylum5123 4 жыл бұрын
Love the Shield! Added a Hogue slip on grip, Apex trigger, extended mag release, HYVE mag extension, custom back plate, Olight PL Mini 2 light and night sights. Fun gun to personalize and after 500+ rounds, not 1 misfire after modifications. Love Sig too, both great guns, but can't personalize the Sig like I did with the Shield.
@KamikazKid
@KamikazKid 3 жыл бұрын
I did the hogue grip, and mag extension for my shield I've carried it for 5 years, and I usually fire a 100 rounds a month, and haven't had any issues. This gun is a rugged little champ.
@drewblack7142
@drewblack7142 3 жыл бұрын
How did you put on a Olight with no rail on the shield?
@KamikazKid
@KamikazKid 3 жыл бұрын
@@drewblack7142 the 2.0 version has a pic rail.
@drewblack7142
@drewblack7142 3 жыл бұрын
@@KamikazKid Ty
@raymondmaglaris4149
@raymondmaglaris4149 3 жыл бұрын
yeah sig has that proprietary rail i dont like so much. i want to get a custom grip module for my p365xl . i dont need the mag extensions 12 is enough for me and its crazy concealable. also thinking about the sig romeozero rds.
@Firearms101
@Firearms101 6 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Thanks for sharing brother.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Cheers 101!
@TheJRich24
@TheJRich24 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree about having steel sights! Mandatory in my opinion as well brother. Great video. 👍🏽
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Joshua! Thank you and cheers!
@robertallen8841
@robertallen8841 3 жыл бұрын
Sold the 365. The grip is just too small. It’s like holding the box toothpaste comes in under a gun. It made me shoot my other handguns poorly because of the adjustment made for gripping it. M&P for sure, and it shoots softer for that second or third follow up round.
@stiftarcory4364
@stiftarcory4364 3 жыл бұрын
So you have Soft hands and can’t handle 9mm recoil, it’s obvious you don’t own a shotgun.
@HalfCrazy520
@HalfCrazy520 3 жыл бұрын
@@stiftarcory4364 -- You are over-thinking Robert's comment. The small grip doesn't allow you to get a good purchase with both hands on the gun like you could with a larger grip. The 365 is snappier to shoot because of that. These days there's the Shield Plus...
@DapperSapper515
@DapperSapper515 2 жыл бұрын
@@stiftarcory4364 L comment Lmao… 😂
@ktfoot97
@ktfoot97 6 жыл бұрын
Your choice is understandable from a training perspective. I've run 300 rounds through my P365 and I plan on taking a few classes with it to get used to the differences between it and the thicker double stack subcompacts that I am used to. It is fairly snappy but very accurate. After 1,000 plus rounds and a couple of classes, I should feel very confident with it. I hope so because I've already mentally committed.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! The 365 is a great gun for sure. Keep me posted on how it runs long term. I love hearing updates from everybody. Cheers!
@jakeenders7
@jakeenders7 6 жыл бұрын
Saw the last video and subbed hoping to see this one, so happy to receive the notification!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for subbing Jake! Welcome aboard and glad you liked the vid! Cheers!
@tony2169
@tony2169 5 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite gun channels subbed.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Cheers!
@crucialfarmsurbanandfresh
@crucialfarmsurbanandfresh 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you this video helped me decide on the p365 just bought it today
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
@joshuasterling2144
@joshuasterling2144 4 жыл бұрын
In the end I ended up with the Tac Pack 365, three 12 round mags etc. Also this version comes with the ambi thumb safety, which I dont mind at all. Nice thing about the safety is that you can operate the gun as far as racking the slide and loading one in the chamber, which in turn is useful for taking it out of the chamber. If you have a 1911 the safety is in a great place and your thumb easily sweeps over it, great placement. The engagement is audible and very tactile. Sights and ergos and trigger range from great to fantastic.
@richardlombardi4198
@richardlombardi4198 5 жыл бұрын
Very good and fair comparison. Excellent video
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Cheers!
@xguo2004ify
@xguo2004ify 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video👍
@CaptainRon956
@CaptainRon956 Жыл бұрын
Can’t go wrong with the Smith & Wesson Shield. You’re getting an extremely reliable firearm that’s approved by most LE agencies PLUS the occasional factory rebates! My daily is a gen 1 M&P shield 9 however I recently picked up a 2.0 plus for $324.99 after rebate! A far cry from a base Sig 365 @ $499.
@jimmyp5487
@jimmyp5487 5 жыл бұрын
I got the shield9 2.0 and like the “full” size feeling of the pistol. Wish it had better capacity but I carry spare mag. I havnt got a chance to shoot the p365 yet. Got to grip it in the gun shop and gotta say it feels great in the hand!
@danielbarrios7420
@danielbarrios7420 4 жыл бұрын
That’s the video I was looking for!! I have owned the Shield for about 5 years and I love it. I just ordered he 365 and I can’t wait to start shooting it.
@roncurry3628
@roncurry3628 4 жыл бұрын
How are you liking shooting them both? I'm deciding now.
@danielbarrios7420
@danielbarrios7420 4 жыл бұрын
Curry In A Hurry Automotive Mobile Mechanic in my opinion the 365 shoots better and feels a little bit better on my hand. I have small hands, it has less recoil
@troyking694
@troyking694 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought my first ccw gun a couple weeks ago and I was looking at these 2 plus a couple others . I ended up with the sig 365 tacpac , came with a case , holster and 3 10+1 mags, I also bought 3 15rd mags when I picked up the gun. The sig was more comfortable to me then the others. Found it to be accurate at 30ft and out of the box work flawlessly. Now other family members want one but can’t find one . It was nice when pick up the gun from the store they keep ammo just for gun purchasers so you will have ammunition when you buy your gun .
@shenmue5507
@shenmue5507 3 жыл бұрын
I purchased that same setup back in December! I tested the trigger and it breaks at 4.6 pounds which is amazing for an OEM trigger. It's now my pocket gun and im glad I purchased the one with the external safety. I love the gun but I still prefer my upgraded shield as a hip gun. I have big hands so I can't shoot the p365 with speed like I can with the shield. It's still a great gun and I think it's the best one for a female. If I had a wife or daughter the p365 is the one I would buy for them. It's basically all you need for Concealed Carry but it's not my top choice because of my hand size. Even with the hogue grip it doesn't feel as good as the shield in my hands. Im red/green color blind so the sights on the p365 doesn't work very well for me. Everyone has different hand sizes and eye's so there really is no perfect gun. Personally I think everyone should own both pistols because they're both awesome. Now I have the perfect pocket gun and the perfect hip gun for Concealed Carry 😁👍. It's good to have more than one small Carry pistol because it's what you're going to carry the most.
@andyelwood7123
@andyelwood7123 5 жыл бұрын
This topic could go on for years. The most important thing is that which everyone u choose it has to serve its purpose. That is comfort grip, trigger, sights, rounds etc. Make sure its comfortable and u can shoot actuate, thats the point. It DON'T matter which brand u carry.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Very good point! Thank you and cheers!
@JamesSanders
@JamesSanders 4 жыл бұрын
Just got a 365 with manual safety, love the crisp feel, reminds me of a 1911, nice!
@mdd1963
@mdd1963 4 жыл бұрын
oddly, SIg does not even list the thumb safety model variants on it's website...
@ramin-vk9yx
@ramin-vk9yx 5 жыл бұрын
Best reviews...truly they are and so articulate and polite. Thank you
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Ramin! Cheers!
@Beauti4skin1
@Beauti4skin1 5 жыл бұрын
@@KSGunGuy01 Thank you buddy, I really meant it. I see lots of these reviews and yours are the best and I don't have to worry about my little kids hear your words unlike other reviews when they use so much profanities and bad words. take care man!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
I like a clean channel. Means my family can watch it as well! Thanks again!
@gud2go50
@gud2go50 3 жыл бұрын
I have both old versions of each and I was struggling with what I would carry even after range sessions, But your video lead me to the road to nowhere "Ringo Star" no , I will carry the P365, but not ashamed to carry the S&W when need be. Thanks for your eval.
@rickycooper8269
@rickycooper8269 4 жыл бұрын
I have the 365XL on reserve, but am strongly considering switching to the M&P. It's about $150 cheaper and I don't think the difference is that great. Its an EDC not a range toy.
@thomasburrows7806
@thomasburrows7806 4 жыл бұрын
I love my Shield. Try some Talon grips and it takes it to a new level. I put some Trijicon HD night sights on mine and an Apex spring kit modification and I feel that I have the ultimate carry piece.
@frednothstine2185
@frednothstine2185 3 жыл бұрын
I have them both! I like them both. Having said that, I agree with you 100% I had two of the Shields when the Sig came out and was on the cover of every Handgun Magazine. I had to have one! I have told my shooting buddies that if I could only have one it would be the Shield and today I saw your well written review. Nice job.
@bmzpower
@bmzpower 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid . Very helpful
@BigFreakingDaddy
@BigFreakingDaddy 3 жыл бұрын
Miss you KS, Just got the Shield Plus. Hope you and your family are doing well.
@siddulle5513
@siddulle5513 5 жыл бұрын
I have neither pistol. But, Inappreciate the objective appraisal. Makes me think. I do have the Sig 938. Happy with it.
@chino03emiliz86
@chino03emiliz86 5 жыл бұрын
Great review, thank you !
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Thank you and cheers!
@cheeng1
@cheeng1 Жыл бұрын
Great review & info. I own both and completely agree. I picked up the 365 about a year ago and it's very nice, but I too had to make adjustments to my normal shooting for it because of it's small size. If you're hands are smaller, then the 365 is probably a wonderful firearm. But for me it was quite challenging to shoot accurately as I'm used to with my other firearms.
@lorneholtzclaw4505
@lorneholtzclaw4505 6 жыл бұрын
Loved the comparison . My wife owns Shield 9mm Performance Center and I have the Shield .45 Performance Center, and yesterday I just purchased I used P320 Compact. I work at a Sporting Goods box store where I sell guns and ammo along with shooting competition so I get s chance to trigger rounds down range the 365 is one I still havnt held let alone shoot. So keep up the thorough videos, excellent job.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Shields are great guns for sure. The Shield 45 is a great shooter, especially for its size. Hopefully you’ll get a chance to shoot the 365 soon! Cheers!
@KamikazKid
@KamikazKid 5 жыл бұрын
I love my Shield, it's been a champ since I picked it up new for $350 never had any issues, I've run +p in it fine, I've run it fine without cleaning it. I've rented the P365 twice, the first time it broke the recoil spring on firing the third magazine, the second time I had light primer strikes and failures to feed with winchester white box. It's a shame I want to like the P365, I think the design is going to be great if they can just work out the bugs, but for right now I think the shield is the winner wait for the next generation on the P365 when the issues are sorted.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
@Quamperfectum
@Quamperfectum 5 жыл бұрын
I have a late ‘18 model P365 and NRA P365, with both well over 500 rounds and no issues. They feel so right I had to buy it twice. Haha. P.s I got a 9mm Shield too but the NRA P365 is my 1 ccw pistol.
@devin7376
@devin7376 5 жыл бұрын
One thing I didn’t hear you mention and would have liked to hear is what are my future problems more than likely going to be and what to look for as in signs of future failure. I would go with the 365 But great video man! You done a kick ass job! 🤘
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! It’s tough to know the future issues with the 365 yet, though they seem to be doing much better in newer releases than the 1st editions. Cheers Devin!
@doubleedge7250
@doubleedge7250 6 жыл бұрын
Love my 2.0 shield. Dont have the 365 yet but i will! I enjoy your videos!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! Thank you very much and cheers!
@burkeofmellowpark3472
@burkeofmellowpark3472 6 жыл бұрын
From Burke in WA.4/20/18. EXCELLENT review. Both guns are top. I pocket carry a shield9 w.green Viridian laser. (Ret.l.e.o.42 yrs.) The SHIELD is available w.external safety if U want one; 365 does NOT. My SHIELD9 carries 10+1 (mag-guts+2). For me, the SHIELD wins. Not 1 failure or issue. It shoots wonderfully and comfortably. It eats ALL ammo 365 can't be found in Seattle area @ this time.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome Burke! A great gun for sure brother. Cheers!
@johnmayfield7068
@johnmayfield7068 5 жыл бұрын
You can get 365 with safety
@alexanderewing6312
@alexanderewing6312 5 жыл бұрын
My friend has one on order from the west coast army in Belview.
@kmsharley75
@kmsharley75 6 жыл бұрын
Love my Shield 2.0 ,and her big brother, the Compact 2.0! Smith is really taking off the gloves this time around, excellent videos. 👍
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Well said! I do agree with that 100%. Thank you and cheers!
@VenomousKills
@VenomousKills 6 жыл бұрын
kmsharley75 that's the combo i rock 2.0c and 2.0 shield in rotation for carry.
@OGsDangerShow
@OGsDangerShow 5 жыл бұрын
I too use the Shield to back up my 2.0 Compact. At work I carry the M&P40 so I carry a Shield 40 on my vest. Great little guns. I’m sure the SIGs are great, but I’m not going to invest in new holsters, mags and sights at this point.
@cdbarrett81
@cdbarrett81 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an excellent video. I’m currently in the market and haven’t done anything but the feel check on the Shield M2.0. It felt really comfortable. After shooting a G43 and P320 recently, I’m looking closely at the 43X, P365, and Shield 2.0. I like the value of the X-ray sights being factory installed, as well as the trigger being highly serviceable out of the box. I think the Sig is definitely higher on the list for me.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Right on! All good guns for sure. Thank you and cheers!
@ShotgunMikey
@ShotgunMikey 6 жыл бұрын
Wow I consider this an upset for sure! I love the if I could only have one series ! Being the smallest gun isn't all ways the best thing great video !
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Mikey! I was on the fence but in the end, the Shield is just awesome. Cheers!
@usmw1
@usmw1 5 жыл бұрын
After you replace the sights and trigger on the shield, it's actually more expensive and you have to do both for it to be in the ballpark. P365 is better quality, smaller, and just a better design. I carry a P365 and I love it. Good job Sig.
@tomsmith2215
@tomsmith2215 2 жыл бұрын
sales #s are a good metric, and give the edge to the Shield, per free market objectivity. ill run MP shield over everything else. way more reliable and durable
@Altekameraden79
@Altekameraden79 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomsmith2215 I am a Smith wood and steel guy, but never tried their autoloaders. Purchased a .380 Shield EZ for a new female shooter as a gift. I had a hard time letting it go to the intended recipient. I love my P226 but I am a fan of M&P Shield 9mm, plus it fits my lengthy hands better than Sig compacts. Shield is just as ergonomic as a Walther CCP M2 which fits like a glove with Talon grip tape.
@tomsmith2215
@tomsmith2215 2 жыл бұрын
@@Altekameraden79 I ended going w a p365 but I do like shields. If they did right side safety I'd have got the +
@carbonfibercrypto2919
@carbonfibercrypto2919 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomsmith2215 higher sales for cheaper guns
@tomsmith2215
@tomsmith2215 2 жыл бұрын
@@carbonfibercrypto2919 I like shields ended up getting a p365 tho
@landonjones676
@landonjones676 3 жыл бұрын
I have both and love both. Granted I polished the barrel on the shield and did a full apex trigger job on it as well due to mine being the 1st gen shield. Both really are decent carry guns but the p365 definitely has the edge on concealment.
@ChrisB-zz8dh
@ChrisB-zz8dh 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Shield. So accurate and easy to shoot. Great fire arm. Really fun to shoot also.
@69CamaroSS
@69CamaroSS 6 жыл бұрын
Love these videos! One suggestion.....when you place them side by side on the table you should have the targets shot by them beside each gun so we can compare them by seeing them at the same time!!!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the suggestion! Cheers!
@nateschlegel8448
@nateschlegel8448 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Loved the comparison between those two awesome carry guns. I have owned 2 of the original Smith & Wesson Shields (1.0 model) and was pretty impressed with the weapon. However, in your video you make note that you've added a trigger package from Apex, and also changed out the sights. If this had been a straight up stock comparison, hands down the P365 wins. I have my P365 as my EDC, and haven't ever had any malfunctions. I did replace my Springfield XD-S 9mm 4" with the P365. Love the gun, doubt I'll ever change the P365 out for anything else. For me, it's the perfect carry gun.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Very true that the Shield has some enhancements and out of the box, the 365 offers quite a bit. I still opt for the Shield, but just barely. I agree about the experience and haven’t had function issues with my 365 either. I think that hype is dying down (which is a good thing). Cheers Nate!
@pewbangpew8109
@pewbangpew8109 3 жыл бұрын
All I own are S&W’s but dam does that P365 look and sound appealing 🤤🤤
@alexalvarado2693
@alexalvarado2693 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the XL version and have to say man the grip and ergonomics are fantastic. I love it so much I stop carrying my VP9SK and the Sheild for it
@greatvidz2755
@greatvidz2755 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexalvarado2693 Hey I just recently bought one How do you like it so far and if you don’t mind how much was it
@shenmue5507
@shenmue5507 3 жыл бұрын
The p365 is the best pocket gun but the shield fits the hands a lot better. So I use my p365 as a pocket gun and my shield as a hip gun. I say buy both.
@joedekock
@joedekock 3 жыл бұрын
I’m the same. S&W through and through for my whole life. M&P 9 gen 1 is my favorite firearm I own. My primary carry is a 636 J Frame. I’ve been putting off a small semi auto 9 for carry for years. I went back and forth between the M&P shield, Kimber Micro 9, Hellcat, and Sig P365. I held the hellcat and ruled it out instantly as I didn’t like it’s ergonomics. A friend has the Kimber Micro 9 and I loved how it felt, fit, looked, and carried. The only knock was it has 7+1. It came down to the shield and P365. I went P365 as it felt just as good in my hand as the shield but has more ammo capacity, and is a tad more versatile due to its slightly smaller size. I carry the 12 round mag when I carry it OWB and I carry the 10 round flush plat mag IWB or pocket carry. The shield is too big for me to pocket carry, slightly too large for me to feel comfortable IWB carry.
@calvinlyles5828
@calvinlyles5828 6 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed the video
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Cheers!
@williamgrissom1995
@williamgrissom1995 3 жыл бұрын
After watching you shoot both, I noticed that the shield had a better recoil than the 365. The 365 seemed to recoil back and wavered side to side a bit. But the shield was straight back mostly. So you seemed to shoot it more confidently with a repeatedly quicker next shot. I think this is to do with the shorter grip mostly. But the shorter barrel does make the issue worse. I saw the xl 365 does better with the longer barrel. But the short grip is both its best and worse feature in my opinion. The grip on the 365 looks like it would be great for me with my small hands. But I think I'd have the same result and would find the shield to be better to shoot. Thank you for the video. As always your comparison was very well done and I really appreciate hearing your opinion. 😎👍
@timewing4611
@timewing4611 3 жыл бұрын
For people complaining about you checking to make sure it’s not loaded should not have guns. That’s gun safety 101. I check my guns always even though I know for a fact I put it in the safe unloaded
@timewing4611
@timewing4611 3 жыл бұрын
@Grey Man which would make you the dude who has a negligent discharge
@youcanthide004
@youcanthide004 4 жыл бұрын
Own both, love both. For me EDC P365 all day. 12rounds, no brainer.
@jfsebastian7811
@jfsebastian7811 4 жыл бұрын
Left hand conversion caught my ear on the P365. The P365 is on my short list. Thank you.
@chrishuffman6734
@chrishuffman6734 6 жыл бұрын
Exceptional review!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Cheers Chris!
@lukedawg357SIG
@lukedawg357SIG 6 жыл бұрын
Great review I think you made the right pick S&W Shield is hard to beat thanks for sharing.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Luke! Both are great but the Shield just fits like a glove for me. Cheers brother!
@Edward101z
@Edward101z 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making the Video. Great elaboration, and breaking it down. MAC (Military Arms Channel) opened my eyes on the Sig P365. With all the problems Sig is having with it right now, there is no way in hell I"m spending $600, and then, have to send it in for repairs after 800 rounds. The Primer Drag & Broken Firing Pins shit needs to be addressed by Sig BEFORE they send another one out the door. I'll wait until next year on the P365 so they can solve the problems. For now though, I'll run and get the S&W M&P Shield 2.0 for $349.99 {maybe even cheaper), and the extension for 10+1 carry. Hell, who knows. I may not even be interested in the P365 when they do get their shit together.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I agree, the issues seem overwhelming. Hopefully Sig can get things back on track. Cheers!
@tony7610
@tony7610 5 жыл бұрын
Good review as these are the two pistols I’m reviewing to pick one fo EDC. I shot the Shield but have yet to shoot the Sig. Thanks again and nice shooting.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tony! I think either one will serve you well. Cheers brother!
@duck-n-cover477
@duck-n-cover477 3 жыл бұрын
I've had and carried a Shield (1.0) since it was introduced going on a decade soon. It shoots like it's bigger siblings. Price was awesome for what it's offered me. No problems mechanically or cosmetically.
@UncleDanBand64
@UncleDanBand64 6 жыл бұрын
That 365 is tiny nice sights. I saw your comparison with 43. I thank I'd go with the 365. Just for situations when I can't carry my G19. Good video well done.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Uncle Dan! The 365 has been a real pleasure so far. Cheers!
@UncleDanBand64
@UncleDanBand64 6 жыл бұрын
KSGunGuy 👍
@jimboslice2570
@jimboslice2570 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I have 800 rds through my sig. Zero problems. The gun is a beast. Its my 24/7 "365" 😂
@UncleDanBand64
@UncleDanBand64 6 жыл бұрын
James Perry yeah it's a great option. I subbed you.
@MissChievousRN
@MissChievousRN 5 жыл бұрын
The sights on the sig are one of my favorite features on this gun.
@Risingnshouting
@Risingnshouting 4 жыл бұрын
Love the review, I went with the Sig. I’ve got small hands, so it couldn’t be any better in my book. Quit apologizing to the trolls and fan boys who won’t listen to logic. Ignore them and they go away.
@EvrttGrn
@EvrttGrn 3 жыл бұрын
I just picked up the Shield 2.0 subcompact Saturday. Both of these were on my list and the Shield was the only one I could find locally. Got it for $533 out the door at a local Mom and Pop Shop with 2 magazines.
@dcselwitz
@dcselwitz 6 жыл бұрын
Another excellent "side by side" review. Thank you for sharing/posting. (IICOHO...I'm team Sig.)
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Cheers!
@johnstathopoulos300
@johnstathopoulos300 4 жыл бұрын
It was between the Shield 2.0 and the P365 for me. I spent about an hour at the range with each and it really was a toss up - both shot phenomenally. Ultimately I liked the sights and the grip on the P365 enough to buy it, even though I've been a S&W man my whole life. Thank you for your review!
@zackcostigan2705
@zackcostigan2705 4 жыл бұрын
This was literally me 2 months ago as I was buying my first pistol but I grew up like smith and wesson i have their knives and the s&w m&p 15 but the sig was just too good
@jaesiahtoman2471
@jaesiahtoman2471 4 жыл бұрын
I have the Shield 2.0 Performance Center.....Absolutely Love it
@muzicwarrior
@muzicwarrior 3 жыл бұрын
It's there anything different about it other than the ported slide and sights?
@prolife5509
@prolife5509 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video man, i am in the market for small 9mm for sumertime carry and have been watching all your comparisons on them (walther pps,glock 43, sig p365, etc. but i am leaning towards the shield 2.0). I hope i wont regret it.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Happy to do it! I think you will really like the Shield. It's still my primary carry and I don't see that changing any time soon. Thank you and cheers!
@danrichmond4278
@danrichmond4278 6 жыл бұрын
Great video I Just gave you your 1,000 like on this video!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Cheers!
@Billfish57
@Billfish57 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. So many great choices out there now, all but a few are excellent guns. So many people leave comments how they know the perfect handgun for self defensive carrying. They really only know what they like for themselves because not every gun is the best choice for everyone. I would say that reliability is the most important thing, next, hand size is the biggest factor for determining witch gun to get, what fits a persons hand best. Round count is another factor but carry an extra magazine, something everyone should do incase of mag failures, and the round count becomes less important although still real important in a gun fight. Make sure your choice is small and light enough so you will always have it on you, next, get one that you can hit stuff at close range without aiming, you just point it and shoot, and hit your close target because that is a real gunfight, first hit wins, second place, you're dead. Tactics, not fast draw will get you shooting first, never quick draw into a gunfight, always see what is about to happen and be holding your gun when it does, awareness and tactics not quickness gets your shots on target first, first = winning. You won't have the time or ability to aim with those new night sights, it's a close up, point and shoot game your going to be in, so get a gun you can point and hit, then practice that. If you shoot or dry fire at least twice a week, you can switch gun choices otherwise, stick to just one gun choice. I shoot a lot and go 50/50 between Glock 26 and Glock 43 depends on what I'm waring or the mood I'm in. I am like the G26 best with the +2 base plate, extra 2 rounds is nice but mostly I like that base plate because it's way easier to draw. Good luck with your tactics whatever you do.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Great thoughts! Thank you for sharing and cheers!
@bamasux253
@bamasux253 6 жыл бұрын
>> KSGG
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome Bama! All three are good guns for sure. Glad to have so many choices! Thank you and cheers!
@PortCanon
@PortCanon 6 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your comparisons. I’ll have to rent both at the range this week and see how they feel for myself. Btw, I L❤️VE seeing the word, pop up on the automated closed-captions while you’re having fun with the shooting demonstration!!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Let me know what you think after shooting. That’s awesome that applause comes up, lol. I never knew that! Cheers PortCanon!
@Sanctified_EDC_Gear
@Sanctified_EDC_Gear 6 жыл бұрын
Shield 👍 great video KS. Thank you sir....
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Steven! I agree about the Shield brother. Cheers!
@WhiteNacho
@WhiteNacho 3 жыл бұрын
Fast forward to December 2020. Now go find some 9mm ammo.
@mikegriego3671
@mikegriego3671 3 жыл бұрын
You can find some, it just takes a while to look around and more expensive. If you had some rounds in reserve before hand, more power to you.
@WhiteNacho
@WhiteNacho 3 жыл бұрын
@@jlinka79 Where?
@WhiteNacho
@WhiteNacho 3 жыл бұрын
@@livegoodeathealthy5049 Now that's a trip! I can't find any 9mm. But I can get .357 and .38 defensive rounds of which I have plenty! As well as 00 buckshot.
@TraumaER
@TraumaER 3 жыл бұрын
Is it still hard to get ammo? I’m debating a 365 and glock 19/43/42. Hard to find new guns here in retail stores.
@steverussell6642
@steverussell6642 3 жыл бұрын
It's in safe top shelf on the left there's about 2000 of target ammo left😜
@aaronneumeyer5572
@aaronneumeyer5572 6 жыл бұрын
I haven't had a chance to shoot the Sig but have two Shields and love them. It's a great looking gun and I like your choice.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Aaron! I agree, the Shields are really good looking and great shooters. Cheers!
@accestos
@accestos Жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT PRODUCT!!
@grady7443
@grady7443 6 жыл бұрын
HOLY OBJECTIVE REVIEW BATMAN. You actually picked a gun OVER the p365. Foregoing the extra size and weight. Wonders will never cease. I knew you could do it.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Batting 50% since I’ve only done 2 comparisons with the 365.
@squidly2112
@squidly2112 4 жыл бұрын
I have not experienced the M&P, but I love my Sig 365!! .. totally awesome gun.
@nc_classics_9610
@nc_classics_9610 5 жыл бұрын
For absolute dependability, Shield! Although the 365 has some great features.
@spookerr
@spookerr 6 жыл бұрын
Great review.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Cheers!
@messer21
@messer21 5 жыл бұрын
Love my P365 in the summer! Always go with my G19 in the winter 😎
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
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