KTM 65SX VS APOLLO 125 RFZ! | 2 Stroke VS 4 Stroke!

[@HirakuagaKatsui]

It ain’t really a competition ktm’s professionally built and tuned so yeah.but if the Apollo was tuned better and properly and got a new carb maybe it would be stronger.

[@tiktokcomedy767]

They’re both professionally built ones just professionally built for racing on the other ones professionally built to be a cheap and reliable

[@tiktokcomedy767]

Don’t get me wrong though KTM‘s a way better company than that chinese Apollo brand obviously, but still like a TTR 125 or the honda 125 4t would still lose because they’re built for different purposes

[@Qotyn]

no IT WOULD BE FASTER DUMBY for 1 bc the ktm IS A 65cc and the apollo is a 125cc the onky reason the ktm won is bc 2 strokes have more acceleration than 4 strokes do but 4 strokes have a higher top speed if the apollo had a built and tuned up mikuni on it IT WOULD LEAVE THT KTM IN THE DUST.

[@Spookyz70]

What bike should i buy for under 1k?

[@creamyapplegaming8245]

Also the ktm is blown

[@astrobeats3863]

2:39 Most american thing i've ever seen

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

😂😂😂

[@M1sterKiwi]

☠️

[@rafaelheikkinen6027]

Bigger carb on the 125, they always come with a smaller carb

[@sanesaint8725]

True it is all stock

[@sanesaint8725]

But still that little one just the motor you can tell is built way better it's more like a YZ like in the old days or a CR or KX

[@choconuts5414]

I put a 30mm carb on mine and it woke the bike up it keeps up a little bit with 85cc 2 strokes

[@EpicATVvlogs]

@@choconuts5414 30 mm carb on a 125 ?

[@JacobRidesBikes]

If the 4 stroke was a Suzuki or Honda it would be way more even

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I do believe the TTR 125 from Yamaha is faster than the Apollo 125.

[@caltsells6839]

Bruh u think a Honda 125 or Suzuki 125 four stroke is going to beat a ktm 65 two stroke, my ass, the ccs don’t make a difference the 65 is a race bike

[@joshwm2323]

Wr125 would smoke the ktm i reckon

[@thibo2107]

I have a friend that has a ycf its like the appolo but the ycf cost more and i had a ttr 125 and the ycf is alot faster than a ttr

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

😂😂😂 you guys are great! I love the competition between you guys! 👍

[@damoncatlin734]

The ktm sounds like it’s slapping hard

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I agree with you but I've never owned any other small CC two-stroke so I'm not sure if that's normal or abnormal.

[@damoncatlin734]

QUADNATION 929 it’s abnormal the piston is actually hitting the sides of the cylinder all it needs is a top end rebuild

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@damoncatlin734 🤔🤔 hummm, I bought it from a person that had it rebuilt at a shop and when unloaded it at my house I pulled the spark plug took a flashlight and looked at the top of the piston and it was shiny and new indicating that the top end was in fact brand new so perhaps they did something wrong during the rebuild. I was thinking if anything the lower crank bearing was going which would cause slap in the piston rod. But I've never tore down an engine that had that kind of noise so I'm not really sure what it could be. Any body else have any suggestions?

[@damoncatlin734]

QUADNATION 929 they probably didn’t replace the bearing that the rod and the piston are connected with Edit:I got a rm125 and the guy who fixed it didn’t put the bearing in

[@brodyriekofsky844]

TEC D3M0N thinking the same

[@jagerpowell1458]

I like how you swapped bikes cause most of the time, speed is based on the rider. Sure those 2 are no where near comparable... but thanks you guys for testing it or we'd never know for sure

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

We now know huh, lol.. Thanks for the great feedback! 👍

[@ononewheel7]

Damn that ktm smoked him 🤣

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Yeah that KTM was a beast and whooped the Apollo no matter which rider was on it. My brother has some really good drag racing skills so when we swapped there wasn't any difference in the outcome.

[@ononewheel7]

QUADNATION 929 i need one of those in my life be fun for pitting at the races!

[@dawgfamily5588]

ononewheel7 thanks for spoiling it

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@dawgfamily5588 😂😂😂

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@ononewheel7 did you have to get one I'm contemplating on keeping both now lol..

[@BushkillRider]

Give the Apollo a good carb with some new sprocket ratios and it might be a closer race!

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Thanks! I'll try that!

[@bbad-0764]

Ya that’s what I did and it runs great now

[@kenna802]

What carb and sprockets would you recommend

[@TheMeagwhite]

17 tooth front sprocket and a new carb runs like a freaking beast. Fittings for jettings are hard to find though, don’t get to big of a carb it’ll just bog and cause a hassle

[@tiktokcomedy767]

Lol no

[@skipsterz]

Teach that boy to ring out those gears and not go through them like a granny going to church. Lol.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

😂😂😂😂

[@Zanderman2000]

Ktm is 20kg lighter and it has about 6hp more. It cost about 5 times more lol. Not 5 times better though... I would take 5 apollos over 1 ktm any day of the year. And the best thing is most of the parts are propably made in china anyways.

[@official6arz]

I've seen 2 of your videos on dirt bikes... Bro, I want my first bike so bad now.

[@Kingjvy_88]

17-37 gear set up nibbi pe22 carb big wheel kit and foam nibbi air filter w a ngk spark plug...the apollo would move harder!

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Thanks for the help!

[@speedyboi349]

Put a bigger carb on the apollo and they may be even Apollo is s. H. I. T. Compared to the peace moto😎

[@ampcarracing]

Stumbled onto your first impressions of the Apllo and really just loved the energy you out into your videos. I'm not a dirt bike rider just a regular street bike rider but I think you've just won me over to try out dirt bikes. Any recommendations for an entry level bike for a young 50 year old?? Active 50 year old that is!!

[@logertgogert3227]

I would say a 125 for a beginner rider but since you have experience you could be put on a 250

[@jamesgeorgevellavella1961]

I’m 44 learning on pit bike and bought 09 crf250r. Fk me the crf is an animal but high maintenance and TOO big for my short arse legs lol. 250 good if you fit on it

[@cozzyfromthepark]

If your kid asks for a pitbike I'm sure they will grow up gay

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

😯 I never heard that before! I'll have to keep a close eye on him! 😱😱😱😱

[@cwatson42785]

They sell an upgraded carb for the Apollo that opens it right up and is really cheap

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Thanks! 👍

[@ruffus8012]

it was impressive when that 125 got in front of that 65sx but that 2 stroke took that win

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I guess the initial low in torque of the 125 since it's 4-stroke but yeah in no time that two-stroke got into that power band and took the win 😎🤘

[@onPoint00]

No offense but if you’ve ever rode a 65 yk it was gonna beat the other bike

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

The results definitely impressed me!

[@Kareggan]

Is this a joke? You can't compare a 65cc twostroke actualy engine made for racing, to a 4strok 125 fourstroke made out of pinecones and used diapers from china. That 65 will kick the shit out of those crappy china mopeds, aways.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Haha! Now this comment was great 🤣🤣🤣

[@exclusiveron8706]

“Bye bye Apollo”😂😂😂

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

yeah you liked that huh 😂😂😂 I have the tendency to say some crazy stuff! Lol..

[@wesleybostic3488]

Try a 26mm carb on the 125 there like $35 on Amazon they make a huge difference

[@hectortorres9049]

And 28 ? Full inyector ?

[@danieldeboard9379]

How come no one is mentioning the fact that the KTM sounds like is on its last leg . A 65sx in good condition would smoke a pit bike and not look back

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

🤣🤣🤣 yeah it did sound rough

[@lunaticred1277]

What would ne cool if the china built pitbikes would use 2 stroke motors instead of honda 90 engines.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Yes!!!!!

[@moimeme7839]

Have you changed the carburator on the apollo because that gets them way faster. The stock ones are not set properly for maximum performance. Probably for durability. That could change a lot

[@malachijones66]

bro you just lighter on that bike the other guy hevay i have that to but mines is black in its way faster im lighter

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Yes, weight is a huge factor!

[@5thgearpinned450]

If the 125 was liquid cooled with 4 valves instead of a 2 valve air cooled it would have a better chance ,might even win

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I 100% agree with you! It would have been a high compression four-stroke engine at that point and would have definitely took the win ✊

[@inksankebabpizzeriayt4551]

yea then it would win but the ktm is restiricted too on the power even tho its race bike because its still meant to be riden by young riders

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@inksankebabpizzeriayt4551 Yeah there was definitely a lot of weight on both bikes holding them back tremendously from their full potential.

[@djtheys4249]

Watercooling doesnt makes it faster thats just for the cooling

[@5thgearpinned450]

DJ Theys watercooled bikes are more powerful and run cooler ,air cooled bikes get hotter thus reducing power output the hotter they get ,also why race cars are all water cooled and not air cooled, either way if the 125 was a race bike too it would most likely have a 125cc watercooled high compression engine(12-1compression or higher)with stiff valve springs ,a high lift long duration camshaft rev to 10k or higher running a higher octane and have bigger ports and bigger carb and 4 valves allowing it to suck more air in and rev higher ,that in my opinion would either smoke the 2 stroke or be on par with it , i love 2 strokes btw i have a 1996 cr500 bored to 515cc

[@waylanholecek4967]

My ssr 125 is like that against the rm 85

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Did you have any videos? It would be cool to watch!

[@streetlordz100]

Change the carb on the Apollo with a mikuni carb and race the KTM let me know how it goes

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

If I change it out I'll definitely do that!

[@streetlordz100]

I have the x18 125 Apollo I changed out the standard carb to a mikuni carb the throttle response is great the standard carburetor bogged out a lot.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@streetlordz100 That's what I'm experiencing too. The OEM carb is probably my biggest complaint on this bike, really my only complaint.

[@TNGclips1]

If you still have a Apollo you should get a 26mm carburetor there cheap from ebay or amazon. Way more power difference and they bolt straight on.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Thanks for the info!

[@teokrikis7416]

I also have a kt m 65 sx model of 2005, I am a relatively new owner, it's incredible motorbike has crazy torque really monster...

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Yes it is!

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@Ethan Valentine depends on what part of the world you're from

[@topshotta8338]

Try using the Apollo dx-18 it’s a full size and a lot faster

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

It would be interesting to see how the X18 performs compared to the X15.

[@jankyrj2560]

That’s the small wheel version of the Apollo the bigger 125 is faster than that

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

It would be cool to race the small wheel version versus big wheel version

[@captainthruster9484]

Of course you could literally buy 5 apollo 125s for the price of 1 KTM

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

That's right lol...

[@risebtw6604]

Apollos suck it’s just One of those little Chinese bikes need to get a Real dirt bike

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I'm guessing you had a really bad experience with a Chinese dirt bike to warrant such a bold statement?

[@smashergaming2134]

KTM is faster then Apollo but i liked the apollo sound

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

The Apollo does sound pretty wicked from factory 🔥🔥🔥

[@BigEBikes]

Build quality in KTM vs Apollo is like uncomparable tho. Makes sense tho, my electric dirt bike was smoking 4 stroke 125 but only barley beat a 65 2 stroke.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Yeah KTM is definitely the pinnacle of dirt bikes!

[@_paypar.out223]

Get the KTM 65 two stroke 2016 that was my first dirtbike in 2017

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Those newer KTMs do look great!

[@thieleracing5976]

It’s the 2 stroke power band it’s so touchy I have one so I know

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Yeah no joke that KTM 65SX is very touchy while in the power band!

[@thieleracing5976]

I have a KX100 it rides wheelies in first LMAO

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@thieleracing5976 always wanted to ride the KX100! They're sweet 😍

[@pitgroove.37_66]

People, you realize that the only way to compare a 65 two-stroke is to pair it up with a pit bike 160cc or bigger. Obviously, a 125 4-stroke of any size does not stand a chance against a 65 2-stroke!

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

It was all for fun bro 👍

[@pitgroove.37_66]

@@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL I know

[@everythingloud4068]

I figured the ktm would take the W

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I knew it was going to on acceleration for sure! That little 2 Stroke is a screamer! 🤘

[@SAYITAINTALBERT]

Hey man he’s 2lbs heavier let’s not forget 🤣🤣🤣

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

🤣🤣🤣 right

[@destiniturner1156]

Be gone gone if he hit them gears a lil quicker on the 65 2 smoke

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

🤣🤣

[@zayden_valid]

Bro four stroke is not for what your doings it’s for off rode racing

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

What exactly was I doing that wasn't meant for it?

[@motocrossraymond6060]

Isn’t the Apollo 4 gears and the ktm 5 or 6

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Yes that's one thing I forgot to mention in the video. The Apollo has a wide ratio 4-speed and the KTM has a close ratio 6-speed. So if the KTM was only a five-speed the top speed would be very close to the Apollo.

[@mikeyeyey8678]

For the difference in price between the two bikes, I would say the Apollo is pretty damn good. Isn’t there like a good 3000 dollar difference between the two? Great video as always as well👍🏻👍🏻

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Yes, no doubt for the price the Apollo is the better bang for your buck! The Apollo is $850 shipped to your doorstep and the KTM 65SX is just over $5K so about $4K difference 🙄 I'm glad you liked the video! I appreciate all your support buddy!! ✊

[@mikeyeyey8678]

QUADNATION 929 omg 4K difference wow! Which one do you personally prefer, taking in account the price

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@mikeyeyey8678 to be honest I don't think the KTM is worth an extra $4,000. Now I'm definitely probably going to upset a lot of folks who are die-hard KTM fans but in my opinion KTM is overpriced. I will say they are probably number one in the race sector but to be used as a pit bike or a learning bike for my son the Apollo is definitely the way to go.

[@imamythyouknowyt6860]

@@mikeyeyey8678 you can pick up an 04 rm, cr, kx 65 on marketplace for 1,000

[@jamesgeorgevellavella1961]

@@imamythyouknowyt6860 & how long will it run before throwing cash at it?

[@northeastadventures9537]

But if you think about it that Apollo is why $800 and the ktm new is a couple thousand hahaha and if that ktm breaks it’s going to be a lot more to fix it than that Apollo hahahaha

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

That's very true! Much more!

[@northeastadventures9537]

@@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL everytime that top end needs a rebuild on that ktm you could just buy a new Apollo hahaha 😝

[@Miket-xo2mu]

What kind of tennis shoes does your little brother have on?

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Hey dudes

[@joshwm2323]

A WR125 would smoke the appolo and the 65 i think

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I'll have to find one to race and we'll find out 👍

[@Qotyn]

the ktm im pretty sure has 6 gears if the apollo had the 14 tooth sprocket changed to a 16 or 18 that 4 stroke would dust tf outta that ktm 65.

[@Qotyn]

and g*y 2 strokes are lighter......

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Yeah I would agree with that!

[@ryanBandXMancing]

How to shift ktm sx65 gear.. Can you give a video

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Sure thing bud! I'll film it as soon as I get a break from all this chaos from the virus.

[@457thekid]

Ktm all the way !!!!

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Hey brother! I have to say being a first-time KTM owner I'm very impressed! The engine is so small but yet so powerful!!

[@danieldeboard9379]

Sounds like a rod bearing needing to be replaced

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

On the KTM?

[@devplaying5475]

4 strokes are better

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I love them all!

[@dominikjerbic4375]

if u have the small tire version of the apollo then ofc its a loss but witht the 17 and 14 inch tires i think on the apollo it would be more even . the apollo might even win

[@AngelSolis-kz1ei]

No man Apollo makes 7 hp while ktm 65 makes 15 hp so it’s a pretty big difference also 4 speed vs 6 speed

[@Rowdy_Rednecks_Offroad]

I love my applo and my Kim I think they the same

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Both these models are very close in performance

[@ericclinch]

He was shifting to quick on that Apollo

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

May look like that but I was shifting right at the moment I started feeling the power drop off which is perfect timing.

[@brodyriekofsky844]

“Can’t even compete with my drag racing skills” also can’t shift right 11:35

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

😂😂😂 that was actually pretty funny you just made me laugh! But in all fairness please tell me how you would shift more effectively because I'm always open to learn in this sport. There's really not much room for improvement because I was shifting at optimum RPMs and power shifting at that but if you are able to teach me something that I do not know I will completely take it as constructive criticism and will not be upset So please do let me know how you would have shifted more effectively?

[@brodyriekofsky844]

It may not be u, it might be the bike but when u shift it sounds like ur holding in the clutch just a bit too long. You hear how it revs up a bit before you shift? It may be u or the bike I really have no idea. But thanks for the reply that really made my day a lot better

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@brodyriekofsky844 That's actually great observation and I'm glad you brought that up just in case anybody else heard or noticed the same thing and is wondering why I was doing that. So what you observed was something called power shifting. Power shifting is where you do not let go of the throttle while shifting. During power shifting you'll quickly shift as fast as you can by pulling in the clutch and shifting the gear while at the same time never releasing the throttle. What it does is it, for a split second, allows the engine to free rev in between the gears so that when it does shift to the next gear it hits the next gear hard and gives it a slight boost as its engaging the next gear. Yes it will cause extra wear and tear on the clutch but If you're racing to the extreme level then it will give you an advantage compared to not power shifting.

[@brodyriekofsky844]

QUADNATION 929 omg I never even thought of that your right. I feel so stupid. Thanks tho. Great conversation keep up the great work I absolutely love ur vids. Thanks for everything

[@iwilrage]

Is the apollo a true 125? Read its not

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

It's dubbed a 125 but you're right most engines are slightly off of there given title. For example my Raptor 700 is actually a 686 cc.

[@700rRaptorLife]

🤣🤣🤣 this video made my day I was mad cuz I haven’t been out riding seems like forever but this video made my day laughing love it man 🤣🤣🤣

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Haha bro comments like this just make my day! 😆😆✊ I feel your pain as I haven't been on the Raptor much at all either only a ride here or there on the pit bikes just to for the filming of this race and another ride video but other than that the big tires with the Raptor have been cancelled due to this virus. Hopefully all this will pass sooner than later... Anyways I'm glad you loved the video bro!!! 🤘

[@700rRaptorLife]

QUADNATION 929 Yea it’s been crazy with that virus....hopefully I can jump back on the raptor soon just been working alot here lately back i put the gbc masters on the raptor finally lol I had them for months and finally put them on 🤦🏾‍♂️🤣 but keep up the good work bro 🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@700rRaptorLife nice! I hear those are good tires! Will do brother!

[@motogang5864]

Ktm is a real race bike and a Apollo is not

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

The KTM is in fact a race ready bike and when riding it you can definitely tell the engineering put into the engine and chassis is beyond its years but the Apollo is still awesome for the price.

[@funininjaddayd6761]

The 2 stroke is definitely gonna win bro

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

It certainly did!

[@benlogan8280]

How small is the ktm on you

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

It's a small pit bike and with me being 5'7 and 180 lb it's only something to ride when you're wanting to have some fun but as far as a daily means of transportation the bike is a bit small.

[@jamesgeorgevellavella1961]

It all comes down to cash in the wallet 90% of us bought Chinese cause the others are too over priced. Crf300l was the biggest pos off road & I couldn’t have sold it quick enough. Chinese bikes I’ve had for years still riding them today

[@oneuniversalorder3062]

I have an x pro 125 and ride with my buddy who's got a 65cc KTM. Literally the most evenly matched shit I've ever seen. Every race we run neck and neck the whole time.

[@AdrianGarcia-fp4bj]

I really want to buy a dirt bike I have the money but I need a credit card

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

That's completely doable. Go to Walmart or another business and grab one of those Visa cards and at the cash register put the cash on it and then purchase the Apollo online 👍

[@AdrianGarcia-fp4bj]

Thx dude I appreciate it

[@landonmatte1226]

Why you didn’t make him take the bag off if he was kissing so bad😂

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

He dropped the bag in episode 2 and then I eventually put the bag on making my weight 230 😂

[@antoniot122]

Hey I commented on your other video but I also wanted to know him much the ktm would cost?

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

The KTM 65SX is $5,000 But depending on dealer sales and promotions you may be able to get it for $4,500 or so.

[@Lobby6mafia]

I was going to buy a Apollo 125 but never mind 😂imma stick to yz125

[@kayn3634]

Appalls are pitbikes way different to the yz125

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@kayn3634 yes definitely two different animals!

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

😂😆😆😆 that was funny! But really they are setup for two different purposes. I love the Apollo but I'm also a huge fan of the YZ!

[@joeypainter3349]

The 65 is way faster than that Rfz any day of the week

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Yes it definitely proved to be the king!

[@robertyates3333]

that Kim sounds way better

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I agree I'm a fan of the screaming 2 stroke as well!

[@DannyBoy-by9ci]

Ktm world 🌎

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

🤘😎

[@kid-boost7227]

My guess Ktm walking that thing guess

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Your guess was right sir! 😁🤘

[@tiktokcomedy767]

Also it’s worth noting if you were actually the size of rider the 65 was meant for there would be zero comparison between the two bikes

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Truth!

[@jamesgeorgevellavella1961]

For the $$$ Chinese wins. I would have lost big cash on that bet. I really thought 65 would smoke Chinese but we all watched same

[@von7831]

Ktm cost like 5,000-8,000 $ going against the Apollo is unmatched the Apollo cost $800-1,000

[@ziyonbomar6552]

The Apollo really good on topping

[@Torresito-qf5gm]

how many changes does the other motor have?🥺

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Are you referring to how noisy the KTM is?

[@Torresito-qf5gm]

Yes

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@Torresito-qf5gm It was recently rebuilt prior to me purchasing it. As far as I'm aware it's been rebuilt at least twice because I seen two old pistons in the box of stuff that I got. It may have been rebuilt more than that but either way I'm not exactly sure of the total history on this bike. I do know that the engine is a bit noisy and it's an abnormal noise Not sure what's going on inside. I'm going to be pulling the head off this week.

[@AKviizon]

I’m looking to buy a ktm right now actually I weigh around 130 pounds what’s a good bike with a 5000 budget?

[@rafaelrivera1605]

Blue on the take off orange on far race

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Nice job!

[@buckshots2dabrain859]

I like how KZbin captions says the bike Revving is music

[@nemanjadraca4012]

You guys are way to dressed up to ride them little bikes lol

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Actually underdressed my man. I recently flipped one of them back and hit my knees pretty hard on the lime rock. My pants and jerseys did well and didn't tear whereas if I had regular clothes on they would have torn and I would have ruined a nice pair of jeans. Also the reason I say I'm under dressed is I'm going to be getting knee pads and elbow pads because my knee took a pretty good impact and never really thought about the pads until now. You can never have enough gear 👍

[@nemanjadraca4012]

QUADNATION 929 😂😂😂

[@jaydenturner1030]

I have both of them and my opinion the 65 is alot better but the apollo is full auto and 4 stroke And I'm 120 pounds

[@rorysmad]

what is the difference between all of the Apollo 125 bikes. I can't decide between the X-18, X-15, or 007.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I'm not sure about the 007 but the X15 is the small wheel model and the X18 is the big wheel model.

[@killuazoellick2125]

Apllo 125 Rfc

[@joeyriveira6697]

So you even up the riders weights . What’s the bikes weight on each that may be a determining factor . I’m sure that Harbor freight bike isn’t at the ktm’s weight . Plus if that 125 has been rung out like this all the time do a valve adjustment to give the 125 it’s full potential of power .

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

You have some valid points. As far as the weight of the bikes I'm not sure the difference there but this was more so of an example if someone were to line these two bikes up what to expect with different rider weights. Also the Apollo's valves are within spec as I do all my maintenance. Now it could have certainly benefited from a carb upgrade and exhaust.

[@davidmykal8197]

Just curious why didnt u have your brother ride the apollo with no backpack to show the difference with less weight if there was any

[@RednX69]

My brother has an Apollo, I drove it and if you really revv out those gears, you would've probs been a lot closer behind, I stood up to a Honda CRF150R with the 125 and won all rounds.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

In this case against the KTM I just could not keep up possibly because I weighed a bit more than my brother but I was definitely winding her out lol...

[@g3mintblock385]

Do you respond to every comment?

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Yes I do my very best to respond to each and every comment. There are times my inbox doesn't notify me and or I overlook a comment by accident. I think if it's important enough for someone to leave a comment then it's important enough for me to try to respond in a timely manner.

[@Ben-rm9jx]

Im a two stroke person but that rfz sounds better than the sx65. This is one of the only times that i will say that a 4 stroke sounds better.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I was actually quite impressed with the stock exhaust on the Apollo as well! It really sounds great!

[@MrStevec1983]

I just wish that the suspension on the Apollo was better without having to modify or upgrade. Solid as a rock.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I couldn't agree with you more!!! Way too solid!

[@joshwarren9668]

still a pretty good bike though lol

[@nigeljohn9805]

Hey Quadnation I have the apollo 125 cc dirt bike and sometimes it has a hard time starting. Sometimes it starts on first or second kick but sometimes it wont start at all.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Mine does that from time to time too and What I do is I will switch the choke lever from choke, half choke, or no choke and usually moving it around it'll fire up.

[@guilloryboy_4098]

2 strokes are way faster but I actually owned a Apollo 125 its not the bike it's the rider

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I would have to disagree in this case in particular because we swapped bikes and the results remained the same. This is the very reason we swap bikes to ensure that one rider is not significantly more or less experienced than the other thus ensuring that the end results are as fair as possible.

[@Arpdemilio]

Obviously the 2 stroke is gonna win because they have better engine, a 4 stroke is kinda like a Atv

[@erich5098]

You can put all the power you want in that Apollo motor it won’t beat that 2 stroke ktm it doesn’t have the transmission to change the gearing to beat it

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Exactly right! It revs right out to the end of the gear.

[@crunkyhd5031]

How you doing during corona brother

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

I'm trying to hang in there my man. It's been difficult trying to keep my family safe. So many folks are sick and have been losing their jobs left and right and it's such a heartbreak to see this happening in our country right now. How are you and your family?

[@Ramons187]

Idk how you even thought about racing these 2 against each other. Hands down ktm and it would really show with better riding skills. No disrespect. Sad but true.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

Oh yeah I'm not a pro by any means!

[@carnationvideos4258]

The Ramon's I thought he did well, he was launching well, power shifting and shifting at perfect times. He maxed it out. If there was a poor rider on the KTM give the APOLLO an advantage, both riders switched and the race basically had the same results. What would you have done differently to ride better?

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@carnationvideos4258 I appreciate the kind words and your support!

[@Ramons187]

I did say no disrespect but maybe some Gary Semics videos could help. Starts are something we work on alot down here. Plus shifting a bike is nothing like shitting a car or truck. Still with all that ktms rule the mini class. There is some exceptions in the mod classes. With that said not many riders is going to have a Lorettas ready bike. Y'all have a goodnight and wish you the best with your channel.

[@FREEDOMSYNDICATEOFFICIAL]

@@Ramons187 I'll have to check out that channel 👍

[@dulbands]

That’s a apollo DB-15 if he had a DB-18 or DB-19 he would of got smoked

[@GabrielUriah-f2q]

Martin Helen Young Eric Clark Edward

[@reeceharman3103]

That’s a 4/5k bike v a 800/1k bike so would be stupid if it was faster

[@sanesaint8725]

I'm only saying that because I don't want to ruin it for you but here's a hint just listen to the sound