Is there anything better than Street Fighter, Tekken, and Mortal Kombat? - Delayed Input

...with Kyle Bosman. This week's title broke the character limit, which I think means it's good.
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[@thedapperdolphin1590]

I like the look of existential dread on Kyle’s face when he realizes MK is 31 years old.

[@PSIChris]

My face when I realize I'm 31 years old.

[@CabbageLad89]

Instant like

[@FoxJupi]

Suck it, my life is worse. I'm 32.@@PSIChris

[@user-os7ec4dm8x]

@@PSIChris My face when I realise My Space is 31 years old... I mean it isn't but my face probably would do something....funny.

[@davidgreen4712]

I just realized that he decided to do the turtleneck season of Delayed Input in the middle of summer. He's so ahead of his time.

[@TapDat52K]

Seasonally advantageous to stay warm from the chilling weather changes the world governments and businesses have been neglecting to combat.

[@glungusgongus]

Kyle is a funny guy

[@RazorbackPT]

Funny how? Funny like a clown?

[@glungusgongus]

@@RazorbackPT funny like a silly fella

[@msab4883]

Who’s Kyle?

[@Dev_A_Station]

@@RazorbackPTdo i amuse you?

[@SPACECOWBOY705]

I concur

[@TheTovstar]

I felt "31 years of existence?" deeply

[@trip_carroll]

Dear algorithm, Kyle Bosman is a national treasure who constantly delivers incredible, unique, and creative game based content. Please tell everyone about him. It would really mean a lot to me. Also, stop destroying all of human relationship and communication. Sincerely, Trip

[@TapDat52K]

Based comment

[@AuriMeansWind]

seconded

[@mattlandry]

Exactly!

[@Playerz714]

Dudes humor is so dry lmao

[@JoshBurcham104]

Thanks Trip!

[@COlimar788]

Spent the entire episode waiting for Smash Bros to be acknowledged, and the acknowledgement did not disappoint. Good stuff.

[@DayFul]

Smash had it's chance to join the party but the immaturity of the community got it booted.

[@gabeskai]

​@@DayFulyeah..... its a darn shame...

[@Alex_Logan22]

@@DayFul The only reason it’s not at EVO is cause Nintendo doesn’t want it there. Killer Instinct and a MS exec were prominently featured at EVO.

[@superbadisfunmy]

​@@Alex_Logan22its cause its a Sony event now. Soon as Sony bought it, Nintendo left lol

[@Alex_Logan22]

@@superbadisfunmy Obviously, but that's on Nintendo and no one else.

[@Aoshi312]

You gotta love Kyle because immediately you’re thinking: Did he misspell Agumon on purpose?

[@hollowechigo2012]

For real was searching through the comments to see if anyone else scoped it out 😂

[@jasonfanclub4267]

​@@hollowechigo2012same 😂

[@Trotty2000]

This Delayed input was great! Good job Kyle!

[@randomthorn9286]

I can't believe you did not mention Idol Showdown, truly the fighting game of the future. It was even at Evo (as a side bracket). Though on an actual serious note Project L totally has a decent chance of breaking new ground given that it will be free

[@knleonhart]

My beard is more gray than it was yesterday. Save me Vile Hostman.

[@BobberWCC]

I love the new thing of having tiny characters appear on screen

[@DarshUK1]

6:45 LOL literally had to pause cause I realised what you were doing and burst out laughing 😅

[@black0uttv]

I can see Riot's fighting game competing with the top 3. They have it all, the talent, the character pool and the budget.

[@danielsolorzano8623]

Plus F2P I believe

[@Alex_Logan22]

Yea you can tell Kyle doesn’t really follow the FGC that intimately.

[@Alex_Logan22]

@@KH-nk8ry He was overlooking IP as well, he doesn't think any established IP can just come in and be just as big.

[@have345]

Marvel vs capcom could be a big boy if we were allowed to have good things

[@Alex_Logan22]

Project L will take its spot.

[@Largentina.]

​@@Alex_Logan22I'm not trying to sound rude, but is this a serious statement?

[@Alex_Logan22]

@@Largentina. Competitively at least, you can expect it to immediately dethrone any prior versus game in registration numbers.

[@smashedupwards]

While watching evo, playstation ran an ad using your outro song and I was like oh man I know this song. Another great episode kyle, have a great season break!

[@danoschwab9937]

AUGMON sure was an unforgettable star

[@sebasrez]

I always enjoy hearing Kyle hold his laughter whenever he speaks ridiculousness

[@PSIChris]

If the camera showed kyle's feet, you'd see his iconix cleats.

[@pipe20]

Nothing has ever aged me as much as Kyle making me realize that I first played Mortal Kombat 31 years ago....

[@sgt_grumbles]

Excellent, been digging you hosting the MinnMax Show podcast too! That’ll help the off weeks

[@marcoalonso7209]

Thank you for talking about fighting games. A lot of people just disregard that genre for whatever reason

[@andrebaptista8284]

It's true. It was great hearing Kyle talk about them. I think with fighting games all the news outlets and content creators for them are pretty established and people generally know where to go if they want the media for it. Same for racing games. Which is why I think they don't get talked about, they also, aren't casual. MK is trying to change that, which is great.

[@mr.awesome6011]

Because of lack of single player/casual content, the fact that you get your shit kicked in online if you don't play constantly, and that outside of Smash Bros. (It's a real fighting game deal with it) half of the game's content is released in $20 to $30 season intervals, turning a $60 game into a $200 game. And that's not counting outside season content like the pricey TMNT skins for SF6.

[@Gankstomper]

They're too much thinking and practice to be very popular compared to easier genres

[@Alex_Logan22]

@@mr.awesome6011 MK has offered substantial value at launch since MK9 (including Injustice games), and SF6 actually just one-upped them all with their World Tour mode which makes MK1 basically unable to compete without an equivalent Konquest mode.

[@cosmosofinfinity]

@@andrebaptista8284 How exactly is MK in particular trying to change that? It seems like it's doing pretty much the same old thing it always does. SF6 and Guilty Gear Strive are the only ones that seem to be going out of their way to expand the audience of fighting games, but that's with gameplay, what bearing does that have to do with the media? The media is gonna do what the media does, no game design decision is gonna change how they operate

[@neojd]

Kyle, you spelled Agumon wrong in the first picture. And it’s funny ‘cause Agumon has never been my favorite starter really but his evolutions are the best. As for the fighters, I can’t see anything surpassing them and Smash and I think they’re only going to get better. I still think there’s plenty of room for cool designs though. Rashid from SF V is a nice example of a newer one. Also, shout out to Bloody Roar. That’s always been 1 of my fave fighters. Maybe someday we might even get a decent MvC entry again.

[@quagthias]

I hope next patch you finally nerf the grab range of Dark Pizza Cutter.

[@redmage.]

At first I honestly thought that Kyle's drawings were new because of his phrasing, "So I started thinking about how I would draw my own casts-". It could mean how he would draw them now or how he would have drawn them when he was child. Heehee

[@RedWanderer1]

"Tekken 7 Killed Augmon" is the best thing I heard this week.

[@steel.oneill]

Came for the Honk, stayed for the pinkie

[@imraw17]

I think Tekken has a tendency to keep new characters around more so than Street Fighter and MK.

[@Gentle_Troll]

This is true, but mostly cause initial roster of modern Tekkens tens to be much bigger than other fighting games at start

[@Dasaltwarrior]

​@@Gentle_Troll I mean Tekken 5-7 all shared the same base movesets and animations for returning characters, and its kinda expected atp. T8's the first complete shake up for the series in like, 20 years SF and MK on the other hand are more known for RADICALLY changing things up each game, so characters are more tailor made for specific universal systems. Just naturally becomes harder to adapt over time in some cases

[@goranisacson2502]

True, but also true as Thomas Rozhon says that Tekken does things differently ankmationwise than the other ones so it's easier for them to keep and make large rosters. I do wonder however- do characters simply sticking around help keep them in the AUDIENCE'S mind? Does it make them popular? Because it still feels like the Mishima's, the Williams sisters and like Yoshimitsu and Eddy Gordo are all that everybody knows Tekken for. It's once again Agumon syndrome, where I feel like very few characters post the first ones are actually well-loved.

[@subliminallime4321]

Hey, Clayfighter could make a comeback. It could happen.

[@AuriMeansWind]

I just want you to know Kyle, earnestly, i love this damn show. I am cackling along every Friday and watch a couple times to make sure get that real dry humor and don’t miss a beat. Appreciate you. 🙏🏻🤍

[@JoshBurcham104]

Delayed Input is such a genius name for a video game show I still haven't gotten over that

[@TerranIV]

Amazing season finale! Nice to see the Origin Story of Kyle Bosman. :) It's going to be a long break, but I hope you have a fun time in Germany.

[@markmessi9020]

Behind two ferns at home, you are mt new favorite channel. Thank you for what you do 🙏

[@TheOblomoff]

Also, Granblue fantasy versus rising is looking to be a strong competitor. Just because it will have incredibly low barrier to entry.

[@Boonehams]

5:31 - This is now my head canon voice for Quan Chi. Thank you, Kyle.

[@stblanco516]

This is…now it’s stuck in my head. Thanks a lot Kyle

[@IFinishedAVideoGame]

Me and my friends getting together to play Soul Calibur every time a new one comes out is increasingly feeling like the get together in At World's End

[@FBl]

I think FGC of the future will be most excited for PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale.

[@DayFul]

When Kyle said 31 years ughhhhhhhhh oh god that hit me hard.

[@wideVIBE]

This episode made me finally understand the car horn. Thanks, Kyle.

[@FrothingFanboy]

I was going to say the only thing people would remember about this episode was the spelling error, but then Kyle Kombat & Kyle Instinct made me forget about that! ^_^

[@greatbigeyeball]

You touch on two important things here. Big budget games are ballooning to levels in which competition from other games is extremely hard, and fighting games are inherently competitive. Since becoming good enough to compete in any one game takes a large commitment, people gravitate toward games that seem 'relevant' which is why even stuff like Guilty Gear with it's great popularity doesn't come close to the big three.

[@Alex_Logan22]

Guilty Gear is bigger competitively than Tekken, just not more popular overall. Competitive MK has always struggled too, but the brand is the COD of the genre.

[@CJ-kv2um]

That GQ subscription got my boy dripped out with the turtle necks lol

[@CabbageLad89]

Good luck with the pre-show Kyle!

[@isaacmendez1529]

Literally my first time watching this guy Long time fan now lmaoooo

[@sadrequiem]

I love it when it's Friday and there's a new Delayed Input out. It just makes the day even better :D Btw, about the fighting games, I think Guilty Gear is already the best one but it's just not as popular. I'd love to see more fighting licensed games from Arc System Works.

[@crastofer]

Guilty Gear was popular at launch. Had the biggest EVO entries last year. But overall the FGC didn't enjoy how "simple" the gameplay is, so they moved on and missed the best chance to establish the franchise as a real contender for the other 3.

[@Alex_Logan22]

@@crastofer Their EVO entries were bigger this year than last.

[@crastofer]

@@Alex_Logan22 because there were 7k SF players. If there are 5K entrants more than last year, by default there's going to be people who play both games. That doesn't mean GG was more played than last year (Especially when the increase is just 300 players).

[@Alex_Logan22]

@@crastofer Last I checked, SF6 doesn't entail or promote Guilty Gear. The game's been doing well all around, not just at EVO, it's competitively bigger than Tekken.

[@crastofer]

@@Alex_Logan22 i can't answer. my response gets blocked or erased. Just check what SFV launch did to EVO... I would love to answer more detailed, but for some reason I can't.

[@moil6384]

just discovered this show and it is amazing

[@oklimbo]

The end of this episode could have been it's own episode

[@schtive81]

Mortal Kombat franchise really can't get past the legacy characters. You're right, they have tried. The majority of the legacy street fighter cast came from Street Fighter II, as Street Fighter 1 was mostly forgotten by the time the sequel released in arcades. Only Ken and Ryu came from SF1. Street Fighter Alpha series did make an attempt to expand the roster and did bring in some new memorable characters. SNK was one of the few fighting game developers who could successfully introduce new characters into the KOF roster that could supersede older characters.

[@jasonmontoya4749]

Love this epoisode, Fighting Games having a renaissance! I think Project L will make an impact... Because MvC3 has left a gaping hole in a much-desired way to play fighting games (Assist). Capcom blew it in following up the success of MvC3. But that's ok because Tekken 8, SF6 and MK all look like GREAT ways to enjoy the genrea!

[@godribbon]

Great episode, and best honk yet! I think Street Fighter in particular is around forever, and I think they've done a great job at adding new characters that feel iconic. Manon and Marisa in particular feel like they could have always been there

[@kobijones4293]

Kyle, love your videos man. The 31 year old MK thing is crazy, I saw the pain in your face. Another crazy fact, I’ve been watching you for 10 years now!

[@arebuckle]

05:31 - I didn't know that Terry Funk was Quan-Chi. "Yes I hurt right after that fight with Hasashi, yes I was missing my head. But have you seen Hanzo Hasashi? Has anybody seen him? Does he have enough guts to come back against me again?"

[@KingWagu]

I'm hoping for a series of denim jackets with a gratuitous number of pop culture pins as the next outfit of choice for Kyle.

[@zachminyard]

Thank you for talking about fighting games

[@bitterbatterdog]

The season finale sneaks up on me every time and I hate it

[@benli9656]

This depressed man puts forth some solid analysis.

[@PixelBaller]

I still have fond memories of Tobal No 2, Bloody Roar and Killer Instinct. I reckon Microsoft could use the KI engine and devs and make a great game with all their big names under their belt.

[@bejisan1]

Tobal n°1, Tobal 2.

[@PixelBaller]

@@bejisan1 cheers 👍

[@pedro4464]

Honestly, I think that fighting games will always be a niche of its own, no matter how popular the heavy hitters get sometimes. And there will always be new games bringing new things to the table. The fighting game community recognizes both, no matter how many Agumons there are.

[@NileSings]

Baby Kyle's design docs are some of the cutest things I've seen all week🤣

[@OT_Sauce]

Real strong Toby Mcguire vibes 3 seconds in

[@milesdyson7429]

I'm not sure whether to thumbs up or down for the Dr Evil reference.

[@NuckleBebop]

Why do i suddenly have the urge to watch Austin Powers now?😅

[@rinaldus4512]

Audibly said 'NO' when I saw the Dr. Evil pinky come up

[@MegaMagicalMegan]

8:57 people can just go and think 20 years into the future without it hurting their souls-? 9:06 oh oh there it is yeah there’s the existential dread

[@UGotSerbed]

I could watch Kyle flame his kid self's drawings for days

[@AlgaeEater09]

1:16 THIS IS... the story of a girl, who cried a river and drowned the whole world

[@GreenYoshi265]

I still reckon Soul Calibur is one of the best fighters out there. Soul Calibur 7 needs to come out already!!

[@personaphantom5543]

Soulcalibur series has been a hit or miss since 3 and 6 was bargain bin cheap with it's budget hopefully 7 has good graphics and no reversal edge.

[@TheViciman]

Kinda surpised at the dysmissal of Project L. I can understand it because after 30 years of the same 3 sagas dominating it seems absurd, but I'm betting that its gonna be the biggest one by EVO 2025. Riot is an expert in copying a game genre and perfecting it in a more player-friendly way, wether it is by the way of monetizing it, by making the genre easier to start in or by making it more "social" (like the duos in Project L) I think the only game of theirs that isn't top 2 most played in their genre is their card game, and that one makes sense given the investment needed to make the jump from one game to another. All of this by following the same template of "easy to learn, hard to master" that all their games follow where you never feel that their games are dumbed down so more people can play them. if anything, their competitive games are pretty hardcore (LoL and Valorant) I think the question is how big will the difference be between Project L and the rest as the years go on, not if it's gonna be the biggest one, especially if riot offers a more "Professional" competitive circuit in which case a lot of players from other games will most likely make the jump.

[@kephalai]

not with a name like "Project L" lmao

[@TheViciman]

@@kephalai ... That's not the final name lol.

[@Alex_Logan22]

Yea Kyle hasn’t done enough research into this.

[@Yakita60]

“31 of existence…” As a 31 year old, I just got run over by an 18-wheeler.

[@Conchobhar]

I think Sega are absolutely poised to make a comeback with Virtua Fighter. They've been doing so well for themselves with Like a Dragon and SF6 has added open world elements to the series. Yakuza isn't open world, but roaming a little hangout space and beating people up? Just massage that into a VF shape and you got it babe. VF6, look forward to it.

[@justaguy2732]

Sega are incompetent outside or RGG studio, and VF’s whole concept and branding are so stuck in their own time period. I think theres very little chance of a comeback, but i’d love to be wrong

[@RubyDoobieScoo]

Hi Kyle, I just wanted to say that 64 is my favourite number, great to see that you enjoy it too.

[@AJAlkaline]

I mean, I feel like Guilty Gear kind of invalidates all of this? Guilty Gear still isn't Street Fighter but it was sitting in slot 2 this EVO. They just announced 2.5 million players. Every new character that gets added to Guilty Gear is someone's favorite character in the entire franchise and fans beg for them to come back for generations to come (yes even Kum Haeyoun). I gotta be honest, brushing off Guilty Gear here is completely ignoring where the FGC has been going for the last 3 years.

[@kephalai]

you forgot the first few seconds of this video -- kyle hates anime :D thats why guilty gear was brushed off

[@arglebargle5531]

It's still objectively behind Tekken and MK. As you yourself said, they just announced 2.5 million players, which... is fantastic for Strive, and which... would be very bad numbers for either Tekken or MK.

[@Renoistic]

They also still have to fix those buggy lobbies which made me quit Strive altogether.

[@adamgarms3727]

Okay, as a fellow gamer who grew up drawing my own fighting game designs, your art is EVERYTHING. I genuinely smiled and laughed at these, and would unironically play a game with them in it. Thanks for the content, Kyle!

[@DOSkywalkR]

I'm pretty sure somebody who watched this video is already working on Kyle Instinct right now 😁

[@MyxeQ]

Kyle's Fighting Game Characters were divine!

[@crunkiss]

“It’s the 20’s” is not a natural thing to say, or hear for that matter

[@CharlieGreene24242]

Really enjoying the sparkly turtleneck

[@IngramSnake]

Rename this series to Kyle Bosman puts you to sleep, cause damn this is always comfy.

[@WrackPharmd]

I had to go show my wife Kyle Kombat 2 and Kyle Instinct. Absolutely amazing.

[@lennywright5655]

What if EA made a Madden fighter? Tom Brady vs Gronkowski, Peyton and Eli Manning as the similar pallet swap fighters, and Bo Jackson as the classic character everyone uses, just to name a few!

[@mattlandry]

What an awesome bonus bit

[@junglecack]

The fact that Kyle didnt bring up hot reptile makes me sad....

[@Melonhome_yt]

Most underrated content creator lmao. Good shit Kyle!

[@Luigi64]

every time a video has a moment that makes me really enjoy it i go and like the video instinctively, but every time i watch your videos i nearly click unlike from how many times it makes me love it

[@TheMarkoSeke]

7:50 Well Riot Games is developing a fighting game, I wouldn't be surprised if they found success with it.

[@SebHighDef]

1:15 its that giant and you still spelled it wrong :P

[@SkittleMonstr]

Maybe he was actually referencing former UNLV basketball star Stacey Augmon lol

[@scissors0009]

The Nine Days gag gets me every single time.

[@JoltyJon13]

Saved the best turtleneck for last. It’s not even my style, but damn he made that thing look good.

[@WeeWeeJumbo]

you should have become Rob Liefeld 2: Kyle Bosman

[@PSZURIKU]

Seeing these videos pop on my feed makes me feel like there is a little bit of balance in the world still.

[@jgrocketpup]

1:16 🎶This is 🎶 😆

[@bryanlenning3436]

This content completes me

[@jonathantyner171]

I wish there was a fighting game called “ShadowDays” franchise, ShadowDays is an fighting game made by Ubisoft in 1996

[@VermillionThaKid]

Guy is the Anthony Fantano of video games😂💪🏽

[@ANTheWhizkid]

But Kyle, the solution is right there! Soul Calibur!!! It’s the best.

[@187Wretched]

Netherrealm has never dropped that quest to get rid of ninjas from their game. They've gradually tried to remove any semblance of the ninjas being a ninja with each subsequent release outside of Scorpion

[@the_sigil4340]

Brilliant video, as usual

[@Joshua.Rogers]

Smashing success

[@despausa]

KZbin title: The best fighting game will surprise you 👀(not the one you thought) Spoiler: it is Smash Bros. Post-credits spoiler: Smash Bros. with items

[@araknieretro]

Oh yeah, another mad one like me, love to spread chaos.

[@osohista]

I haven't watched the video yet so I don't know whether this is a rhetorical question or some sort of cheeky twist, but the answer is Guilty Gear.