Traction control vs front and rear cross-axle lockers

[@Ted...youtubee]

I just bought the everest trend 2.0.4WD. Now reviewing your videos whilst i wait a month for delivery. Thank you for your videos. Especially the towing videos.

[@rodriguez3939]

Would have liked to see just the front locked

[@stevegoodwin5841]

Always informative and well presented Robert. Thanks.

[@OFFtheROAD34]

How did you back down on sun a steep heel??? R - HDC R - HDC + foot brake R - foot brake R - driving through the brakes Can driving through the brakes be done on a Ford Ranger MJ 2018 3.2l (T7-PX2 European Model)

[@L2SFBC]

Driving through brakes and yes I would expect it can be done on the '18 Ranger too.

[@ruzbehxyz]

Why is BTC reduced or desensitized on a Ford Everest front wheels when the rear lockers are engaged ? Is there a mechanical reason, and how does this happen?

[@L2SFBC]

Unsure. Ford didn't give me an answer I can use.

[@alihsas]

Thank you from KSA.

[@r1chardarcher]

Would the brake traction control be more effective with lower throttle input? I thought the twin locked throttle input was the sort of amount required for any of the tests here.

[@L2SFBC]

No, the reverse is true. Greater throttle input means more difference in wheel speed left/right, so the computers brake the spinning wheel harder, generating more torque on the wheel that's got traction. Older systems needed a lot of throttle to wake up, newer ones are much better.

[@vishalganatra7719]

i have seen lot of discussions about evrest with front lockers busting their CV or the axle coz of the locker , is that true and is there a solution to that ??

[@L2SFBC]

Yes it's true, because significantly more torque can be put through the wheel than before. The solution...upgrade CVs, and be careful with when and how you apply the throttle when the front locker is engaged. Keep the wheels straight, minimal throttle, minimal wheelspin, smooth control inputs, and engage rear locker too.

[@vishalganatra7719]

@@L2SFBC Thank you for immediate and detailed reply 👍 , appreciate it Harrop or Eaton aren’t available in India Am planning to go for the Arb air locker , will that be good enough ?

[@L2SFBC]

Sure will!

[@darthfx]

How are Jeeps in comparison to Land Rovers? Grand Cherokee wasn't great on that hill I guess. Only seen a couple of seconds of it in another video of yours. The one with Discos. I would expect better and was surprised really.

[@L2SFBC]

Stand by for more videos on the Hill of Truth

[@gavinsmith28]

Which front locker is fitted to the Everest?

[@L2SFBC]

Harrop.

[@plantpower3048]

Thank you so much! I almost bought this POS car, I am sticking with Pajero! traction control is the best!

[@L2SFBC]

I disagree, see Toyota and Land Rover

[@plantpower3048]

@@L2SFBC kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpDGY3h8dpuGo9U

[@OFFtheROAD34]

How did you back down on such a steep heel???

[@bashnk]

How do you install a front diff lock?

[@L2SFBC]

Ask your mechanic

[@jamesplatt9323]

Nice video. Was going to buy an Everest but after seeing the Prado eat this hill I don't know.

[@L2SFBC]

Don't discount the Everest!

[@mrbenno]

Thanks for a great video. Super informative.

[@L2SFBC]

Glad it was helpful!

[@nnoddy8161]

Would like to the see the new Defender up the 'Hill of Truth' preferable with a double locked old Defender for comparison purposes.

[@L2SFBC]

Stay tuned....

[@nnoddy8161]

@@L2SFBC cannot wait. By the way, where is the 'Hill of Truth'?

[@jaegerrenn-jones2966]

Hi Robert, thanks for you great videos here and your books too. You mention in this video and in others that the Everest’s brake traction control is not the best. In your opinion is this something that Ford could improve via a software update, or is it a limitation of the mechanical system? While I’d love to fit a front locker to my Everest, it would be nice to spend the money elsewhere!

[@L2SFBC]

Thanks! Yes, it's just software, all the hardware is there. Ford have already released an update which improved BTC.

[@radlocke]

@@L2SFBC is the improved BTC update available for my MY18 Everest? How do I get it?

[@L2SFBC]

See your dealer. Not that I'm sure they would have a clue what brake traction control is but they can do the update as required. Don't know what year it came in.

[@felipebutcher]

@jaegerrenn-jones2966 the software can be improved but it won't get better than a diff lock. so kind of yes it has a mechanical limitation. in a traction control system, a wheel must loose traction before it gets activated, not matter how fast is the tc system. diff lock by the other hand will work before one of the two wheels of an axle looses traction

[@tastyhamsandwhich]

Good video

[@L2SFBC]

Glad you enjoyed

[@OFFtheROAD34]

Thank You, geniale Demonstration.

[@spencerm106]

Rob, you deserve a knighthood. Every single one of your videos have been brilliant. One can only assume you're doing this because of all the fluff going making it around the "DVDs" and forums... I do have one challenging question... Why the Ranger for a personal vehicle? Also, I heard I pod cast once with you talking about vehicle myths and about tyre "width". I'm a firm believer in skinny tyres (more so for soft sand). I've read a number of books on teramechamics and can attest the calculations prove the experience. I just think your hill of truth showing traction control and theory on snatch blocks is good enough... I was a little upset with one of your last videos having to "prove science to a potato" about "creating weight". All the best to you mate, please keep the good content running.

[@L2SFBC]

Thank you Michael, I really appreciate the comment, keeps me going! Ranger for a personal vehicle - I'm actually going to cover that soon as I'm looking to change, and the "why a ute" will be part of that story. Skinny tyres - yes, I'm a fan for offroading. My terramechanics books (Wong et al) say the same. But, I cannot think of a good explanation/demonstration which proves the point. Would like to hear ideas. You may think it's good enough, but I can tell you - every single time I've taught winching or talked on the subject, someone ALWAYS challenges me on that point. So, I began to literally carry out weights and scales, and then there were no more arguments. And re fluff. Yes. I don't watch any of it. I don't do hyped enthusiasm, I just focus on content. I probably will never do a trip video, plenty of others out there getting over excited in front of GoPros. Not my thing, I have my little space and I'm happy there. I'm also planning to do some serious research...watch this space Thanks again!

[@Hilmi12]

I would argue that a rear locker would have been enough with slight change in line taken. Here is a demonstration kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3O2eoeVra2ih7M

[@L2SFBC]

It can be done with no Lockers but the point is to demonstrate traction systems.

[@Hilmi12]

@@L2SFBC I live in a country where vehicle mods are basically illegal so we are forced to make the best out of the tech that ships with your vehicle. That sometimes pushes my ranger to it's limits but it yet to fail me. I find a good set of tires and picking a good line can go a long way

[@L2SFBC]

Wow which country?

[@Hilmi12]

@@L2SFBC Oman 🇴🇲. There are very few legal modifications you can do here, but our terrain can be very similar to Australia. Sandy beaches, treacherous mud flats and rocky mountain trails with plenty of creeks.

[@plantpower3048]

change the line? wtf! thats not the point of the video, use ur brain...