L3Harris NGAL Overview

[@randycarothers7654]

Worst part is there is no gray market option for these, and won't be for a very very long time. Any NGAL people see will only be used by LE, mil, or training companies that can justify the need for "training". For the rest of us, this sucks. I hate the FDA and ATF.

[@FlatRangeOperator]

don't we all

[@flonga1]

Isn’t there the Meyers MAWL ? Seems like the most effective civilian laser

[@simply_based]

@@flonga1 Thyere better than any other civ laser, but theyre still civ lasers

[@adamgriffin]

The Chinese Airsoft clones offer full power and are getting REALLY close to the real thing. They even hold zero even though they advertise they don't for legal reasons. I'll tell you this, they are getting so close. Customs, and USPS will try to seize them 😬

[@steak-enjoyer]

Im lost, ive been offered 5-6 different ngals this month alone, private party. There is a huge grey market.

[@2aprecisionninja897]

Like most, I position my lasers as far forward as possible…very close to the suppressor. Have you heard of any issues because of excessive heat during high round count sessions?

[@KineticConsulting]

Not from heat specifically to the unit. But the thermal shift of the beam due to heat rising on the can, yes.

[@B58SupraA90]

We had issues with running them on 48's and 240's due to heat but that is excessive heat compared to the average rifle.

[@kalanipitmon7817]

After watching this, im DEFINETLY buying a somo metal ngal 😊

[@rustyricky6684]

Don’t get the SomoGear!!! Get the IS-EG, even just the InvisibleSight NGAL is much better than Somo!!! Much better illuminator with REAL diffusers! The Somo is garbage… I’ve seen both side by side, you can also tell the fit/finish is much better. Also, the SomoGear doesn’t have any recoil lugs built in to the body

[@juansimon5802]

that ngal blows the la5 and the la5 uhp out of the water.its better than any laser i own and i own them all except for the wilcox raid x.wilcox has too many bells and whisles for anything i do anyway. good vid man

[@somethinganything4864]

How did you get an NGAL

[@therealricflair8946]

How did you get a ngal!?

[@AJ13B]

The million dollar question, if the option was given, would you choose the NGAL or the MAWL?

[@blbreptiles4126]

Ngal, the mawl has had some durability issues

[@Unboxfulty]

Ngal

[@jackfleagle4415]

NGAL. More user options.

[@floofifoxalin]

NGAL because in my opinion it looks cooler and I don’t like having all the weight to the right with the laser unit, flashlight and a magnifier all hanging off the right

[@Sigmareich]

Marines are still using m-16s with fixed front sight post, and are being issued new NGALs so, the separation in the middle is still necessary

[@imforealz8617]

Came here to say this

[@Sigmareich]

@@floofifoxalin the marines I was referring to were Combat Engineers ( POGs ) Even some conventional Navy has them in inventory

[@jacobtedder4813]

I mean they’re all getting the M27 which is just a heavy standard barrel length 416

[@KirShizzle]

I'm wondering what justifies the cost premium here. Just size?

[@KineticConsulting]

Who knows man. It's not my favorite and doesn't really give us much compared to and LA5

[@CB-ux5xc]

They are down to MAWL prices now at $3000.

[@Richardjohnson6969]

@@CB-ux5xc they are not.

[@Anon62796]

@@CB-ux5xc if you get from a distributor, yes. I paid just over 3k for mine. But they’re still 5-6k when I look in private sale groups

[@e_a_andremida8185]

To be fair about the offset, in the 82nd were starting to get issued ngals and we still use fsp

[@dustanreichard72]

A screwdriver I don't think most people are going to be able to afford an ngal lol😊

[@jason_r_]

Will you do one of these overview videos on the Wilcox Raid X/Xe as well?

[@KineticConsulting]

It will be out Monday

[@gunsnmammons]

Nice! Loved replacing my PEQ-15 with this, the small form factor lasers definitely are great. Cant wait to try out one of the RAID-XE's

[@modernrambo2]

Where the heck did you get one?

[@dan34246]

Hey Jon, do you foresee any more budget minded options with vcsel technology in the near future, say from Steiner or other manufacturers? Thanks for the content!

[@KineticConsulting]

Not that I know of man. If so the cost will definitely go up

[@dan34246]

@@KineticConsulting fingers crossed 🤞 anything closer to 2k would make it easier to justify. As for now, looks like the move is to keep saving up for a mawl

[@mangoose4]

I think myself and others would be interested in how to program the NGAL or even the PEQ-15/16 to turn the strobe feature on and off, haven't seen a KZbin video on that subject yet.

[@KineticConsulting]

I can make one.

[@boostav]

5:54 Nah they were right in not putting them in the middle. Can't even put a folded down front BUIS in that case.

[@NeonVars]

How's the battery life being that it uses different laser tech? is it comparable to that of a PEQ 15 or LA5?

[@KineticConsulting]

So it's on the same battery I've had in it for a month and a half. We will see where that takes us.

[@REDSTRIKE175]

Any issues with the illuminator knob? Have heard tales of them breaking off and being a bit wobbly.

[@KineticConsulting]

Personally I haven't had any issues

[@CB-ux5xc]

No issues.

[@Anon62796]

I thought the same thing when I first messed with it. Does feel wobbly. I’ll have to see how things go

[@ronin_5.453]

Do you like the Wilcox raid x better?

[@BabyFaceP]

Drool

[@CB-ux5xc]

Thanks for the video. I am a MAWL and NGAL guy. Not a fan of the Raid X.

[@Snozzelquaf]

Hey I was hoping you wouldn't mind reassuring me as I plan on have a lieutenant from my local PD get with procurement and purchase one on my behalf.. however I wouldn't dream of asking him to do anything unethical much less illegal. To my understanding, it isn't illegal to posses a class III laser, however I can't purchase one since I'm a civilian. I've already asked if he wouldn't mind and he had no problem with it, do you have any words of advice? Anything input would be most appreciated, thanks in advance

[@somethinganything4864]

@@Snozzelquaf looks like he gave you the greenlight

[@Anon62796]

@@Snozzelquaf legal to possess. Just have to find a way to get them to sell it to you if you can’t find em private sale. My ngal just came today direct from l3.

[@Snozzelquaf]

@@Anon62796 tha k you for your reply, im curious, if you don't mind my asking, are you LEO? How exactly did you procure your NGAL from L3 specifically? After further inquiries I've determined I would receive no support from L3 if serial number was registered and/or acquired through my LEO contact... furthermore it could put the procurement officer in hot water with L3 if they found a registered class III in the possession of a civilian enthusiast. And as I had mentioned before, although my family friend who's willing to aquire on behalf is still willing and able I was advised through other avenues it could land his department procurement office in hot water should I require OEM support in the future.. How should I approach this sir?

[@Anon62796]

@@Snozzelquaf I’m LE and I found a distributor that helped me purchase direct from l3. They’re hard to find because a lot of distributors are sticklers but they’re out there. If you’re not MIL or LE then you’re not gonna be able to get it warrantied if L3 finds out. If it were me, I would not risk my friends position and relationship with l3 to get a restricted laser that way. I just got mine and will test it tn under nods to see if it’s really worth it but at the end of the day, a full power peq15 or LA5 will do the same thing just weigh more and have an uglier Illuminator. I still love my peq15. If I were you, and you really want an ngal, save an extra 2 grand and buy one private sale. You still can’t get it warrantied but you won’t be jeopardizing your buddy in the process. If not, you can find peq15s for 1500-2000 all the time. They’re awesome proven units. Just my 2 cents

[@adamjones1641]

Awesome video. Thanks!

[@jakethesnake2024]

any info on if they will make a civilian version?

[@KineticConsulting]

No clue

[@ScrantonStranglerFan]

I would guess not until it's a standard issue for military/LE. It doesn't seem that this unit is being marketed for civilians, and I'm sure having to conduct a separate manufacturing process for a commercial version is not on their agenda right now.

[@typicalkyle420]

Unless you are ok with an Airsoft version if this I would think not.

[@coltcomphbar]

Great info. I want an NGAL lol

[@dean5101]

Didn’t mention the knob for the illuminator?

[@ReadySetGoPictures]

Thanks for taking the time to make videos. They’re very informative!

[@basti080891]

This, wilcox raid or mawl?

[@KineticConsulting]

I'll have the raid up next week. Mawl after that.

[@basti080891]

@@KineticConsulting looking forward to the videos!

[@m.k.k.4931]

The middle gap is useful to adapt to agencies with the fixed A post. Know your holds. NGALS leak though. They need to fix that.

[@boostav]

It's not just the fixed front sight post, if you put them in the middle like the RAID X/Xe you can't even put a front BUIS flipped down.

[@XampleTactical]

Where can I get one? 😭

[@thomaszhang3101]

I understand that you must’ve shot a lot with night vision, thus have a descent helmet setup. I wonder if you’ve tried both AMP Arms mount (arms that clamp headphones from behind the helmet) and Peltor Adaptors (wires that clamp headphones from helmet side). If you have, which one do you recommend? The voices on the internet are incredibly mixed regarding the two and both look like very heavy investments, so I can’t just try one out.

[@KineticConsulting]

That's a good question man and I may make a video on the difference to help folks. The short answer is it depends on your head/helmet/ear pro/budget. If your equipment/head/budget accommodate both setups, then it comes down to how well the setups protect your hearing. Peltors on the normal peltors adapters don't seal well on my head depending on how I twist my head. So I personally opt for the better system that actually seals well on my head. The amps also offer NFMI (check it out on their website) which is useful for me due to the different things I do.

[@thomaszhang3101]

@@KineticConsulting thank you so much for the information! I look forward to a video on this topic should you make one. Subbed

[@jamesn8750]

How does the output compare to the perst 3?

[@KineticConsulting]

I don't have a perst so I can't say

[@lukeflaugher5334]

Me over here crying in Dbal A2 lol. Hoping to sell before long and grab a mawl

[@CB-ux5xc]

Simply not true.

[@lukeflaugher5334]

@@CB-ux5xc yea I knew this also but didn’t reply. A perst is not even half the unit an ngal is

[@Richardjohnson6969]

@@paulbarclay4114 no the fuck it ain’t

[@flonga1]

What PEQ does the laser centered. And is this IR/NVG visible only or are there options to see it with the naked eye when needed. And what are these two options called. I’m very green. Thank you.

[@flonga1]

@@KeterMalkuth I missed that part. Thanks for your help.

[@thegolflife7565]

I really like the MAWL-DA but like this as well. Both are excellent. Am curious if the new Eotech will be even better.

[@813todd]

Yo Jon, so what is your “ first choice “ if not this? I would be considering this as a clip on Illuminator with a laser back up :)

[@KineticConsulting]

I use my mawl or raidx.

[@thomaszhang3101]

@@KineticConsultingsomeone complained about Raid X firing button being too hard to reach for right handed shooter with small hands, also the controls are unnecessarily complex. What do you say?

[@KineticConsulting]

​@@thomaszhang3101that sounds like someone who shouldn't buy it for their little hands or use a pressure pad. Complex buttons? How? They are as simple as any other laser and if you want to do anything else you can make minor adjustments that are as simple as press the center button and then use up and down to adjust. Some baby toys are more complex.

[@JAEZAI1]

Ohhhhhh baby

[@schmick125]

What is your first choice of laser?

[@thegoodsheperd1189]

What is your first choice?

[@KineticConsulting]

You need to be more specific

[@thegoodsheperd1189]

@@KineticConsulting what do you consider to be the best Night vision and rugged for under 7000? Same about IR laser and illuminator.

[@Azzurri846]

@@KineticConsultingWhat would be your first choice of LAM?

[@KineticConsulting]

I use a raidx and a mawl most of the time. Those are my preferred. As for night vision, as long as it has L3 intensifies tubes I'm in. Housings just have features.

[@boyscoutbugout1953]

How much will this run you?

[@Anon62796]

3000-3500 if you can buy direct from L3 with the help of a cool distributor. Need to be MIL or LE tho. 5000-6000 private sale is what I’ve seen usually

[@schmick125]

Ok if money wasn’t a factor and you already have a Rattler in 300 blk with a maw c1+ on it. What laser would you pick for a 16” rifle (LPVO with red dot offset) - NGAL, another C1+, or another FP laser on the grey market?

[@KineticConsulting]

Depends on how you're using the lpvo. If you plan to shoot it on 1x you may have obstructions with a box laser

[@5jjt]

​@@KineticConsultingWhat ir would you choose with an lpvo? Would you ditch the lpvo and go something else?

[@KineticConsulting]

@@5jjt depends on your needs and budget man. I usually use a mawl but have used my raidx as well.

[@strat1960s]

Any idea where we can get the laser diffusers??

[@KineticConsulting]

If you have an NGAL you may ha E to contact L3.

[@rustyricky6684]

Don’t get the SomoGear!!! Get the IS-EG, even just the InvisibleSight NGAL is much better than Somo!!! Much better illuminator with REAL diffusers! The Somo is garbage… I’ve seen both side by side, you can also tell the fit/finish is much better. Also, the SomoGear doesn’t have any recoil lugs built in to the body

[@tf201]

Where can I get one?

[@floofifoxalin]

Do some research but if I’m not wrong you get it from the gray market because it shouldn’t be illegal to buy and own as a US civilian, it’s only illegal to sell. I myself am not 100% sure about all the places you can find NGALs but one place you can try is EBay. If you find any other sources to find NGALs please let me know

[@thomaszhang3101]

NGAL vs Raid Xe vs OGL?

[@KineticConsulting]

Ogl isn't available so I couldn't say and the ngal and raid are pretty much the same. Look at both and their features and make your decision.

[@thomaszhang3101]

@@KineticConsulting thank you! Please ignored my second most recent comment as I wrote that before reading your reply.

[@brianroberts62]

Thanks for the video. I have one that I got on trade. was told it was brought back from Afghanistan. Just put batteries in it to see if it even worked and visible laser works fine. I'm not able to see any IR activity (using my iphone... I don't yet have any kind of night vision device). I see nothing with phone in video mode. should I be able to? (also, I have not yet removed the safety screws and tried the higher settings of the selector switch. honestly, didn't even know about the safety screws until tonight watching a couple videos... Any advise you can give me to help me test the IR functionality would be much appreciated.

[@Snozzelquaf]

Fire it under your security cameras, it should ploom it out,if it does see it to me for a G

[@BeastHunterSam]

Is it authentic or a clone

[@miltonoliver3705]

is this civilian version

[@bluntsmoke1872]

FP only.

[@KineticConsulting]

Nope.

[@MrDustinclement]

Thanks for the video. Although that last sentence “hopefully that’s GOOD ENOUGH for you guys” REALLY concerned me. Someone once said “if you say “good enough” that means you know there’s better and you’re not willing to achieve it” 😂 just kidding man, ha although I did laugh. I love these videos man that’s why I’m watching one that’s a year old! Thanks! Hoping to maybe join a FL class soon since I’m finally in the NV game! Your content has been so helpful to me