Ladies! Protect Men! Put Some Clothes On!

[@KailarahAurual]

When men say that they cannot control their impulses when women dress "indecently," they insult themselves with the implication that they have no more self-control than a mere animal. It says far more about them then about the people they complain about.

[@julietfischer5056]

Hell, they're saying they have _less_ control than animals. Depending on the species, some females can refuse a male's attentions and there's nothing he can do about it.

[@denisemayosky1955]

​@@julietfischer5056 Yup, they're giving themselves an excuse.

[@biomedlib]

I agree. Most have no sexual discipline.

[@merbst]

I have seen feral cats exert more self control!

[@ReneeJoan]

That's unfair to the animals. Male animals can only mate when the female is in "heat" or otherwise ready to procreate. If she is not, she's more likely to eat him than submit to his advances.

[@davidrada241]

I am SO tired of the phrase "boys will be boys." My wife and many of her friends endured this crap from their own mothers. Unfortunately those same mothers gave an excuse for misbehavior to their sons, and in some incidents to their husbands.

[@Webbgurl2000]

The phrase started with men though. It’s entitlement.

[@claregibert2939]

Please don’t blame mothers any more than we should blame the women who are the objects of male lust. Men who do this are the ones who are to blame. Period. And Dads ought to parent their sons as well.

[@davidrada241]

To both posters. You are correct. My apology for my visceral response.

[@Jose-Gonzalez-cfl]

Boys will be boys... Until they're taught to be gentlemen. And that's not happening enough. My dad taught me, be courteous, stand for what's right, defend those who can't, etc... I'm a skinny small guy (5'6", 120 #) and I'm tired being the one intervening, while men twice my size, just keep walking. I've never been hurt, or had to get physical, maybe cause it's amusing that the smallest guy in the room is the one to intervene, lol 😊 (and as my dad says, the bigger they are, the harder they fall, so go for the legs, lol!)

[@serendipity9649]

@davidrada241 I understand where you are coming from. My father tried to teach my brothers to go out & get it, just don't get caught (as in pregnancy). Yet, as a girl, I was not allowed to do a lot of things because boys were only out for one thing (sex, of course). Trying to inform him that those girls...were some other dad's daughter.....he didn't care. Luckily, our mom was a fantastic mom. Bros are still married almost 50 years later to the same educated, strong women and never took dad's advice 😊

[@Struthio_Camelus]

_Everything I Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten_ Keep your hands (and other appendages) to yourself. Everything I see is _not_ mine. It's simple, really.

[@NopeUghUghAbsolutelyNot]

I have been trying to pen a book by this name for 15yrs now

[@Struthio_Camelus]

@@NopeUghUghAbsolutelyNot Robert Fulgham wrote it in 1986.

[@NopeUghUghAbsolutelyNot]

@@Struthio_Camelus Ohhh, I need to give that a read... and find a new title lol

[@tammystockley-loughlin7680]

Great book...needs a reprint. But you can still find it at thrift stores. Positive vibes from New Hampshire,remember to be kind to each other and yourself during these trying times.

[@hopefulskeptic42]

​@@NopeUghUghAbsolutelyNotHow about...'You can't have everything you see.'

[@UnashamedCaliforniagirl]

I am tired of it. I have been wearing ankle length skirts and still have guys hitting on me or bugging me. I asked to be left alone . Why is it that a woman trying to live a godly life doesn't matter? If a man can't control himself around a woman maybe he is the one lacking spiritual maturity. I can't control what goes on in a man's mind. That's his responsibility not mine. If I can control myself around an attractive member of the opposite sex I don't see how they have the excuse that they just couldn't help themselves.

[@silverghostcat1924]

That's exactly what it is, an excuse. They could control themselves, but they chose not to. End of discussion.

[@signespencer6887]

When I was younger, I would wear chunky shoes, baggy jeans, loose-ish shirts and sweaters, hair in braids, no make-up. And nevertheless men would act like they thought I was a prostitute. Scary and I could hardly have been dressed more modestly, less sexy.

[@wolfe6220]

Men see what they WANT to see!

[@tianikane3312]

Even dressing ourself in grunge and no make up, we were still hit on, and still are in our 70's. As an asexual, we would say PO thx.

[@juliachildress2943]

The excuse the fundy community uses is that "men are visual, something women can't understand."

[@michelegyselinck5400]

Yes! MEN, lust is YOUR problem. Deal with it.

[@ChristianCatboy]

I dealt with it by getting medically castrated. How's that for taking the Bible at it's word? Had to "gouge out and throw away" the thing that was dragging me to Hell. Thank God for Matthew 19:12, which clearly affirms the special Spiritual calling of those who "make themselves eunuchs for the sake of the Kingdom of Heaven"!

[@sundayoliver3147]

@@ChristianCatboy That would have been better put, YOUR lust is YOUR problem. Not mine, or any other woman's. We don't owe men anything, and we're not responsible for men's emotions and drives.

[@SamClemens-id3cl]

I heard this from someone else: society would NEVER give a thief any sympathy or mitigation for stealing an expensive watch, because the owner/wearer was tempting the thief by wearing it.

[@cassandro9445]

Preach!

[@beverly719]

I love this! 👍✌️

[@artemismoon7655]

And yet men get so offended when women say they would rather encounter a random bear in the woods than a random man.

[@jaiyabyrd4177]

Amen

[@lyndafjellman3315]

Anyone who thinks that "modest" clothing will keep men from being "naughty" should look into the experiences of women in places where they have to go fully veiled.

[@sundayoliver3147]

Not to mention women in fundamentalist communities of various sorts who wear modest clothing but nonetheless...

[@gnostic268]

Not to mention that women have experienced unwanted attentions, etc throughout history no matter what clothing they wore. From about 1830-1920 women were wearing clothes that covered almost all of their bodies from high necked blouses, long sleeves, boots and floor length skirts. This is one of the issues with patriarchal mindsets

[@scj2117]

Don't forget the little kids and babies.

[@stevenelson2641]

Missus here: IT happens whether women are dressed modestly or not. Matthew 5 is perfect; giving men the responsibility for their own actions. Remember, sin starts in your mind. Well said Rev!

[@denisemayosky1955]

I remember seeing a documentary about Orthodox Jews where they would make the woman in the household take a ritual bath to purify herself, and even if she was merely passing her husband the salt and he had an impure thought towards her, SHE had to go take a bath to purify HERSELF, even though he was the one who had a bad thought. I remember thinking that was just about the dumbest thing I had ever heard of.

[@vixendoe6943]

@@denisemayosky1955 It really is so typical. All three Abrahamic religions have gone out of their way to denigrate women.

[@theelephantintheroom8016]

Men, grow up, have some honor and respect, and get control over your emotions!

[@Plethorality]

And other bits.

[@sundayoliver3147]

It is true that men in patriarchal culture get pretty much forced to have no emotions but anger and sexual drive; I'm hoping we're coming to the end of that, better for all genders.

[@denisemayosky1955]

​@@sundayoliver3147 Sadly, Christian Nationalists want to go back to that, so they can do as they please with no repercussions.

[@vixendoe6943]

I live in Maine. A few years ago a man sued his next door neighbor because she was mowing her lawn topless. It actually went to court. The case was found in her favor. On her own property she could wear, or not wear, what ever she wanted. Just for kicks once in awhile she would mow al natural.

[@wolfe6220]

Outrageous,! How could she do that without SAFETY GLASSES?? Doesnt she care about eye safety?? Did she at least put on sunblock? Skin cancer is no joke! 😆 All I can think about is getting grass clippings in uncomfortable places. 😂

[@vixendoe6943]

@@wolfe6220 Riding lawnmower, grass catcher, no stray clippings. She is a smart cookie. No worries.

[@Salina-qd6es]

wolfe6220 omg lmao! Too funny!

[@dragondancer1814]

@@vixendoe6943Knowing the mosquitoes up there, one would hope that she was at least wearing bug dope!

[@vixendoe6943]

@@dragondancer1814 in the heat of the day, no bugs. A good breeze, no bugs. You learn to work around the mosquitoes.

[@ProctorsGamble]

Rape is a crime of violence, not sex.

[@everise3439]

“But she was wearing that skimpy dress.” This is the excuse for assault men have used for eons. “Stop dressing the way you do women or we won’t be responsible for our actions.” There is a two word name for this, but I probably shouldn’t type it.

[@ad-dx9gi]

Agreed, also tell men to stop going around with no shirts on ..

[@Maerahn]

Yeah....I was assaulted at the age of nineteen, after a Christmas fancy dress party. I was dressed as a REINDEER at the time, in a baggy brown sweater, brown cordroy sweatpants and with a pair of plastic antlers on my head. I'd love to have heard the rationale for THAT getting a dude's private on parade.

[@dragondancer1814]

Two words indeed: Walking. Groin!

[@gloriadonahue7241]

Men need to stop walking around with those wallets. Those wallets with credit cards and cash. If something happens to them then it's their own fault for carrying that wallet around. Do you see how ridiculous that sounds

[@denisemayosky1955]

​​​@@gloriadonahue7241 That's probably what the Levite and the priest - who both walked by the wounded man on the side of the road - thought in the story of the Good Samaritan, imo. Otherwise, why not stop to help? Thankfully, the Samaritan *did* stop to help!

[@juliachildress2943]

My neighbor recently came home driving a divine cherry-red sports car. I told him "you're going to need to park that car in your garage because you're forcing me to covet."

[@Salina-qd6es]

😅

[@were-owlinwisconsin4441]

But isn't the whole point of buying a sports car to leave it on the driveway to make your neighbors sick with envy?

[@Wordweaver166]

@@were-owlinwisconsin4441 The only time I cared about what cars the neighbours had was when I was in my early teens and competing with my brother about who could find the car with the weirdest reflector shapes in their rear lights. We would go through the neighbourhood after dark with flashlights to find out.

[@julietfischer5056]

@@were-owlinwisconsin4441- Especially if it was bought in the throes of a mid-life crisis, as though the neighbors wouldn't immediately know (and want to rescue the car).

[@silverghostcat1924]

You're free to covet all you want, as long as you don't steal it.

[@chriswandell3570]

even if the girl is naked in front of you, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS AND CONTROL! love the sermon Ed. If the girl consents, and she changes her mind in the middle of the act, you stop, its that simple. I personally, don't care what thoughts go through your head, but as soon as you act on it, the act is done, and you must pay the repercussions of your actions. But yes leave the animal behind.

[@dianewiegel7136]

No responsibility on the men, honestly. I hope my son looks at the character of a person , man or woman. We expect men and women to not act on those natural urges in a civilized society. Clothes do not make the person.

[@silverghostcat1924]

It's like the story where they drag the adulteress before Jesus to be stoned. My question has been for a long time, "where's the man?". It's not like she committed adultery all by herself!! Both parties participated, both parties should face the same consequences.

[@Salina-qd6es]

Yeah like many I thought about that but I often wondered about the wive's, g.f.? They were just as vicious/eager to see her stoned. I figured Mary Magdalene was the easy target to project their "sins/issues". A misogynistic culture/religion, even if she said no, he would take/rape (blame/shame, zero accountability) & w/no partner/husband to lend crediblity/protect automatic threat to wive's suspect infidelity but unable to confront/divorce passive/aggressive behavior (withholding sex) green eyed monster directed at M.M. Holy cow what a mess they create/project. M.M. probably tried to keep low profile as much as possible. Hey isn't there a story of her being a beauty & Rabbi's exploiting her/beauty, love of God to basically pimp her out for the church/synagogue. Easy to understand why/how she fell in love w/Jesus 🤔

[@were-owlinwisconsin4441]

I realized something about that story recently. When Jesus said that whoever was without sin could cast the first stone, he was talking about himself. He was the only one there without sin, he could have gone ahead and thrown the stone... but he offered forgiveness instead. It's foreshadowing for the redemption offered by the cross.

[@deankostas7214]

The Pastor is right about modest clothes. And most decent persons and believers have control of their impulses. But women dressing in a provocative manner share responsibility for those who are suseptible?

[@silverghostcat1924]

@@deankostas7214 No. To say the way a person dresses is the reason they got attacked is blaming the victim for the attacker's action. Also r*pe is more about power and control, less about sex. Fully clothed women have been attacked. We need to quit blaming the victims and start holding the attackers accountable.

[@shewho333]

I believe a lot of “adultery” in the Bible was not often truly adultery but something much worse in which the woman was an innocent victim. It is still so in some countries today. In fact an “honor killing” happened in Texas I believe, not long ago where a father murdered his daughter because she was “defiled”. It was part of his “religious” beliefs.

[@lil_dragon_ly7120]

🎵🎶 "I'm starting with the man in the mirror I'm asking him to change his ways And no message could've been any clearer If you wanna make the world a better place Take a look at yourself and then make a change" 🎶🎵

[@nicholasbeck2649]

There's saunas, beaches, and campgrounds that men and women of all ages will go to where everyone is unclothed with no issues at all. There's peoples living in tropical areas where nudity and minimal clothing is very commonplace. Lust has nothing to do with how someone is dressed but is entirely an issue of self control on the person lusting and there's no excuse to not have that self control.

[@LimeyRedneck]

Angela Rayner is the Deputy Leader for Labour, our opposition party... Some Tories complained that Angela's legs were distracting them and suggested it might be intentional!! 😳 'Woman possesses legs in the seat of government, SHOCKER!!' 😱

[@sundayoliver3147]

Sometimes it's hard for me to understand why so many don't see the idiocy of this.

[@silverghostcat1924]

A long time ago I saw this cartoon. In the first panel the man sees a woman in a calf length skirt, long sleeve, high neck blouse. In his imagination he's picturing her naked. Second panel he sees a woman in hijab. He imagines her naked. Third panel, a woman walks by wearing just a pair of high heels 👠. In his imagination - nothing, empty. So obviously dressing modestly didn't help 😉

[@Salina-qd6es]

Omg that was sooo funny! 😅😂

[@julietfischer5056]

I call it the 'cookie jar effect.' Parents hiding the cookie jar just makes the cookies more enticing. The body-covering clothes call as much attention to a woman's body as any bikini. For a certain type of immature man, that's a challenge. He's not thinking of her as a person, or even that she might not be attractive: he's fantasizing about what he wants.

[@silverghostcat1924]

@@julietfischer5056 I agree

[@sarahbutler7138]

I grew up receiving the message from my church that if I was touched against my will it was my fault because of how I was dressed or how I behaved. Thank you for addressing this. Hopefully, the next generation can grow in the knowledge that being assaulted is never their fault!

[@sundayoliver3147]

You don't just hear that message in church: it's everywhere. Including courts, which is why so many rape cases go unreported.

[@Voodoofairy88]

My former stepdad was career Army. Outside of his Army career he was a Southern Methodist Minister. When we got orders to move to what was then West Germany, my stepsister was 8, our baby sister was 4 & I had just turned 11. When we got orders back to the states, the Wall had come down, I was now 16 & driving, stepsister 13 & our now 10yo sister had already hit puberty. Of course as soon as we got set up at our new duty station all the friends & family started coming to visit. It was summer, super hot, & we were in a mobile home with no ac. Mom came in & told us someone was on their way over & we needed to go "put some clothes on." My stepdad stopped & said "Girls, don't move! Excuse me? What did you say? No, I don't think so! If our daughters have to "put clothes on" for them to come over then they're NOT coming in this house! So either you can go out & tell them when they get here or I am. And I'll make damn sure they know they aren't welcome back!"

[@Maerahn]

Your stepdad is awesome. I really, really wish there were more dads like him in this world.

[@Voodoofairy88]

@@Maerahn I got lucky & got a second & equally awesome stepdad after him too. The one between them & my father, not so much. (Mom had 5 husbands, my dad was no. 2) My father's second wife was no prize either but she's the only one of 7 or 8 after my mom that I ever had contact with. Let's just say if I wrote a book about the first 16 years of my life they would have to sell it in the horror genre. 🤦‍♀️ Sprinkled with a little comic relief that borders on the absurd 🤷‍♀️😂

[@silverghostcat1924]

@@Voodoofairy88 that's a lot of ex's!! Sounds like that would be quite the book. Course, you would have to change the names to protect the innocent 😇 and not so innocent 😈

[@deedrole5296]

If they want to be remembered fondly the should have behaved better​@@silverghostcat1924

[@ParanormalEncyclopedia]

Amen Reverend. As a man this always offends me. Yes as a straight male an attractive woman will catch my eye but i can control myself. It offends me that other men use saying that bs.

[@katieoberst490]

It infantilizes men to the extreme. I'm always surprised more men don't see that.

[@rdlewis3616]

I have a friend who is a teacher in middle school, and one of her classes is overloaded with boys, so she made a new seating arrangement where she scattered the girls among the boys, the idea being to stop the horsing around. As a retired teacher myself I understand, but I also see how even young girls are expected to regulate boys’ behavior. It is sad.

[@monikarathbone3478]

Hard to believe God put us on this earth naked 🤔

[@2Question-Everything]

Yeah, if god had wanted us to run around naked we'd been born that way.

[@donaldwert7137]

If you can't move beyond those animalistic desires, at least understand they are *your* desires and no one else's. Like your hands, keep them to yourself If you feel the need to pray over them, do so, just don't act on them unless it's with another consenting adult who reciprocates.

[@MarcosElMalo2]

My favorite line from The Big Lebowski is “He treats objects like women, man.”

[@user-io9wt2lk5u]

Things never change. The nuns used to say this all the time back 60.70 years ago: keep your buttons buttoned, don’t wear straight skirts, or pullover sweaters, take off the make up you are an occasion of sin. I can’t tell you how long Ifelt sinfull because I wore aB34 bra

[@markastoforoff7838]

I lived in a place with a bunch of other people for a couple of years. One guy who was devout in his religion (it wasn't Christianity, but I'm sure there are many Christians who would agree with his viewpoint) but he said that if a woman is sexually assaulted (he used the word that starts with the letter r but not sure if I use the word I will get banned from commenting for a period of time) that it's her fault for dressing like a (word that starts with the letter s). I don't care how a woman or man for that matter dresses no one has the right to do that to another person and it's their fault not the person who is dressed too sexy.

[@Kristen-ek9rz]

Religion and God are very different....he sounds like a very sick soul.

[@veronicaharwick9013]

Pastor Bobby Leonard with Bible Baptist Tabernacle basically gave a sermon preaching that very same message. He said that if he was on the jury of a man accused of rape and she wasn't dressed modestly at the time he would vote in favor of the rapist. 😔

[@katpiercemusic]

If I were walking down the street and I saw someone eating a delicious steak and I just took it off their plate and started eating it, no one would accept the excuse that I was pecking and it looked good. People who steal cars can’t blame the paint job. No one would blame a successful farmer for the actions of the poacher. Why is it only women, who sometimes experience horrible violence as a result, blamed for the actions of their attackers? Besides that, the clothes are just a convenient excuse that society will accept. It’s not like women don’t get cat called, harassed, and assaulted even when they’re dressed modestly. The clothes are an excuse.

[@lyndafjellman3315]

It is legal to go topless in Oregon in public. Equality is for everyone not just the special people. People forget that it has only been about 100 years since men were allowed to go topless in public.

[@user-dc4cm8nz1f]

A more relevant analogy is if you went to the pub, which was serving alcohol, and asked them to stop serving alcohol while you were there because people might be tempted. You know, because the pub owner needs to help out the sinners.That's basically what you tried to shame women into doing. We women are trying to live our lives and inevitably there's some yahoo who thinks we should spend our time and energy helping men out. Help the same people who terrorize us, make laws over our bodies, pay us less, penalize us for being mothers, etc. We're not saints. Solve your own problems. I just can't with the entitlement men feel to us, our bodies and our time and labor.

[@arianahoule7223]

I could only watch a couple of minutes of this. That message has haunted me all my life. It's my fault that my dad started molesting me at "4." It's my fault I was raped twice in my teens. I did everything I could to keep the creeps away. This is a big reason women put on weight. It doesn't keep all the creeps away but it helps.

[@contrafax]

My father's father, blamed my sisters for being born girls. I wonder what excuse he made when he found out my father also raped his sons?

[@SP-ml3bs]

I was sexually assaulted even though I was dressed modestly and was wearing an old baggy jeans and a thick large sweater that completely covered me up. Also, my hair was thrown back in a pony tail and I had no make-up on; I looked awful that evening. Older men used to hit on me all the time back in my teens and 20's and I have always dressed modestly because sexual attention makes me feel unsafe. Men who can't control themselves around women and girls are weak. They need to work on themselves instead of telling women and girls how to dress and behave.

[@silverghostcat1924]

It's like people talking about dogs being aggressive and blaming it on the dog. As the saying goes, "They're blaming the wrong end of the leash".

[@ShinChara]

Nature is supposed to grow. Overcoming your own challenges is how you grow. Growing is the whole point. Making other people solve your problems for you is just a way to avoid them, and avoid growing.

[@MrLoveandKindness]

I hope you all see a beautiful flower today😊🌻

[@staceybowers3945]

I dont do organized religion. I can't stand to hear preachers, pasters, fathers (or whatever you call your person) because of the puke that spills out of their mouths but i do like listening and agree with most of what rev. Ed Trevors says. He is the only one i listen to now.

[@ReneeJoan]

The men should stop tempting us women by flashing their wealth!! When I see that Rolex, that Bentley, I just HAVE to grab and take what I see. Men shouldn’t flash their wealth.

[@ivybee347]

Assault is always blamed on the clothes meanwhile old ladies, unfortunately little girls, babies boys, men, nuns etc. get attacked but somehow it's the clothes. This is why women and even some men would rather encounter a wild bear than a strange man. Every woman you know has a story about a man doing something to her. The bear for the most part doesn't want anything to do with me . If the bear does attack it's not doing so for fun or its pleasure and would not try to draw it out for sick purposes. Unfortunately, I cannot say the same about a human.

[@vettnetkramer1233]

I don't dress to impress. I dress to blend in, to be comfortable. If you don't like what i wear, then don't look at me. Lucky for me, I'm not beautiful. 😊 No temptation here!😊

[@silverghostcat1924]

The real problem has nothing to do with looks or dress, but some men's attitudes that they are entitled to have sex with whoever they choose with no repercussions and that person doesn't get a say in the matter.

[@Salina-qd6es]

Why would you say that about yourself? Beauty's in eye of beholder. Do you not see how beautiful you were created? Yes as a female/male, LGBTQ. Besides what a mess if we were all attracted to same person. 😉

[@vettnetkramer1233]

@Salina-qd6es I was a pretty girl. Puberty did me no favors. When i started looking weird, my mom said that mother nature was turning me into a beautiful woman. Does a beautiful woman get called sir or a gentleman? It happened once in front of her, and I thought she was going to have a fit. Anyways I'm ok with it. I just smile or chuckle. It doesn't matter to me. I don't have to worry about guys "cat calling" me. I've got that inner beauty.

[@Salina-qd6es]

@@vettnetkramer1233 ty for clarifying that makes sense.

[@NopeUghUghAbsolutelyNot]

I dress to impress myself. It's pure vanity I am fully aware... I just like what I see when I catch my reflection😆

[@bettyworkman9460]

This is sickening. Men have their hearts and minds off God. If this will be their excuse, men dress appropriately. No more spanks, Speedos, tight jeans, and put on a shirt! For goodness sakes pull up your pants! God bless you Rev. Ed. I love your. Insightful videos.

[@Poesjewel]

as a woman, i am so tired of being responsible for mens' thoughts/feelings/behavior/actions. it is something we are made aware of at a very young age, and its BS. we have to be responsible for ourselves AND all men? when do they take responsibility? we live our lives feeling like prey in a cage, and they tell us we cant hurt mens' feelings or ruin their life by reporting them, when a single choice any one of them makes can ruin ours. if that wasn't enough, some men dont even see us as humans worthy of living if we're not doing what they want. blaming it on dress is a copout. from experience, i can confirm that it does not matter. i was harrassed as much while covered up and visibly pregnant, as when i was young and showing skin. a man sexually assaulted an elderly woman in a NYC street recently. i doubt she was showing much skin. its just another way they try to make us take responsibility for their sins.

[@suzannepottsshorts]

Since she was two days old and thwapped the bow of her forehead, our girl has believed "clothing is optional." She still hates shoes, but will usually keep her clothes on. All her dolls get theirs removed, though. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[@esseneth]

I was that way as a child. There's a story about a mortified UPS guy trying to get my mother to put clothes on me. He just didn't get that I'd strip them off as soon as my mother's back was turned. She gave up. Eventually I gave in and started wearing clothes.

[@davidlarson3723]

If one’s godliness/righteousness is dependent on how a woman dresses, perhaps one isn’t as godly as they imagine.

[@sandyzalecki1145]

I was told one time in a church that it was my fault a that an 80 year old deacon tried to rape me in the back of the church because my neck wasn't completely covered up. If he was a deacon dedicated to the Lord a women in a bathing suit should have been able to walk through the door and he wouldn't have had a problem with it. Although I do believe that women should dress modestly because that's what it says in the Bible, our sins are our sins not someone else's fault.

[@ChristianCatboy]

What it says in the Bible is that women should not dress ostentatiously, flaunting their wealth. It actually doesn't say anything about skin exposure in the New Testament. Cf. "Let us throw off everything that hinders...", in reference to running a race, which implies the Greek custom of participating in athletics in the nude.

[@twocents8355]

Covering up does not protect women. Or girls for that matter. Sad that so many in clergy won't face the reality of women's lives and instead identify with misbehaving men.

[@yvettejon3372]

My sister is Conservative and has said that multiple times. She was offended by women on the beach in swimsuits. I had to tell her she was being ridiculous. Men are responsible for their thoughts and actions, just like women are responsible for theirs. Your eyes are your own, your thoughts are your own. Take responsibility.

[@ChristianCatboy]

Don't go to the beach, if you're afraid to see human skin.

[@2Question-Everything]

If they can't control themselves, why have they been in control of the world for so long? Seems like we made bad choices way back in history. Good thought question-what would the world be like today if women had had a seat at the table from the start? Couldn't have possibly ended up in the state it's in.

[@gloriadonahue7241]

That bank across the street with all that money makes me nervous. how dare that bank house so much money. How dare men walk around with their wallets. I'll bet there's even money and credit cards in those wallets. That takes a lot of nerve to walk around with a wallet with money in it in front of me who lusts after money

[@postalghost830]

Same as forcing burkas & chadors on women. Sorry to pick on Muslims, but I used to be one & this always did stick in my craw.

[@antinancy]

As a young, average-looking, but fairly well-endowed woman, I went out of my way to dress modestly--no tight pants or tops, always high-necked tops with full coverage, simple, natural hair, no makeup, etc., etc. Men still pawed at me, brushed against me, stared at my breasts, and made suggestive or even overtly sexual comments. This was in the 80s, so people were less aware, but still...it SURE wasn't about me trying to attract attention.

[@sbutler0305]

Started in the Garden of Eden. Perhaps that was really the first sin, Adam blaming Eve for his sin

[@sundayoliver3147]

Or god blaming Eve for sin, and applying it to every human.

[@shewho333]

If we say something that implies that a man is not in total control, we’re in trouble. But this implies that men have absolutely no control over themselves and they need to be minded like children. But if we say “grow up” to a man behaving badly…Uh-oh look out! I’m getting old, but I have three teen daughters and it’s so hard not to be pessimistic and terrified for all the experiences they may have at the hands of people (other women especially) who will blame them for simply existing and getting hurt.

[@dzefse.9781]

Some years ago in a homily, our priest pointed out that the very first time on record that we have a sin, the first thing Adam and Eve tried to do was pass the buck. Yes well, it was the woman who set me to it! Yes well, why aren't we talking about that snake? We can't know, but how might things in the Garden have shaken out differently if Adam had said "you're right! You told me what to do, and I knew what You told me, and yet here I am."

[@suelingsusu1339]

The very same fundamentalist Christians who say this, obliviously and cluelessly deride and ridicule Islamists who say the same thing.... 😂

[@orionspero560]

You had me going to the point where I clicked away, took 5 deep breaths, and said I want to come back to make sure he's saying what it sounds like he's saying. Came back for a couple more minutes and it turned out you were saying exactly the office of the weather initially sounded like you were saying. I sure am glad I gave you a full five minutes.

[@melodys.portlandoregon556]

Excellent! I hope that Churches that enforce the purity culture dogma may be inspired by what you have said. There is a very serious dark underbelly to that particular dogma.

[@sundayoliver3147]

I find it creepy. The girls "belong" to their fathers until they "belong" to a husband.. Overtones of approved incest and women as chattels.

[@ChardeeMacdennis339]

I’m an atheist so I’m not totally sure how this got into my algorithm but I’m glad it did! I really appreciated your thoughts on this and I couldn’t agree more, even if it is from a secular perspective 😊

[@MichaelYoder1961]

There's an old joke "men unzip their pants and their brain falls out."

[@silverghostcat1924]

🤣Was it Carlin who joked about not enough blood in men's bodies to run both heads at the same time?

[@morganeoghmanann9792]

@@silverghostcat1924 I believe Robin Williams said that during an interview with Walters

[@silverghostcat1924]

@@morganeoghmanann9792 probably. It's a good joke 🤣

[@Qresmaidapa]

@@silverghostcat1924 Haha

[@diannahill5577]

We all must take responsibility. It's the way we all should be. Thank you.🤗

[@ad-dx9gi]

Thanks Rev Ed Great Rant love this totally Agree..Amen you said it wonderfully..Women have a right to dress the way theywant..I used to work with women and The way they dress there not sending singles to men there feeling good about themselves and feeling beautiful and having self esteem...This preacherbis way off key God Bless 🕊️ Nimultis

[@weaviejeebies]

If women could stop harassment by covering up, then why have Islamic practices like niqab and burka failed? Why does purdah not result in safety for women rather than kept things as dangerous as the medieval era? Because it's not about removing temptation for men. It's about scapegoating women for the sins of men. As Fr. says here, sins are ours. Does anyone think the Son of God can't tell who's lacking in discipline?

[@andrewcoon7695]

So, I can blame the bank for tempting me to rob it?!?!

[@brendalong3852]

Amen.

[@LeftistJesus]

I downloaded an online game the other day, and after booting it up, I jumped right into the character creation. They had different races, with both male and female models to choose and customize. The women were all dressed as scandalously as you could imagine... But they had a race of robot player characters. The male versions were all Android like models, all steel, giant limbs, no human like characteristics at all... But the female ROBOTS still had a bust, exposed skin, female faces. I uninstalled it immediately. It wasn't because I was tempted, I was angry. Why? Why do robots need breasts? An exposed midriff? There were 4 other races of humanoids to choose from... But they couldn't not do it. I've said it before, I hate this world. So much.

[@ProctorsGamble]

Why do robots even need genders? 🤔

[@MelanaMorgan-qy8qv]

I am so grateful for your suggestions for living. Thank you.

[@mimio008]

Also women know lust too. Sometimes you'll be sitting behind a broad shouldered guy in a tight shirt and you have to stop staring. You find a way, and no one has to ever know how you felt at that moment, until you blast it in a KZbin comment. All that to say, women know lust, they also know to deal with it. Men could try it.

[@ChristianCatboy]

As a trans female, my experience is that lust was indeed a lot harder to deal with when I was under the influence of male hormones. That isn't an excuse, though. Any man who's too weak to endure that situation with honor is welcome to transition! (Matt 19:12)

[@stephanieholmes5272]

I had a pastor tell the entire congregation, including us straight women, to not look at, shop at or walk past a Victoria Secret store. I didn't get what the difference was between buying bras there and buying them at Wal-Mart

[@chrisester2910]

Tablecloths were invented to hide curvey table legs to keep men from getting lusty thoughts. 'Nough said.

[@margaretjohnson6259]

i read a book about muslim women in the middle east. a mother, wearing a burqa takes her of-age daughter to the burqa store to get her first garment. as they walk in and the girl is in regular clothes the men on the street don't even look her way. when she comes out wearing the burqa all the men stared at her interested now. even a burqa can look sexy.

[@jaquellae]

Shouldn't men poke their eye out if they're having such trouble looking at women? Isn't that in the Bible somewhere? Edit to add: this "thinking about something is the same as doing it" is kind of problematic. It "flattens" the sin scale by making just thinking something the same as doing something.

[@silverghostcat1924]

I always thought that was a stupid way of thinking. Reminds me of that bit about feeling up a girl by George Carlin and how there was 7 sins in one feel. And if you thought about it, you could save yourself the cab fare going to her house, because thinking about it was the same as doing it. Sounds great in a comedy bit but not practical in the real world. 😸

[@denisemayosky1955]

Maybe the way to approach it is, as we like to say, "Don't even think about it!!"

[@eldonscott2499]

Years ago in Oklahoma City there was a house with a sign on the roof that said, Tv Dirty? Turn it off.

[@jenniferleibig1901]

Thank you for discussing this issue.

[@Stuff_And_Things]

Interestingly, in a world where no-one wears cloths temptation is much less common. It is true that men tend to be weaker when it comes to sexual attraction. This is not genetics though. The difference is societal. Men are expected to be strong, virile, "manly". Women are expected to be chaste until marriage. While that expectation may have relaxed a bit on both sides on the whole, its still the expectation in many parts of the US and around the world. Its the Pavlov's dog thing. Its not enough to tell women to wear more cloths. In the Middle East, an exposed ankle or head of hair is enough. In the stricter countries a mesh covers the eye slit of the burka lest a man should catch a glimpse of the eyes. God forbid the woman should walk in a manner that could be interpreted as "sexy".

[@jerushamaxwell281]

I once saw a family in a Toronto airport, the wife dressed in full-coverage black chador with mesh across her eyes, and long black gloves. The husband and their small daughter and son wore western style summertime lightweight clothing, and I felt sorry for her - knowing that she'd have no right to even go outside her home without accompaniment by a male relative. Doesn't matter what I think, though. I'm a free Canadian female who's earned my keep since the 1970's.

[@williamsifton6270]

The words MUST COME FROM YOUR OWN LIPS!

[@leahvillmer9853]

Thank you!!

[@contrafax]

This young lady (decades ago) and I were in bed, getting ready to do the deed. We were barely dressed(insert song lyrics here) and she changed her mind. The yes became a no. Desiring my self respect more than her I went home to my solo bed. Problem solved, crisis averted.

[@ChristianCatboy]

It's probably a positive commentary on your character that she felt safe enough to say "no".

[@contrafax]

@@ChristianCatboy Huh, good point.

[@helenmurphree3434]

Maybe they can wear solar eclipse glasses 🕶 to prevent wandering 👀

[@ad-dx9gi]

The Twilight zone

[@zackschooley5858]

What the preacher was saying, is Christian men will be Christian men. That doesn’t speak highly of the men in his church

[@raywinters1472]

Mt 5:28 in essence says: "grow up in spirit, stop your self serving thoughts and let God lead you away from temptation."

[@AlsanPine]

O SON OF BEING! How couldst thou forget thine own faults and busy thyself with the faults of others? Whoso doeth this is accursed of Me. A26 Hidden Words of Bahá’u’lláh O SON OF BEING! Thy heart is My home; sanctify it for My descent. Thy spirit is My place of revelation; cleanse it for My manifestation. A58 Hidden Words of Bahá’u’lláh

[@GwenMeek]

My son served in Kosovo/Macedonia … full hijabs. Many women raped… he was horrified…. Sure he saw it in Afghanistan and it sure goes on here in US of A…

[@amberinthemist7912]

If modesty matter children would never be sexually assaulted. Ime religion was a tool used by the men around me to blame women for everything bad they did and thought and to keep them from doing any childcare or housework. It would have been fun to be raised around men using religion to help people or be good people but I haven't run into any of those yet.

[@esseneth]

My mother once told me that we should all be able to run around in public naked without any fear for our safety. Society might not be that way, but that's not my problem. That's society's problem. However, I'm not naive. I still wear clothing. I also push society toward the goal of freedom and safety.

[@lisabrygger9168]

Hail Mary , Mother of God/Truth ! ! ! Mary's Daughters be Fierce against the Corrupt Politicians and Religious Leaders Prevailing in Our World. Love Always to The Pure of Heart , Joy, Peace, Enlightenment

[@annalieff-saxby568]

I honestly heard (on BBC Radio 4) a Muslim man complaining that *a woman in a bourka* was "flaunting herself". Gentlemen, if you really can't stop thinking about sex constantly, take some heavy exercise. It worked perfectly well for the Victorian "Muscular Christians".

[@cynner950]

I'm expected to strictly police my urges in order to eat less and remain thin enough to be alluring, but he is not responsible for policing his urges if iam alluring.

[@DoloresGoffdeejays]

EXACTLY.

[@williamstefens]

So disgusted of the hypocrisy that puts a higher level of self control on woman than men, and blaming women for a man's emotional/ sexual lack of self control. What ever happened to personal responsibility and accountability? Lord knows I've had such lustful desire, and recognize what the woman is wearing is stirring such desires, I don't blame the women for wearing such an outfit as I own my own feelings and I'm responsible for for how I react to any situation or visual stimulus.

[@rochellemcdonald9646]

Within the past decade, some school went after a female student because her clavicles (collar bones) were visible, tempting her male classmates. She needed to cover up. Sounds like the minister would rather have the women seen in large potato sacks, if even seen at all.

[@scj2117]

There is an old picture of Marilyn Monroe in a flour sack... it won't work.

[@gerhardk98]

When you descend into the world of creeps you really have only yourself to blame.

[@Salina-qd6es]

Ohhh well said! Snap! Drop the mic! 👏

[@Knightshade08]

Always love to hear those who espouse "personal responsibility" tell other how they should live so those espousing can live their "righteous life." If you can't take responsibility for your actions, that's on you! Don't hide behind religious text to point the finger (I'm look at ALL of the religions, not just Christianity).

[@sirius1075]

Amen

[@olivianatwick7603]

You know I have never bought into the idea that we can't control our actions our emotions. We most definitely can if we choose to do so and the excuse of boys will be boys or they would not have gotten in trouble if they hadn't been wearing such skimpy clothing it just doesn't fly with me.

[@wolfe6220]

As a Stoic, you really dont have much control over what other people do. The only one you can control is yourself.

[@alicefreist318]

I'm not a very "churchy" person, nor do I consider myself Christian. I've studied Christianity some, and I've read several different versions of the Christian Bible. I've also had a great deal of exposure to conservative and reform Judaism, and some exposure to modern, Western Islam. I've done this learning mostly out of sheer, more-or-less academic curiosity. I suppose I'm what one might call "spiritual", rather than religious. My mother and I joked that I'm really judeo-pagan. I come to your videos with that perspective, and I find them inspiring. You give me hope for Christianity in particular and the world in general. It is so refreshing to hear someone celebrating the teachings of Jesus Christ! It is impressive that you are fully present in 2024 and yet also serious about the serious issues people are dealing with, and you have a positive, loving, RESPONSIBLE perspective, rather than the same old "fire and brimstone", fear-inspired, bullcrap! So anyway ... thank you. I appreciate what you have to say, on an intellectual and spiritual level. Thank you!

[@michelegyselinck5400]

GOOD GRIEF!

[@GraemeHogg]

I don't believe in God and I don't go around grabbing women either. You are one of the few religious people I will listen to. My cousin is married to a minister of the church of Scotland, in Scotland and shares this progressive way of thinking

[@andscifi]

I just wanted to take a moment to say how nice it is to follow someone who I can trust. I knew before I clicked this much of what the message would be. And I also thought of all of the pastors and church leaders I heard in the past talk the way that the person you're talking about did. Now thinking back it's a bit gross, but like so many things when you're young it's easy to believe what people who you're supposed to be able to trust tell you.

[@monikarathbone3478]

As I am getting older I have become mor modest 👍

[@CyclingM1867]

I do agree that people - not just women, but men, too - need to dress modestly, but it's also up to each and every person to practice self control. It's not just about controlling one's actions, but it's also about controlling one's thoughts. Thinking something is just the same as doing it as far as God is concerned.