Lamar Jackson will have the last word over Josh Allen in MVP race

[@caronnaguy2723]

This guy really said Week 4 was too early for Josh Allen, but brings up WEEK 1 for Lamar lmaoo

[@lennybeason1110]

Exactly! They be tripping 😂

[@kizzlejohnson2705]

@@caronnaguy2723 all they do is contradict themselves 🤷🤦💯

[@mrphillips9467]

@@caronnaguy2723 it’s nasty work

[@geraldjones7718]

Josh Allen is 3-3 against playoff teams Lamar is 5-2 with 2 more games left let's b real

[@brandoisrael3155]

Naw he’s 5-3

[@orphy6869]

And Lamar lost big games to Pitt and KC and then lost to absolutely junk teams in the raiders and Cleveland…GTFOH

[@jakethethird1584]

What is Lamar's record vs non playoff teams?!?

[@axe2grind244]

He beat the 2 best teams in the NFL at that time sir. Allen is far and away the most valuable and it’s not remotely close.

[@onlyfacts9820]

whats lamar record against non playoff teams? lmaoooooooo

[@AJCsr]

0:51 "Oh Three Touchdowns. That's really cute. Josh Allen has 11 touchdowns !" Allen pads his stats by taking the rushing TD's away from his runningbacks !

[@arizona_anime_fan]

look at the rushing td totals for his running backs. james cook has 13, second most in the NFL, josh allen has 11. and i'm not crowning lamar for doing what lamar does every year. statpad against a couple of bottom feeders, like he hung 5tds on the giants. every single mvp season for the ravens he does that two or three times, accumulating like half his season totals in like 2 or 3 games.

[@joshuaokparaocha331]

@@arizona_anime_fanQuick look at which teams Allen throws for 3 or more TDs against

[@fuegomaneberryb1210]

@@arizona_anime_fan Also put up 5 TDs against a Bucs team that was extremely hot at the time. While also throwing for a perfect passer rating.

[@Lik-e8h]

James Cook is tied for the most rushing tds in the league you goofy

[@adamletschin2509]

Lamar could have 20 rushing td's if he wanted to. They just never call his number down there. It's either Henry or a passin td

[@shuturmouthkeeptlkn9384]

I think he's trying to play to the gameplay a little too strict and he'll unleash in the playoffs

[@kizzlejohnson2705]

I know y'all Josh Allen fans wishing and hoping Josh can win🤷 .... But I'm sorry guys it's clearly MVP MV3 💪 💯 Lj8

[@kingroyalty9621]

Lamar beat the Breaks off him !

[@kingroyalty9621]

Ravens haven’t lost pieces 🤔 Ravens lost 3 starters on their Offensive Line …lost their Safety who led the league in INTS…lost Patrick Queen & Clowney…also lost all their coaches on defense but of course the media won’t push this narrative!

[@kingroyalty9621]

Ravens haven’t lost pieces 🤔 Ravens lost 3 starters on their Offensive Line …lost their Safety who led the league in INTS…lost Patrick Queen & Clowney…also lost all their coaches on defense but of course the media won’t push this narrative!

[@kingroyalty9621]

Has anyone mentioned the TOMATO CANS in the bills division? The MIGHTY PATRIOTS/JETS & DOLPHINS 🐬 🧐

[@kingroyalty9621]

Bro looking like 95 Penny Hardaway

[@morrays1996]

lol Lamar has to carry a dogshit defense

[@ChrissyAnn85]

And Josh isn’t doing the same thing? Bills defense is not that good 😂😂

[@SonofAGunFrom410]

You don't get credit for a touchdown if all you did was a 1 yard qb sneak.😂 Sorry.

[@peterjohnson1734]

These Lamar fangirls are working overtime to slam Allen and put their idol on a pedestal! I wonder why?

[@TheJimnjas]

Cooking him right on up. Well done sir!

[@solomen1234]

There are two reasons they do not want Lamar to win the MVP. One is they do not want Lamar to get three MVPs before Mahomes, and they feel Josh Allen is a good way to take it from Lamar; however, Lamar is ahead of Josh in every category about MVP except rushing in touchdowns which he could easily accomplish if he did not give it to Henry in those situations.

[@ritewaypoolsandspas9143]

All Josh Allen touch down is goal line taking from the running back

[@lennybeason1110]

Facts!

[@Lik-e8h]

James cook leads RBs in rushing touchdowns. This isn’t hitting like you hoped 🤡

[@mrphillips9467]

So people just don’t see the ravens trash ass defense huh. Bro has to carry. Also……Josh Allen’s division is WEAK! Like stop it! My prediction is Lamar and the Ravens have to win out and bills need to loose at least one game. If ravens loose to Steelers, then MVP over.

[@ivorian_king33]

They gonna skip over the fact that the ravens had the worst secondary for most of the year.

[@skylangford6083]

Division strength is something I've been pitching in support of Lamar for a while now. Other than Allen, who else in the AFC East has an elite QB? Tua is good but nowhere close to elite. In the AFC North I can think of two elite QBs immediately, Joe Burrow and the Jackson 5

[@Lik-e8h]

Josh Allen’s defense just gave up 80+ pts in two games and he scored 80+ pts himself both games lmaoo. It ain’t close.

[@mrphillips9467]

@@skylangford6083 oh and a coach in Mike that has never had a loosing season lol. With both the Steelers and the Browns having elite defenses, which is the team that Lamar faces as a QB. Again, Josh Allen has only been in two teams that are making the playoffs this year in this 2024 season.

[@skylangford6083]

@@mrphillips9467 yup you're 100% correct

[@chrischilds368]

Lamar has definitely been having a better season. Lamar is a much better passer. Smarter passer as well. I still believe the Bills can lose a game coming up. Then the MVP will be in Lamar’s hands.

[@maisonmargielademon2915]

“A much better passer”😂😂😂

[@chrischilds368]

@ numbers don’t lie. Really, you can look at career numbers.

[@joshuarichardson5859]

Lamar Jackson isnt touching josh allens arm not even close

[@chrischilds368]

@@joshuarichardson5859 arm STRENGTH is the only thing Allen has on Lamar. Lamar’s arm strength is very underrated. Literally everything else is in Lamar’s favor. Lamar is a smarter more efficient passer. A better runner. More consistent etc.

[@Wolfthegreat779]

Facts

[@BuffaloBillsJP]

Lamar and the Ravens lost to the 2 win Raiders and 3 win Browns team and you mock the Bills losing to the Rams

[@Ezekielbush8-n4u]

True Lamar did lose to both of them teams as a matter of fact Lamar has 5 losses by 22 points total but he did beat Josh’s team by 25 points tho. Why you dont talk about tho🤦🏿‍♂️

[@BuffaloBillsJP]

@ Yep behind 200 yards rushing by King Henry. Jackson had 156 yards passing but he destroyed Buffalo 😒

[@khaliljohnson4331]

@@BuffaloBillsJPand 3 tds don’t forget that part

[@BuffaloBillsJP]

@@khaliljohnson4331 Still lost to Minshew and Trash Winston

[@travisbrand3135]

Ravens also beat the Bills 35-10 so that argument doesn’t work.

[@aishaabdullah381]

Lamar is not worried about a MVP. He has two. He can circle back and get it next year. Ravens want the Super Bowl MVP.

[@MrMydnight]

My argument for josh more than anything is him beating chiefs/lions. Two best teams in each conference. My argument for lamar is his stats are far superior to Josh. Lamar has 9 more passing tds than josh. Josh has more rushing tds. Mostly tush push. Now celebrated because Josh doing it but when Hurts was doing it, they were trying to ban it. But im pro lamar. But i think Josh wins it on record and big wins

[@TonyStayStyleN]

Lol Lamar destroyed Allan head to head…..🤔🤔🤔

[@weStayModest]

@@TonyStayStyleN also hung a perf passer rating against the bucs when at that point in time they were red hot.

[@Lik-e8h]

How are they *mostly tush push* mfs seen the rams game and think Josh is Jalen hurts lmaoo

[@Lik-e8h]

@@weStayModestBucs defense is trash. Also, They literally lost both of their top 2 WRs in that game💀

[@PaulY86-u8t]

I'm sure someone has already pointed out that Josh is #1 for QBR and equal #1 for total touchdowns. Also, context and expectations matter: Ravens sign Derrick Henry and are the obvious biggest threat to the Chiefs Bills werent even favorites to win the AFC East

[@ryerob4815]

That's hard to believe considering Lamar has had 11 games with above 100 QBR which is first. Josh wasn't on the list and Lamar is 1st in perfect QBR games. He has two games where he was 1 point or less away from perfect QBR.

[@PaulY86-u8t]

@ryerob4815 you are talking about passer rating

[@bronzeone1109]

Its only cool when QBs like Allen run. If Lamar does it's not good football. 😂😂😂 Please give it to him, he needs it. Lamar has two already.

[@ShopSportSport]

Stats don't tell the whole story. They didn't last year, and they don't now. Might not be top 5 in passing yards, but when the discrepancy is in the range of 200-300 yards after 14/15 games, it's only a percentage difference we're talking. We'd need to see a significant differential to the tune of 15%+ better or 1000+ yards in distance. Oh and Josh had way more touchdowns than Lamar last year since we're talking stats this year

[@dionwalker2667]

Dude, this bills team is a different team as the 1 the ravens beat earlier this season, 17 is a much better than 8, he's more complete than 8.

[@abel3694]

Imagine Allen had the ravens offense lol

[@kingroyalty9621]

Josh Allen has 11 Stush push 1 yard touchdowns ! All of a sudden the media wanna acknowledge rushing touchdowns for QBs …they have never done for Hurts or Lamar !

[@joshuaokparaocha331]

Kill is they are clowning Hurts this week for what he said in his press conference. Someone literally said on national television “He thinks he’s Josh Allen or something”. Tush pushes are only impressive when they’re done by the big white QB

[@Lik-e8h]

Lol Nice 30 yard “Tush Push” TD for Josh against KC 💀💀💀

[@joeyh9116]

Goff outperformed Josh Allen during that same game.

[@mjbrads]

Josh Allen is more exciting to watch.

[@21215sheek]

These Allen fans are sounding as delusional as today's modern woman

[@kingri8358]

none of this means shit until they both make it to a super bowl and win fuck the good-looking stats make it to the super bowl win a ring then brag on the stats like why is this even up for a debate right now

[@cheesecurldarl1700]

you do understand most of allen’s td runs are from the 1 right ? while lamar is giving them to his rbs ? ya seem a bit biased lmao

[@Lik-e8h]

Actually they’re not lmaoo. Mfs aren’t watching the games. and even then, how are they getting to the 1???

[@cheesecurldarl1700]

@ doesn’t really matter how you get to the one the fact is he’s running 10 yards tops for most of his TD runs 🤣 your argument doesn’t work cause lamar could do the same thing the difference is lamar is handing off to his rbs he’s not worried about stats as long as the team wins yall run allen more than your rbs anywhere from the 10 down

[@cheesecurldarl1700]

@ every team that gets into enemy territory by the goal line is usually because of the qb so idk where you was going with that lol it’s a reason lamar has like 700 more all around yards this season than allen

[@Lik-e8h]

@cheesecurldarl1700 now it doesn’t matter how he gets to the 1??? Stop moving the goalposts goofy. If QBs could get “10 yard” rushing tds so easily, why isn’t every QB doing it? Also, James cook leads the league in rushing TDs so this is a mute point anyways🤣

[@Lik-e8h]

@cheesecurldarl1700 he also, played some of the worst defenses in the entire league lmaooo. He played the bengals twice this year and that defense is historically bad💀

[@volcanicmax007]

Christian is a ravens fan?!

[@tylermartin6041]

Get this dude in the hat off sports analysis. Never heard a dumber human being in my life. Got caught on 5 different things and spins the argument to pretend he’s winning

[@christiankatt2122]

Bros in the small box for a reason

[@Kkkkk-egh]

Thank uuuuuuuu

[@davonhall9652]

Josh Allen is the MVP. Period. Stop with the excuses. And stop talking about week 4. We're literally going into week 16. Stop it! I promise you, if the Bills played the Ravens now, the game would look different than it did then. Also, who did the Ravens lose to after they beat the Bills? Stop it!

[@jackstone88]

I could have played for the lions defense 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@HasbullasBurner]

Bills are 3-3 against playoff teams this season Bmore is 5-2… Lamar leads in all QB stats. What does Josh have? More rushing TDs? Ooooooo wow who gives a fuck The caller saying Bmore ain’t lost pieces…. What the fuck. We lost 5 coaches, team president, and half our starting defense

[@dionwalker2667]

Who's record is the best between the ravens and the bills? I rest my case, the ravens are overrated.

[@RockyMtnHigh-y1j]

Once again, slowly for all you Lamar cultist dummies: It's the most valuable PLAYER. Not the most valuable PASSER.

[@alpharob6959]

Last year it wasn't bout stats now it is stop the bs

[@shawnokeefe1580]

Dude stats are not everything ... Allan is carrying his team

[@kendrickthomas1328]

Nah bro! Stats matter especially since Lamar leads in all except one which is running tds but if we considered that Jalen hurts got 14 and has a better record. Too many racist pricks dont wanna admit that they were wrong about Lamar

[@corneliusmoat9452]

Josh doesn't have a derrick henry, hell he dont even have a zay flowers and he beat the chiefs, and the lions

[@sfteevee8303]

Josh is MVP. He is more valuable.

[@sfteevee8303]

@AmenRaDarby you guys cannot win your division against Russel Wilson, lmao. Sounds like a skill issue.

[@sfteevee8303]

@@AmenRaDarby lmao. Buffalo would own that division.

[@sfteevee8303]

@AmenRaDarby the Ravens lost to the brown and raiders earlier in the season. If they played today buffalo would win by 14.

[@skylangford6083]

Both are valuable but if I could choose one I'd personally take Lamar but that's simply based on preference

[@orphy6869]

Just say the quiet part out loud….If Allen were black he’d be winning his 3rd MVP this year….Lamar has lost to the Raiders at home, Lamar has lost to Cleveland….Lamar comes up small in big games losing to KC and Pittsburgh….The Ravens aren’t even in first place in their division….Lamar has a couple hundred more yards than Allen because Allen has sat out of 2nd half of games where he actually blew out bad teams not lost to them…Allen just as many TD’s and less turnovers….its absolutely silly to the point that the only explanation is race at this point

[@nicklove3963]

🤣🤣🤣🤣reverse racism??? Stfu

[@iceman200018]

Dude stop Josh had all the better passing stats last year and the bills had the number 2 seed So by your logic josh world have gotten the mvp last year And when they played baltimore josh had nobody to throw the ball to And there stats josh and lamar where pretty much the same You sound stupid

[@moodurr13]

Ppl forget how Josh started last year... They were mediocre at best. They went on a run near the end. Josh had 50 TDs but like 25 turnovers. He was not even top 3 in the MVP voting last year. It was Lamar, CMC, Tyreek Hill, Brock Purdy, Dak Prescott, Josh Allen around that 3,4,5th spot. They don't even have the best record this year to lean on that, Patti Mahomes has that. Talking about Josh has no one when Lamar has never really had anyone... and Derrick Henry looking real average right now - Lamar almost out-rushed him last game on half the attempts....

[@travisbrand3135]

Josh Allen threw 18int last year.how was that MVP worthy?

[@axe2grind244]

Bet it then. You’re getting odds. You will eventually just be losing money but bet it anyways. He has zero chance because once again, he is not the most valuable player.

[@andrewdouesnard9206]

Lamar losing at home to the Raiders and lost to the Browns

[@Kkkkk-egh]

Sorry mvp 3

[@dionwalker2667]

The ravens couldn't get pass the bills in the playoffs

[@bloodontherazorwiretv]

Get rid of these clowns

[@khrisshultz2532]

Bro you smoking

[@grimlockthethrasher1]

Josh Allen is the Mvp and the best player in the league. He beat the best team in both conferences and clinched the division in week 13. You talk about how the lions are a different team from week 5 but you’re ignoring the fact that the bills are literally a different team from week 4. The traded for amari cooper which opened up more space for their receivers. And before you say he has help thats nothing compared to the ravens w derrick henry and zay flowers. Josh has accounted for 13 tds in the last 3 games alone. Lmfaoo then ur underselling the snow game just say you don’t like the dude😭

[@Ezekielbush8-n4u]

Yeah he did beat both the best teams in each conferencesbut he is 2-3 vs playoff teams. The best player in the League 😂😂 this year besides score 1 yard touchdowns what does he do better than Lamar? Completion percent, no, passing yards no, passing td no, qb rating no, rushing yards no, total yards no, total tds no, Wins yes, but Lamar loss 5 games by 22 points total where his kicker left 22 points off the board. But when they played head-to-head Lamar’s team beat Allen’s team by 25🤦🏿‍♂️.

[@kosportsfam]

Lamar beat him head to head, leads him in every category and is doing it with the worst pass defense in the league. Josh Allen’s MVP case over Lamar has been all recency bias. And Lamar and the ravens 7-2 against teams over 500. This year Allen has only beat 2 teams over 500. That lions team they just beat came into the game with 7 defensive starts out on IR.

[@adamaltvater1764]

The bills have the weakest division to play in

[@BuffaloBillsJP]

@@kosportsfam No they don’t have 7 wins over teams over 500 lol they have 5 which is only two more then Buffalo

[@BuffaloBillsJP]

@@adamaltvater1764 They have only played 3 games vs the division

[@edwardtorpey1943]

Allen is first in Qbr and team lost number 1 and 2 wr Lamar was bad vers eagles and Steelers

[@joshuarichardson5859]

Bro you tripping lamar jacksons numbers last year wasnt mvp worthy. Josh allens record is better this dude doesnt know football

[@kenobi_editz]

Last year doesn't matter bud. Clearly you're biased, given that pfp.

[@travisbrand3135]

Yall gotta stop bringing up last years stats lol.Josh Allen threw 18ints last season.Thats not MVP worthy.Thats more like Tony Romo

[@QUAN.410]

@@travisbrand3135exactly the man had over 20 turnovers

[@joshuarichardson5859]

@travisbrand3135 so what's the ravens record again because u don't get the mvp award losing 5 games

[@QUAN.410]

@ you don’t get it with a weak schedule either it’s a number of factors stats which Lamar lead in head to head which Lamar lead in strength of schedule which is why mvp voters said they gave it to him last year because he had a tough schedule and performed your record matters which Josh is leading in overall Josh isn’t beating Lamar especially only 2 games in front of him Allen these 2 games is the only thing keeping Allen in the conversation

[@ComedianMoeBrown]

Allen 36 total touchdown lamar 35 stop being black goofy

[@Ezekielbush8-n4u]

😆 get your facts right Lamar has 37 TD

[@BuffaloBillsJP]

@@Ezekielbush8-n4u Now do last year when Allen had 46 TDS and Jackson had 29

[@moodurr13]

@@BuffaloBillsJP with like 25 turnovers now do that math - don't matter the TD's you take from your running back at the 1 yd line if we know you're prone to give away/turnover 1-2 of your 3-4 TDs.

[@joemenrollins]

@BuffaloBillsJP With 26 turnovers!

[@adamaltvater1764]

Allen got a bunch of 1 yard TDs whoopty doo