Lameduke Showcase - Episode 1- Mrr Caliber (Duke Nukem 3D Prototype)

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@RaposaCadela Жыл бұрын

Duke Nukem 3D's development is extremely interesting, and nowadays we have more footage from the later and previous betas shared by the devs. From what I've heard they've got the files but can't legally publish them, however they show it off occasionally(Check out "Duke Nukem 3D - Pre-release Footage Compilation")! It's honestly quite inspiring to see, in a game-developer point of view. They all show the progression the team made learning as they went along, throwing things at the wall and seeing what stuck around, scrapping everything and re-starting many times, learning the Build Engine and its revolutionary potential, learning 3D modelling and rendering, experimenting with game, level, mechanic, character designs, themes, a little bit of everything. It's not easy making a game this good, and its history shows! Game development usually didn't take this long at the time. You can kinda see how the team behind this game couldn't handle making Duke Nukem Forever, under the stricter rules they had to follow. The way they worked, they needed to experiment, to learn, to focus, to refine, and with that costs trial and error, time, which they hadn't been given the luxury of, under pressure from staff above. DNF prototypes 2D/1996, Quake/1997, Quake 2/1998, Unreal/2001, were all inspired, creative, cool. DNF 2011 was made by people that had seen all that hard work thrown in the trash. That would break anyone.

@OxydedGaming 2 жыл бұрын

0:59 "Protozoid slimers will devour troopers." - Years of Duke Nukem 3D and I had absolutely no idea this could happen!

@revenantevil 2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you learned something from my video! Thanks for stopping by :)

@RaposaCadela Жыл бұрын

YEAH!!

@esta7763 Жыл бұрын

I didn't know that either. I never saw that happen since I started playing in the mid 1990's.

@Chaingun Жыл бұрын

could be mis-remembering, but I sorta remember them doing it to pigcops and enforcers in the psx version

@Kyezoar 11 ай бұрын

Considering I've only SEEN Lameduke via TCRF's page on it, I find this walkthrough/showcase very fascinating!

@adampagano5361 Жыл бұрын

I don't have a source but "Mrr Caliber" was supposed to be "Mr. Caliber". A bug in the engine caused the misprint

@revenantevil Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I've heard that in a couple of places now, so I'm definitely leaning towards it being some kind of bug. Mr. Caliber makes the most sense to me. Appreciate your comment :) Cheers

@lancebaylis3169 8 ай бұрын

5:19 The image on the monitor is, I think, a screen capture from a full motion video adventure game called Under A Killing Moon by Access Software. Quite why it was being used as a graphic by the designers of Duke Nukem 3D is anyone's guess.

@lepopcornnaisseur546 8 ай бұрын

The same guys who made Crime Wave? I can see some similarities between that and Lameduke.

@lancebaylis3169 6 ай бұрын

@lepopcornnaisseur546 Yeah that was Access Software. Under A Killing Moon was a big and popular title around the time Duke Nukem 3D was still in development, so my guess is that 3D Realms used this screen capture from it as a placeholder/wink to the game. The scene in question is from the end of the game, though the Duke texture crops it to just the woman in the scene haha

@revenantevil 6 ай бұрын

Also, in an early build of Duke 3D, they also used art ripped straight from Under A Kiling Moon's box as a sky box. They must have been quite fond of the game!

@VGamingJunkieVT 2 жыл бұрын

9:14 This looks somewhat similar to the experiment room, in Dark Side, in the final game. That one had a dead Pigcop on it, the only time you'll see them in the second episode.

@revenantevil 2 жыл бұрын

I did think that actually! The room with all the protozoid slimers in the vents? Really cool to see the idea survive until the final game. Good eye dude! Thanks for the comment.

@dreak-cz Жыл бұрын

You are doing absolutely great videos. I spent my whole childhood playing Duke. These videos are my blood type :) Thanks^^

@revenantevil Жыл бұрын

One of my favourite comments so far. I really appreciate it. Thanks mate. Got plenty more ideas for Duke videos, so stay tuned! :) Always bet on Duke! Cheers!

@Rokatanskii 2 жыл бұрын

We almost got another Tekwar, but the developers were smart enough to seriously redo the project and we got one of the best FPS of all time. In contrast to DN4ever, when the game, as far as one can tell from the leaked demo, was about as ready as LAMEDUKE. I think in Blood the Ghost Town level (the first one in Farewell to arms) was inspired by level 6. Wide street and tall buildings, just changed the textures. Thanks for another great video!

@revenantevil 2 жыл бұрын

Man, can you imagine if they just thought 'this will do' and released it as a finished Lameduke? So glad they nailed it. I get what you're saying about the DNF prototype, but honestly, I had way more fun with that honestly! As much as I love lameduke. It is totally lame. lol. You might be onto something with the Ghost Town level. I'll have to refresh my memory. Honestly, thanks a bunch for watching and commenting, it means a lot. :)

@RaposaCadela Жыл бұрын

I love TekWar for how raw it is but damn am I glad we've got Duke 3D, Blood, and Shadow Warrior as good as we did. They all went through major changes in development. TekWar actually also did, plenty of unused content in it and differences in the shareware demo, buuuuut it's still TekWar xD

@OpenMawProductions Жыл бұрын

More of this please! This is fantastic.

@teranokitty 2 жыл бұрын

I love these videos too! Your analysis and commentary is very charming!

@revenantevil 2 жыл бұрын

Aww thanks, that's a really nice thing to say :) I appreciate it.

@Thrackerzod8 Күн бұрын

I really like the aesthetics here, it feels way more dark and rusty around, really wish we had another similar fps around the time with the same ideia Duke Nukem had with the whole dark sci fi urban setting.

@SeriousBeats 2 жыл бұрын

LOVE THESE VIDEOS!

@revenantevil 2 жыл бұрын

I love you! :p

@revenantevil 2 жыл бұрын

...and thanks for the comment!!

@tolindaniel 3 ай бұрын

To be fair, in 1994 this would still have been GROUNDBREAKING in the corridor shooter genre, it feel liks Doom meets Blake Stone with much better verticality and a degree of extra interactivity. Boy, I'm so glad it had time to cook though.

@Reilsss Жыл бұрын

Hai, thank you for showing this, Love to see what it was and how the game became what we like. I'm still sad to this day that we lost the plasma rifle. My first exposure to it was actually in a Doom mod ha! Also this wide makes me dig up my memorys. I rember that preview screenshot in game magacines of obvious another beta version of Duke. Was a city like looking map in space or the moon. I belive that one still had the plasma rifle. Then again maybe it was a screenshot from this version of the game of one of the other episodes hard to tell. I never played lame duke. but its super facinating to see it. Hope you can show us one day the other remaing levels / episodes.

@revenantevil Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment my friend. I've decided to work on the next episode of Lameduke. Might take a little while, but rest assured, it's coming! Much love!

@root.9347 Жыл бұрын

17:08 The bit where duke has to climb to the top of the building to defeat a flying boss sounds similar to the DNF 2001's Stratosphere building concept

@revenantevil Жыл бұрын

You know, now that you mention it, you're absolutely right! They must have recycled the idea? Well noticed. :) ...and thanks for commenting, nice to have you here :)

@wolfxx7297 Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for your effort to show us those old Builds 🥰 BtW: Those Wall Textures at 7:43 are the same as on the Projector in the Cinema from the final Game 🤓 I´m looking forward to Part two ☺

@revenantevil Жыл бұрын

You've got a good eye! Well done on spotting that! Thanks for the comment :)

@wolfxx7297 Жыл бұрын

@@revenantevil sure! Thank you ✌😀✌ Best Wishes for your Channel 😊

@joshm7769 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video! Noticing no ramps are implemented yet. They really added those at the last moment.

@ShawnTheRazor Жыл бұрын

You do a really great job with these videos. I love seeing the prototype/early builds of games as I am a solo game developer myself. It's nice to see what it was like before they finalized and polished everything.

@revenantevil Жыл бұрын

Thanks man, I really appreciate it! I'm working on a follow up to this video so stay tuned for that :) Cheers!

@SnipE_mS 11 ай бұрын

I’d be very interested in hearing from some of the developers how they got from this to the masterpiece that is the final version of Duke Nukem. The release version is such a huge step up this version reminds me more of a capstone game.

@rapappathepepper3996 2 жыл бұрын

Well, the bubble does 1 thing, it gives you 100 points. Also, few little things just because why not, the sky texture from the last level, can be fixed with like, the original texture that it uses from the example Build engine game, which it also is used for episode 2. And so can the mandroids be fixed if you re-use the femanoid's AI for it. Quite excited for episode 2 video! and, i hope you mention that it is an early version of the original episode 1, and in an episode 3 video, you could maybe merge it with episode 4, because, the 4th episode is, like, more of a test episode really...

@deadstar2692 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome stuff, seriously! I love learning more about Duke's history and anything about the betas :) Tho I wonder, out of curiosity, why not using EDuke32 instead of the World Tour version of the game? It'd retain the original sprites for the medkits, for example. Is it because EDuke is a hassle to set up and to make videos with?

@revenantevil 2 жыл бұрын

It means a lot, thanks a bunch! I managed to get Eduke32 up and running so I'll be using that for all future videos.

@deadstar2692 2 жыл бұрын

@@revenantevil Cool :)

@johnedelmann6711 Жыл бұрын

There's a cheat one can use in this build: type in DNA (possibly an acronym for "Duke Nukem All) and you get full ammo, all weapons, and all items. Like DNSTUFF, but it works once a game I think, though I could be wrong. It could work once per level, but I forgot to try it.

@johnedelmann6711 Жыл бұрын

And another Lameduke cheat: DNW, possibly short for Duke Nukem Warp. You can go to any level in the episode, but some of that is buggy as certain levels for some episodes (namely the last levels in an episode) don't load and crash the game.

@revenantevil Жыл бұрын

You're a legend. I didn't know there were cheats for LD. Knowing those cheats would have helped when making these videos, haha. Bless you for actually checking out my other videos. I really appreciate it mate, thank you. :)

@johnedelmann6711 Жыл бұрын

@@revenantevil I just tried stuff to see what would work lol I'm not sure if anything else works though.

@johnedelmann6711 Жыл бұрын

@@revenantevil And you're welcome 🙂

@Razielchan666 Жыл бұрын

I always found lameduke fascinating. The final DN3D is a massively superior game, but I'd be lying if I said that some stuff from this version wasn't fun and charming in a way. I wish DN3D dabbled more into large open city levels like this, though I imagine they had to cut down on level size once sloped surfaces were added in, since these are a major resource hog. I wish they'd kept the multi-level elevators, just changed the control method. The safety shutter and escalator effects are available in the final game, just unused. The first one works just fine, lowering the sector ceiling once you shoot out the glass/force field underneath it. The escalator effect is even more glitchy since it doesn't carry you down smoothly like here, but kinda bumps you down step after step. The roof boss is interesting, since it's made of sectors and moves through the sectors making up the building itself. The first time I've seen something like that in a commercial build game was Ion Fury, i wonder if it's been achieved in the same way.

@revenantevil Жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to comment. I agree, lameduke definitely has its charms. In regards to the open levels, it would have been awesome. The engine is clearly capable, but as you say, I expect it all came down to performance. Agree about the elevators too. It would have been a nice feature. Perhaps they could have just had an 'up' button on one side and a 'down' button on the other. But, the way they work in the final is fine too. I wonder why they didn't use the safety shutters? It's really cool. I was pretty shocked to see it for the first time! The escalators could definitely use more work. Perhaps they were just too tricky to code, so they decided not to bother? Who knows. Interesting, though. And I didn't know they were left in the code for D3D. So, thanks for letting me know! :) The roof boss is crazy. It's cool to see that they were experimenting with this stuff. I'm having trouble remembering where we might see a similar effect in Ion Fury... where abouts is it, if you don't mind me asking? Great comment. You're clearly more knowledgeable than I am! Thanks again mate, cheers!

@boilingmanTV Жыл бұрын

I played this at some point but never managed to find my way through the levels so was just debugging through it mainly, well done for actually solving them! The bubble- is it possible this is the screen or visor for a space helmet or suit? The powerup would potentially allow duke to go on spacewalks; space existed as an environment in the final release, and could insta-kill duke soo.. there were space suits in the final release but never any powerups along those lines.. Exit rooms on the space station look like they resemble the HAL room from 2001 Space Odyssey; considering that 1968 space film is refd in the eventual Duke3d release, could it be an early reference? The music and also some of those explosion sprites, are indeed from ROTT. I always loved the proto Octo-brains, they looked way kooler conceptually than the release octos.

@tomasrivero6423 11 ай бұрын

I wonder what the hooks meant, the game definitely seemed much more horror influenced(Doom anyone?) than action, i also love how first episode is the space station and since the story took place immediatly after Duke Nukem 2

@tolindaniel 3 ай бұрын

I feel like Randy saw that boss fight and carried it with him until the BUNKR fight in Borderlands 2.

@wolfgangfrost8043 4 ай бұрын

3D Realms had an extremely slow and iterative development style even in the early 90s... WOW!!! I bet those kind of semi-inept and overly controlling tendencies served them well over time! Duke Nukem Forever coming out "When It's Done" was certainly a casualty of this bizarre management style.

@Gator159 Жыл бұрын

It just occurred to me, Duke 3D has more prototype builds available to the public then Doom does. Why is that? Did 3D Realms have a leak or something?

@SledgeNE Жыл бұрын

A remaster of Isle of the Dead (first person shooter) would be great.

@revenantevil Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure I'm familiar with that one. Worth checking out? Thanks for stopping by :)

@johnedelmann6711 Жыл бұрын

Maybe you can do more run-throughs of Lameduke with the cheats?

@revenantevil Жыл бұрын

I'll be making some more videos on Lameduke eventually and you'd better believe I will be using those cheats! Got a lot of videos I'm working on before then though. Mostly Duke related, haha. Thanks for the comment :)