Oh god how do they still remember all these formulas and solutions haha I forgot all of them the minute I finished my math exams
@petercua61583 жыл бұрын
You got that right.
@王紫衣3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!
@TurtleNeck_3 жыл бұрын
i forget them before and then when doing them i just randomly remembers them and do the questions and when the teacher gives the paper back and asks me to explain to the class i don’t remember anything i wrote lol
@yixiang79333 жыл бұрын
as you said
@thenzyne3 жыл бұрын
I think this is because maybe they study almost everyday? I think their childhood filled with cram schools and stuff, so they like carved the formulas hard into their brain LOL.
If these people can get around 700 even after 15 years without using them, then they could get almost full score if they were in high school for sure. It is certainly misleading using this score to represent Chinese students.
These people are not high school students. They have forgotten some stuff. Even then, the 670 average is a lot higher than the national average of 528 as you have claimed. This is more than 1 standard deviation from the mean, and almost 2 standard deviations. I would think this concludes that Chinese people are on average, good in SAT Maths, instead of looking at a fixed cut-off score of 700 and concluding that they are not that good.
The probably with SAT is that they mostly have multiple choice questions, which is different from math courses we take in school. Most formatives and summative in school are not based on multiple choice questions. More logical thinking and the ability to observe the pattern are needed.
Try the Singapore A levels H2 paper set in line with Cambridge, or Math papers from top junior colleges (E.g Hwachong) in Singapore. They'd be in for a treat.
@nx97943 жыл бұрын
The questions shown here actually feels easier than O levels emath…
@morris44903 жыл бұрын
Huh Math is decent for you all, but you guys’oral in English are lame. 😂
@消失之人3 жыл бұрын
emmm.....
@zhenduoyang4023 жыл бұрын
Fmath and H3 are much harder. H2 is really nothing lol like in Alevel 50% of the students can get A.
@TurtleNeck_2 жыл бұрын
@@morris4490 not really we can literally switch accents
I m a Singaporean Chinese n I hold a Bachelor Degree in Economics from University of London. My Gweilo lecturer has said “The Asians have done embarrassing well in the Maths paper”. Not surprising, I done A-Maths to 3 years of engineering mathematics b4: Calculus is fun, determinants vs matrices, conditional probabilities to Bayes Probabilities r mind intriguing. Hmmmmn ~ 🙌 I m 63, I still can remember C^2=A^2+B^2-2ABcosC, law of inertia, definition of Force, Principle of Flotation, Boyles/Charles Law n 3 principles of lever. I m just “grilled” in Maths,Science n English.
@contycheung37023 жыл бұрын
范老师身材真好!
@joeyouyang3 жыл бұрын
😂
@michaelcph05053 жыл бұрын
但係手好似唔係好啱比例?
@yixuan.chelsea3 жыл бұрын
SAT 根本不能跟中国高考相同并论,SAT 是考美国高中必须学的Algebra II 考(也就是最低要求)因为每个人的数学可以在不同程度,而中国大家学的都一样,难度自然而然可以比较高。而且现在大多数美国高中学生在高中都学到calculus,可是这个不概括在SAT 里面,只有AP 或 SAT II 考的到。
SAT MATH is a joke. 我们中学(北京)在我们12岁的时候给我们做过一次SAT MATH的卷子,做着玩,全班一小半都是满分……
@TurtleNeck_3 жыл бұрын
对啊 他们大多不是不懂 就是忘了 你把一些大学生 给他们做 比较准确
@Ker2883 жыл бұрын
Hey, chinese english is also a joke!
@wangyuning2853 жыл бұрын
@@Ker288 Thats because english is not important enough for Chinese students. 因为没用,所以懒得费时间学
@nangongyiyun3 жыл бұрын
@@Ker288 how about American's chinese?
@Ker2883 жыл бұрын
@@nangongyiyun hey man, think about it. Where is the best university located? MIT, Harvard and... By the way, ten years from now, the fucking communist university in china will still not be able to catch up. Communist!
Bruh I’m from a below average high school in Shanghai but our average SAT math score was 780+ from hundreds of students smh. This college exam is much easier than our midterms back in junior high ong 😂😂 stop playing with me with da 670 average lmao
@HuckleberryHim2 жыл бұрын
Why did y'all take that SAT in Shanghai? Also it can be deceptive, there's a reason the girl got a 780 and the guy a 700 even though they are both perfectly capable of 800. Very easy to make simple, stupid mistakes that end up being quite punishing. Here in the US middle schoolers do learn a good amount of algebra so it isn't tremendously different from our own harder middle school math tests tbh, but it depends on your exact school and whether you were in an honor's class or something
@yerong12232 жыл бұрын
@@HuckleberryHim taking SAT=applying for colleges in the US; No, even if you make stupid mistakes you won’t go all the way down to like 700. We are/were mature high schoolers, not kindergarteners. That’s why our average was 780+. You need to pay extra attention on your basic math fundamentals if you really score below that. There are indeed many good local students that do really/extremely well in terms of math or STEM. But in general, as I’ve been teaching in a US top4 STEM university, and a good amount of the local students do not have good fundamentals in math and sciences, which is barely the case among international students (especially Chinese high school graduates imo). Not trying to belittle anyone, as local students outperforms us in many other aspects. But just for this specific topic, it is just the case.
@HuckleberryHim2 жыл бұрын
@@yerong1223 You absolutely will, that's why the guy in the video, who is Chinese and was educated in China (and just graduated from a prestigious university (not high school) last year, and got a 130+ on the GaoKao.......), scored 700. I was a year out of HS when I took it and I thought I got 100% on the math because it was easy but I got a 730. I have no idea what I got wrong but it's those slight things you overlook that get you, the weird grading system makes it incredibly easy to lose points from 800. It could be that attention to detail is more drilled into the average Chinese student via the education system of China (although I don't know if every single Chinese kid gets that same education, though I know it's a lot). But that really isn't a great indicator of mathematical ability. It is of course very important not to make mistakes when solving problems or writing proofs etc, but it feels less reflective of overall acumen than actually understanding the concepts, the logic, and executing the right steps (which is why partial credit is a thing). Of course Chinese students far outperform American students in math. No one can debate that. It is just a matter of educational policy and priorities though, Americans could do the same if this country started to value these things more.
@yerong12232 жыл бұрын
@@HuckleberryHim I don’t know any friend who made mistakes and got below 780 tbh. I made mistakes too, but we all got 790-800 since there’s a tolerance in grading system that allows you make small mistakes occasionally and still score 800. I have absolutely no idea what the guy in the video was doing, may just be an exception lmao. I don’t think its because we care more on the details-it is just too easy to make mistake honestly. Only mistake I can imagine is to get confused with some wordings, I guess? The fundamentals we’ve been practicing about the concepts, the logics, the methodologies, and etc. just allow us to not making mistakes. If you would like to experience what I meant, feel free to look up a GaoKao test and try it - it is another world. I do agree on the education system part, and that is also why institutions in the US are attracting an overwhelming amount of scholars from all over the world.
没有一直盯着字幕,偶尔看到的字幕发现两个小错,一个是数学术语翻译,此复数非彼复数,it's complex rather than plural,一个是8x=16(英文字幕打成了26),再一个考题里面,i应该是√-1,以及那位拒绝计算器却算错数的男同学,那就是二元一次方程组,不是鸡兔同笼啊喂,最后建议再做一个企划,找初高中在读生来做,尤其初中要是600+就很有意思了
I got 710 in math the first time taking SAT with zero preparation. I had Singapore education. My English was only 420 though.
@yzhang20088 ай бұрын
6:22 Are you sure this is the SAT level? For most of the problems, I can just calculate in mind without using pen and paper. For example, the P36, this is just the problem of calculating the root for Y**2 + 4Y + 4 = 0. So Y is -2, and then x is 3.
Hey Laoma Chris, I couldn't help but notice that the SAT Math in this video was translated into Chinese. While it might make it easier for Chinese speakers, I can understand why some people might question the fairness of that. It's important to ensure a level playing field for all test takers. What are your thoughts on this? #FairnessMatters
@AFFROBO10 ай бұрын
He translated the Chinese questions to English as well why aren’t you questioning that?
@sanjose423910 ай бұрын
@@AFFROBO lol, I am actually a Taiwanese-American, btw, and I can do math questions in both English and Chinese.🤓🤓
@sanjose423910 ай бұрын
@@AFFROBO Also, I remember in my junior year, I went to Mainland China and scored 103/150 on the Chinese College Entrance Exam(GaoKao) in the Math Section, you know? Why do you question me like that?🤔🤔🤨🤨
@AFFROBO10 ай бұрын
@@sanjose4239 Wow you would make a great politician, said a bunch of non sense and didn't even answer my question. Btw 103 on gaokao for math section Is very pathetic, it's like saying you scored 600/800 on math section of SAT and bragging about it 🤣
@sanjose423910 ай бұрын
I mean, especially for y'all native Americans.
@zoeyli32413 жыл бұрын
下次试试GRE数学
@lawrencezhang38993 жыл бұрын
考过,也挺简单的
@alexp20193 жыл бұрын
@@lawrencezhang3899 gmat 和 gre 哪个更难啊
@johnbrown406393 жыл бұрын
GRE math is also middle school level math in China.
@nefertari_Kaneko3 жыл бұрын
特简单
@lawrencezhang38993 жыл бұрын
@@alexp2019 都很简单
@shiroclown61312 жыл бұрын
Please let them try the SAT Math subject tests. It should be harder. I wonder how hard it is compared to the 高考.
@mark812911 ай бұрын
SAT math easier, SAT multiple choice type, you can guess, but Chinese one need to write down solution, explain how to
@hyeung110 ай бұрын
I remember getting similar scores of around 750 on both without any preparation. So no, it's not harder.