LAPD Legend Tom Lange: Behind The OJ Simpson Saga {Exclusive]

Tom Lange is the most celebrated LAPD detective of all time and shares details of evidence ignored in the OJ Simpson trial, what he told OJ during the Bronco chase, and what happened when he and his partners saw at the crime scene and when they knocked on Kato Kaelin's guest house door.
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[@TZScandal]

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[@Augfordpdoggie]

I was such a huge Rams fan as a little kid, born in 73, my soccer number was 85

[@1735tjw]

Why do we suppose the Ford Bronco was parked on one side of the gate and OJ goes behind the pool house, a narrow sidewalk area? It seems like a long way around for a guy in a hurry? Anyone with any ideas or suppositions??

[@johnfranklin8319]

The prosecution could have had video of OJ committing the crime and that jury would not have convicted him.

[@BobbieFL]

Yep . The defense were such seasoned attorneys rheu would have found a way to get it thrown out for some weird technical reason or say it was some outlandish fake or something .😮

[@shwnbur77]

Yeah at least one of them said that

[@Romulan2469]

True. That jury was biased from the get go. Gil Garcetti made a huge mistake trying this case in downtown LA when it should have been tried in Brentwood where the crime occurred.

[@christoo5125]

They wouldn't need a trial or a jury if they had him doing it on video😂

[@B-ch6uk]

@@christoo5125 Not sure about that. The defense would have said it wasn't him.

[@nicholasjanke3476]

Simpson could have taken the witness stand, and said "I DID IT!" and the jury and Cochran would have said:"NO you didn't! No you didn't!"

[@ReturnOfTheJ.D.]

He actually was very willing to take the stand but his lawyers forbade him from it, because historically it doesn't pan out well for the vast majority of defendants. Looking back however that doesn't do much for the image of OJ as guilty. Most guilty defendants wouldn't want to go near the witness stand.

[@Boxman2.0]

He got absolutely destroyed by Daniel Petrocelli when he took the stand in the civil trial. That’s what’s interesting; according to biographer Lawrence Schiller, Cochran and Bailey were willing to let him take the stand in the criminal trial (and Bailey actively encouraging the idea), but it was Shapiro who was dead set against it. Based on his own performance, if he had taken the stand in the criminal trial, he would have been convicted. Even with that jury, the best he could have hoped for is a hung jury, and a retrial with photographic evidence of the Bruno Magli’s (which didn’t surface until later) would have been it for him.

[@stephenannese8228]

Host should just keep fkkn quiet and let the retired detective TALK..!

[@tommythevenot7617]

Almost any podcast I watch, the god damn host cannot shut their mouth and let the guest talk! It’s unbelievable. They just can’t shut up. Adam Carolla included. The one podcaster I know that truly knows how to conduct an interview and lets his guests speak is Rick Beato.

[@BenPat88]

@@tommythevenot7617like him or not Joe Rogan can be a great interviewer if he’s interested in the topic and knowledgeable about it. He doesn’t do as well when he has strong opinions about it, but lots of stuff he just asks logical questions and listens. I agree that many podcast hosts are terrible interviewers and it’s so damn frustrating!!!

[@Romulan2469]

@@BenPat88 I like Joe Rogan and I find myself agreeing with a lot of what he says even when he interrupts. Whatever he says it's logical and sound.

[@fellspoint9364]

Carny level con man

[@brandih9802]

lol he literally talked the whoooole time.

[@johnfranklin8319]

Please guys, stop interrupting your guest.

[@apebitmusic83]

Ummm, he is kinda going on and on though

[@Romulan2469]

I don't know why people are making such a big issue out of interruptions! There aren't that many IMO, and we can't let the guests go on forever, and as you know, Tom Lange likes to talk! 😅

[@apebitmusic83]

@@Romulan2469 yes, it’s called an interview. Some people think you should just let your guest go on and on and onnnn. Haha

[@Saybleu]

I agree, but not everybody can be as good as Joe Rogan at this. Shannon Sharp is the worst. He won’t shut his f******* mouth..

[@Ms.Andrist]

AGAIN...please let your guests talk. You EVEN interrupted him answering a question tonight. We are here to see your guests...NOT YOU.

[@AndyPanda3]

I knowww. Speaking of narcissism. The host! (not KK) I try to fast forward thru him talking about himself. It’s hard to do.

[@ThomasELeClair]

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the interviewer is too hyper,,,,,,,,,,,,not Kato................

[@rebeccafarmer6533]

I know! Kato is very polite and the other host just bulldozes people.

[@sherylbeamer7189]

Agree, just subscribed but almost ready to unsubscribe. Wow. Does Kate have his own interview show?

[@BillCollins0707]

😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

[@Romulan2469]

The Tom Lange interviews are great! I hope to see more interviews with Lange, he's always full of interesting stories to tell.

[@billtmarchi4320]

A narcissist calling oj a narcissist..

Well, he's full of something alright

[@Romulan2469]

@@billtmarchi4320 Are you saying Lange is a narcissist? I think there is a touch of narcissism in everyone, just varying levels of it. Lange's narcissism is less than the likes of OJ.

[@dks13827]

no, he is a liar. on Larry King he said nothing about who did it.

[@sophial.2438]

Marcia Clarke botched this case. Not to use the woman who saw the Bronco leave the scene?? Agreeing to a jury of 75% black people who wanted revenge for something completely unrelated??? What an incompetence!!

[@Saybleu]

I cannot believe Kato is 65 years old. He looks awesome.

[@NoMoreBsPlease]

25:50 Look up "Robert Kardashian Where's the bag?" When OJ gets back from Chicago he had two bags. He gave one to his assistant and held on to the other one. His assistant went over to Rob and set the bag on the ground at their feet. She and Rob embrace and something is whispered between them and he slowly picks up OJ's bag. After a few minutes Rob makes a quick walk to his car, puts the bag in his trunk and it's NEVER seen again and Rob becomes his lawyer to hide behind lawyer client confidentiality, even though that doesn't apply to hiding or destroying evidence of MURDER!

[@damohirst1909]

what about the small knackpack that oj took with him (there were 3 bags) and he stressed for kato not to touch?

[@traysoninnovations]

That bag is with the Kardashians in the closet, they discussed it on one of the episodes of the Kardashians

[@NoMoreBsPlease]

@@damohirst1909 That was BEFORE he left for Chicago. Personally, I think he ditched the knife in Chicago, but returned with the clothes or shoes or the bag had blood in it from transporting the bloody knife and clothes. I think the knapsack with the knife was disposed of in Chicago and Robert held the bag until OJ could deal with it.

[@NoMoreBsPlease]

@@traysoninnovations If you actually believe that’s the real bag and not a replica bought for ratings, I have a bridge to sell that you’d definitely be interested in…

[@NoMoreBsPlease]

@@traysoninnovations The cops questioned Robert, and an empty bag was turned into evidence. The questions are was it tested for blood evidence and how do they know it’s the same bag from the night of the killings? I think Robert bought an identical bag to turn into evidence. Another question, where’s the bag now?

[@laraoneal7284]

So appreciate Tom Lange . He’s a man of integrity for sure. Daryl Gates was a man of integrity also. TY TOM LANGE FOR UR AMAZING SERVICE.

[@ellebelle4094]

Don't interrupt each other, please. I can hear only one at a time and speaking over each other means I can't hear either one.

[@Romulan2469]

Agreed, way too many interruptions here.

[@MrDuds1984]

I’m stunned if OJ had placed something in the garbage at the airport before he left for Chicago and there were witnesses to it, that they were never able to locate it.

[@popcornjoe3752]

Really? They hauled it off to the one of 2 landfills. Imagine trying to find a knife in a landfill in California

[@toastyinva]

@@popcornjoe3752 and it was 9 months later when Lange met the witness

[@brenda8837]

Someone on trial should NOT be allowed to “wave” at the jury and them wave at them. That’s manipulating the jury in favor of the accused and it’s certainly blatantly obvious that members of the jury is biased and have already determined that that accused person is innocent.

[@jhuranim]

or that they like him if not determined he is "not guilty". I agree.

[@sunshineproductions4122]

If One cannot INTIMIDATE a juror, One cannot INFLUENCE a juror

[@kassierobinson636]

Marcia botched that prosecution. I know she had a lot stacked against her but man she really screwed up.

[@rapman5791]

It wouldn’t have mattered if she screwed up or not. There have been several jurors who have come out since, they said OJ was going home no matter who the prosecutor was. It was payback for the Rodney King affair.

[@Romulan2469]

@@rapman5791 Agreed, that jury was a lost cause, but I still can't forgive Marcia for such a poor effort at the trial. She really screwed up big time. I would have had more respect for her if she had listened to the advice given to her instead of being so stubborn. Vincent Bugliosi should have led that prosecution team and not those amateurs Darden and Clark.

[@josephprolizo701]

@@Romulan2469 Firstly it was Bill Hodgeman who was the lead before he got ill. secondly it was Darden who made the biggest blunder putting key evidence into Simpsons hands so he could manipulate those gloves as he wished

[@Romulan2469]

@@josephprolizo701 The jury is the main reason OJ walked free, despite the blunders from the prosecution. It was pay back for Rodney King.

[@chrissyellem7397]

She screwed up because she was used to prosecuting battered women cases. She took that track with this case and that was totally wrong. The jury was mostly black and a black man was on trial. Many AA women are used to violence. It was "no big deal" to them that Nicole got beat up. Marcia didn't understand cultural differences.

[@j.j.guerrieri5257]

It’s extremely difficult to have an impartial jury in cases like this. We know now from the juror who was interviewed following OJ’s death that she and other jurors knew they would find him not guilty in retaliation to the King beating. That has to be infuriating to the investigators and prosecution to hear that after all the work they put in and the case that they presented that the verdict was predetermined

[@Romulan2469]

It's such a shame that Phil Vannatter has passed away as he also would have given such great interviews on the OJ Simpson case as well. Maybe you could even get Mark Fuhrman on your show?

[@WardenJune]

Yeah, get Mark Fuhrman, the reason OJ walked.

[@Romulan2469]

@@WardenJune I agree, it's pretty much the most important person still to be interviewed.

[@Romulan2469]

@@WardenJune I got 2 questions for Fuhrman: 1. Why plead the 5th 2. Why put you saw a bloody fingerprint on the back gate in your notebook and not bother to tell anyone to preserve that fingerprint

[@pammeadows1311]

Van after put blood with Edta on socks..planted for sure since edta is anticipated bottom.of bacutainer lab tubes..so it had to come from a vial.

[@Romulan2469]

@@pammeadows1311 Stop spreading lies and false information.

[@elindemier]

The prosecution should have focused on all the favourable treatment OJ got from the police. Show how he left the black community behind. Needed to drive a wedge between oj and the jury

[@BenPat88]

I don’t think it would be possible, maybe if they had a black prosecutor but there was just no way that jury was saying guilty with the circumstances, just no way.

[@l.cruces2223]

So basically that OJ was Carlton's Dad.

[@cjjohn6445]

That is an EXCELLENT point!!!!! And very true. He left the African American community behind long before the murders & trial.

[@randyharris3175]

If only they could have had Vincent Bugliosi to prosecute this case. Though this jury had their mind made up.

[@jhuranim]

Vincent was amazing. He would have lost. The moment Rodney King's police officers were acquitted causing the riots, and Fuhrman (with racist tapes in the world from 1985) found the glove at Rockingham, this was case absolutely over. Full Acquittal either way.

[@Lorri-dr4ft]

Tom is awesome! Great to hear that voice again.

[@mbronson2466]

Not to split hairs but one could argue the most famous LA detective was Frank Salerno who worked Hillside Strangler and The Nightstalker. Great show as always guys! I love when you have Tom Lange on!!

[@DebbieZoppina]

The Hillside Strangler was the case that petrified me the most. I lived and traveled in areas and was so afraid to go out of the house especially at night. Women were even scared to answer their doors. Those times were horrific.

[@b.maxwell5037]

Kato has a pleasant voice.

[@todd3205]

Didn't the police find a dome light bulb removed by O.J. from the Bronco [so nobody would see when he got out in the alley] with blood on it?

[@donniebeadles7842]

Yes

[@DimJongUn]

I heard the light, yes. They found it after they removed the seat if I remember right. Never heard about blood on it, but I could be wrong. Really interesting point to be the case.

[@jhuranim]

He could have just shut off the switch for that light instead of removing the bulb imo

[@patriciagazey4693]

Yes

[@UghDroppingLoads]

Ford broncos and F150s back then were notorious for dome light switches not working properly. There are actually forums online about it. Sometimes they’d stay off, sometime just the footwell lights would stay off and the dome would stay on.

[@Romulan2469]

9:23 Who knew Kato was this funny? 🤣🤣

[@KeepMeLord05]

Kato Kaelin takes the good times with him wherever he goes.. Having a decently good time is so rare..

[@Romulan2469]

Kato is a great guy, and he brings that positive energy with him. He's been through a lot of tragedy in his life and it's amazing how successful and likeable he has remained over the years. It speaks volumes about Kato's good character.

[@Romulan2469]

Wow I love Tom Zenner Scandal! I have to go back and watch all the Tom Lange videos, what a great guy! Hope you keep bringing him back Tom Z!

[@TZScandal]

Thank you! I will have him on again to talk about serial murder cases he worked on!

[@Romulan2469]

@@TZScandal Awesome news Tom Z! I’m looking forward to seeing you talk with Tom L about serial killer cases. Can’t wait to see your next show! 👍

[@bellestar777]

If the cops who beat Rodney King were found guilty I believe OJ would have been also. You have jurors who said it was payback and the guy Ron said he feels he made the wrong decision.

[@TZScandal]

Good comment,,, thank you! T.Z.

[@B-ch6uk]

I don't know how they sleep at night

[@kourtneycheatum3425]

They sure did say it. They wanted payback. They hated the LAPD. They wanted to make someone pay and it’s sad it had to be this case to make an “example” out of the LAPD.

[@lovablevietboy]

Nah, Blacks always want more and more. They will never stop

[@Romulan2469]

I don't agree. The racism ran deeper than Rodney King and this guy would still have been found not guilty. It was a black man on trial and they were going to set him free at any cost. On top of that, the prosecution were terrible and if you have watched the full documentary with Vincent Bugliosi you would know what I mean by terrible.

[@willfade7994]

Thanks to Tom Lange for his work on the Hillside Stranglers case. My mother’s friend was one of the victims. Her name was Lauren Wagner. My Mom and her went to high school together, but Lauren was a year older… They were both living in Sepulveda when Lauren was kidnapped right in front of her house which was walking distance to my Mom’s house at the time. My Mom still doesn’t like to talk about it and what happened to Lauren. I’d love to talk with Tom about it all. I used to want to be a Criminal Psychologist and have always had an interest in these types of cases, how they’re investigated, etc. Someone needs to make a movie about Tom, if they haven’t already.

[@ArleneGladuZNZ]

The fact that OJ killed Nicole and Ron is horrifying enough but the fact that he can go about his life golfing and having a great time knowing he butchered them both until they died is really beyond belief and completely mystifying to me.

[@lunabee9606]

This case was riddled with bad decisions, Furhman, and a race thing. It was doomed. It shocked the country to see how pathetic the judicial system is in this country!!

[@DarlaAnne]

I agree. Everyone's always talking about OJ getting away with murder. He probably did, but the case was so botched there was reasonable doubt just due to Furhman's lack ok integrity alone.

[@DebbieZoppina]

Tom Lange is the best. 👍🏻

[@janetsmith8566]

6 minutes in and still waiting to see the guest?? 🙄🙄🙄

[@ellebelle4094]

I read Evidence dismissed recently. It answered a Q about sharing evidence with the defense. The defense did get their portion of blood, etc. Then we never heard that it was tested or not, and what results they got. In a short Englert blog, he said the hair in the cap matched OJ. What are those details? Back then, you could only tell if the hair was consistent, but couldn't say it was a match. Today, hair can be tested for mitochondrial (mother's) DNA. Was that ever done with the hair in the cap and was it the same DNA as hair taken from OJ's head?

[@Romulan2469]

Those are good questions. I highly doubt that any mitochondrial DNA testing has or is being done with the hairs on the knit cap as the LAPD and the DA's office don't want to revisit this case. Also even if they did, OJ's not guilty verdict would prevent them from doing any DNA testing to try and match it to OJ's hair and that would be practically impossible if they did as with mitochondrial DNA the test can never exclusively point to one person. Englert must have made a mistake in choosing the word matched as at the time there was no hair roots in the knit cap to make a positive match to OJ. He should have said the hair was consistent with an African American.

[@ellebelle4094]

@@Romulan2469 Yes, I wondered at the choice of words. But sometimes tests are done but never spoken of. OJ defense team got samples of all the evidence. I think they are supposed to get half. They can do their own testing. I read in Evidence Dismissed that the defense did get their samples, but we never heard another word. Did they test it? We'll likely never know.

[@erickleefeld4883]

With the LAPD on trial in the case, the prosecution should’ve tried a different tack: Acknowledging that the police and the criminal justice system had gone EASY on OJ Simpson for years, coddling him through all the years of abuse because he was rich, famous, and well connected. It was the exact opposite of persecution or a grand conspiracy to frame him for a crime he didn’t commit, with the evidence so clear that it overrode all the system’s failures and usual inclination to treat OJ with kid gloves. The jury was skeptical of the LAPD because of years of genuine abuses, which all got confirmed for them by Fuhrman’s scandals and his pleading the 5th. The argument above would’ve helped to show that OJ lived in a completely different world from them, and that the cops and the legal system had been on his side instead of Nicole’s until he finally did the worst thing.

[@bevconklin5172]

Yes, more episodes with Tom other stories

[@annab.2086]

Bring Paula Barbieri please!!! We want to hear from the women who were dating him and what they were thinking/going through.

[@baalbezub6848]

Ever ask yourself why Paula, after breaking up with OJ, was by his side throughout the whole trial, but then dumped him again when it was over?? Another person who knows WAY more than they will admit.

[@shwnbur77]

The reason they did not use the woman Jill seeing him in Bronco is because.. 1- National Enquirer story. 2- conflicted with prosecution timeline. 3- She said she saw him at same time Kato heard knocks

[@bradlott3284]

Listening to Tom Lange is like getting a masters degree in Homicide Investigation

[@ellebelle4094]

Where is this show/podcast/whatever??? of Lange, Kaelin and Englert? Please don't reference pieces done at some time without giving a way to find it. It's, well, MEAN.

[@K21965]

Wasn’t it AC and the 911 operator that we heard live during the Bronco chase? I remember AC talking about OJ and the gun.

[@EricGoldstein-m6g]

Thanks Detective Lange for your service to many families that had no voice for their families loved ones who were killed. Please stay healthy god bless you and your family. Take care.

[@Don-ji9ro]

You guys are awesome! Love your shows!

[@TZScandal]

Thanks for the comment. T.Z. Limo Driver Allan Park on the episode today. Subscribe to .www.youtube.com/@TZScandal

[@rapman5791]

The live broadcast was with AC, not OJ. AC had called 911 as the police were chasing the Bronco. That’s what people heard, not the conversation between OJ & Lange. Both OJ & AC had cell phones.

[@kerryflatt5391]

While time has blurred the memory and mood of his testimony, as someone who watched every minute of the trial it was CRYSTAL CLEAR that Kato was doing his best to protect OJ. Maybe no one else remembers, but I (and Clark and Darden) remember. He would have been homeless without OJ's help and he was keenly aware of that. After the smoke cleared and he was lambasted by the media and the public he saw that his actions during his testimony backfired against his carefully planned image, only THEN did he start creating the image that he was trying to help the prosecution and they screwed up. It's truly a shame that so many people are falling for the publicity spin this coward has created and that he feels guilt. Some of us remember Kato.

[@StellaAdler_]

I remember that as well.

[@Chicagocubbiegirl]

Me too.

[@christinepedersen5511]

Kato appeared idiotic. The jury said the same thing. It is sad if he did purposely protect OJ.

[@EricGoldstein-m6g]

Me too he was a horrible witness for the prosecution. Now he’s taking advantage of the OJ case oh well. I don’t hate Kato.

[@donnacobb4027]

I think Marcia really dropped the ball

[@lovetraveler1]

I think you guys should try and have Alan Dershowitz on so he can talk about the EDT that was in the blood and the transfer through the sock

[@Justicejusticejusticejustice27]

Nah. There is edta in our food. That was irrelevant and only ignorant jurors would say anything else

[@babygeesus]

I definitely think OJ had something to do with it. My last question: Why did Mark Furman plead the 5th when asked if he planted evidence?

[@MrDuds1984]

Because he testified originally that he never used the N word, months later they discovered tapes for a screen play he was doing which he said the N word. They recalled him and asked him he if was telling the truth if he ever used the N word, he pleaded the 5th, next question was did you plant evidence in this case, he had to plead the 5th as if he didn’t he was ripe for cross examination. Meaning if he pleaded the 5th to one question he had to plead the 5th to every question. He was boxed in, great defense move.

[@Steven-pi2lp]

The Bronco chase conversation with Officer Lange and OJ for all this 30 yrs I sure thought that it was Live.

[@anthonyd6370]

host never let guest finish ,ever watch a parade the camera is on them more than the parade

[@VelveteenRabbitinRedFern]

I wonder how Tom Lange feels about Mark Fuhrman. Are they in touch, friends, upset at him for his "racist" comments years ago???

[@ajgreen868]

How did they not have oj on security camera at the airport?

[@TZScandal]

Be incredible if they did,,, we'd see a guilty man... Thanks for the comment... appreciate it.. Tom Zenner

[@hdp007]

There were security videos of him at the airport. The defense detective reviewed all of the footage along with LAPD.

[@SilverSwag56]

That’s what I thought, I know they had them 💀🤮 idiot prosecutors

[@firedawg2240]

Time stamps on KZbin should be law

[@AlwaysClutch_]

I remember on KZbin many years back hearing what I believe was the entire call that OJ and Tom had while he was in the bronco. Was it removed? I can’t find it

[@StellaAdler_]

Many many videos were deleted off of here & google during covid - there’s about 50 videos about important subject matters that were scrubbed. Now I use Bit Chute - u need to do a lil digging, but u find what u need.

[@judithmorganjudyteen]

Its a fine line.interviewers know that they have many questions that won't be answered if guest talks for too long on one answer

[@dggd]

Superb show. So much we DIDN’T know.

[@Romulan2469]

Agreed, we're learning so much more from this case and it never seems to end. Tom Lange is a great source of information!

[@ypaulbrown]

Love your channel Tom and Kato

[@michellemarchiano9878]

Luv Kato's shirt!!! ❤❤❤

[@GiovannaIamele]

It looks like Kato wants to follow O J's footsteps he even play golf now!

[@gcrichman53]

Marcia Clark is very intelligent and she was a great prosecutor and she won tons of murder cases and she said that they had enough evidence of OJ's guilt to convict him 20 times over. The first jury in the criminal trial was very stupid and very biased so sadly all that strong evidence never even mattered. Thankfully the jury in the civil court trial were really very sensible and very responsible and found him responsible and guilty for the brutal insane murders of poor Nicole and Ronald. And unlike in the criminal trial OJ didn't have to testify but he did in the civil trial and he blatantly repeatedly lied and contradicted himself.

[@TZScandal]

Thanks for the comment. T.Z. Limo Driver Allan Park on the episode today. Subscribe to .www.youtube.com/@TZScandal

[@gcrichman53]

On KZbin there is an excellent powerful 2 part video series by the excellent former prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi called OJ Simpson Absolutely 100% Guilty and he also wrote the great 1995 book Outrage The Five Reasons Why OJ Simpson Got Away With Murder.

[@Celticsaint777]

Great podcast!!!!!!!!

[@elainejohnson6955]

Starts at about 7:43

[@americangirl4410]

Please get Mark F on the show

[@gcrichman53]

Behind closed doors OJ was a horrible very sick very violent woman-hating domestic abuser. Besides the very frightened 911 call by Nicole in October 1993 and you can clearly hear OJ screaming in the backround and he broke her door down, and the pictures of the injuries he caused Nicole taken by her oldest picture Denise, in 1989 when she called the police after he beat her up badly again, she was outside at night covered in mud only wearing a bra and sweat pants and she said several times that he was going to kill her. And she called the police about his violent abuse of her 8 different times but sadly the police never really did much about it and one time he beat her so badly she had to be hospitalized. Nicole also explained in her written diaries, that one time OJ beat her up and then locked her in a wine closet while he watched TV as she begged him to let her out. Other times he threw her against walls and floors, hit her during sex, and beat her for hours as she crawled on the floor. She even told some of the people close to her that she was afraid that he was going to kill her. And just 5 days before OJ did brutally insanely kill Nicole and Ronald, she called a domestic violence center and told the director that OJ was stalking her everywhere she went and that she was really afraid that he was going to kill her. And many violent abusive boyfriends and husbands do eventually do kill their girlfriends and wives,f ormer great prosecutor Marcia Clarke said they had enough evidence to convict OJ 20 times over and former detective Tom Lange said the same things and he said people have been put to death with much less evidence and others on this horrible case said similar things. It was a unfortunately a really stupid, really biased jury and some of those jury members have since admitted that they thought he could have been guilty but they voted not guilty to make up for racist injustices by the police like Rodney King etc. At least thankfully the jury in the civil trial were very sensible and very responsible and very rightly found OJ guilty and responsible for these two brutal insane murders of poor Nicole and Ronald. And unlike in the criminal trial, OJ had to testify and he blatantly lied and contradicted himself repeatedly..

[@baalbezub6848]

The only proven example of OJ physically abusing Nicole was the 1989 incident. After that, it NEVER happened again. The “infamous” 1993 911 call was WAY overblown, and if you listen to an unedited version, you actually hear what OJ was so pissed off about. All the rest of this was never proven, hearsay, and fabrication in attempts for Nicole to redo her divorce settlement that she regretted. And btw……the Domestic Abuse expert brought in never testified because she concluded OJ DID NOT fit the pattern of an abuser who eventually kills. 💯

[@Mo_Ketchups]

This guy on the left is _exhausting!_ Feel like *I* was forced to run a marathon! 🤦‍♂️

[@jhuranim]

Tom Lange is a true professional and was without a doubt an amazing detective but in the "Made in America" documentary and here again in the interview with you he once again cannot figure out why Mark Fuhrman took the 5th on all of the questions instead of picking and choosing. You do not have a choice if you plead the Fifth! You have to answer that for all of the questions or none of them. You do not get to pick and choose which questions you can answer differently. Nearly 30 years later but Mr. Lange still does not know this.

[@lunabee9606]

I want to know why they think the glove was behind Kato’s room and why the thumping sounds? Why would OJ go behind there and leave the glove?

[@consciousmachine413]

Theory is OJ ran behind his bungaloo, didn't see the A/C units and ran into it.... dropping the glove. THIS DID NOT HAPPEN.... FURMAN PLANTED THE GLOVE AND ALL BLOOD DROPS. 100%

[@loki2stunt]

Cause furhman planted it there....goofy Kato gave him the idea

[@rapman5791]

Darryl Gates was one of the best Chiefs in the history of LAPD. 👮‍♂️🚓

[@Will-nb8qk]

1:35 Kato still misses the point sometimes 😂

[@JamesYates-xk2pq]

Hey Tom why don’t you talk about the other set of footprints and the other hat found in the bronco?

[@emmarita487]

Was there not surveillance camera footage of the exit/ entry at LAX? If so what happened to it?

[@sharontolbert1112]

I think it’s incredibly naive for him to say Marsha Clark is more to blame than Gil Garcetti. Everything comes down to politics, especially when it involves a hot mess like using the racist card to justify a savage double murder.

[@kellyrob4296]

His - Tom Lange’s - book isn’t linked…. thought ya said it would be. Maybe Kato said it but ima gonna go find the part where the name of it is stated…..☹️

[@bevconklin5172]

I never heard How they think it happened…..was she outside when he showed up, did he coax her down? Was Ron there-did he show up while OJ was there? I can’t recall. I know they said they were able to recreate what happened and it was quickly-the only good thing to know, it was fast.

[@baalbezub6848]

And you never will. The official explanation by the Prosecution was ludicrous. OJ paid to have them killed, and then was double-crossed in the process.

[@2K9s]

1:57 … can you please define the term?

[@bevconklin5172]

I thought it was live too, but we may have just seen footage so many times that we thought it was live. It’s gonna be one of those Mandela things.

[@jhuranim]

Detective Lange's conversations with OJ during the chase were taped and were later dubbed over the slow speed chase pictures (video) in documentaries such as the 30 for 30 called "June 17" and the other one "OJ Made in America".

[@kolohe2790]

Love TomLange💜

[@tjdalyiv]

God bless Kato and OJs righteous mission

[@glamvan24]

New sub

[@Romulan2469]

24:36 When Lange is talking about his experiment trying to break the hotel glasses in OJ's Chicago hotel room, I do wonder about that as OJ was known to be extremely strong as a pro football player so if he was going to throw something and wanted it to break he probably could have broken something in that sink however there would surely be some traces of broken glass there. I presume Lange found nothing? Also there was a lot of testimony at the trial with witnesses who saw OJ board the plane and shook hands with him including the flight crew and none of them noticed a cut on his finger which is odd.

[@jasmine91alexa]

This was an amazing interview. But Britney isn’t bothering anyone she’s been through enough 💀

[@sallydarling5165]

OJ, 1 - Marcia, 0 She blew the case for sure. She thought she had enough... The Blood SHOULD have been enough. But then again, this wasn't about Murder to the Jurors... It was about Race.

[@GlitzyBuckle191]

9:21 my favorite machine, the vending machine

[@Romulan2469]

Next time you get Lange on ask him about the EDTA in the blood on the back gate.

[@Romulan2469]

Can you get Rod Englert and Henry Lee for an interview?

[@dspencer425d]

Kato is the epitome of 15 minutes of fame. He was slumming with OJ rent free. Luck has him in the right place at the right time and is been going on for 30 years.

[@DavidMcdonald-df8tb]

I'd rather watch a podcast with just Kato. The other guy interupts too much

[@jeff3443]

Man that guy must have a Webcam from 2003 lol

[@bunnybubs757]

Anyone know when this was taped? Recent? Month / year ?

[@TZScandal]

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[@bunnybubs757]

@@TZScandal Thank you!

[@nicholasjanke3476]

Tom Lange looks alot like Robert Duvall. WHY did the prosecuter not use the rest of the proof?? I think this circus....I mean case....needed all the proof it could get!

[@thomasjefferson8422]

Marcia Clarke lost the case. Will she ever admit it????

[@tulayamalavenapi4028]

Poor guy, trying to do his job. I'm not sure why he didn't want Simpson to kill himself.

[@rapman5791]

If OJ did himself in, he wouldn’t be adjudicated in the eyes of the law. The detectives want guilty parties to be held accountable in court. Suicide removes all of that. Only simple minded people think that a defendant committing suicide is some sort of closure in the case, nothing could be further from the truth. Besides, OJ Simpson loved OJ Simpson too much, I don’t care how much he OJ spoke and acted in regards to suicide,he was never going to follow through with it. Narcissists never kill the thing they love more than anything in the world (themselves).

[@purplehazen1000]

OJ could have plead guilty and that jury would have set him free. Before you say it, I know their is no jury at the arraigning.

[@lisabuchanan6371]

Poor Tom gotta be exhausted

[@StellaAdler_]

Huge difference between this one & the newest interview. The host should never roll his eyes when his guest is speaking, even half a role. Why have that guest in the first place if his answers frustrate u?

[@lovetraveler1]

The EDT in that blood was too high a level to have come directly from a human body. That’s what Dershowitz is saying

[@ppgedez]

The marathon runner mentioned has very sadly passed away in a car crash in February 2024. Kelvin Kiptum if anyone is wondering.

[@ellebelle4094]

Was the hair in the cap ever DNA tested to see if it matched Simpson's DNA? I don't think hair without a root could be tested back then, but now it can be.

[@Romulan2469]

No it wasn't at the time because of the lack of a hair root as you explained. During the civil trial Special Agent Douglas Deedrick, a hair and fiber expert, told jurors that carpet fibers found on a knit cap found near the bodies matched a sample taken from Simpson's Ford Bronco, and, cashmere fibers found on the knit cap matched the cashmere lining of the leather gloves found at the crime scene and the Simpson estate. Deedrick also indicated that negroid hair not similar to Simpson's was found inside the knit cap. I think this all points to another potential accomplice of Simpson who was black. All the evidence from this case is still sitting in an LAPD evidence locker to this day and they have no intention of revisiting this case ever again.

[@ellebelle4094]

@@Romulan2469 I did read the hair in the cap was a "match": to Simpson. Exact matches without DNA is not possible; it can only be consistent with. Was there more than one hair, one not consistent with Simpson? If the cap had fibers from the Bronco carpet AND the lining of the gloves, then Simpson must have been wearing the cap at the time. An inconsistent negroid hair would only mean another negro wore it--maybe his son or daughter. Two men would not be wearing the same cap at the same time. I do not recall much of the forensics of the civil trial, but they did have photos of Simpson wearing those gloves (they looked a bit small for him); and wearing "those ugly ass shoes."

[@notheothersarah]

You know, I like the fact that Cato is like yeah I got that job because of xyz, but when he shows up he is 100% in and very entertaining sorry you had to go through all that