Laptop Cursed with SiS - ASUS K50C Review

[@hananas2]

I'm so glad they finally don't put those horrible 768p TN panels on all the cheap laptops, man those were terrible

[@AraiDigital]

still do, some of them anyway, HP tends to put trashy panels on their small laptops

[@charginginprogresss]

It's not like you needed higher dpi on a small ass screen anyway

[@IndellableHatesHandles]

I have a 14" from Dell that has one. I'm never buying another Dell. The display is so fragile that if you pinch the corner slightly it develops dead pixels.

[@matchc0635]

This may be a glimpse into SiS(and in broad definition, VIA aswell since they are pretty similar)'s downfall: Losing ground in their exceled territory(motherboard chipset and whatnot), should already fold or be bought out already. Instead of doing so, or try to transition, they came up with the bottom-of-the-barrel crap in order to cling onto whats left, or acquire half-dead companies(like VIA with Cyrix), then proceed to make it more dead-er. SiS is now a comically small shadow of its former self, their biggest revenue as an IC design house is literally the stock dividend from UMC since SiS did created UMC in some way. VIA fared better because they had the x86 license from Cyrix/Centaur, which they license it again to China so the Chinese could make their x86 CPUs--which means some of their earliest CPUs from mid-2010s were just refreshed VIA Isaiah/Centaur C7)

[@NSHG]

I had this, the K70IC and the X5DAF. You couldn't do jack with a K50C. The K70IC was the top machine, having a MXM removable GT220M (at least that's what it said on the front) and the X5DAF had a HD4570. Both of the last two were usable compared to the failure that was the K50C. I finally had managed to sell the K50C somewhere around 2 years ago, although at that point it wasn't a K50C anymore - I had swapped a K50IN mobo inside it plus the heatsink from a broken X5DAF, along with a C2D P8700, a 240GB SSD and 2x2GB DDR2 800. Got me a good buck at the time.

[@kalsvtg5169]

The 672MX is essentially a rebranded SiS 315 from 2001 which itself was a low-end chip at the time. 672MX is actually slower, but has DirectX 9 support. The reason it's in these laptops because it cost pennies, even compared to the Intel GMA 900. Even with dual channel memory, this chip would most likely not benefit from it as the single channel DDR2 kinda already maxes it out.

[@giserson2]

Heads up, Far Cry is not running at the lowest settings in the video. The vegetation quality setting is most likely set to "custom", you can confirm this in the settings menu. The only way to reduce vegetation to low (which removes all grass) is to delete one of the (for some reason) two system.cfg files and then running the configuration tool, setting all the settings and then running the game. This must be done every time before running the game or the vegetation setting will revert to "custom".

[@Stealth86651]

Was going to say, as a poor gamer at the time who's integrated chip wouldn't even display some textures completely, I remember having to do this.

[@TheComputerGuy96]

My late grandfather had a K50IN. It looked nearly the same as this but it had a Core 2 Duo, 4 GB of RAM and Nvidia graphics. With an SSD it ran Windows 10 no problem.

[@nywi3]

We have a K50IJ, it's the same thing but compared to this one wasn't a laughing stock. If not for the HDD drive i can see how someone could still use it today. I have a shitload of memories from when i was a kid and had no clue what am i even doing. Thanx for the video, i really enjoy stuff like that, mainly for nostalgia reasons.

[@izperehoda]

Great video! Gave me nostalgia to my ancient dinosaur WinXP 1Gb RAM Celeron laptop.

[@JanghanHong]

Asus has some 2011-2013 server motherboards with integrated XGI Volari gpus. I am assuming that a SiS/XGI truck crashed near Asus headquarters, or maybe there was some weird Taiwanese tax incentive for using mostly Taiwanese sourced parts.

[@jordanl5444]

As far as these kind of devices go, I was actually kind of impressed by the mic on this thing. Definitely heard a lot worse

[@ToniaGlitched]

ok, so, my mom got a laptop with this iGPU paired with a Pentium T3400... so that's how it'll perform in gaming and day to day tasks once I finish doing my job of fixing it... it's also got 4GB of RAM in dual channel btw, and was built by a brazilian tech company that's famous for being horrible... now I'm even more curious to see how bad this is

[@marksmith9566]

I have a worse candidate: ASUS 15.6 with C60 AMD cpu and originally had 3 GB memory. I figured adding 3 GB memory would help; but no it did reduce the hard disk thrashing, but running Windows 10 is a stretch. The biggest problem is graphics: The Radeon software stopped updating a decade ago. Still using it but take it to library for updates which load slowly.

[@JessicaFEREM]

one nice thing about this laptop, the battery cover is seperate from the battery, you can take the battery out and not have a gaping hole, but it's not internal.and opening the laptop seems pretty easy

[@3kstra]

reminds me of my old locally made laptop, the brand was axioo, a local indonesian laptop brand still open today making some actually pretty competitive machines for their price. anyways, it had a core 2 duo t4800 (kinda forgot) and the sis mirage. as a young kid i havent found out about pirating games so i played (an admittedly pirated phyiscal disc copy) nfsu1 on it, was perfect for it. i even used it with its broken space key where i mapped the space key to the left alt and its screen which glitches out intensely when opened more than 45 degrees, used it for doing assignments during very early covid times. i miss it, i still have it but its dead as the fan locked up. luckily i realized early and turned it off right away. currently saving up money to revive it and even do some upgrades such as ram and cpu and maybe even new battery, keyboard and ssd. if i get to the point of fixing it up, i will finally try linux for the first time.

[@MaliciousAlfa]

I have the Asus K50IJ model. Looks a bit nicer but has an actual Intel chipset. With that said it doesnt perform much better, even with an SSD installed. The thing thats worse on the K50IJ model over the K50C model (yes there is a downside) is that 1 stick of RAM is soldered to the motherboard, leaving just 1 DDR2 SODIMM slot open for expansion. The good thing is that it is 2GB but if it decides to crap out then the whole laptop is just an oversized paperweight. Needless to say i do like it for nostalgia reasons, was one of the first decent laptops i owned. Great video explaining how much of a shitshow the K50C was.

[@pavelcollee-foley7997]

I remember having an asus EEE-pc as my only accessible computer and I used to spend hundreds of hours playing 8fps minecraft on it when I was 10. The most playable game I had on there was zdoom. It couldn't run GZdoom because that required a version of OpenGL that this SiS chip didn't support. Absolute potato but it made me respect any pc.

[@adwaitagnome]

This reminds me quite a bit of my Acer Aspire 5532-5535, a laptop that would have filled a similar niche in around 2010. It was similarly priced to netbooks and had similar performance to them too. It by all means was quite a bit better than this Asus machine, as it had a fairly decent GPU, 3GB RAM, and had (to my memory) an upgradable CPU. Like this machine, it was targeting the same crowd shopping for netbooks, it was basically just a bigger netbook.

[@jm036]

I go on discord - bro sends a screenshot of YOUR comment from 7y ago on old amd athlon ad video and expresses disgust at what you've become. I laugh. I play TF2 - find YOU on some idiot's steam profile. I realize and am mildly amused by the coincidence. I watch random youtube video - YOU commented already. Now this is ridiculous.

[@qwertykeyboard5901]

@@jm036 Huh?

[@jm036]

@@qwertykeyboard5901 Oh for gods sake! The entire troon crew is following me around now!

[@whitebeartigtig]

I have an old Fujitsu on the shelf with the same chipset, I believe it has a slightly better celeron, but it is just generally awful. Gotta say though, FancyStart is a really cool looking piece of software, cool that they included it even on such a cheap machine.

[@RuruFIN]

Funny that even my old Pentium M laptop with a Radeon 9200 Mobility 32MB (64-bit bus) feels like a monster rig when compared to this. :D

[@NikiDaDude]

I would have been chuffed with this kind of 3D performance (back in 2000).

[@biffzinker7994]

Thanks again for another video 😊

[@MrEdioss]

My 10 year old msi laptop can still be used today.

[@rizzztoiletohio]

I have pretty old Fujitsu Esprimo V5515 with the same gpu, and i was able to run there Arch and X11 with native resolution (1280x800) by using custom drivers

[@CHgameschanel]

I like your voice, dude. It sounds sexy like Waluigi

[@Oajs-s4r]

Watch this when i have this type

[@victormurori4367]

My first laptop was a netbook, hated it

[@dabombinablemi6188]

At least there aren't artifacts in Halo unlike with their old 315 (mirage 3 really seems to be the same core, with the bare minimum needed for DX9 compliance). I saw better performance than you when I played Halo 1 (gaming set to safe mode) on my old PC with the Celeron D 320 and what would have been the Mirage (SiS 661FX/GX).

[@SeñorDossierOficial]

Oh the Mirage 3+ it's even worse than VIA Chrome 9, and it's more bugged

[@SeñorDossierOficial]

Yup, it has the Mirage 3+ has the same performance of the SiS 315

[@EgoChip]

My old MSI netbook finally gave up the ghost. The RAM failed on it, I tried replacing the RAM and it wouldn't accept anything. The RAM is working fine though. I don't have the will or desire to fix it, it really isn't worth it as it's so old and slow even with an SSD installed.

[@ogdan1173]

I have a fujitsu esprimo mobile v5535 with sis mirage 3+ 672mx. Works decent, but I have a big problem with 3d acceleration in linux/freebsd. Also I have a problem with realtek alc268 only on windows 7 to 10. Now I use this laptop as backup with Debian in dualboot with windows 10 debloated. If someone can give a tutorial how to run 3d acceleration on linux or to fix buzzing audio sound on windows I will appreciate the help.

[@flydiscohuebr]

You can find the audio drivers by searching for OnlyFor_SiS_Chipset_5898_PG281_VISTA_TurnOff_PullMode_Upd There is a blog called caixa seca that still has working links

[@SeñorDossierOficial]

SiS master race :v

[@arnislacis9064]

Add external GPU to it, using Mini PCIe to PCI Express x16 adapter riser. It might help, maybe.

[@bruhtava1070]

i did that with an RX 550 on a SiS M672 system

[@JessicaFEREM]

it's one of those laptops that are so bad that you wouldn't sell because you don't want to curse someone else with the experience of owning this hunk of junk

[@EslamNawito]

Now that you installed windows 7 64bit??? I wonder if things change under a custom light modified windows 8.1 64bit Did you try changing unreal tournament 1 backend rendering from directX to OpenGl ? Windows XP limits OpenGL to version 1.4, things might run better with access to OpenGl 2.0 If you have 64bit you can still game somehow~ I wouldn't go far as tell you try gamecube 2D games emulation under openGL but You can run emulators like flycast, Elsemi model 2 emulator or indie games like Peglin, star of providence, Hotline miami, Luftrausers (this one requires OpenGl 2.1 tho~)

[@ondrejbursa9969]

I have Asus x54L, Celeron b800 (2core, 1,5GHz), 2GB ram, it was painful, but somehow I played Minecraft on it (low graphics, 5fps :D ) Couple years back i put 7200rpm HDD amd maxed the ram to 4GB And it flies :D well not really, but is like 10x faster, unfortunately the charging port is dying

[@SeñorDossierOficial]

8:00 Gaming Section :v /

[@armen_kocharyan]

It's crazy fast compared to my DELL INSPIRON Mini 1018

[@johndoes7569]

Fara gluma, am aceleasi perdele, asa ca pot sa vb in romaneste ca intelegi.😅 Primul meu laptop, Gericom, avea tot SiS. Se strica de atatea ori ca am invatat electronica doar ca sa il repar. Anyway, nice video and good luck with the channel.

[@F1Guy1]

i had one glad i had dead one but i had k50in as a daily driver in 2020

[@Txm_Dxr_Bxss]

still more usable than most netbooks due to the CPU being 64 bit.

[@jacobtube215]

Oh no 😢

[@rch5395]

Can it tf2 though?

[@BittiPomo]

my pacifist sister actually gave a nice "one punch" on the screen cos this laptop is total shit (even i did all the improvements it needed)

[@arrangemonk]

wife had one of those

[@AdrianRoncea-od4qy]

I had a piece of junk like this in 2011😁,also I had a Dell Inspiron 7559 with a hinge problem🙄with GTX 960m and I5 ,another piece of junk😒Celeron was junk only for 480 p video rendering,no chance for gaming in this but with Asus X54H-SX168D cu procesor Intel i3-2310M 2.10GHz and worked better

[@smileyface8124]

x5dij looks the same

[@ohiosigmarizzler344]

buy an thinkpad from 2011

[@lukedavis436]

I have an Asus X54c which i can safely say is Leagues better than that thing. I would probably own one, buuuuuut idk