These are first class reports on this channel, thank you very much for all of your efforts to keep us thousands of viewers informed.
@dennistafeltennis11902 жыл бұрын
Yes sir i love the content
@molfar90492 жыл бұрын
Medvedchuk is no longer under house arrest. He escaped the house arrest and tried to leave the country but was captured and now in prison.
@grondhero2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if he couldn't stand the "confines" of staying in his own home, or if he just was of the mindset "I can do what I want" or if he was worried violent people would come after him. If I were a billionaire and confined to house arrest, I'd probably be quite content, unless I had no security.
@CCB2492 жыл бұрын
@@grondhero I think he was trying to get back into Russia when he was captured again and put in prison.
@casual99822 жыл бұрын
@@CCB249 me too, if he made it to Russia he likely would've never returned to Ukraine and faced the charges. Oh well, "almost made it"...
@Karen-gv8fp2 жыл бұрын
Rachel Maddow on MSNBC recently gave an interesting report about the property this man owns and his connections to Paul Manafort and #45. Medvechek's house in Ukraine is huge and in the back garden there's a beautiful Pullman railway carriage with gold everything 🙄.
@justayoutuber19062 жыл бұрын
The guy had 55 HOMES!!!!! Viktor Medvedchuk, a pro-Russian Ukrainian politician and oligarch, was detained by Ukrainian authorities and had 55 homes and 26 cars seized. Former longtime Russian TV journalist Stanislav Kucher tells CNN's Erin Burnett "Medvedchuk is a guy who is considered by a lot of Russians and Ukrainians as a great master of con." Source: CNN
@crawfordcockers2 жыл бұрын
guessing the ship builders are freaking out that a good percentage of their available potential clients are going to be left with no money
@nan75032 жыл бұрын
probably mortgages on those mighty yachts. Even if seized, they must pay the mortgages I suspect.
@zencat9992 жыл бұрын
too bad for them...lololol.....this is what happens when you base your biz on known gangsters and criminals. im not cyin for em.
@zencat9992 жыл бұрын
@@johnwright3426 explain how a private yacht builder has any bearing on house prices?!?!? thier biz is boat building.
@zencat9992 жыл бұрын
@@johnwright3426 ahhh. used to werk for one. client money driven. ussually billionairs.
@bnuttsgee2 жыл бұрын
There will be open spots at Monaco F1 this year.
@RubbishFPS2 жыл бұрын
Finally... some parking
@RaulEdu332 жыл бұрын
Nice! I can finally take my 12ft sundeck pontoon to the race 😂
@bambinaforever14022 жыл бұрын
@@xpengfangirl7942 yeah, russians are dreaming so much that someone somewhere will miss u. No we won’t
@marktimmer22122 жыл бұрын
The FBI could rent it out as a hotel at Grand Prix.
@frankthetank93322 жыл бұрын
@@johnwright3426 not true, monaco is not so expensive as u think. For a 50meter yacht u will pay about 1500€ per day
@maureenj.odonnell44382 жыл бұрын
Great channel! I could watch yachts being seized all day long.
@arjenbootsma68812 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the British government looking for a new royal yacht, as a replacement for Britannia? They may have a few great deals to choose from!
@jazldazl91932 жыл бұрын
Somewhere Andrew can play playboy?
@kiabtoomlauj62492 жыл бұрын
We know the oil rich princes & princesses of the Mid East are super nice & they have super yachts to welcome British princesses, princesses, & old monied aristocrats & other Royal Highness of Europe. Shouldn't the latter also have super yachts, like this beautiful that Trump would love to have (in London, Marseille, Barcelona, Lisbon, Nice, the Hague, etc) to welcome the former as well?
@EricaNernie2 жыл бұрын
Boris would love a big yacht like Dilbar.
@_Briegel2 жыл бұрын
Since the mooring costs of the ships are exorbitantly high, it would make sense to use the space that the ships have. I propose to use them as accommodation for Ukrainian refugees!
@kp-qr6hy2 жыл бұрын
Boris would need to rename Dilbar to Dildo🤔🤣😂
@4metroscuadrados2 жыл бұрын
I believe that those yatchs would make some beautiful reefs...
@justayoutuber19062 жыл бұрын
Make a Ukraine Navy instead
@mrman4872 жыл бұрын
You could probably put a few howitzers and missile launchers on them and give it to Ukraine.
@jacquesraymond68922 жыл бұрын
Concerning DILBAR, i'm pretty sure there are a few Middle east billionaires just waiting for that vessel to be put on sale. Thank's again for another very interesting report.
@EfficientRVer2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure only a second-rate one would want someone else's leftovers, or the controversy.
@leerogers88812 жыл бұрын
The Saudi who rejected Elons bid to buy Twitter will probably be given it by the govt as reimbursement for keeping their propaganda disbursement method in tact.
@lauramcquade24382 жыл бұрын
So interesting. Before, I didn't understand how governments could do this to individuals, but thanks to you, now I do.
@bogeys12422 жыл бұрын
Having been involved with a seizure of a semi-submersible oil rig, I can tell you the winners are: the yard where it is held, due to fee’s and the lawyers. That’s it. No one will get their money’s worth in all this matter, but those two groups.
@johntchb2 жыл бұрын
Sounds about right to me
@alexandruraresdatcu2 жыл бұрын
That is why they should have a quick decision to put them up for sale or scrap them.
@AtSeawithAri2 жыл бұрын
What about the person who gets the yacht at half price?
@95SLE2 жыл бұрын
@@AtSeawithAri There are a few American Billionaires that lust after a superyacht. The fire sale for these ships is about to happen.
@AtSeawithAri2 жыл бұрын
@@95SLE especially when they can get something like Dilbar for 100 million, you’re 100% right
@coniccinoc2 жыл бұрын
The arrests and seizures are globally significant and interesting. These videos are recording this historic event beautifully.
@joegarry89832 жыл бұрын
THEFT, pure and simple, legalized criminality.
@coniccinoc2 жыл бұрын
@@joegarry8983 Theft paid for those yachts, perhaps it is fitting if theft takes them back.
@joegarry89832 жыл бұрын
@@coniccinoc Theft pays for all such yachts and two wrongs do not make a right. The thieves who took them back are but the reverse side of the same coin.
@coniccinoc2 жыл бұрын
@@joegarry8983 I imagine being a Russian Oligarchs isn't all young women and old wine, sometimes they have to deal with these minor setbacks. Somehow I think they are all going to be okay and probably come out of the war even wealthier.
@coniccinoc2 жыл бұрын
@@joegarry8983 It's weird how your fist comment is now hidden. I wonder why that is?
@TheSwedishRider2 жыл бұрын
I guess, if seized yachts can't be sold in short term, scrapping them and sell parts/materials would be more cost effective than maintaining them.
@sc13382 жыл бұрын
No make them museums so people can view them lol
@TheSwedishRider2 жыл бұрын
@@sc1338 cool idea, russian oligarch Museum! Or make them hotels, restaurants, party venues etc. Not sure if this would pay off, though.
@JonasLangnes2 жыл бұрын
They can't scrap it for the same reason they can't sell it... That should be obvious
@thenarrativeandwhyyouloveit2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching your channel for a while. Not sure why you don’t have more subscribers. Also not sure why news media doesn’t use you as a direct source. You’re well informed and obviously could have helped countries if they would have listened to you. Not to mention these updates are just plain interesting - Seeing the logistics of super-yacht ownership/operation, specifically in the current sanctions climate.
@DoubleTroubles7292 жыл бұрын
Why would he want to work with any news media, when all you get are lies and propaganda from that source!
@chuckhillier41532 жыл бұрын
Having done business with a maritime college in the U.S., I know that the government sometimes transfers confiscated yachts to those schools for marine education purposes.
@daneaxe64652 жыл бұрын
Gunnery practice would be educational.
@normferguson27692 жыл бұрын
I don’t think they can dispose of a foreign owned asset as the owners did nothing illegal. Drug runner boats are typically seized and disposed of as that is a crime.
@thedwightguy2 жыл бұрын
Well, start with the teak oil and soap at one end of the boat. by the time you get to the other end, it's time to teak oil all over again. I don't think so. Maybe "Age of Sail" types but not these plastic monsters. Most couldn't even get into a Port near the college. !!
@dave9105xcxcx2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your great videos. They are always very engaging and informative! I had no interest in super yachts until coming across your channel, and now always look forward to your latest updates and have also started working my way through your back catalogue. If it's possible, I'd be very interested to hear you interview others from around the industry such as crew, captains, yacht management companies, insurers and ship builders, and what about law enforcement agencies as well!! It would be interesting to hear their views on the different impacts on the super yacht world as a result of the Russian sanctions. Could that be possible? Cheers, Dave
@yareps2 жыл бұрын
I feel exactly the same. Now I look forward to eSysman's daily video update, and have developed an interest in super yachts -- a positive, I guess, result of the war. I second your request for interviews.
@carolmiland96652 жыл бұрын
Love how you explain all this to us. Thank you so much..take care..be safe
@thawrysh2 жыл бұрын
Excellent update and explanation of how seized superyachts are deal with. Very informative! *
@__hjg__21232 жыл бұрын
I'm just a tiny cog... in a big wheel... and you are 1000000 times more insightful on big boats than I am... But, I've worked on US gov't contracts on seizures... I assure you we don't maintain it "as it was when we found it"... we keep it at the near minimum to keep it afloat...we secure it, and seal it and make sure nothing gets stolen - we (generally) protect it against weather and rust and accidental drift and obvious hazards- we check for damage and leaks, etc... but, degradation after a few months is standard.. and more than a year can be significant.
@CAUSELESSREBEL2 жыл бұрын
Never dull here. The great updates just keep coming. Great job!
@justayoutuber19062 жыл бұрын
Have people never heard of police/gvt auctions? You can buy cars, boats, etc that have been seized in drug cases. Usually they are not well-taken care of, despite what the DOJ says
@P4hko2 жыл бұрын
What they are supose to do and what they do are 2 different things and when there is several countries and partys involved it can be hard to get someone to pay the bills.
@stalincat24572 жыл бұрын
What do you expect? That the goverment deepcleans seized goods? Or repairs the damage a vehicle sustained while running drugs and fleeing from police?
@jacemontalvo57312 жыл бұрын
Stolen. Not seized
@whhusa2 жыл бұрын
While I don’t dispute the possible criminal activities behind the ill-gotten gains, but what due process and under whose laws did the assets get seized? And what is the FBI doing in Spain? Why does the US government get to enforce its laws worldwide?
@95SLE2 жыл бұрын
Because the super wealthy in the US write the laws and they want a big ship.
@olasek79722 жыл бұрын
It is according to US laws, by the way, if you mean “criminal activity” it isn’t what it is all about, now please ask Spanish authorities how they allow FBI into their country, but strangely how it may sound to you many foreign governments do cooperate with the US.
@95SLE2 жыл бұрын
@@olasek7972 Because we gave them over 3 billion in aid in 2020. Who knows how much in 2021.
@olasek79722 жыл бұрын
@@95SLE joking? Gave to who, Spain? US doesn’t give any aid to a relatively wealthy country like Spain.
@goldensilverback9522 жыл бұрын
Great job reporting all this information since the Ukraine/Russia war. Keep up the great work!
@henryvanveen53652 жыл бұрын
Owning a superyacht could actually be a headache
@spaert2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was thinking. Maintaining a big, complicated outfit like that, paying fees and fuel, and keeping a decent crew.....wow. The hassle and money. I guess that's why there are management companies for stuff like that. But even more money down the drain there.
@jaquigreenlees2 жыл бұрын
expensive hole in the water to throw money into. Any boat that stays in the water is exactly that. A 90 foot yacht you can move onto with your family, selling the real estate and cars / trucks / suvs to consolidate expenses to the fewest. Then at least you aren't paying for something you are barely using. This does come with additional problems though. 1) You have to find a marina that will allow a live aboard morage. ( not always easy and nearly impossible in my area ) 2) fully operational engines on board are usually required to meet point 1 3) fully insured for point 1 to be possible 4) a lot of places, black and grey water pump outs are an additional expense. 5) haul out and surveys required regularly. There are benefits as well but you can see where it is not an equal trade-off.
@nan75032 жыл бұрын
Specially if they can't leave Russia.
@gianfrancobolla66582 жыл бұрын
Great show. Grazie ciao franco
@katharinatrub13382 жыл бұрын
Exactly Mr. eSysman, Who would...will... want to buy these extraordinarily expensive confiscated Vessels ?? Suspension is in the air! Anxious to hear more from you, and a happy Easter ; )
@jhill40712 жыл бұрын
I can just imagine some other Russian not on the bad boy list will get it for half price and then give it back to the original Russia owner and a suitable reimbursement.after Putin gives up on trying to dominate those nasty junk yard dogs in the Ukraine.
@petem.37192 жыл бұрын
Some will be bought by Investment consortiums who will put them up for charter. Others will be bought for a nickel on the dollar by people rich enough to run them but who don't want to put up the initial costs. These types may also charter them to defray the running expenses. Many rich people have yachts they only see a few weeks a year and charter them out the rest of the time. Some not so rich people do this as well, often with partners.
@katharinatrub13382 жыл бұрын
@@petem.3719 thank's for your reflection. Interesting ; )
@Are_We_Having_Tea2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the update, and all the good info! Nice shirt by the way, one of my favorite films.Have seen 017/004 in the pits at the Vintage races in Seattle probably a decade ago, the car did some flying exhibition laps and sounds stupendous.
@tolikmiro65332 жыл бұрын
Among the long list of property seized from Medvedchuk and his family: 30 plots of land, 23 houses, 32 apartments, 26 cars and one yacht ( Royal Romance). Great video as always sir!
@windsurfredbull11112 жыл бұрын
Great job love the updates...... Hoping to see some new yacht shows happening this season would love to see it from your dock walking Pointview. Would love to see some of the VIP clubs and parties happening also
@aukebij31932 жыл бұрын
the state newspaper in the netherlands has already announced that all seized yachts will be auctioned in december, it also states that the entire proceeds, excluding the auction costs, will go to ukrainne
@markmielke52832 жыл бұрын
"Go to Ukraine". What a scam.
@kathyolney40832 жыл бұрын
@@markmielke5283 yes!
@malcolmcurve95112 жыл бұрын
@@jeffstrongman7889 only suspicious to you because you choose to overlook facts and create conspiracies in your head
@JF2it2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffstrongman7889 it probably has nothing to do with a dad named Joe who has a son named Hunter.
@EfficientRVer2 жыл бұрын
@@JF2it Wow, even an article about something the Netherlands might do, triggers you to talk about a politician in the USA. Guess you were out sick the day they taught geography, and world history.
@julianmckernan13482 жыл бұрын
Great update ESysman thanks for sharing. 👍🙏 Congrats on 195k subscribers also… 👏👏👏
@lovelightcontinuum2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good explanations. I'm interested especially in the current state of things, to know what does happen with the sale of the yacht Kahu seized for running drugs. Perhaps you will do a video on that. I enjoy following your channel immensely.
@jorgegonzalez-larramendi54912 жыл бұрын
looked like stuff that was legal just over One Hundred yrs ago...
@TheAtma502 жыл бұрын
This is CLASS reporting !! Stay Safe & Keep Reporting !!
@acountryforwomen2 жыл бұрын
So, surprise, surprise, Usmanov the owner of Dilbar, is married to Gymnastics Trainer Lina Viner who set her student, the young gymnast Alina Kabaeva up with Putin after her "Sherherezade" performance won his heart...So explains the related yacht's name 😎 see wikipedia on Usmanov
@acountryforwomen2 жыл бұрын
see: "Usmanov, who is Muslim, married Jewish rhythmic gymnastics coach Irina Viner in 1992.[30][31] Viner is considered to be close to Putin, having introduced him to former rhythmic gymnast Alina Kabaeva.[32]" en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alisher_Usmanov
@darthkek19532 жыл бұрын
@@acountryforwomen "Usmanov, who is Muslim, married Jewish rhythmic gymnastics coach Irina Viner" That's some racial and sectarian tolerance the rest of the planet could do with.
@Piesy0012 жыл бұрын
@@darthkek1953 Really? They are slaughtering civilians from a different country, pretty sure that over rides and any of your good of 'tolerance' when of a when a bizilionare, horny old fella and a young fit gymnastic coach get together... Wow..
@candytoo37292 жыл бұрын
You continue to rock it out.
@Sommers2342 жыл бұрын
I always appreciate the straight skinny! So, that super expensive yacht that almost no one could afford to buy and maintain... if it ever goes to auction I'd guess a group of investors will get together and buy it and Charter it.
@user-vi2dk1qz5f2 жыл бұрын
But think about it if you had billions and billions of dollars would you want to buy these yachts thinking that somebody would be trying to take them back at some point there's going to become a glut of these overpriced shots on the market at some point in time I guess
@luchernou6272 жыл бұрын
@@user-vi2dk1qz5f nobody will dare to buy it ,scared of retalliation
@GTLees2 жыл бұрын
Andy P! that's certainly a plausible scenario. If they go to auction I could imagine there would be companies/consortiums trying for that very plan. Major corporations could certainly use a vessel such as these for various purposes and governments could put them to the same use as well. As others are stating, though, there would be a very negative stigma attached to these yachts. There's even the possibility of some powerful, nasty people who might wish to destroy what they lost as an act of revenge and "If I can't have it, nobody is gonna have it.". I cannot imagine any of those people going through the effort, expense and inevitable prosecution to get their boat back. In my mind that would be a "no win" situation that could only bring more trouble to them.
@insAneTunA2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that at some point in time these seized vessels are going to be used to settle some other issues, such as the issue with the leased airplanes that the Russian government has seized. The Russians should return those airplanes but the Russian government refuses to do that. This war is not going to last forever, and at some point in time all parties are going to settle the financial issues. And I think that these vessels will be very useful for those negotiations. In combination with other frozen or seized assets.
@TesterAnimal12 жыл бұрын
@@insAneTunA those planes are now worthless. The insurance and airworthiness certification depends upon a documented maintenance schedule. They will have to be written off. No company will lease to Russia again. Just another of poo tin’s stupidities. Check the Mentour Pilot KZbin channel. He has a good overview of this situation.
@dr.ianstone15842 жыл бұрын
The guy you said was under house arrest in Ukraine is actually being held by the government... in cuffs, and in a cell.He tried to escape house arrest by was re-arrested before he could flee to Russia!
@GTLees2 жыл бұрын
What a scuzzy dirtbag! What are the odds that they execute him, or even other proven traitors/spies, double agents?
@calvinh.88822 жыл бұрын
In the U.S. I believe when they seize property and it is sold/auctioned off, the money it brings will go to paying off any bank loans that are owed, and once the property is sold, if it doesn't bring enough to pay the bank loans then the person/s that retained the loans are still liable to pay the bank/s the remaining money that is owed. If they make money from the sale, that money goes into certain Fed/Government programs. Not sure where money made from these would go, but say they seize a yacht for drug trafficking, then the money made from the sale of that yacht would go into government drug programs.
@davidwarren97612 жыл бұрын
Maybe in the real world but that world no longer exists. Epstein is most likely alive and well and living in Israel. And where are those WMDs?
@robote76792 жыл бұрын
Always fascinating information on this channel.
@jimmarshall54532 жыл бұрын
I suspect the owners whose boats are seized will have someone bid on their boat to get them back under their control, probably at a huge discount to their original cost. I imagine a number of these giant cash consuming yachts being put up for auction near the same time will depress the bids even further.
@patriciabradley22862 жыл бұрын
I love your channel. I love your voice, you seem so kind and I’m really interested all about the yachts. Makes a change instead of always seeing war crimes. Thanks again.
@Reaper19472 жыл бұрын
Do you know how well the governments will take care of those yachts? Well, let's put it this way, those yachts will never be the same again. My best guess is 90% of them will be sold and the oligarchs won't utter a peep about it. The oligarchs know like the rest of us those assets were all ill-gotten gains. I love this shit. TheReaper!
@gooble692 жыл бұрын
"Do you know how well the governments will take care of those yachts?" It's not like the clerk from the local DMV will be out there scrubbing decks. There are layers of lawyers, insurance companies, and professional yacht maintenance companies doing all that kind of stuff. Some captain and crew are going to get a sweet gig living in these for the next few years.
@mkahn10312 жыл бұрын
Keep up the terrific reporting!
@Justin-hz8bh2 жыл бұрын
The amount of money these people have is staggering. I'm trying to work out how I'm going to afford a new truck for $35k and these yachts have running costs into the hundreds of millions. Just crazy. I cant even conceive of that much money for an individual.
@justayoutuber19062 жыл бұрын
When you have 20 people siphoning 20% of the countries entire GDP.....
@user-vi2dk1qz5f2 жыл бұрын
The amount of money that the Russian oligarchs have been stealing from the people for 20 years is amazing nobody else on earth has this kind of wealth
@crispbacon1132 жыл бұрын
Yeah I can't even imagine the 200 million dollars that Nancy Pelosi is worth! Not to mention all the other politicians that get rich on 170,000 a year!
@planescaped2 жыл бұрын
What were the numbers again? Something like 95% of the entire world's private wealth is own by 2% of the population. I don't begrudge a rich person who worked for/earned it... I have a little harder time stomaching the absurdly and grossly wealthy however... No one needs a billion dollars. When you hit that zero or anywhere close to it *all* personal income beyond a maintenance trickle should go straight to taxes. >__> Ya won capitalism, congratulations, now fuck off. But who am I kidding, the super rich would find some loophole or way out of it.
@jorgegonzalez-larramendi54912 жыл бұрын
i have not been able to Change The Oil of my old toyota in over one yr. and can't afford the insurance (miami fl)
@1zcott2 жыл бұрын
E ... love the background effects. "Cue the marina seagulls". Great channel! Thanks
@tcoker66162 жыл бұрын
When a citizen of the United States is arrested the “arresting body” assumes “responsibility and well being” of the arrested body. (Very nice legal terms). That includes health and welfare of the person that was arrested.
@darthkek19532 жыл бұрын
I think all US citizens arrested overseas should expect, as a base minimum, the same "responsibility and well being" the US state showed to the detainees at Guantanamo Bay.
@Pfsif2 жыл бұрын
Unless they are ordered to "Epstein" them.
@davidwarren97612 жыл бұрын
Jan. 6 detainees are locked down 23 hours a day and threatened with all sorts of nasty things. This government doesn't give two chits about what is legal, moral, just, appropriate etc. Why the 30330? Divide the year 2020 by 666 and see what you get. It is already happening. We as a nation are divided like no other time since the Civil War.
@casual99822 жыл бұрын
Every esysman video is super interesting, great work man!
@GTLees2 жыл бұрын
Whooo-boy! The lawyers have been busy, busy, busy. Aside from the obvious maintenance costs associated with these incredible vessels, the legal costs must be reaching the neighbourhood of astronomical. If/when they are sold off it would be interesting to get a peek at the spread sheets with the run-down of expenses versus recouped capital. When (if) one sells, probably by auction, there's no way someone will spend anything near the fair market value. It's gonna be reduced and I suspect reduced heavily so I would expect to see a LOT of red ink on those balance sheets heh, heh. Fantastic information here, thanks for doin' this!
@nan75032 жыл бұрын
Also, maybe the maintenance fees will be added to the purchase.
@remylagouler15082 жыл бұрын
@@nan7503 maintenance fees can quickly become more than the possible resale market price. Thank you for the crackpot heads who engineered these sanctions. The costs of this nonsense should be deducted from their personal net worth. Macron will become poor again very fast.
@GTLees2 жыл бұрын
@@nan7503 Anything is possible, but that isn't the most common way to do it, especially if it is sold at auction. I'm certainly not claiming to be an expert on the subject, just as I haven't seen every deal at every sale. I'm just commenting based on what I have seen and been aware of.
@ironmantooltime2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying arrested vs seized 👍
@GKCostalas2 жыл бұрын
What happened to the law. Don’t you have to prove (in a court of law) that these yachts were used to conduct criminal activity or their owner was CONVICTED of committing criminal activity? Knowing anyone is not a crime.
@blise518B2 жыл бұрын
Being close to war criminals is reason enough.
@williamscott8502 жыл бұрын
It's a complicated question and depends on a lot things not the least of which is the laws of the jurisdictional nation. In the US, there would (generally) need to be some kind of criminal or possible civil conviction for the seizure to withstand judicial review. If the government can demonstrate to a court that the yacht itself was directly involved in the money laundering scheme, the yacht could be subject to something known as 'asset forfeiture,' which itself is a very complicated process. TL;dr is under asset forfeiture, a conviction isn't necessarily needed.
@justayoutuber19062 жыл бұрын
They have lots of crimes on these guys - he said it in the video. And the civil forfeiture laws don't work that way - you have to prove your innocence. Been that way for years (no oligarchs seemed to care about it then).
@chadsimmons63472 жыл бұрын
Take from the rich & keep it from the poor?
@dskains2 жыл бұрын
I think you are correct from a seizure point of view, but arrested because of sanctions is a different ballgame.
@johnmcmillen82632 жыл бұрын
Very educational video here! Thank you
@normferguson27692 жыл бұрын
When they seize the yacht to exert pressure on a foreign government then they shouldn’t be able to dispose of the boat as the owner has not actually committed any crime.
@normferguson27692 жыл бұрын
@@celinedussault3623 but those are laws broken in other countries. The USA or NATO can’t try them on charges committed in another country.
@Paul-0102 жыл бұрын
Fascinating info and well explained.👍🏻
@mschr28802 жыл бұрын
Thank you again for the continued reports. The information on Dilbar seems not to be correct: Based on a report by the news magazine Stern, it still has not been seized ("beschlagnahmt"; Beschlagnahme is probably the best equivalent to seizure). Apparently the spectrum of possible administrative decisions is quite nuanced and difficult to read from the reports. But most likely it has been "arrested" as you said (not the German "Arrest", for the German readers) so far, to prevent it from leaving and thus being transferred to Russia. Two things have changed now: First, by identifying the owner, it it has been established that it is prohibited to perform any work on the ship, because the owner is subject to a "Bereitstellungsverbot" as part of the sanctions. In an earlier comment I wrote that as a yard or craftsman you would not want to attach any stuff to such a ship, because it can lead to immediate transfer of ownership of this material and you breaking the sanktions. Now it is clear, beyond this particular aspect of property law and the fact that you might not have known the owner before, that it is prohibited to work on the yacht. Second, the yacht is "frozen", as the Stern puts it. "It must not be used for the acquisition of funds, goods, or services, nor be sold, rented, or otherwise used as a source of income." Frozen vs. seized has two implications: The owner of the frozen ship may still use it personally, i.e. spend a night or two on the docked ship. The more relevant one is, that it is a disaster for Blohm+Voss/NVL. If it had been seized, the government had to pay for keeping the ship somewhere. Now the ship, which is not seaworthy, is just sitting in their dock, burining money. The reports are not clear whether the ship could be moved out of the dock, but I guess NVL would try to negotiate with the authorities now, to at least do some work that allows them to handle the ship better.
@ericaknesek32662 жыл бұрын
Love your channel.and your videos are ahead of the news !
@panagea20072 жыл бұрын
Just because it cost $600m doesn't mean it's WORTH $600m. Especially if it's involved in money laundering.
@EagleArrow2 жыл бұрын
Right! Plus, these rich people barter with other rich people. They hardly deal with currency.
@rski10362 жыл бұрын
@@EagleArrow How do you know that ?
@EricaNernie2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffstrongman7889 Agree. Can't imagine someone oiling the teak decks, for instance. Plus the yacht maintenance companies will simply take advantage of the situation and do the minimum required - and they'll all be after the contract as we speak. Money for jam.
@EfficientRVer2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffstrongman7889 I'd say that its "involvement in this" will REDUCE its value, not increase it. Owning one of these yachts would be like sailing around reading someone else's divorce papers, from a nasty divorce. No billionaire wants to be known for buying someone else's leftovers at a government auction. Nor do they want to worry that an angry Russian oligarch will at some point in time decide "If I can't have my yacht, then nobody can." Or that someone on the other side of the conflict will decide that some particular yacht belongs at the bottom of the ocean. When a seizing government decides a case is over to their satisfaction, and auctions it, that doesn't guarantee that the losing side can't hold a grudge or be pursuing legal action in yet a different forum. Getting 100% of all countries/ports to recognize ownership after a seizure and auction, probably isn't ever going to happen. And even if they recognize ownership, some countries might still choose to not allow the new owners to enter their ports, for their own reasons. Want to dock in China in 2035? India in 2032? Might not happen, if they blacklist anything that strains their relationships with Russia. Will places like Malta and Grand Cayman want to be the flag state for these seized yachts if there is still controversy and anger over them, just because some lawyers and some governments say the new ownership is valid, when a country with nuclear ICBMs says they disagree? I think that some of them will end up being driven onto the beach and broken up at Alang, Gaddani, or Chittagong. It's the equivalent of running a controversial or emotional original document through the shredder. Once you run the medical-drama records of a dead parent, or the arguments/evidence of a divorce case through the shredder, you don't have to look at them again.
@georgielancaster13562 жыл бұрын
There was a report that before this problem with seized yachts of oligarchs, a new yacht jumped in price after being built, because if you want to build a new yacht, you have to wait at least 2 years. So a perfectly new one, with a bit of aesthetic change to taste, is a premium purchase.. Like many of us, not happy to place an order and wait, a billionaire might just offer 10% or more premium, on yacht they like. I've heard that happens with certain hugely expensive sports cars you have to order and sit on waiting lists to get.
@jeffedge8722 жыл бұрын
Another great informative video. Thank you so much. Stay safe and have a wonderful Easter
@tempest9572 жыл бұрын
Superb video! I'm sure we ALL hope the money in the future from seized super yachts sales is given to Ukraine. This would be morally the correct thing for Governments to do!
@johngauntlett49152 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT AND INFORMATIVE VIDEO!
@terrible1ivan2 жыл бұрын
What if there is a note on the boat and substantial amount still owed to the manufacturer. Does the Yard have any recourse?
@dskains2 жыл бұрын
My thought is, like when you buy a car and finance the purchase, you get a loan from a bank. The car manufacturer has been paid but the bank might take it in the shorts. But, these Russians have so much money, I wouldn’t doubt they paid for these boats with cash and no financing.
@dexterm74662 жыл бұрын
Thank you Yacht Sensei🙏
@brucebenson59082 жыл бұрын
If Dilbar's build cost was $600 million and if it takes ten years to settle legal challenges before the government sells the boat, and if it costs 2 to 3 % of build cost per year to keep the vessel shipshape at $12 million to $18 million per year, then the break-even cost of a sale will be $120 million to $180 million. In ten year, Dilbar will be 16 years old and although presumably well-maintained, also presumably not upgraded to certification standards. So a buyer would be looking at well north of $200 million for an older boat. Ummm.
@maciejs33292 жыл бұрын
never mind - it will be sold on the auction so you can get it even for half price. try your luck.
@frankthetank93322 жыл бұрын
Someone bought 1990 MY Lady Moura for over 100millions, and sold his 2008 80m yacht mayan queen for it.
@preiter202 жыл бұрын
I really like your shirt eSYsman! What a great movie! Like your super yacht news too…👍😛
@scottgoode98742 жыл бұрын
Wow I really didn’t expect you to say that they will possibly be up for sale!! That’s going to hurt these oligarchs!!!
@netinfluencer2 жыл бұрын
I believe that senior officials responsible for the confiscation will disappear without a trace, and so will their family members.
@buckpowers48372 жыл бұрын
way to go in clearing up many questions. thanks
@musoangelo2 жыл бұрын
As he said, I'm wondering, even if you could afford one of them, the notion that the previous owner might want to do the new owner harm would be offputting. It would be interesting if the governments who have them can have the management companies continue to lease them out to cover the cost of holding them.
@osptony2 жыл бұрын
The guy in my pic would love that you’re wearing that shirt! I think it’s pretty cool as well. Keep up the good work.
@luizucchetto25282 жыл бұрын
I hope all the costs associated with the vessels are recouped prior to turning it back over to the owner or selling it.
@123waterjunkie1232 жыл бұрын
LOL. I would hate to be the countrythat was so excited to seize/arrest the most Russian yachts. 'Wait what you mean I have to hire a crew to maintain this thing?' I'm guessing $5000-$10k a month for the next 2 to 5+ years? Owners be like, wow what to with this extra 2-3 million dollars a month.
@jimmyquinn96392 жыл бұрын
Another good report 🛳🛥🚤⛵️👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@josephnier44632 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking artificial reefs.
@Donald_Shaw2 жыл бұрын
Always good information... Thanks so much for updating us.
@carolutley65232 жыл бұрын
Tragedies often have silver linings. The horrible events in Ukraine have brought your great channel to a wider audience 👍
@superchickensoup2 жыл бұрын
There is no silver lining to war, what a bizarre comment. I'm pretty sure if this guy could give up all his subscribers in exchange for the war to stop he would likely do that.
@carolutley65232 жыл бұрын
@@superchickensoup I'm sure that you are correct about that. It's a habit of mine to look for the good that arises out of evil. A u.tube channel is superficial. Some other positive outcomes include the extreme generosity of the Poles, Estonians and others. The increased unity of the Ukrainians, the EU and NATO. The rise of Zelensky. However, any of us would prefer that this tragedy never happened
@johnfraser60132 жыл бұрын
Great video ~ thanks eSysman ! 👍
@dexterm74662 жыл бұрын
Arrest is what you get ( a.k.a. Cardiac Arrest ) when your super yacht is seized.
@floridawoman252 жыл бұрын
what surprised me is that a lot of these russians own 2,3,4 yachts. One that owned the biggest one, also had a smaller one that carried his guests cars helicopters and more guests
@steveshoemaker63472 жыл бұрын
Thanks from Shoe🇺🇸
@beepseatsfindingfoodtreasu87562 жыл бұрын
Thank you for going through the process. definitely more involved than just taking the vessel and moring it up. does the price include the fees involved or would those be a separate fee?
@martin32032 жыл бұрын
What fees?
@Mike-ccu2 жыл бұрын
Great informations as always. 👍👍👍
@robertfrost16832 жыл бұрын
The Saudi Princes are already deciding who will get which yacht
@justayoutuber19062 жыл бұрын
They don't buy used
@robertfrost16832 жыл бұрын
@@justayoutuber1906 Dilbar maybe ?
@williamscoggin15092 жыл бұрын
Hello from Texas, I really like the Gulf shirt ! 👍🏻🇺🇲
@justayoutuber19062 жыл бұрын
These are usually "owned" by corporations, not literally private people. Just like jets, airplanes, buildings. etc.
@bipslone88802 жыл бұрын
Corporations are persons under the law
@justayoutuber19062 жыл бұрын
@@bipslone8880 But they are not private citizens. They are entities. Corporations can't adopt a baby, go to jail, marry a living person, etc.
@bipslone88802 жыл бұрын
@@justayoutuber1906 I never said they are private citizens. You should try reading before you comment.
@brunosmith69252 жыл бұрын
@@bipslone8880 Justa KZbinr is clearly not very bright... Have some sympathy. He/she has no idea of the definition of a "legal persona". Be gentle...
@altacat97022 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Facinating !! Thank You for work work !! : )
@csjrogerson23772 жыл бұрын
The 10% of build cost equaling yearly running costs is very, very broad brush, almost to the point of not being very useful. The biggest costs are: crew salary, pretty much fixed and the same every year; maintenance, general and refit maintenance is very small for the first 5-7 years but peaks at 2.5 yrs for an out of water survey, a very large survey at 5 years, a monster Special Survey at 15 years and paint jobs at 5-7 year intervals; berthing, water and electricity costs, these are variable depending on programme and location; crew food, pretty much fixed at a per diem; fuels and oils, variable depending on programme. Maintenance, especially refits, and surveys are expensive but in the early years of the yacht they are far less than the latter years as more work needs to be done as the yacht ages. In many cases an old yacht worth 5 million may need a major refit and survey costing 2.5 million. A new yachts' annual costs are generally less than 5% per year and 15-20% later, but its cyclical
@remylagouler15082 жыл бұрын
Exact. In all cases these costs will be transferred from the Russian owner to the European taxpayer who will have no privilege in return, like using the yachts. This is the beauty of totally stupid EEC governments. Amazing that citizens can eat such bullshit without overthrowing their governments nor the unelected bureaucrats autocrats of Brussels..
@csjrogerson23772 жыл бұрын
@@remylagouler1508 What a load of rubbish. The costs of looking after the vessel whilst it is seized, which is not large, will be recovered from the sale price. There will be no cost to the taxpayer. The funds received will go to the government central treasury and be used elsewhere, perhaps to educate anti-government dipsticks conspiracy theory whack jobs.
@bluezinnia8472 жыл бұрын
This is good news, thank you eSysman!
@cgourin2 жыл бұрын
I would look for a charter company to rent the boat and take care of it until sold. They seem more qualified.
@TheSnoopy17502 жыл бұрын
True but there are few people who could afford to even rent it. Bill Gates rented The Serene for $5 million per week from a Russian vodka magnate. That 450-foot mega yacht is worth $330 million and boasts 12 staterooms and seven decks
@cgourin2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSnoopy1750 True but even less people who can afford or are willing to buy it. So... is it worthless? not even it costs money, might as well rent it for less than market as long as it pays for it self.
@murraymadness46742 жыл бұрын
They should be used to house veterans of the war since their homes have been destroyed.
@cgourin2 жыл бұрын
@@murraymadness4674 Yes... would be nice but "nice" is rarely a thing of war, money and business if Ukraine gets some money it would be good enough but I doubt it. Maybe a gun discount they can't refuse.
@bluezinnia8472 жыл бұрын
I love your channel..Thank you so much!
@mectechman47942 жыл бұрын
A question related to what you said in the end that few people can afford or wan’t to pay for the running costs. How much, in general terms, do you think these vessels that you talked about would be worth if you were to cut them up for parts (ie engines, generators, tanks, ventilation equip, radars and navi equip, interiors etc). How much can you recuperate from a new or nearly new vesel?
@thedwightguy2 жыл бұрын
Washington Marine Group picked up all the new engines and other fast ferry assets in British Columbia for about 5 cents on the dollar. And that's a so called "legitimate" auction under normal conditions. !!!
@remylagouler15082 жыл бұрын
It is obvious that almost nothing really worth it will be recuperated from these boats. The cost of taking it away is already too much. These things are worth something only when kept well and maintained in one piece. They are almost artwork by themselves. Can you recuperate something materially worthwhile by dismantling a Rembrandt ?
@dorothyorr37242 жыл бұрын
fantastic report thank you
@tommyhairyeah77262 жыл бұрын
If these people survive what happens in Russia over the 6 months they’ll just buy new ones.
@justayoutuber19062 жыл бұрын
Yep. even more work to replace all the old ships
@netinfluencer2 жыл бұрын
I do not think so. I think if this ever goes over, people will die on the assembly line. By that I mean people who have been involved and decided that these yachts should be confiscated.
@Bozar0692 жыл бұрын
Love the Gulf Racing shirt.
@elizabethclaiborne64612 жыл бұрын
Governments have navies and naval academies. An entire workforce who lives for ships. They can handle it.
@JerryB5072 жыл бұрын
Good point. Put a prize crew on Tango and bring her to Norfolk for "safe keeping."
@canaldrip25232 жыл бұрын
Great insider
@mattfavaloro3502 жыл бұрын
Question if the court cases end up with the asset being seized does it have to be sold? Would it be possible to repurpose a ship like dilbar into a hospital that the World Health Organization could use to go to disaster zones or developing countries that don't have a Healthcare System? One more question if court case takes 10 years The Vessel will need a great deal of refitting and updating who's responsible for that? In the case that the yacht is returned could the owner then sue whichever government seized the yacht for depreciation loss of access to the asset?
@marktiltins88452 жыл бұрын
Good question They the authorities will have to dry dock them at their expense They are making the accusations
@CCB2492 жыл бұрын
buy as it at auction
@justayoutuber19062 жыл бұрын
@@marktiltins8845 Doesn't work that way for cars. Shit happens they say...oh well, sue us.
@justayoutuber19062 жыл бұрын
The cost comes out of the value of the asset
@mattfavaloro3502 жыл бұрын
@@jeffstrongman7889 first I'm not naive they were simple questions that I was curious of. Have you ever had anything seized by the authorities? I have stupid and you are ignorant they were questions because I can think for myself and have some critical thinking skills and was curious that's what I said does it have to be auctioned? What happens when nobody buys it stupid at auction then the government does what? Even if it is stolen it doesn't matter you can't do anything about it I've had my property seized by authorities and they could give a fuck about what I thought felt or wanted. Maybe you should educate yourself on what can actually happen when they seize assets. They do auction off cars because they are low value assets that are in high demand and they have no use for it. Most of them I should say they do not auction off all of them they do keep and you some but you're too stupid to know that
@richardharrison69932 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
@John-q5p9m2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention--the original cost of Dilbar means absolutely nothing when it comes up for auction. It will sell to the highest bidder, even if that dollar amount is 1. Someone will buy it and suck up the operating costs on a yacht they got for a fraction of what its build price was.
@LMays-cu2hp2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing..
@USVIsteve2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact according to estimates the moskva was worth essentially the same amount as the dilbar
@JerryB5072 жыл бұрын
I don't think Dilbar is going to join Russia's submarine fleet like Moskva did.
@frankthetank93322 жыл бұрын
Moskva was worth 600millions? This 40year old piece of sowjet technology? Really?
@USVIsteve2 жыл бұрын
@@frankthetank9332 750 million they estimated
@Joan-xy5wm2 жыл бұрын
@@USVIsteve Replacement cost for the Moskva is well over $1 billion USD.
@mikemoxley94772 жыл бұрын
Thanks Great report
@williamscott8502 жыл бұрын
Who is going to be dumb enough to buy the seized yacht of a Russian oligarch? You would be looking over your shoulder for at least as long as you owned the boat...maybe longer. It's not like these are the kind of people who live strictly within the confines of the law. Presuming there's not a quick alternative resolution to this situation, I imagine many of these vessels will fall into a state of disrepair from which they may never recover.
@crustyclown88452 жыл бұрын
You’re doing a good job with all this coverage eSysman. Or should I say eSysmun :-) Well done 👍
@mm-yt8sf2 жыл бұрын
i used to hear you mention the length of the largest yacht dilbar and didn't think much of it, but recently i heard that the mskva that sank was... 180m or so? so..wow a yacht in the vicinity of a cruiser. yikes :-)
@mm-yt8sf2 жыл бұрын
@@xpengfangirl7942 the nature of sanctions is to stop existing trade/transactions. if such business existed at all it was probably beneficial to multiple parties. there will always be ripple effects. to expect a sanction to only affect one person/party is unrealistic. think of the oil/pipeline deals that fell through with the oil companies. think of all the ongoing business between banks that came to a halt. they're not complaining publicly because that would be public relations suicide.
@otm6462 жыл бұрын
@@xpengfangirl7942 All of these shipyards and people working on these vessels knew what they were doing, you live by the sword you die by the sword. You got over 7 million Ukrainians displaced currently.
@grondhero2 жыл бұрын
Let's hope the government doesn't have _Dilbar_ for too long. Neglect could be in its future if this is a lengthy (years) process. For the billionaires, if few are bidding, they could potentially get her for a mere 8 figures, instead of 9. ;)
@elizabethclaiborne64612 жыл бұрын
It should go to the Naval Academy then.
@carlmorgan84522 жыл бұрын
Should be destroyed
@RobG0012 жыл бұрын
@@carlmorgan8452 Congratulations on adding to the myriad of moronic comments on here.
@RobG0012 жыл бұрын
At least Dilbar is in the Lurssen shipyard presumably in dry dock, with a small crew to keep an eye on her, inc I believe the Captain. Supplied by Lurssen.