Last Of Us 3: Ashley (Ellie) & Troy (Joel) Emotional During The Last Of Us Part 2 Joel & Ellie Story

[@SmackNPie]

The fact that even after multiple finishes, during the editing of this video, it can get to the feelings says a lot about Joel and Ellie and their influence and impact on the community, that's all i'm gonna say. #SmackEmpire

[@robogreek3157]

I hated the game but agree 100

[@jofis1510]

@@robogreek3157 not trying to be toxic but why didnt u like it

[@TheDeadgedd]

100% agree and with the loss of Joel and the destruction of Ellie this franchise is over for a huge section of the fan base which is just another sad ending to this game

[@joetroutt7425]

The problem I see with the context of the story is that it takes years to come to terms with considering forgiveness over what someone has done to you and for the devs to try to force you to do that in a 30 hour game is impossible. In order for you not to be impacted by the death of Joel, no the brutal beating and then death you would have to disconnect yourself with the character. It's almost like Neil deliberately forced you to see the world as Joel seen it until he let his guard down. (Those who were able to disconnect has a higher chance of survival than those who allow feelings to cloud decisions.) ←Something that I concluded from what Troy Baker said.

[@robogreek3157]

@@jofis1510 i dont appreciate someone taking a storie and butchering the characters. And have no sense of hope or silver lining. The fate bestowed to these characters written by druckmann was BACKWARDS. Ellie is pinned down and begging to not have her father killed. And shes the one who loses everything while that psycotic bitch sails off into the sunset with her revenge. Thats disgusting, and as for empathizing with Abby....whats the ONE THING that seperates a hero from a villian???.... REMORSE and when did you see Abby have flashbacks about murdering a man in front of his daughter after that same man saved your life....answer- NEVER, so there is no sympathy....i was forced to play as a monster. Imagine going to watch lethal Weapon 2 and Martin Riggs has his head bashed in and Danny Glover goes for revenge and half way you play as The south african diplomat that killed Mel Gibson. That is so fucked up....and the cherry on the cake for me was being LIED TOO....if druckmann had faith in his divisive game, and if he doesnt care about sales why lie to get me to spend 70 bucks. Just be honest and i would of said No Thank You....RESPECTFULLY. That is so dirty to me and then he tells fans they need therapy if they are emotionally invested in fictional characters. This game wasnt just disliked I HATED IT and the original was one of my ALL TIME favorite stories. In the fictional realm we dont need 100 percent realism, we need hope, and silver lining especiallly in todays world. The Last Of Us 2 should of been directed by Rob Zombie. Even on the back of the box it says expirience the CONSEQUENCES of Ellies vengence....WHY THE FUCK should ellie be expriencing these consequences instead of the evil bitch that took joel away from ellie in front of her eyes????? The consequences should of been for Abby as she learns how TOUGH Ellie is deep down and how much heart she has. As David pointed out in the original story. This was a HORRIBLE direction, HORRIBLY written, and what an ABSOLUTE HORRIBLE message for fans who DARED to fall in love with Joel and Ellie. Maybe its just me but ...i believe a product should be made for the consumer....it should NOT be made for the devs at Naughty Dog. As long as Druckmann is there i will no longer support that company.

[@melu0o]

Regardless of what you think about the game, The actors had put alot of effort into this project and so had the people designing the game.

[@musicheartsrandoms4326]

it wouldn’t be me if I didn’t loot as much as I’m biased about the story and their decisions, you can’t deny the acting is totally on spot, for each and every one of the actors in this game.

[@kingsley2837]

The story still sucked but i respect Troy and Ashley for their portrayals of Joel and Ellie

[@adriennecarrasco37]

@@kingsley2837 some days I feel the same way. I think that's why deep down it's a great game. The story is very complex dark and emotional. After I finished the game I felt unsatisfied and so emotionally drained for the rest of the week. Revenge is shit and people die everyday and not everyone gets a happy story. It fits 2020

[@adriennecarrasco37]

@Katz Perez I'm saying that I waited 7 years, was disappointed by spoilers before it came out, felt unsatisfied at the end of the game and still say it's great because it brought me through the same, if not more intense emotional journey than the first. Plus an identity crisis. I LOVE the first game. I do not love Part 2 but to me that doesn't mean it's bad story.

[@kingsley2837]

tristan renaut IMO it should have been something else, the revenge plot is something we have seen so many times on television, movies or previous games. Plus it was done poorly. It was a complete waste of time. Ending was like if John Wick killed everyone except the person who killed his dog

[@qixqc3114]

The thing is that I truly believe that ellie had somewhat of a good ending theres a letter you find at the farm when you are with Dina and the baby. It's Jesse's parents saying that ellie and dina will always have a place in Jackson if they choose to come back home. And if you notice when ellie goes to santa barbara she was not wearing dina's bracelet but when she returns from santa barbara the camera zooms in on her fingers wich look almost completely healed we were focused on the fingers missing but looked completely passed the fact that now she is wearing the bracelet indicating that she has already been to Jackson and is living with Dina she just went back to the farm for the guitar but decided to leave it That represents her finally being able to accept Joel's death and bring an end to the cycle of revenge If you also notice when she enters the house she doesn't seem surprised that its empty and she doesn't call out dina's name, she doesent have her guns on her and she is wearing new clothes.

[@Ppboys12]

damn i never thought of that

[@amilo6395]

well, Abby(tch) still more happy than Ellie because of her revenge

[@alejandroalvarado3409]

@@amilo6395 trust me, she's not.

[@FATE_I7]

A Milo who knows Abby and lev could have died on that boat no one knows

[@sertan138]

@@amilo6395 She probably not. She avenged her father but the cost was her friends.(Also the man she loves)

[@sir_eerodd]

Naughty Dog told a story of what loss feels like, referencing to the 1st game Joel tells Ellie, " You have no idea what loss is." In the 2nd game that's exactly what she experiences, nothing but complete loss.

[@felipearaya3546]

She lived it in the worst possible way

[@TheKillaShow]

Ellie experienced loss since well before this game but ok

[@pepe12699]

@@TheKillaShow Ellie has lost friends in part 1 and before it. In part 2 she has lost her father figure. There's a difference.

[@MrTysonfish]

@@pepe12699 not even just that. she lost Joel and two of her fingers so she can’t play his guitar anymore. she lost Dina and JJ as far as we know. she lost her mother’s switchblade in the fight with Abby.

[@lethalsoldier8082]

@@MrTysonfish she lost jesse too and her relationship with tommy is kinda crushed now too

[@joeblack3036]

I love how seriously Troy and Ashley take this role. You can see the genuine heartbreak in their faces and hear it in their voices when discussing certain parts of this game. No matter what those two do in in the future, the first characters that will come to my mind when I hear their names or voices are Joel and Ellie. Thanks guys.

[@johnbartholf777]

I wonder if anyone ever realizes that all the Fireflies had to do was wake up Ellie and ask her for her consent to sacrifice herself in order to prevent ALL of this drama.

[@alejandroalvarado3409]

they were too desperate to wait and ask.

[@pulpficti]

Maybe. However I have a strong feeling Joel would still try everything to prevent her death. And if he failed would probably kill himself.

[@sunnysied713]

@@alejandroalvarado3409 No, there was nothing 'desperate' about their situation. 15 minutes wouldn't have killed them. Marlene was there. Ellie agreed to be transported to help find a cure. Marlene would expect her to make the sacrifice. Unfortunately, the LoU1 ending was contrived to force a shock ending. _Rush that girl to the operating room AND don't resuscitate her or ask for consent!_

[@sunnysied713]

@@pulpficti Joel would have a much harder time if Ellie told him, "I want to die to save humanity. It can't be for nothing. Thank you, Joel."

[@JoelMiller77]

Yup..

[@PotatoIsNotCute]

The face on Joel when Ellie eggs him on to tell her. His shut eyes, staring at the ground. His eyebrows lowering and wavering. His lip trembling and frowning. I'm sure if we zoomed out, we could see his fists clenched. So fucking well done. That's a man who doesn't know what to say.

[@afraidsari]

the acting in this scene 15/10. all the ppl justifying joel are also ignoring how ellie felt about it

[@koryrobles3045]

😂😂😂😂

[@joetroutt7425]

I only justify Joel bc they never told Ellie she was going to have give her life in order to develop a vaccine. Sorry but they could probably develop a vaccine for the Corona virus alot quicker but that would involve risking lives and that's not what society has come to yet. The death toll just isn't high enough to start sacrificing lives to save lives. So back to the correlation. Society is destroyed and the only way to get infected is to get bit or breath spores. Kill all the infected and sanitize the spores and society can rebuild. There's no other explanation as how ppl get infected other than that so eliminate that and there's no need to sacrifice Ellie.

[@dandylione1]

Joe Troutt Joel knew what Ellie thought, she basically told him that and that’s why he lied to her for TWO years. He knew.

[@diegovillanueva3904]

They need to make a DLC of when Joel and Tommy were hunters. I really want to play as Joel one last time.

[@TheHaloBearer]

If Ashley doesn't clear house with any and all VG awards - I may need to riot. Her performance is what made me feel so sorry for Ellie and her mental anguish she went through during TLOU2.

[@T3AMKILL]

Unbelievable that she’s won nothing for what is the most visceral self-deconstructive grieving process I ever experienced in any media. Her acting and emotion was better than any movie or tv show. What a joke.

[@nuttygx]

ellie and joels final conversation never fails to make me emotional.

[@s.hitman]

the acting is SO GOD DAMN GOOD!

[@SmackNPie]

It is

[@joethar5750]

Damn the fact that the only series of games that have gotten me so emotional about a story brings the LOU series up so much higher but the fact that voice actors get so upset about these characters as well just brings it up even higher as my favorite series of games. Love the vids #SmackEmpire can't wait for the confirmation of LOU3

[@sunnysied713]

They're voice actors who are still acting to 1) promote game sales, 2) fulfill contractual obligations, 3) receive contract bonuses for sales performance and 4) preserve/promote their career and legacy. Did you think they were going to shit on the game? Lol. They're Sony employees and have a vest interest in the outcome.

[@musicheartsrandoms4326]

The only reason I want lou3 is for Ellie to finally to get her cordyceps infection removed. Even if in the end it doesn’t work and the cordyceps will continue to take over, it would be interesting to see how it could play out, Abby looking for Ellie, her trying to get Ellie to the hospital etc. etc.

[@TheDeadgedd]

I have no interest in tlou3 but my tuppence the US government at the start of the oubreak would of squirreled away the best minds and equipment to combat the infection they hear about Ellie and find Abby and Lev send her on a mission to retrieve Ellie Abby finds Ellie takes her to the operating table where she finally gets her wish to die for humanity her head is cracked open no cure/vaccine can be made Abby bursts in tears realising the entire tlou2 was a waste of time preferably though Ellie wakes up hung over from the party rushes out to Joel tells him to avoid a girl called Abby or kill her on sight and we get a real sequel about the two of them and what Ellies immunity means

[@rombe6680]

If you want another franchise like that,play the red dead redemption series

[@mglwulf4724]

Gotta praise Naughty Dog for having the balls to develop a game like this with a whole new level of gaming experience. Despite the hate, I hope they continue with their way creating games like this.

[@edoardoolivero]

Most of the people think that Abby should have been moved by Joel and Tommy saving her and feel bad for trying to kill Joel as consequence; but I think that's really arguable. Even if the man who killed my father helped me escape a though situation, I think I would still feel the pulse to murder him back with no rethinking. I guess it's just human to hate, love, seek revenge and/or forgiveness, have regrets. That's what I loved about the Last of Us part II: Naughty Dogs didn't make a game for us to enjoy, but a hurtful experience written to explain a little better our emotions and the fact that our world doesn't care for us, we're not main characters. And pain or death are certainty. Joel's death for another person's revenge is the most natural thing to happen, OF COURSE is not what we wanted: life rarely gives us what we want, isn't it? The story of this game has his highs and lows, but it's fuckin humanity at it's obvious worst and it's the best tale ever told in videogames.

[@aliesgh48]

Joel we miss you we love you for ever rest in peace

[@dandylione1]

I’m really moved by the way Ashley breaks down exactly what Joel’s actions and his lies did to Ellie. The burden she carries, depression, anxiety, feeling purposeless. I really hate the way people just brush Ellie’s feelings aside in favor of Joel’s.

[@whatsnerdypodcast3649]

What hurts me the most is she is completely justified in her feelings there is no redeemable thing Joel can do. But at the same time I think I would have done the same as Joel.

[@hdguy5]

Nicely edited with the Beyond Desolation track at the end.

[@SmackNPie]

I was waiting for someone to pick that up, I like this style of editing far more than flashy images, fast cuts etc

[@hdguy5]

@@SmackNPie I'm an editor myself so I see these things :)

[@campbellalbertina]

Well, Joel saved Abbey from the infected so it would have been more realistic if she felt conflicted in her decision to kill him. Irrespective of if he killed her father he saved her so she would see that there was some good in him.

[@lidaaletap2646]

Yeah but can't we say the same about Owen? Owen made sure that Manny Mel and Jordan didn't kill Ellie and Tommy and let them go since they hadn't done anything wrong, and Ellie still kills him

[@inspv95]

Lidaa letap it was more a defense, Ellie wouldn’t have killed them...

[@inspv95]

Element Hunter just because you don’t see it, it doesn’t mean it’s bad ;) it’s normal if you don’t have the maturity to understand the story, don’t be afraid to be immature...

[@campbellalbertina]

@@lidaaletap2646 Well Ellie only killed him due to self-defence.

[@nielsvoinov]

@Element Hunter Dude you are pathetic for real.. If you didn't like the game, okay! Why not.. But all of those people who say that this game is shit, are giving shit arguments.. All of those people who loved the game and do some video to say why this game is wonderful and like everything, can't be perfect, are giving true and intelligent arguments that show everything... As a random guy who's fan of cinema, I Know how to recognize a good movie and a bad movie.. I would like to talk with you if you want without insults 🙁 (my English is bad? Idc 🙃)

[@liganjinxeseverything3174]

Man, this is what I wanted to see (or well, more of it) in the 2nd part, because I knew there were going to be repercussions for their relationship following Joel's lie and I was expecting an emotional roller-coaster ride of a story between these two, yet with them still managing to reconcile in the end or at least before Joel died. I know that these issues are deep and require a lot of time and it's really sad that they weren't given that time (in the 2nd part of the game at least) to accomplish it before he was murdered. However, I know that in real life people are often snatched away in a blink of an eye. So... That does happen, yeah. The sad thing is, the Last of Us was like a ray of sunshine to me in a bleak and dark world, but the second part ended with a little too much sadness and brokenness. So, I'm not sure how I want to take this game...

[@TWHISPERER]

I finished this game around a week ago and after the credits rolled, i instantly started playing the game right away - Why? It is because i was very sad, as i am sure all of you were too, and i just couldn't walk away or take a break from the game yet, i even finished the first one for the second time while i was playing Part 2, that is how much i love these games. I am not as sad as i was the first 4 days, but i still feel sadness nevertheless, i am not ready to take a break, i am even about to pop Part 1 back in again for the third time. I am sure that in three weeks i will say "ok, that's it, that's enough of these games...for two months anyways, it's time to get over it, it is just a game, another one is coming, take a break man", but until then, looking at Ellie's statue and...and...i'm just not ready to say "see ya in a few years" yet...

[@morganplaysgames5837]

It’s been ages since I completed it. And I’m still not over it

[@bakedpotato2.081]

No one is over it I assure you, but you could try something. Ply the dlc

[@balthazaratticas150]

The heavy breathing they left in really makes those scenes that much more believable but damn I just can't get enough of this game

[@mylastlight]

I'd like to play as joel in between the start of the outbreak to when he becomes a smuggler with tess

[@nicarlos73]

I actually felt that Ellie's strong reaction to Joel finally telling her the truth was a bit off; Given the ending of part 1 seems to indicate that Ellie already had a sense that Joel was lying to her to begin with. Ellie reacts as if she's completely blindsighted by Joel's confession which doesn't fall quite in line to Part 1's ending. It was just a bit odd to me watching it.

[@SmackNPie]

It was weird, but the way I see it, like you said, part of her always knew Joel lied to her, but she trusted him enough to do the right thing for her, that "Tell me the truth" To me was more of Ellie accepting the truth that she purposefully avoided, even though she knew, rather than blaming Joel. The way I see it, it's Ellie blaming herself rather than getting mad at Joel. Except for "You took that from me" Part

[@livxoxo2988]

I think before she decided to live in denial despite knowing the truth deep down, because it was her only way to cope with the guilt and to keep that relationship with the only person close to family she had in her life. When there was no way she could live in denial anymore or escape the truth, because the evidence was then laid out in front of her, the weight of it all fell down on her. She couldn’t pretend anymore. And understanding the fact he’d genuinely lied to her all that time would have hurt so much, even if she kind of knew deep down beforehand. She didn’t want to believe it, and when you don’t want to believe something you often choose denial. When that’s not an option anymore there’s nothing left to do but face the truth and pain of what’s been done and what could have been if things were different.

[@nicarlos73]

@@livxoxo2988 Fair enough.. I can understand that frame of mind. I think what would've helped me personally with her reaction was if Ellie perhaps said something that presented those feelings. Even just a few words. For example after Joel's confession as she's breaking down she says something like: " All this time.. I didn't want to believe it" .. I think her saying those few words would've sold me even more on that idea. I get what you're saying though.

[@livxoxo2988]

Carlos Nieves yeah I can totally understand your point of view, and this was still only my interpretation. I think it’s totally up to the viewer to interpret in whatever way they’d like so I respect your view, just wanted to get mine across too in case it might change your perspective in any way.

[@herndonhimself2567]

I think it was the thought that she could have lost her life. The fact that she could have died on that table and never had known

[@meh23p]

1:20 This is what I’ve been saying to people all along. And this is also why her grief over Joel was so complicated, and why she couldn’t open up to Dina about him, and why she couldn’t have a normal life. It’s so tragic.

[@Deathane]

This is what happens when you put two people together who just so happen to have an amazing connection!

[@meh23p]

Holy shit, now I just got teary over that last scene...

[@ULTIMATEBoyYT]

I hope making a DLC of this game, would let us play as Joel. I miss him 😑

[@jamilhussain6503]

They should make a prequel for joel like 20 years earlier. It'd be cool to see how he survived over the years. Also how he coped after losing Sarah and falling out with his brother. And how he met tess and became best freinds.

[@ClydiieTwo]

rewatching the series from the game after watching the show feels like I just read a manga book and watching the anime

[@max-cj6zz]

The parallel of Ellie telling Joel “don’t you fucking touch me” when he found her after everything with David vs now.. pain omg pain

[@agathisraine5110]

I know that feeling for real. Unable to say you're sorry. The things you should have when they were alive. I haven't to this day said sorry I love you to my mother. It's been 11 yrs without her. She died in 2010. I was only 13.

[@pranaysharma5080]

I have personally finished this game atleast 8 different times in all kind of difficulty level except grounded! And every time I played this game i get tear up Specially when Joel dies and at the last conversation between Ellie and Joel! I understand a lot of people didn’t like Joel’s died so early in the game but having him died actually made this game so amazing! His death actually gave Ellie a reason to go on such a dreadful journey and made her realize that vengeance can cost you everything! Which is what exactly happened in the end she came back finding Dina and jj is gone, she lost her mother’s knife and lost two fingers and can’t even play the guitar anymore which was the last string connected between her and Joel! Overall my personal opinion This game is a masterpiece! A very dark and sad masterpiece which tells the story that you don’t always get happy ending!

[@EonServoXA]

Time for grounded permadeath

[@kym966]

Poor ellie, humanity on her shoulder, and lost everything she had. Poor little ellie...

[@sablemae8853]

The overall narrative continues so we'll from the first game to the second. It really pushes the morals of each character so well and makes you question everyone's actions. Ever since joel took her from the fireflies it's been a rollercoaster of what would you do compared to what the characters do. You need to have empathy to be ok with what happened. To understand each person's truth.

[@hammer-0]

I am so sad right now im crying on the inside

[@tweeze123]

How are the cut scenes so good? The managed to capture their microexpressions of their face. Did they do face capture?

[@EonServoXA]

Yeah they did face capture

[@ivanz3222]

All of those who play The Last of Us part 1, wish they never seen this moment. When u get attached to the characters...this is just heartbraking. Part 2 is absolutely masterpiece and something we will never forget

[@mrmrgaming]

Technically the game is a masterpiece. Audio, visuals, performances, locations.scope......but that story,y wtf. It's like watching a football player start at his own end, making a run with the ball, getting past every player with ease, poetry in motion, no one gets even close, its smooth sailing and nothing to stop him scoring the most perfect goal ever, only to then fall flat on his face when he gets to the open goal.....how on earth did they miss so badly.

[@michaelnc2053]

I share your displeasure, the whole game is an empty journey, there is no goal at the end, what motivated us to continue playing the game was to be able to avenge Joel for that stupid and forced death and what did we get in the end? Ellie saving Joel's killer, what the fuck, I can't believe how they allowed that, can't beliebe we all waited years of that, they dug their own grave.

[@feherdora9763]

It's funny, because the first game is same. The first game is about that we want to get Ellie to the Fireflies to develop the vaccine. Tess, Sam and Henry die along the way and we end up throwing it all in the trash because we kill the doctor and lot of fireflies in the end and stop making of the cure to save Ellie.. Holy shit, the whole journey is pointless because it is not fulfilled for what we came for!! Agh, the first one has a shit story, isn't it? No, not at all... It's not that simple... The essence of the story is in the road untill the goal. On that road, you can understand the characters, their motivations, their feelings and other stuffs.. That's the point... If you’re attentive, you can figure out why Ellie finally let Abby go.. It's not a simple John Wick movie, it's more than that... (Sorry for my english, I hope you got it)

[@michaelnc2053]

@@feherdora9763 haha can't believe u wrote that, Joel and Ellie were on a trip for almost a year, we saw how their relationship progressed, how the man who lost everything had something to worry about again, who to fight for, it was a bond that both had, and you come here bravely to compare the first game with the second? Haha, what a joke, in the second there was no that, there was no interaction that makes you feel what you felt in the first, there is no story that you immerse yourself in wanting to advance, we wanted to advance to avenge Joel and we did not get even that, there's no purpose in that game, they only focused on Abby, she ended up being the protagonist, which sucks , it's disgusting how we were lied to in the face with fake trailers, with marketing that filled you with hype, that made you expect a great game with Joel and Ellie interacting after years, and what did we get? A ridiculous story, the stupid and unnecessary death of Joel after 2 hours of gameplay and flashbacks of Ellie being a shitty person with Joel, they maked the murderer of Joel the protagonist, the great character of the first game, and in the end not being able to avenge him at least to take away the bad taste in the mouth that his death left us? How disgusting and stupid that you compare a great game like the first one, with part 2

[@feherdora9763]

@@michaelnc2053 haha, I can't believe, you didn't understand anything about what I said.. If you compare a story to a football match, then the solution is same with both of the games, because a story isn't that simple.. That's the point... THAT'S WHAT I SAID! But you came here, you start to preach about the point of the first game, what I fucking know, you tell me your personal opinion about the Part 2 what not a global truth and call my comment disgusting, because you can't got it what I said and you take it as a personal attack against you.. WTF?? I just missed the "how dare you!" part from your text.. Anyway, you didn't understand anything about the second game and of course, you take as a personal attack, that they killed Joel and they showed something else in the trailers... You can't handle that the story is not like you thought, that's all... As lot of people, the only thing that you see in the story, that they didn't make an evil character from Abby, though it would have been simpler. Moreover, we had to play with her and walk in her shoes... And probably you think, that the game made her the good guy, and from Ellie they made the bad guy... But the truth is that Abby never been the good guy and Ellie never been the bad guy! They are humans! They can go wrong and they can make good decision too. They are not evils and they are not heros, it's not that simple. Joel wasn't a hero either... Abby isn't fine with what she did! Maybe she didn't apologize for it, but she still had nightmares after that, and she isn't proud of who she is, and what's more important, she knows that her father wouldn't be proud of who she became. It's in the game.. Ellie suffer from the loss and suffer from the compunction because she couldn't forgive to Joel. She steped to that path of forgivness but after that Abby immedietly took that from her. That's why she can't let go her revenge untill she realize in the very last moment (when she was seeing Joel in that memory) that to stick to the anger can't be worth it. she sticked to her anger for two years and when she thought that she can try forgive and let her anger go, she lost Joel and only left anger and the goal of this anger is to kill Abby. I don't think that she's the bad guy because of it. It's a natural human reaction for this trauma and a goal when there is nothing has any sense. Joel didn't deserve that kind of death and Abby didn't deserve death either. Abby and Ellie are on the same path, but different points of that path. In an alternate universe, this lineup may even be the opposite. The reason why the most of the people hate this game and call it shit, is that they don't want to look at things from multiple perspectives and they don't know anything about the psychology of revenge, just what tell about it the John Wick movies (and I can tell you, it's not like that). For example in RDR2 (I love that game anyway), there's an easy revenge story, what everyone can consume because Micah is an evil man and there is no doubt, that he deserved the death. This is an easy storytelling and what The Last of Us Part II do is the hard one and it's not for everyone. If you only see the start and the end of the games, both of them are pointless.. but if you see beneath the surface, you see the perfect psychological part, you see the motivations, you see the human beings in a dark world (their good side and the bad side) you see love, you see loss and many other things.. you just have to open your eyes! If you think that the story of the Part 2 is bullshit then I have to think, that you didn't play with it or you didn't understand anything from it after you finish it... Grow up if you can't handle that there are people, whose don't think as you.. I think both of the games are masterpeace... "How disgusting and stupid that you compare..." Holyshit, what's wrong with you, man??? It's just a game!!

[@cn5803]

Hi is there more. Of this interview/podcast? I would like to listen to it.

[@Gwaredd86]

There was no certainty the operation was a success and the fireflies were going to kill his surrogate daughter without asking for her consent. They even threatened to shoot him if he tried to save her... Yet Joel doesn't ever defend himself once in part 2, just accepts he's the bad dude in the game and takes all the abuse without explaining his perfectly valid actions. Literally every parent would have done the same yet he's portrayed as an animal in this

[@MotorCityPhoenix313]

Exactly. I couldn't believe a doctor would do the procedure without even asking for her consent.

[@jeremyyy6709]

Lots of videos and podcasts I recommend to people who want to talk bad about this game even ones that include these 2 and the game director where u really get to learn that effort that was put into the game

[@pspspspsps44]

I despise the game but I cant refuse that the actors have done a great job, no matter how much I hate the game the acting is 10/10.

[@AlexGordonMusic]

It’s called “the trolley problem” Troy Not the cable car problem lol

[@captainestivi]

It's both

[@jasondavidstapleton8337]

watching Joel being killed it made me cry it made me sick

[@charliemccartney9626]

Good video

[@mustafaakram8502]

Honestly the way u ended this video I swear I felt like I was watching last of us 2 where Joel didn't die and the game ended with this scene ellie forgiving him and watching it was a master piece if this would have happened

[@goadmerle]

Going with the story. This could keep going. Leaving abby alive. It never came out. The reason for abbys dad dying was over the cure(ellie). And abby could find out ellie is the cure and go back after her. Please make a part 3

[@SnesusKhrist]

What do you think Joel was thinking, looking at Ellie in the end of his life? Id like to think he was happy for the person Ellie had become

[@morganplaysgames5837]

I bet he was terrified in case they hurt her :(

[@smoker5989]

I think he was worried they would kil her and Tommy too

[@asgardia-1977]

The Last of us (I and II)is one the best game I ever played It's nothing but a Masterpiece. Many thanks to Neil Druckmann, Ashley, Troy and Naughty Dogs for this amazing experience. Don't' let talentless and frustrated people destroy your Art, don't let them deprive us of TLOU 3

[@lauraferriss1600]

The main character of the game was always ellie people got too attached to Joel it's just silly she is the one who's immune who lost everyone she ever cared for and was tossed around and lied to by the fireflies in the first place and Joel kind of had it coming he did alot of bad things for the sake of his own needs the game is absolutely amazing worth every penny and all the time waiting I could play this over and over and if anyone needs therapy after this then they need to get a life a real one

[@TheFreshTrumpet]

wouldn’t necessarily say that it’s silly for ppl to get attached to Joel, playing as him 90% of the time will understandably get ppl attached to him but I think it sucks that some ppl couldn’t enjoy the game without him in it

[@richierewinds]

Part 2 is definitely gonna haunt me

[@abhimanyu9913]

These actors and actresses are the reason why neil is saved !!!

[@DarthVaizard]

I have zero issues with the acting. Literally none. Troy, Ashley, and Laura are all fantastic. The writing just doesn't hold up. ND had 3 masterclass actors at his beck and call and he and his team wrote the equivalent of macaroni art as a sequel to the Mona Lisa.

[@slayslay7962]

Hi smack please answer me this time how are you? Love your vids #smackempire

[@gabrielhuajardo7520]

Basically, the beginning of the video is ellie explaining ellie

[@KoujiInfected91]

Naah i’m not crying you’re crying

[@huh3221]

After actually playing the game and watching these videos it makes you realise the effort that was put into it. It’s a good game with good actors just not an amazing story but it’s okay. 1st is still better by a long shot.

[@ronaldragupathi952]

I was more angry over the ppl who were with Abby than Abby herself these ppl corrupted her mind. With Ellie you had Tommy who rightfully wants vengeance and Dina who wants a good life for her and Ellie. Abby is not the villain its her friends.

[@micacu23]

4:51 DON'T SAY YOUR NAMES!!! easy. That was so stupid...

[@lookatmyright]

lmao did u even listen to the video?

[@medorgaming26]

Well technically Tommy already told Abby both of their names before they even arrived to the house. So either way Joel was dead

[@nathanchristopher7770]

Looking in hindsight its very easy to say that. They were less cautious as they have been living in Jackson for a few years where they restored the humanity in people and began to trust others, living like civilised people, so they treated these strangers (Abby, Mel ect.) like normal people.

[@iherculian]

@@nathanchristopher7770 Why do they do those patrols exactly? Could you explain us please? Aren't there hunters around? After 21 years smuggling, deaths, cruelty and much so other. Few years in Jackson made them so naive to foreigners? Do you even remember interaction of Tommy and Joel at dam? Your comment and mindset is so pathetic.

[@clickycal]

@@iherculian so you not understand that people change over time in different circumstances and don't just stay the same forever?

[@Saibotwins]

Ellie ended up alone, Dina did not seem like she would put up with Ellie leaving. So it makes sense that Dina and JJ are gone.

[@pedropenaflor2984]

Dina didnt leave ellie, replay the game and you’ll see what i mean. You missed something at the end

[@pouria1254]

Who can ever fucking say this game is bad I'm not gonna defend just watch the video and if you didn't cry then come to replies and argue

[@justarandom6152]

The story is just bad but the acting is so good

[@rombe6680]

Its not a bad story,there are major flaws but the writing isnt bad

[@frankieplayzz8382]

I just wished they made the ending where Ellie would get revenge because in the end Ellie lost everything even her only connection to Joel which was the guitar and even Dina left her which I think sucked that they made Abby survive I do understand why they did that but still. It was still a pretty good story telling though.

[@ロロノアゾロ-h4m]

It's really sad how Troy Baker expressed his distate for the game's critics on his Twitter. I guess he can't see that most of those critics hated the fact that ND dirtied Joel, his character.

[@Unknown-yy3yo]

You're one of those nerds that are mad are joel death... He didn't deserve it but he had it coming, if you want a happy story then stick with Disney movies/games

[@danielmulhern6085]

Unknown yeh these guys are so annoying

[@AlexandraBlonker]

Troy said in his play through with Nolan north at one point that he was the one who actually brought up killing his character off. So if you’re going to blame anyone, blame Troy Baker himself. He had the idea to sacrifice his own character in the first place.

[@Unknown-yy3yo]

@@AlexandraBlonker Bro people complain about anything now adays. The story was still good, Joe had it coming.

[@sunnysied713]

@@Unknown-yy3yo Joel didn't deserve to die because of bad writing. Lol. Abby accidentally stumbles into him in the middle of the night, in the middle of the forest, in the middle of a blizzard, in the middle of a horde attack, in the middle of a mountain, in the middle of nowhere. That's major plot contrivance and convenience. Abby got her revenge because of dumb luck AND Joel was purely a victim of coincidence.

[@babayorgun6749]

sadness - suffering - silent Scream - wounds that will not heal very good development , very good graphics , abby very good characterization. But this game really really bad storyboard.

[@destinykid4171]

I'm with you the story wasn't good at all

[@callandor5865]

Still think humanity would have gone down the shitter even if they started developing a vaccine so I do believe Ellie would have died for exactly nothing in the end

[@Kiddo_williams]

The actors are amazing even though i can’t say the same about the game but it was good but definitely not a 10/10 game

[@Tht-mw1ek]

Yeah I agree it was a good game and it’s not a 3/10 game but still not a 10/10 I’d say it’s a 6-7/10

[@musicheartsrandoms4326]

Abby how dare you do my father like that, our father. :( good acting tho

[@vthelastrun3290]

My favorite game

[@Pred.]

You can't even make a cure for a fungal infection/virus like cordyceps, especially not through the process they had planned. Also, I thought it was heavily implied that ellie knew Joel lied, she's a smart no bullshit kid, and the way she reacted was also really weird. The acting is amazing and I appreciate the effort in the game but these characters just don't feel the same.

[@Datboyskr]

DLC NEEDED!!

[@mdnormatnor5226]

No dlc

[@gabriel2gg2ninja90]

Yes DLC

[@gabriel2gg2ninja90]

@@mdnormatnor5226 FU yes DLC

[@trickyick6676]

After what we got I think I'm good without a new one

[@danielgallegos5929]

Does anyone think there will be a part 3 or just end at 2? I hope theres a 3rd even tho Joel is gone ;/

[@TheDeadgedd]

If there is it will be a long time away Druckman got a real shock on just how the sequel was received by a huge section of the fan base he though it divisive not destructive he cant get us back so he has to make it for those that accept the way the franchise went but allow time for the shitstorm to subside

[@dutch_fenrir]

I have seen some rumors about a part 3 but, there is also a HBO series announced for TLOU

[@jamilhussain6503]

They should make a prequel for joel 20 years before meeting ellie. We can see how he coped after losing his daughter and falling out with Tommy. It'd also be cool to see how he met tess and how they became friends. IDK just a thought?

[@itzrepeerc5564]

they could make a twist in part 3 where the joel dying was just a dream and abby never existed it might not happen but you never know

[@aznreaper07]

This was a great game. I think a lot of the criticism of this game that I've seen stems from immaturity. People complain about how Joel and Ellie should have been, failing to ever understand who they really are. Like being upset at a movie star for not thinking the same as them.

[@li_B4shar_il]

Wow i didnt know the last of us 3 is out already! Get Kappa'd

[@aybanartworkz8902]

If joel did gave ellie no more game for us.

[@00dfm00]

Video was too bright. Couldn't make out what was going on. :-p

[@BorderHopper-hn2sc]

During the last conversation between Ellie and Joel if Ellie had said something like “I still love u dad” before she walked away I would’ve definitely cried so much. Personally I wish I could help out with some games because honestly small lines like that would make the scene so much more emotional and better and there were a lot of small things like that I could think of throughout both games.

[@mdnormatnor5226]

I thought the game about joel and Ellie but I was wrong I can accept Joel character is over but can't accept how his death A few more things Ellie still doesn't forgive Joel, The game just about relationships Although Joel wants consider Ellie his daughter, And Ellie doesn't consider Joel his father

[@daphnefisher361]

Why you put The Last of Us 3?? It's The Last of Us 2 :/

[@louisa1167]

Click bait that’s why. Can’t do anything else apparently.

[@allmightyjenkins]

haters need to watch this

[@you-5-iver804]

Don't confuse hate with using your brain. If a game is bad, then it is bad. This is a bad story game and the only good thing is the gameplay. So stop forcing us to like this trash

[@sgtmian]

nah, they can stay away. i don't care if they like it, i just want them to move on to shitting on the next thing that doesn't cater to their needs.

[@athanasiospapadopoulos6582]

@@you-5-iver804 the story, objectively speaking, is good; the main problem most people have (including myself who loves this game) is the pacing.

[@joaovitorcruz5133]

@@you-5-iver804 and you just stopped using your brain. It doesn't mean it's bad just because you didn't like it. Just get over it bro

[@pulpficti]

They won't change their mind no matter how often Troy and Neil say they love this character. They think they know Joel better than his creators. It's arrogance and ignorance. You don't have to like the game but at least the criticism should make sense. I read lazy writing and characters not acting right so often

[@tmzz-ghost5796]

So are they making part 3

[@rombe6680]

Element Hunter its not bad

[@lauralrs1136]

@Element Hunter I want to play as Abby. Shit... I'm nobody then ? :(

[@pauljachens4181]

They did everything backwards they did everything in the shittiest way possible though

[@rombe6680]

They didnt though...

[@pauljachens4181]

@@hectormujica9958 I agree with you on that the fact is that it's like they put there intire story in a blender

[@gothicmatter9123]

I just wanted them both to say I love you but they didn’t 😢

[@brd1391]

‪im waiting for part3 trailer everyday . After ending im always thinking about part2 . I finished it 3 weeks ago .I cant eat i cant sleep. Im having my hardest days of my entire life. please make part3 fast and we just want to play as ellie❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️and sometimes dina or tommy‬ . not abby🤮🤮💩

[@consciousa6145]

Lmao you are going to have to wait a while for the next it’s only been out for a month😅😂

[@brd1391]

Conscious A i know it will take a while but everyday im waiting

[@arias8855]

Talk to me in 2023 😂

[@brd1391]

Jesús St James i think part2 took so long because they didn’t work on it for a while because 7 years is a lot . I think they didn’t work on it for a while

[@brd1391]

HUNK - V i hope they make it in 3 years or 2 or .... not 6 or 7!!!!!

[@BigBoss-kn1yx]

You did it well my joel

[@Boyblunder2k9]

Doesn’t matter if the actors say they “had to do it.” The story was poor, a vanilla revenge plot, poorly paced and overall the most disappointing video game I’ve ever played in my life. Deep down the actors are not happy with what they did but unfortunately its a job which they are paid very well to do.

[@smoker5989]

I don't think all of them hate it but i very much doubt this is what they thought for a sequel of The Last of Us

[@Rollbrand370]

The story of the last of us part two is amazing just not with Abby. Abby was kind of pointless. I did enjoy some of her sections, but they introduced her like “here is a new character your playing as now. Now kill Joel!” When they could’ve done that later. Like have us built up love for Abby before killing off Joel like that. And even though I like Lev I feel he would have been better with Ellie. Giving Ellie another propose to protect Lev or JJ if they want to do the same thing again with Ellie being a mother figure to either kid.

[@EonServoXA]

Abby’s section was not pointless at all, it was necessary for Abby’s development and arc because a lot of things wouldn’t make sense without seeing Abby’s background

[@Rollbrand370]

@@EonServoXA don't care series is dead to me.

[@TheStarkz]

The Last of Us Part 3 isn't happening, y'all!

[@T3AMKILL]

And why do you think that

[@Roebuck325]

I realized that Ellie can't play the guitar well at the end because she's out of practice, not because she's missing her fingers. I never noticed that the first time, I just assumed, it's so much more poetic this way. None of us realized how long it had been since she played it.

[@chrisguzman3090]

once you learn how to play the guitar, that knowledge never leaves you. its almost like riding a bike, so really you don't have to look deep into it. she couldn't play because she lost two of her fingers thus losing her only connection left with joel. (also its not like you can play the same way after losing two fingers lol dats just not possible)

[@pedropenaflor2984]

Clever Name she can easily flip the guitar over and learn to play with her right hand 🤦🏽‍♂️ you really thought you were going somewhere with this lol

[@Roebuck325]

@@chrisguzman3090 Why would her missing fingers mute the strings, think about it. She stopped playing for a year or more. As someone who's played guitar for 15 years I can tell you this is probably true. At least I think so. It's also more poetic this way I think.

[@mewgiah8057]

This scene made no sense, and kind of ruins the ending to part 1. The way Ellie acts at the end of the first game is that she knows Joel is lying - but as long as he tells her the lie, she accepts it because she knows Joel couldn’t lose her. In Part 2 they act as if that never happened, and Ellie is suddenly growing distant from Joel because she’s blind sided by it. Literally makes no sense and shows how much part 2 was written to re-shape the original plot. The fact is, the brilliant thing about Part 1 is that Joel did a horrible act. But he did so out of survival because he couldn’t live with losing his daughter again. He would have killed him self. The game opens with the military killing his baby girl. Now society is asking to take his daughter all over again - and this time he’s not willing to let that happen. So he takes the selfish act to survive. In a world that is completely ruthless (even the fireflies were fine with murdering people for their cause), Joel condemned society the same way society’s institutions had condemned him in the beginning. Point being, we as an audience know he did something immoral and awful. Ellie knows this as well. But she accepts it because she loves Joel and understands he did what he did to survive. This scene really cheapens that. Part 2 also tries to over simplify things, and sell us on this idea that Joel is a really bad guy. Like even worse then most (in a Post apocalyptic world full of ravaging psychos). They do this, to justify what they did to him and it just feels so cheap. Yeah Joel is a bad guy, but everyone in that world is a bad guy.

[@jamilhussain6503]

I took the time to read that... Well fucking said👏

[@destinykid4171]

They did Joel dirty in this game🤦🏾‍♂️

[@smoker5989]

They basically spited on his corpse and say they respected the character

[@jnd933]

neil cuckmann : "dont get attached to videogame characters"

[@assassinscreedzack2504]

Fungus don't have vaccine

[@SaberRexZealot]

Is Last of Us 3 in the title of the video just for views?

[@preciouspayne3188]

I think is only 4 the ps5 I don't know

[@kilroy987]

Don't even talk about Last of Us 3. I hope people let that game get vetted through trusted reviewers before they even think about spending money on it.

[@pedropenaflor2984]

Dont buy it if it comes out then. If you didnt like the story then go play a different game, simple 😂

[@koryrobles3045]

😂😂😂😂😂.. Play Ghost Of Tsushima!!

[@younanbarberoraha5517]

Last of us was my favorite game but nope I prefer uncharted

[@rogertemple7193]

But if Joel hadn't rescued and saved Ellie from death she and Dina wouldn't have met and became well a couple and have one another and Joel was accepting of Ellie and Dina and hoping for a relationship between Ellie and Dina and them being happy together so Joel was selfish in what he did but there would be no Ellie and Dina but there is.

[@thp8485]

I still don't understand why they let Tommy and Ellie live

[@EonServoXA]

Remember in the cutscene of Joel’s death they were fighting over whether to let Tommy and Ellie live but Abby came in and basically just said, we’re done. we did what we came here to do. nothing else. let’s just gtfo of here

[@مروانالتميمي2]

RIP the last of us part 2 What a disaster and a mess The last of us part 1 is a history of the gaming Industry