MrGirl Own Fans Confront Him About Destiny

[@Rallylabs]

To be clear. This is all, 100 percent only about MrGirl getting banned from Destiny’s subreddit. He literally turned on a dime when it became apparent that Destiny wasn’t going to preference him above his moderators. It is just revenge, lamely disguised as moral crusading.

[@MelissaM83]

Point blank PERIOD!!!!

[@Alisha1686]

That is the way I saw this situation play out. Literally in real time 😐

[@ahsoka6807]

He's jelly plain and simple

[@martincerny3294]

You just don't understand how Reddit is important to many people which is kinda racist but also transphobic and incredibly misogynistic and you're probably an abuser just like your emperor Destiny.

[@gabrielparanormalchildhood7559]

I think mr.girl had a point

[@averageandy7331]

This season is reaching its boiling point. So hyped for the article arc

[@ImortalZeus13]

The article will be a wet fart.

[@kongeethegod]

What about the tournament arc every good anime especially ones based in highschool drama and brutal combat action sense needs a tournament arc

[@theonlyonewithgum1452]

@@kongeethegod Was that arguably the orbiter civil war that happened a while back?

[@kongeethegod]

@@theonlyonewithgum1452 civil wars are civil wars and tournaments are tournament I need the official release is it even out in Japan yey

[@blackhat4206]

@@theonlyonewithgum1452 That was the war arc.

[@sophiesong8937]

29:47 "Telling somebody that they didn't feel what they felt" ...isn't mrgirl ALWAYS telling other people what their feelings and motives are? He is always gaslighting.

[@TheFatalcrest]

True, He doesn't even phrase ot as a question, he just kinda says it. And whenever he does it always feels like a psych major is analyzing you solely to argue with someone else who is in the room.

[@rustyphoenixarts9454]

​@TheFatalcrest and he argues with them about their feelings until they agree with him or just drop it, at which point he declares he was correct. 🙄

[@TheFatalcrest]

@@rustyphoenixarts9454 honestly that's the rough part for me. When it's not like "he's interpreting your emotional state and trying to pull back the stick" Nope he's script reading your emotions and trying to then act as your voice. Creeps me out.

[@iz2333]

​@@TheFatalcrest I mean he has hinted at some kind of psych background before so I wouldn't be surprised if that was actually the case.

[@filonome]

if you have any suggestions for examples of this, please link! i am compiling clips of these sort of instances from max.

[@averageandy7331]

"Calling someone a rapist just because you're upset is crazy" A much healthier response is to let it consume your whole life for months and write a 5000 word article about how Destiny is a serial sexual abuser because you're upset he didn't cave to your demands about reddit moderation. Based.

[@blazikenowen]

next mr girl will claim destiny pisses out his fingers and shits out his toes all mr girl does is spout insane shit

[@lordfifth3106]

It’s not just 5k words is it?

[@amandaspear6148]

50 50,000 fucking words, the creepy fucker said.

[@henry3441]

@@lordfifth3106 pretty sure it was 50k lmao

[@averageandy7331]

My lord 50k......say what you want, this man is truly dedicated to his delusions

[@albertosingsattimes]

It's crazy how he's still this mad over a subreddit ban lmao

[@narutofan4545]

@@asmovandeus Obama is cool during ai voice

[@nekogarou7474]

Average reddit users

[@ulysses7653]

​@@asmovandeus And then he proceeded to make America great again, and it was all to rub it in Obama's face 😃

[@Boyslim826]

@@ulysses7653 trump DIVIDED the UNITED states lol

[@24.7SMOKESHOW]

😂😂😂

[@LeCinemaDeMerde]

Mr Girl when Lav is being transphobic: “I guess she did a little bit of a transphobia or whatever.” Mr Girl when Destiny calls lav Mid: “In the history of all sexual abuse this may be the worst thing to ever happen.”

[@TecTitan]

If anyone believed half the things Lav or Max says you'd have to imagine Destiny is some kind of dangerous individual that shouldn't be free. They're complete loons. And it's obvious they have nothing real to say with all of the hyperbole.

[@ImortalZeus13]

Let’s be real. Trying to pin someone on being “transphobic” is pretty lame.

[@Mrraerae]

​@@ImortalZeus13 Lav is obviously and blatantly transphobic, what? She basically straight up called Zonia a man

[@frankmarano1118]

"YoU rEmEmBeR tHe PoWeR dIfFeReNtIaL?" Oh god what a whiny b****** lol. Mr girl, the ultimate lav simp

[@LeCinemaDeMerde]

@@frankmarano1118 oh my god… how could I forget! Let’s get out pitchforks gents

[@pete6300]

Destiny really needs to emphasize how both max and lav use " I feel" to make descriptions of reality.

[@GolemkingTK]

He mentioned that majorly last time he confronted lav recently on a panel

[@noobslayer1196]

braindead pedantic bullshit take tbh

[@colinchristensen4398]

This so much this it’s the craziest shit they say things like “I feel like your completely abusive by you not asking if I’m ok and checking on me every two seconds your abusive to all your orbits” like bro the mental jump from what the Sentence should be to how it comes out like he means “I feel emotionally abused” but he says everyone is being abused and you know it like it’s fucking crazy the gas lighting the manipulation honestly I get why destiny engages

[@robertgrey1377]

Not a defense but I use “I feel” statements way too often. Can’t help it. It’s just a personality thing. some of us are more likely to use I feel statements or I think statements, or “i know” etc. that by itself doesn’t mean your irrational.

[@wuzillah]

He only does it constantly.

[@AnubisEternally]

I like how Max continues to be Destiny's biggest orbiter while pretending to not be an orbiter. The mental gymnastics are just Olympic level at this point.

[@kingrainbow5432]

He's like The Asteroid Belt

[@retrobluemusic]

destiny livin rent free in his head

[@shizzlepecks]

Facts

[@shizzlepecks]

Facts

[@JINX1441]

Bro knows the whole lore

[@theluchakabuto5206]

It’s wild how Max has found himself in this position to where if you literally apply the standard he is applying to others to him, it all falls apart.

[@MyopicTurtle]

Well you see, Max doesn't have power. Therefore he can't be held accountable for any of his actions.

[@Nyles_FS]

He was in this position before he started putting out content on KZbin. He's incredible at rationalizing literally anything which makes him think he's exceptionally smart. He came in this space thinking he'd just outsmart everyone but once you listen to him repeatedly, you start noticing the holes. At this point I think he doesn't really care and has these conversations as exercices of his enormous ego. That one dude summarized it pretty well, after he's done with this, his presence is basically wiped from the internet.

[@MrVirtuezzz]

the ultimate power play is to not read the article at all and give no attention to it. imagine... 50,000 words and only his 7 fans read it

[@gamerGUY3013]

Yea that'd be funny as hell but streamers like Chud, Stardust, WickedSupreme, and Zonia are definitely going to go over it and is likely to be the discourse of the week. Unless Destiny is able to ignore all the inevitable panels, he's gonna have to go over it.

[@noobslayer1196]

yeah wouldn't it be hilarious if destiny's fans just blindly bandwagon? LOL. SO TRUE!

[@gerrywallington]

@@noobslayer1196 cringe

[@shirafudee]

@@noobslayer1196 ?

[@abrosis2768]

If you seen his subreddit at all you'd see Destiny's fans are obsessed with the ongoings of what MrGirl is up to. Destiny could never speak Max's name again but his community will read the article.

[@casualdecade]

This guy’s problem is that he’s a weirdo and he sees himself as a nerdy underdog, so he think he’s morally righteous to “stand up” for himself any time anyone disagrees with him

[@ameliekk]

It sounded like he was implying that he's more normal than destiny

[@735337707]

Aka whiteknight

[@noobslayer1196]

no, he doesn't. he got cancelled just like they tried to get destiny cancelled and tbh Destiny is coping hard as fuck and acting like he doesn't give a shit while at the same time following the manifesto to the end lmao.

[@neildepressedtyson540]

AND he has a girl's name

[@IfGodisforuswhocanbeagainstus]

@@noobslayer1196 ok

[@ImortalZeus13]

It’s incredible how quickly Max turns on his own fan just because he provides the lightest push back.

[@sang2582]

sounds like hasan tbh xD

[@OpiatesAndTits]

Nah dude was pretty snarky/aggressive. Kinda stumbled around and made little sense in some sad mimicry of Max’s warped version of psychology. Max actually let it go on longer than I expected because I saw the dude post to the subreddit to bitch.

[@undeadman7676]

A certain streamer or 3 might call it... Abusive...

[@KissSlowlyLoveDeeply-pm2je]

Sort of like how Destiny permanently bans people for light criticism on reddit.

[@SirZipper]

Morons like him whine so much about abuse but never realize they're doing it to themselves. He just keeps digging his hole deeper because he doesn't want to be wrong. If the article is 50 pages long it has to be filled with literal chapters that are just metaphors and manipulative word games that will just reek of desperation.

[@beterrick2012]

Mrgirl is truly one of the abused of all time.

[@chuck9483]

It's like the holocaust all over again

[@patty40897]

Chronic victim disease

[@martincerny3294]

You guys are so smart behind your keyboards but try living with Steven Bonell II., in your head 24/7

[@chuck9483]

@@martincerny3294 ^this but not sarcastically

[@noobslayer1196]

poor destiny. can't even say the n word :(((

[@WazzyBoy]

It's still so insane to me how fast this guy went from good friend of the stream to what he is today

[@bau9894]

it was surreal, i remember reading comments like "max is a weirdo but hes alright" lmao

[@frankmarano1118]

I agree but in hindsight it's not surprising. "You can trust me destiny, I won't backstab you. Love you buddy"

[@Stop_Gooning]

@@bau9894 Nah the fact that people _liked_ MrCreep was surreal; talking to the Cuties Creep was a wild decision from Destiny.

[@theonlyonewithgum1452]

Is it though? I feel like he was that volatile friend someone has that does wild stuff, but the person stays friends with them because they haven’t done that ish to them. But then everyone is surprised when that volatility is turned against that person?

[@WazzyBoy]

@@theonlyonewithgum1452 maybe I was hit with the mind control, but i thought he had a good thing going with destiny

[@Odinshi]

I've listened a fair bit to Sam Vaknins videos ever since he had that hilarious interview with Mrgirl, where Mrgirl tried to make him (a world leading expert on npd) diagnose Stephen with npd, and instead ended up unwittingly describing Mrgirl in uncanny detail. I have to say, with every passing day Mrgirl having npd seems more and more obvious. When Sam Vaknin talks about narcissists relationships, he says they create a "shared fantasy" with their partner, and when you look at how Shaelin believes in Mrgirls conspiracy theories even more than Mrgirl does himself it's really quite fascinating in a way

[@Stop_Gooning]

I dated an NPD girl a couple of years ago and she was OBSESSED with "proving" that _other people_ were narcissists. "I'm always right. I'm always IN the right. Everything bad that happens is somebody's *fault.* Everyone else are narcissists and they're all conspiring against ME!"

[@dukedematteo1995]

Vaknin is a quack anyway...

[@dudestolemyname69]

​@@Stop_Gooning lemme guess, she claimed she was an empath too

[@addie1080]

I don't understand how you can be a mr girl fan at this point lol

[@TheAsureDark]

for the same reason people love serial killers LOL

[@wren4077]

I've seen some of the bigger fans, and they're pretty unhinged themselves.

[@addie1080]

@@wren4077 I really liked him before the subreddit drama, I can see there only being unhinged weirdos left tbh

[@andrewnguyen4801]

The same people that like Cuties

[@mishamerabishvili8126]

the normal Mrgirl is genuinely an interesting person with an intriguing way of thinking. When you get to know him tho you realize thats just him on the good days, the victim Mrgirl is the most insufferable person ever, and hes been playing the victim for a while nonstop now

[@OneRedKraken]

Turning a subreddit ban into this kind of drama takes skill.

[@shortymccutlery8919]

Or no life.

[@OneRedKraken]

@@shortymccutlery8919 Probably both.

[@andrejjelcic3675]

Steven playing They are Billions while Mr. Girl is talking about his career-ending plans is glorious irony. GLORIOUS!

[@theluchakabuto5206]

His career already ended

[@wazer2235]

@@theluchakabuto5206 not even remotely but go off lil bro

[@C3Rl3]

@@theluchakabuto5206 found the factorio fan

[@kanekiken2376]

​@@wazer2235You still have a lil of him on your lip

[@EE-jp5ev]

​@@kanekiken2376 better than having the kids locked in the basement like Max does lmao

[@olemanyounger5040]

To correct Mr.Girl, Lav said she didn't know if Destiny was abusive to her. Seems she's waiting for the article so Mr.Girl can tell her how she feels.

[@harryb12993]

Actually she now claims hes a serial abuser and that she has been a victim of it many times. Just another walk-back.

[@kckc0]

It’s so insane how he sounds so sure of himself but is already wrong about so much.

[@nocuh]

When someone devotes 50,000 words to establishing a pattern of chronic behavior, it better amount to more than righteously yelling at clouds for the displeasing shapes they take

[@toddsullivan1949]

Shapes like chicken and waffles? True

[@robinthrush9672]

Bet there are going to be pages devoted to insults with barely any context. Like, years after any sort of relationship, he gets insulted and asked about it and that gets quoted. Like the "mid jÉwish pÜssy" from around 30 mins into the video.

[@Krapahirlin]

it ended up being over 100,000

[@JRHawker12]

55:48 idk what mr girl is confused by this is literally Mr. Girl's stance. Mr Girl thinks lav leaking Destiny's sexual details is standard practice in the space. And Mr Girl thinks that Destiny responding angrily at Lav after she breached Destiny's privacy is horrible abuse.

[@platosghost6916]

This. I'm glad someone did the timestamp... Mr. Girls pause while saying that out loud is so telling. I think he might have just realized how ridiculous he sounds in real-time. He had no choice but to try and make that sound like nonesense...

[@MrLusterFury]

Bro it is INSANE how she leaked DM's with destiny on discord to max but watching destiny read his texts with her im like "there is no way these are the DM's she leaked to max these make her look so bad".

[@pete6300]

Max really is just massively projecting. His community is full of cultish defenders. They have all conveniently forgotten all the promises max made about how he would conduct himself.

[@SirZipper]

I find what makes his demeanor funnier is how Destiny can practically read him like a book and guess his next words exactly.

[@KryptonianChaos1]

This is important guys. I'm glad we've all gathered here

[@nwgverified]

For sexualising minors? Wait what was he doing in his cuties review then?

[@Stop_Gooning]

@WahWah02 Right, so he's just WATCHING it. Multiple times, for a review where he says it was hot. Where's the FBI when you need them?

[@kauswekazilimani3736]

​@WahWah02 He got turned on by it. Why?

[@theluchakabuto5206]

57:04 Max going on this rant was like the time Vowsh said “teaching philosophy terms to zoomers online has lead to a substantial increase in people making bad arguments using bigger words” Literally just described himself haha

[@Stop_Gooning]

A rare "agree" from me with voosh, philosophy can make you dumber. There are just some things you don't need to think about all that deeply, and you can draw some whacky conclusions about stuff.

[@LJboochaa]

Destiny has said the same thing multiple times and it’s pretty true tbf

[@theluchakabuto5206]

@@Stop_Gooning Big agree but look no further that Veesh himself for the best example, that's why I brought it up. Because Max is also right about saying things in a certain tone to make them sound wrong, it's ironic because he does a lot of that

[@knes167]

​@@theluchakabuto5206 Oh my GAWD nothing makes me audibly real world "wwwwwWHAT" Louder than when some pseudo-intellectual poser like Vosh, Lav, DemonMoma or Hasan goes on a rant criticizing someones toxicity or underhandedness-- And they say shit that directly applies to themselves and how they commonly act on stream. Like holy shit. "hi pot, I'm kettle. You're black." Jeezus, it's so annoying

[@patrickduncan6332]

I love listening to the videos during work it’s fire 😂😂

[@cashcash4280]

Must be nice being mr gaslight, living in a world in which no action you take can ever be wrong

[@conot4006]

The text messages prove Lav was watch Destiny almost a year before joining his stream even though she just said last week she didn't know what she was getting into and didn't know about Big Tech because she never watched his stream before. That's two lies debunked by just one text message. I wonder if she even knows how to tell the truth at this point.

[@Stop_Gooning]

Xanny Barz

[@ladrok97]

Honestly I don't get why Destiny was sleeping with so crazy person (or it's normal way of sexting?). Is she hot or what?

[@tpolutts3309]

There are old videos of her admitting to being a compulsive liar. It takes an inordinate amount of memory/intelligence to juggle lies. She probably has no clue what she lied about and when

[@CDLightt]

How tf does he have fans?

[@SOFAYGOCLIPS]

Basement dwellers are his fans

[@godsstrongestschizo]

Contrarians and a desperate desire to double down

[@jansmycka4338]

Enemy of my enemy is my friend. I think people just really like hating Destiny.

[@travelerfinder7840]

Maps

[@medusa-frost]

I liked him when he was funny and edgy and not weird personal drama scooper

[@ImortalZeus13]

It’s incredible how every single MG fan has the same emotionally stunted awkward man child intonation that he does

[@billyandersen2570]

Dude I'm pumped for this report. I hope there's an audio book format for all 150 paged. Maybe Morgan freeman can do it then max can feel like God's reading it to us.

[@gabrielmcnair1895]

Max has been working and hyping this article for months right, what if it comes out and there's like nothing interesting that comes out of it and no one really cared that would be the funniest thing.

[@morgangreen2601]

Thats the expectation

[@wren4077]

That is what's happening brother

[@RS-fy9hb]

This is exactly what's going to happen. Maybe there's some surprises to anyone outside looking in to the old Destiny drama, but to anyone who's been watching Destiny, especially since the old drama got concluded, I'll be incredibly surprised if anything new even surfaces. Mrgirl is just going to try and frame some shit out of context, and spin shit. But it'll fall apart when any scrutiny or context is applied at all.

[@lawrence4301]

At this point its either he really does have some unique stuff to dredge up or else its going to be essentially a longer version of a kiwifarms or encyclopedia dramatica page.

[@fantasyskeep]

It must be nice to live rent-free in so many people's minds.

[@kenonerboy]

How. All it leads to is cringe

[@timetotalktitanic7381]

Hearing my own voice whilst listening to a Destiny stream is wild…

[@noturnleftunstoned72]

This whole online reality is beyond psychopathy but Max has almost all the psychopathic PCL-R inventory (19 out of 20) as well as the PPL. The shadow effect alone of Max and Destiny to be honest is unreal.

[@pete6300]

@1:15:12. "The power differential" doesn't explain lav shitting on smaller creators in panels then trying to blame destiny when they try to criticize her. The smaller creators don't have more power and aren't destiny

[@Wesker3996]

Can't wait for this "Catcher in the Rape" by Max Carson to come out, me never reading it and continuing to touch grass cause I'm not a weirdo.

[@ShinyFood]

and having a great profile pic

[@Anfallhund]

You gotta understand anything they say is based on truth and reality. But its also just their feelings so no proof is required.

[@Monsteroflopogis]

I'm totally ready for the head spinning drop of an article that is the exact opposite of what everyone assumes it to be and Mr.Girl was just playing into the role of a bad guy to subvert expectations. We'll come to find out that the article is actually just a love letter detailing how great of a person he thinks Destiny actually is and this hate-crusade was all just a weird experiment to help boost Destiny by providing hours and hours of content to him for free as a way to say "Thank you" for Max's streaming career.

[@jamessgames1156]

If that happens I'm never using the internet again

[@purples2765]

Unironically the best outcome, Max revising entire article as we speak

[@testcase6997]

Just one sentence. ‘I told you I’d never betray you’

[@magganon]

kino

[@knes167]

​@@testcase6997 Yooooooo now THAT would be legendary haha. Callback to their first talk, I would lose my shit if this is the timeline we're on

[@bingbongbobby3341]

The lesson I learned from Destiny reading those messages with Lav is that Destiny is the king of ignoring red flags

[@z144p]

Mr girl is like that t-shirt that says "You laugh at me because im different, i laugh because you are all the same"

[@Demyk7]

Imagine needing 50,000 words just to prove that Destiny is a girl's name.

[@noobslayer1196]

imagine thinking there is nothing there just because you are dick riding lol

[@Demyk7]

@@noobslayer1196 Are you lost? Or are you just illiterate?

[@ghostchaos]

That's quite impossible. We would need a 10,000 word essay and maybe... JUST MAYBE... I'll consider Destiny's a girl name

[@Timhttrsn]

Calling it right now, MrGirl is gonna have anonymous witnesses with crazy acusations

[@ShattMayne]

I'm learning that pretty much any degrading or deplorable action is ok if you do it, but if other people do it 😡😡😡😡😡

[@MrKilltastic]

Mr. Girl seems like the kind of guy that got bullied in school, but nobody felt bad for him....

[@genseric3031]

more accurately, he seems like the kind of kid who gets bullied, then people feel sorry for him, and he turns around and bullies the people for feeling bad for him.

[@gamerGUY3013]

MrGirl may not be fit for the online world but he'd make a great a president/emperor of the world. He knows exactly how people think and has the answers to solve every problem, even the non-existent ones. He is also *never* wrong. Every mistake he makes is always someone else's mistake that he empaths himself into. The guy is also extremely determined, like a pitbull at the park during the summer. He makes whatever he's biting down on his life's mission because it very well might save an unknown number of people's lives. He's a hero.

[@lordteensie6156]

He has no real understanding, but he is persuasive and a massive manipulator. Having him in charge of a country is a truly frightening thought

[@asimplewizard]

​@@lordteensie6156 you just don't understand heroism.

[@blackhat4206]

You're describing a God more than an Emperor President.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

​@@blackhat4206 Some type of God-Emperor figure that leads all of humanity in a totally not fascistic dystopian society perhaps?

[@blackhat4206]

@@haruhirogrimgar6047 Just another nonexistent one, I guess.

[@midnight_commander]

It would be so funny if the article comes out, and no one even notices. No ones gives enough a shit to even give it the time of day. I think that would probably be the most demoralizing blow to Max.

[@YoyoDevo]

It's hard to feel sympathy for destiny when you know he loves all this

[@SB-se7vb]

So you have more sympathy for people who feign or heavily lean into their victimhood arc? Weird flex but alright.

[@jakobwashington5878]

@@SB-se7vb the problem is that with a situation like this, where both of these people were so obviously loose canons and everyone said so, when you introduce the fact that he actually enjoys situations like this it starts to seem like this is what he wanted to happen. It’s like if someone told you that they like getting beat up and they walk out at night in a dangerous neighborhood talking shit to people and later you find out that they got beat up. It kinda sucks that people beat him up but you can only feel so bad for the guy

[@seanbardwell2067]

The point of this isn’t to feel sorry for destiny but to hate on max and god it’s fun

[@Laura-xn8mi]

When you think the situation can't get any more twisted, it does.

[@jChocoKettle]

Couldn't hear a word of caller two over all the slurping and gagging

[@andreaven2287]

One day, we are going to learn about the suicide of Shaelin. How ? In the brand new book/essai by Mr Girl : "Abuse from the grave : how my ex girlfriend killed herself to assure her emotional power over me and hurt my feelings.".

[@danielnelson3136]

Although it's complicated to know who's a Narcissist when there are so many factors that make them relative in degree and not kind. For example, based on the Spiral Dynamics modal of stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types and traits of Myers Briggs personality traits and the Big Five psychology modal, Nine stages of ego development by Jane Loevinger, life experiences and other lines of development in different domains of life (Integral Theory by Ken Wilbur), and meta programming of what ideologies are indoctrinated and what beliefs are imprinted into the mind about one's world and other people (NLP), we end up with a distorted view and corrupted meanings of what makes a Narcissist a Narcissist. Plus the effects of the internet's increases in Narcissism and neurosis already confounds the issue even more. Nevertheless, interesting case study of propaganda and narrative warfare looks like when done by two people and not at the national level.

[@heatherlynn4652]

Its like mrgirl is way overcorrecting normal human behaviors to deflect from his own weirdness towards women

[@cogitoergosum9069]

Bro, Max must be procrastinating the release of this article more I am my homework lol

[@trokolisz3702]

Wait, what cult wants their followers to think they are part of a cult? Isn't it like one of the most basic thing, is to tell them, "no this is not a cult"

[@Stop_Gooning]

Cults tend to have a "whale economy" business model; you have a bunch of low level members who don't realize they're in a cult, and whales who go all in. The cappos/lieutenants need to know what's going on in order to help run the place.

[@trokolisz3702]

@@Stop_Gooning i guess that is true, but Mr Girl was talking about viewers, and people on reddit. I assume they would count as low level member.

[@TophinatorStreams]

24:34 Wrong, Max! Cult leaders, smart ones, never tell members they’re in a cult. Know how they get them to act “normal”? They tell members they’re “family”, that this “family” should come before anyone else in their lives. Kind of like Mr. Girl calling Lav his daughter… Kinda sus, “fam”.

[@HaraQuinn]

37:00 youd never call someone “mid” anything.. ok cool.. but you would and HAVE heavily implied being straight out attracted to children as young as 10-12.. youd never defend yourself with a mean name, but you HAVE giddily made videos and going on past panels being extremely contrarion for sake of being contrarion, and making many feel EXTREMELY uncomfortable.. youd never call anyone a “mid” anything, but you would make extremely manipulative assertions and make videos of your gf crying.. volume at highest.. laughing.. Make It Make Sense Max.

[@longbeard1434]

Qq141

[@HaraQuinn]

@@longbeard1434 im sorry, i mustve forgotten my code cypher at home.. come again?

[@HIRVIism]

Hey editor, would it be possible to get a timestamp to skip the intro? Thanks.

[@Ggver]

Wow that was pretty abusive from max to kick that guy off the call. Total abuse of his power as the bigger streamer

[@timetotalktitanic7381]

I am that caller and I literally feel abused. LITERALLY. Gonna write an article about being kicked from the call.

[@neighbourhoodmusician]

58:30 - Is this Napoleon Dynamite on stream?

[@zacharychristy8928]

In the amount of time he's taken to complain about this, he could have set up an alt account like the rest of us who got banned from the subreddit.

[@MrJpc1234]

The biggest clue for Mr Girl should be why aren't all of Destiny's political enemies aren't rallying behind his article.....if there was value to it they would be lining up

[@objakobe]

I love how Destiny is the abusive person, but yet every person that called in sounded like a scared abuse victim worried to set Max off 😂

[@alexander4566]

Ive been repeating that quote for years had no idea it was absorbed from men in black during my childhood.

[@TheUcHiHaMaD]

No way mrgirl has fans. What content does he make??

[@barryhill2836]

Sooo when it finally comes out, legal action to sue for libel?

[@RS-fy9hb]

Could do to get the statements retracted, but you'd have to prove damages, and there's no way anyone even believes mrgirl or lav at this point.

[@barryhill2836]

@@RS-fy9hb that's true. Either way this looks like it's staring at madam legal action begging her to get involved.

[@MelissaM83]

🤔

[@toddsullivan1949]

If u follow the timeline this aligns perfectly w/ when Max got his 4 and 5 booster which clearly caused a blood clot that went to brain. This has made him suffer from erectile dysfunction and therefore has prevented him from engaging w/ his sex doll/ girlfriend. These emotions have manifested into first jealousy and then rage at 1st reddit and then 4thot for obvious reasons and now destiny which is a women's name. The combination of phizer, moderna along w/ chicken and waffles can be deadly and should be thoroughly investigated by the NSA. SUP HOMIES ✌️ Love u chat

[@jamsteroffthewheel4731]

Am I the only one that clicks these, hears me girls voice once and quits after less than a minute? Yw for the comment and the view Stephen keep farming us clowns

[@Stop_Gooning]

You're stronger than me, I stick around to scroll through the comments.

[@daniellong7926]

You would think that eventually this guy would be like "hmmm. My entire life I've alienated friends and family and keep destroying my career. Maybe it's not everyone. Maybe I'm somewhat to blame. " but what do I know. 🙃

[@gamerGUY3013]

1:13:55 why won't he just say why he disagrees to prove the caller wrong? And remember that Max tweet where he said something like "if someone says 'by that logic' everything past that is bs" :) Edit: found the tweet "When someone starts a sentence with *"by that logic,"* get out your stupidity umbrella." -MrGirlReturns

[@timetotalktitanic7381]

I’m the first caller, and also, Max didn’t do it because he’s a coward that has backed himself into a corner - thanks for finding that tweet! Totally forgot about that

[@Deebles.]

Destiny typing like he’s about to diffuse a bomb

[@FaylunaRaRa]

To be clear, 50,000 words is the length of like a short novel... But he has I guess crossed from novella length to novel length with his article on Destiny...

[@trokolisz3702]

Im pretty sure they wanted Lav to make that statment BEFORE Destniny joined the call, like im not sure if Mr. Girl is deliberetly fukcing up the timeline, but bro....

[@oxkit0katxo413]

I thought it was only the one guy (I forgot his name) that asked Lav to exonerate Destiny of anything she personally felt he did right. Or something like that anyways. I don’t remember the others asking for that & I certainly don’t remember anyone asking her to sign a statement saying as much. Maybe I’m the one misremembering though.

[@Seaneey]

Imagine living rent-free in someone's mind this badly. Holy yikes.

[@swayne1441]

There is no way destiny was ever actually friends with this guy. He's just generally so terrible. It's not even a matter of the content of his statements it's how he acts in general. It had to have been only for content

[@Stop_Gooning]

You'd think that, but it turns out our girl Dest is ALSO socially retarded.

[@Dielawn69]

1:32:41 this shit bothers me. I see this a lot with online content creators. "Theres a dual narrative. Some people say one thing and others say another thing" like no shit people arent a fucking monolith. These people always use this as an excuse to how they will get hate no matter what. Or they will use it like a gotcha like Max is doing. What does the audience have two different narratives have to do with literally anything? He acts as if everyone is claiming both things and not two different sides claiming two different things.

[@shman5000o]

Ya know, given how Mr.Girl REALLY likes to convey how much his world-view is the most "truthful" and how he's hella stubborn to be reasoned with, I kinda wish he was somehow able to be the one with a bigger following and a bigger position of influence in all of this. I know this sounds crazy/dumb, but I think that'd be a way to really have Mr.Girl forced to be confronted with how faulty/fucked his way of thinking is. Because ATM we can all see MrGirl is riding real hard how he's the "little guy" in all of this and how he uses that element to justify his "logic" and suspicions. I'm willing to bet if MrGirl was the larger online figure he'd be the one to ACTUALLY do more or less everything he's accusing Destiny of, sexual in nature or not. Idk man it's just lame now how MrGirl reached a point where he approaches arguments about this matter like he's "that kid" in elementary school who would always come up with bs counters for everything in imaginary play fights during recess lol

[@theluchakabuto5206]

Hearing delayed Steven from the background, what the Mel?

[@allen7520]

The Max & Lav echosphere continues to get louder Lmao

[@TooZooted]

Imagine letting your entire life be consumed by someone because they banned you from their subreddit 😂

[@JohnDoe-kn7ex]

When Lav was talking to the Nazi guy, Destiny really should have fired her. That would be the responsible thing to do according to Max.

[@jacobkessler3625]

The article is actually good for destiny. It will push those out of the community that are not Wanted

[@theonlyonewithgum1452]

It’s also like an inoculation that benefits him whether or not the “allegations” are real or not. If you’re gonna shoot, don’t miss imo.

[@gerrywallington]

I almost feel sorry for Max. He’s not ready for what’s about to happen to him

[@horgecondaliza6644]

What’s about to happen? I hope a living hell.

[@theshippingforecast2852]

The worst thing that could happen to Max is nothing, irrelevence.

[@Stop_Gooning]

@@theshippingforecast2852 I'd be pretty happy if we could lock him up for something. The Cuties Creep shouldn't just be free like that

[@lordteensie6156]

I think when you unsettle a boulder and it rolls on to your foot that didn't happen to you, he's doing this to himself

[@Nigjutsu]

At 30:40 im pretty sure the guy that leaked the Fappening was put in jail lol

[@negatorxx]

Whats the TLDR on this guy? He has an issue with destiny's sex life and got cringey about it?

[@sephuris5555]

This is all over a band off of dgg for like a week or so, so now he's going around trying to claim destiny is a serial abuser of some sort

[@rockbark2137]

He got banned on reddit, and then got big mad about it

[@Slamstarproductions]

The TLDR sounds like a joke but it's true, lol

[@autboi9369]

Destiny decided he needs to have more close friendships. So he chose this walking talking red flag of a guy for that role.

[@RS-fy9hb]

​@@autboi9369 not quite the framing xD. Destiny just enjoys crazies, and what everyone knew was gonna happen, happened, including Destiny. Both Lav and Mrgirl were obvious time bombs.

[@jakwnd]

the summary is TWO PAGES? I've read technical white papers that can condense complex scientific topics into a half page summary

[@sqronce]

The thing Mr Girl is talking about where they forced Lav to sign a thing... my rough recollection of how it went was that 1 guy in the call, not all of the people, 1 guy, who said he didn't follow all the drama so was missing the ins and outs of stuff, asked Lav whether she thought Destiny did the best he could back during their friendship and stuff, and she was like "yeah", and he was like "well if that's what you think, then you should make it clear that that's what you think". But it was always him asking Lav what she thought, and then saying that she should make her thoughts clear publicly, whatever they are. And then he said he wanted her to be able to ride off into the sunset with her fiance and hot have to deal with drama, and he was being very sweet and caring. Shaelin was furious with him when he came into the call, though, so then he was a bit like "Lav, this seems bad, I was just telling you to do what's right for you, and now they're trying to drag you back to them?" (All of this is half remembered and super paraphrased.) But yes. Max told that SUPER incorrectly.

[@sqronce]

Like... objectively incorrectly.

[@harryfieldson]

Why does he think DGGers want to sink his article, we're waiting for the content

[@majicalpandatech]

Another interesting point about the length is the longer the article is the harder it’s gonna be to respond to. it’s like shotgunning allegations. Mr girl imo knows this which is why throughout the writing of the article he has not asked destiny for commentary

[@ryaugn]

I guess to max, being rude, crude or mean is abuse. Clearly when most people think of abuse we put it on another level than being mean or rude.

[@Jankyito]

To give everyone a reference point, the great Gatsby is about 50k words. Jesus christ Mr obsessed

[@nhall129]

Bro this article is gonna be such good content

[@AdorkablyAutumn]

Mr Girl saying "it's normal to be upset with a woman and want to hit her" is very telling...

[@alexandermcclain5561]

Thank you for taking my advice and discontinuing the all-blue outfits. I know you won't hire me as your stylist cause I'm a nobody, but stepping up your aesthetic has been good for you. The No Jumper appearance was a nice fit. Vintage flannel, decent jeans, RedWing boots, you just need some accents. A piece of vintage jewelry here and there. You look great, dude.

[@bartoszzawora3745]

fucking reality shows can't compare. man what a perfect villan

[@chronographer]

35:11 "The responsible and appropriate thing for Jimmy Kimmel to do in that case would be to fire her. if it turned into a huge yeah- he could make a joke" So, don't have lav on stream, and make a joke about her. So, exactly what destiny did, that 15 seconds before you said was horrible and abusive.

[@chronographer]

57:18 "If lav gets shit on... you're- you- you're using the passive voice!" 52:01 "if you can't handle or you're hurt by or upset by you don't want your sexing details or sex details **being leaked** then yeah don't have sex with streamers" - Max Max! That's passive voice! Who is doing the leaking!?

[@kallewikstrom8519]

The caller was trying to get Max to get mad at him for saying he thinks a certain way and then calling him out on the hipocrisy

[@timetotalktitanic7381]

Yup, that’s pretty much what I was attempting - until he ABUSED HIS POWER and kicked me from the call.

[@THExDUFFxBOMBx42777]

1:12:27 Secondhand embarrassment. “Mostly Sneako is just smarter.” Oof, that made me actually cringe.