Charter Schools: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

Charter schools are privately run, publicly funded, and irregularly regulated. John Oliver explores why they aren’t at all like pizzerias.
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[@platypuss619]

The the fucking problem right there. People think thats schools are supposed to be profitable. They are ignoring the entire reason it exists. To fucking educate.

[@ZhangtheGreat]

The more I look into this, the more I'm convinced that the system is purposely set up this way so that kids keep failing in order to keep the big businesses profitable. Big businesses control our schools and our prison system; how convenient is it that these students don't receive proper education, drop out, and end up in the criminal justice system?

[@OlaJustin]

+ZhangtheGreat *bisnoses

[@proudcommulist5384]

+ZhangtheGreat thats is america. A system that was once created to allow freedom yet somehow has turned into a devious marketing device preying on its citizens lives and bank accounts

[@oreofudgeman]

+ZhangtheGreat it's not just a coincidence it's by design lol. high recidivism rates are good for business.

[@derman1907]

This phenomenon actually has a name: "The school-to-prison pipeline".

[@nitroneonicman]

Wow some of you missed the point entirely. He's not saying that charter schools are bad. He's saying that most charter schools have little to no oversight, which allows some charter schools to be mismanaged.

[@happypotatoes064]

im so confused why you're comment got so much bot hate

[@rjn8001]

That's an issue to tackle. But we also have to be real and understand that certain chapters of the Teacher's Union are as corrupt as some billion dollar companies. Many of them wish to sabotage just the idea of charter schools. So, while we seek tougher regulations to insure the quality of these schools, we have to be wary of the political bullshit that could come along with it, destroying the positive influence a charter can have on a community.

[@plurrpao]

But if you had any first hand experience with charter schools then you'd know that, yes, charter schools are the fucking worse. Sorely underfunded where they can't even afford after schools activists, sports, or trips. Teachers have absolutely no requirements, and anyone can work in them with no regulation. The quality of charter schools are shit. Public schools are better in every way.

[@BenMJay]

A far left progressive that wants government in charge of everything. Gee pretty much consistent with everything coming out of John "Current Year" Oliver's snout.

[@seastormsinger]

There are a lot of people missing the point, but that is at least partly because of the way the piece was presented- he didn't really make his point very well, and instead seemed to be blaming the concept of charter schools rather than focusing on the actual problem of poor oversight of them.

[@whatever9097]

“I think I’m legally okay to say that.” Is a summary of this whole show.

[@ShethTora]

What Ever yea but sometimes he’s not okay. That’s why some weirdo miner guy sued the show.

[@Jartran72]

@@ShethTora And lost the lawsuit because its purpose was just to silence critics. It turns out he was okay to say that. Please inform yourself before you spout non sense.

[@ShethTora]

@@Jartran72 I'm well aware of this although I feel like a portion of that case was dropped, I'd have to go re-watch the episodes to be totally sure. Sorry that you didn't read my comment in the same tone that I wrote it in but that is one of the downsides of written communication over spoken, tone sometimes doesn't translate well. Especially if there is different cultures involved. Trust me... I am generally well informed before I comment but thanks for thinking that I don't know what I'm talking about.

[@motanelustelistu]

@@ShethTora Why did the guy sue them and why did he lost :D ?

[@ShethTora]

@@motanelustelistu www.thecrimson.com/article/2019/12/8/wthh-john-oliver-bob-murray-lawsuit/ This combined with the 'Coal" segment from 2017 and the 'SLAPP Suits' segment from 2019 have the most of the story from memory.

[@virgiljericho664]

When he mentioned the John Oliver Academy for Nervous boys I legitimately thought he was going to open a charter school.

[@Resi1ience]

He talked with that exact tone, as if he were going to reveal the school in the next few seconds.

[@YT-screwed-up-my-nick]

"Well let's say that I wanted to open The John Oliver Academy for Nervous Boys and let's say I had a preexisting non-profit called Johny's Kids. That could've potentially overseen my school and the reason I know that is... WE DID OPEN A CHARTER SCHOOL"

[@idontknoq4813]

I really wouldn't fucking put it past him

[@casey6556]

Our Lady of Perpetual Education

[@gspendlove]

That's what I love about JO's show, the stunts he pulls off. One episode, he's starting his own religion, the next, he's baking the world's largest marble cake to humiliate a dictator. Week to week, you never know what to expect.

[@fops]

Did anyone else think that John was going to found a school in the end

[@cordeliamay3992]

YES! Was hoping for it, to be honest, lmao.

[@rednovember2205]

Yes.

[@Comrade_mommy]

I thought for sure he would, but considering how fucked there charter system is he was barely alter to scratch the surface. Like how charters can get around the whole separation of church and state part of the Constitution.

[@arthurdent6256]

+Eric Michaelsen No you haven't...

[@krishnachittur]

Yes! I'm glad I wasn't the only one

[@renskedunnewold1995]

Weird to see him talk about the Olsen twins as if they were twins, and not one person moving at lightning speed from one position to the other, for reasons yet unknown

[@timothye.2902]

it's an older episode

[@lawrencecalablaster568]

I had somehow almost forgotten about the Olsen Speed Mirage joke.

[@tuckerbowen4626]

in the "Brexit II" video, published Jun 11, 2017 (about 10 months later) he refers to the Olsen twins conspiracy as something they discussed last week, implying he had only just started to realize it

[@PaulChabot]

Aka, The Olsen Anomaly... referenced in the work of Albert Einstein and further examined by countless scholars... It is a known fact that the research done on this topic has made much of the technology surrounding the LHC possible.

[@buttonpusher3786]

Great to see how he was enlightened and eventually saw the truth!

[@Gilhelmi]

"But he who keepeth the law, happy is he" Best comeback I have seen in a while. I hate people that misquote the Bible to justify their own stupidity.

[@ridanann]

starwars justifys rebellion/terrorism i dont think they misquoted i think ur blaming friction for real behaviours an as jimmy zuz said fuck the police lol an if u get that u got good education

[@kindlin]

The bible was written by Man, for Man, so it only makes senses Man would misquote it to fit His current needs. It's basically the intended purpose.

[@MasterArchfiend]

@@kindlin Yeah. Basically every branch of Christianity exists because someone didn't like a handful of rules in their current faith so they edited or removed them before getting a bunch of people who agreed to create their own branch. People have been changing the scriptures to suit their needs or the current times since ancient times.

[@DoctorWhoKage]

@@ridanann are you in second grade? That's the only reason I can come up with as to why your grammar's so bad and why you're so stupid. Star Wars "justifies" rebellion (which is supposed to be a good thing otherwise, history would've totally vilified the Revolutionaries during the French Revolution) and "terrorism" because that's who their "good guys" are. Vilifying both sides of every conflict within Star Wars history would be pointless because then there's no reason for the audience to sympathize with the Rebels and the Resistance and the conflict, itself becomes meaningless and practically non-existent. What if I told you that what Superman is doing is pointless because he's a vigilante and that he should be locked up with every other villain he's fought? If they did that, there would be no conflict since no Police Department I've heard of within the DC and Marvel universes can handle super-powered criminals and would basically be forced to let them roam around freely because these criminals are just too powerful (or smart) for your average Police Department and for your average Military. What is an average Police Officer gonna do when there's a death warrant issued against an armed robber who's robbed many stores and killed many, many people and he then arrives at the scene of one of the man's robberies, and the Officer then quickly learns that the man is impervious to bullets, and those "weapons" that he was armed with was thrown fireballs and laser eyes? What would the Officer do then? Same goes for Star Wars. Your average planetary military hasn't managed to defeat the Empire or the First Order and that's basically because they have the dark side of the force on their side. Normal-ass people can't do anything against a super-agile dark lord with a red laser sword and the power to choke you without touching you, stop your laser before it hits him, and to electrocute you with their fingers. Also, keep this in mind: these dark lords also run their Governments like dictatorships. Because that's what the Empire and the First Order were: dictatorships. A Rebellion with the light side of the force on their side is the only way to fight back. And I'll end by asking you this: who wouldn't want to rebel if they're being politically run by dictators?

[@ridanann]

@@DoctorWhoKage firstly an more importantly nobody cares 2ndly its a joke a play on real life politics the terrorists are good when u choose. 3rdly the politics of starwars is ridiculous becoz there in bloody space if u think our politics would exist an such an advanced society ur ignorant af we wouldn't make it.

[@allyourcode]

The notion that everything in life can be treated like a business is not logic; it's very wacky and destructive dogma that contaminates so many areas of American life (including but not limited to education).

[@Samantha_yyz]

Yah it's fucking crazy, a public service isn't a business...... like seriously how hard is that to understand. Also government run things don't need to worry about turning a profit since you know they are tax funded, they exist in a different system ugh

[@timothymcjury72]

Just like the notion that politics like running America is a business. That’s bullshit. It’s not just a business it takes much more sociological prowess and a little knowledge of nuance to actually be good at it. That’s why a so called great business man isn’t gonna be the best person for the job.

[@Justforthefifteen]

I mean. The best schools are private schools. So it is good for school to be seen as a business.

[@MrZoomah]

@@Justforthefifteen In Australia our government pays private schools as well as public schools but parents also add money via fees. So kids in private schools get tons of money. However, the research shows this is wasted. When controlled for socio economics, our public education systems scores are equal to privates schools but public school students are less likely to fail in university. This is despite private schools often kicking out underperforming kids. Given that time spent with parents is a huge indicator of academic success the researchers recommended that parents enroll in public schools, use the money saved to reduce their work hours and they will get better outcomes. Note: This included the richest of the rich schools. Both the principal and the deputy principal of the richest school in my city send their kids to public school despite having a free ticket. They know the research.

[@jm15xy]

​@@Justforthefifteen There's a difference between _private not-for-profit_ and _private for-profit_ schools. There is also a difference between a privately run business (even if the private business is in some way subsidized) and charter schools that are, after all, publicly funded, even if they are run privately. Private businesses obtain funds from investors (including creditors) and by selling products and services. What the "EMO" company shown by Oliver (and PBS) was doing was making money by taking a huge part of the (I cannot stress this enough!) public funds assigned to the charter schools it was running for itself and running its charter schools on the cheap. The EMO, not the charter schools, was what was being run "at a profit" here: but its profit comes at public expense and also at the expense of the charter schools that it was running. That is the crucial difference and what is most important: charter schools are funded publicly (by the government, through taxes) just as are regular public schools, but they are 1) more autonomous and 2) are run by private parties. The companies or private foundations that run charter schools are, in effect, subcontractors of the State (that is, the State pays them to perform a public service, in this case education out of public funds) and the terms on which charter schools are subcontracted allow for the private parties running those schools to be more autonomous from the rest of the public school (which allows them, in theory, to be better than the rest of the public school system), but also allowing the charter schools to benefit from private funding (be that from the resources from those private entities themselves or through efficiencies in the running of the charter school). But efficiency here should mean (and the State has to do oversight so that this is the case) doing more (that is more education) with less resources, not giving public money to David Brennan because he is providing LESS education.

[@Althios]

Embracing the Harambe meme... bless you lol

[@casxela6499]

I think he just improved it by 100%

[@lastresort608]

🍆🍆🍆🍆

[@blade9852]

dicks out everyone

[@bernardoperez953]

Dicks out

[@connorsanford7910]

Dicks out

[@Montesama314]

Wow, that "threesome" joke is in HORRIBLE taste... Not as tasteless as the bar in the school building, but REALLY DAMN CLOSE.

[@ashnambers]

Well last time I heard about a threesome involving a bunch of kids it was "Daisy's destruction" (Don't watch that video, look up info if your are curious, but DO NOT try to find and watch it)

[@divan4440]

+Jacobsmob im guessing daisys destruction is some fucked up porn just like mr. Hands ( dont look it up) ?

[@mohammadghanbarzadeh7328]

+GRAVITATION یوتیوب من خراب است help

[@Fryguysun]

What's in poor taste about the 'threesome' joke in that sitcom? Was the actress a convicted child molester or something? Even when taken out of context by John Oliver, I was somehow able to discern it was innocuous humor. Kind of like most of the topical, sex themed jokes John Oliver and many other comedians make IMHO.

[@ashnambers]

 GRAVITATION Gore& child porn. Its nothign compaired to mister hands because its around 30 minutes long of a child being raped, beaten, and murdered. You can only find it on the deep/dark web. Unlike Mr. Hands.

[@qwertyu8832]

And the Lord said, "Privatize until there is nothing left."

[@rudtuck1463]

Basically selling children to big businesses.

[@qwertyu8832]

That's how they keep people out of the club. Take their money and make sure they don't get any knowledge.

[@zacnieprawisz9171]

@Kincaid7 Public schools are the best but in US they are underfunded because of those charter scams.

[@Coolguysup]

Marlo Stanfield They are held accountable! Payed leave is such a harsh punishment.

[@Bianca-rd8zu]

@@zacnieprawisz9171 as someone who went to a charter school in a bad school area, I agree there should be charter schools but if you are going to put the charters schools in you have to be simultaneously improving the school system because charter schools shouldn't be a multi generational thing. It should be a temporary solution because we shouldn't relay of businesses to control our children education system. We shouldn't be allowed to profit from education. The thing about them is that they are competitive which ca be both a good and bad thing, but public school always need to remain the number one option for our education system.

[@totally_a_real_account7902]

This is a classic John Oliver look, a navy suit, striking bright blue tie, and a simple white shirt with a timeless blue cross hatch. This is a very professional version of the old timey look that John always brings to the table. 8/10

[@dmblum1]

"Education is about making money." So I guess children exist to make adults money. Why not just get right to it and get back to children working in sweatshops? Cut out the middleman as it were.

[@SpiralBreeze]

Children have smaller hands, which leads to smaller and finer hand stitching, embroidery would look amazing.

[@alinadeem1696]

I wanna be offended, but he has a point

[@saddamhussein3849]

That's the spirit! We should abolish those Marxist child labor laws written by pussy ass liberals!

[@awesome9174]

+You Got To Feel The Bern If they fail we'll beat them, it'll work.

[@Warvvolf]

+David Blum That would be great as long as the child labor jobs weren't shipped overseas or taken by illegal child immigrants.

[@sagewaterdragon]

#DicksOutForHarambee

[@OfficialNWS]

You know what the fuck it is.

[@stellaleecampbell6877]

out

[@ailurusfulgens3207]

amen...

[@goliiad]

Harambee = >:(((

[@matrixphijr]

*Gets arrested for exposing himself to children*

[@trees____383]

When he mentioned Franklin Academy. I used to go there it was basically hell. They boosted all our important grades by about 30 points to make sure they looked good and made me take classes over and over again even though I was making requirements. With the way they treated everything it was obvious that they just wanted money. I now go to a public school and by sophomore year I’ll be done with most of my graduating requirements Edit: the year I left they turned it from a 6-12 to a k-12. They didn’t make the school bigger just added more kids. The buses are filled and they kicked off people that had been at the school since it opened. Classes are used by two teachers, one who goes around using a cart for their stuff and the other gets the classroom. It only gets shittier as it goes on, I heard from my friends that one of the highschool kids raped an elementary student under the bleachers...both those kids left the school and students aren’t allowed in the bleachers at all

[@solala1312]

happy you got to switch, hope you can finish school :)

[@leoR86]

Looks like the charter school worked put for you

[@cheeseheadfilms2.092]

Congrats (on meeting requirements(

[@trees____383]

Leonardo Reyes not really...I literally stated that they were making me take my classes over and over again., even tho I had met the requirements to move on. They just didn’t have spaces in the classes I had to be in so they kept holding select students back. When I went there for the first week of the year, it had been my third time taking spanish one (you need to at least take spanish 2 to graduate), they didn’t put me in bio like I was supposed to be, and I was taking algebra 1 AGAIN even though I passed the eoc with a 4. Not only did it fuck with my education but my mental state. Do you know how shitty it is ti think this will be your year and you find out you failed even tho you tired so hard? It’s literally shit

[@miguelcotia5273]

Your school may have been terrible but this is simply anecdotal evidence. It does not represent all 6700 charter schools in the country.

[@kentslocum]

The charter school I attended simply paid for me to take classes at my local community college. When I showed them my college degree, they gave me a high school diploma. It was a great system.

[@jennlam9927]

They do that at public schools too, bud.

[@SummerRun]

Fat bellied boys

[@utterbullspit]

Sounds like you could've just cut out the middle man and just took college courses

[@kentslocum]

@@utterbullspit Except that if I took college courses directly, I would have had to either graduate high school first or pass the GED, then pay for tuition out of pocket. This way, the state paid for me to go to college while I was still technically a high schooler.

[@kentslocum]

@@jennlam9927 I was homeschooled, so I'm not familiar with the public high school system. I assume you're talking about AP classes?

[@JazzyJacksJokeShack]

The school system as a whole is fucked, thanks Common Core :)

[@MoonlitGamer]

It's been out for literally half a year. Calm down.

[@JazzyJacksJokeShack]

BallisticClipboard Trash evolving into bigger trash, I know what I am talking about for I go to school Edit: Also it has been out for more than half a year dumbass

[@JazzyJacksJokeShack]

modelmajorpita So because I am affected my opinion does not count? Okay then, nice logic.

[@aformofmatter8913]

Common Core could not have ruined the system, as it was already broken. All it did was make it worse in some places.

[@JazzyJacksJokeShack]

A form of matter I agree the system was already broken but Common Core makes it so much worst all around, and unnecessarily complicated.

[@Khorothis]

John Oliver, crushing your faith in humanity since 2014.

[@1234kalmar]

You still had some to crush?

[@MCOD1999UK]

I was born with no faith in humanity

[@crcoghill]

where have you been since the making of humanity!?

[@Khorothis]

There are a lot of inspiring people out there, but when you see that one of the world's most powerful military and economy is populated and goverened by the most retarded folks on the planet you start doubting if reason will ever conquer stupidity, conformism, and complacency.

[@tuitaco]

More like my faith in America to be honest :(

[@iforgot8376]

Strange how politicians praise charter schools and here my underfunded public school is nearly the best in the state.

[@kidwiththehat2016]

Same

[@ndmndjndjfngtornfjdj2364]

Same

[@jdtreharne]

Great! One of the big advantages of charter schools is that you don't have to go to them if you don't want to!

[@JerryO1995]

@@jdtreharne man do I wish this was just sarcasm. You never know when it comes down to americans.

[@jdtreharne]

@@JerryO1995 Does the government in your country force you to attend charter school?

[@nephyxutune]

Most of these Charter schools listed in the video are much more lucky than the one I'm in currently. When they present an image on the Harambee Charter School, you can see that the school is 2, maybe even 3 stories tall. My school is on the 3rd floor of an office building. No, it doesn't have three floors, it has one. In the entire building. Not only that, but they don't even cook the food. They heat up pre-packaged meals in, get this, _microwaves._ Yes, you heard me right. But wait, there's more! My school claims to be an academically prestigious school that only lets in the best, and yet my classmates recieve F's on a regular basis, constantly interrupt class, and have even caused one of our science teachers to quit completely. The staff is honestly terrible. None of them know how to teach a group of young kids even though they all have degrees. We don't even have an actual math teacher, just a long term sub who will hopefully be fired because a few weeks ago he told a groupof students they should've never been born. The English teacher has belittled and mocked one of my close friends because he has dyslexia. The science and history teachers are pretty okay, for the most part. Our physical ed coach is constantly yelling at us and threatening us, and another teacher has phsyically harmed multiple students (not very obviously, but it's still harm), including me, in which she grabbed my arm so hard she left scratch marks (from her nails) and a very sore bruise. Take it from me, charter schools are just glorified public schools. I can't believe taxpayer money goes to piece of shit "institutions" like these when they could just as easily be going towards something much, much better. Edit: I forgot to mention, another Charter school nearby closed last year and most if not all of their students came to our school.

[@celticcheetah6371]

Jason Maxwell next time that teacher leaves a mark on you or one of your classmates, take a picture of it and show it to the principal. It is illegal behaviour.

[@neosubzero2880]

@@celticcheetah6371 From what I just read, best to skip the principal and go straight to parents or police.

[@Mr.Crow101]

Are you ok?

[@miguelcotia5273]

People do not be dissuaded, do not be lied to by this man. Full of demagoguery. Charter Schools are the hope of the next generation and generations to come. If you want to actually know the facts, don't list to this cherry picked commentary instead read Thomas Sowell's new book, Charter Schools and their Enemies. If that is too much of a hassle for you I urge you, I plead you to please watch this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5PSgqV5hdyArdU It is a video of Thomas Sowell being interviewed about Charter Schools. The facts are there, and easily found, charter schools as a whole are a better system, these schools have CLOSED THE GAP between whites and asians with blacks and hispanics. Please, please, please, there is no greater issue than maybe foreign threats than the proper education of the next generation. Is this any better than the Baltimore Traditional public schools? 13 out of 26 of the did not have a single student pass the state math exam not one! It is trade offs which is better? Please people just read more and don't put all your chips into this one guy who cherry picked the worst examples of charter schools.

[@me_myselfand_i2099]

@@miguelcotia5273 This video wasn't about charter schools vs public schools though. It was about some of the flaws of charter schools. This is also a person's experience with these schools. I think you should be listening

[@MrStringybark]

Are there any institutions in America that are not always on the edge of being morally compromised or totally corrupt.

[@juliamuukkonen8674]

Nah

[@amabitsapiens]

Isn't that everywhere, or is that just the Stockholm's Syndrome talking?

[@nourshamayleh3423]

@@amabitsapiens It's not everywhere. Believe me this problem, for example, doesn't even exist in so many other countries and not going to happen. We don't have charter schools that are publicly funded yet privately run so the chance of having this problem is zero. Many of the problems John talks about are unique to the US and are on large scale unlike any other country. We might have problems but they're of a different nature.

[@whatever9097]

i minabrons not really

[@sandragray4598]

One big, big problem is that they have been cutting down government employees as much as they can, so who is left to do oversight. Very few. The ones left are extremely overworked and demoralized and anyone who does whistle blow is treated as an enemy and pariah, by the employer and often by many in the public eye. Don't believe in those who say we need less government. Half the time they don't even know what the phrase should mean.

[@ionlymadethistoleavecoment1723]

11:09 if you're going to do some terrible thing, do not twist scripture to justify your actions.

[@kurolinguini3117]

Yeah, the moment the word "Proverbs" came out of her mouth I knew she was full of crap. Pidgeons filling a pidgeon hole as it were. I mean, the introduction to her rant was that she misappropriated public money for personal use, and then the first words out of her mouth was a half assed attempt to quote the Bible to justify an illegal action. I was like, "nope! You full of it! Let me get my popcorn and watch the rest of your rant go down in flames!"

[@pop5678eye]

If there is one thing that should raise suspicion about any school is them reporting consistent 100% attendance.

[@colettecavazos7343]

As someone who went to a cyber charter school for seven years, it's basically like reading an online textbook and taking some online quizzes. For hours and hours. If you hate zoom calls, imagine if you don't even get that much classroom interaction. In my experience, it's a lonely, teach-it-yourself kind of system that rarely works well. If my mom didn't understand something, I was pretty much screwed.

[@rubenbarrera7338]

Was college a better experience for you?

[@colettecavazos7343]

@@rubenbarrera7338 Yes! haha I unfortunately had my freshman year be fall of 2020, so everyone was in isolation, but past that, I've been great! But for some other kids in the same school, who I didn't really know since we only met once to take a standardized test, cyber charter was a way for their parents to have them doing other things full time and still technically be enrolled in a school. One kid was in a theater troupe, and his mom made him take the PSSAs (an algebra test required for all Pennsylvania students to pass at least once by the end of 9th grade) every year starting at sixth grade. He never learned a day of algebra, his mom just hoped if he took the test enough times he'd eventually get a passing grade. She told my mom in the test waiting room that she just did all of his tests for him and marked him in as passing, so he could work at the troupe. Also, as his mid-test snack, he brought a family size bag of tortilla chips and an entire head of lettuce. It took him like thirty minutes to eat; the proctor finally let me restart the test when she realized he was determined to finish the whole thing. I still think about that kid sometimes, if he made it, if he even wanted to be an actor, what was going on with the lettuce, I don't know. The point is, I believe (mostly from conversations my mom had with other parents at these tests) that a lot of kids in the cyber charter system are there because their parents want them to work for free at their stores, farms, etc. for most of the day and still technically check off the education box. Also, abuse in the household is a lot easier to cover up if a child only knows that household, if they have no third location or metric on which to measure their treatment or for anyone else to step in. Also, some parents are just not equipped to teach children with learning disabilities, not that I'm saying public schools are, but if your parent has a 'suck it up' mentality, that's going to be your learning environment, too. These are problems with homeschooling too, and they're hard to even start to address.

[@moonlily1]

Why did your parents keep enrolling you for that long when it was going so poorly?

[@colettecavazos7343]

@@moonlily1 Cyber school gave my parents the freedom to control every aspect of my education. This included the schedule (12 hour school days starting at 6 am, absolutely no breaks, one or two timed five minute bathroom breaks and fifteen minute showers, we would do another lesson over meals, we got some of Sundays off (although I didn't have friends to spend it with), and had shorter school days during July, but still had many hours of work. If you and your sibling fight, imagine if they were also the only other person in all of your classes, and all of your work is being judged by your mother. Now imagine that your school days are twelve hours long, and your parents believe in traditional punishments, and these can be administered during the school day at any time for any outburst or word or impoliteness. It was physically and emotionally exhausting, and I remember crying a lot, which was only ever met with disgust. I wasn't able to get my adhd diagnosed until college, because my struggles with focusing were generally treated as a personal fault, and if I got frustrated, I was 'disciplined' in the aforementioned way. No one ever questioned the system, no one ever asked if we were happy or okay, and even if I had been asked, I would have answered yes- I believed the outside world to be terrifying, a minefield of child kidnappers and christian persecution, and that my parents' methods were the only thing that could prevent me from a horrible life followed by a horrific death followed by a gruesome afterlife. I was taught that every bit of pain that I felt now I otherwise would have felt tenfold in the 'real world,' and I would tell myself that over and over again, like I was earning some kind of credit, and if I just got through the next day and the next and the next, someday there'd be no pain left to feel. My mother sometimes reminds me of happy moments, like the time we went to the Franklin Institute (a philadelphia science museum) and I am grateful for that, but when you're living just to survive, fine tuned to changes in tone and jumping at footsteps, some of the worst moments get dulled, but the bright ones get dulled too, because you never really live in them, because you don't trust them. So what is my point? I'm not sure there is one, but- I am a success story. I am the kind of story that my cyber charter school tells people; I'm currently at Duke, and I'm pretty well-adjusted, all things considered. However, I didn't really get to be a kid. Maybe it's good that we didn't get time off; I don't think I would've known what to do with it. In my opinion, though, this shouldn't be a success story. Believe it or not, I'm not including a whole lot of stuff in this youtube comment, because that would be crazy, but my point is, there are basically no checks and balances when it comes to schooling at home. I wish there had been. I was in the 'homeschool bubble' for a while, and it's an echo chamber of a lot of nice ideas and a few really harmful ones. Still, I know I got lucky. Anyway, I hope that answers your question.

[@8rodrdy]

Yes miss,but this wasn't about that. Mor3 of an alarm rung regarding pulling YOUR LITTLE GIRL from school locking her in a closer until she is found dead. Sad detention. Show me any HUMAN GROUP THAT DARES TO DEFEND NO REGULATION OF THEMSELVES.

[@maestraceballos124]

I am a public school teacher. At first I was fine with charter schools, but now we are surrounded by them and parents are constantly leaving our school to "try out" the charters. Around October and November they usually decide to come back to our school after they recognize the charters' issues. What's the problem with that for us? Our student enrollment gets counted in September and we often have to lose a teacher because we don't have a high enough teacher-to-student ratio. But when the charter students return and our enrollment goes back up, that money stays with the charter schools and we end up with class sizes at 35 students. It's getting pretty frustrating.

[@mrajaiom]

Vlavitir glutginskiya They do provide better quality. That's why they go back to public schools

[@ohnosmoarlulcatz]

Public schools do provide better services just by being public schools. For example, they provide services to everyone including new immigrants. Some have ROP classes to help students find work. A charter school would be turn these students away because they don't want to provide ESL classes. There's free tutoring available at some public schools. The problem is that charter schools are not being held accountable for their failures in the same way a public school is. If a public school isn't allowed to get away with minimal attendance, then these charter schools should not be able to either. But in the video, you can see how they cheat the system. In public schools, attendance is required daily (hourly sometimes, especially in longer summer school classes). In my area, if the student goes to the bathroom for 20 min or misses class for 20 minutes without a notice, they are considered absent for the day. The 100% attendance is considered very suspicious (anything above 97% is suspicious even in what people consider "good" schools with poorer schools being around 90% and "continuation" schools being at 70% or so). Even home schooling requires a certain test to be passed to be recognized as acceptable. Charter schools are allowed to say "our standards are different" and their students are allowed to fail all of those standardized tests that the students in public schools have to take, thus avoiding accountability for even having to teach students. Public schools are scrutinized when their scores drop and the teachers are often held as the one to blame for all the problems. Yet, charter schools are not even required to have certificated teachers. Public schools at bare minimum require someone with a college degree in anything and if they don't have a teaching credential, they can't even be there for more than 5 days of the year. Once in a while, you do get a good charter school, but according to the list of public and charter schools available in the west, most never even make it to WASC certification (a process required to be recognized as a legitimate school) and within 3 to 4 years, 90% of the charter and public schools already shut down for a variety reasons, most commonly being failure to meet certification. Why this certification matters is that it is what is necessary for a school to be recognized by other schools as legitimate. Otherwise, the classes completed don't go towards college credits.

[@Bobo0451]

Vlavitir glutginskiya they do to a certain extent but if you're not an immigrant or someone with a disability there's not too many services to provide for other people and that's not the public school's fault it's mainly them not getting enough funding because there are taking some of the funding they would usually give the public schools and giving them to Charter Schools that in the very basis of how we decide how much money to give a certain school is broken I won't go into that in this comment because it would go on forever. Also keep in mind that the two services that I mentioned above are not provided by any Charter School in Ohio that's where I live so that's all I can speak on.

[@louderthangod]

I worked near a KIPP and we constantly got all of the kids they kicked out for behavior problems. That’s fine if these were college students but these are middle school students and they only keep the students they want. If we only gave standardized tests to the we picked then our scores would have also looked miraculous.

[@bblcommisions]

@Ishan Bansal Those are private, not charter.

[@jcarrillo96jc]

Was gonna go to sleep but John Oliver kept me up

[@bfp08]

Same

[@Dontreadthis0]

ditto

[@joshuatheawesome9440]

Same. It's now 2am.

[@brandondavidson4085]

"Charter schools are basically public schools that are tax-payer funded and privately run". Nope, I can't possibly see a problem with this at all.

[@Lobos222]

Let me guess, you have a problem with private prisons and private military as well then... /satire

[@pelon7109]

@@Lobos222 yes that's why the u.s has the biggest population off inmate not because there doing bad crimes but because private prisons making money of people locked up and people like you are the problem so brainwashed that you dont see the problem!

[@ThePapaja1996]

they dont work in sweden.

[@TheNinthGenerarion]

ludde sundström it’s interesting how people in Sweden see the closing of a prison as a good thing while most Americans will see it as a problem because they think “what if we need it later” except they also find ways to ensure they end up needing it

[@honeydewuwu2055]

tax fraud, hunny 💅🏼

[@xinamoira274]

At my charter school, my "humanities" teacher taught us that skepticism was "wrong and judgemental" (including an insane and fake story about the skeptic society's founder), promoted his religous tenants in class, made fun of the mentally ill to a bunch of 6th graders, and promoted legally classified terrorist organizations who are the reason certain members of my family have to go to their jobs with armed guards on standbya + shut me up when I tried to say anything about the latter by getting in my face and repeating "how would you like to be judged" over and over again. He hated me for not swallowing every ounce of his bullshit and not finding his "jokes" amusing, and knew I was being bullied by almost everyone at the school, so he would frequently encourage this bullying in class. His name was Callid Keefe Perry. Last I checked, he's now a bigwig in public education in New York, in charge of millions of innocent kids and their futures. Fuck charter schools.

[@one-seventh]

He's become worse: • www.bu.edu/sth/profile/callid-keefe-perry/ • www.callidkeefeperry.com/

[@birdn4t0r7]

find out his address, post it on 4chan, and let the internet do its thing

[@thepope2412]

@@birdn4t0r7 that's not how it works

[@mannhouse8014]

@@birdn4t0r7 no no no, you're thinking classic 4chan, true agents of internet justice before they became simps for the GOP.

[@herbsandmagick4532]

I am a teacher that covers some of those topics, and I’m so sorry to hear that this happened to you.

[@gryjffrs]

Let me say this one time, charter schools do at times result in excellent results. But our leaders have left too many loopholes in the laws regulating them to allow them to continue as they are. If fixed they could become viable again and that's assuming they ever were. But if no one has the will to rein them in & stop the theft then the only ones who will suffer are our children.

[@TheShowThatSUX]

+Gary Jeffers Here is the problem, how to you regulate with out turning them into carbon copies of the failing public school that they were opened to compete against? Here is the mentality of "regulate": we do not know it is safe so let us forbid trying it. Well how will you ever learn if is safe then? Remember one of the things that screwed up the public schools in the first place was the rules and regulation. For example, I am having to fight common core crap right now. They do not want our kid to learn how to "carry the 1" or "barrow the 9". Well screw them, the kid needs to know how to do math, so we teach the kid at home how to do what they WONT TEACH in school. If as that was not bad enough, for 4 months last year we had to go to the public library to keep our kids reading ability up: because per regulation policy she was forbidden to check out books at her level at school until they tested her to make sure they were at her level, in the mean time she was limited to what was the average level for her grade. If I could get the kid in a charter that was all about ditching that curriculum in favor of actually teaching how to do math and reading, and about teaching the kid to always push to do better rather than be happy with being "AT LEVEL" I would.

[@jonathanwilliams8512]

Charter schools are just like any other organization. Some are run well and other are run poorly. I would like to see data on how many failing public schools are currently operating. I under no circumstances believe charters should replace public. I just think it is good thing to have choice. I would like to see more of a regulatory style that we have for publicly traded companies. Every school, public or charter, should have to release annual standardized and audited financial statements, and have their testing procedures audited ever other year as well. The only problem is that system would be very expensive. The current audit standards are too lax.

[@gryjffrs]

SOOO, let's just let them continue to rape the public school system (of our tax dollars) and pretend there's nothing wrong! I am highly pissed off that a "for profit" entity has somehow convinced our lawmakers that they are the answer. I am not one of those people that blame teachers for my shortcomings as a parent. I don't know if you are but I support teachers fully. If you think they took the job for the money them...SMH! PS. Public schools are in trouble because republicans made it so. Just like the post office.

[@gryjffrs]

You know what? I did not read all of your post before I responded the first time. While I stand by my comments I also now see your problem. I don't know how to answer/respond to what you've presented in your full post. All I'll say is this, your school, or the teacher mentioned is whack and that is where your problem lies. Further, I'm sorry you are having it.

[@TheShowThatSUX]

Gary Jeffers YES, given how they are spending it they do not deserve those tax dollars. I do not blame teachers for my short comings, I blame them for their's. When they force a kid to sit until they pee their pants, when the kid is begging to be allowed to go to the bathroom it is the TEACHER who is responsible. And by the way that is the kind of crap tax payer money is being used to fund in public schools. That was the year before they took the teacher the next year altogether. And do not get me started on the day of solitary confinement for freely exchanging food with another kid who wanted to trade. That you defend this crap as something WE MUST SPEND those tax dollars on is sad. That you would argue we MUST KEEP institutions that have abused children in this way going is disturbing. I do not want your "sorry" I want these cesspools that are abusing kids and using tax money to do it CLOSED. I want kids to go to schools where: they have a teacher, are not forced to pee their pants, and are not given harsher sentences as punishment than some prisons do. If I defended this kind of abuse of kids as something WE MUST KEEP, I would be unfit to be burdened with the responsibility of raising kids. That you defend this abuse is something we MUST HAVE is at best disturbing to me. Can you name me one Charter School where this crap has happened: EVEN ONE?

[@Andri474]

I live in Europe and I have no idea what a charter school is. I just went to public school as a kid. Also, I usually come here to watch the US burn. Mmm, smells like burnt hopes and dreams.

[@SpiralBreeze]

Then you, my dear are already doing better then the rest of us Americans.

[@Deriak27Forever]

+Spiral Breeze It depends, Western schools are undeniably better than American ones, although Eastern and Balkan schools are more debatable.

[@docc_j]

hey look a non pretentious europea---- wait, they dont exist...

[@franmitrovic143]

+Deriak27Forever they are very underfunded but still better than american public schools

[@bioticjedi3864]

it will smell like burnt hotdogs

[@kozhedub]

That Pink Floyd joke annoys me every time I rewatch this 😂😂😂 Zazu, the irony of "we don't need no education" IS THE POINT

[@djbluejay9359]

This video came out the night before my first day of freshman year in high school. I’m a senior now, set to graduate in May, and this video holds such a soft spot in my heart. Godspeed John Oliver.

[@rubenbarrera7338]

Did you go to a charter school?

[@SuperQuiMan]

John Oliver for President! I mean, he already has his own team of writers, and is funded by a multimillionaire conglomerate. Plus, he looks like Harry Potter's suburban dad.

[@danidrinx7842]

Exceptions can be made for the good of the country.

[@DruidicVixen]

Actually, all it takes is for either the nominee to have been born in the states, or one of their parents. Still, I doubt Oliver Sr. or Johnny's mum was born in the US, so he's still striking out there.

[@mbalatincz7053]

He's not American born so......

[@jwomackandcheese73]

+All Hail The Mighty Glow Cloud! you could have John Stewart, seven Colbert, Trever Noah, and John Oliver run for office. Only Stewart and Colbert could run for president though.

[@dedpup4948]

that totally qualifies him to run a country he looks like harry potter's dad, give him America

[@LemonadepieX]

I will dropout of my current school just to attend the John Oliver Academy for Nervous Boys

[@julietjowett9678]

LemonadepieX your comment is out of sequence in the time line

[@RoyalTartToter101]

Enrollment starts next fall

[@catejacobsen2555]

I may be female, but I can still be awkward enough to enroll.

[@limbobilbo8743]

I would move to America to go there

[@dr.redpill353]

Beautiful, maybe you can get free diapers supplied to you by the federal government and they will only cost $255.47 each (tax payer cost) Lord knows you can't be that nervous and worried that someone might give you a standardized test without a little pee leaking out.

[@josiahmacfarlane4344]

I was lucky, and went to a charter school that was significantly better than the local schools. It's still going to this day, and I really appreciate my education. I know not all charter schools are equal, but the one I went to, I still recommend.

[@Jenny-tm3cm]

I learned way more when I went to charter school instead of public school as a teen. That being said, going to public school with autism proved to be challenging. It is more detrimental in the early years to get a good education and charter schools can’t always do that for young kids

[@josephtedros2089]

It's kind of like private prisons but school.

[@BlueyMcPhluey]

and privatized healthcare

[@BlueyMcPhluey]

and privatized water systems

[@danieljgrant1537]

Institutionalisation for the nation.

[@Ludix147]

it's all the same thing. in theory private businesses operate more efficiently, but if they lack oversight, they will do so by lowering standards.

[@horrorboyproductions]

That's completely exaggerated. There are many successful charter schools and most are, including the ones I've attended.

[@demerzel3798]

WOO! New record! Started watching 7 seconds after being posted. Praise me

[@Peek935]

*gives praise*

[@miaa7097]

Nice

[@mattelgar76]

No, praise Harambe

[@rawrzbarz]

*kneels down* praise

[@ZhangtheGreat]

Nevar! I worship in the church Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption. Praise be. Praise be.

[@dracomaneer]

So, the charter school I went to was just ok in terms of onsite educational content, but it was a great place for me due to my troubled childhood. I was able to mentally recover and the small classroom sizes were great for me when I just wanted to learn more and ask in depth questions. I was able to take community college courses in tandem with my high school courses with support of the staff at the HS. This helped me get into college by giving me a leg up on my competition going into the meat grinder of college admissions. In short, doing due diligence on the school's reputation as well as how it is linked to the school district can save your kid's life. If I went to public school or to an expensive toxic private school, I can guarantee I wouldn't be typing this message out or currently working on my engineering degree at a premier school.

[@qpurple4194]

I’ve been going to charter school in New York City for 6-10 grade and hopefully to 12 grade I don’t know how the other charter schools are run in other states but for the charter schools was running in New York City are really good especially if you were living in a horrendous neighborhood as I am in. Charter schools have long hours and a lot of work for one single reason it is for the students go to college ( If you have any questions just answer in the Replies )

[@youtheverlasting9114]

I went to charter school from K-8th grade in NYC, while I choose to go to a public high school, I can say that the charter school I went to prepared me. It’s grueling work but worth it. But these other states (and perhaps other schools in NYC) need some regulations to ensure that schools are ready and that other options are left for parents.

[@TheNukaColaMan10]

Went to a charter school, had awesome grades met good people, also had good teachers, and we were always growing. My personal experience.

[@TheNukaColaMan10]

Oh! Also it ran on donations.

[@WhynoMoral]

There are good charter schools, but this system doesn't work if there is a greedy bastard who wants to get money out of education.

[@TechTubeCentral]

that's not a fault of the charter school system rather is a lack of the county/state regulating them properly.

[@adamsmithhomie9490]

u mean like the thousands examples of public schools u could list that abuse the system...stop w/ the over regulation

[@jetstream601]

+The Nuka-Cola Man so it's not a charter school. charter schools have to be publicly funded but privately run.

[@InorganicVegan]

As an educator, I can appreciate this topic. Lots of people don't understand that charters do shady shit, like kicking out underperforming students to boost their test scores.

[@InorganicVegan]

Politicians are too afraid to speak out about charters' flaws since they are so unreservedly popular. Public schools are flawed, but charters are often not the solution. I hate having to throw shade on fellow educators, but I can't stand the dishonesty of charters.

[@pdxair6567]

I just saw a comment up above, about a student who went to a christian charter school, where they expelled all the students that failed. Like wtf.

[@adarateranroldan]

That happens at private schools too

[@grantmiller7257]

+Adara Teran-Roldan Yes, but the fact that private schools are not dependent on public money makes it less controversial. Still shadey as shit.

[@Howhaveyouben]

when you don't kick them out you push them into "special education" classes and just disregard their low test scores as a disability... coddling them and not preparing them for life... and in my town they're building a "special education" school... what do you think that will do to test scores...

[@mamaoshun1472]

Harambee is a Swahili word that means 'All pull in together'.

[@MasterArchfiend]

Must have been named by a former college athlete. Seriously though, thanks for the clarification. I was a bit confused with the naming choice.

[@barrymcdougal4816]

JOHN OLIVER ---- MAKING AMERICA BETTER ----- AND THEY REALLY NEED IT.

[@audreymuzingo933]

As a former teacher in two charter schools, I'm glad to at least see somebody push back against the ignorant adoration, but John's barely skimming the surface of how problematic they can be. Honestly, the charters that immediately shut down are the biggest mercy for those kids; the ones that keep plodding along year after year are the real tragedy. I was made to teach high school courses whose subjects I knew nothing about, to legal-limit class sizes, in rotting strip malls and half-trailers, using books older than the Seniors, 1 book per 2 students, in most classes. Any complaints we had were met with shaming, "You just aren't being creative enough," etc. Oh and they won't expell a kid no matter what horrible stuff he/she does, because that's a $5000 loss.

[@redjed100]

Decent point, but I don’t think he had the time.

[@audreymuzingo933]

@@redjed100 Yeah there really should be a full documentary about it, and honestly even a 2-hour one probably couldn't illustrate all the issues.

[@redjed100]

@@audreymuzingo933 The education system in the US is where all the issues with the US government come to a head, and charter schools reflect that.

[@audreymuzingo933]

@@redjed100 Boy howdy you got that right.

[@skinnie2838]

The teachers unions are are huge financial supporters of the democrat party giving hundreds of millions of dollars to them the past decade. Charter schools are a threat to them. John Oliver is one of the major radical left propaganda mouth pieces for the democratic party. One of the greatest modern day philosophers is a man named Thomas Sowell. He explained how charter schools are amazing despite all the garbage that Oliver tries to spout against them and that is good enough for me.

[@Qtpi4]

went to a charter in TX, and here's a few things I didn't realize werent "normal" about school until I graduated: -large groups of staff quitting at once -cafeteria regularly running out of food -principal quitting and taking the banner software with him, accidentally erasing credits -new principal never being on campus except for board meetings. I did get a good ed. for the most part, but my god it was a huge shitshow the rest of the time

[@rosswilkens5101]

Harmony Public Schools?

[@dr.redpill353]

that's why charter schools have to have minimum national standards. (dems block those bills like its their job) I guess screwing up private education so they can protect corrupt teachers unions IS their job.But do they have to make it look so obvious?)

[@nicholasfarrell5981]

Dr. Red Pill not as obvious as Republicans sabotaging public education to force taxpayers to fund corrupt private schools run by child rapists.

[@DarthObscurity]

@@dr.redpill353 Lmfao, must be why public schools perform 4x better then charter schools that are allowed to cherry pick what students are tested.

[@opheliaismyname9180]

Oh, my primary (age 4-11) school had 25 staff quit in one year because of the new headmistress. Considering we were a school of 360 kids or thereabouts, that's a significant proportion of the staff. She's been trying to kick out the union rep for ages, by treating her like shit, refuses to give her help after she returned from illness (she helped the women on maternity get back into the swing, but not a woman in remission, wtf) and is just generally a piece of work. (The rep is a wonderfully tenacious woman who taught me for two years with a year between, and whom I befriended as soon as I left her class.)She sets extracurricular tasks for prizes, a lot of which are spelling tests, in a school where there are quite a few dyslexic kids and, because of where we are, it's very multicultural and a lot of kids _don't speak English as a first language_

[@ArcanineEspeon]

I just realized that this episode which means a lot to me (a charter school graduate) was uploaded on my 16th birthday. That time of my life was...well, it sure was a time.

[@cre-k8-ive]

I just want to say I hope you're doing well. This episode meant a lot to me too. I left a k-12 charter after developing depression and anxiety over many years. Once I switched to the public school, my depression mostly went away. I wish you well in your journey and hope when you look back on that time in your life you can see how far you've come and know you're incredible!

[@KudakwasheBrianMuchini-fd4si]

Well, after that Cosby joke, I don't know how to feel now about having Diddy as well in the same sentence!

[@kyn7961]

Did a comedian on HBO just use the Harambe meme?

[@angolin9352]

I've never had that channel, is HBO going down the tubes or have they just slipped that much?

[@Blueminescast]

Nah he just posts the main story from every show to youtube because he thinks its important.

[@151daze]

+Blueminescast563905 so the show isn't all this video?

[@tanisrulerofall]

+Noe Diaz yeah it's usually an hour long

[@Danneleet]

Rat face has joked about harambe before and colbert does too. Its the best

[@ayblackie5472]

Hey Florida, why must it always be you?

[@MrGarlic1234]

Who else?

[@Emma-ri9xl]

ha ha ha XD

[@InorganicVegan]

Florida has a law where the press can gain easy access to law enforcement records, so it's not that Florida is weird. You just hear about it more since the scoop is easier.

[@DiLifeandStyle]

I know right, FL's always the worst in everything. But I went to a FL charter school and it was as bad as you'd think, haha.

[@killj0y58]

When you have no sales tax the extra money gets to a lot of peoplr

[@pineapplesandjellies]

Coming across a Harambe joke in my good year 2020. Ah, memories!

[@HOTD108_]

The part of the report talking about online schooling is certainly interesting given the past year.

[@melonlemonade2]

I never got why some people want all schools to be private. If all schools were private, I actually couldn't go to school because of the price. Its the same with college, I'm not talented enough in anything to get a scholarship, and my parents aren't poor or rich enough to get through debt free. I'll never be able to make it through college without debt, no matter what, and it makes me really sad. Edit: i ended up getting my GED, i now go to community college and will be going to university next fall:) im very happy and confident in my future, i wish past me could know that

[@SpiralBreeze]

This happened to a friend of mine, she eventually dropped out of school and realized it would be better just to work instead of being in debt for 20 years. College is NOT for everyone, and teachers fail to tell students or parents this. Honestly, I wish I had not have gone, and I did get scholarships, this country needs an alternative, and to start teaching real life skills in high school.

[@TG-dr6sj]

What Spiral said. Reflect upon your skills and interests and line them up against what can provide you with a stable income. College is not a measure of your worth as a person. Trade school, merchant marine, military, and many other opportunities are available. Find a path to maximize your potential. Good luck.

[@Kereea]

This is one reason I loved my high school principal. He called all the seniors into a meeting in the first quarter of the year and admitted he knew most of us weren't considering college and in that case we had resources for vocational schools, apprenticeships, navigating job fairs, resume writing, and other things other than just the college or military routes. So even if you weren't college track you could still succeed. There was this good line like "we need scientists, but we also need plumbers."

[@nunyabizness3866]

Bottom line: whites want there to be little or no brown people in the schools they send their kids do. Can't discriminate, so you jack up the price and call that fair.

[@kaylamurray2927]

charter schools are free just like public schools however they are operated more privately in the sense of number of students, and student to teacher ratio for better potential of extra and efficient help essentially a charter school is a public school with a private school mindset

[@stephanieerickson238]

You need to do a part 2 of this. The very important fact that most charter school teachers do not have teaching degrees. Public schools on the other hand require teaching certification and the teacher must be highly qualified. At the last charter school where I worked, only 20% of teachers had teaching degree. Some of them did a great job, but most struggled and their students did too. I’m now working in a public school and couldn’t be happier working with highly qualified and experienced teachers. I don’t think parents are aware of this information.

[@chadposey6906]

This is backwards, public schools require certifications which are expensive, charter schools you can come straight out of collage and teach

[@athenarocks7657]

That explains so much! (I went to a charter)

[@joshfritz5345]

I don't care if a teacher has a degree. The one and only thing I care about is that the students get a good education. That's it. I don't care about the unions, I don't care about the teacher's paper qualifications, any of that. If parents want to send their students somewhere else, that is their choice to make, and the money they paid into the system should support that choice.

[@mechengr1731]

OK, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I went to a Math and Science Charter School. Several of the teachers had phds in the topic they teached, not teaching degrees.

[@gi-gisaint9105]

I actually graduated from a charter high school. I was the worst my mom used to call it a "Nazi Training Camp" because they were trying to snuff out almost any way we could be individuals. When we found loopholes to express ourselves they made a new rule forbiding it sometimes in the middle of the year. Also the money from our senior gift just disappeared and no one has a clue what happened to it. That money was raised by the students and we raised $8000 more than we needed so what happened to the extra we still have no answer.

[@lucyhellbroke]

Now that we are in the midst of covid-19... This reality, now that so many kids are attending online school, even if it's not charter school, is kind of terrifying. These statistics are disturbing. John Oliver... You kind of desperately need to revisit this, and soon.

[@EmilyExplosion27]

By my senior year of high school, we didnt have enough books for the students. My AP Government class had more students than desks. Sometimes they canceled nutrition (the snack break in the morning) because we couldn't afford custodial staff. Oh and they closed almost all the bathrooms during school hours. And yet there was a charter school petitioning to move onto our campus. We would lose our library, college counseling center, and some classrooms. Because we weren't crowded enough. There were massive protests and we won. Two years later my high school became a charter school. Along with the two surrounding high schools too. Seriously confused about what is going on with these charters.

[@pdxair6567]

Damn, that must have really sucked. If you don't mind me asking, what state was your school in?

[@monse2800]

At my school the principal locked the bathrooms for the middle school grade because they do a lot of vandalism and we have to go all the way downstairs and yet teachers still ask us " What took you so long?"

[@stensoft]

9:26 Hold on, they didn't call it the Wild West. They called it the Wild Wild West. Which is like the Wild West but with Will Smith and giant steam-powered spiders.

[@Shadowcam00]

The real wild west would've been more interesting if it was steam-punk.

[@TheAwkwardGuy]

best Will Smith movie ever o3o

[@10Exahertz]

read that in a john oliver voice lmao

[@naaziaf7239]

Nostalgia Critic

[@zacharywolf5666]

except somehow, the school it was referring to, was even more nonsensical

[@user-oi9ti2bx8t]

I’ve worked as a tutor at a few charter schools in California and from my experiences, charter schools run on a very business-oriented model which comes at a detriment to the students and teachers. Many of the class sizes are huge (each class period at the charters I worked at had around 35 students, which is a ridiculous class size considering a big selling point of charter schools is “individualized instruction”), the teachers are not well equipped to handle the students (many are not credentialed or are still in school to earn a credential), and administrative support is minimal since admin bend over backwards to keep parents happy and their children enrolled. This means behavior issues aren’t addressed, teachers cannot hold students accountable for their actions (the disrespect towards teachers, students getting into fistfights, kids getting caught smoking weed in the bathrooms, etc. are all waived with a call to their parents), and students are moved up to the next grade level regardless if they are passing or failing. It definitely isn’t too encouraging when you see a student being moved up to the eighth grade despite that student not knowing how to do basic multiplication or even read at a second grade level. The school isn’t doing any favors to the student or the family, but because many charter schools focus on profits, moving students to the next grade generates the most profits since it enables them to open up a spot for the next cohort of students to come in. The high school charters do a little better than middle and elementary school charters, but they still have enormous class sizes (I’ve been in was a math class with 60 students in one period. One of the two math teachers quit and instead of hiring a sub, they just combined the class and had a student teacher help out part-time). I don’t doubt that some charter schools are good and actually want to help underserved/minority students, but there needs to be stricter regulations on how they are run because many of the charter schools I’ve worked at are charging minority parents way too much for subpar education.

[@ontrada]

I'm resigning tomorrow from my teaching position at a charter school here on Guam and it feels like you've read diary.

[@QuiteDecent]

Take the business out of school 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@YagamiKou]

@Bethnal Green public schools dont have to be shit america just doesnt know how to set up a schooling system

[@Jcc2224]

I attended an online charter school in Ohio for my final years of High School. Yeah... it was de-funded and closed due to misrepresenting attendance. Shocker.

[@mzche1999]

ECOT???

[@alexmcbride7563]

Hey that same thing just happened to some virtual charter schools in Indiana. I wonder if this is a trend.

[@shadymello9146]

@@alexmcbride7563 virtual classes are shit

[@johnwestcott5612]

What is the American obsession that EVERYTHING has to be run like a business and make a profit?

[@momotigomo]

are you kidding? half the population are socialists

[@jackparker8602]

+momotigomo then why is Donald trump and Hillary Clinton the two candidates?

[@johnwestcott5612]

momotigomo They may like democratic socialism (Which is already a part of the American way and has been for a longggg time), but let's see what the people in power (Not the actual people.) continue to say. They shout from the highest rooftops that the free market and profit is the end all and be all, the answer to everything, and those who prefer a dose of socialized schooling or health care are demonized and decried.

[@johnwestcott5612]

***** In some ways, the military is privatized, isn't it? Lots of private military organizations in Iraq that don't have to answer to the same standards Armed Forces do. The military industrial complex dictates so much, they are one of the true masters of America. This is beyond doubt.

[@YoyoBear12]

capitalism!

[@pop5678eye]

Most of our practices in health and education are considered criminal in most other democracies... with good reason.

[@pop5678eye]

To self-correct: most of our dictating health and education policies are bad. My dig is at the boards and politicians who make the executive decisions in health and education (often including neither trained health professionals nor trained educators) not the dedicated doctors and teachers themselves.

[@loganiushere]

13:46 Instead of making a new non-profit, just use Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption’s non-profit!

[@thomassiatkosky2785]

Good Very funny

[@ChaoticFrost1]

I went to a charter school for middle and high school. As a product of that system, I watched countless friends drop out before tenth grade including myself and didn't actually learn anything. My last year of middle school my social studies teacher just let us play Risk every single day stating it was " increasing our world knowledge"...We need to regulate charter schools better. Like many others, my principal also "plead guilty to using school funds".

[@nicholasgergetz5941]

If you chose to re-enroll each year in a school giving you unproductive education, then that tells me that either your public school option was worse so you stayed at the charter school because the alternative was worse, or maybe the public school was better but you really actually didn't care about your education and was ok with playing Risk games every day. If you were dissatisfied one year, you should have switched to the better option (public or charter) the next year. Don't call in regulators to fix a choice you made and had the power to change.

[@nicolefusco9609]

Nicholas Gergetz Or maybe this person was a child who may or may not have 1) known that there were other options or 2) been allowed to make that choice?

[@nicholasgergetz5941]

If he wanted to revert back to a public school because he wanted to be there more than the charter school, but "someone" (I assume you are alluding to parents) did not allow him to, then blame the parents, not the system.

[@nicolefusco9609]

But the system is broken. You genuinely think it's fine for people to profit off of giving students sub-standard education just because the children don't know any better?

[@nicholasgergetz5941]

Those children have parents or guardians. It's on them to know a thing or two about what their kids are learning or not learning in school and to give a dang enough to switch back to the public school. Also, profit simply means that people are demanding what the supplier (in this case the school) is offering, and the people demanding are willing to pay more than the supplier must pay in costs in order to supply what it is that people are demanding. There's no sin in profit. Now you might think that fast food restaurants are evil for getting a profit on making people "sick". But then the thing you must explain to yourself is: why did someone choose to purchase food that would make them sick? You may think some people are stupid for paying to fill themselves with fat and sugar by eating out at fast food, or perhaps they were uninformed of the consequences of eating there, or perhaps they have been "misinformed". If people are uninformed, they can seek out information if they felt it worth their time to do so. And above all, people learn best by experience. Let them have the choice to try. They are then able through experience to know if the school is a hoax or not. Some people are willing to take that chance, just like some people are willing to risk getting sick from fast food. Just because you think it's a stupid choice and the people are getting ripped off doesn't mean you can impose your judgment of "best" on other people. Maybe they have other reasons which are important to them for making the choices they do. And again, the only way for them to become any wiser for making future decisions is to be permitted to sometimes make poor decisions and deal with the consequences. The crux of the school choice argument is whether YOU are willing to relinquish your desire to impose your values and reasoning on everyone else through the state, or allow others to use their own values and reasoning as a basis for their own decision making, allowing them to in some cases excel by finding better solutions, and sometimes yes, to suffer because of choosing a poorer option. It's their education and therefore their choice, not yours.

[@EyeLean5280]

Some charter schools are great for kids, others are horrible. But they're all hard on teachers. Teachers at charter schools work far harder with fewer protections and however you may feel about unions or what have you, I don't think anybody believes that someone who's overworked and stressed is going to be doing their best on the job. We can't have it both ways. We can't constantly horsewhip teachers *and* have them provide our kids with the best education. We need to pick one or the other.

[@leeduon8012]

What a thoughtful comment.

[@Clarebearhuehuehue]

Well said.

[@rayneeder]

What's more important, the teachers wellbeing or the kids wellbeing?

[@Cbr0749]

If the teachers are less stressed out. Then so are the children they are teaching. Kids will adapt to all most any scenarios. Having a teacher that loves his work and managee to captivate a whole classroom is worth alot more in the long run than what they are getting paid.

[@rayneeder]

If you give a teacher a huge wage that doesn't make him/her Necessarily love their job and the kids they work for. Maybe they would be less stressed but they wouldn't turn that stress into compassion automatically

[@eddiestaud1843]

As someone who lives about an hour give or take traffic from Philly what John said about cheesesteak alone would be grounds for a beating.

[@benjaminbrand3714]

11:03 the best part is that the verse she is writing actually says (in a modern translation) “When people do not accept divine guidance, they run wild.” So it’s not referring to personal vision at all, rather it’s referring to obeying the Lords wisdom. This quotation doesn’t work on any level 😂

[@fordthecow9838]

I wish I went to a Harambe School

[@jerrycan1756]

I hear the 1 o'clock "dicks out/ tits out break time" is great fun.

[@tomdeming]

I'd go for the night classes

[@ElFonzieG13]

Take 2 shots of Ciroc!

[@cap6741]

I would give it a shot

[@misterscorpius1446]

+Cris Py Sick triple meaning

[@shelby2117]

Well, shit. As a pregnant mother I've been looking into future schooling options for my child and a charter school seemed like a great option... But I live in Ohio and after watching this video and how unregulated Ohio charters are, I'm definitely going to do more research.

[@user-ip9xi4ty9p]

From the comments here it depends on the individual schools as well. Good luck with your kid!

[@azelmamortlake4471]

I went to school in Ohio, and I can tell you the public schools vary too. I went to public school for 15 years (K-12 plus two years of preschool, and a private preschool before that) and the one I went to was great. It was in a fairly small town, with only about 1,000 kids total in all four of the schools, and the teachers were, for the most part, pretty good. I would say you should check out your local public school and at least try a year of it before choosing a different option. I personally am very happy that I attended the school that I did.

[@lawrencecalablaster568]

How are you, your baby, and your search now?

[@zacharywoodford8530]

The thirst is real 🤣

[@basillah7650]

No research needed just see how long the school has been open before.

[@Room142]

I can't even watch this. How can schools be businesses? The objective of a business to make profits. This makes zero sense to me.

[@miguelgutierrez8694]

@Yeonhee Ahn kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6Onl3avarZsras Here is the contradicting opinion. Also notice how the comment section in the vid are starkly different from the ones here

[@angrynoodletwentyfive6463]

To be fair Schools can be business for rich kids, but for poor people who can't afford a tuition, they just can't.

[@seigeengine]

@@miguelgutierrez8694 Now let's look into the channel that video's on! "The Free to Choose Network is a right-wing 501(c)3 nonprofit and associate member of the State Policy Network (SPN)." "SPN is a web of right-wing “think tanks” and tax-exempt organizations in 50 states, Washington, D.C., Canada, and the United Kingdom... Today's SPN is the tip of the spear of far-right, nationally funded policy agenda in the states that undergirds extremists in the Republican Party." " Although SPN's member organizations claim to be nonpartisan and independent, the Center for Media and Democracy's in-depth investigation, "EXPOSED: The State Policy Network -- The Powerful Right-Wing Network Helping to Hijack State Politics and Government," reveals that SPN and its member think tanks are major drivers of the right-wing, American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC)-backed corporate agenda in state houses nationwide, with deep ties to the Koch brothers and the national right-wing network of funders." "Policy initiatives supported by SPN members have included reductions in state health and welfare programs, state constitutional amendments to limit state government spending, expanded access to charter schools, and school vouchers.[18][20] Another area of activity has been opposition to public-sector trade unions." "The Guardian, in collaboration with The Texas Observer and the Portland Press Herald, obtained, published and analyzed 40 grant proposals from SPN regular member organizations...The reports described the grant proposals in six states as suggesting campaigns designed to cut pay to state government employees; oppose public sector collective bargaining; reduce public sector services in education and healthcare; promote school vouchers; oppose efforts to combat greenhouse gas emissions; reduce or eliminate income and sales taxes; and study a proposed block grant reform to Medicare."

[@miguelgutierrez8694]

@@seigeengine Yeonhee Ahn's concern was 'how could anyone believe otherwise' in summary. That documentary provides a clear and concise argument that could satisfy that request. I know about the film because it actually aired on PBS www.pbs.org/wnet/school-inc/ , but you're right, one look at that channels uploads and there biases is quite clear. Same thing with the Last Week Tonight channel, which is why it is important to consume media from various sources.

[@seigeengine]

@@miguelgutierrez8694 It's not that they're biased. It's that they're a dishonest propaganda group funded by the greatest evils of the last few centuries.

[@lucaslennan3356]

I attended 3 different charter schools for a total of 5 years and I had 100% perfect attendance in all of them. There was no requirement for attendance in one of them and in the others I was simply reqiured to sign a monthly form with check mark boxes for each school day. I completed a total of 2 classes in my last 3 years of highschool. I dropped out senior year, took my highschool proficiency exam and entered college knowing that I would have been just as prepared having not attended at all.

[@elijahmiller7700]

Not like it's 2am or anything

[@scotchtape2070]

2:37 now

[@TexelGuy]

Not like it's afternoon or evening or anything somewhere else.

[@joshuatheawesome9440]

1:38 for me.

[@Ezra98c]

+Joshua TheAwesome same ;-;

[@Mr8888X]

8:40 am in Switzerland 😉

[@Shadow72eapers]

So get this guys apparently charter schools were pissed when they watched this because now the Center for Education Reform (a nonprofit pro-charter organization) is awarding $100,000 (you read that right) to the charter school that comes up with the best rebuttal video to Johns rant about charter schools and the contest is called “Hey John Oliver! Back Off My Charter School!” Hahaha I can't wait to see Johns response!!!

[@wood9670]

I can't either. He started a shit storm that I doubt he's man enough to weather.

[@Shadow72eapers]

Are you talking about John Oliver? I'm pretty sure he will destroy in response anybody that challenges him. Have you not seen the video of the response John Oliver gave back to Jack Warner (the ex vice president of FIFA) when Jack made a video in response to Johns coverage of him? I suggest you look it up "john Oliver replies to Jack Warner" because it's pretty great and you gives you an idea of how he responds.

[@indy_go_blue6048]

You really think JO knows all this stuff? He's got a huge team of writers and researchers working with him. Without them he'd probably be saying something like, "um, charters schools... are um..."

[@flewkisdead]

Since he took some staff from the Daily Show with him, I have to assume, it is run similar to how Stewart ran his show. The host is part of the research and writing process, so he would probably know a bit more than "um".

[@scunts]

+indy_go_blue You think he doesn't know this stuff? He's a creator, and he is also a writer and the executive producer for his show. While he's more of a comedian and political commentator than anything else, he is very capable of his own good research.

[@Mrproduct0454]

Looking back on this, I wonder how many parents complaining about CRT had their kids in a charter school.

[@floopygoober5003]

Growing up in Los Angeles, just about every school was or was becoming a charter school so the amount of research and waitlisting my my mom told me she had to do to find a even halfway decent school was insane.

[@Seamus_Finnigan894]

To be fair as John Oliver knows Mary Kate did not plagiarize her sister's face, because they are only one person moving really really fast.

[@DerekJones]

Yeah there's a fucking problem, bad public schools don't close either. I'm tired of being forced to pay taxes so that kids are forced to go to 'public' schools that don't teach them a fucking thing.

[@frankface7288]

Don't get to uppity slave, we have a armored bread truck full of men with low IQ's that will shoot your dog and launch cs gas grenades into your home.

[@DerekJones]

Exactly. Obey, or else.

[@johnstonwangstar]

The words of someone who paid no attention in school.

[@makaisenki]

Preston No he paid attention. That's why he didn't type like this. ya there a fkin prob bad pub schools don cloz n e way I tired of tax go to pub school that don school nuttin. He's just ignoring the fact that we can't fix the schools because there's so much fighting about Pub/Charter schools where people look at only the worst elements that they entirely miss the point of talking about the state of education... We need to focus on fixing the schools by using tried and effective techniques that other countries use. Rather than bitching like retards for another 10 years that the schools are broken and trying to defund the good schools just to make more broken piece of shit schools and religious academies. Stop spending so much on military, give full ride scholarships to people who want to be teachers... because teachers can't afford to pay back their student loans, and set reasonable standards that 16 other countries have. Get back to basics.

[@TheDrewgutterz]

+Patrick McGinnes stop spending on military? with the way the world is today we need the military. semper

[@sidneyboo9704]

Thanks for bringing this issue. There is so many charter schools around advertising that they are private school with high curriculums but free. I came from a public school and the education I received was absolute stellar. I'll stick with the public schools now. Thanks.

[@Tealndblue-mermaid]

My son was in public schools and he was being bullied , teachers and principals did nothing about it , switched him to charter school, he is doing great!

[@gasparperalta3725]

''Education is first last and always a business'' sure it ain't a social right or something important for people

[@imlonelypleasehelp5443]

Mr. R eh? The liberal politicians seemed to love charter schools too. 🙃you’re way conservatives have a voice in the modern world.

[@sensationalrebel9459]

@@imlonelypleasehelp5443 ^Literally Conservative. Because no human with a brain would say something like this. You fucking clowns have no guts.

[@DoctorWhoKage]

@@sensationalrebel9459 he *is* partially right, though. The Conservatives have had more political power in western democracies since these countries were founded (with the slight exception of Europe as they've merely adopted democracy after a number of years of Monarchy).

[@elfhighmage8240]

This quote is true 100% in looking at colleges and universities in America. They call it "the business (biznose) of education."

[@markgresch9944]

The biggest issue is any school system, regardless if it is publically or privately run as this peice demonstrates is that any education system that is not propery funded, lacks proper oversight and doesn't undergo effective and independant auditing is doomed to fail. IE: When you strip out government and public oversight and loosen regulation out of education, there is an immediate negative effect. Coincidentally, smaller government and deregulation are traditional conservative principals.

[@whitneyr.846]

I went to a charter school when I was at risk of failing out of high-school (difficult home situation) and I thrived in it, and was able to make up credits I failed previously quickly (the goal was to catch up and then transfer back to my local high school). I think there is good aspects of charter schools, especially for people who are not nuero-typical (i.e. ADHD, dyslexia, etc.) But they should also be more checks and balances with the super intendant of school district. Our public school system is so flawed.

[@blairbrown4812]

@13:31-13:43 With due respect to the namesake,"The John Oliver Academy for Nervous Boys," sounds like the kind of place where 'inappropriate contact,' between students and teachers....and other students....and the individual student and their hand....not only takes place on an almost daily basis,but indeed,is both required and expected.

[@backey]

Gay in the url

[@Oddi0]

Nice catch.

[@Mediaright]

Nice pitch!

[@gundarsslitke7302]

Niceee

[@1234kalmar]

Well, it is a fabulous video :D

[@sweetjaysus4507]

im just gonna assume the SP stands for super and laugh like an eight year old at my objectivley amazing wit

[@jerico641]

Education and healthcare should never be operated on for profit basis (obviously).

[@hazukichanx408]

A simple truth, too often obfuscated, hidden and ignored by duplicitous politicians and lobbyists for people so wealthy they already have far more money than they or their family will ever need. Health and education are not products, nor are patients and students customers; health and education are, if anything, societal production mechanics that facilitate the smooth running of said society. The people, body of the nation, should be cared for and educated by the state so that they can focus on providing for one another and thus enrich the whole. People viewing and treating every single thing in life as a monetary exchange, just promotes some very worryingly excessive money-worship... which I think was one of those things that book that's popular in america tells you not to do? Something about the love of money being the root of all evil? Yeah, that book.^^

[@MichaelWilliamsWMA]

The Public Schools should have an online option that is nonprofit. Free MOOCs like Harvard/MIT's EdX & World Mentoring Academy are non-profits that use no Tax $'s. The online component can be combined with creative spaces like Makerspaces, Art residencies etc, to give Students "hand's on" learning experience. I'm certain that students won't be skipping trips to the Zoo or media labs. Follow youtube channel HomelessEducator about "Future of Education"

[@doingmoms3483]

Yes they should... It puts an incentive to ACTUALLY WORK

[@Breerox108]

+jerico641 You would think that would be obvious but it's quite a controversial opinion

[@doingmoms3483]

@@Breerox108 No it isn't. I think it's obvious that kids and schools should be competing. I think schools should have an incentive to actually work for our childrens future. But bcz all schools get the same funding, there is no reason for schools to work harder than others. Btw research shows that Charter schools do better than Regular schools.

[@michaeldeguzman8675]

i still can't believe mysteries of laura made it to 3 seasons...

[@3ghostsinatrenchcoat]

Wow. I had no idea this was going on. I know not every charter school is like this, as someone who went to charter schools for both elementary and middle school, but this problem needs to be addressed. Education is important.

[@gameswithgrace8954]

Is your profile picture Stevonnie dressed as Hermione? That's so cool!

[@3ghostsinatrenchcoat]

GamesWithGrace Haha yeah. It was for Halloween. I'll probably change it soon.

[@izdatsumcp]

You assume that this means government needs to do something and that the problem won't fix itself.

[@skirtyu0207]

An people wonder why the us gets low rating on international tests

[@tristanridley1601]

Sadly, this is a drop in the bucket compared to the failures of their normal public education system.

[@GeonQuuin]

+Tristan Ridley my school district was great though. it still is.

[@willythemailboy2]

The US gets low ratings because we count everyone, including the developmentally challenged students that other countries exclude from their numbers. Or in the case of several asian countries, the failures they simply don't allow to move into higher levels of education. If the US could run a test at 6th grade and simply kick out the students that didn't pass it, imagine how much higher our average ratings in high school would be.

[@GeonQuuin]

+Tristan Ridley but then again i went to a magnet school so it's kind of an exception.

[@tristanridley1601]

willythemailboy2 There are lots of low ratings of US education that have no such bias.

[@juliemclain5841]

The worst school I ever allowed my child to go to was Galapagos Charter School and they treated him so horribly the whole year, but then begged us to send him back so he could bring up their test scores! Oh, hell no.

[@DesignedbyHumans]

I went to an online school in Michigan and we had a graduation rate of less than 20%

[@ivanspoljaric9267]

This is my favourite rant channel

[@Emma-ri9xl]

X'D

[@victorsefan]

says who?

[@drdre4397]

+Victor Marinescu I'm assuming you're joking. His exact statement was that it was "my favourite rant channel";therefore, he says so. Was this not rather obvious? It wasn't a devious statement.

[@kittykat981]

+Themightyinvader aww you don't get the reference :(

[@victorsefan]

Themightyinvader says who?

[@GirtheAlienGoldfish]

I went to a charter school. I was one of the students the teachers didn't care about because I didn't get good grades. i struggled quite a bit. Even though I really tried, I didn't really do well. I never got the help I needed.

[@thalesan8790]

GirtheAlienGoldfish you have to make an effort to get help anywhere.....

[@AW-ex8fn]

@@_blank-_ it's a lottery to get a good teacher in public schools; especially when you're in an inner city like I was. I was lucky the schools I went to had teachers who cared. Not all but I had a few good ones and a few that I did not have but my friends enjoyed under their tutelage.

[@supermojo9672]

Sorry. Life is a beyotch

[@thagodwecreate5179]

I did great in school & became a drug addict dealer n criminal so ehhh life's what you make it. Ironically, i have more money n less debt than most people my age with degrees. I'm actually doing quite well considering i did everything they tell you not to do. Do i have regrets? Sure...if i could go back, I'd do more shit they told me not to do.

[@danielgunther4238]

Kim Kardashian Un, based on the experiences I have had with my own kids, it is hit or miss with individual teachers. Many of the teachers my kids have had were fantastic, had a passion for teaching...unfortunately, there have been a couple that made me question what the hell they were doing teaching at all. My beef is the manner in which subject matter is being taught: “connected classrooms”, every kid gets a chromebook, non-existent homework, no textbooks, and the use of “educational games” as part of the process. Times change, and all I see is a system setting kids up to fail.

[@michaelmoyo7250]

When he mentioned "The Mysteries of Laura", I was like ? what is this? Five seconds passed and I was like... !!!!

[@alecnolastname4362]

Oh that depiction or Rowan atkinsons "mr bean" is great, thank you.

[@sorio99]

6:10 Weird to watch earlier episodes from before John figured out the truth.

[@crimson3532]

I went to a charter school for great deal of elementary school and I can say it was the only time I was bullied through my years of schooling I remember feeling unindividualized by the extremely strict dress code and uniform by the way the whole point of the dress code was to decrease bullying I think I should also add that school was the only time my sister was bullied as well

[@putikboy]

When "privately" ran charter schools cost less and produces better results than government ran(or should I say union ran) schools, people should be worried. People are too obsessed with "privately ran" aspect of it and lose the most important point which is "why is the public school system in the US is so inept and almost criminally incompetent"? I think its only in the US this charter schools exist and the only reason they exist is because the public school system or the people who ran them are too dumb to produce good results.

[@7exasNinja]

Nope, ur all kinds of wrong. Public schools have little funding (with politicians wanting to cut school funding even more or do away with the department of education altogether.) Private schools make corruption easier, so the politicians love it. Why should I be worried if a private school produces better results for cheaper? That's the point. And, the step after that is to absorb that new better system into the public schools. Personally I like the idea of only public schools to force the rich and poor to school together. This way the rich pay for the best education. Poor and rich kids get to meet and grow up together. And, when the time comes for the rich kids to inherit their parents wealth they pick their friends to help them run the world. Kinda like those European countries with the best education system in the world.

[@putikboy]

7exasNinja "absorb that new better system into the public schools" are we talking about the real world here? Because government prides themselves in efficiency and adapting good systems right? They don't even reform even when they ran out of money like what happened in Detroit. Ideals are good, but if they don't match up to reality it's just a fool's dream.

[@putikboy]

***** Corporatism and big business are the result of big government providing them with tax loopholes. And they are not fucking up your education, the government and the teacher's union are doing the fucking themselves. Charter schools only exist because the public schools run by the government and the board of education is fucked up. Its only in the US were you find public education the cost more money to taxpayers than private ones.

[@sensitivedude]

+7exasNinja >Public schools have little funding Except they get about $25,000 tax dollars per student---which is 2-3 times more than the tuition of an average *PRIVATE SCHOOL*. Go lie somewhere else, cretin.

[@cinigs56]

On average charter school produce worse results than public schools. Specific charter schools do better than public so it is nice to have the option. However these better than public schools only make up about 1/5 of the charter school pool. Where as 2/5 of charter schools preform worse than public. I'm saying this as someone who went to 2 public schools (elementary, middle) 2 charter school (both middle one online, the other at physical location), and 2 private schools (elementary, high school)

[@jadonclifton]

I went to a charter school. For me it was great. I had incredible writing math and French teachers, and my French teacher was also my education specialist who’d meet with me every month to talk about class and life, took about 10 different music classes as well as drama for two years. It really let me express my interests and gave me a lot of freedom. But there was a big discrepancy between students. Some were creative and school oriented others would spend most of the time goofing off due to lax authority. It’s really a case by case basis. But I can’t dis charter schools because my and my sisters experience was fantastic and I’m so glad I didn’t go to regular high school

[@skjenco]

I would like to say the vast majority, but I do not have that type of data. However, 100% of the people I know with actual Charter School experience, have similar thoughts and feelings. Even people critical of a particular Charter School believe in the concept of Charter Schools. I know Education professionals that were originally very critical of Charter Schools come to believe that they have had a positive impact on education as whole--even for kids that do not attend Charter Schools. With thousands of Charters schools there is going to be some awful horror stories.

[@Tom-lg9ee]

A good reminder that modern schooling in general is very hit and miss with many students

[@alaininsanitypro8966]

To make it clear, this was about charter oversight issues, not that they’re terrible altogether despite what he said

[@cannedmullet]

If it weren't for my charter school, I would've been hating school and failing out. Now I love learning, and going to school to see my teachers and friends. I found who I was and who I wanted to be. Switching to a charter school was the best decision I've ever made.

[@satsunada]

Do you really know that though or are you making baseless assumptions? Are you just associating the aspect of getting in the school (a feeling of accomplishment) with the school itself? Meaning, are you convincing yourself that it's better simply because you are there and others are not? Just something to think on. Who knows? Maybe you missed out on an awesome teacher that could have taken your life a different direction in another school.

[@varana]

Noticed that he didn't actually call charter schools in itself a bad thing? This was more about regulation and oversight than about education.

[@TG-dr6sj]

I'm glad you found an educational opportunity that was right for you. As a teacher myself, that's ultimately my goal for all students. To me it sounds like you were just in a school with a poor climate of education and respect, and no student should have to go to a school like that. Unfortunately, there are just too many negligent charter schools to let slide. Public school has its issues, but it is at least more transparent to the public and accountable to the people.

[@cannedmullet]

+thewanderandhiscomp I do. I went to a regular public school for my freshman and sophomore year and it was a horrible match for me. I'm not saying charter schools are best for everyone, I think we just need to realize there are kids who wouldn't succeed in any other setting