From The Depths | Ep 2 | Battleship Cannon Fun! | Neter Campaign Gameplay

There are no missiles on this battleship.. I feel rather ill at this.
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[@stojankovacic1524]

"Blood for the blood god. Milk for the khorne flakes" -Lathrix, yes i spotted it

[@chrffchgdff7862]

Nikola Vukovic ikr

[@stojankovacic1524]

It's at 3:03 in the Ep.1

[@DuvetIVth]

No this was from his mouth in an ep of from the depths I guess a year ago, the meme itself is old Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne! Milk for my Khorne Flakes

[@doomguy974]

Those drones are still waiting for their milk.

[@thunderousavenger2382]

@@stojankovacic1524 interesting pfp you got there buddy, interesting name aswell, just a weird random question, you dont happen to be between the age of 16-20? if you do, tell me if you once had a discord with the first 3 letters of the name being Niv, or something along the lines of that.

[@siraaron1247]

It's a glass cannon, or in this case, a wood cannon.

[@ehow5678]

Joseph Evans no it's about twenty wooden cannons

[@infodeprived3119]

Ehow567 LOLOLOLOL *ded (that is legit funny)

[@ehow5678]

budderowen2 on youtube thank you

[@apollo4294]

Ehow567 why was humour two years ago so bad

[@arikotlyar4420]

LOLOLOLO*ded(that is legit funny)@@apollo4294

[@nicazer]

"For once I didn't want to use missiles." Who is this and what has he done with our Lathrix?!

[@tim3bomber]

Nicazer for real

[@tim3bomber]

Doesn't want missiles who is this

[@nicazer]

Not Lathrix. We must find where he lives to try and get the impersonator out and the real Lathrix in. He will convert that ship into all missiles happily.

[@bastiancortes667]

That feel when lathrix builds a frickin' battle ship from WW2 out fo Wood and you're still here like building box boats that move weirdly and you dont know even how to use PID systems for pitch and yaw controls and your boat is like having a party inside (All of these descriptions apply for me)

[@swiebelunknown6353]

m2 ughhhh

[@Mr-zo7bt]

Don't worry, I dont even have boats, I have metal boxes with airpumps inside xD

[@wurmcoilengine161]

I have small, cruddy airplanes that usually can't kill anything. My boats resemble needles.

[@theofficialgamer6679]

Bastian Cortes use the General pid in the air section, not the Ai pid. Then set your pitch propellers to thruster. If the ship still doesn't work set the top value to 0. You're welcome, hope this helps!

[@Tonatsi]

Bastian Cortes you forgot about the fact that he did it while drunk*

[@imperielgenecist1317]

Engineers log 2: I don’t know where gets these ship names, nor their designs, but it doesn’t matter I suppose. We also burnt down a town today. Or to be more accurate, we disabled their defenders and took the place. Apparently we’re to scrap the places for resources. Lathrix wants to get the “Malal’s Will on the field as soon as he can. I’ve looked over it’s blueprints and I have to say that he sure knows what he’s doing. In my opinion though, it needs a little more armour to stand up to some of Neters heavy hitters. Any way, this is engineer [redacted] signing off.

[@kabobmusic886]

Yes!!!! This is amazing!

[@awhahoo]

The engineer, is engihere

[@luigimrlgaming9484]

DISPENSER HERE

[@nimajneb8897]

being able to go through the entire vehicle is awesome.

[@nukacolared]

I second that.

[@guythatsgoodatnames6032]

I third that :) lel

[@koreyzhang1417]

i fourth that

[@neathanfernando2637]

I fifth that 😝

[@bruhmoment6100]

I'm afraid i'm not gonna sixth that :(. sry

[@ZandarRatesGames]

Drunk Engineering!!!

[@karate84]

German Engineering!!!

[@niklasniemi9382]

Same thing!!!

[@skeletalobserver406]

The best kind of engineering

[@watchrsj]

"I want to make flyers and subs mostly" Builds a glass cannon.

[@andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780]

its a wood cannon

[@ryokkeno]

"This was my idea of small..." Lathland, you never fail to inspire me with frustration. Between you and some of the other content creators, I just never stop building my craft.

[@herbenevolence4198]

When I get drunk, I build a big as ship with big as guns, WITH working A.I : lathland 2017

[@cuttle9901]

Wooden battleship. _Wooden battleship....?_ *_WOODEN BATTLESHIP?!?!_* y u do dis

[@smiledespite]

Ran outa foam

[@staymadg3]

Lathrix: "I hope you like the vehicle. Tell me in the comments below!" Me: SO COOOOOOOL

[@odawgtrooper3086]

2:46 so you're saying it's a Glass Cannon? That you made it drunk? I want to see you make a play through drunk making ships only xD

[@Lathland]

Honestly my drunk builds seem to just be far more aggressive versions of the regular builds I create :P

[@whitterman5544]

Lathland which we want, so do it XD

[@TheJosh4300]

Bur, how will being drunk so much affect Lathrix? We wouldnt want him to harm himself.

[@whitterman5544]

The thing is he's SMARTER when drunk, sooo

[@shlushe1050]

He loses his stammer when he's drunk too

[@guidelining3526]

you build very well drunk... might be a problem

[@Felix-wq6yb]

Lynette Jackson or a huge advantage :)

[@dagamerking]

or both!

[@sazzadhossan9851]

its an advantage :P more Drunken Engineering!!!!! #DrunkEngineer

[@guidelining3526]

lol yeah

[@antonflax814]

you say problem. I see progress

[@petercresswell57]

Who else want to see Lath do a wood only playthrough? Or at least for the first part

[@devanreid7727]

Peter Cresswell na the whole play through wood only. Against scarlet dawn with thousand of Malal wills

[@LyonsTheMad]

+oncmonkey No they are not, CRAM however is utter garbage, seeing as it: -is more innacurate -is slower -has less overall damage -is super vulnerable to LAMs This is not an issue of APS being ''OP broken powerfull'' and more CRAM just not being good enough, this is in fact an issue that is being actively worked on, as CRAM is getting another small buff next patch

[@LyonsTheMad]

No, it has been measured, and overall damage over time is far, far superior for APS. They also miss everything in the game that isn't 120+ meters long, a ship and

[@LyonsTheMad]

Are you kidding me? CRAMs being stupidly weak doesn't make APS strong. PAC, missiles and lasers are all things that exist.

[@infodeprived3119]

Peter Cresswell I like dis idea

[@EL_Megalomaniac]

when lathrix posts two from the depths videos a day apart

[@saveliy4319]

#girlythings

[@sillysaili]

*lathrix

[@treetalk_]

Excuse me? "Girly things", are you kidding me?

[@Hiro1oo1]

it's a meme

[@sebastianreyes2950]

Megalomaniac [EL] iiiii

[@omppusolttu5799]

later make a full metal malal's will and call it malal's wrath

[@luigimrlgaming9484]

Wath

[@heavythepootis11]

lathix is proplobly the only youtuber who does from the depths series permenedly

[@swaggydarkrai4585]

pls learn to spell

[@heavythepootis11]

omg i splelled wrong his name😂 and im from Finland soooo i can't english

[@Alexwav]

lol not any more

[@Tom_Cruise_Missile]

@@Alexwav he is again

[@Alexwav]

Tom Cruise Missile thanks I knew before

[@Keklord_]

Them tracers be like "we firin' a laser boys"

[@patrikcath1025]

When you literally build a Yamato

[@Jesus_Offical]

Yeahs

[@theconeezeanemperor1619]

Lathrix, do the story for the River rat (Also referred to as the WonderLust) missions, it is the backstory for the Neter campaign and it will all make sense.

[@theconeezeanemperor1619]

The DWG/WonderLust story and missions.

[@theconeezeanemperor1619]

Oh, and Ruger is actually an active member of the FTD community who built the new fortresses (the home base, the sinners outpost and the pre-built player craft)

[@LyonsTheMad]

Is? I thought he mostly disappeared almost a year ago.

[@theconeezeanemperor1619]

Well, was, but my point still stands.

[@pinbox5814]

And Lathrix never did the DWG story.

[@emberswords]

lathrix describes a fragile lot of firepower ship without using the term "glass cannon" once so proud of you lathrix

[@philurname6575]

when you zoomed out to the whole ship my eyes widened with amazement. That ship almost makes me want to play from the depths

[@Cheesecannon25]

I love this series, I keep coming back to it even a year later. The whole game has changed since.

[@opalthediloalt9595]

I see that ship at the start... OH MY GOSH! WTF SMALL!? WHAAAAT!!!??? THATS A BATTLESHIP IF I EVER SAW ONE!!! You have achieved a subscriber... +1 subscriber.

[@MrBrander]

Lol. Dat moment when he says "a little bit too much beer" and the camera pans. :D Edit: Lol that tour through the ship and then thinking that he did it all while being drunk. Lol. All what I could achieve while being drunk would be just bunch of stuff thrown together and you kind of might see the idea behind it if you had goodwill for it.

[@Kire2oo2]

can you have a timelapse or even have an seperate video for you building the ships btw i absolutley loved the ship

[@VtbrRex]

30:35 did the flyer just pull a "get down, Mr. President" move? It took the cram cannon shots that were aimed at the prowler. lol

[@epsilon7462]

hey Lathrix, you keep mentioning warhammer 40k, can we see your army pretty please?

[@epsilon7462]

I have adeptus mechanicus, watching your videos makes me want to commit heresy and I have love it :p

[@alextrulson93]

I wanna see his army, but isn't khorne and malal in Warhammer Fantasy?

[@epsilon7462]

khorne is in 40k aswell but Malal doesn't really exist anymore

[@crnobog]

I love the references to Malal in "If the Emperor had a TTS device" series :D

[@jamiekrutzfeldt3522]

malals dead (ish) krone if goin good

[@snoopy8152]

"oh 40,000 recourses is nothing" -Lathland

[@AyraWinla]

I loved the zoom out at the start; I genuinely thought the little bit we were seeing was the main part of the ship, and not a tiny canon at the front.

[@kronusaerospace8872]

When I first saw the thumbnail, I thought he retrofitted a Bulwark and replaced all of it's metal with wood.

[@liamonthetube]

You should rename the "Malal's Will" to the "O'Malley's Will" (because of the alcohol involved)

[@JabberwockOclock]

Malal doesn't exist, shut up about him :P Good going with the interior construction on the boat. You seemed to have a set of stairs arranged the wrong way, but their intended direction will be much clearer in the next patch so I'm sure you'll find them by then. Also these videos are just being churned out, I might get worried about the patch not hitting stable for you at this rate. Out of all the factions you intend on going after I believe LH has the fewest pending updates, so you won't miss much by attacking them if you get the chance. With personal weapons, I want the blunderbuss to do bonus damage to doors so much, I need to bother Khaz about it more. The grace period doesn't exist anymore last I checked, instead the size of enemy forces is being limited by their fleet points which are still very low since you haven't given them time to reinforce. NPCs don't exist anymore because they were laggy as hell and they were literally cheating aimbots, I'm in the process of removing their spawn pads from any design I can find them on. To explain the deal with the Prowler, the DWG tutorial missions set you up as the River Rat, some youngin who eventually gets betrayed by Captain Sal. Quest for Neter happens directly after the tutorial questline.

[@Karibanu]

Yeah, give it 45 mins on max reinforce - or however long it takes thme to get across the map - & there's something nasty at the zone N of the start - Conger, one of the chickens, even had a Kraken once. It'll be red tuna for many tiles else, though. I hate LH, grumble. Tachyons have to be one of the most aggravating things to fight. The Squatters popup comes at two hrs in - if you've not declared war by then they'll declare on you & that's the notification. No more panicing first 20 mins...

[@JabberwockOclock]

I went to check on the Fishing Hole, the "damage" you saw at 18:54 is actually just clever painting and construction to make that section of the fort look beat up.

[@LyonsTheMad]

Jabberwock0clock? Really Vorpalim?

[@JabberwockOclock]

Indeed I am. There is a connection between the names if you look for it.

[@LyonsTheMad]

Lol, I see that. But still.

[@least5560]

I remember watching this series when it first dropped, Since the new stuff has come out i've got the FTD bug again and need content while waiting for the new vids to drop, Nostalgia is real :)

[@KCGames-zq7tc]

I can't believe you don't have more subscribers. You are the best youtuber I know. I originally came to your channel for reassembly and have watched ever since. Thanks for the great content

[@kylesullivan1592]

lol, we really need to see lathrix make a huge platform like ship, something like the floating fortresses from C&C RA 3. That would be awesome.

[@surgingmist9429]

Lathrix, you should make a version of the Melal's Will without any repair bots and submit it for use as a campaign vessel.

[@LyonsTheMad]

No, it does not come even close to qualifying for any of the factions. Aside from being too boxy and lacking paint, it generally doesn't fit the guidelines of any faction.

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

+Flosi Lyons It looks like a less pretty Plunderer.

[@spicycruiser8205]

I laughed so hard when he said it was going to be small and it came out to be the size of a war ship

[@rodneydisney1080]

Really happy to see more of your builds and less captured or mass produced of one build. Would not mind to see some build videos, maybe not for the battleships but the subs and so on that we don't normally see. Thanks for the great content.

[@CrunchyApple]

I feel bad for deep water guard when i see 1 million frag shells

[@ihateeverything3972]

Awesome vehicle, seems like it could be part of the campaign since it's so crazy and over the top. You are a very productive person when drunk btw.

[@catz_ee]

I love they way that you commentate on the battles. It's like sports commentary, but better.

[@zoda2195]

lathlix i dont think i could ever get bored of from the dephts when im watching it from you

[@Mr-zo7bt]

Again, Lathrix add your creation to the workshop please. :D

[@gabrielhope4071]

Question, Could the blueprints to these vehicles be put on steams workshop. I know of some people (me) who would like to use them.

[@jaymorrison2419]

Man, classic From the Depths. Its SO fun looking at all of these old NPC designs. And watching Lathrix do things badly (like not building ships pulled out of game). I loved the old Prowler Elite designs. I kinda miss the 'story' stuff that the DWG had for the main Neter game..

[@BeardedZasso]

There is no one else who does FTD as well as you do, your designs, your videos... always looking forward to the next ones!

[@Tommy-mk9bo]

i love this game and im loving ur carfts.

[@harryrewcastle9444]

publish to workshop please

[@happyfeet7581]

Yes please me wants big boomie ship

[@kazjanik2572]

Your videos are amazing, not only are they quite entertaining but because you explain what you do I'm better able to build my own vehicles. I am never sick of your videos and want you to keep going! Please, never stop making videos that make people like me happy.

[@shakenblakel640]

I'm absolutely loving this series!!! Videos are great Lathrix!

[@bozak6231]

U should build a drone creating ship!!!

[@bobbyy1555]

i got from the depths and i have no idea how to play it XD but i do enjoy watching lathland building new stuff BTW LATHLAND!!!!!! CAN U BRING BACK BANISHED!!!!!!!!!! I NEED HELP ITS SO HARD TO SURVIVE!!!!!!!!!

[@theodoreluo2791]

Lathrix, I'm proud of you! You built a battleship so big that even you didn't realize it was that huge! :D

[@purpledevilr7463]

0:48 “that was the idea then I had a bit too much beer” -Lathrix

[@sillysaili]

Lathrix is so good at reading he couldn't read that the airship gantry was their base... Good job Lathrix! Help Lathrix by liking and replying to this comment so he notices!

[@Lathland]

Um.. The Airship Gantry is NOT their base - It is one of their outposts, like the last one we fought in the previous episode, exactly the same in fact other than it has a non-flying moray docked instead of an Atlas - It can produce units (As I mention in this video, and the last) but It's not the final base needed for victory, in fact you can win without even killing it :P The base I was refering to is called the 'Davy Jones Outpost' and that is the main base which creates the more well rounded forces, and is all that is needed for victory - Hope this clears a few things up haha :D

[@sillysaili]

but it said so you could have at least mentioned it :( i don't play ftd :( i have no MONEY so I can't afford it :( I is much sadness :(

[@sillysaili]

at least lathrix noticed me :D =D

[@sillysaili]

also why didn't you capture it then? a lot of resource! though i don't have good memory so i'll go back to see if you tried

[@Ranade_Empor]

Lathland maybe u should make An cramcannon turret that has two barrels and fires one after An other so it Will Be An repeating fire of cramcannonshells

[@nmills3]

Lathrix why don't you upload your stuff to the workshop anymore?

[@EclipseClemens]

Thank you for uploading more FTD content! This game is why I subscribed and I love seeing you play it.

[@Ark1nox]

YAYYYYY I WAS WAITIKG THE EPISODE SO MUCH THAT I DIDNT SLEEP AT ALL !!!!!!! LOVE YOU SO MUCH LATHRIX

[@echotech9972]

Wow lath a wooden battleship what's next a sub made of wood p.s love your vids

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

Actually yes. He made just that...

[@thatnerdbird6051]

I miss the building montages.

[@SolSteal]

This is the first time I've seen make something for looks rather then effectiveness and efficiency and dam does it look awesome and life life with the hallways/Corridors keep up the good work.

[@heartless6915]

Yaaaaaaaay! Thank You So Much For Making A Ship! I Love How You Build Them So It's A Win Win For Me!

[@jhvhashfhjsahf]

OMFG LATHERIX MADE ANOTHER VIDEO!!!!!!!YAYYYYY

[@EnderPig]

Justin Kang LOL

[@abyssstrider2547]

nice! you finally are starting to make your creations more decorational than effective

[@lieutenantbites5739]

That little message you got after capturing the resource zone is a message from the DWG captain or whoever. The storyline is that he took you under his wing, taught you everything you know, yadda yadda and then betrayed you in some way

[@centurion_a4136]

Lathrix make the command version in to a carrier for the korne flakes

[@Jojob541]

Can the Malal's Will destroy itself?

[@Lathland]

Thankfully the failsafes stop that from happening, the center weapons can rarely clip the barrels of each other though - without the failsafes It would tear itself apart :P

[@Jojob541]

Sad. Malal will not be pleased about this :D

[@crnobog]

Well a couple of nukes placed on the ship set to detonate on 70% hp or lower can take care of that, and now that I said that I think that is exactly what I will start doing from now on

[@Gate_Of_Gluttony]

i loved when he admitted he drinks beer, like how do you do this under the influence? you are a god of drunk

[@brendanmewburn1056]

Interesting side note, the wanderlust is the tutorial vessel from the story of river rat (the player) and you modify it throughout a very small campaign to give it all the weapons and defences it has. Kinda cool

[@maddysteelward9397]

Lathland, make a cram-sub. Lathland if you like the idea please anwser.

[@maddysteelward9397]

And why a cram-sub. Well imagine a 500mm explosive cramshell hitting the underside of a ship. :)

[@LyonsTheMad]

Yes. now keep imagining that, because it ain't gonna happen in game with the way CRAMs work.

[@_grug__]

TheMadDragon 772 Crams are slow enough on their own, and water would make it so much worse.. The AI doesnt add water drag into the aim calculations.

[@madnotbadjenkins9005]

420 PRAISE IT . \[T]/ . [*] . \/

[@EL_Megalomaniac]

madnotbad JENKINS PRAISE THE SUN!!!\[*]/

[@Glebasik148]

PAISE THE SUN \[T]/

[@Bees-ol9mm]

PRAISE THE SUN \[T]/

[@joshualontoc4465]

PRAISE BRETHREN \[T]/

[@laurinmohr9810]

he should do high engineering :O

[@ObsidianHunter99]

22:04 according to the official lore your character had a family that lived on a wanderlust ship, the father had one of the pirate lords take you under his wing and teach you how to build ships, but naturally, the lord betrayed you by killing your family and leaving you for dead, that bit right there was the pirate lord who betrayed you talking to you.

[@ObsidianHunter99]

ok nvm watched a bit further into the video and it seems you already know what's going on so just ignore my rambling please

[@ObsidianHunter99]

on the other hand the message at 22:41 was supposed to be when the DWG declares war on you

[@flamingmoose1479]

I stopped watching FtD for a while, but your fast-paced play style has gotten me hooked again.

[@BlandTomtarOchTroll]

I am conflicted... I want to keep watching but this is clearly a heretic channel, and I am a lot of things but I am not a supporter of herecy!

[@bushfoxanimations8321]

FIRST AND NOTIFICATION SQUAD REPORTING IN

[@EL_Megalomaniac]

Tux Animations anti-notification squad where are your dislikes on this??

[@sillysaili]

#same

[@tonofashman]

TonOfAshMan Reporting in

[@aerbon]

im here!

[@mon0522]

Tux Animations ohai

[@oneglovegamer7562]

Revisiting this for the third time, and I think have a great super dreadnought for my brand new campaign. It is called holusk, and is not out yet, but one of the factions, the Trade Federation has a ship called the Totem, a godly design, and it is pretty terrifying compared to the other designs in Holusk.

[@leinine1834]

I LOVE it when you build a high damage dealing vehicle, they're badass

[@TheHahanicevideo]

10:49 ''OUA ENEMIES HIDE IN MEHTAL BAWKSES, DA COWARDS! TEH FEWLZ!!! WE - We should take away....their Mehtal BAWKSES''

[@andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780]

didnt know we had greenskins on are side

[@michelkrein]

amazing ship! keep up the good work for the lathrixian empire!

[@alexanderkopke2420]

I'm totally in love with these long episodes

[@charliescheirmann2926]

I think I would get this game not to make really big and elaborate ships, but to make one or two small cheap ships that I mass-produce so I can say "Oh, you took out 10 of my ships? I have 100 more to take its place!", somewhat of a glass cannon. Correct me if I'm wrong but from what I understand a ship's AI will auto target all of it's weapons on a singular ship until it's destroyed so if you were to use 5-10 small ships at a long distance so the rockets and such will take awhile to actually hit your ships, so much more ammo and time then actually needed; whilst the rest of your ships reek havoc when that other poor ship is used as literal cannon-fodder.

[@AdNecrias]

Oh awesome, you are back at Neter. I'm looking forward to seeing this.

[@greyminneham495]

Love your drunk engineering builds :D Please, please make use of a warpdrive in at least one vehicle. It's so powerfull and cool looking! I like to use it on the larger capital airships to get out of range while the CRAMs are loading, then get in, deliver the punch and quickly get out again.

[@lokishangout4286]

Loving this Series Lathland, keep it up!

[@tkthelms1273]

Hay, lathland, I believe the full saying is: Blood for the blood God, Skulls for the skull throne, Milk for the khore flakes, And smooth jazz for the boys who collect them.

[@caedmon6225]

That thing is gorgeous, you're right to be proud. What a hilarious mess of firepower.

[@awesomefuzz4008]

Hey lathrix! I thought of some interesting challenges for future campaigns. The first is to not use any of the systems you normally use (fragmentation weapons, missles, advanced cannons, electric engines, RTGs) and complete a campaign. The second is to use only kinetic damage, like rams or thumper shots. The third is to never use any turrets, and only anti-air or unguided missiles. Finally, use railguns as your only weapon.

[@azureelkas2951]

I still have no idea how lathrix builds these things, I could never build something that looks so good and performs so well.

[@GutteralMasticator]

Epic as always ! I think for now it may be cheaper to install a few shields :). BTW did the update for Terratech mess your game up? or are you taking a breather from it ?

[@michaelc.4321]

I love Lathrix's vids, especially ftd. It appeals to my more methodical and analytical side of thought. Great work mate! But, are you going to add armor in the future to the ship?

[@SabermanPlace]

Lathrix, The Captain Sal Part at 22:30 is referencing the Tutorial story missions, were it teaches you how to build basic lams, CRAM and missiles.

[@BrokenLifeCycle]

That ship was gorgeous. And the best part about it? It's naturally buoyant without air pumps and EMP retardant.

[@melfely474]

Lathland: its so many shells Me: no lathland its a doom line u made out of shells

[@WHAT_TAHW]

Loving the new Series, Lath! :D

[@divedweller4295]

0:55 - You monster! What won't that obliterate in seconds? 1:10 - Great to see Malal getting some attention. He will strike back from the Retconium and bring havoc to ALL! Sad it'll be renamed. 27:20 - Doesn't Malal wish to destroy *all* the other gods?

[@cloverpuppydog]

Yay for Malal! God of Malice! Woo! So happy seeing references, you should name a craft after Kaleb Daark, would love to see that!

[@gomontss]

With the sub/flyer plan, maybe have a sub that makes and launches small suicidal rocket flyers, or a flying heli-carrier, or have a flyer that makes and drops rammers, or a sub that uses harpoons to impale the enemy on itself

[@terrariola]

"Captain Sal's Fleet" is part of the DWG story mode, basically, the Wanderlust was your family home, Captain Sal took it, and abandoned your family on a leaky raft.