Latin vs French | Can French speakers understand spoken Latin?

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Ecolinguist

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Latin Vs French - at last, the language challenge you've been waiting for! Luke Ranieri is back on the channel to run a challenge for the French speakers this time.
Hopefully, by listening to the series of language challenges in this video you'll be able to make out Latin and French similarities and differences. You're welcome to turn on the captions but we decided to focus on the spoken language mostly. As you know the French language does come from Latin and it's spoken in many countries all over the World so for this episode we invited friends from France, Cameroon and Quebec to get three different perspectives on the topic of Latin and French similarities. We start the video with the classic Ecolinguist format of a word guessing game - Luke explains a word in fluent Latin and French speakers need to understand what he's talking about. The following challenges are prerecorded conversations in Latin spoken by Luke and his girlfriend. 🤓
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🦂 Luke - Latin educator from the USA
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🟥 Elisa - French teacher and content creator from France;
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📲 Instagram: @frenchmorningswithelisa
🤓 Stephanie Guico - channel subscriber from Quebec.
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🟥 Tony Woks - language content creator from Cameroon,
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📝 TRANSCRIPTS: If you're curious, you can see the transcripts for all the monologues and dialogues in this PDF file: drive.google.com/file/d/1Ezz7...
Time Stamps 🕰:
0:00 - Intro
1:26 - 1. Challenge
4:43 - 2. Challenge
9:41 - 3. Challenge
16:22 - 4. Challenge
20:52 - 5. Challenge
29:15 - Commentary in English
🎥Recommended videos:
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🦂 Latin vs Italian vs Spanish vs Portuguese | Can they understand it? | #2 → • Latin vs Italian vs Sp...
🇫🇷🇮🇹🇧🇷🇲🇽French Language | Can Italian, Spanish and Portuguese speakers understand? → • French Language | Can ...
🇷🇴🇨🇦🇲🇽Romanian Language | Can Spanish and French speakers understand it? → • Romanian Language | Ca...
🇷🇴 🦂 Romanian vs Latin Speakers | Can they understand it? → • Romanian vs Latin Spea...
🤓 Can Spanish, Portuguese, and Italian speakers understand Latin? → • Latin Language Spoken ...
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@CommonCommiestudios
@CommonCommiestudios Жыл бұрын
Alternative title: The rebels of the family come to visit their great-grandfather
@lissandrafreljord7913
@lissandrafreljord7913 Жыл бұрын
If Latin is their great-grandfather, who is their grandpa and daddy?
@HasufelyArod
@HasufelyArod Жыл бұрын
Best title ever
@wyqtor
@wyqtor Жыл бұрын
@@lissandrafreljord7913 Grandpa is Vulgar Latin, dad is Medieval French.
@samgyeopsal569
@samgyeopsal569 Жыл бұрын
@@wyqtor great great great grand father is proto-Indo-European
@vexator19
@vexator19 Жыл бұрын
​@@samgyeopsal569 it's proto italic
@ScorpioMartianus
@ScorpioMartianus Жыл бұрын
Merci to everyone! It was a great time.
@Ecolinguist
@Ecolinguist Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Luke! This project has been so much fun! You did a great job guiding them through the meanders of Latin! 🦂🤓
@FrauWNiemand
@FrauWNiemand Жыл бұрын
I'd like you to make this challenge with Germanic languages like German and Dutch, too. Please ask Norbert.
@Andrea_Alesiani
@Andrea_Alesiani Жыл бұрын
Mactissime Luke! Semper laetor te invenire in his pelliculis Ecolinguistae!
@Carnifindion
@Carnifindion Жыл бұрын
@@Andrea_Alesiani Mihi quoque
@Romanophonie
@Romanophonie Жыл бұрын
Optimus es, Luciī!
@FrenchmorningswithElisa
@FrenchmorningswithElisa Жыл бұрын
Thanks again for the invitation Norbert ! This was so much fun !
@Ecolinguist
@Ecolinguist Жыл бұрын
Thank you again, Elisa! 🤗 It's always a pleasure working with you! 🤓
@Romanophonie
@Romanophonie Жыл бұрын
Tu as super bien fait, Elisa ! 👏
@rugueuxbysurson3118
@rugueuxbysurson3118 Жыл бұрын
??????/ Pourquoi l'anglais ?
@Mirabai_
@Mirabai_ Жыл бұрын
@FrenchMorningsWithElisa we've been missing Liga Romanica so bad 😭
@jonas8993
@jonas8993 Жыл бұрын
@@rugueuxbysurson3118 heu...
@hurtigheinz3790
@hurtigheinz3790 Жыл бұрын
I'm native German and never learned French but I had 4 years of Latin in school. I'm amazed at how much I do understand in both languages. Such a great video!
@canko15
@canko15 Жыл бұрын
Luke sheds charisma wherever he is
@amadeusmza
@amadeusmza Жыл бұрын
Si sos argentino, bonita foto de perfil ... Buena idea para una bandera.
@bramantyoprahoro7284
@bramantyoprahoro7284 Жыл бұрын
Hail Caesar Lucius!
@DrWhom
@DrWhom Жыл бұрын
and hairs
@bramantyoprahoro7284
@bramantyoprahoro7284 Жыл бұрын
@@DrWhom Bald men attract more women than hairy ones. ☺
@teodorugabriel2175
@teodorugabriel2175 Жыл бұрын
This man is a clown
@bustavonnutz
@bustavonnutz Жыл бұрын
Only through interactions like this do you really see how much German/Frankish & Gaulish have influenced the French lexicon & phonology.
@steamfunk19
@steamfunk19 Жыл бұрын
80% of the french vocabulary still comes from latin though
@bustavonnutz
@bustavonnutz Жыл бұрын
@@steamfunk19 That means that 1/5 French words don't though. That's heavy, & unlike English those non-Latin words are likely not as redundant or underutilized. Gaulish & Frankish are the biggest two, but now even English (e.g. Weekend, Email, etc) are worming their way into French ironically. Language is fascinating.
@steamfunk19
@steamfunk19 Жыл бұрын
​@@bustavonnutz I would be careful with this Gaulish-Frankish assumption. As a linguistics student I was told there's only 500 gaulish words in the french language and all of them are related to agriculture so it's very limited. The franks had more influence on phonology than on the vocabulary so to speak (1000 germanic words from this period remain approximately) which might explain why french sounds different. The foreign words come from the arab language, we borrowed a lot of words from the Italians during the renaissance but also from classical latin and greek and yeah lately english turns out to but the first language to be borrowed from
@skellagyook
@skellagyook Жыл бұрын
@@steamfunk19 I don't think all the Gaulish words relate to agriculture, though many, perhaps most, relate to it along with nature in general (alot of words for plants/trees, animals, and natural phenomena/features). But there are also more basic vocabulary words like craindre/to fear, aller/to go, petit/small, maint/many, and others that are thought to come from Gaulish.
@delta40031
@delta40031 11 ай бұрын
​@@steamfunk19 Do not forget that a lot of Germanic words had a latin origin (living next or within the Roman Empire), so Germanic tribes brought many "Germanized" latin words to new conquered lands that sounded pure Germanic but were not.
@AdamSlatopolsky
@AdamSlatopolsky Жыл бұрын
As Spanish speaker, Latin was strangely very familiar to my ears. I could not get everything but in general, I could understand what Luke was saying. Some of the sentences were really close to the Spanish. "Aedificium in quo homines habitant" = Edificio en el que los hombres habitan Tam felix sum! = Tan feliz soy! French, however, sounds really different but written is easy to catch. It was a great video. Thanks for it :)
@Tiqerboy
@Tiqerboy Жыл бұрын
"Aedificium in quo homines habitant" also easy for anyone who speaks French. You're right about reading French over understanding it spoken. I'm the same way with Spanish. I was able to get around in Mexico because many of the words looked familiar enough to me.
@guillermorivas7819
@guillermorivas7819 Жыл бұрын
Spanish is not as distant to Latin. It's arguably the 2nd closest language to Latin overall but, at times, it is even closer to Latin than Italian -- especially in the verb conjugation and ossified words.
@guillaumechevallier2545
@guillaumechevallier2545 Жыл бұрын
Aedificium in quo homines habitant = Un édifice dans lequel les hommes habitent Maybe it seem different for a foreigner, but as a french speaker these 2 look higgggghly similar :)
@alrisan71
@alrisan71 Жыл бұрын
​@@guillermorivas7819 Junto con saludar, creo que tu afirmación es objetable: es difícil realizar una comparación objetiva, especialmente cuando el español y el italiano perdieron el sistema de casos y declinaciones tan característico del latín. Indudablemente ambas lenguas descienden del latín, pero afirmar que una a veces es más cercana al latín que otra parece provenir más bien de un sesgo de selección (cherry-picking) que de un consenso entre especialistas, más aún al compararlo con el latín clásico que debe haber sido hablado por una minoría culta muy reducida dentro de todo el imperio. Y aún si lo fuera, no tendría ninguna relevancia práctica aparte de la anecdótica. Saludos.
@aleksinatetka
@aleksinatetka Жыл бұрын
I've been speaking French almost my whole (long) life. I had Latin classes at the University. Nevertheless, I understood only about 20% of everything. Donc, amis francophones, chapeau! Luke, excellent as always. Thank you all, thank you Norbert 🥰
@alovioanidio9770
@alovioanidio9770 Жыл бұрын
That was so cruel, Norbert. Loved it.
@Ecolinguist
@Ecolinguist Жыл бұрын
@WolfgangSourdeau
@WolfgangSourdeau Жыл бұрын
As a French speaker, I am very impressed at the performance of the three "contestants". With the little I remember from Latin and Italian, I could recognize some words here and there but the rythm and the tones were too unsettling to understand anything meaningful. With regards to Luke's comment, I doubt anyone without any knowledge of Latin or any other romance language would fare that well.
@lauras1553
@lauras1553 Жыл бұрын
I'm French but I agree with what two of them mentioned: I also know Spanish and it helped way more than French. Well, I still didn't get most of it 😅 but what I did understand was mostly based on Spanish knowledge.
@Lostouille
@Lostouille Жыл бұрын
Moi ce sont mes 5 ans d'italien lv3 qui m'ont aidée là 🤭
@underaveragecuber7437
@underaveragecuber7437 Жыл бұрын
I can vouch for what Luke said at the end about making this more difficult. I've been using LLPSI to learn Latin for the past few months and was a little bit surprised at how hard it to understand the Latin in this video, especially given that I could very easily understand everything he was saying in the other Latin videos on this channel. I breathed a sigh of relief when I heard him say he purposefully made it hard!
@baerlauchstal
@baerlauchstal Жыл бұрын
Yes, this! I learned Latin at school, and speak a little Spanish and French, and watch a lot of Luke's stuff, and I struggled *mightily* with most of these tasks!
@erictrombini8519
@erictrombini8519 Жыл бұрын
ya I was kind of confused when he used the verb 'comparare' instead of 'emere' for to buy when he translated that seinfeld joke, as "emere" is just that standard word you see often.
@cartlaidiania
@cartlaidiania Жыл бұрын
@@erictrombini8519 what’s funny is comparare is more similar to many of the contemporary Latin words for “to buy.”
@erictrombini8519
@erictrombini8519 Жыл бұрын
@@cartlaidiania yes like comprar in portuguese, but when I'm in the Latin mindset 'comparare' doesnt come to my mind for 'to buy' but rather 'emere'. When I hear comparare, I think of its standard definition 'to compare' or 'to join together'. Comparare does actually become the word 'to buy' in many of the romance language but I guess where it differs is in idiomatic expression.
@Ecolinguist
@Ecolinguist Жыл бұрын
Let me know if the French title is translated correctly. I used last minute google translation to be able to publish the video today. :) Also if you spot any issues with the captions please let me know. I hope you're going to enjoy this video as much as I did! 🤗
@martelkapo
@martelkapo Жыл бұрын
You're the best, Norbert!
@burisha2351
@burisha2351 Жыл бұрын
👌
@FrauWNiemand
@FrauWNiemand Жыл бұрын
I'm German and I can understand it, but could you maybe add some timestamps, please?
@Ecolinguist
@Ecolinguist Жыл бұрын
@@martelkapo Dankon! Vi estas vere la plej bona! ❤
@Imsemble
@Imsemble Жыл бұрын
The French title is good :) Thanks for the video as always
@reactions5783
@reactions5783 Жыл бұрын
I would imagine that Latin would be easier to understand to native Italian or Spanish speakers than French.
@hawoaliahmed6996
@hawoaliahmed6996 Жыл бұрын
i barely understabd it and is just because i did it at the liceo
@andrebrait
@andrebrait Жыл бұрын
I'm used to how Luke phrases it so it's easier for us to understand it. In these videos I understand most of it, after the initial shock. Native Portuguese speaker, learning Italian for a few months now, but the first video I watched was before I started learning Italian. Italian helps a lot with getting used to gender and plurals, since it's more similar to Latin than Portuguese is.
@lrez7785
@lrez7785 Жыл бұрын
Why?
@amjan
@amjan Жыл бұрын
Of course it is. Watch other videos with Latin and Spanish/Italian speakers.
@combatantezoteric2965
@combatantezoteric2965 Жыл бұрын
in spanish some latin adverbs like nunca(
@Capyrate
@Capyrate Жыл бұрын
That was fun! 😄 I have roughly the same level of understanding of Latin as the people in this video, so that was definitely interesting to watch. Thank you for the video! 🙏 Greetings from France 🇫🇷
@igorwillian621
@igorwillian621 Жыл бұрын
Como falante de Português, entendi mais o latim do que o francês
@michaelsolorzano4358
@michaelsolorzano4358 Жыл бұрын
Eu tambem (sou da California). Adivinhei certo a primeira palavra. Não vi a segunda, terceira, etc
@Satin_Persona_Latina
@Satin_Persona_Latina Жыл бұрын
claro né mano, o francês pegou bastante palavras de varias línguas pra ficar do jeito que é hoje.
@allejandrodavid5222
@allejandrodavid5222 Жыл бұрын
​@@Satin_Persona_Latina português também ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@Satin_Persona_Latina
@Satin_Persona_Latina Жыл бұрын
@@allejandrodavid5222 sim mas não mudou ao extremo pra ficar como "primo distante" das outras linguas latinas.
@allejandrodavid5222
@allejandrodavid5222 Жыл бұрын
@@Satin_Persona_Latina sim, certo
@CouchPolyglot
@CouchPolyglot Жыл бұрын
Two of my favourite languages KZbinrs in one video 😍😍😍 I love Elisa's and Luke's channels!! I am always surprised at how much Latin I can understand from such videos, it was not my biggest strength at school 😅
@hoangkimviet8545
@hoangkimviet8545 Жыл бұрын
French:"I am your nephew." Latin: "How can I get such nephew?"
@YourCreepyUncle.
@YourCreepyUncle. Жыл бұрын
Daughter, not nephew.
@guillermorivas7819
@guillermorivas7819 Жыл бұрын
As a Spanish speaker I understood Latin far greater than French. French sounds like a genuine foreign language whereas Latin sounds like something not so foreign at all. I also understood the gist of what Luke was saying in Latin. Unum, duo, tres = Latin Uno, dos, tres = Spanish Tam felix sum = Latin Tan feliz soy (soy tan feliz) = Spanish
@sans_hw187
@sans_hw187 Жыл бұрын
Mi idioma nativo es el francés Sería porque él dice cosas básicas en latín, si fuera un texto más amplio y complicado, entenderías igual casi nada del latín escuchándolo como pasa con el francés! Y leyendo, te resultaría mucho más fácil entender el francés que el latín
@guillermorivas7819
@guillermorivas7819 Жыл бұрын
@@sans_hw187 , El latin es un idioma mas complicado que todas las lenguas romances. No obstante, el latin hablado es entendible para nosotros quienes hablamos el espanol -- hasta se oye muy parecido al nuestro idioma tal y como nos sucede con el italiano. Es verdad que el latin basico es mas entendible. El frances hablado casi ni entendemos nada mientras en escrito si lo entendemos mas.
@YourCreepyUncle.
@YourCreepyUncle. Жыл бұрын
It sounds more "foreign", but it isn't.
@acirka
@acirka Жыл бұрын
Un, deux, trois= français Uno, dos, tres =spanish not that far either... ;)
@serfin01
@serfin01 Жыл бұрын
@@sans_hw187 El problema con el francés es su pronunciación. Su fonología, como el portugués europeo, resulta extraña para el resto de los hablantes de lenguas romances. El francés mantiene, artificialmente, una escritura etimológica que lo hace comprensible, pero a la hora de la verdad, en su forma oral, resulta casi ininteligible.
@ArmandoD10S
@ArmandoD10S Жыл бұрын
Very good to invite an African! People use to forget that there is more French speaking people in Africa than anywhere else in the world!
@Thelaretus
@Thelaretus Жыл бұрын
Lingua francogallica āfricāna vērē mālō. Tam clāra est!
@WolfgangSourdeau
@WolfgangSourdeau Жыл бұрын
The dialogues bring a very nice format variation. Also, Luke is a very welcoming host. It's nice to see how he encourages people.
@HasufelyArod
@HasufelyArod Жыл бұрын
I love everything you produce and when Lucius Ranierius is here, I know we all are in for a lingüistic treat.
@thegoon33
@thegoon33 Жыл бұрын
Its amazing to see how much influence the Franks and Gauls had on French.
@manfredneilmann4305
@manfredneilmann4305 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree. As a German I always wondered why French seems to be the only Romance language without a trilled R (except in parts of Southern France), instead of a uvular R sound as in Standard German.
@sans_hw187
@sans_hw187 Жыл бұрын
@@manfredneilmann4305 the uvular r sound in german comes from french influence and not the other way around! This R developed in French and then spread to other languages like Standard German or Portuguese
@manfredneilmann4305
@manfredneilmann4305 Жыл бұрын
@@sans_hw187 That's really interesting! Do you also know why within the Scandinavian languages standard Danish and certain regions in Sweden (Scania) and Norway (Stavanger) also use a uvular R sound?
@tonyhawk94
@tonyhawk94 Жыл бұрын
@@manfredneilmann4305 The -R is French and developed later in the Germanic world. However your point is still valid for -ö and -ü sounds, as well as the fact that French always put the articles with verbs and many other germanic heritage i cannot list them all... :)
@juanme555
@juanme555 Жыл бұрын
The franks had very little influence on most French dialects, even Parisian French. The gauls yes, they had a lot more. The germanic influence on the French language mostly comes from the industrial age though, through Prussia, old French was properly spoken and writen all over Paris and it read and sounded a LOT more similar to occitan than modern French.
@cosmina.m.7570
@cosmina.m.7570 Жыл бұрын
As a romanian, I' ve understood the number 1 around 95%. I just missed one or two words, and that scared me. So I got the word after the first sentence in latin.
@gheorghitaalsunculitei9146
@gheorghitaalsunculitei9146 Жыл бұрын
The first one suprised me, I was like: He is speaking in Latin how do I understand every single word ??????
@wyqtor
@wyqtor Жыл бұрын
I thought it was just me b/c I have some knowledge of Italian and Spanish, as well as some exposure to Latin. Se pare că suntem buni la ghicit cuvinte din latină!
@Yorgos2007
@Yorgos2007 Жыл бұрын
I am Hungarian and I speak Italian, I have also understood part one perfectly. Part two was more complicated.
@ionbrad6753
@ionbrad6753 Жыл бұрын
Me too. But I also know French and some Italian & Spanish. Edificiu, habitat - are recent loanwords in Romanian, from Latin thru French and/or Italian.
@Morrov
@Morrov Жыл бұрын
I don't speak any Romanca language and I managed to get roughly what he was talking about. I guessed house/apartment. Cognates and loanwords from Laitn and French in both English and my native Polish were enough hah
@guillermorivas7819
@guillermorivas7819 Жыл бұрын
Sardinian (logudorese/nuorese) versus Latin should be done. It would finally show all of us if Sardinians can understand Classical Latin.
@mohamadmosa8116
@mohamadmosa8116 Жыл бұрын
I agree, definitely would be interesting to see!!
@RickJaeger
@RickJaeger Жыл бұрын
Sure, I imagine it will just be a matter of getting a day when all three Sardinians on the island can have the same day off.
@Arkilonn_
@Arkilonn_ Жыл бұрын
I am russian, who is studying french and this is very interesting experience for me, because I can understand pretty clearly first two quests and guess it right Great format, wish it would be more)))
@mohamadmosa8116
@mohamadmosa8116 Жыл бұрын
Words can't describe how I'm happy to see latin series once again 🤩, great job as always Norbert and all participants!! Now what's missing is comparing Catalan, Occitan, Portuguese and Spanish varietes (other than Brazilian and Mexican respectively) with Latin😁!!
@user-ic4ce8xb5v
@user-ic4ce8xb5v Жыл бұрын
That was lovely, thanks Norbert, Luke, and all participants!
@airindd5528
@airindd5528 Жыл бұрын
OMG my favorite family the romances vs their origin!!!!! And he is the best for this type of Latin videos!! Thank you!!!!!
@Unbrutal_Rawr
@Unbrutal_Rawr Жыл бұрын
I really love seeing insightful people like Elisa relying on their intuition to arrive at things they shouldn't by all accounts be able to figure out. It's obvious from her comments at the end of the video that she knows how important listening to those little clues is in language learning, but still. I'm always excited when I trust my intuition and it doesn't let me down, and I too know to apply it while learning languages, but even I was surprised by how accurate her guesses were. Good job at not doubting yourself, Elisa!
@CrisSelene
@CrisSelene Жыл бұрын
I always love these Latin challenges. Great job all around! I recognised the Seinfeld quote as soon as you said "I could sell my mother" And during the 3rd challenge I was "screaming" the seaside until Eliza mentioned it.
@ilariomichelini4616
@ilariomichelini4616 Жыл бұрын
this is always great! really great! my french is not that good, so I struggled a bit with the speed of the spoken french-quebec parts, but it was fun as always!
@p.morgan4084
@p.morgan4084 Жыл бұрын
I'm French and learned some Latin at school although it was a long time ago and frankly I found the challenge really difficult, it's much more difficult for us than understanding Italian for instance which is fairly easy for me. I got the first one right (I thought of a multifamily housing building, and even remembered it was called "insula", I think from some Asterix comic). I got part of the second one, thought it was in a restaurant or a dining room and that the guest was talking to a boy (puer) bringing him food. The other ones were hard: I got that in one case it was windy but that was about all, thought the fourth one was in the airport or something and I heard something about the military, but frankly I could not figure out the story. The last one escaped me entirely, I just understood it was a married couple because the man said "salve uxor" and I vaguely remembered that "uxor" was a married woman. Of course with individual words like the first one it would have been much easier, but still it shows that there is a big gap between understanding individual words, often fairly similar to their French equivalents, and actually understanding a real dialogue in Latin. Veni, vidi, non vici !
@justoliver77
@justoliver77 Жыл бұрын
Ooohhh yay another video relating to Latin and Luke! Nicely done!
@pepintheshort7913
@pepintheshort7913 Жыл бұрын
I felt good about the first two challenges. Figured out the second by the word cibum. Two years of Latin in high school 30 years ago. And being married to a Latin teacher helped me absorb a bit.
@alinevondeling7068
@alinevondeling7068 Жыл бұрын
O latim soa maravilhosamente! Também ADORO ❤️ esses jogos linguísticos , são extremamente inteligentes e bem elaborados! Um dia quero participar, amigo 👍 saudações suíço- brasileiras 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇨🇭🇨🇭pozdrowienia 😉
@Ecolinguist
@Ecolinguist Жыл бұрын
Pozdrowienia! 🤗
@toscasam1353
@toscasam1353 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant!! I love French, I wish I knew it better and and I'm always interested in hearing native speakers. And Luke❤️ I love his Latin content, he is the best, so encouraging and talented. Thank you for this, Norbert.
@MrRubikraft
@MrRubikraft Жыл бұрын
I'm French without any knowledge of Spanish and a bit of knowledge of Latin, and I think I understood less than them, most of the time (the last challenge is the only one that I understood better than them, not because of my knowledge of French but actually from my knowledge of Latin). I think that this challenge would have been more interesting with French people without any knowledge of other romance languages. Because they all say at the end of the video that their knowledge of Spanish helped them a lot.
@martinmartin8940
@martinmartin8940 Жыл бұрын
omg! The last dialogue is Amphitruo by Plautus! We staged this play in our uni (etiam latine mihi dicendum est!)! Instantly recognized those lines!! 🤩
@arvantsaraihan5777
@arvantsaraihan5777 Жыл бұрын
alternative title: The Gaulish-Franks trying to understand Classical Latin.
@maryocecilyo3372
@maryocecilyo3372 Жыл бұрын
Interessante
@tonyhawk94
@tonyhawk94 Жыл бұрын
As a French i found it almost impossible to understand, my explanation would be : 1. We kept many latin archaïsms and modified them our way 2. We were geographically cut off the rest of the latin world (Alps and Pyrenees mountains) 3. We initially spoke a Celtic language that probably left traces and later came various Germanic tribes especially in the North were the old French was born So i guess all of this combined makes French quite far from Latin and the other Romance languages...
@Romanophonie
@Romanophonie Жыл бұрын
What a wonderful video! Well, any video with Luke is just excellent. Lucius valdē inteligentes est et perbenē Latīne loquitur! J’ai bien aimé l’entendre parler un peu de français. Et les concurrents étaient supers aussi !
@767scarecrow
@767scarecrow Жыл бұрын
Hey, do you know what happened to liga romanica?
@Romanophonie
@Romanophonie Жыл бұрын
@@767scarecrow Yes. A few months ago, they said they were taking a break until September/October. They should be back soon.
@sleepyjo9340
@sleepyjo9340 Жыл бұрын
I mean it makes perfect sense. Modern French originated from essentially hillbilly Germanics who were far away from major Latin urban areas. It certainly is interesting how similar middle French sounds too Latin though. As only recently has French become heavy in the accent.
@joenroute9646
@joenroute9646 Жыл бұрын
It is the Gallo Romans who spoken latin centuries before the arrival of the germanic tribes
@tonyhawk94
@tonyhawk94 Жыл бұрын
@@joenroute9646 Yes but the French variety that prevailed was the gallo-romance speach of the Paris region which was influenced by Germanic presence. Moreover before the great migration, northern Gauls was already relatively cut off from the rest of the empire for geographic, economic and military reasons so they were probably diverging before the arrival of the Franks.
@oakhauser
@oakhauser Жыл бұрын
The french language is old, complex, has many origins, has envolved many times since now ...what a long way from the gallo roman era
@amalkatrazz
@amalkatrazz Жыл бұрын
I don’t speak any Romance language at all but I was able to guess the answer to the first challenge on the spot thanks to all the Romanisms in English. When, shortly before the 2nd challenge started, Luke said “you’ll hear it twice”, it immediately gave me flashbacks to language exams 😂
@fanaticofmetal
@fanaticofmetal Жыл бұрын
Middle School flashback
Жыл бұрын
Este video me encanta!!!!
@puntakinte2049
@puntakinte2049 Жыл бұрын
This was great, I loved it. I did two years of latin in high school, I don"t remember much of it but I was able to get some of then words. In the beach story I got arena (sand in Spanish). Like Stephanie said, I think that me knowing Spanish helped more than knowing French.
@baerlauchstal
@baerlauchstal Жыл бұрын
Embarrassed to say I didn't make the link between "harena" and Spanish "arena". But yeah, Spanish was definitely an easier route in than French for me, even though I speak it less well. The phonology has undergone far less change, and I think the vocabulary too is closer.
@matf5593
@matf5593 Жыл бұрын
Merci beaucoup! C'était vraiment intéressant.... Le latin est tellement difficile mais quand on regarde les sous-titres, on peut comprendre un p'tit peu plus ...
@amadeusmza
@amadeusmza Жыл бұрын
J'ai compris quand Luke a dit "Lutetia". C'était l'ancien nom de Paris.
@alexj9603
@alexj9603 Жыл бұрын
Il a même prononcé le nom complet de la ville: "Lutetia Parisiorum".
@ionbrad6753
@ionbrad6753 Жыл бұрын
Third challenge: harena is met only as a regional and/or archaic word in Romanian (arină), meaning sand or beach. It gave name to the city of Reni (former in Moldavia, now in Ukraine) - which was along a Danube beach.
@intiorozco5063
@intiorozco5063 Жыл бұрын
In Spanish the common word for sand is 'arena' so that was obvious.
@chuisdaniellangues9288
@chuisdaniellangues9288 Жыл бұрын
Dos de los idiomas que mas me gustan 😍😍
@bacicinvatteneaca
@bacicinvatteneaca Жыл бұрын
ARENA CALET! That amused me, how strongly I heard and understood it the second time while completely zapping over it the first time
@user-vl1oz1qt9x
@user-vl1oz1qt9x Жыл бұрын
Moi qui connais un peu de latin, j'ai eu bien des difficultés à comprendre les dialogues, surtout le dernier, peut-être aussi à cause du rithme accéléré du discours ou la qualité du son de mon téléphone. De toute façon il y a un abîme du latin au français, il est étrange que les participants aient compris qqch. Mais en même temps cela a été très enthousiasment et intéressant. Suadeo pergite quod facitis, omnibus salutem calidam dico, praecipue Lucio.
@zorglub20770
@zorglub20770 Жыл бұрын
excellent ce jeu et tellement original. Mes cours de latin à l'école paraissent si loin !!! Kudos à Luke qui parle latin !!
@vincem3748
@vincem3748 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: "cur" means "why" in Latin, but it also means "ass" (rear end) in Romanian 😂🇷🇴
@modmaker7617
@modmaker7617 Жыл бұрын
EN 🇬🇧🇺🇸: why PL 🇵🇱 (my lang): dlaczego LA 🌿🇻🇦: cūr/quārē FR 🇫🇷🇨🇦: pourquoi IT 🇮🇹🇸🇲: perché ES 🇪🇸🇲🇽: por qué PT 🇵🇹🇧🇷: por quê RO 🇷🇴🇲🇩: de ce CA 🇪🇸🇦🇩: per què
@vincem3748
@vincem3748 Жыл бұрын
Also "porche" in Scuian 🤘
@AdamSlatopolsky
@AdamSlatopolsky Жыл бұрын
- l - > - r - is a typical evolution from Latin to Romanian: SoL > SoaRe CuLus > cuR FeLicitatis > feRicitate PiLus > păR MeLus > măR
@wyqtor
@wyqtor Жыл бұрын
@@AdamSlatopolsky 3rd one is more like fericire (=happiness), we also have the word felicitare (=greeting, congratulations - borrowed more recently from French, that's why the 'l' is still there).
@AdamSlatopolsky
@AdamSlatopolsky Жыл бұрын
@@wyqtor In Spanish we have feliz (felix in Latin)= happy, felicitar (verb)= to congratulate, to wish, felicidad (noun) = happiness. We use the plural to wish in general: ¡Felicidades! and Feliz + sustantive (cumpleaños, aniversario, año, navidad, etc...) to wish something specific. I know that what in Spanish (felicitar) or Italian (felicitare) would be an infinitive, in Romanian words ended in -are, -ere, -ire are sustantives, right?
@martelkapo
@martelkapo Жыл бұрын
Mi estas simplulo. Kiam mi vidas novan ĝisdatigon de Norbert, mi alklakas ĝin. Ankaŭ estas bone revidi na Luke kaj Elisa en tiu ĉi kanalo!
@DeEchteZeus
@DeEchteZeus Жыл бұрын
is this esperanto?
@martelkapo
@martelkapo Жыл бұрын
@@DeEchteZeus jes ja!
@BeeOstrowsky
@BeeOstrowsky Жыл бұрын
This is amazing! But may I request-for next time-a multilingual caption track that shows what each person says, whether in English ou en français aut latine? I can make sense of any of those, I just can't always hear the words well!
@Ecolinguist
@Ecolinguist Жыл бұрын
You can turn on the French captions for that. They contain French and English parts.
@saalex1035
@saalex1035 Жыл бұрын
me encanto muchisimo norbert ...... y de los francofonos entendi bastante a elisa y a toni pero me costo muchisimo entender a stephany se que el frances de quebec es complicado.
@whannabi
@whannabi Жыл бұрын
The vocabulary is roughly the same as the others but maybe it's the accent or which word they choose to use because in that regard, it's a bit different.
@teddyjones3093
@teddyjones3093 Жыл бұрын
@@whannabi Yes, it's the accent. I speak French as a third language, and the French girl and African guy were easy to understand. The Quebec girl was a bit harder.
@hakanstorsater5090
@hakanstorsater5090 Жыл бұрын
Also the connection was bad, it was hard to make out her words, occasionally. No clear reception, alas.
@Kamallounet
@Kamallounet 4 ай бұрын
speak it's difficult but when it's write it's more easier for understand the meaning
@almor2445
@almor2445 Жыл бұрын
I was surprised how easy I found the first one. My Spanish isn't the best but it seems more helpful than French for that particular task.
@KekmanForTheRestOfTheWorld
@KekmanForTheRestOfTheWorld Жыл бұрын
i hated latin most through most of my school years. where i live we just translate from latin to our language and thats it. we never actually spoke latin or had the goal of learning it. after 5 years of latin lessons in school (and being very bad at it) i found a teacher who could actually speak latin and showed me how easy it can be and what a great language it is. that teacher was not working at my school, but i took private lessons with in order to not fail the class and not getting a degree. anyways i went from being very bad at latin to being very good at latin in less then 6 month. teachers at my school even thought i was cheating until i explained to them in latin that i wasnt cheating. i used to hate latin with a passion but that changed and i still love it. such a beautiful language and actually pretty easy compared to other languages.
@Julia-br5tq
@Julia-br5tq Жыл бұрын
I love how you can only understand this if you speak at least three languages. 👌 Super nicez
@SierraSierraFoxtrot
@SierraSierraFoxtrot Жыл бұрын
The Seinfeld bit is great, I remember that monologue! PS: Bill Burr too? I did think it was a comedy monologue when I heard and read the subtitles...
@fabiolevati2616
@fabiolevati2616 Жыл бұрын
After 5 years learning Latin at school I had no problem in understand .Only thing: I'm used to ecclesiastical rather than classical pronunciation.
@DrWhom
@DrWhom Жыл бұрын
guess what the romans were used to?
@chloek3863
@chloek3863 Жыл бұрын
i am english and beginner / intermediate in french and i actually understood a surprising amount of this
@Jormunn
@Jormunn Жыл бұрын
PLEASE make a comparison with logudorese sardinian and latin
@hakanstorsater5090
@hakanstorsater5090 Жыл бұрын
It seemed that several of the guests replied in English, even though they were supposed to talk in French. I can see that being a natural social response, especially if they would have to focus on a third, mostly foreign, language, separately...
@brwnsgrgirl4379
@brwnsgrgirl4379 Жыл бұрын
Since when did you also speak French? You just become more and more impressive!
@MrDen-lv5uj
@MrDen-lv5uj Жыл бұрын
French seems to be much farther from Latin than other languages of the group...
@arta.xshaca
@arta.xshaca Жыл бұрын
Some Romanized Celts have not been speaking their new language well...
@bogdang.7627
@bogdang.7627 Жыл бұрын
Luke, You have a very nice-sounding voice that could be an announcer on radio or TV
@modmaker7617
@modmaker7617 Жыл бұрын
EN 🇬🇧🇺🇸 - Latin versus French PL 🇵🇱 - Łacina kontra francuski FR 🇫🇷 - Latin contre français LA 🌿 - Latina contra francica
@martelkapo
@martelkapo Жыл бұрын
EO 💚⭐ - Latino kontraŭ la franca
@clownworld3523
@clownworld3523 Жыл бұрын
RU 🇷🇺 - Latyn' protiv francuzskogo
@lothariobazaroff3333
@lothariobazaroff3333 Жыл бұрын
CY Lladin yn erbyn Ffrangeg
@modmaker7617
@modmaker7617 Жыл бұрын
@@lothariobazaroff3333 Welsh is a crazy language.
@amjan
@amjan Жыл бұрын
Ale po co ta amerykanska flaga? Rownie dobrze kolo francuskiej mogles dac kanadyjska i jakies afrykanskie.
@MrAllmightyCornholioz
@MrAllmightyCornholioz Жыл бұрын
JUPITER BLESS THE SPEAKERS
@sebas346
@sebas346 Жыл бұрын
Great video Norbert! I believe there are some issues with the subtitles :) whenever Latin is spoken, it still shows the text in Latin. Other than that, great video!
@Ecolinguist
@Ecolinguist Жыл бұрын
What do you mean? Which part of the video are you referring to? :) It's quite possible you have your Latin captions enabled and that's why they show. Check your video settings and let me know. :)
@sebas346
@sebas346 Жыл бұрын
@@Ecolinguist it keeps happening throughout the whole video :( so it's either Latin audio with English captions activated = Latin text Or Latin audio with English captions activated = no text at all
@omenoid
@omenoid Жыл бұрын
Background: A Finn that speaks fluent English, and non-fluent Swedish and German. Elementary French. 1) That was easy, I guessed it right away. 2) I thought it was a street-food booth at a marketplace, pretty close. 3) I thought they were having a picnic in a park but didn't understand it was on a beach. I heard the word "flatus" and I got that it has to be something else, like a blow of wind. ;) 4-5) Simply too difficult.
@carademarlene9556
@carademarlene9556 Жыл бұрын
Amazing.
@BlitzOfTheReich
@BlitzOfTheReich Жыл бұрын
This is weird. Usually I don't understand Latin too well, but I understood the first challenge immediately (apartment building). In the second, I understood that he was surprised because it was so expensive (I thought it was a market).
@pile333
@pile333 Жыл бұрын
Pulcrum! Beau! 👍
@NmLs42
@NmLs42 Жыл бұрын
I see Luke, I press like even before I watch
@universalrandomizer405
@universalrandomizer405 Жыл бұрын
That French intro was smoooooth Hats off
@baronmeduse
@baronmeduse Жыл бұрын
The recording samples were pretty long. This is bit of a step away from guessing words.
@Kemba_Kelvine.2525
@Kemba_Kelvine.2525 Жыл бұрын
Happy seeing a fellow Cameroonian 🇨🇲 🇨🇲 🇨🇲 🇨🇲.. 😃 😃 😃 😃
@corradomancinelli9561
@corradomancinelli9561 Жыл бұрын
Eximia! Hoc modo latinum sermonem discere oportet, sicut lingua moderna, in comparatione linguae romanae, sed etiam linguis germanica radice. Gratulor magistro optimo
@dancroitoru364
@dancroitoru364 6 ай бұрын
Yes, we know/understand much more than we think we know. Somebody said: we don't speak, we are spoken.
@paiwanhan
@paiwanhan Жыл бұрын
Even I got the first question. The second one I only heard the word for mother. The third one I heard the word for catch. For the last two questions, I drew completely blank.
@janusroland
@janusroland Жыл бұрын
I love this.
@valhalla-tupiniquim
@valhalla-tupiniquim Жыл бұрын
We see how Latin seems to Romance Languages. It's really interesting.
@EVPaddy
@EVPaddy Жыл бұрын
After some duolingo l‘d actually have responded insula to the first question, I‘m proud:)
@pelgervampireduck
@pelgervampireduck Жыл бұрын
I speak spanish, and I find it funny that I understood Latin better than French hahaha.
@U20E0
@U20E0 Жыл бұрын
it seems that french is actively trying to not be a romance language, just as English is very actively trying to not be a germanic one.
@Apaurie
@Apaurie Жыл бұрын
Plus in the monologue #1, he said "caelo" which means "sky". So definetly they were outdoor.
@mariokajin
@mariokajin Жыл бұрын
Beautiful.
@alexurfantasy
@alexurfantasy Жыл бұрын
Elisa! Tu me manque sur liga románica
@dancroitoru364
@dancroitoru364 6 ай бұрын
Tony's "rat" was a pure psychoanalytical moment - actually this could be a good technique - listening to something that is both incredibly strange yet bizarrely familiar might "dupe" one into be played by his own signifiers which is how analysis starts.
@ptolemyauletesxii8642
@ptolemyauletesxii8642 Жыл бұрын
3. They are at the beach, talking about the beautiful day, the sun shining, the wind blowing. She says it's perfect for sandals. She asks if he will open the umbrella. He asks her to help. A gust of wind blows at the umbrella and she tells him to hold on to it. It blows away. She tells him to run to get it, but he complains that the sand is as hot as fire.
@JoseAntonio-tt2mb
@JoseAntonio-tt2mb Жыл бұрын
Faça um comparativo de português com latim .
@Satin_Persona_Latina
@Satin_Persona_Latina Жыл бұрын
já tem uns videos do tipo nesse mesmo canal so pesquisar que tú acha
@mithrandirthegrey7644
@mithrandirthegrey7644 Жыл бұрын
I took French in high school. I understood like 2 words of Latin lol.
@SimplySammyK
@SimplySammyK Жыл бұрын
Gotta be more difficult for the Canadian, French Canadian is already quite the change from French as is, then with French being so drastically different to Latin its just offft. I Love the way they're genuinely struggling aha
@orleanslecanut3031
@orleanslecanut3031 Жыл бұрын
As a French learning Latin, I understood most of what was said (albeit with some gaps preventing me from understanding the details), except the last one, which I still recognized to be from Amphitryō. Otherwise, I think the beach scene was a little misleading because I don't feel like Lūcius and Īrēnē took any acting courses. :)
@ouroboros5474
@ouroboros5474 Жыл бұрын
You're from Lazio?
@orleanslecanut3031
@orleanslecanut3031 Жыл бұрын
@@ouroboros5474 Err no… why?
@ouroboros5474
@ouroboros5474 Жыл бұрын
@@orleanslecanut3031 I thought you said you were Latin.
@orleanslecanut3031
@orleanslecanut3031 Жыл бұрын
@@ouroboros5474 Oh, ok. Please excuse my clumsy English. :)
@Tnebrarum
@Tnebrarum Жыл бұрын
The answer is no. Now I can see the video 😁
@melmeki4422
@melmeki4422 Жыл бұрын
I clicked thumbnail just going to comment "SPQR", and I sprewed tea at AD117😂 SALVE AB IAPONIA❤
@bacicinvatteneaca
@bacicinvatteneaca Жыл бұрын
In the first few seconds, I thought I was hear some sort of Provençal or other Galloromance language. But no, it was just mr Ranieri trying his best X)
@maaderllin
@maaderllin Жыл бұрын
Je commente à mesure. 1- J'imagine que c'est un appartement? 2- Dans un restaurant? (J'ai seulement compris le début "C'était bon" ) 3- À la plage ou en vacance? 4- Aucune idée, à l'entrée d'un truc, j'ai entendu parler de soldats et d'avions... 5- Vraiment aucune idée.
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