Launch Smash Ultimate - Demise Seagull Joe (Wolf, Bowser) VS Demise ZD (Fox, Incineroar) L.Finals

[@yukicraft3210]

Uncensored commentary... nothing serious, just good wild fun for a launch tournament. Can we PLEASE have more of this gold?

[@HitmanMittman]

my fav kind of commentary is the unprofessional kind

[@toxronin3971]

Honestly

[@MikiKikiriki007]

this commentary was epic it really suited launch tournament imo lol

[@KingExalted]

Just what I wanted to see *EPIC BOWSER PLAY*

[@pensologohesito]

Incineroar is fire bro.

[@fernank017]

incineroar evolves from a litten, so you're not wrong

[@toxronin3971]

*u rite*

[@ShoutOfEarth]

*Badum tsh*

[@mieungdeairldeimauseu754]

What is this commentary😂

[@StriderZessei]

Gold.

[@innertuber4049]

These guys, no joke, are the best commentators on the Smash scene. Seems like everybody here at this tournament knows how little this particular one matters.

[@tonberry2670]

Launch tournament so they don't need to be too professional

[@yinsomniac4128]

God tier commentary

[@yohhoh2667]

Man his Incineroar is the best I've ever seen, crazy stuff. Also Seagulls Bowser is great 👌

[@gregorythestallion2984]

6:23 Bowser: hey, Foxy. Now you have to wash my car, Star Wash hahahahahaha

[@mentadere]

That Incineroar is lit

[@MrKilljay]

It's straight fire

[@hayatuthunder5270]

No it's Litten

[@braydenplays9017]

Let's just say zd was on fire when he was playing

[@SeVeRSamus]

HA. HAHA.

[@captainbearing9433]

genuinely started this video over 4 times to listen to the commentary, this game has the best community

[@InjuredPelican]

KZbin doesn't yet realize Smash Ultimate is out yet.

[@galaxyrunaway]

InjuredPelican Is there a joke that i’m missing here?

[@romaprof2]

6:18 YES. This is what I want to see from Bowser's Super Armor.

[@megasoniczxx]

4:44 since when could you go from fox's quick attack (don't @ me, I forgot the name of it okay D:

[@relic4948]

megasoniczxx That was in 4 too.

[@Thorozak]

4:30 wow NAIR did a lot of damage

[@King_Gum]

YO WTF. THAT DID 30 DAMAGE

[@silverspeedxx1160]

Better get the flex tape

[@Chacho131]

It's because its Bowser and its a 1v1 so the Damage is amplified. Can't sleep on these heavies anymore.

[@Chacho131]

@Greenoak 77 You said the same thing except backwards...

[@Chacho131]

@Greenoak 77 If that were the case then Sakurai would have explained it the other way around. But he didn't. He specifically explained that in 1v1 the damage is increased to allow for faster matches. Not the other way around.

[@lancelee338]

4:30 That's a lot of % for one nair

[@d3nny_s3mpai]

Needs a nerf 🙄

[@shoeripper]

you rarely ever hit all 3, it’s because it was parallel and falling

[@jasonstroude1414]

@@d3nny_s3mpai Gtfo. We dont need that bs

[@lugit36]

3:13

[@WildManToons]

1:32 This aint melee calm down Fox lol

[@megamanx1291]

Shine is very viable in ultimate

[@megamanx1291]

@@Hexic101 I'm not referring to this moment alone.

[@ant-fan]

As cool as Wolf and Bowser are, it's kind of a shame to see Seagull Joe moving on from Sonic. I know he mained Wolf in Brawl, but he was the hypest Sonic in Smash 4. Still, glad to see he'll be playing Ultimate.

[@nikocayetano1805]

Lmao that destruction was weak 2:38

[@braydenplays9017]

SHINED 👌👌👌👌👌

[@thunderbee]

Finally somebody else realizes that incineroar is just zarna,I thought I was the only one who noticed that.( he must been one of the only six were there people who played icons)

[@heardofrvb]

I thought he's Ralf from the King of Fighters.

[@tylerwilson1024]

Zarna? Who is that, and I was getting more Zangief vibes due to the cyclone

[@charliechuckles6494]

is that Slime on commentary?

[@theriddler5]

Anyone notice how it takes so much more damage to kill? Mainly for normal non powerhouse characters. Like 130-150% range.

[@blackpants7385]

I mean, that's how it should be. In previous games most of the supposed powerful characters had their advantage negated by the fact there were faster characters who could just kill with combos at certain percents.

[@theriddler5]

@@blackpants7385 in melee it was easy for near all the characters including the non powerhouse ones to kill early. In smash 4 it was consistent with killing.Ness back throw killed at 89% or higher near the ledge. In ultimate you have to be at 105% or higher. This game gave too much of an advantage to the powerhouses. While leaving everyone else in the dust.

[@blackpants7385]

@@theriddler5 Except they're still slower than the rest of the cast. Killing power isn't everything. Their recoveries also tend to be linear, slow, and not very good in general. Besides King K.Rool, that is.

[@stableasura]

Why seagul don't play with sonic?!

[@hayatuthunder5270]

I think Yoda wouldn't like seagull Joe

[@chagis100]

Sick shine at 4:48

[@mayauppstad9883]

6:17 Did he just tough guy through a jab at 164%?!

[@electability5977]

ZD and Seagull look dead inside. Is that what smash does to you?

[@GeneralForster]

I think they were both originally Brawl players so yeah

[@Evil_01]

Why they dont delet that annoying fox combo

[@ShoutOfEarth]

The best trio in commentary returns

[@theholydoughboi804]

Yo why is the commentating more entertaining than the fighting itself

[@RealMiniLink]

When i think about how Incineroar is slower than Bowser it kind of makes me think Incineroar should get a speed buff, then I remember that everyone would say Incineroar is busted if he did get a speed buff so...

[@BrowneePointz]

Incineroar, while being very slow, and having slightly below average recovery, has amazing nair, fair and u-air, good smashes, great tilts, good specials, and the best non combo grabs in the game. I think his speed is fine where it's at.

[@Harias_VI]

Foxtrot fellow incinerator

[@metaknight2941]

KaraoYoshi I disagree. He's too slow to be unable to shield instantly out of dash, his recovery (in terms of survival) is more than just "slightly below average" and his attack priority is abyssmal for a Heavy. (Priority in this game as a whole is rather poor.) His F-tilt collides with WFT's basic attacks and that's pretty much unacceptable. The counter animation lasts so long that it isn't uncommon for certain characters to simply grab you out of its startup. His F-Smash also seems to be rather lackluster. Only acceling at netting the occasional early Ledge/Quarter Stage kill on outward DI. If he is to remain so slow they should at least give it more shield damage while in the Revenge state. It may seem 'meh' due to the animation exaggerating its actual horizontal range and instead having hidden reach at the bottom of it. He gets melted down by any skilled players using characters with solid retreating aerials, low lag projectiles and/or Ness/Lucas. Perhaps he wouldn't suffer as much if he wasn't restricted to having to walk at 1km/h to avoid interruptions/commiting to attacks with heavy end lag. He will end up incredibly underused if he doesn't receive at least a slight bump in either running or walking speed. I do enjoy most of his kit despite those few flaws.

[@RealMiniLink]

@@metaknight2941 I agree with pretty much all of these points except for F-Smash being a lackluster kill option but I don't use F-Smash all that much so I won't argue over it, the end lag on revenge is a bit too much imo, when you revenge a projectile the person who used it has more than enough time to either grab you and get rid of revenge or get you into a combo that either drastically reduces the duration of revenge or gets rid of it all together, I shouldn't be punished this heavily for succeeding at something

[@metaknight2941]

Incineroar Main I agree. If we had no other choice then I'd rather him lose a little bit of power in exchange for reduced end lag on his grounded attacks, slightly increased mobility and slightly improved off stage survivability. He is so stiff and restricted that it isn't difficult to hard counter him with certain characters. To follow up on his F-Smash -- it isn't bad damage wise at all. Its applications are too limited and it makes him feel 1-Dimensional.

[@Starwolfe64]

These are my favorite commentators

[@joplinman9876]

Does that move really deserve 25%?

[@ReadDaGospel]

Still the commentary duo in the world! I am screaming at the duck line!! 😭😭😭😭💀🤣🤣🤣👀💀👀💀💀

[@CharleswoodSpudzyofficial]

ZD looks like he doesnt even shower

[@_frection_419]

I can't be the only one who hears Incineroar's side b as him yelling FUCK

[@Valnoir_]

Does ZD smile?

[@PsyrikAntz967831]

The Unova Pokémon League stage with no hazards is a really good stage I want y’all to try lmao and that goes for the viewers and commenters reading this too😂🙏🏾

[@thunderbee]

Yo this sent made my sides hurt I couldn't stop laughing.

[@juanluisperez3633]

I dont get it... why the f they keep picking up the smashville and "town and city" stages , when they could pick any other of the stages ... it was great this match , sure but please i think the reason that every stage have a battlefield and omega form is to use every stage as equal... but anyways, the players are still in transition from smash 4 and the game just released 2 or 3 days ago.. officialy of course, so lets see what happens forward🤔

[@jraucher]

Battlefield favors certain characters better than others. It's good to pick stages that favor your characters. My characters generally favor long stages.

[@GunbatsuShowdown]

Seagull Joe not related to the comment above, but it’s nice how you reply to others in the comments. :)

[@jraucher]

@@GunbatsuShowdown thank you. I won't start flame wars or the likes, but I will help with misinformation or provide constructive feedback.

[@fgclash454]

That incineroar is godlike holy fuck what a beast lol I wanna main that guy too. Seagull going bowser was random. But GGs none the less

[@sixem6582]

More of this commentary please. Maybe not for EVO but we need more loose and funny commentary like this.

[@DangaMax7]

That opening

[@burgersandwich4711]

The commentators are my favorite part of this video

[@ricknwhiskey]

no matter what smash it is, spoiler alert, seagull always loses

[@jasongreen1034]

Holy shit incineroar

[@mangekoo3682]

this game is to hype.....

[@GanonGerudo]

Lmao you can’t even call that’s. Real shine btw 😂

[@immitation9885]

How can so many people look like 30 year old virgins

[@ToughDuff]

oooohhh yeaaaah

[@gabrielvadney7955]

Uuuuug the commentary is bad at first

[@charliechuckles6494]

Only at first.

[@nohelp76]

Fuck out here boi

[@jayprodigy2947]

by far the worst commentators in 2018

[@kechawacha9545]

FIYUR

[@Leo-fz6ck]

I was praying for Seagull to lose after being so spammy in literally every other video he's in and my dreams were answered

[@jraucher]

XD

[@rotundmonibuv5103]

Oh shit

[@sereolson]

Meanehile incineroar just spams Lairat...lol

[@LoveNote_]

Seagull is gay?

[@jraucher]

No.

[@Vlaffffy]

Seagull Joe *Yes ;)

[@DatsKipOmANiHaVeAch4nn3l]

where in the world did that come from

[@Dufflebags202]

real phoenix I’d take Nintendo Ned’s place and suck it papa

[@GanonGerudo]

New smash gameplay is so boring to watch, nintendo throwing tech skill out the window and limiting the game play and skill ceiling. Great game for casuals but 64, melee and project M still own this shit

[@Itsfine-pw7ff]

Its been a whole day and a half, most combos, kill confirms, and techs haven't been developed. Imagine if I judged melee the day after its release? The fan boy in you is humorous, go play melee kid.

[@jraucher]

I played PM for a long time. I'd say this game has very similar tech skill. PM also has a lot more dumb stuff associated with due to so many grab combo kill confirms and crouch canceling being downright oppressive. Melee is the hardest game to play for sure.

[@GanonGerudo]

chris star they are using the smash 4 engine so it’s not hard to see massive similarities. Melee and 64, project M are way two different games so your comment is nearly irrelevant. When you play comp you are testing blast zones, geo advantaged, skybox advantages, biped advantages and disadvantages. This game is slightly speed up and still uses nearly the exact mechanics as smash 4. They nerfed moved altered the shields, changes character frames but stayed with the same formula. Get wrecked.

[@GanonGerudo]

Seagull Joe I would really say it’s close but they did have hit frame similarities and biped similarities. The skill ceiling is no ware as close the the air dodging imo ruining the speed skill and pace of combos

[@Itsfine-pw7ff]

@@GanonGerudo this game is absolutely nothing like smash 4, the only thing that can be compared are the visual aesthetics this game plays more like melee, shield and grabs arent nearly as good and the dashing back and forth in the neutral is definitely a nod towards melee. This just shows you literally haven't touched the game and just talking to talk.