Laura Curtis: "Economists Have Figured Out Why Men Aren't Working Anymore!!!"

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[@googleuser9624]

The modern world is such a waste of human potential

[@joedoe27]

100%

[@mrfuzzy2954]

@vercusgames, so why didn't y'all do something about it? You were the adults back then and ignored all the shit. No wonder young folk think Biden is actually a good candidate, you let the tvs raise your kids while you had no fuqs to give.

[@rppope1006]

Been saying thay for decades

[@BetaBuxDelux]

🤔 Probably the world in general. I don’t think it’s a recent issue.

[@FunboyMacphallush]

Ultimately, equality is to blame. Raising the stupid, incompetent, criminal and mental cases to that of geniuses and the wise is impossible. The geniuses and the wise can only be oppressed, silenced and dragged down to the untermenschen.

[@DarkSeas117]

When women make 6 figures for sending emails and men can't get a liveable wage for risking their lives daily and have nothing to come home to but an empty apartment if your lucky theres no longer a motivation.

[@basedmanlett]

tall guys get plenty of motivation for sure

[@RiotforPeacePlz]

The irony is they tell people to work hard and you can easily become someone and earn big bucks....Yet is there really enough room on top for everyone? Lmao no no there is not. Most guys who work hard end up dead or poor still. The few that do rise up are the lotto winners and the people that didn't aren't spoken about...

[@basedmanlett]

@@RiotforPeacePlz everything is rigged just like dating.

[@user-el5xh2uc1h]

​@@basedmanlettit's just as bad for tall guys, woman have so many standards it doesn't actually matter what you look like, how much you make or whatever, they are never Happy. Just fuck and move on, those are the new rules that the female community made, it's time they take the Consequences. No more Husbands, No more Families, No more Chivalry, and, No more free meals. Theses are the female choices and it's time they take responsibility for them. Make them pay on the first date, they most likely have more money anyways. Also if you form a relationship with a Western woman, she must give you a percentage of her onlyfans, she has one, don't let her lie to you. And last but not least, most women no longer deserve monogamous relationships, so don't give them one. Also don't live in Missouri as they are introducing a bill to allow women to legally sue men for unwanted pregnancies as if we can actually control that.

[@1122Hoochie-Coochie-Coo]

That kind of environment eventually triggers violent social upheaval that takes different forms. Balance is ALWAYS reasserted.

[@BrianWaller-qe7gr]

Gee, they can’t get dates, can’t afford cars, will never be able to afford a house. Why work?

[@NeutralKirby]

​@@VercusgamesEven then hypergamy hates frugal dudes. The guy that has a paid off used car, a viable skill/degree, and a modest home is invisible unless they're 6ft+.

[@runeingebretsen8378]

let's not forget wife and children,why care if women see men as a atm,all taught to them by the state.

[@chosenlyric]

@@Vercusgames good advice, just get it checked out at a dealership “complete diagnostic test.” Helps to avoid lemons.

[@who346]

And TOLD TO go and fight in another COUNTRY for everything you will never get, then when you get back, broken/damaged, your ignored, denied benefits to medications/care, and cant work, your denied even more....and your homeless...but why are no one Volunteering? WHy are men turnig their backs on SOCIETY?

[@lindaostrom570]

and on top have to put up with no brain bosses and toxic work environments.

[@acurry722]

Men have realized that we are living in a scam and we are adapting and looking for a way out!

[@ajg8722]

Fax

[@ingotants3809]

That's it👍

[@celuiquipeut6527]

If AALL the men would go live in the woods, we cpuld let all the women turn society to shit. We could come back and make it great again. When we get our rightful place again.

[@jasonblizzard9635]

The future is female, they say, and women believe it's b/c they are superior to men. Nope, single women outspend everyone so corps/gov fund women into college and gender quota them into jobs... Keep 'em single and working, so they keep spending. It's all money motivated.

[@terryrodbourn2793]

Men knew for long time that we are short time before the "crap hits the fan" from crippling debt and stupid uses colleges" might be a reason! Cities have failed sense the 1970s overseas! Time to head to the Hills!

[@cathbadmusic8489]

How the hell could a person enjoy being awakened at 6:30AM by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so? - Charles Bukowski

[@mikey92362]

Pro tip... Save half an hour by waiting to take your shit until you get to the office. #workshitsFTW!

[@reldoc]

I'm 73, retiring (again) in 31 working days. I came out of retirement to start a new office for a company. I opened with half staff, some part-timers. We made money from day one. At less than a year, the owner said my role is "my most worthless expense" (I thought I was an asset), and cut my pay by 33%. Needless to say, I gave notice. Try to match my 23 years of experience in this niche field.

[@mikey92362]

@@reldoc my last job paid less than $40k. I redesigned our shopping on my own time and saved the company over $45k per year. And I brought in $4million in new residual business in two years. The boss let me go because he said he could hire two college grads for what he was paying me. What he was really doing was getting the books farther in the red because he was secretly planning to sell the company to an investor. I helped build that company and got completely screwed. I'll never trust another business owner and will never lend my skills and talents to anyone but myself. Loyalty doesn't exist in today's world.

[@patrickmiano7901]

And in his day you didn't have to worry about hyper-sensitive, paranoid feminist coworkers

[@skylinefever]

@@mikey92362 People who make it in the C suite are the biggest dark triads.

[@andredaedone7732]

I joined the Navy, stayed 21 years. Went to the USPS as a technician afterward, stayed 15 years and took an early out. At 53, I was done. Now 68 and still single, I still work around my properties. I work out at the Gym 6 times a week, and work everyday cooking. I have no motivation to work in the rat race or skill trade jobs. Love my hobbies and staying away from society's garbage is a good thing.

[@deker0954]

Well done.

[@rbfarrell1]

Yup! Stay single and you will keep your money and freedom. I do the same.

[@goombah226]

I understand. A single man can lead a minimalist lifestyle and be perfectly content. I occasionally think about reentering the work force, and then ask myself what the hell for? I have my time and freedom and everything I need. And I have a great workout routine here at home both inside and out, so I don't even need a gym anymore. Peace out.

[@andrewmackenzie325]

That’s a cracker life, well done

[@andredaedone7732]

@@goombah226 Don't do it, the IRS will take at least 1/2 of it. I would go back to work if they offered me one million an hour and I would work for two hours one million for me and one million for the IRS 😄 lol

[@mithos789]

terrible pay. no family.

[@bryanmiller8604]

Forgot terrible workplace environment, downsizing, & unreasonable expectations, just to earn a dime raise, but only if all your annual evaluations scores are at least a 4.5 out of 5!

[@Ja50nkAt]

And the more you make the more Uncle sam takes, work sucks, women are fat, everything is expensive.

[@zippyatrainbow]

"Women are fat" your not wrong with that one! 🤣🤣

[@JackCarsonite]

​@@zippyatrainbowThey have exploded since COVID. It's like a whale rescue operation that went gangbusters.

[@Turanic1]

This sums it up in one accurate lazy sentence :D

[@mr.puddles5246]

Essentially, being fed dirt and then being expected to defecate diamonds doesnt help the situation.

[@user-yv4mm6bx3c]

That's a good one. I have to remember that one.

[@michaelmcfeely6588]

I don't work because I don't want to pay taxes to a government I hold in contempt.

[@tadghostal8769]

I use crypto gains to push into cash then precious metals to alleviate unrepresented taxation.

[@KA-vs7nl]

​@@tadghostal8769 cool it with the antisemitic remarks

[@jaybrick8973]

An then we supposed to somehow survive an be happy this society sucks smh

[@nikitaw1982]

give them powers to use against me whilst reducing mine.

[@redrustyhill2]

How do you survive not working without being a parasitic leech???

[@treasurethetime2463]

The deal was you exchange your labor, time and energy to provide for your family and a level of respect in the community. Well if the guys ain’t getting kids or respect, he might as blow his money on jet skis, fishing and other things HE enjoys.

[@WaveLord14]

When you're single with no kids, a 60K yearly salary feels like 110K 😂

[@ghosthunter7258]

​@@WaveLord14ahh yes peaceful cf life

[@EmpireStateExpress01]

​@@WaveLord14facts

[@dustysmoke4996]

@@WaveLord14 I can vouch for the truth of that. 👍

[@Patrick-pv9pe]

@@WaveLord14 Quote of the day! Thank you! PS: Men are producers, women are consumers.

[@robertweidner2480]

You could afford a house, a car, nice vacations, and send kids to college on 1 salary in 1948. In 2023, an 18 year old guy can't afford a studio apartment in a rural area on minimum wage stocking shelves at Walmart. That might have something to do with why men aren't working.

[@skylinefever]

Yes, incentives drive behavior, and the mega corporations hate incentivizing people to bother working.

[@glitchinthematrix555]

all men should get their CDLs and then branch out from there

[@djja8844]

@@glitchinthematrix555 if you leave your stuff with family or in storage, you can cut out rent, utilities, gas to get to work, maybe even car insurance. Live in the truck. Put all that money to work in an investment account.

[@unknowncommenter6698]

Wait, are you comparing average of 1948 with minimum of 2023? If so, then you cheeky dickwaffle (wish more people could play original voice clip in their heads, VA had a field day there)

[@Chiefmane1]

@@glitchinthematrix555thats the plan 🚛

[@pplebite8844]

No fucking incentive to work. How many times can you strip away incentives before a group walks out?

[@runeingebretsen8378]

women hates men,the gov hates men,and they want men to care,ok good luck with that.

[@who346]

Oh, my man needs to make at least 200,000 dollars a year, but be AVALIABLE... average wage of a man is 40,000.....and work their asses off for that.

[@modelsmasher9889]

Great point@@who346

[@akula9713]

Once you work out that marriage and kids are not the deal they used to be, and you decide to be single, you find you don’t need that much money to get by. Work to live, not live to work.

[@who346]

and alot less Expenses...bills and bulSHI(.....alot find out its a better LIFE.

[@ordinaryhuman5645]

Yup. In current year the man who would have worked full time to support a wife and kids is probably single and can get by very comfortably with part time work instead.

[@robertkorsberg18]

Damn straight

[@fifthward1983]

the company i work for wants me to work 10 hours a day ,7 days a week. i asked them ''what am i going to do? give the extra money to my make believe wife and kids? whats the point? if i needed to be there 24/7 i would . im not 6 ft tall that eliminates like 75% of women. thats a real deal breaker for them. its kind of like a guy insisting on double d tits and weigh 100 pounds, its just unrealistic.

[@jack3493]

Well in corporate America, white men are vehemently discriminated against for hiring and promotions, despite oftentimes being the most qualified and competent individuals in their entire department. I’ve had multiple female managers and directors who don’t know their ass from their elbow and make 250k+, but I can hardly break 100k. Planning to stick it out for another 3-5 years, save and invest aggressively, and start my own business by age 35.

[@paccawacca4069]

Men are essentially discriminated against en masse, though no one wants to admit it.

[@jasonbourneistreadstone]

Well-said and quite true. Agreed! I've seen this over and over.. and over again in various workplaces. Oh.. and as far as Economists actually figuring something out.. let me be gentle: I doubt it. Economics isn't called "the dismal science" for nothing.

[@elihuyoungblood2943]

Welcome to slavelandia, I quit the job and the title the masters give to me. And now I stay under the radar

[@ShibaMcDripNu]

go rural, shiizy about to hity da fizzy

[@googleuser9624]

invest in HarryPotterObamaSonic10Inu

[@NoahCrusade-bw7ds]

Why would a soldier go and die in war for his woman at home sleeping with his best friend, and then getting his wife pregnant then the dead soldiers wife collecting benefits off the soldiers death raising a child that isn't his?

[@derikuk2967]

Why would anyone risk life and limb for a state that hates him? ...for the profits of those who control that state?

[@dd805100]

Never thought of that we really live in hell don't we?

[@swampcastle8142]

"Economist" is like "scientist". There are no actual requirements to claim either title. 1. Work sucks 2. Paid not to work 3. The pay for work doesn't match the bullshit you have to put up with while employed. 4. Men don't like fat chicks.....that is pure genius. Explains a lot about certain communities.

[@sagatuppercut2960]

The solution is to fill all vacant jobs (including construction work) with women and continue to promote fat acceptance. 😉

[@who346]

#MeToo had alot ot do with it and the current relations between coworkers....its a complete HOSTILE force now.

[@nikitaw1982]

penalised for being a nice guy. shes rewarded for letting marriage fail. kids taken from you. Weren't raised how to effectively be a husband. women no interest in a sould mate, see you as a home appliance. modern day slave. Of course some obese short haired chick that looks like a thumb couldn't see why men not interested.

[@ryan4327]

It's like how when they write an article on why men aren't dating. Of course they get it wrong, and that's because they don't know why and don't want to know. If they wanted to know, they'd actually talk to men. Instead, we have articles written by women who have no clue and live in insular academic and government positions, and are mired in their own self-interests and ideologies.

[@Erick-di9gm]

Exactly why church attendance keeps going down in the US. Same approach to the problem

[@PlasmaMongoose]

They seem to have an adverse reaction to asking the actual men doing _(or not doing)_ those things.

[@itsrelativ3967]

Worklife and dating women are the same now days. They keep running out of benefits.

[@FreedomTalkMedia]

They like to default to just calling them child men.

[@1594simonsays]

Were surrounded by delusional narcissists

[@hia5235]

Why work? Just survive. You wont be allowed the thrive. Effort you put in, is given to others.

[@ghosthunter7258]

THIS

[@RaptureHead1993]

Sounds like minimalism and part time work….I loves it

[@djja8844]

The fruits all go to the stock price, dividends, and the owners

[@skylinefever]

Indeed. Upward mobility is mostly dead, so don't ever expect to become the top of the corporate ladder anyway.

[@TheBigdog868]

It's become the soviet union. They pretend to pay us, we pretend to work. Anything extra you give is taken and given to someone who isn't doing shite.

[@jasonwilliams8321]

50 years ago men were married shortly after high school. Then the task was maintaining that family. Work suck across the board but it was necessary to maintain a relationship that provided them with consistent sex an children. Now we tell men that they have to work, achieve mountains of success, have a house, etc….. and then and only then they MIGHT get laid and if they do it will probably be by a low quality woman they don’t like.

[@AngryToasterOven]

Not just what men are told, it's what's inculcated into women, too. Young women are both naturally and instructed to wait at the finishing line for their perfect partner. They all want to pick the winner, but there aren't enough winners to go around because the horses are realizing it's a race rigged to lose. The result: a bunch of lame stallions and lame mares wandering the pastures without purpose.

[@nikitaw1982]

and past the honey moon period doesn't matter what you do.

[@omegamale7880]

The very definition of "hoeflation."

[@djja8844]

Also she doesn't owe you anything, and she deserves everything, meanwhile you don't deserve anything but derision for actually expecting anything out of this deal. Sounds like a terrible gsmr

[@Allium_369]

Then they will leave for Tyrone and take all your shit. The courts will give them everything and you will see your kids once a month . They will probably hate you because the ex has polluted their minds !

[@HeadStronger-HS]

The social contract has been broken. At this point we are just rearranging the chairs on the titanic.

[@sammygoodnight]

In an economics class in college years ago, when the professor was writing some kind of mathematical formula on the board, a guy in the class raised his hand and said, "I've got ten bucks in my pocket. Do you have an equation that says how I'm gonna spend it?" The professor laughed at the joke and then carried on, but I thought at the time that the smart ass had a point.

[@redrustyhill2]

Every "smart ass" has a point. Everyone else is just too stupid to understand it. My entire life, I've been called a smart ass for pointing out the obvious common sense things in life that most can't see and refuse to acknowledge

[@Vapourwear]

When I looked at job listings the other day, I could not help but notice that all of the real jobs where you actually work pay you something like $35-$41,000 a year, while all of the obviously made up ones (human resource manager, project, leader, pharmaceutical sales representative) that were intended to be given to pretty girls with big tits were offering like 110,000+

[@untitled795]

idiocracy. This is social engineering to break you.

[@RRaquello]

Radio commentator Jean Shepherd made this analogy back in the 60's. He noted that the further away you go from where the real work is done, the plusher is the work environment, the higher are the wages. The manager in the front office has air conditioning, a carpet on the floor, a nice view out the window and a pretty secretary. All he does is push papers around a desk. The guys who's producing the goods works in a shed that's freezing in the winter, boiling in the summer, next to a blast furnace where if he takes one wrong step he might end up dead.

[@cavalieroutdoors6036]

​@RRaquello and if you've ever been the guy doing that real work? Your ass will never be the one in that air conditioned office chair.

[@cwilliams6884]

@@untitled795 it breaks the whole system (which is probably the point)

[@untitled795]

@@cwilliams6884 I call it “Controlled Chaos”, they keep society appearing as if it’s failing all the time while all the people at the top are reaping IMMENSE rewards and living in a genuine utopia. It’s really an illusion.

[@lesterdiamond6190]

Why any man in his right mind would enlist in the military to perpetuate this f'd up situation mystifies me.

[@derikuk2967]

NO THANK YOU for your service to a corrupt state that hates you and me and every white man. “Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.” ― Samuel Johnson

[@yaynetwork1483]

Let the women fight the next few centuries of wars, they are better than men, we are told, and only they have a stake in this messed up society.

[@glitchinthematrix555]

most people who join the military just graduated from their state indoctrination center (high school) that same year.

[@Bobo-ox7fj]

​@@glitchinthematrix555and even then recruitment rates are at like, 20% of what the country wants

[@marcmeinzer8859]

People enlist in the military so they don’t have to live on the economy anymore. It kind of helps if you’re a farm boy, your dad the farmer went bankrupt so you can’t work dad’s farm anymore, and there are no jobs in your Hooterville farm town.

[@philipmetts8831]

As soon as I find out which job can afford me a house and a car a dog and a lawn and a wife and kids I'll work.

[@dustysmoke4996]

It's the job your female boss has.

[@who346]

or, a piece of property, a small cabin, a dog and some land*property... im good.

[@ordinaryhuman5645]

IT will do the trick if you can give up the wife and kids. No job can get you that. Remember, it's always her body and her choice and her kids. Not yours. Marriage doesn't change that.

[@city_of_coompton6832]

​@@ordinaryhuman5645or convert to Islam and get an IT job in Saudi Arabia

[@badart3204]

CPA Accountant

[@myvideosetc.8271]

Not only quotas, also men knowing that working themselves to the bone won't be enough to have a wife and a family, (a divorce at most) makes them go full "war games" and "the only winning move is not to play".

[@foodomanthemagnificent2650]

That's definitely where I'm at.

[@robertanna9964]

Men have traditionally found meaning and purpose in providing and protecting for their families through a committed marriage. That's over now. Marriage today is a side hustle for lifetime alimony and child support. The state has regulated the terms of your pre-nup even if you don't remember even ever signing one- it's there waiting for you. You'll lose your your home, most of your possessions and you'll get to visit your kids twice a month if you're lucky. And God forbid if she chooses to even insinuate some form of abuse. Because then it's your freedom at stake as well. The smartest thing that men can do, is simply opt out.

[@RaptureHead1993]

Everything is down the drain. No incentive at all. Personally I just do part time and minimalist (No debt or kids is key). Thank God I am allowed to live with parents.

[@TheTruthhasbeenspoken]

Yea same. I'm unemployed and live with my parents. No fucks given. I won't wake up Mo-Fr for worthless toilet paper

[@tadghostal8769]

My passions are tax evasion and weapon procurement.

[@jerrymylove1754]

Did you go through a period in life where you went for it and gave it everything you had to accomplish a goal and failed? Doesn’t make sense to me to just do that before ever knowing what it’s like to work and support yourself.

[@blobtv7444]

Yeah but how long are you going to depend on your parents?

[@sugaashow]

@@TheTruthhasbeenspokenso you’re cool with your parents paying to support you as a 30 something?

[@eleveneleven572]

As marriage falls away and divorce skyrockets men have less incentive to strive if they can have a low cost comfortable life with more time outside of work to enjoy hobbies, friends, travel, study etc. Add to that the twin problems of discrimination in recruitment and promotion whilst men have to carry the burden whilst their unqualified box ticking managers create problems, friction and derail the business.

[@thebteamgamingchannel5701]

Nailed it!

[@codyvandal2860]

Living abroad is an eye opener. Everything is so cheap, the women are so thin, the weather is so nice.

[@who346]

if a man could live comfortably on 5 acres with a little house, and make a decent wage....most men would be content with that...as long as they can eat and do what they want.

[@TheCynicalSkeptic]

As an economist, I approve this message. This basic definition of economics is: the study of human motivational behavior. Zooks, Scoob. There’s that word again. Motivation. Mystery solved!

[@mistersir3020]

Tom, in order to be taken seriously and prove your identity as an economist, we expect at least some equations... E.g.: Motivation = thin women

[@CB-vt3mx]

The funniest thing about economists is how little they actually know about drivers of economic activity. Hayek for the win again.

[@MarkJones-gt2qd]

The basic definition of economics is the study of scarce resource. Are you sure you are an economist?

[@mistersir3020]

@@CB-vt3mx  Austrians know even less of economics

[@deanchur]

I just look at Economics as the study of Incentive, though this might piss off Economists since that puts it close to Psychology.

[@johnnyappleseed6960]

Note to Economists... The male employees no longer feel the juice is worth the squeeze! If they no longer feel they can support a family of 4, then making someone else fabulously wealthy it isn't worth their personal effort.

[@tedlogan4867]

In raw numbers at different age groups, yes males make up a significant proportion of disability claims, HOWEVER, when looking at the overall lifetime receipt of monies, females receive over 80% of all government social program money.

[@SoloRenegade]

yup, women receive the bulk of both death, disability, and retirement benefits. often due to inheriting it from men. and men have more disabilities due to performing ALL the dangerous and deadly jobs.

[@LeftyCrusher9000]

Men work to achieve a goal. Most goals include at some point to provide for a family. If you take away the prospect of having a family. You take his goals. If every female wants models with a 6 figure income…. That’s gonna make a lot of men not give a shit about a future.

[@runeingebretsen8378]

Excactly take away the reason for men to make an effort,and he wont care anymore,damn, the big brain on the people working in the gov.

[@thehammer9599]

@@runeingebretsen8378who voted for this? Women. Who let them vote? Simps. Solution, end 19A and move to a net-tax-payer only system. Chance of implementation pre-collapse? Zero. Post-collapse? 100%.

[@mindfortress105]

I went to Philippines recently on vacation. There, the women actually show interest in me, random people on the streets are actually friendly and respectful, just for the sake of it. I actually felt like I'm welcome there. Now that's a society where I have motivation to work, contrubute and earn lots of money. When I came back home, literally the first interaction I had was a store clerk greeting me with "what do you want?". So yeah, fuck the west, nothing here is giving me motivation to work, other than earning enough money so I can leave for good

[@e-rod1596]

The Philippines and earning lots of money don't go together, my friend. People are starving there and when they see you , they see you as "the great white hope" as they think westerners are all rich.

[@Ominiumshadow24]

​@@e-rod1596Sounds like a yes and no situation. I rather be over in that area, then waste my beloved time. In this sewage injector. America and the west is land of the cucks.

[@manager4409]

They're shit testing white men for sure to see how much crap you'll take

[@e.l.norton]

Japan is very similar. Western society is pure poison.

[@basedmanlett]

In west only 6ft tall guys are "welcomed"

[@oceanhedonist265]

Answer: Lack of quality poontang? 🤔😅

[@nickbeaucage4711]

Lied to, watched UC Berkeley admin actively discriminate about SWM. Nothing happened to the administrators, they laughed about it. When merit stopped being directly proportional to income people got demoralized. Then quit.

[@svalbard01]

That's what happened in communist USSR too. Funny how communism has that effect here, too.

[@SoloRenegade]

@@svalbard01 because what is happening in the western nations IS communism.

[@70two41five]

My ex went to Cal Berkeley and she told me stories like this all the time

[@nickbeaucage4711]

@@70two41five berkeley is my “hometown”. I was always an outsider. The race baiting and bigotry of low expectations is the virus that infects. I recall Ebonics was to be a language class at my high school about 1992. My best friend was half black half who’re his moms white she personifies the woke liberal lefty. Still thinking this is a continuation of the civil rights movement. Saying it’s all way harder for black people, no data just white people bad. JBP analysis showed white womens highest in ingroup hatred.

[@disciple786]

When he went back to the 1950's to source his data at peak male labor force participation when the other economist had her source starting from the 1970's for some reason I was like damn this dude is talented. When he then observed the phenomenon of too many fat chicks in the market I realized... this dude is a genius.

[@polishpimp4233]

In fairness back in the 1950s women HAD to be fit and feminine or they were going to be destitute. Also we were the true winner of world war 2. Japan was levelled, Germany was levelled, Poland got levelled, England had it's fair share of being hammered. The United States were the true winner of world war 2. You couple us having a world class industrial complex AND women still needing provisioning created a situation where the average guy could have a reasonably attractive woman at his side giving him the motivation to keep soldiering on. Keep in mind a lot of men did not come back after world war 2 across the world so there was a scarcity of men. With the current feminist imperative men have 2 options. Either blow their wives metaphorical penis or say to hell with it and walk away. Men are not as agreeable as women biologically speaking so men are quitting this role that society has shoved into our faces... at least the men with some spine and self respect. The 2 genders are going to have to come back to the table and have a complex and potentially idealistically soul crushing discussion on both ends.

[@DGuerriero]

In 1960 about 31% of high-school-leaving men went to college; by 2020 that figure was about 38%. What's happened is that the number of high-school women who went on to college in that same time skyrocketed from about 21% to about 57%. It was easy to sell impressionable young women on the idea of "empowering" college degrees. Trouble is that maybe half of those women borrowed tens of thousands of dollars for financially-worthless degrees...and they'll have to pay that back...on low-wage jobs...without a male partner's wages. Oops. And yes, the "solution" will involve more Gub'mint Money thrown at favored constituencies, like colleges.

[@logicalchaos9008]

I'm 60 and my job will help pay me to go to school. If they pay then why not?

[@0volts157]

I guess those women can slither over to simphub (aka Only f@ns) and rid themselves of their debt.

[@JimJones-gd2jy]

@@logicalchaos9008- ? That’s something a 20 year old would say, not a 60 year old 😳 damn

[@DanTheManIOM]

like unfair and unconstitutional student loan forgiveness just to buy votes in the last election, destroy the family, let the govt support and enslave as many as they can with promises of free stuff...

[@dmonk926]

Oh they are getting a male partners wages one way or another...just some of those partners have no idea they are partners. Overpriced vaginas are the biggest drag on the economy (in both the wards of the state they produce and the money men put into it (pun intended) instead of investing in business or education .

[@shazmodeus2795]

Before the video starts, I'm going to take an educated guess and say it's because their are no longer any "wife material" women, thus men no longer have children or a spouse to provide for, so they work the bare minimum to live a comfortable single life.

[@johnpapa8681]

I love work. I just don't want to work just to give it to women. The more a guy makes, the harder he gets ravaged in the divorce courts. Men buy big houses, expensive cars, jewelry, and expensive vacations, all for women. There is incentive for men to not work.

[@TheY2AProblem]

Like who's better off? A man, or even a the few couples out there who combined, make $50k a year but live in a small home with one car? Or a couple with a combined income of $250k a year with a $400,000 mortgage and two $50,000 cars? The couples with $250 are in debt up to their eyeballs but it's the frugal one's who are the real problem. These "happy wife/happy life"-normies stick their dicks in a mousetrap and then wonder later why their dick hurts.

[@ShibaMcDripNu]

smart quiet quitting should be the norm

[@redridingcape]

I like work too. I just save money for myself and plan to retire early and replace work with more hobbies. I'm 26 and have 120kish saved rn.

[@jack3493]

@@redridingcapedo you have that in cash or are you investing too (stock market, metals, etc.)?

[@redridingcape]

​​@@jack3493I have 20k~ in a money market that I keep for emergencies. 60k~ is in my roth 401k in the S&P 500 and international index funds. 40k~ in S&P 500 that I'm saving which I will eventually use to buy a house since I'm currently renting. Edit: in case you want an explanation as to why I use index funds, they have very low fees since they don't need much management, it diversifies your investments very widely, and the market as a whole tends to outperform individual investors over long periods of time.

[@rickyrando3076]

Simple answer, THE DREAM IS DEAD! Why should I go through hell and debt. For families that are as stable as sand, For jobs that are pits with no reward or advancement, for a country that sold my future out to the rich and themselves. I look out into modern wasteland and I see no reason to fix it.

[@ro6742]

Go Galt! It’s a thing. We are doing more damage through supply chain and reduction of taxable income than any so-called “protest” could ever do. It is, quite literally, the LEAST we can do. 😎👍

[@kylebroflovsky6015]

Yup, I will not actively cause damage or harm, sabotage. I will though, refuse to engage, choose not to participate and withdraw from contributing my money and only minimally offer my service such that I get equal reciprocity. Otherwise, I’m out. If they announce I am not wanted or needed, so be it.

[@thehammer9599]

Here’s the situation in the UK. When you achieve moderate success in your field (let’s say £100k+ pa). Your marginal tax rate goes to approximately 55%. Imagine the motivation bomb-shell you face when you’ve done everything right and then realise you are closer to a common serf than you care to tolerate. Bottom line - why work harder to feed the beast that hates you?

[@mikey92362]

​@@thehammer9599 "Why work harder to feed the beast that hates you?" I think you just explained the best reason to avoid marriage as well. :)

[@mikey92362]

I went full Galt 15 years ago. Best decision I ever made.

[@luckyskivvy6077]

Look at the rise of Son Husbands. I work my ass off for years because I put myself in system. 1) Got married ➡ got divorced. 2) Had children ➡ lost my kids and pay child support. 3) Bought a home ➡ my taxes are going up. My neighbor is a single older woman. Her useless son (35) has never worked. He follows her like a little boy. He has raggedy women walking to mom's house for sex. At most he cuts grass. He reaps more pleasure and leisure from society with less work. Chemically pleasure is pleasure. Why work hard?

[@mattg5978]

Well where was this sons father? It’s the fathers job to turn the boy into a man. That’s what society is lacking.

[@luckyskivvy6077]

@@mattg5978 🤣🤣🤣 Between the late 1700s - 1800s, judges ruled in favor of "What's best for the child." Thus setting a +200 year legal precedence that mothers get custody of children. Women are in control. Some men are born useless. Some mothers instilled uselessness in men.

[@roachfamily2434]

@@mattg5978 all you got out of that is it's dad's fault?

[@jakee8733]

@@mattg5978you get to turn your son into a man if his mother will let you😂😂

[@riomio7852]

You been following me? lmao im 26 and doing everything the same as that man. lmao

[@johnathanmandrake7240]

☕ Edit: 26y/o associate degree, CNC machinist, making 50kish a year. Fuck this modern world, the stupid, and demonic, unfortunately, and fortunately will starve.

[@davidb3155]

You can take that skill to the merchant fleet and easily double that salary

[@johnathanmandrake7240]

​@@davidb3155googling what a merchant fleet is rn.

[@TheConqueror009]

Is that before or after tax

[@georgesontag2192]

One thing for sure, men know now if they work hard, save and buy a house and land, it all goes to her in divorce. They know they wont get half, and also know they being lied to.

[@RiotforPeacePlz]

That and a crap house cost more then a mansion did in your grandparents days.

[@kludgedude]

“All things being equal” is a common economic phrase. It’s never true.

[@noneyaratman714]

I wonder if half of the mental disabilities, the real ones that is are the results of being medicated for being normal boys, and an urban culture that makes every thing that a healthy boy would want to do frowned upon, or actually made illegal.

[@markumoeder]

Yes,this is how woman made me disable aswell, it's like they disabled those boys on purpuse to cater and "baby" them like a pet cat, that older woman still could nagg against someone who they would love , a disabled normal looking young guy,thats on a same level of a hoe.

[@runeingebretsen8378]

They have been made insane by their mother,it begins with her and ends with her.

[@SansSentiments]

"makes every thing that a healthy boy would want to do frowned upon, or actually made illegal." The most interesting things for healthy boys always was to do the thing that was somewhat illegal me thinks. But I am from the country, so legal and illegal was never really the deciding cathegory, it was more about "will the community be bothered beyond the agreed upon threshold?" In the cities that threshold is just agreed upon by Karens and not by the people actually running the place.

[@imagoodlistener2730]

Likely. Sad what they did to my generation with Ritalin and the like. More emasculation, more control. We done want to teach to male interests, teacher cries they don't pay attention or sit still so let's give them drugs. Yea!😅

[@1594simonsays]

Yep we live in a gaslighting hyper controlling evil nanny state and daddy government is now the arbiter of all truths

[@redridingcape]

"2/3rds of the population is that smart huh?" Got a chuckle out of me.

[@8bitdragoninstall182]

@@InfiniteVibes-lm1sqespecially community colleges.

[@8bitdragoninstall182]

@@InfiniteVibes-lm1sq I can believe it, at base level you ask em’ a few basic questions and they short circuit.

[@clownworld4655]

Same. I went to college for IT solely because I'm a veteran and literally got paid to go by the government. Within the first month I noticed it was a total scam, a waste of time, and unbelievably easy. Also college students were the dumbest people I've ever encountered in my life. I've had far more engaging and thought provoking conversations with basic laborers that are stereotyped as being dumb

[@who346]

if more than 10% is smart, wouldnt that just be AVERAGE?

[@Servant_of_Christ]

I don't work because I don't have to. I'm living on my sailboat, my cost of living is $3500 per year including everything, new underwear and all. In 13 years my government pension starts dropping in, until then I'm living on my saved money for my family start that never happened. Next year I'm sailing to southeast Asia where I will retire for good 53 years old. No woman no cry!

[@djja8844]

This is the way. Cheap housing, eliminate rent if possible.

[@marcmeinzer8859]

I spent 12 years at sea and there is no doubt that the best way to avoid zoning and building code restrictions on tiny houses and camper trailers is to move onto a used sailboat. All you really need to do is go to Seattle, buy a used 30 foot sailboat, then motor up the inside passage to Alaska and anchor out somewhere where you won’t get hassled by anyone, and spend your time fishing and gathering firewood.

[@ShibaMcDripNu]

angry peeps. no future, property, asset, partner, children. forced bug diets, pod living. hmmm me wonders what will happen, minecraft?

[@TarsonTalon]

A LOT of Minecraft.

[@angeldevildx]

Haven't started the video yet, but I'm 100% sure they're going to address the gender quotas and it's consequences on the male psyche as they keep applying for jobs but get turned down with vague excuses.

[@hitandruncommentor]

Yep. I know quiet a few millenia men that just say Gen x and boomer men apply or get driven out high positions so a non-white possibly none male employee could have it and they were worthless. Or how many times you get called in the office because of chick's feelings over a minor incident.

[@parrotshootist3004]

gender and diversity quotas. Women are next.

[@petemorton8403]

Human Resources is 90% female. Easy sit down authority.

[@8bitdragoninstall182]

It’s always vague bullshit, I don’t feel bad for those people’s jobs being taken by machines. 😂

[@untitled795]

all the replies to your comment are hidden. Probably because you're right and "they" want to stifle this conversation.

[@zeroinblack7317]

If I knew I could have a wife that wouldn't run and steal then I would have a family.

[@RK-ds7im]

Good luck, the state pays women handsomely to leave…

[@pplebite8844]

It's not so much that they got it wrong, it's just that they can't bring themselves to tell the truth. If men are so simple, how come these journos never get this correct?

[@skanlynes4789]

It’s just not serious enough of a problem yet, for them to be honest about how to fix the problem.

[@runeingebretsen8378]

wife and children,problem solved,but the state has made men the enemy for women,so this will take some time.

[@vex6559]

They couldn't fix it if they tried... it'd take a generation to be raised, with the old values, by the same degenerates who no man would touch with a ten thousand foot pole. It'd be the blind leading the blind, but even the foundation...what man is gonna simp for these straight up hoo-oars.

[@jasonshults368]

They don't want the problem fixed, or the problem would never have existed. The social engineers running this show are devious, and some would say evil, but they aren't stupid.

[@skanlynes4789]

@@jasonshults368 true. It’s all by design.

[@whiskeywight7844]

I'm reading this book right now called "weapons of the weak" (James c Scott) that'd about the history of non violent forms of resistance. Foot dragging, evasion, feigned Ignornace, pilfering, cheating the system, etc etc. But also _why_ populations resort to doing these things. When open revolt is too impractical but it's clear the ruling elite doesn't care about you (and in fact openly detest you), there's no reason to contribute. In our modern world, day after day were bombarded with propoganda about how awful men are and about how we need to make continual sacrifices for women and minorities when it's clear they're just milking the benefits of affirmative action while men; white men in particular do all the actual work. And the coproate elite is *SO* absurdly out of touch, they need "studies" to piece together why men are fed up and not playing the game anymore. This is how civilizations collapse. Not from war or catastrophe but by enough people refusing to be a part of it. We look at the fall of empires as massive events, but nobody seems to talk what led up to that. Mass non compliance are the gradually increasing shoals on which the ship of state will eventually crash upon.

[@Torgo1001]

Michael Grant wrote on the fall of the Roman Empire in his 1990 book "The Fall of the Roman Empire," emphasizing that not only did the barbarian invasions lead to the Western Roman Empire's collapse, also the apathy and gradual withdrawal from civil society of all classes of Roman society were a contributor to Rome's collapse.

[@redrustyhill2]

​@@Torgo1001to sum it all up in one word: HEDONISM. rome was more concerned with pleasure seeking and opulent living, than keeping the machine greased with diligence and hard work.

[@skylinefever]

@@redrustyhill2 Maybe if it was easier to feel pleasure, people wouldn't have hedonic pursuits. Who actually lives for misery? Who isn't trying to get more pleasure out of life?

[@redrustyhill2]

Dont be dumb. Huge difference between being hedonist or being acetic. The world isn't either black or white, good or bad, there is grey scale. Not seeking pleasure does NOT equal seeking misery.

[@maddyg3208]

Back in 1987, one of my university lectures raved about Weapons of the Weak. So I asked my mother to give it to me for my birthday, which she kindly did (funnily, when she ordered it, the shop originally thought it was a weekly magazine about weapons) I've never finished it though, because I found it too hard to get past the extensive Malaysian village field study. It did make an impression on me by my lecturer's highlighting the economic and social impacts of foot dragging etc.

[@25Soupy]

I graduated university in 2000. Me and a buddy were sitting at my apartment and decided to breakdown what was the purpose of our degrees, why we wanted a degree and what was the point of it all? We came up with one word: It's all about the "vigina" . It's as simple as that. Here we are 23 years later and both of us have chosen to stay single. My friend is 50 years old, still lives in government housing with his mother and delivers pizza for a living. I retired 2 years ago from full time work and currently work part-time weekends and stat holidays only (2-3 days a week) that covers all my expenses and I even bank some money every month. I have $4k a month in dividends coming in which I currently reinvest into more dividend stocks. I got my Mexican permanent resident visa 2 weeks ago and look to retire full time whenever I feel like it.

[@mysticaltyger2009]

*vagina

[@lfisher4539]

Could you please tell me how I can invest? Thanks. I wanna leave the uk

[@Epoch-vu8cj]

I haven't been back to the workforce since the jab mandates. They have asked me to come back numerous times but I have no interest in ever returning tbh. I have investment income so I'll skate by on that. I'm out

[@nomadictow3011]

pretty simple dude, the last thing that's keeping me on the rat race of work is not being homeless and getting ahead, but the money keeps loosing its value due to the losers in charge of the government and the populace at large who themselves are losers who keep chipping away at the value of the money, I keep asking myself why bother, these loser keep killing the last reason to show up and work, the money sucks now and I've been semi homeless in the past living out of my van in the city, to be honest, I miss doing that, Do you know how much money I saved not paying rent or mortgage, paying for electricity, water, trash or land taxes, it was a freeing experience working a job and not having bills destroy my pay check, and my money stacked up fast.

[@tylerhaddock6999]

"What do we want? A GIRL WORTH FIGHTING FOR!" MULAN 1998

[@DoporaBHe6o]

It is silly how people are trying to figure out why men are NOT participating in slavery instead of asking "why would smn want to be a slave". Honestly I don't see how a house by the age of 50-60 would help me to enjoy the rest of my earlier life. Like seriously? Why would anyone expect that? And now what pikachu face? F this clown world fr

[@itstheiceman11]

My only reason to work now is work towards retiring early. I don't care about having a wife, girlfriend, kids or none of that crap. Rather deal with escorts at this point in my life.

[@personnesenki4521]

Unmarried guys with no kids don't need a lot of money to live on their own. When you can get by doing gig work on an irregular basis, why bother doing more?

[@codyvandal2860]

bro I live in a small apartment in eastern europe where my rent is $250 a month. women are thin and mostly nice. I make $2,200 a month from the US online. Life feels so easy that sometimes I almost feel guilty. My heart goes out to the guys stuck in the rat race and getting screwed back in the states.

[@PassionateSpirit88]

Men back in the day were more motivated to be responsible and work when they were going to get a good woman in return, had power and authority, had community, their country respected them, you get the point.......

[@DoIoannToKnow]

i'll run myself ragged for my family, but if I don't have a family to do that for - why exactly would I do it? all of this is on purpose. This is no mistake that every facet of a normal society is being completely inverted

[@who346]

WHY? You work hard*ragged for the first 10 years. Saving and investing, securing your house/property. Work it till you get enough FU*L You Money. Meaning, at that point. Your boss dont control YOUR Life*that job dont Control your LIFE. and it sure helps when something violates your Morals Values Ethics and Principles. No debt, lots of investments means better quality of life* nicer vacations longer vacations...it actually gets fun.

[@Dhime]

11:45 lol nailed it. No reason to make 6 figures if not going to pursue a family. I’d imagine most bachelors feel the same.

[@stevearnold8265]

Same here. I’ll never work long hours because I don’t care about products. I need food and shelter and very little things. Am I supposed to work hard so everyone think I’m “cool”. 😂

[@ordinaryhuman5645]

Yup. I made $100k for a couple if years. Didn't need the extra money, so when my retirement accounts were sufficiently padded I dropped down to working part time. Even with $50k/year I'm still making significantly more than I spend.

[@prfolkler]

Cappy with all due respect I have to disagree.... THEY ARE THAT DENSE. remember this truth: MANKIND IS NOT A RATIONAL CREATURE, HE IS A RATIONALIZING ONE

[@philhenry5096]

In Germany you actually lose money when you go working, depending on where you live the housing and gas costs are so brutal you can go both working and have welfare. Working for merits and fun!

[@Hoffmanpack]

I worked for 2 years and a judge ruled that I get 20% of my pay. He expected me to hire a lawyer with that 20% to fight him. A lawyer said it wasn't worth it.

[@beatdown3361]

Child support?

[@Brad-pc3bi]

I drive an hour and a half both ways to work so 15 hours per week and I work 40 hours a week on average in construction. My boss offers no benefits little overtime and went over time is offered its at the last minute and mandatory which sucks. There are no bonuses and he absorbs all the profit. Life in America really sucks right now Edit: Asked boss for a 2 dollar an hour raise before Christmas. Was fired the following day for having a poor attitude.

[@BroBdoubleE]

One. Work sucks. Two. Welfare. Three. Diversity hiring. Four. HR. Five. The inflation rate vs pay rate. Six. Lack of opportunity from the opposite sex. Seven, ties in to five... Cost increase rate of assets and liability in proportion to wages. Yeah that about sums up the issues, thanks for doing the Lord's work on this. As soon as they said "more men are going to collage." I would have stopped reading cause I know BS when I hear it.

[@jpalm500]

Better to live like the indians. Hunt, fish, bang and live like god intended instead of being a robot.

[@neutronshiva2498]

Or be a cassino owner😅

[@BiffJohnsonIII]

@@neutronshiva2498 lolz

[@TarsonTalon]

@@neutronshiva2498At this point it's more respectable than being either a 'journalist' or a politician. AT LEAST CASSINO OWNERS GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO WIN.

[@FreedomTalkMedia]

End the corn subsidies. End community property in family court. End child support. End the food guide pyramid.

[@Dan-gs3kg]

All correct.

[@nikitaw1982]

end loonie women getting custody over stable dads. rewarded for ending marriages with stable guys they chose

[@redrustyhill2]

If subsidies to farmers was cut off you wouldn't be able to afford to eat once reality hits and food commodities reflect true cost of production. You'd be paying over 10$ for a loaf of cheap ass wonder bread and a gallon of milk would set you back the same. Only the ultra wealthy could afford meat.

[@skylinefever]

End the lobbyists who come up with this shit, and buy both political parties to keep it going.

[@tdtvegas]

Ethanol is domestic terrorism.

[@whatever3749]

My buddy is an apprentice electrician in B.C Canada. When he first started women were given a $3000 incentive and men given $1000. Some of the men were claiming to be transgender to get the $3000 and they got it. They couldn't argue against the men because they made that insane woke policy. Similar to the female bench press record getting shattered in Canada by a man claiming to be a woman for a day. One of the young apprentice men self deleted himself during the program.

[@grobinson4805]

I can work my ass and still get the same dating results… 0 😂. And if I can date it’s never someone worth starting a family with.

[@spiritanimal7516]

Why work if you don't have to?

[@runeingebretsen8378]

Why work,for what,to pay more taxes,sure good luck.

[@skylinefever]

Yes, I love mocking the "Nobody wants to work anymore" line. Nobody ever wanted to work. At one time, people had incentive to work anyway. Nobody wants to work for you pathetic wages to serve Karen customers in death trap environments.

[@kaptainwarp]

Not enough pay combined with excess taxation. Work simply doesn't pay. Make work earn again.

[@ADobbin1]

Because they are hiring more women for the exact same number of available jobs that would be there if they were only hiring men.

[@itsrelativ3967]

Yeah. Hiring or promoting a 5'0 200 lbs female to be manager drives down male productivity and stresses them out. I've been seeing this a lot in warehouse/logistics. Guys get a female supervisor and they suddenly hate coming to work.

[@Vapourwear]

@@itsrelativ3967you know your opportunity just dried up, no advancement unless you’re part of the “girls’ club.”

[@8bitdragoninstall182]

@@itsrelativ3967it’s honestly annoying, The landwales that are slave driving men into quitting to begin with.

[@zondervonstrek]

I heard most investment houses specifically hire "math guys' rather than "investors" or people with a business record. That should hint at what they are really planning.

[@pamus6242]

citigroup hires mathematicians since a long time. Blockchain is strictly a mathematical business model. Investors are a dead end. Anyone with a technical acumen can get to an investor/angel level.

[@zondervonstrek]

@@pamus6242 If blockchain is ever the "answer" or even involved... you are in the wrong.

[@DeadeyeMarksman]

Corporate America is just government sanctioned scammers

[@jackdeniston59]

Economists, in my experience, do not really see human nature as a thing, we are alljust the same economic unit. Even behavioural economists have no concept.

[@codyvandal2860]

Precisely. The regard human beings as interchangeable economic units which can be shuffled around the globe without consequence. Social, cultural, and political realities that are obvious to others are "outside the scope" of their field and so they aren't taken into account. It's a presupposition of their entire professional identity.

[@skylinefever]

Indeed. This is why so many "experts" keep falling for magic dirt fallacies.

[@crapmalls]

The house i was renting made more money than i did going to work over 8 years. Done

[@JKTProductionzIncNCo]

Yup modern day fuedalism.

[@poorpotato7623]

This is the real damage that mgtow can do, through collective inaction we can bring down the system that oppresses us.

[@TarsonTalon]

Seems to be the way to go. A violent revolution won't go anywhere, they would use that as an excuse to fully enslave us. However, if they try to draft us for WWIII, then it's a different story because then we'd have them fighting on two fronts.

[@derekclawson5707]

Dismantling the oppressive establishment 😅

[@Bunker278]

What incentive is left anymore?

[@TarsonTalon]

If you don't plan to take over when it all crumbles, none.

[@DreidMusicalX]

Leftists, taxes, low wages, no retirement plans, nagging woman in the work place where you have to continuously go behind them and fix their mistakes and ending up having to do their job a second time. The list is actually endless. It's why I retired at age 37. I have been very happy ever since and now 55. I'm just happy I started working young, saved, and was able to land a killer job when it was still good, before it turned to crap.

[@robbenvanpersie1562]

Are you married

[@patrickmiano7901]

Men are still working. But they are working in trade jobs or are self-employed and are often off the grid. Why work in an environment where you are afraid to even look at a female employee (even for two seconds) and lose your job?

[@tedlogan4867]

There are some economists who see things, who are insightful and understand what's going on. The biggest issue with the mainstream economists is they are eggheads and socially isolated academics who have near zero human experience. They don't understand how to human, because they don't live or work around humans, their entire experience is in their parallel dimension. To be successful economists, one must understand human nature, and most of them don't believe in the concept of human nature to begin with, so there we are.

[@ashwinbalu]

They see people as numbers and graph

[@Sapwolf]

Bingo!

[@tedlogan4867]

@@Scotty_Bo0m You're conflating stupidity with experience and social exposure. These so-called academics live in an alternate reality.

[@skylinefever]

I think some people with economics degrees are simply paid to talk. Then some soyjak says "Trust the experts!"

[@tedlogan4867]

@@skylinefever Yes, that's to my point. Experts in what? Never having engaged in any economic philosophy in practice, an entire career in the realm of academic theory, insulated by choice from reality, but they somehow know because of a piece of paper.

[@superdave8248]

Why are men out of the work force? There are so many reason it would fill a book. But here is just some of the reasons IMO. 1. It became acceptable for adult children to continue to live with their parents. Whether we are talking single mothers or single men, the younger generation see how much it costs to live comfortably in the US. And they know that they won't be able to have that standard of living they grew up with. Broadband internet and central heating and air are things that only became come in homes since the 1990s. Prior to that, kids left home to be on their own because their parents quality of life wasn't much different than what they could experience. Now, that difference is huge. 2. It doesn't matter if the job pays $15 an hour. The younger people see $15 / hour as minimum wage. A job has to pay at least $25/hr to even get people interested. And the younger people expect a low entry job is going to pay like it is management and comes with perks and benefits like they were working at Twitter before Elon Musk came in. 3. Single parent homes. And since women make up the vast majority of these, it has to be said single mother homes. Education isn't pushed at home. Low discipline. No motivation. 4. Too many social services. Even young men now are trying to find ways to get on the social services dime. Programs that were initially intended as a helping hand to unwed mothers has now morphed into something that practically anybody could apply for. 5. Society has broken down. Social media is promoting women to be the prize and they can literally gain a prince charming if they simply screw enough men with resources. The average male now gets ignored. And with that goes any desire to achieve and perform in the work place. And when women do figure out this approach isn't working, men write them off as they have children and have had way to many sexual partners. 6. Taxes. People want side hustles that they can earn money under the table. Local, state, and federal taxes are viewed to be too high by many. Seriously, look at all of your taxes on your paystub and you will probably see that you are losing around 1/4 of your paycheck to taxes. Women can get around this if they have kids out of wedlock on their tax returns. Men generally cannot because they don't get custody of their kids even if they married and then divorced. 7. Laws against men. Whether we are talking divorce court where the partner with the more resources gets racked over the coals or whether we are talking child court where the courts rule in the mothers favor and the child support payments are more than the father can pay and still provide for themselves. At the end of the day, men don't want to gain the resources and risk losing it.

[@superdave8248]

@@cordfortina9073 I'm not sure there is anything wrong with one or two. I'm just outlining some of my opinions why men have exited the work force. But with that said, you can never have a "fair living wage" in society. Because as you inflate income, you also inflate prices to cover said income gain for your works. This adds to inflation which leaves you back to where you were originally. Your workers can't make enough to cover their living expenses. People who promote pay increases tend to not realize how that impacts everything else cost wise. That burger you bought off the dollar menu likely didn't cost a "dollar". It probably cost $2. Maybe even $3. Why? Because that inflated salary didn't just go to the buy who cooked the burger and made it, it also went to the guy whose business cuts up the pickles into slices. It covers the guy whose business made and packaged the cheese. It covers the guy at the bakery. The guy transporting the goods. The guy who slaughtered the beef or who made the condiments. That restaurant saw an increase to their supply chain across the board. The cups cost more. The patties cost more. The paper, the sauces, even the utilities all cost more because people pushed a universal salary increase without taking inflation into consideration. Six months after his salary increase odds are that guy is no better off than he was. His gas cost more now. His food definitely cost more now (labor intensive production). His rent went up. His clothes went up. His utilities cost more. ETC. There is always going to be winners and losers in the economic rat race. Trying to level the playing field with a "living wage" doesn't do anything to help anybody.

[@badart3204]

⁠​⁠@@superdave8248you are missing the mark on inflation. If the worker makes 20% more and goods only increase by 10% this is a win for most of society. If the economic rat race becomes too non competitive and too bad for those at the bottom then they can revolt. The Arab spring for example occurred largely because the conditions at bottom got too bad to be tolerated and thus they overthrew the old regimes aka those who won the past system

[@DarkArtsDeepDive]

Dude, how could you not include inflation as one of your main reasons men are dropping out of the labor force. There’s no reason to work 60 hours a week when you’re going to be paying the bankers for 30 years for a rundown $500,000 3 bedroom. Why would a man chose to be a slave?

[@diseabronx5075]

Cappy’s a true man of culture when he pulls Trigun out of his mental Anime list.

[@8bitdragoninstall182]

Love and peace!!

[@holdmyhandtv]

NPNW. Why would I work harder for something the government or an ex wife would take from me? Men are consistently looked at as expendable

[@straycat156]

Why provide to a society that hates me?

[@deejay8ch]

@straycat156 our transition from being prosperous citizens to becoming serfs makes it feel like hate but it's more that society has become increasingly toxic, hostile, unaccommodating and removed from reality. People that are weak, narcissistic, deranged or sociopathic get into positions of power and abuse it for their own benefit, generally because they're far from OK mentally. Good people then suffer. Good people need to find each other, help each other, work together, and just push back, whatever amount, over time, no matter what. The best revenge is living well, but when 'they' take that option away, the next best thing is to just continue to do the right thing. Egoless resistance is the noblest defiance.

[@billphister]

Crazy thought: If you want to know why men aren't working, try asking men who aren't working. But no, they'll do "studies" and ask rich men and Feminists to explain the behavior of these men. Because, you know, they're the "experts" on the subject.

[@ainslie187]

Too many people are on the dole or government employed and can legislate their own pay raises at the expense of the productive private sector. It goes against the very essence of meritocracy.

[@Scott-lz3pp]

Cappy, please give me a small break here. I have a degree in nuclear engineering, and a State license. I also have been officially diagnosed with anxiety, depression, OCD, PTSD, and finally Asburger's (high-functioning autism). I never asked for special favors, and honestly wondered why I was getting fired (getting to work too early was one reason that they put on paper, and I can prove!) from jobs. So I worked for my entire life, but was forced to change jobs too often to earn a decent pension. My IQ is 142, but my lack of social skills seems to be why people didn't want me around. I even worked as a rent-a-cop for 8.75/hour, and sold my car. Now I just have money for rent and booze. Lucky me. But please don't insult me for having some "issues" that made life difficult, but I never asked for any handouts. Nobody paid me for anything but honest work, and that was just fine with me. It will be depressing to allow my engineering licenses to expire next year, but that is just how my life worked-out, as hard as I tried. Maybe in the next life...

[@mrmitchell4089]

You have to get up and figure it out.

[@tonyjones1560]

Dude, that second comment here is scripture for you. You got a nuclear engineering degree, you’re more than smart enough to figure this stuff out👍🏾👍🏾

[@city_of_coompton6832]

You should try to get a remote job where you don't have to talk to normies face to face

[@user-te7wc7lh4r]

​@@city_of_coompton6832agreed Mr coom

[@fifthward1983]

i got sent to hr for getting to work too early , i told them i need to get there early so i can find a parking spot, there are more parking passes than parking spots. they couldnt argue with me because they know im telling the truth.

[@MrBananaLady-]

Might have something to do with lack of incentives., jobs are not paying what they used to relative to expenses., and many of the real manly men who would do the hard work are actually just as happy living in a trailer in a foreign country near a beach. Sorry society, perhaps an empowered woman will fix your car, your plumbing, your roof, furnace, water heater, power grid, street lights, and fix things at the nuclear power plant. Perhaps not, it’s not my problem, because I don’t have kids.

[@joaoportugal8618]

Immigrants, especially illegal immigrants will try to fix the system for the next 20 years. This is the solution that western governments are applying now. The problem is that most of those immigrants don´t have skills. I´m thinking the same, move to another country to the beach. Maybe Brazil, Philippines or Zanzibar... I´m thinking that the only way i´m going to work in a crappy job is only to get a second passport/citizenship.

[@harveylin3548]

This whole college thing has become the new welfare. It's not like a lot of Gen Y holds a degree, only 33% of us ever went to college. The whole college loan situation is basically welfare for the upper middle class, with a few splash to the lower classes.

[@tailgunner2]

17:30. This man put to words what I been thinking for the past 5 years. I work in the trades as an electrician, im ready to throw my tools away.

[@who346]

You cant throw your TOOLS away, they were already stolen out of your truck/van while you pulled up to the worksite....TOO Late, go buy them back at the pawn stores/Hardware stores....Why are men walking away? Blind people know.

[@lesterdiamond6190]

I've noticed a definite trend of women being promoted WAY beyond their level of competence. Thank goodness I don't work with women at my home shop, but when I roll out to calls I deal with some of the dumbest, laziest, malingering, buck-passing, responsibility-dodging POS in society. And you guessed it, they're women. The worst part is the younger ones are also being indoctrinated with all this woke bs as well as possessing all the regular entitlement we've all come to expect in the bitter old battleaxes.

[@keith4826]

It’s a sad time for young Men now. Hoeflation, inflation and the courts are stacked against us

[@markflierl1624]

Are you union? Because that the worst for respect.

[@yaynetwork1483]

Would be awesome if a large number of American men agreed upon another country to move to then made it the next "America", built it up into a powerhouse. I nominate the Philippines!

[@zcarjosh653]

Been a truck driver for 12 years now, approaching 6 figures. I paid 5k to get my CDL do the college math idiots!

[@stevenphillips3466]

but women laugh at you blue collar because they only want edumacated man . So they can go to their girlfriends and family and brag that they got a college man ...they cant brag about a Truck driver ( even though you are out earning the degreed man )

[@Vapourwear]

What’s a “college math idiot” and why would I want to do one?

[@alsimmons5041]

​@@Vapourwear:hopefully she's hot and not over weight.

[@stevearnold8265]

What did you start out getting paid? Any advice or recommendations to someone looking to get into trucking? Thanks!

[@e-rod1596]

$100,000 a year, $37 000 goes in taxes. Spending 120 hours a week driving in a box, sleeping in truck stops, eating junk foods, never home, no girlfriend, no life....Do the reality math idiot.

[@shanehoffman331]

Slavery never ended they just gave it a new name employee.

[@JamesWayne-kn1yg]

When work don't work for you , the solution is to NOT WORK for them .