Co-Parenting with CRAZY!

[@madaboutlove]

Some people write that they're worried about Stephen, I am worried about Laura. She looks sad to me. Her attitude changed in comparison with what used to be. She looks hurt, I hope she will find her true smile again ❤

[@firesong100100]

Well she is making shorts with Charlie Berens on his channel so maybe she is not so sad

[@heatherwitte2244]

These two will never get over each other .

[@CelticPondDweller]

Are we being played ??

[@alissalatour7332]

@@CelticPondDwellerno. They can love each other and know they can’t be together

[@oliviacrews5822]

THEYRE NOT TOGETHER!!?!?

[@katiehernandez8114]

​@@oliviacrews5822 They're divorced. They have been for awhile now.

[@Shanyata]

Lol you have some catching up to do. It's been a journey 😅​@@oliviacrews5822

[@bselbourne]

Also, Alphie is not ‘just repeating’. His brain is still taking in EVERYTHING, just like Poppy. It’s just a difference in processing. My daughter did not speak for two years, then started speaking when we were going down the aisle at the pharmacy - reading the labels! Complicated, medical words! Today she is 18 and has almost finished two years of college academically, but she cannot do so many simple social things, like go to the grocery store without getting anxious or lost on the way home. Intelligence is more of a wheel than a straight line. Please don’t think Alphie doesn’t understand who is lying and who is not.

[@moderator7169]

Alphie has autism with limited verbal ability. Stop acting like a know it all...with a child you have never met .....your experience with your child.....is not alphie

[@moderator7169]

And. He didn't say Alfie's just repeating, as and that's all he does I mean she just said he was speaking about Poppy. He said he still does that as in its part of some of his behavior or verbal language but no one said he just repeats things do you want to hear Laura say Alfie said Poppy's funny? The word just never came out his mouth like it's limited to only that

[@evew7634]

Thank you for touching on the subject of porn addiction! It is ruining a whole generation of both men and women. Destroying intimacy and creating insecurities and misery. It's awful how we are forced to just accept the fact that "all guys watch porn" and put our negative feelings about it aside.

[@MrBrindleStyle]

Now AI is an excuse to make even fouler shit!

[@jennifers.3818]

So true!! And its not just a certain age group or type of person. It affects people of all ages. Ik a couple in their late 20s who is dealing w this issue.

[@valm.0]

😂 this is such a Christian comment

[@evew7634]

@@valm.0 thank you? I'm not Christian though. Or religious at all for that matter. Just a keen observer of the fellow humans and myself.

[@SH-ht3mp]

I so agree.

[@jennifers.3818]

I love that you two are opening up these convos to us. I think its not only helpful and healing for you two, but also for so many others

[@PQsGal123]

Porn played a huge part in the destruction of my marriage. Im so glad you chose to speak on it for a bit. The correlation between porn addiction & physical affairs has been proven over & over. My ex had too many affairs to count & would also spend so much time locked in the bathroom feeding his porn addiction. After 28 years I chose divorce. Porn destroys men & women. It ruins families and its devastating how normalized it has become.

[@samanthah8260]

Im going through this my bf can't stop watching it. Like i wonder am i even attracted to him anymore... can we be together without sex idk anymore I hate him watching Porn i have none of his sexual energy night as well be cheating on me

[@Katy201000]

​@@samanthah8260 if you can leave, you deserve better and you are not there to guide him through life. You can only give so much before you break yourself. Don't sacrifice your own happiness x

[@CelticPondDweller]

Glad I grew up in 1970s when the mystery of sex was still exciting Porn is soul destroying and I can assure you I’m no female prude

[@CelticPondDweller]

@@samanthah8260 find romance leave xx

[@kirsche_au]

I loved this conversation. The mental health help you've both sought, taken and invested in is so apparent. It's a beautiful thing to see you both be able to talk so respectfully about your relative experiences and truths. Well done to both of you. You should both feel very proud 💗

[@kirsche_au]

P.S. Stephen I'm especially pleased to see you on the other side of the very angry place you were in a little while ago. I hope you continue to find more and more peace in your lives 💗

[@jennifers.3818]

To do it without anger, blaming, seething, pain. Its obvious they've both done alot of inner work. Especially Laura

[@abnormalizeit]

Now that Stephen is calmer, I actually enjoyed this episode. ❤

[@TT-kw5nj]

I love her SO much. She is so real and communicative. Hard to believe thats the same woman who sang "I can show you the world". ❤

[@Nebraskagal]

I got along a lot better with my ex-husband after we were divorced. It was like he was my little brother and he passed away 2 years ago I miss him more than anybody

[@shiizard8061]

Weird asf to say that the man you did shit wth was like a little brother to u 🤮

[@somewhatsassy67]

I get along way better with my ex now that we're divorced too. Better friends than partners. I'm sorry for your loss.

[@JasmineAlgaly]

I can so relate ❤ my ex is very much alive and problematic, but once he wasn't my problem anymore, we got along fine

[@JasmineAlgaly]

Also, so very sorry for your loss ❤

[@sashareeves2324]

I live with my current and ex husband. My ex is just like a brother to me now. It's crazy how that happens.

[@EmmaLeighR712]

Laura, I’m proud of you ❤ Glad you can both navigate co parenting, as crazy at is can be!

[@2011beanbag]

You’ve changed Laura as you’re more confident ❤❤❤❤ You’ve matured and it’s beautiful to see 🦋🦋💗💗

[@LauraMarieClery]

🥹❤️

[@emilylewis8290]

Its so inspiring to see a divorced couple that can still laugh and communicate with one another. Not only that, but be parents together. Im loving it and cant wait to see more.

[@user-bh8qm1wm4f]

Celibate many times before and I don’t bother with sexting or anything. Makes life easier just living for you and not seeking validation from others.

[@ellielynn8219]

I love you both so much. I hope you guys continue to heal. It’s a long journey but worth the work. 💜

[@peebbeep4830]

Porn totally destroyed my relationship. The trust is non-existent, our intimacy is forever altered, my self esteem and confidence is shattered, my sense of security is gone. It’s unbelievable how painful and destructive it is Horrifying how normalized and common it is

[@chasitybridgesmayes]

My intuition is spot on when my husband does something wrong, too. And he does hide it well, and won't tell me either, so I have to snoop as well when I get that gut feeling. I only snoop if I have a gut feeling. Fortunately, nothing bad has happened in a while.

[@KittyBoyLaCroix]

You sound like his mom. Thats the problem.....

[@katjaxxx7353]

and you dont think you have deserved someone who is honest? Girl ..........

[@m.langer425]

Thank you two for your openness. Laura I love your insight and self reflection. I truly believe that you’re helping others by just sharing your stories.

[@Ksanka27]

You guys have such a natural connection.... You guys are soul mates if I've ever seen a pair. Thank you guys for being so open about what you guys go through.

[@megMJ13]

Nooo Stephen really isn’t a good guy. He cheated on her allot in between kids while pregnant with poppy. He’s really either a sociopath or a narcissist if you really look into it . Laura’s the one holding it together. At some point he was living in her guest house he’s been cancelled from his high as a kite rants etc from KZbin and other apps I believe. Since the divorce he’s gone downhill like directly. That poor woman was holding it all together for years and as a recovering addict she also had to stay sober during his countless relapses

[@chloewolf9201]

​@meghanturner2062 he's not nice at all. he's fake. he's only happy when with laura. Alfie is his favourite child imo which I think is sad. hasn't laura got a boyfriend now?

[@amandaboyens]

​@@megMJ13what are you talking about?! He cheated on her once in the beginning of their relationship 😂. Not after they had kids smh

[@amandaboyens]

He also said in the beginning of the podcast he has ten years sober. He wasn't relapsing in their relationship. They both had a relapse in the beginning of their relationship. You should inform yourself before speaking

[@maryraymond8375]

I agree

[@kaitlinzimmerman1648]

I still see the love you two still have for each other. God bless you both❤

[@Catmafia5678]

P.S laura i really wouldn't listen to what Stephen says I doubt his DMs are full 😂🙈

[@abracadabra3932]

He has a lot of money... at least his family does. So there might be but I'm sure it's not for the right reasons and I don't think he really cares.

[@amandaboyens]

Theres A LOT of women who are into him

[@Sparkinthedarkness]

@@abracadabra3932he doesn’t have money. He admitted he’s living off credit cards

[@shelbooooo]

I’m not into him either, but just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean it’s not someone else’s favorite thing.

[@brittnyann]

@@amandaboyensit’s about all who are in his lives 😅

[@trinabelle4eva]

I made the first move with my husband and we are still together after 15 years, known each other 22 years though. Been married almost 10 years. My ex made the first move with me and left me after 3 and a half years. So I don't know if it matters who makes the first move. I think what is more important is that it is the right person and how you get through the good and bad times together.

[@Onyx-x9c]

He's so obviously still inlove with her,sigh.the failure of their marriage breaks my heart but i understand.

[@JairEmia]

I don't think people who love ever really stop completely even if it's buried under pain, anger and sadness. In the end both might know it would never work but the bond doesn't completely go away.

[@Magicaledelishus]

Porn is so bad 😭 For everyone, it really ruins the closeness and the intimacy and I believe it causes people to blur the lines on appropriate online behavior.

[@Allison_purin]

People forget it’s ACTING (hopefully) than showing reality/norms 🥲

[@assie74]

Watching porn is actually a big problem I read about it. It stops people getting having relationships mmong other things. And a lot of people have this addiction

[@sandrat2532]

My brother is like that and he never learned to answer any questions when you ask him something. He just expresses his needs. Hope Alfie does more when he grows up. There is a lot of work ahead

[@barrybird6000]

These episodes are like therapy for you both. Wholesome! I’ve watched everything that has been made public from these two (while together and not) and I just don’t understand all the hate. For the people commenting that he’s trying to manipulate her- do you not think that applies to you as well, commenting these unsolicited opinions and trying to influence her actions/ feelings? They’re adults and both are quite capable of making their own decisions.

[@hayleighsimon1445]

I love this. This is real life. Keep making content like this. I can see the healing energies around both of you, and this just goes to show that parents can work through their traumas instead of letting the resentments hold them back from opening up.

[@amysettle85]

Yes laura you get along with stephen still because lets be honest you allow him to say whatever he wants to you and treat you however he wants. You have turned into his doormat with no boundaries.

[@angieo2245]

Divorcing him is a boundary. He didn't expect it and didn't want it. As far as co-parenting they're always going to do that together. And that's a beautiful thing.

[@funnybunny-hb8jk]

She makes him worse and plays games with his head

[@mdkelly12]

Anyone notice anytime Laura brings a topic up. Stephen makes it about him. Like when she said "Poppy compliments everyone." He immediately said, "oh yeah she does compliment me." He does that alot with stuff Laura talks about.

[@feliciabaugh1093]

He is autistic this is pretty common practice for expressing understanding/interest by relating it to yourself.

[@evap.5121]

a lot of people with ADD or other mental illnesses in general do that.

[@ARedHeadedVegan]

I have noticed this as well and because of his autism it’s hard to tell where that comes from. People on the spectrum sometimes rub people the wrong way because they bring things back to themselves because they’re trying to show they relate and understand the topic and it can come off very self centered. So it’s hard to see his true motives sometimes especially when you don’t know this person, personally.

[@pjchurch1641]

It's her show and her approach here is closer to an interview than a regular conversation. It felt really substantive, honest and refreshing to see a divorced couple do this.

[@brydiebailey6661]

My brother is level 2 autistic and always brings topics back to himself. He is also extremely caring of friends and family. Its easy to confuse autistic tendencies with aspects of narcissism

[@tonimoracco9061]

I haven't dated physically in 9 years because of all what you're saying, I've had so many peens sent to my inbox, married and single men.its crazy

[@Tape453]

I like how they’re talking on the podcast again, we’re seeing them grow and be mature adults about it. It’s not so much trying to be together and I don’t see them getting back together in the future, I really don’t. I see two adults that were together in a toxic relationship and looking back and picking it apart to see the finer details of things and better understanding the other person and what they were going through and learning what they need to change for the next person they let into their life. They’re talking to learn, and to relieve themselves from some of the trauma.

[@Imamouseduh451]

I wish yall would bring back Helen!!!! She was my favvvvvv

[@HarleyQuinnJokr]

I love the dynamic between both of you, always had. It's nice to see you both grow as co parents and friends ❤️

[@unravel2053]

They have such a strong bond romantic or not. It's actually really lovely to see. They can both hold their hands up and be present. Love that for them as parents and the kids.

[@susie_q1]

Bond or deep unhealthy codependency? There is a very big difference.

[@amandaboyens]

​@@susie_q1most are codependent. Its not a bad thing always. Were made to be Codependent to survive

[@bethpelley]

I like that you’re showing how to be adults and communicate through issues. I love what Laura said about the one is right and one is wrong. Or one is good and one is bad. I think Laura is a gentle soul and Stephen is as well, I don’t agree with either of you on all topics, but isn’t that the point? Me and my ex are better friends now that we have separated and moved on. It can happen.

[@chasitybridgesmayes]

I also want to add that anything can be an addiction, from porn, to drugs, to church, and even being addicted to sobriety.

[@auntyboomer6531]

❤bless you both, best most relaxed convo I've heard from you both. I learn a lot from you, thankyou for your sharing of everything as you learn and grow xxx❤

[@TheSpaceyJC]

My 15 year old son is on the higher functioning side of tge spectrum. At 3, he was not potty trained, could not feed himself with a spoon or fork, and he had only 2 words. He is now about to start 10th grade fully integrated into main stream co-teaching academic classes. He has an IEP and has a support parapro for academic classes only. He has friends and so many of his peers know who he is. He still struggles with parts of his Autism. He likely always will. But he is a brilliant short film maker (Been film making since 4 years old) and loves making commercials and bumpers for existing companies. His Audio/Video teacher is blown away by his talents and abilities in film making and editing. And he is helping to lead my son into an Audio/video career. My point in saying all this...Alfie is just at the beginning of his journey. In 10 years you will be amazed at how much he has accomplished! Just keep doing what you are doing...being involved, loving parents. Cheer him on, encourage and support him with the tough stuff. And love every moment of watching him grow up into his identity. It's ok that he doesn't say "My name is Alfie". That will come in time. When my son was 5, people would ask him what his name was and he woukd say, "I'm fine." At 15, he properly introduces himself, tell the person it's nice to meet them, will high 5 his friends when he's walking down the hall at school and tell them "Hey my man". He's able. Very able. And Alfie will grow to be so able that it will make you happy and sad at tge same time. Trust me. I'm a mom of 5 and the son I'm speaking of is the last to remain at home. As our rolls as parents change its such a mix of emotions...happy/sad, excitement/worry, proud/nervous. The process of them growing up is such a whirlwind and it will go by so much faster than you can imagine. You two are great parents...you've got this! And it's because you try to provide your kids with resources and tools to grow and love and support when they stumble or struggle. Autism is a family lifestyle...embracing it is the biggest bump in the ride. After that, you are empowered to ask questions, to learn, to celebrate, to find creative solutions to struggles, to overcome obstacles and stigmas TOGETHER. My family is an Autism family...and we are proud of who we are. And I think your family is proud of who they are too. That's why Alfie's life will be a great one! Bravo to the two of you for being such amazing parents to both of your kiddos!

[@helenbarner]

All I can say is the two beautiful children you have is because of how you and Laura are whether you’re together or a part now she was the right one for you to have children with and she’s the right one to care about you because she gave you children and it’s nice that you’re able to talk about these subjects which are quite difficult and you’re very empathetic to each other. Try not to lose that Seem better and I think people have a hard time With your honesty, anybody that’s gone through real work on themselves as a couple you have to be honest that means saying and talking about things most people won’t been there done that, I so enjoy these podcast between you too :)

[@DoctorJoanieTool]

I feel like giving him a platform at this point is just about trying to get views and make money. Also, I think it’s perfectly valid to shut out a person who spews the venom that Stephen has been vomiting all over the internet the last few years. I am not anti Stephen based on your marriage/divorce. That’s your business. And I don’t join teams with people I KNOW let alone strangers on KZbin. But I have every right to hear and be repulsed by the things he says about trans people, minorities, misogyny, homophobia - right wing conspiracy, ultra toxic masculinity …. there is a reason he doesn’t get jobs from the big connections he has … there is a reason he got his KZbin channel taken away … even the way he so casually calls certain people ugly … meaning it literally. As in ‘a man can only be platonically friends with a woman who is really ugly. I cannot stand that you’re giving him this platform. *Also, ideally it’s great you can eliminate lawyers but lawyers and having a lawyer in a divorce ESPECIALLY when kids are involved; is often a very wise decision. It helps to take away the power of emotional manipulation which clearly is still going on here. You didn’t just split up for no reason. He tried to kill himself. I don’t know if he had relapsed or what was going on and again, it’s not my business. Bu your boundaries with this man need to be rock solid for your protection and the protection of your children.

[@Joraelfa]

Sticks and stones may break my bones but words could never hurt me

[@stefanystratton3324]

I very much enjoy this place they are in! Do we ever get it right? There is always going to be diff’s & tiffs in any relationship. Co parenting at times is stressful in its self! We don’t spend our time when deciding to grow our family & thru our pregnancies setting up a plan of co parenting. We think of all the things we will experience together as 1 unit under the same roof. So when we decide to separate everything we thought,planned for etc has now taken on a completely different way! It’s never easy navigating thru divorce/separation. It’s grieving in a sense. We all get to a solid place but it’s never going to be perfectly cohesive!

[@augenmaugen]

This was beautiful. I seriously think you guys could get this train (read: relationship) back on the rails with therapy to facilitate it. Even if not, beautiful to see you communicating openly and lovingly as friends and co-parents.

[@AlejandraHernandez-ff3ft]

I pursued my husband. We were in middle school and we just celebrated 17 yrs of marriage, 21 yrs together. It has so far worked for us. ❤🤞🏼

[@alyssagwynne421]

I am you laura! My hubby is Stephen! Im anxious and hes avoident. I knew and always had a feeling and he always lied directly to my face even when he knew he was caught! It has been a rocky road. I am so glad i found this podcast episode today ❤ we are still together today but still need a whole lot of work!

[@petraschlemlein6073]

I can't stop using kratom and recently relapsed on drinking. I have two kids a daughter almost seven and a son that just turned three. I'm a single mom and want todo the best for them "..(I was 19 months clean) I just needed to vent I know what I have to do but feel alone. You remind me of my baby's dad and I . We get along so well now that we aren't together. We literally made some beats on the drum last night haha. Okay sorry for the extremely long vent. Laura and Stephan you inspire me to be a better me. 😊

[@koolaid3816]

Are you talking about Toren??? I love him. My son is 16 and very similar, I send my son his tiktoks all the time and say “ is this how you feel? It opens so many conversations for us

[@LauraMarieClery]

Yesss!!!

[@feliciabaugh1093]

Toren and his mother have been such an inspiration to us ❤ PDA, being autistic, late diagnosis for adults and child led learning for the kids. It's so nice when social media has a positive influence!

[@britneyog9537]

Raising kids is hard.. especially those first few years and then add on autism (I know I have an autistic son). BUT, my husband and I stuck through it and now things are much better and easier. Every couple goes through it. You just have to grow together. And, now it sounds like y’all have grown.. just wish you could’ve saved your marriage. You still could.

[@musiclovetara]

Thank you guys do much for staring your story & your challenges. I love both of you 🙏🏼✨💖✨

[@MissNothing002]

I can’t belive few years ago i watched you two having a lovely dovely pregnancy and made so much funny videos 😢 time flies…

[@rachelkrumpelman5131]

All women's intuition, especially with the ppl they love, is a superpower

[@gemiow]

Just listened to you talking about compliance. PDA is a strong trait in us Autistic / AuDHD folks. We understand things but if it seems like a demand or pointless then we are not likely to play along.

[@theresahorne5135]

I feel like there is still a lot of love between the 2 of you, I’m not convinced you won’t be back together . It’s ok to separate to make things better ❤

[@blacksquirrelhomestead]

I agree!

[@heyItsBillieJo]

22:47 My 19 year old son (🙋🏼‍♀️ super proud mama bear here) is 6ft 4in/14 in men’s shoes and he was a premie. Blonde hair and big blue eyes…. He’s still the jolly green giant 😜 but I will say this…. I never need a ladder 🪜 and I’ve saved money never needing to buy skis! He’s got built in skis lol 😂💜 I truly think you guys are doing amazing co-parenting, which is so rare. I tried to with my son’s…. Not calling him a father he is most definitely just the donor of sperm. I was always respectful and never spoke of the donor in any negative way but kids grow up and see things for themselves. The day he turned 18 he immediately went to the courthouse to file for a surname change. I really enjoyed the episode! 💜

[@tiffanyhaynes520]

People grow and change. You can’t tell how a child will change and grow over the years at 5 years old. Kids on the Spectrum are just like everyone else. They will grow and change developing along the way. Human development happens over a lifetime. And you can’t really base what a kid is gonna be like a 5 years old. Just let them grow and help and support them along the way. And enjoy the ride. Parenting is an amazing experience.

[@malissalafleur2935]

This made my heart happy 🫶🏻🥹

[@helenvincent481]

Personally, I think you two are totally compatible. You both lost yourselves after the birth and diagnosis of Alfie and that brought forward a lot of past resentment that you had stored up and hadn’t worked through. You needed this time apart to rebuild yourselves as individuals. Codependent relationships never work because one loses their identity and the other becomes the ‘parent’ and dominates. This doesn’t mean that you can’t grow from this and come back together. There are no laws…in fact, you know each other so much better now, which means as a future couple you would let things get to the state they were before. ❤

[@breeny162]

I am so grateful for this podcast, im also coming out of a relationship with an asd man and listening to u guys make sense of everything has been so healing, Laura, you are so wise and compassionate, thank you for sharing your lives with us 💚💚

[@condemnedcat1513]

I hate the speculation in these comments. Sending love to you both. ❤

[@betsybabf748]

In general, I do not think you can tell how a child will be throughout schooling when they are only 5 yrs old. While autism was not a factor, my one child who struggled and needed the most services up until 3rd grade is my child who thrived the most in the later years. When younger, he needed so many services, and there was huge academic and social concern. He just graduated high school, being the only student in his class who took 5 AP level classes his senior year. Taking that many advanced level classes are usually not allowed, but he handled it well and graduated with high honors, also being my social butterfly with a huge circle of friends.

[@xtrememe7157]

Love this! Love you guys! Love the topics and how great you all discussed them.

[@mathildebahadourian8477]

Laura you look so beautiful in this video! You’re always glowing 💕

[@anjelicapadilla9881]

😂😂😂 he says hes not dating "focusing on work and the kids"... couldnt be because he got caught manipulating more than one girl at the SAME time. 😂 Stephens a joke!

[@chloewolf9201]

He just wants laura and will never except its over. He wants to be included in everything she does. I don't think he's that different Al at. Laura needs to put up very very firm boundaries imo

[@amandaboyens]

He hadn't healed , so he was bleeding on others

[@amandaboyens]

​@@chloewolf9201Mark my words , they'll get back together. Might take a couple years, but it will happen

[@chloewolf9201]

@amandaboyens7948 yes I don't doubt that at all. It's as if they still are together now . Stephen and his foot! Seriously I saw him run to the door on that foot. They are both extremely co dependent.

[@rachbeth86]

i couldn’t speak until 6 and it was more than a year after that i could finally form sentences and people understand what i was saying.

[@Cutesie-bootsie-cottonkandy]

They still love each other

[@maryanncampbell5681]

I think everyone has good bad and neutral in them. We're all on this planet to learn, love, serve and forgive. Y'all are great parents. I love this podcast!

[@sarnew88]

“You can’t be friends with someone of the opposite sex” “we should talk about being friends with as exes” 🤔

[@CoffeeStainedCanvases]

I get this weird feeling that one day we'll wake up to see that theyve gotten back together again ... She seems very private about her relationship with her current bf like almost like it doesnt exist.. but has so much content with Stephen despite her bf also being a comedian and content creator. I dont want to assume anything but something just doesnt add up 🤷‍♀️

[@CriminalFinds.]

At this point I’m gonna take a wild guess and say he IS the Bf… it really doesn’t add up does it? No normal man would deal with this bollocks

[@CriminalFinds.]

@@evap.5121 I’m not buying this “boyfriend” storyline whatsoever, who in their right mind would deal with all this…

[@lesliewolfe7643]

​@@CriminalFinds. You may just be right. I can't imagine a man that would put up with these 2 making googly eyes at each other in front of millions of people while he stays in the shadows.

[@CriminalFinds.]

@@lesliewolfe7643 he’s never NOT around her. If he’s not physically there, they’re live on tiktok together or posting old videos together like when does the bf get his slot during all this…

[@biancapereira8529]

​@@CriminalFinds.this is exactly what I think too. Also, she speaks as though she doesn't have a partner. And yes, you're 100% right... No guy would accept this!

[@MindOfAnge]

I was married for 15 years before divorcing, the dating scene was crazy!

[@zombbae]

I refuse to go out with someone that won’t go out with me a couple of times before I kiss them. I know I know “big moves” but it’s needed right now.

[@brandonlewismalone986]

I never comment but I'm compelled to say this.... Laura you are a very sincere and a good person... Stephen is so fake and calculated .. Everything that comes out of his mouth is not sincere.that rash on his face is pure stress and anxiety.. . I'm so happy you moved on Laura.

[@karriebender8941]

You two have great communication now. Such a calm, relaxed conversation. It's great and refreshing to see!

[@marleneflanagan7137]

Waiting rooms were my youngest's favorite. Captive audience. She'd talk your ear off.

[@LCP_452]

😂😂 ❤

[@charlie.saturday]

I LOVE this! What a great example for divorced or soon to be divorced with kids ppl. PLUS, we need this example/energy out in the world. As Laura said. There isn't any ex-couples doing this - the energy needs to be put into the atmosphere! ❤❤❤❤

[@hunaseven4676]

Amazing podcast ! Awesome to see you guys getting along so well and discuss as mature adults. Cant wait for the next one ❤

[@kaylabaugus8389]

It’s fine to want a man to chase you because that’s your preference however there’s nothing wrong with others liking it the other way

[@JessicaDarling2]

Quick message to anyone who needs to dispose of any type of drug/medication/supplement - bring them to a Pharmacy and they will dispose of them properly for you(🇨🇦). ❤️

[@wistfulwriter7]

I don’t think it’s a “mistake” or making someone “a villain “ it’s that he has spouted some very harmful ideologies that are coloring all his interactions. I don’t think he’s a bad person but I do think he’s gone down a dark rabbit hole that will affect how he parents and interacts with Laura and the kids. Not my place to judge how Laura navigates all this though. It can’t be easy!

[@lanaadler5786]

also he has not actually apologized properly or made amends. they're spouting this AA stuff, but not following it. amends don't look like this. it's just more "why me" bullshit without accountability.

[@emilyolsen1193]

I love that when he said hes going to be celibate, I laughed at the same time laura did 😂

[@lylafournier-mm5th]

Laura, let him go. Hes abusive, narcissistic. Selfish. You deserve the best.

[@CallMeQueenV]

Seems like you two love spending a lot of time together for getting divorced 😂

[@annme_87]

They're coparents. They need to.

[@CallMeQueenV]

@@annme_87 Lol! I'm divorced and co-parenting with my ex definitely did not include us hanging out with each other almost daily, or ever at all 😆

[@Strudle23]

He still loves her - that’s clear. I love these two together but I don’t think it would work sadly 😢

[@stefanystratton3324]

I don’t think Laura looks “sad” like most of us when we are talking about serious topics/issues we have a complete diff demeanor. If she was smiling thru the serious topics & bursting into laughter then she would be deemed “crazy” I’m sure she’s tired, she has 2 lil kids, going thru a divorce & also working. Momma’s(dads to) can relate!

[@magnoliamoppet1584]

Keep feeding his shit. While he takes digs at you, your choices etc. zero boundaries will get you another DV incident.

[@lauriebieda4498]

It’s called beginning signs of me,me,me only my feelings count,I won’t do it because you asked me too. I won’t stop using drugs because you asked me too. Look at the person you’re talking toooo. Wake up,and make him verbalize,it’s not hurting him it’s helping him. Stop the babying,his becoming a bigger boy,it’s time to move from one stage to the next. Easy!

[@In_time_my_beloved_Kate]

I really enjoyed watching this conversation ❤ the work you’re both doing is inspiring 🙏 and thanks for bringing up the new ‘dating/non dating world’ Laura, I’m finding it insane, like you said, how it’s just pure sex upfront, I have no idea how to navigate it or accept it.

[@claudiajinks]

Stephen does not need to be in AA. Stephen was totes drug seeking at the end of the video… “where are they” Laura heard it… “on that note…” Stephen needs NARCOTICS ANONYMOUS. AA is NOT the right program for him. Alcohol is a drug. NA will cover that need, but Stephen needs a sponsor that knows what it is to be a pillhead. Otherwise, Stephen can step right around an AA sponsor. Subconscious sniffing.. count how many times he does it. NA also has virtual meetings.

[@dr.dreamborntoshine]

Laura u deserve so much more and so much better.

[@wiccidraven]

Love you both. ❤ so many patterns I've been in a huge relationship I've lived through. Full kudos to you to be so open. Love love love ❤️ 😍 💖 ❣️ co parenting is such a "delicate balance " life after divorce to be able to discuss..... you 2 I wish you such joy,love and true to self. Porn addiction can absolutely be devastating. We cannot live up to it all in normal breath. Thank you bewdiful people. Celibate? Lordy lord me! LOL. Bless yr sox L&S xxxxx

[@trishhunter967]

@lauramarieclercy Thank you for this podcast. I am recently divorced with a child as well. I met my ex in AA and we were together 15 years. It’s so refreshing to see this because this is exactly the relationship I have with my ex. We get along great and even talk to each other about our new partners. It blows peoples minds we do this so we’ll. Maybe it’s a sober thing since we have so many tools to handle life and self reflection. Please continue doing this, it’s so needed!

[@SALTY.M.K]

This episode was bloody brilliant guys👏

[@SENSEF]

"Blue-haired people love 🌽 because they don't have $3×." 🤣 Accurate.

[@oshifish2]

I just do not understand why Stephen does not continue writing scores or bits of music for all the connections he had. Did he burn his bridges? I ask because he is so talented. He never spoke of that.

[@Sparkinthedarkness]

He did burn his bridges. He may say he “left” Hans Zimmer but last year he said he was blacklisted because of his extreme views

[@angieo2245]

He actually is doing that. He and Laura were on Tiktok last night discussing it. ❤

[@breadandcirce]

​@@Sparkinthedarkness He was blacklisted because he couldn't stay sober while working for Zimmer

[@Sparkinthedarkness]

@@breadandcircehis literal words were he got blacklisted for his political views. I’m just relaying what he said. Obviously that was a lie

[@DoctorJoanieTool]

I wouldn’t be surprised if no big players want anything to do with him and the hatred he he has been spewing the last two years.

[@teresaanhorn5071]

This was so fun to watch. You two really play off each other so well. So in tune! I hope you continue to do these together. This is how we fell in love with you!

[@madisensullivan1660]

I enjoyed this episode. I totally agree that it’s so frustrating how people take sides and the other can never be redeemed. Or that he shouldn’t be around the children. Tough situation but it seems you both are making the best of it. Sending love and light ❤

[@KnottyLumon]

Women and men are both meant to be polyamorous but most people cannot handle that stress and heartache. So, there is no scientific proof that only the male gender can be polyamorous. It’s weird to even think that men can and women can’t. That’s not a thing.

[@TBLR16]

its not healthy..I don't get you two.. you can co-parent but you need to learn the boundaries between your relationship..easy to manipulate each other

[@CriminalFinds.]

Views! Anything for clicks… 2 weeks ago she was scared and all now they’re besties again 🤣 they’re both full of it, the sympathy I had for her is gone

[@Kitey911]

Love this ❤ so happy you guys are doing well ☺️

[@LauraMarieClery]

❤️❤️❤️

[@happiness4all695]

i love how u both are comfortable with each other .. laura rocks ❤

[@MP24685]

'I think you should dump your boyfriend' Tell me you're not over your ex without telling me you're not over your ex ... 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@susie_q1]

She is definitely codependent and addicted to being so.

[@pattibellifemine10]

💯