Turbo Big Block 8.1 Silverado goes Roll Racing... carnage ensues

[@truckandroll989]

Im excited to check out your channel. Nice meeting you yesterday. Again i love your truck it is super unique! Cant way To see it turned up in the future

[@derekchauvinisahero2010]

Your square was the best truck or car at that event that I saw in this video... except maybe for that maroon fox in the beginning!! Beautiful truck dude!!

[@stubbsshop]

awesome square body man!

[@truckandroll989]

@@derekchauvinisahero2010 thank you 🙏

[@DXFXmc]

Loved the racing!! Win or lose it had to be fun. It was fun watching!!🤓

[@bryandevries7210]

It just gives all of us something to look forward to! Can't wait to see what a built 8.1 can do.

[@nickit22]

It can happen to anyone I will build up one if he doesn’t

[@Mr688895]

Congrats on building a unique vehicle that has now survived a dyno session, spirited street driving and two racing events. That is a huge win in my book.

[@LawrenceTolman]

and we've got more coming up! so far, its held up like a champ... time for that stiffer wastegate spring

[@Mr688895]

@@LawrenceTolman Important thing is have fun with it. The numbers you are making and the fact that it is living and doing well while you are using is testament to build quality and tuning abilities. Especially on a stock engine with stock ring gaps. Building something in stages is a great way to cover everyone's budget and not exclude anyone. Keep up the great work. Always look forward to your videos.

[@concernedviewer2641]

Right after the first run: "I'm going to go ahead a turn it up a little..." lol that's how it happens man.

[@LawrenceTolman]

I know… I’ve been resisting the temptation to turn it up too far, but I’ve got a stiffer spring on the shelf waiting to go in

[@swampratt36]

Smile man , you had fun and nothing broke 🤣👍👍❤️

[@LawrenceTolman]

agreed! it was a lot of fun

[@chillbillywyteboy2095]

Such a humble attitude brother.. Don't have to be the fastest to have the best time.. I haven't even got to the track yet machine shops had my block for over a year just to bore the block and Bob weight balance pistons and rods..

[@crispychevychris]

Can't wait for the video of Ugly Truck becoming manual

[@juliovaldez5468]

I was also listening to what sounded like the transmission shifting too soon. Owning an 8.1 myself, I feel the torque on these engines is just not enough to make up for the lack of horsepower. If you can build it to withstand some more rpm and tune the transmission to suit, I think you will definitely have a better chance.

[@shadowopsairman1583]

@@juliovaldez5468 shift tables can be disabled, a stall converter would need chaging.

[@teaguegearhart9851]

Great episode. Can’t wait til mid week for the next.

[@johnsmith-qz4bv]

well at least you made it through the whole race with nothing catastrophic happening....great video

[@ValarAmstaffs]

Looks like a great time! Thanks for bringing us along!!

[@mattdee9296]

LT good to see ya man

[@gocart09]

What happened to the last minute of the video

[@LawrenceTolman]

an edit glitch, the content was over by then anyhow

[@gocart09]

Hey I just wanna make sure you get paid

[@FortyTwoAnswerToEverything]

that twin turbo f150 at the end of the video. Cheese and rice. Also -- we want to see 20lbs+ of boost on a built engine next year, dude

[@LawrenceTolman]

yup, that F-150 was scooting pretty quick

[@PureCountryof91]

The new coyote f150's are demolishing records..

[@tomboehlke9480]

What is your gut feeling??? would it be faster with less gear than 4.30???? so it would load and pull. i heard a wile ago pro mods were using lockup converters to load turbo's harder and going faster?? by less i mean 3.73 to3.55

[@BDauto86]

It could potentially help to bump down, get alil more out of 1st and 2nd gear.

[@FreddyFunderbunz]

From the looks of it, that Kia Soul probably would’ve got u 😂😂😂😂

[@LawrenceTolman]

You’re probably right lol

[@mikejohns3104]

savage

[@raymondjohnson8522]

thats just not right

[@janetdanner9585]

I have a small garage , you do a great job using your space

[@BdeSimon]

Dammit LT you were right down the road from me and i didnt even know it!!! I couldve met you out there

[@liamjerkins7259]

What carnage? But looked fun!

[@willieshaw2522]

Yeah, what carnage? Looked boring, with a click-bait title . . .

[@nathanhiemstra8228]

I think he means he was the carnage not winning but definitely a lil clickbait

[@bigredracer7848]

first 👍's up LT thanks for taking us all along with you

[@carsonmcallister1472]

Hay Lawrence i have got to ask, where do you hear about all these racing events I have been wanting to go to one for a while. Thanks

[@LawrenceTolman]

most of the local stuff I just hear about from facebook

[@derekchauvinisahero2010]

I wish Facebook wasn’t owned by race baiting globalist rainbow commies , it’s a great place to find out about events and shop for projects, parts etc but I refuse to get on that garbage app ! I hope it goes to the same place MySpace did !

[@dalehall2993]

It was probably you're dirty k&n air filter😂👊🏻

[@LawrenceTolman]

could be...

[@dankostic6708]

nice work Lawrence, keep your chin up and focus on dusting other trucks, im having a blast taking down a bunch of unsuspecting diesels in my area

[@caddydaddy6728]

Yup all good times👍👍

[@nopleaseno2515]

Good content, great editing!

[@LawrenceTolman]

Much appreciated!

[@brianjohnson148]

6:48 I didn’t know Tom Green was racing trucks now! 😄

[@GabeGarberBowling]

LT I have a question I have a 1999 GMC Yukon and the previous owner installed a body lift but I was wondering how hard would it be to remove it yourself

[@Guns_N_Gears]

Easy, unbolt the body mount bolts, lift each location, remove spacer, do this all the way around, check steering shaft as body goes down. Replace bolts that are shorter by the distance of lift taken out. Watch, front and rear bumpers, brake lines on body too.

[@derekchauvinisahero2010]

Body lifts are the worst

[@Techangler65]

All in all not bad you do have a stock motor with only one turbo on 8 lbs boost. It did hold together so a win there

[@truckandroll989]

You would have really enjoyed their first event. About half as many cars and way fewer “supercars”. Hope you can make the next one!

[@sickkid129]

Do you know when the next one is? I’ve got a C10 pretty similar to yours but with an auto and I would love to go to one of these but never hear about them.

[@truckandroll989]

@@sickkid129 i dont think they have announced the date yet but i suspect a few weeks. Check out utah motorsports campus’s website. This was their second event and they appear to be getting more popular

[@jafferm1938]

What happened to the end of the vid? its all black...

[@SurlyMike]

Big block revs FTW.

[@DirtE30]

Lots of fun!

[@pv2smurf]

10:07 they are smoke. why?

[@LawrenceTolman]

i saw that, and I think its due to the PCV system. When I let off quickly at a high RPM there is a ton of manifold vacuum and it sucks up some oil vapors from the crank case

[@pv2smurf]

@@LawrenceTolman just send it "your rig, your call"

[@Kevin_747]

"I'm a bit jealous of these LS guys" And how many times have you done the same thing?

[@LawrenceTolman]

sure, I've done plenty of LS swaps, but I guess the weaker bottom end is the price I pay for wanting to be different. but plans are in the works to address all those shortcomings

[@bowtiebastard6437]

@@LawrenceTolman hey I got an odd duck truck 02 2500HD LQ4 motor, NV4500 trans, unknown manual transfer case, 14 bolt G80 rear with 4.10, single cab cloth 40/20/40 seat with single heated seat LS trim level

[@stubbsshop]

@@bowtiebastard6437 you would have a NP261 transfer case

[@BDauto86]

@@bowtiebastard6437 that's a solid setup. Throw a healthy cam, springs, rocker upgrade and long tubes with a tune you would have a good running truck that's reliable.

[@bowtiebastard6437]

@@BDauto86 im mote concerned with fixing my steering suspension and rust first i fell through the cab

[@6.SlowSilverado]

I was expecting ugly to beat the C10 it was slower than i expected but love the content keep it up not trying to be a hater

[@LawrenceTolman]

I was kinda hoping I’d beat the c-10 as well…

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

Can you explain what it is about the 8.1L that makes it so fragile?

[@PureCountryof91]

Big, cheap parts. Cast pistons, rods, possibly a forged crank. In general, spinning up a big block without some good stout parts things will exit fr the block.

[@chrislangdell117]

Needs a Stick for roll racing. Or a fully manual 4l80E.

[@inspireonex]

Why does it go black at the end?

[@LawrenceTolman]

the video was done at that point, just an edit glitch I think should be fixed now

[@jeffboyer8214]

Something happened to the end of your video. Good footage over all. Yes the ls does have an advantage. Don't give up on being different. Be safe.

[@opryl]

When I saw "carnage," that wasn't what I had in mind...

[@adubbelde1]

I'm putting an LT1/L83 in my 37 chev pu. IN stock form the truck weighed 3700. The engine alone weighs more than the LT1 and 6L80E so I should be less than 3700 . It's rated at 355 in stock form and I'll not be putting Cats on it and it will have dual exhaust. How do you think it would perform against some of these?

[@mortensandmoen5208]

Howe much will the gearbox take?

[@LawrenceTolman]

its been holding up great so far, but that has been in the back of my mind a lot lately

[@mortensandmoen5208]

@@LawrenceTolman Do you know howe much torque it can take, and what you have to do to make it take some more?

[@marvmiller1708]

Hi LT. nice vid. Hey I've just purchased a 90 gmc k1500 4x4 ext cab long box. Decent shape. I want to put a 454 with a 4l80e in it, take out all the electronics and use a sniper efi. My question is what modifications will I have to make to beef up the frame/crossmembers to get this done?

[@LawrenceTolman]

nothing really, I put a TBI 454 into my K1500 some years ago, and it bols right into place. You might have to slide the trans crossmember back a little and drill some holes, but thats about it. Oh, and you will likely need a bigger radiator and shroud as well...

[@artdecon4567]

Man! Somebody was out having fun!

[@LawrenceTolman]

yeah, it was a blast

[@jondoucette4103]

Did you need to use a 2wd 8.1/4L80 or can you delete the transfer case later?

[@LawrenceTolman]

a 2wd 80e would be easier to start with if you are doing a 2wd truck.

[@raytrusty7761]

What kind of racing is this? No dead start? No lights? I guess I’m old. I have old school 454 79 short GMC. And yes I am old, 74. Good job LT love your show

[@mcfero1]

Must be deaf as well. He said in the video. It is roll racing. All the new young and hip kids are doing it. No jumping coke cans for you with your 3/4 rv cam.

[@AlexBuiltIt]

Will you be at Utah truck invasion next weekend at umc?

[@LawrenceTolman]

I am considering it

[@shadowopsairman1583]

Richard Holdener ran 454/496 up around 1000 hp on sbe.

[@joeroe2839]

Ive missed all your videos man, youtube sucks at notifying me 😡

[@ralphhaldermanjr5926]

Hey bro how mad were you really went Austin broke the 65 C10

[@artysmotorsports]

The little square body that could... That thing is awesome 👌

[@LawrenceTolman]

That was an awesome truck

[@truckandroll989]

Thanks man! Its my ‘81 C10 and that was my second event. Had a blast !

[@Averagegunenthusiast]

That square body had a huge weight advantage

[@hongmihnhahn7081]

Square body is more heavy than this truck

[@Averagegunenthusiast]

@@hongmihnhahn7081 I’m not so sure about that, his body style is heavier in the same configuration, he also has an extended cab vs the square body’s standard cab. The square body also has nothing for a pillars, no air bags, abs, or anything else and I think the frame is heavier duty in the late model vs the square body.

[@hongmihnhahn7081]

@@Averagegunenthusiast your guess seems to be more right than my merely thinking . thans

[@RobertKohut]

Nice!! Well you made it home...:-)

[@jasonehredt968]

It seemed so fast all alone on a back road......

[@gregg3364]

Should've turned on tow/ haul for longer run in lower gear

[@LawrenceTolman]

I've got the shift points set exactly where I want em with the tune...

[@johnritt]

Better luck next year

[@LawrenceTolman]

thanks!

[@jeffreyriggs1911]

Hah nicr...just got my 8.1L running in my 78 k20... more to do before I hit the road....future plans...double turbos..

[@Silkmaster4200]

I would keep the same axle 4.30 gears. Just better wide wheels and tires for the base and add whole a lot power built.

[@alexescarcega5151]

Maybe a tonneau cover for ugly truck?👀

[@casualobserver1663]

Love the guy with the c10 saying I think it's 30 over lol it's probably a 500 + incher , also i think your rear gear is a tad too low for that type of race

[@BZach360]

There’s a bunch of videos on the C10 if you’re interested. KZbin channel is TruckandRoll 👍🏼

[@UPsideDOWNworld321]

WHAT gears do you have on that you need 4.10 to 5.40 if you ask me to get it moving faster, i put 4.12 gears on my truck all stock but it feels like i boosted it

[@UPsideDOWNworld321]

@@basstech714 oh shit your right I remember that now damn maybe go with5gear then seems to bah when on full gas

[@TanCalHan]

Big turbo you don’t want huge gears. If anything 3.73’s would help him spool up and haul

[@UPsideDOWNworld321]

@@TanCalHan he is running 7psi he needs new gear to go faster with setup if and when he rebuilds engine then go back 3.7 is stock if I remember correctly

[@shadowopsairman1583]

Since he is using a 4L80 he needs the bigger rear end, 6L90, 8L90, 10L90 you can run smaller.

[@UPsideDOWNworld321]

@@shadowopsairman1583 i am only judging by what i heard the engine doing at full go,, sounded like it was not happy , thats why i said bigger gear but airman1 came in like a BOSS teaching us kidos whats up :P thanks for the info bro

[@simentalg]

From what I saw the 3 coolest cars where those two Cobras that red one and the blue one and ugly truck 👍

[@mikejohns3104]

Welp, I'm not building an 8.1 turbo. Scratch that one off the list.

[@77chevy4x4]

That’s the problem. My end mark vi is boat rpms all day . Damn th400 shattered like the liberty bell ... ford9” n case 31s mosers have no problem handling the power.

[@jamesaustin4044]

Narrator: It was at this point that Lawrence realized what "heavy b*tch" means.

[@importcars03]

Let’s see a collaboration with Richard Holdener or Sloppy Mechanics and see this stock motor turned up. They both have a lot of experience taking stock engines further than they should go. I mean why not push it since you have a built engine planned. Hero or Zero will make for good content either way! Love your builds.

[@BubaJ1000]

I was expecting the crank to snap.

[@1000machz]

Dude cmon, you don’t need clickbait

[@rickboretirementplan]

With good fuel and some ring gap 28-30 I would put more timing in it and let it eat.

[@tylerparker3024]

Seems like that truck should be way faster than it is

[@LawrenceTolman]

I agree…

[@stevenk805]

You keep saying the 8.1l is weak/fragile, but that’s definitely subjective. In stock form it passed the “marine dock” test which is 300hrs at WO throttle and 1000hrs at WO throttle in a truck. Not that many engines pass that test according to the internet 🤷‍♂️. So it’s REALLY stout; however, with a power adder it’s “weak” I suppose, lol

[@LawrenceTolman]

yes, subjective for sure. at a stock power level I have no doubts an 8.1 could go on forever, but I've seen a ton of piston failures with only a little added power, and at the wheels, I'm +180hp and +191tq over what the stock engine puts out (measured both NA and Turbo on the chassis dyno for an accurate comparison).

[@edwardmyers1746]

HMMM COBRA WHINES !!! what rear end ratio you got? sounds like your not getting all that much revs, almost like climbin a hill

[@LawrenceTolman]

its got 4.30's in it...

[@joshc1590]

you gotta bring that bad boy over to PFI for a tune

[@miketee2444]

There's no replacement for displacement... So they say. The organizers should really try and put some kind of effort into pairing like vehicles.

[@LawrenceTolman]

yeah, it was just kind of luck of the draw with who you lined up against, unless you found someone before hand and lined up together.

[@TBGaels32]

Instead of dumping money in a built 8.1, It would be cool to see a LS 427 on the same kind of boost with a stick.

[@thatbuelldude189]

What carnage?

[@davidpeterson6147]

I didn't see any either

[@Randomgearhead]

His pride...?

[@adammealey6721]

Only carnage I saw, was the minute and 10 seconds of added blank screen at the end of the video.

[@LawrenceTolman]

exactly!

[@erikrunas226]

I'd like to see you run against Emily from Flying Sparks Garage. Roxy can boogie.

[@michaelbrown5601]

No carnage, just a ton of fun!

[@ethancooper1127]

Should of brought project white noise

[@TheOzarkWizard]

Build it and turn it up to 11. Also plz tune it for gas mileage too, I believe they can do better with a turbo

[@superduty4556]

Why are they so weak?

[@lomfmur]

Supposedly the pistons cant handle that much more than stock hp numbers. If you google it though according to GM the 8.1 can handle something like 500-550hp and 690 torque

[@wesleyrolls1550]

I saw one race that was with more money than the rest of the cars there put together... It would’ve been funny if you beat one of the Bugatti’s in that roll style racing before they get into their top end lol

[@Yomamalony]

You can see the sad through his eyes

[@LawrenceTolman]

i went in the corner and cried a little

[@richardharvey8939]

Only carnage I saw was to that power strokes ego. He had a lot more $ in that one than you. Bow tie for the win.

[@cool62chev]

I would be willing to bet those other folks have a lot more money in their cars than you do in the UT!

[@LawrenceTolman]

you're probably right... some high dollar builds there for sure

[@Brykk]

Welcome to the 8.1 disappointment gang

[@aaronlancaster195]

Even though it may have junk heads, underneath an 8.1 is still a big block Chevy. It will take 1000 just fine. Send it.

[@bigredracer7848]

please take the 4:30 gears out of the differential because that's you're losing with those in a roll race

[@bigredracer7848]

3100 is all used up with them 430 gears and what you're doing unless you're releasing 1/ 8 Mile you should never have 430 gears

[@GIGABACHI]

It's 2021. People still bother manually shifting a "modern" automatic transmission ? ! Why ? ! Put it in D and let it work, you should be having fun, not worrying about shifting gears for a PCM/TCM. 🙄🤦‍♂️

[@LawrenceTolman]

Perhaps, but by manually selecting 2nd on the shifter, I’m at the perfect RPM to take off at 40mph when I cross the start line. Otherwise, it would’ve been in 4th gear when I crossed the start line and then would have wasted a few moments downshifting and then getting the turbo spooled up…

[@GIGABACHI]

@@LawrenceTolman Eh, ok, you make good points.👌🙂

[@TTTTTTTTztttttttt]

"carnage ensues"??? You click-baited us! I can't believe it! lol

[@LawrenceTolman]

yeah, a little... sorry!

[@TTTTTTTTztttttttt]

@@LawrenceTolman No problem. Still a fan n love the content.

[@grngs1]

I was waiting for rods to exit, yeah LS's arent all that, that brown 454 whooped you, prolly whoop an LS too!

[@carltrano1325]

It’s only takes money 💰 to go fast.

[@LawrenceTolman]

yup, and lots of it

[@Upracefan]

430 gear is way too tall for that

[@Guns_N_Gears]

It's all about powerband, where is the Engine "happy" ? Find out where that is, and improve from there kids!!

[@LawrenceTolman]

we're definitely a little higher in the RPM range than where the peak numbers are made, especially torque

[@Guns_N_Gears]

@@LawrenceTolman makes sense. Maybe try a taller tire, that's an "easy" gear change!!

[@jameshall4385]

You almost had me? You never had me - you never had your car... Granny shiftin' not double clutchin' like you should. You're lucky that hundred shot of NOS didn't blow the welds on the intake!

[@hongmihnhahn7081]

Why even old c10 is more faster than this 8.1 big engine? Actually c10 is more heavy weight and 454 stroke is old engine.....

[@HappyHarryHardon]

Wow. You beat a diesel with a turbo big block. Build an LS.

[@LawrenceTolman]

yeah, but that would be too easy

[@kb3yourmom912]

12th !!!

[@karlsracing8422]

Ls blow up too.

[@LawrenceTolman]

any engine can blow up if you're not careful. granted, an LS does have a lot more margin for error...

[@codyzellner]

I have to give you props, you could have totally just not posted the footage. Takes some courage to post yourself getting dusted in your project.

[@LawrenceTolman]

i see no reason to hide what happened, it was a fun time, and its a good baseline the way I see it... we can only get better from here

[@codyzellner]

@@LawrenceTolman that attitude is what keeps me coming back!