Lawyers, what is the strangest law that's won a case for you?

[@Nyghtking]

I remember a story where a guy got out of a ticket because, while the officer meant to write "driver wasn't wearing their seatbelt", he actually wrote "driver was wearing their seatbelt. When he went to court for it as you usually do, he told the judge that due to how the ticket was written he was being accused of wearing a seatbelt and would like to plead guilty, and since wearing a seatbelt both isn't a crime and is what you're supposed to be doing while driving the judge laughed but let him go without having to pay.

[@Qualicabyss]

I plead guilty to being awesome 😎 Judge: Sir, you burned down an orphanage.

[@fullmoonshadow6967]

@@Qualicabyss "But it was abandoned, and I did the removal company a favour by clearing the rotten wood for them."

[@CasualVFlowerEnjoyer]

This narator is the best, and that being said, he deserves breaks and sick time! So we shouldn't flip out if someone else covers for him for a bit. He has a life outside of us and this channel and nobody wants to work a job that gives no time off, y'know? The other narator did a good job, even if he isn't the og.

[@dogouchu4356]

But the other guy they use sucks.

[@Kylel0519]

@@dogouchu4356the really sparked Narrator is really good though

[@ResidentMilf]

​@@dogouchu4356Does he? Or are you judging him unfairly because he's not the voice you expect?

[@CasualVFlowerEnjoyer]

@@ResidentMilf I feel like that's the majority of what's going on here. Its not who they thought it would be, so automatically they are bad. Everyone said the same about the ReallySparked narator when he covered here, that he sucked, and yet he is beloved over there? Doesn't make sense. I have ADHD and bipolar and hate change with a passion, but a different narator isn't going to make me have a hissyfit lol

[@AnOmoriFanatic]

Frfr

[@onionbubs386]

One of the many things I love about this channel is how they give us new content instead of the same years old stories we've already heard dozens of times.

[@blackgemstone801]

Heard the dumpster story a few times over the years, but it's the first time I heard OS did it. No fault, love them

[@fiascothe63rd]

I agree, it's nice to finally get some fresh, curated insanity in the mix with all the dusty old threads being read ad nauseum by mediocre text-to-speech programs

[@stevenmcglinn5954]

My former employer got a ticket for doing 100 in a 40 school zone. School zones only apply just before school days. The charge was based on a speed camera which produced a date which was on the weekend. Charged dropped.

[@dinglerofl4784]

my dad once got out of a parking ticket because the cop had a brainfart and wrote may instead of march, placing the infraction 2 months in the future

[@MorganChaos]

I had a friend who got a ticket while wearing heavy makeup to go clubbing. She showed up to court barefaced and the officer didn't recognize her, so the case was dismissed lmfao.

[@teucer915]

Not a legal thing, but I once was checked into the hospital for a heat injury and that hospital's protocol for making sure the treatment team had the right patient, rather wisely, involved taking a photo of the patient on admission. Well it happens that at the time of the injury I was cosplaying as the Joker and in full makeup. Every single person who comes in has to see that photo and since by hour one I've been allowed to wash my face, everybody has to show me the damn joker photo and ask if it's me.

[@Ss123brolly1]

​@@teucer915hahahaha

[@jonmendelson1104]

27:47 My brother spent a bit over a day in jail because of a clerical error. He was caught having a beer when he was 20 and was sentenced to 20 hours of community service for minor in possession. A few years later a bouncer tried to confiscate his ID because he didn't believe it was my brother so my brother contacted the non-emergency police line. The cop came out, asked my brother a few questions, then arrested him. It turns out the county where he did the community service recorded it as 2.5 days (8 hour work day) of community service and somewhere in the transfer of information to the county where he got in trouble it became 2.5 hours, so there was a warrant out for his arrest. He'd never received any notification that there was any issue or that there was a warrant so he didn't know to resolve it until it became an issue for him.

[@Chipster321]

Did it get resolved quickly?! It didn’t stay on his record did it???

[@jonmendelson1104]

@@Chipster321 It was technically expunged but he worked as a teacher for awhile and I guess working with kids/technically for the government things that are expunged still come up on background checks. He didn't have issues finding jobs as a teacher though, they'd ask him about the situation and he explained it apparently well enough for them to be satisfied.

[@mnparker3421]

It's a blessing that it was resolved as readily as that. Jails can be extremely dangerous and the threats of death and severe harm are on both sides of the bars.

[@HiltownJoe]

One really important point about the supermacs case was forgotten. Supermacs existst in Ireland since 1978. That means the case was frivolous from the get go. So the judges had really no incentive to be nice to Mc Donalds lawyers. Proving they had owned the Trademark would not have them won the case, but might have saved their Trademark.

[@autobotjazz1972]

I suspect in the Mcdonald's big mac fumble the lawyers assumed the business they were suing would roll over and settle and when that did not happen they had no clue how to proceed as they likely never had to take that type of matter to court in the EU before and utterly blew it.

[@marckempe2143]

That wasn’t th only fumble McDonald’s made in court, look up the court case on how an old woman sued McDonald’s for third degree burns on her legs and genitalia. She didn’t even want to go to court, but since McDonald’s refused to take accountability for their negligence and pay for her medical expenses, she didn’t have a choice. Look up Adam Ruins Everything, the real story behind the McDonald’s coffee lawsuit.

[@ProtozoasPizzarea]

WE GOT THE OLD NARRATOR WHOOO 🎉

[@cheese6991]

Yippee!

[@rennoc6478]

Best narrator

[@isskolam2767]

Am I the only person who liked the other narrator too ? I found his commentary hilarious. Don't get me wrong this guy is my favorite KZbin narrator of all time and god bless his voice, but I can't believe you guys didn't like the other one to the point where they had to delete the video!!

[@pikabolt5196]

Yeah, that poor guy didn’t deserve that

[@isskolam2767]

@@pikabolt5196 I just read the comments on this video, can't imagine what the other ones are. I wonder how he feels like, I sure hope they didn't bully him did they ?

[@FFKonoko]

​@@isskolam2767you read the comments bullying him but hope they didn't bully him? 😅

[@isskolam2767]

@@FFKonoko The ones on this video are mostly happy the OG narrator is back. I'm asking about the ones in the other video they had to remove.

[@andacondanation1933]

Story 5 is so wholesome. That’s awesome the cop did that for OP

[@lightning_11]

It's sad that the news only covers when cops mess up. That guy sounds like a true W, he deserves some respect.

[@denkisupremacy]

​@@lightning_11 so true; I recently watched some police bodycam videos on KZbin, which are amazing, and show the bravery of actually good and helpful officers going into dangerous situations and dealing perfectly with the perpetrators. The negativity of the media does make you forget that really, most officers would want to help, not hurt. Though many bad ones exist, of course.

[@unnaturalredhead1559]

I have a story about my grandfather- it’s less of a legal loophole and more just being a little bit of a shit in court. He got a ticket for speeding- can’t remember the exact numbers- but decided he was going to contest it. He showed up in court, and found they were basically doing all the tickets for that one officer today. He got his place in line and was watching the other cases, and noticed that this officer had a line he liked to use- “I clocked them doing [x] in a [y] and could tell they were accelerating from the Doppler effect.” So when it’s my grandfathers turn, the cop gives the same line, and my grandfather goes up to the stand and says “well, sir, I’m a physics professor at [nearby university] (note: this was true, he was) and I was wondering if you could explain to me how you can measure acceleration using the Doppler effect.” The judge dismissed the ticket then and there. The best part is that you *can* measure acceleration from the Doppler effect, but he phrased it in a way that clearly implied that you couldn’t, and the judge decided that he had better things to do with his time than listen to this cop fumble a physics explanation. Possibly one of my favorite stories about that grandfather.

[@lordpumpkinhead265]

I swear I've heard something similar to this before.

[@samkadel8185]

You can measure it using the doppler effect, but is it actually reasonably possible to detect it using the human ear with a regular car?

[@unnaturalredhead1559]

@@samkadel8185 I’m not actually sure- you probably can intuit positive versus negative acceleration, but I’m not sure how well you can actually measure it.

[@IsaacDoctorKleiner]

I love how we all collectively rebel when the narrator gets changed.

[@NijutheWolf]

Real

[@Lilli_Loves_Bondi]

We love this man

[@LycaFurs]

This dude is simply the sweetest and the best narrator voice

[@bird2045]

I don’t hate them, it is just weird when he talks after every story, like it makes the story more serious or scary. If comedy then fine.

[@BIGGER_RED]

One of my biggest pet peeves is when some comments “we” as in speaking for everyone but I think in this case it was needed. Well said

[@DubYuhGChoppa]

When I started watching your channel the videos were around 15 minutes and you're already up to an HOUR while still going daily. That's crazy

[@Kurone2231]

As someone living in Ontario I can't believe I never heard about that law

[@shendisackett]

I mean surely banning Martians from suing is discrimination 😂😂

[@coldacid]

It makes me wish I had paid more attention to the news back when I was in high school. I would have gotten some real mileage out of it with at least some of my classmates.

[@squiddwizzard8850]

It's not a law, it's a court decision.

[@justinwhite2725]

35:55 the day JFK was assassinated my mom was in court (before i was born) because she had absentmindedly walked out of JC Penny with some dresses. The court filing had listed the name of the company as 'JC Penny'. The judge looked at the prosecution and said 'Do you not know whom you work for? The legal name os JC Penny INC.' and he dismissed the case.

[@Franimus]

Isn't it JC Penney's

[@FFKonoko]

​​@@Franimus no, it's JC Penney INC, everyone got it wrong 😂

[@justinwhite2725]

@@FFKonoko oh nice, I had no idea there was a second e. We don't have them in Canada (my mother is from the US but I was born here and I've never seen this company except mentioned online). Anyway, this is the story my mother told to the old meme of 'Where were you when JFK was assassinated' but it was relevant here.

[@Chipster321]

I just have to say this because I think it was funny. I misread the first sentence as “the day JFK assassinated my mom in court”

[@NijutheWolf]

H e h a s r e t u r n e d But seriously, we need to appreciate every narrator.

[@Fade_NB]

Real

[@LycaFurs]

Agreed, any narrator is good if this dude needs or wants a break :3 he works hard, he deserves breaks. But he will Forever and always be the best 💪

[@NijutheWolf]

@@LycaFurs frfr

[@dogouchu4356]

🥺but we like dis one

[@emeraldsforever3999]

@@dogouchu4356is really that hard to be respectful?

[@maryscott9430]

When i lived in hawaii it would common for us to put blow up swimming pools in the beds of trucks, gill them with water( sometimes ice if ut was hot out) and wed ride in the pool wherever we needed to go. Since its hawaii bathing suits are acceptable in all stores so being wet was no issue.

[@Fairiegurl101]

Glad to see (hear?) you're back. Not quite on topic as I haven't won anything yet, but one of the things I've learned about the law is that order is *everything* . Do something out of order and your case might as well be that titanic sub because it will implode on you. Even if it should be airtight and open and shut. It can get so tedious, but when the other option is getting a tongue lashing from the judge and a bunch of wasted money, you do things in the correct way. That's why these drunk driving type cases get thrown out because if they were to be prosecuted, it would open the cops up to being able to do basically anything they wanted *so long as a criminal was apprehended* and THAT is a terrible thing to give to a cop. We already have so many issues with police acting out of line, giving them another legal avenue for that is way too dangerous. Like, we already have stories of cops planting evidence after having probable cause, we don't need them to be able to do that without probable cause, too.

[@tessiepinkman]

I'm starting to become really fond of this channel. As I live in Norway, there's always a new video when I wake up early in the morning, and it's become my daily routine to start the day with some coffee/tea and your newest video. I have watched *all* of your videos, as I started binging them when I first found this channel, so I'm always looking forward to the new video while I'm chillin' on my sofa in the morning. It's the best start of the day! Keep it up! You're doing a great job, and I really appreciate the time it must take to record these 1 hour long videos. You're doing great! Much love from me :)

[@georgem7965]

Rule Against Perpetuties. This means that you can't restrict the use of a piece of a property forever. You can do it for a set period of time but not forever. Have used it in several land use cases.

[@toddoverholt4556]

That first case, you just know that the creator of Big Apple maps got screwed over in one of these cases and is doing everything they can to keep other people from being screwed over like they did

[@AsobiMedio]

Doing god's work right there. Soveirgn immunity is bullshit so anything and anyone that works to bypass it wherever possible is a stand up person in my book.

[@firedogman2280]

It was actually made by a bunch of lawyers with the intent to fuck over nyc in the first place lmao, it became redundant when nyc law changed to make the person adjacent responsible

[@retr0robbin]

As an Australian Robo debt no longer exists. It was a whole scandal

[@IsYitzach]

Story 49: The jury was told not to do a reenactment because that is not part of the evidence presented in court. It doesn't matter if it is a good idea. It isn't evidence. If the defense wanted the reenactment to be part of the evidence, they would have had to do that in court.

[@joelproko]

Also probably a gun safety issue.

[@horseluver4ever623]

0:32 "the goverment can't be sued without its consent" Oh I bet that doesn't get abused at all 🙄

[@danielchan1668]

2:20 Five whole minutes?! "Dead red laws" (if an automated light system does not detect a motorcycle or occasionally a bicycle, resulting in extended periods of the red light being shown, in some US states the motorist is allowed to proceed provided the intended path is clear of other turning vehicles and pedestrians) should be more common

[@RothAnim]

That was my understanding too. When a traffic light is non-functional, it should be treated as a 4-way "Stop" sign.

[@conberate]

@@RothAnim Most of the time traffic lights have a fail-over 'non-functional' that displays blinking red lights in every direction or just no lights at all, both of which are generally written into the MV code to treat as a stop. The problem is when one way has green and the other red, but it doesn't change.

[@rayhatesu]

Unfortunately, there are places that don't want to do that. I know an intersection near where I live that is set up to go red for the side road unless it can stop someone on the main road. I ended up waiting 12 minutes to cross that road at 3AM about 11 years ago due to that (leaving early in the morning for a long drive).

[@gogameing5657]

3:53 In the future I very much think this is going to be disputed because the fact that technically speaking if we have people living on Mars they will be martians but well if you decades before that

[@andyandroid5345]

Or if people are born on mars and travel back to earth

[@oniris3326]

But... a human being born on Mars doesn't make them not a human.

[@pingidjit]

I was given a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt. I had been wearing it all day long and for just a brief moment had it off when I got pulled over. I gather all my evidence: how seatbelts were designed to only protect 200 lb men (of which I am not), how car companies have zero regulation over belt length/placement/etc, how public transit do not require seatbelt usage, and more. Basically how having the seatbelt law as written is sexist, not equal in its requirements, and unregulated in its safety standards, therefore unlawful. The week before I go to court, my area passes a law requiring seatbelt usage in taxis for all occupants. I show this to the cop pre-trial. He tells me he will agree to a lower fine. I debate in my head a moment, then hold up my pile of other evidence and say, no. I will not plead guilty to something unlawful that until last week wasn't even required by taxis the same size/shape/weight/safety of the vehicle I was driving. He grumbles but agrees. We go into court, and my ticket and fine were dropped. I almost wanted to fight it though, because that law is STILL unlawful, sexist, unregulated and un equal. One day I want to take it on, if only to make car manufacturers actually have to implement seatbelts that save lives of more than just 200lb men.

[@sheyennemerritt3215]

Not to mention they don't always save lives five people die in a fire truck crash one person lives in the person who lived one through the windshield sometimes being in the car is more dangerous than being out of the car even if you're thrown the fire truck squished the five men --Plymouth Indiana 1982

[@metarcee2483]

I want to sue an American government organization because I'm a Martian in Canada! WHAT.

[@squiddwizzard8850]

Schizophrenia is a hell of a drug. And I say that with compassion, my grandpa was schizophrenic and I have bipolar.

[@elephantheart9988]

I got caught shoplifting the day after, tried to pay for it which they refused, they pressed charges for theft. The free lawyer got it reduced to attempted theft since I tried to pay.

[@roselover411]

That poor guy's cat. I hope things improve and he gets his cat back.

[@BigBing1987]

Story 5 i like how the cop specifically told him go to court and fight it knowing that all OP had to do was appear and it would likely be thrown out for the clerical error. He had to write the ticket, but he didnt have to make it enforceable, since it seems by the way story is told he understood OP was in a tight spot, and could use a little bit of a break.

[@PsRohrbaugh]

FYI a blanket ban on bail for murder would be unconstitutional, and would require an ammendment. The constitution guarantees you to right to bail which is not excessive. So the courts MUST look at the specifics of each case and decide whether bail is appropriate, and if so, for how much. Remember, you're innocent until proven guilty - so even for a crime like murder, if there's not a lot of evidence, no criminal record, low flight risk - denying bail would be constitutionally unreasonable.

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

The Constitution is toilet paper

[@BlessingKnTproducti]

i love how you can tell the people who didn’t technically break the law but disobeyed the spirit of the law doing something actually dangerous got off scot-free but with the intent to do better because of their brushes with law enforcement. sometimes people just need to be “scared straight,” not penalized.

[@happyeevee4955]

watching the car breaking every known traffic law in the background is oddly calming

[@jdlech]

In Heien V. North Carolina, the SCOTUS ended that policy @5:57. The SCOTUS decided that, while an officer must be correct about the facts (there being 6 passengers in the vehicle), the officer does not have to be correct about the law. Thus, there not being a law against excessive passengers no longer invalidates the premise for the stop. And thus, all subsequent charges (like drunk driving) are still valid. It means a cop can pull you over for having two rear tires, then arresting you for drugs or alcohol. In court, the officer needs only testify that he honestly thought there was a law against having two rear tires. Totally ridiculous? Sure. But what judge is going to tell a cop he's lying on the witness stand? Very few, indeed. The officer need only be right that you had two rear tires, not one, not four, exactly two. And all subsequent charges are valid. And you can thank the SCOTUS for Heien V. North Carolina. It's now the law of the land in the ENTIRE country.

[@jdlech]

Much unlike the sovereign citizen who tried to argue that he had a 1st amendment right to free speech in a Saskatchewan provincial court.

[@ihspstanktribe]

The seat belt story about Hawaii reminds me of when I was a kid. Summer baseball season, when we'd win the coach's would buy us ice cream. 90% of our games were played on one ball field and the ice cream place was maybe a little more than a 1\4 mile down the road. Dad would load team in the back of his truck and haul us to the shop. He got pulled over twice, first time warning, third time a small ticket, cop said 3rd time would be more serious. I forget if it was jail time, charges, towing the vehicle or what. *Shrugs* I was 9. So! My dad built a bench seat to fit around the 3 sides of the bed, anchored it to the truck's frame and installed seat belts enough for the team plus some. Next time he got pulled over(cop thinking it was going to be the same issue) no fines, no tickets. Nothing they could do.

[@Kalenz1234]

You are not driving a horse, you are riding a horse. I'd say as long as the horse wasn't drunk he should be fine.

[@TDarcos]

_"Error Coram Noblis"_ is pronounced AIR-OR CORE-AM NO-BLISS, in short, you got the pronunciation exactly right!

[@Jivvi]

Not sure where story 12 happened, but all of those rules and definitions sound very much like the ones we have in Australia, and that truck sounds like it was a combination with two trailers, which would automatically be considered a heavy vehicle, regardless of the weight. That's probably why the why the weight wasn't recorded; for that truck, it didn't need to be.

[@LavenderSystem69]

Honestly, my gut says it was likely in Canada. The legal bits sound exactly like all the shit I ended up memorizing once I started crossing that border regularly... and that particular fuckup has CVSE's grubby little fingerprints all over it

[@Dragongaga]

that thing about driver vs keeper of a car, we have that too in Austria. If you commit an "administrative offense" like speeding slightly (there's a defined limit) you get what's called an "anonymous order" in the post, which is a non-contestable fine. If you pay it within three weeks, the case is closed. That's so companies can relay the fine to the employee and they can pay it off without too much hassle. If you don't pay, the anonymous order turns into a charge and you receive a second letter with a "Driver inquiry" in which the police asks you, as the registration owner, to disclose the identity of the driver so they can charge them. This also happens for major traffic violations, like running a red light or blocking emergency services, if you weren't already stopped by police at the time. That inquiry can be contested, for example you can ask to see the evidence or testimony of the witness, but if you can't successfully contest the charge, you pay an additional administrative fee. In any case, if you fail to provide a name or there's reasonable doubt, you are liable as the registration owner and it goes into your history, so there's no loophole

[@3RAN7ON]

Story 10 is crazy, like that drunk guy knew of that obscure law and it was malicious compliance 😂

[@stevedavis5704]

I worked with a guy who got a speeding ticket for fifteen miles an hour over the limit. He went to court and asked for a continuance. It was granted new date set. Went back, did it again. The judge told him that the next time he had to be prepared for trial or take care of the case before. He came in the third time and asked to speak to the judge. The judge tells him to come forward and say his piece. He steps up and says “I want to plead guilty your honor.” The judge says since it’s trial time he can’t do that unless it’s ok with the officer who issued the ticket. They go to ask him about it and it turns out that the officer isn’t there. The judge says that the state isn’t prepared for court and dismissed the case. Before the he left the judge asked him if he was going to plead guilty why get the three delays to which he replied “Because I could.”

[@Thebigpiigg]

YAY HES BACK

[@shawnpawlowski1436]

That fire lane story was absolutely amazing

[@2102082]

I had to run a red light once. Was sitting at the red for just over 3 full songs, somewhere around 7-10 minutes. Ran the red since it was about 1 am, no other cars on the road anywhere in sight. Ran the red, drove by the cop in a nearby parking lot watching the whole time to give him a wave and head home.

[@darthhauler9947]

Story 22: just went through this with an old credit card debt from Best Buy. I paid the collection agency off 8 years ago but they never sent me any confirmation of that. Two weeks ago, a lawyer group called and threatened to take me to court for non-payment. Luckily for me I still had my records and told the lawyer exactly when I paid it off and to whom. Haven't heard back from them yet and I'm setting those receipts aside so I can keep this from happening again.

[@prman9984]

The reason you can't re enact the gun situation is that all evidence should have been presented in court, not secretly in the jury chamber. Not saying i disagree, but that's the reasoning.

[@wayneledzian5342]

I also gor a ticket for going through a non-changing red light. I argued the clause that directs drivers to tread a malfunctioning light as an all-way stop, ticket dismissed.

[@parthon]

God, the DUI one annoys me because the breathalyser measures alcohol in the lungs, that's why you have to keep breathing for so long. A big gulp of wiskey could increase the reading, but not enough to go from under to "way over" As for "he was sober until he took the swig", no sorry, it takes at least a couple of minutes for alcohol to be metabolised into the blood stream after being consumed. He was driving impaired before he was pulled over. Shaking my head that a prosecutor should know this.

[@IronPhysik]

thats why when in doubt a blood test would be the next step at least here in germany

[@peppolo92]

It's so fun hearing so many words that I can't understand and yet understanding those stories

[@malachihart7370]

Idk why but youtube won't let me comment a new comment thread 😕 But since your comment is loosely related to mine hawking county is spell wrong And also pronounced wrong It's haa-kuhng and spelled hocking county

[@Fade_NB]

I love the new trend of long videos

[@LavenderSystem69]

Was doing an L.A.-Seattle run I'd done a thousand times, running the middle lane up a section of road immediately prior to the right lane ending. Little hotshot pickup swings on into my lane not 5 feet in front of me and jams his brakes, so I dive into the open left lane to avoid the crash, and proceeded to run my truck all the way up against its governor so as to not be an obstruction until I could safely move back over... suddenly, I got reds and blues behind me. Move over to allow the cop by, and he stops both the hotshot and myself. I got a violation for operating a CMV in the left-most lane where 3 or more lanes are present on a limited access highway, a violation for insufficient following distance, and a ticket for 70 in a 60. I managed to get the violations tossed easily enough by DataQ'ing them and having a nice chat with the LT over the phone about the letter of the law allowing any maneuver whatsoever to avoid a crash, and lawyered up for the ticket... which also got tossed, just a much more entertaining fashion. I showed up to court with my lawyer, and essentially argued that the ticket was invalid because I could not have possibly committed the offense in question as described on the ticket and in the officer's report, because my truck was governed at 65, I was loaded to the maximum gross weight allowable by law, and the section of road where the alleged offense took place was on an incline. So the ticket gets thrown out courtesy of that goofy little "exactly as described" distinction in the Revised Code of Washington as it pertains to moving violations, and my commercial record remains spotless to this day xD

[@andrewp2681]

The drinking to get away with a DUI thing is actually a legal myth. It’s a common belief by some that they technically can’t prove it, but every case in which it’s been tried, they’ve stuck with the charge.

[@BDM276]

Most jurisdictions will also have rules about refusing or tampering with a test being an automatic DUI conviction.

[@ZackeTheBrute]

Martian case, a theoretical human living on mars would be considered a Martian and could sue Ontario since they are human.

[@WillowDancer]

6:10 We have, or had, a similar law in Ontario that says that as long as all of the seat belts installed in a car are in use, you are OK. The reason for this is that prior to about the time the law was passed seat belts were an option. This meant that you weren't forcing most of the existing cars on the road to be retrofitted.

[@llomellamomario]

Not even a minute in, and I am already wtfing at the concept of sovereign immunity.

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

The master's tools will never demolish the master's house.

[@llomellamomario]

​@@thewhitefalcon8539And, in doing so, means that, the ones moving such tools get immunity when they should not.

[@cc_snipergirl]

Always keep your important receipts. It doesn't have to literally be the paper copy, just take a picture of it or scan it and let it live on the cloud somewhere for all eternity.

[@DJSchreffler]

That determination you speak of after the 'forgot to validate at Tesco' is called Petty Spite.

[@Thebigpiigg]

Wait what, I just noticed the last 4 Vids were an hour long. I’m so happy

[@Franimus]

The stuff about not giving the prosecutor a chance to prove simple things like where a prison is located or what the weight of a vehicle is are obnoxious and examples of ways our justice system is broken.

[@delta3244]

It's difficult to imagine rules which give lawyers the ability to correct situations like that and cannot be abused. Remember that lawyers are ethically obligated to do everything within the rules, including pushing the boundries of the rules, to benifit their client. We don't want the game to have exploits, and one effect of that is that we like simple, clear rules. Lawyers have all the time in the world to avoid making those sorts of fundamental mistakes, so they are vanishingly rare.

[@kylejohns2288]

The weight of the vehicle is so easily proven since a 18 wheeler will weigh more than 4500kg and the cab weight of the vehicle is publicly available info

[@conberate]

The issue isn't that they didn't have the 'chance to', it is that they failed to do so during their time spent presenting evidence. The basic rules for most trials is that nobody gets to "Know" anything that hasn't been presented to the court during the trial.

[@delta3244]

@@conberate There are exceptions; the court is allowed to take judicial notice that e.g. the sky is blue when not cloudy and other blindingly obvious things, but yeah, that's correct. Along the same lines, every single case has at least one burden that must be met by one side, and if that side fails to prove an element, they lose. If they must show the vehicle weighs >X units (in this case because it's an element of the crime) and they forget, that's on them.

[@lancepeterson7997]

I’ve driven in the bed of a truck in Glacier National park under the same laws as in Hawaii. Best experience ever. Just make sure you have an experienced, level-headed driver like my dad.

[@Ticklestein]

5:45 - That cop checked if he did the license thing, then didn’t put the date in on the back end. SOP in some jurisdictions

[@ianh1504]

"Can ÿou imagine getting calls for a debt over a decade old?" Millenials with student loan debt: *laughs in broken promises and crushed dreams*

[@EvilPaladin11]

That's a bit too real my dude(ette)! *laughs as a single tear runs down my millennial face* *laughs to hide the pain of interest keeping the loan amount basically the same for a little over a decade*

[@subtlewhatssubtle]

This is honestly why I worked overtime to pay off my debts early. Greatest feeling in the world was taking calls from Sallie Mae vultures and politely crushing them with a reminder that my loans were paid and they wouldn't get anything else from me. They kept trying though, at which point I had a newly minted lawyer friend send them a letter. Since he was on the hook for student debts too, he had *fun* writing them a GFYS letter on my behalf. No more Sallie Mae calls after that.

[@ianh1504]

@@subtlewhatssubtle if ida graduated 5 years earlier i would have made more money, if i graduated 5 years later id have made more momey, the number of middle fingers the world has thrown my generation is innumerable and boomers bragging about "i paid off my $1200 college loans no problem why cant you just pull yourselves up by your bootstraps and work a few extra hours waiting tables for tips to pay off your 75k debt" is another one of them

[@subtlewhatssubtle]

@@ianh1504 My guy, I graduated in 2008. You're preaching to the choir. I just got angry and did everything I could to get them off me.

[@ianh1504]

@@subtlewhatssubtle so you got to enter the workforce before the crash that that tanked my wages lol

[@samparsons8671]

I am a lawyer in the UK I was working on an assault case where a man slapped a store clerk with a fish I was the clerks lawyer Unfortunately I did not have enough proof that he assaulted my client. Lucky fir me it is illegal to aggressively hold a fish This carries a harsher sentence than assault

[@standard-carrier-wo-chan]

The Colt 1911 case made me realize just how old some popular firearms are. In my mind, a 100 y/o gun is something like a Winchester Lever Action or one of those very old revolvers.

[@CharlesGriswold]

Little known fact: The thing you keep in your wallet is not the actual license. "License" means permission. The thing in your wallet is _proof_ that you have a license to drive, but it is not the license itself. That's why you can drive to the DMV to get a replacement if you lose your license card.

[@satibel]

for belts in france : Installing sitting in the back requres inspection, but if the car is pre-2000, you don't require seatbelts, but if you install seatbelts you need a huge (and relatively expensive) inspection, so you can just bolt planks to the frame, get past inspection (sharp corners should be avoided but that's about it) and after you have the new certificate with the number of seats, you can add seatbelts, since it's not forbidden.

[@josephdestaubin7426]

On the last story, the judge would not allow the reenactment because the condition of the gun would not be identical to the condition the gun was in during the incident (no bullets). So the reenactment might be deemed prejudicial.

[@garagemuso72kd5]

For the "drunk driver" who got out of the car and had a swig of Whisky, which therefore "tainted" the breathalyser analysis, in Australia the police can force a blood test to gain a result (I'm not 100% sure but I think for police to actually take you to court, they have to have a result gained from a blood test, not just the breathalyser result as they can be inaccurate. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this one!) I have actually had mates who were forced to sit at the police station for an hour (after blowing over the limit) then blow another breathalyser to get a true reading due to recently drinking before the first breathalyser test was administered. This would negate the "tainting" of a person's breath.

[@Crazyman23]

Michigan has some weird laws on occupants of a vehicle too. For short distances such as between farm fields it's legal to have people in the bed, or transferring from one job site to another. All other cases they have to be inside the cabin with all belts in use. So if you got 8 people and 5 seats 3 people can sit elsewhere and don't have to worry about a belt.

[@taigenraine]

I think the weirdest case I won was when I not only got the statue of limitations extended because of covid but only if I could upgrade a misdemeanor to a felony. So I did that on all counts. Then not only worked with a very like-minded judge to not even have to tell the defense what the actual specific charge allowed the misdemeanor to be a felony until they had already rested their case, and then come up with 3 vague scenarios to upgrade the charge and instructed the jury they didn't even have to agree which charge they thought worked. Totally wouldn't have worked if the judge hadn't lowered the burden of proof for the upgrading charge from 'beyond a reasonable doubt' to 'if you think he might have intended to break one of these 3 laws'. Never have worked with such a accommodating judge.

[@thomasschulz2167]

So, you're publicly admitting that you and the judge colluded to upgrade a misdemeanor charge to a felony. Then withheld that charge upgrade from opposing council until after they rested their case and no longer had the opportunity to argue their case. You sir or ma'am and the judge are corrupt. Hopefully opposing council reported you both to the respective associations, and won on appeal.

[@taigenraine]

@thomasschulz2167 Well, the defendant is trying really hard to get an appeal together, but in the meantime, we have a gag order on him to further disrupt his life pre sentencing. We had to ease it back a little, but the guy is going into a debate now with one hand tied behind his back. Also that judge I told you about, he even planned to have the sentencing just a couple days before the guy will be nominated for a major political office, so if he gets jail time or house arrest he will have to miss that even if he eventually wins appeal. It's just about the perfect timing. What an amazing judge.

[@catchara1496]

@@taigenrainethis just sounds malicious. Intentionally so.

[@taigenraine]

@@catchara1496 I really thought this would be more obvious, I just described what happened in the Trump Business records trial... 😀

[@LycaFurs]

CANADIAN NARRATOR MANNN ❤️

[@kentoriyama]

One time the state of California put a tax lien on my credit report for unpaid income tax. I did live and work in San Diego for 4 years, in the Navy. I discovered this about 8 years after I had left San Diego. When you're active duty military you pay state tax to your home of record. My home of record? Florida, where no state income tax exists. It took about an hour explaining this was a bogus charge and they need to get it off my credit report. A month later it was cleared.

[@billieking2257]

Not a lawyer but I'm a paralegal studies student. We learned about a case where a man who was pulled over on the side of the road (parked legally), the car was off and keys were not in the ignition, was arrested for drunk driving as the officer that arrested him smelled alcohol on him. He was convicted but appealed the conviction, saying there was no proof that he was actually driving the car. Since the car was off, the keys weren't in the ignition, he parked the car legally, and he was asleep in the car, his conviction was overturned on the basis of reasonable doubt that he was in "actual physical control" of the vehicle. It may raise some eyebrows but as the judge stated in the opinion part of the verdict, if they enforce this idea that being in the car while drunk despite it not moving or being on, they would have to arrest people who made the decision to not actually drive and instead, stay put in their car and sleep until they sobered up, which makes sense in hindsight.

[@Obsiqax]

Big Apple Maps and other groups like them like Untergunther are extremely admirable.

[@EclipsePheniox]

Yeah, reenacting an event gives the jurors a better idea of what happened. They have all or close to all the information for them to use to find out who's guilty. So the prosecution was deliberately trying a tactic to prevent them from not able to find out. Kinda scummy in my opinion, good to see that the corporals didn't listen and did it anyway.

[@sasukedemon888888888]

Reminds me of the time a guy, who shot someone in self defense, was not allowed to argue self defense in court. It was specifically listed that he wasn't allowed to. Well, as that was his genuine reason, he wasn't allowed to refute anything and was convicted and spent a long time in big boy prison until he could have a re-trial where he was found innocent of all charges.

[@subtlewhatssubtle]

Smart move asking for two Corporals though. They usually have to deal with absolute bungus from above and below so they'd definitely be the ones tired enough to just ignore a stupid decision and reenact the scene then and there.

[@EclipsePheniox]

@@subtlewhatssubtle 100%

[@tanakasensei3450]

When I was in my early 20s, I had an old jalopy of a car that I would use to get to my equally cruddy job. One day, my brakes decided to fail right before I approached a red light in the left turn lane. Naturally, I hit someone, and I was driving a Skylark (which left a pretty deep dent in the other vehicle, thanks to the unique shape of the bumper). We both pulled over, and I had to tell work that, despite being not even a block away, I was going to be late. Well, when the cops arrived, I explained that my brakes had gone out, but the other person was making it sound like I accelerated and purposely ran through a red light, and that she had to speed up in an attempt to avoid me. The way she worded it, I was in the far right lane, not the left turn lane. Of course I ended up with a ticket, but the officer said I would be able to fight it as long as I brought in a receipt for repairs on my brakes. It was the first, and probably only, time I fought a ticket, and I fortunately won, thanks to the officer not showing up, and having the repair receipt.

[@Side_Swipe20]

Story 5: the officer FOR SURE did that on purpose. I’ve had that done to me as well, he pulled me over for expired insurance but it had lapsed maybe three days before the incident. When I went to court for the ticket, there wasn’t a date on it and it got let go. The officer was there that day and said “my apologies your honor, it must have slipped my mind that day”

[@BryantWalker-m6e]

The break in DESERVED a serving of lead.

[@42Core]

How do you get a DUI for riding a horse? The horse wasn't drunk

[@MrThecyrille34]

the one about the guy fireing at the intersections while drunk on his horse made me laugh for 20 minutes.

[@Markyroson]

51:17 I remember that! By far my favourite case lolol. I seem to remember, though, that Super Mac was awarded the trademark. McDonald’s also could appeal all they liked but would never win as the only evidence they were allowed to submit on appeal was the inadmissible stuff. McDonald’s fired that counsel.

[@robertheinrich2994]

my father argued in some capacity to lower a sentence. this was in austria in the 80s or 90s. essentially, he came up with other things that carry a similar prison sentence (half a year). one thing he found was "illegaly operating a nuclear power plant".

[@DeathMetalDerf]

If the DWI charge fails they can still try for something called DWAI or another one called DUI. DUI is driving under the influence, and it doesn't question what substance you were under the influence of, or to what level of impairment you were at. DWAI is similar, but it stands for "driving while abilities impaired," and is lesser than DUI or DWI, but still to be avoided at all times. At least that's how it breaks down here where I live.

[@kdavis1492]

I got hauled into child support court. Using cancelled checks of money my parents paid, the judge ruled I overpaid by 150 months. Pissed my ex off, who had made a complaint. I never paid the clerk of the court. Paid my son's expensive school directly, which was way more than my support amount. A few years later I got notice of a court date for nonpayment. My ex called the clerk, on my behalf. But they refused to drop the case. At court, my lawyer tells the judge, I'm paying and never got credit for the prior over credits. He then drops the bomb. "Mr X also has a defense witness, the ex Mrs. X." Judge states, "Can't you get this s*** settled before court?" Lawyer has us go to the hallway. He then comes out and says my support has been totally paid through 18. My son was 14. I still kept paying anyway.

[@dallasl3688]

That is absolutely true. There are a lot of laws in a lot of places about firing a gun in the air at intersections to warn oncomers. Most were put in place in the late 1800 and early 1900 hundreds but the majority of them were never repealed.

[@duloth5518]

The 'drinking -after- driving' loophole generally doesn't work. The case doesn't have to be 100%, just 'beyond a reasonable doubt'. The only time it might work is if you, for example, hit something, drove home, the cop got to your place to charge you with hit and run and found you on the couch drinking and watching TV.

[@justinkaufman495]

Even then you're going for leaving the scene of an accident.

[@fludderkiddie]

27:00 I have actually faced this in the states more than once and won…and everyone should know this about how debt/credit/creditors/debt collections works…it is THEIR responsibility to prove that you owe the $ and to produce the ORIGINAL bill from the ORIGINAL debtor…if they cannot, they have to remove the smudge from your credit report within 10 days or face the credit commissioner.

[@JayeEllis]

LMFAO at the Martians having no standing in Ontario! Marvin will be disappointed.

[@Geographus666]

8:50 Fun fact: Breaking out of prison is not illegal in Germany. It is seen as a fundamental human instinct to thrive for freedom and thus you are not punished for trying. BUT (!) you are still accountable for anything that actually is illegal while trying to do so, for example they still get you for destruction of property if you try to break a fence or dig a tunnel, you are in really big trouble if you take a guard hostage etc. but you are only tried on those things and "breaking out of prison" does not add to your sentence. If you manage to do it without breaking any other laws, you do not get additional time for it.

[@satibel]

the martian case is basically the same as the reason for ebay to ban selling souls: a- it doesn't exist, hence you're not selling an item, so the listing is removed b- it exists, hence you're selling a body part, which is also against the tos

[@casey6556]

The “swig after DUI stop” concept is why in Canada it’s a separate crime to drink within a certain time of driving if you have a reasonable expectation of needing to take an alcohol test (such as when stopped on the side of the road by a cop, or after an accident)

[@OrangeRising]

Some of these are just scary. Like the drunk driver not having any penalty, or the person not allowed to have a firearm keeping it after shooting someone because of the year it was made.

[@danielrhouck]

Story 37: Iʼm somewhat confused by this one. Why was the calendar wrong? Did the royal observatory take into account the location of the specific house while of course the calendar used some location in Brussels? (My first guess before re-listening was that astronomers use a later definition of dusk than anyone else, but itʼd be much later so that probably isnʼt it.)

[@hummel6364]

Law in 37 actually makes a lot of sense and many places have it. Thing is after sundown people are generally at home, meaning a break-in is automatically more dangerous at those hours.

[@richardrejmer8721]

34:45 Here in Australia if you pull that "Take a big swig of whisky" trick, you will still lose. . Because science has shown it takes SEVERAL MINUTES for any alcohol in your digestive system to be processed into your bloodstream and from your bloodstream into the chemicals detected coming from your lungs that the breathalyzer analyzes . . "You just took a big swig? . . TOO BAD . . . That's NOT in your blood yet, so whatever we read RIGHT NOW is accurate of the level you were just driving with in your system" AND in Australia, NO state police or any other police departments do "field sobriety tests" . . It's STRAIGHT to the field breathalyzer there immediately on the side of the road and if you're over the limit, you are arrested and then re-checked on the big calibrated breathalyzer in the police station OR blood sample. . Either way, you're screwed. .

[@michellekeith5602]

The first story is crazy but a brilliant hats off to the app that was so OCD in the best way❤️❤️❤️

[@steamingcupofmemes]

The cowboy dude got his horse IMPOUNDED???

[@AsobiMedio]

If anything, on that last case a lawsuit should have been made on the gun manufacturer. A design defect that causes a firearm to discharge under only moderate(at best, two dudes pushing and pulling on it isn't much force) without pulling the trigger is worth taking to court. Either that, or the military base itself for having a defective firearm on site.