Jay-Z's Lawyer Presents His Innocence To The Media - Should Buzbee Be Nervous?

[@cajbaf]

I would like to say to that attorney. I was molested as a child. I NEVER told anyone, not my parents, not my best friend and not my husband who I was married to for over 22 years. It wasn't until later in my life that I finally voiced it out loud. You know dang well that knowing the amount of money these people have, nobody would have believed her.

[@CandyQueens_OfficialBrand]

Me too ☹️

[@TeresaDoss-p9u]

I agree 💯 percent

[@yodaspank850]

I was graped at 14 and didn't tell my family about it until 23 years later. No one in my family believes it. Eventually I had to cut off all contact with my family. It's incredibly painful to not be believed. Everyone wants to blame the victim and it's disgusting. All that being said I also believe if they are proven to be false allegations then the accuser needs to be held accountable and pay some kind of penalty.

[@TeresaDoss-p9u]

I at 67 talking about it.

[@dregoezable]

That's bullshit

[@tab6957]

Jay-Z and his legal team: 'Trust us bro, we already investigated ourselves and we found that we're innocent'...

[@nadagabri5783]

Exactly

[@chelloandra]

😂

[@cindystaff2932]

lol

[@SaltySweetCaroline1]

😅😅😅

[@jodyrebeljohnsoncacciatore4791]

This comes across as frantic and desperate,, yuk

[@PeterLeahy-ux8od]

This seems like a preventative measure to prevent further alleged victims from coming forward rather than simply about this case.

[@chelloandra]

Good point

[@teriz4506]

Scare victims and attorneys as well.

[@Madmarsha]

This is so cringe. It may work but the whole thing is very cringe and produced.

[@StepheneMaxwell]

Seems to me he’s effectively debunking her story

[@tab6957]

@@PeterLeahy-ux8od Well, people are making a big deal about people being silent for so many years, but then what if they were scared and now seeing criminal charges they feel safer to come forward?

[@AmyB369]

When he said most people tell someone about sexual assault that couldn't be more untrue. Most people never tell anyone. Also presenting his case to the public as a PR move is very inappropriate. If he has a good case it should be presented to a jury not in this manner

[@KristenMeghanTV]

True, I know this because I am a survivor.

[@StepheneMaxwell]

@@KristenMeghanTV is this your first time telling someone? Serious question

[@heatherclayton-callaghan4270]

​@@KristenMeghanTV I agree. I have 2 SA incidents I've NEVER SPOKEN of to ANYONE BUT GOD.

[@Remmysage]

This is his lively hood. He defiantly should defend his self to the public and go hard.

[@markgado8782]

Very true. I only told one person, years later, when she asked, I didn't tell. Until now that is. I'm a big boy now. 😊

[@jeanmariekearney4653]

Take a shot every time Spiro says, “ It never happened”. Me thinks he protests too much.

[@Karlinj]

Well, that is the entire point of the press briefing.

[@AlanGagleard]

This pr stunt is the exact reason why the judge should have issued a gag order on the parties and their counsel.

[@Debthouse]

The plaintiff/claimant opened the door to all of this by providing a lengthy interview to NBC.

[@TheAmerz1]

I had some pretty crazy things happen at parties when I was a teenager, I couldn't tell you what season it was let alone any more details other than brief memories of the event.

[@theshadowfax239]

Did any of those things happen with insanely famous people? You'd probably remember it a lot clearer if it did.

[@Somegirl811]

On the night of a specific event where there's photos all over the internet to refresh your memory

[@OneFer-c6q]

@@Somegirl811 The freak party was in a private mansion, I'm not sure photographers would be allowed into those events.

[@Somegirl811]

@OneFer-c6q I meant, like, to help her figure out what year VMA it was. Who performed and attended, what exhibits they had, etc. Nah, we know Diddy filmed those parties and the feds may or may not have the footage. I'm talking about, they had the whole internet to help her get the story straight before accusing someone of a serious crime willy nilly. And this is the modified version after the first one that was even worse.

[@nursejones2]

Unfortunately, me too. Early 70’s. What can I say 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@textickulartrauma8287]

So I am reading some of the comments and see that people have an inherent dislike for Jay-Z and his lawyer- a seemingly visceral reaction. I dislike Jay-Z from what little I know of him, however I will say that I have been a child abuse investigator for 25 years and I would also question the account of a then 13 year old autistic child- I find it hard to believe the details as she is telling them- the five hours to get to New York, all those hours that she was there, then the call to her father who then had to drive 5 hours there and then 5 hours back to get her- and he has no recollection of anything? Five hour drive in silence after she took off? Jay-Z's lawyer is doin exactly what I would hope he would do for me if he was representing me against a charge such as this. Unless there's a smoking gun- like a Lewinsky dress or her rapists baby- I don't know how she's going to do on stand.

[@Cassiee102]

I hadnt heard that she was autistic before seeing comments on this video. When did that come out? Ive been following the story with LYK and may have missed if he mentioned it, maybe he mentions it in this video and i havent got to that part. If true, id tend to agree with you. Spiro does bring up some interesting points here, makes you think, for sure. I try to believe victims but this whole trend of trial by media rubs me the wrong way. I know the justice system isnt necessarily set up for SA victims and they dont have to speak up until theyre ready, but when they go civil before criminal, it makes you wonder especially when huge payoffs are the end result

[@_modvault]

Based on my experiences with many autistic people over the years, if this victim is autistic, I think that bolsters her credibility. Autistic people tend to be extremely literal and honest. Sometimes their perspectives are skewed in regards to interpretation, but afa recalling facts, they tend to have extremely reliable memories for recalling specific statements and circumstances. It would be interesting for a body language analyst to examine the veracity of her claims, which I'm sure will be forthcoming if she is eventually denied anonymity in this case.

[@fallinstr2098]

@@Cassiee102she did an interview on NBC….. the interview…. You’ll see… this sounds like false allegations after getting more information directly from her.

[@OneFer-c6q]

It was Puff and Jay-Z who raped his 13-year-old autistic daughter, the dad might've been terrified for her life and his.

[@nursejones2]

I don’t like Jay Z but I do like Alex Spiro. I just don’t believe everything he says.

[@AshAxiom.1211]

Imo, most people, especially children, tell NO ONE. Doesn't mean it never happened .

[@Somegirl811]

Every study on this says otherwise.

[@cajbaf]

​Still doesn't mean it isn't so. I Never told anyone and it wasn't until many many years later that I could even say it out loud. Never even told my husband of over 22 years ​@@Somegirl811

[@cajbaf]

​@@Somegirl811 Still doesn't mean it didn't happen. I NEVER told anyone, not even my husband of over 22 years. It wasn't until I was much older that I could even admit it out loud.

[@kathleenmckeithen118]

Precisely.

[@Somegirl811]

@cajbaf there are things I would take to my grave but not a violent gang rape. The woman is nearly 40 years old and said nothing throughout the whole me too movement or the whole ensuing period when they lifted the statute of limitations. And I guess she still wants to protect the evil woman who watched the whole time. Justice?

[@kaori8208]

This feels like when you get in trouble and you make a powerpoint to prove your innocence and sit your parents down to listen to what you have to say and they still don’t believe you

[@Brett323]

this is such a ridiculous, pedantic ppt presentation. peter taking it seriously sort of makes me cringe. oh jeez, she said a 20 min drive and it was more than that? case closed lol

[@europeanbrows]

😂

[@DAISYROSE22]

Yeah, they don't believe you because you already have a pattern of behavior or lying your ass off about everything.

[@RobertaReal7980]

They didn't have PowerPoint when I was growing up. That's probably why I never got away with anything 😞

[@Tinmann_77]

They're doing in a 30 minute presentation what they would do over weeks in a court. The PowerPoint is so that smoothbrained idiots can follow along because her story is so full of holes and inconsistencies

[@karendesalva7674]

Wasn't Jay-Z best friends with Diddy for years? He didn't know what Diddy was doing at the White parties and he didn't participate? I find that hard to believe. Although, everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Lets see how this plays out.

[@SuperKillerdog]

You don’t know this people! Other celebs attended those public events, it does not mean those public/day parties were bad. You people are obsessed with Jay.

[@Brett323]

@@SuperKillerdog i literally don't care but you have to be so pathetic to think jay-z was best friends with pdiddy and went to all his parties but is just finding out now that he did those things. lol what a beta

[@StarterVillian]

We use the phrase butthole buddies down here in the South

[@Royale5600]

No

[@ChristinaTodd1970]

Yep. And Spiro went out and said they were not friends, only colleagues. Lame

[@acsstancil]

Gonna nitpick on words too - Spiro said she needed to leave the house by 12:45 then changed it to 12:48 then changed the time again for her to "have to leave" to 12:30. I know it's small but consistent times matters even for the defense.

[@coffee8599]

Didn't the judge just say to try this case in the court and cut the crap? It just makes me think less of Jay-Z to do this in public for PR. All I see is money at work.

[@Brett323]

she said that after this presentation

[@Lori_in_CT]

Jay-Z, not that I ever cared anyway, lost me when he was receiving an award chastised the audience, the organization and everyone else because Beyonce didn’t win Record of the Year or whatever it was.

[@ChristinaTodd1970]

@@Lori_in_CT I thought that was Kanye

[@Cassiee102]

​@@ChristinaTodd1970kanye did that years ago when he took the mic from taylor. Jay did this at the grammys this year, i think it was the grammys..

[@DAISYROSE22]

Who thinks Jay Z worries about what the public thinks of him? Raise your hand. Anybody...somebody...Bueller...? Cowboy Carter all about the dolla, dolla bills y'all.

[@Aberdonianforlife]

Jay-Z is trying to maintain his career. I also think he is trying to taint a jury pool should this go to trial. The lawyer continually saying "because it didn't happen" does not mean there is no case. In my opinion this isn't appropriate. Let the process play out. If you go to court and this is your strategy, fine.

[@stephanywilson475]

First thing I thought of as well! Tainting a potential jury pool

[@aleanafox9905]

My stepfather said he did not molest me either. He did. Still remember what happened, where, fuzzy on details right before and after. I wasn’t drugged. Am not autistic as they say she is.

[@aleanafox9905]

Tainting jury pool, yes

[@Laura-fv1oe1]

I think because the plaintiff gave that interview to the media, Spiro has an obligation to also defend his client in the court of public opinion. What's he supposed to do in this situation, honestly?

[@apriljoy1094]

I don't think this will go to trial but the problem is if it doesn't and they drop it or it gets thrown out many people will think no smoke without fire rather than assume innocence.

[@megzmorbidcuriosities]

As a rape and abuse survivor-it messes with our memory-it’s why I couldn’t take my case to court for justice.

[@traceyv9961]

Agree, trauma in general, messes with your brain. I was assaulted 35 years ago, and remember a lot, but I'm sure some details, when repeating a story, would prob not be 100% accurate. I'm so sorry this has happened to you.

[@brooklynrules6117]

So sorry for what u went thru

[@teriz4506]

Same, you block out as much as possible. I can not remember the year or small unimportant details. But, I remember every detail of the assault.

[@miffedcuttlefish6139]

😢

[@ChristinaTodd1970]

I’m sorry. You didn’t deserve that.

[@gypsygeb6640]

Even if the year was wrong, even if the location is wrong, the fact that the father cant recall and that the only person who can also confirm this is the friend that drove her down - is "dead"...??? Whats going on here? This whole case is BS to me. Its not even about defending JayZ, its about what exactly are these people bringing to court?

[@aleanafox9905]

To me that would be worrying. Unless he flew off handle and knew what happened and was bought off then or now. I think Jay z knows who she is ( through investigations). Even Peter thought they may know because of something the lawyer said. Also Jay z says there was no other case ever against Jay z. But left a hint here may have been other times he has? He is super rich I don’t believe nobody went for a payout before. That doesn’t even seem possible. Maybe he has paid someone off before ( maybe not even been guilty) but is fed up. Let’s see how this progresses. I would hope her lawyer has evidence, if not and she accuses jay z falsely there should be repercussions.

[@Ashton351]

How about a 13 year old girl waiting naked for 5 hours in a gas station to be picked ip by her father. No witnesses to that?

[@lauren5317]

His absolute shock at the idea of a kid sneaking out of the window in broad daylight is so funny 😅 half of my friends were doing that every weekend

[@Somegirl811]

But why would you do that if you had made up a cover story and lied to your parents about hanging out with the girl that was driving you to the event? She could just walk out the front door and got in the car, and let him think they were going to her house. Because later she said she had lied to her dad and told him when she was leaving that she was going to go hang with girlfriends. That's the point he was making in case you missed it.

[@scottie2hot]

You just had bad parents if that’s the case because that makes no sense.

[@lauren5317]

Yeah a lot of my friends didn't have great parents! Or had super strict parents, there wasn't really an in-between ​@@scottie2hot

[@samanthasmith6246]

@@scottie2hotRight at 13years old, which is middle school.

[@Pinkclouds512]

@@scottie2hotthey said their friends, not them. It happens all the time, sometimes the parents don’t know

[@casandrar5266]

He can not argue that no one has ever come forward as the same with diddy. Not even an argument

[@veeemejia]

This chat is so against Jay-Z. They can see evidence and just ignore it because they dislike Jay Z.

[@jazzyg530]

Makes you wonder why they dislike him... The guy has been rumored to be a bad dude for many years. That might be why!

[@veeemejia]

@ rumors are rumors and facts are facts. Let’s hope the jury doesn’t go by hearsay and focuses on EVIDENCE.

[@chantelcpr]

@@veeemejiaI agree with you. I dislike Jay Z and I believe he did bad bad things to hurt a lot of people but he deserves a voice too. He deserves a factual defense. If this isn’t true, he deserves for that to come to light.

[@scottie2hot]

@@chantelcprbut why do you believe that? lol. Other than his skin color.

[@chantelcpr]

@@scottie2hot that’s weird. None of what I said had to do with skin color you racist POS. He is a POS for many reasons but one being him dating Beyoncé before she was of age then marrying her and then cheating on her. Anyone who cheats at all let alone serial cheating is a horrible person. It is murder of the soul for some.

[@tonizamora8695]

This is the 1st that I had heard that she lived and traveled 5 hours away. As much as I hate to put any doubt on this young lady, let's say everything she says is true. I have one huge question: How did her dad make it to her so fast, and home again in that window of time?

[@notbornagainbornright5046]

I believe her because I live in Las Vegas and was underage once and YES they let you in and don't care about your age especially when drugs are involved

[@devanshepard9118]

thank you and how did he find her?

[@Debthouse]

And if the father did make that 10-hour roundtrip in the middle of the night in record time, you would think he would not only remember it, but be boasting about making the trip in record time for years to come. People usually celebrate when they are able to achieve miraculous feats.

[@devanshepard9118]

@Debthouse for him to have found her he would ha ehad ti call the police m this is 2000. We did not have google maps back then

[@athenarocks7657]

@@Debthouseeven if he wasn’t, I’d find it hard to forget a last minute 10 drive in the middle of the night to get a family member.

[@kimincannes]

I think this guy is trying waaayyyy too hard... almost feels like he's got a fly swatter at the ready. We'll see.

[@chrispjr]

Can you really "try too hard" when facing these kind of allegations? Wouldn't you want your name cleared too?

[@NerdyDogMom1]

If I was innocent, I would bring everything forward I could to clear my name both in the court of public opinion and the court. Don’t forget in a civil trial being found liable only takes the plaintiff proving that their claims are more likely to be valid than not. In most civil cases, the threshold for meeting the preponderance of evidence standard is 51% certainty. Her own Father denies this happened. The wrong celebrity, running naked, 5 hour drive each way… I’ll wait to hear more. False accusations can ruin lives and make it harder for real victims to come forward.

[@yodaspank850]

I was graped at 14. When I told my family about it, 32 years later, no one in my family believed me. There is nothing more painful than that and I had to cut off all contact from my family. I agree with false accusations and if they can prove that they are false accusations the accuser should have to play some kind of penalty for it.

[@Debthouse]

Your last statement is really the part I am shocked that so many people are overlooking. If these allegations turn out to be false (which will ultimately be determined in court, not in the comments section on KZbin), this will negatively impact _actual_ victim-survivors. Why would anyone advocate for _real_ victims to face more scrutiny and challenges than they already do? It is just another form of victimization that these survivors will have to endure. It is honestly heart-breaking to think about it.

[@CocoRose336]

this presser was honestly cringey af

[@kiki07717]

100% agree

[@amf004]

This is trying the case in court of public opinion 😮

[@Physics072]

Well he has a big NFL contract they have clauses he does not want to get booted so he fights in public.

[@apriljoy1094]

Yes because that is where his reputation and business will be ruined. That's why some celebrities pay of for spurious accusations

[@dregoezable]

@@amf004 they introduced his name to the public

[@Remmysage]

As they should!

[@devanshepard9118]

i mean yea jay z name has been dragged in the mud and after she did that nbc interview i do think she is lying

[@lhr8833]

Spiro is working extra for the PR team. I’m getting a bit tired of these rich entitled people that want to do the trial of the public opinion, before even making it to court. I understand he is trying to avoid cancelling JZ in advance to trial, and that is valid, very valid. However, when he crosses to the attacking the other side without legally corroborated evidence, then he is jumping to do what some accusers do, he is doing the same thing he is criticizing. PR strategies are not legal strategies and are quite distasteful some times.

[@cynthiaklippel2550]

Love your commentary! Teaching on line so great! Thank you for your efforts and your father ❤️❤️

[@tdelli3675]

I've changed outfits in one day 😂😂 angry lawyer guy: "that's not possible you're lying!!"

[@aleanafox9905]

Kids take changes of clothes in school quickly change because parents don’t allow them to dress the way they may want. Hell I’m in my 60s and can change my clothes in a minute.

[@tdelli3675]

@aleanafox9905 exactly 💯 I know I did! My mother wouldn't let me leave the house in certain outfits so I'd pack my "bad outfitted" up lol and run away 🙃 🤣

[@Somegirl811]

@@tdelli3675 formal outfits, twice. So the event, Twirl, and Club Lotus, JLO, not like she threw on jeans but JLO got changed, twice, and this all happened, photos and probably video to prove it, THEN they somehow all ran to the house real quick, drank, mingled, gang raped a girl, and ran back to the club? That's ridiculous.

[@Somegirl811]

@@tdelli3675 also let's not forget that a 13 yr old girl with autism isn't the same as most girls were back then. Also she claims she gave her dad a story and so he was thinking she was out with girls, so why sneak out the window instead of just getting into the car with the girls?

[@gothgammy666]

Spiro is trashing his reputation for JayZ & it’s embarrassing to watch

[@h.b.theminimalist489]

He's saying a big white house with a circular driveway doesn't exist anywhere near the location? I find that hard to believe.

[@AuntTea-y3s]

Same. Not one single white house with a circular driveway in a 20 minute radius from the venue? Not one? And how did he determine it was 15 minutes to the nearest gas station...from the house that does not exist? Does he know Jay Z and crew left the VMAs at the very end of the show? Could they have left early to avoid paparazzi and traffic? The only details that throw me are the father not remembering driving there and back and the time line of when the girl actually got home.

[@BabyT709]

Id like to know how he got that info, how would one obtain a picture of every single house in an area over 20 years ago when hardly anyone walked around with a camera on them back then, no door or dash cams, etc

[@BabyT709]

​@@AuntTea-y3sthe gas station didnt make sense to me either, I live in a small remote area and ur never 15 minutes away from a gas station, cities I lived in had a gas station on pretty much every corner, why would a large city with venues this size not have any gas station in the area?

[@apriljoy1094]

@@BabyT709 satellites and maps perhaps... It's not really hard. The whole worlds been mapped for decades

[@StepheneMaxwell]

I’m reading these comments wondering if people paid ANY attention to what he said.

[@scottie2hot]

They didn’t. Jay Z is anyway guilty in their mind and nothing will change that.

[@samanthabraddy4422]

THANK YOU!!!!!!!

[@archie9927]

You really can't get passed the timeline, it just doesn't work. This case has really just become the battle of the egos, it is entertaining to watch.

[@qest6889]

paid all right

[@holleyo.5083]

Trying the whole court of public opinion thing. It's not working for me anyway.

[@janedoe6786]

Thank you for sharing this break down of Jay Z lawyer on the allegations against him

[@gothgammy666]

His attorney should have included some of this in his filing

[@lhr8833]

Who else doesn’t remember precise locations for places that you went just once, in your teens, when you weren’t even driving yet? 🙋🏽‍♀️ “There is no white house here” 😒 And him making arguments of things that are “impossible”. Things that are literally included in Diddi’s charges for other victims. 😂

[@janettrowbridge8042]

Right!?? There’s literally not one single White House with a u shaped driveway anywhere in that area of New York? Ok 🙄

[@Somegirl811]

@@lhr8833 you would at least remember what age you were when it happened at 13, and that year they didn't have the same exhibits or attendees that she named.

[@lhr8833]

@@Somegirl811 That is what Spiro says. This is precisely the problem of starting trying a case in the public opinion before the trial. People take what each side says like written in stone.

[@Somegirl811]

@@lhr8833 a lot of people do. Not me. If I thought it was true, I would be outraged, but there is just no evidence at all. But yeah, I guess that's what Buzbee's counting on. They cashed in on the Cassie lawsuit and now the lawyers are drunk on greed.

[@cajbaf]

​@@Somegirl811No you don't remember certain things. I don't remember the exact age it happened to me but I am POSITIVE it did. Why are you arguing with everyone about this?? Were YOU there to say it didn't happen???

[@megzmorbidcuriosities]

Woot, woot actually catching a live instead of being part of the replay crew! ❤ happy Tuesday morning y’all!

[@Madmarsha]

This feels like My Cousin Vinny: "Once again, the communication process has broken down. It appears to me that you want to skip the arraignment process, go directly to trial, skip that, and get a dismissal. Well, I'm not about to revamp the entire judicial process just because you find yourself in the unique position of defending clients who say they didn't do it."

[@katet3327]

Youts!

[@LainK1978]

Actually, that's regularly how things happen in law. Especially civil.

[@qest6889]

don't forget the jon benet-esque letter or was that luigi 64

[@stargazingscotty9240]

Being a Victim of S/A, then was held in the apartment not allowed to leave, and listening to them discuss how they could unalive me thru the door, It really hurts me when people lie about being a Victim. Making a False Claim can ruin someone's life, even if they're never charged. They can lose their Job, Home, Family, and Friends from an Allegation, True or Not. So, these things are serious, and it makes real victims less likely to come forward.

[@NerdyDogMom1]

I’m sorry that happened to you. False accusations can and do ruin lives. They absolutely do make it harder for victims to come forward. I don’t like the way the dominoes seem to be falling with this situation.

[@mariehathaway5031]

It isn’t really convincing me yet

[@Star-hg1kt]

Why not, what are the loopholes ?

[@Poachingpredators-u2c]

Same. It’s going to be very interesting to see how Jay z’s lawyer handles this case and keeps Jay z out of being pulled in with diddy’s rico. Diddy never took a break long enough from committing crimes all the way back to his college days. To stop the rico going back to his college days. So everyone all the way back to his college days will be included in the Rico. This is going to be the largest widespread case in American history. And America’s mother court has this case SDNY

[@Star-hg1kt]

@Poachingpredators-u2c MY PREDICTION IS. 1. The girl family are not with the B.S, they still have honor that incl most Southern white families 2. She'll turn on him since it's not beneficial 💰 & bling bling Tony is everything they hate anyway down South 3. Jay-Z team is ryt by targeting him & excusing her, now the same state will follow suit. Tony Buzbee will lose everything & Texas will remain values > money 😊

[@Tinmann_77]

She says she fled the party naked. Was she still naked when she got to the gas station? Was she dressed? If she was dressed where did the clothes come from? None of her story makes any sense, but this is the largest whole in it at a glance.... we apart frfrom, the fact the jumbotron wasn't there and the streets were blocked off so there weren't any of the cars she said she knocked on, and the fact that a house like she described didn't exist in that area at that time. And her father's behavior according to her.

[@Star-hg1kt]

@Tinmann_77 Listen this person is forming beliefs based on a tribal identity rather than an objective examination of the issues. They haven't read or followed the case or know what's claimed. 1. Dead friend ❌️( convenient 🙄 ) 2. Gas station worker ? ( whereabouts unknown ) 3. Dad ❌️ (🚗 10hrs in total no 🍇 recollection ) The dad is on his way back home 🏡 ( 5hrs drive ) - No recollection of a drugged out 13 yr old - Buises & blood stains coz of scaring from vaginal penetration, difficulty to walk, etc etc Like nothing not even the typical annoyance of a pre teen. The was silence 🔕 on the way back 🙄. It's sad pdf is the new culture wars peeps will destroy each other on. Nothing is sacred in America 🇺🇸

[@ElllenRings]

I'm not saying anything about credibility of anyone, but could Jay-z and Diddy have paid this plaintiff to make this accusation? To indirectly influence the jury pool. Remember who these people are and how much power they have.

[@V23325]

As a way to prime the public towards thinking these accusers are lying and this is a “with hunt” ? Set up false accusers easy to disprove in both a public and legal setting, to make things harder for real victims to be taken seriously? Anything is possible. I think it would obviously be a crime to do that and have them find a lawyer to take on the case and make false accusations which end up in court. There would almost have to be some sort of money trail and the person making the accusations would also face a LOT of risk. anything is possible, I think it’s less likely as this person has a lawyer and is going through legal channels, I could see this being more likely if it was just in the media.

[@Passport_Sho]

For you to make that comment, you must think this accusers story is BS

[@devanshepard9118]

some of yall need to get real. jay z does not even know who she is

[@jerryeubanks6883]

All I know is that if people DONT want to believe you whether true or false, they wont. If you show and prove to some people that the sky is blue, if they WANT to think its yellow, then its yellow lol!!!

[@Somegirl811]

@@jerryeubanks6883 based on these comments, you're correct. Even if it was impossible, most of the people in the chat are convinced.

[@veeemejia]

If this woman is lying about facts, it’s likely other alleged victims are lying as well. And of all the evidence presented, I believe the father’s comments made me question the woman’s credibility the most.

[@tdelli3675]

The only thing that's "not possible" 😂 is the father doesn't remember. What do we know about the father? This isn't compelling, it sounds like an angry dude telling me I better think what he tells me or I'm in big trouble. Some people have deep wounds and find reprimanding compelling 🤷

[@stephanywilson475]

Dad could have $$$ reasons not to remember IMO

[@duchessmartinez2035]

I have lesions on the memory part of my brain preventing me from remembering things......

[@chrispjr]

​@@stephanywilson475 Why is it more likely that the dad was paid off and pretending to forget than that the accuser is lying in pursuit of a big settlement? Both are motivated by money, so why assume one scenario over the other?

[@stephanywilson475]

@ just my opinion but as a parent…I know where my kids are. They would NEVER be allowed to take off 10 hours away…I’m interested to see what the explanation for the dad not knowing his kid was that far away is. As much witnessing tampering as has gone on with Diddy…I don’t doubt Daddy got paid big bucks to “forget”. These are people that make people sign NDAs remember? Doesn’t sound like Dad was up for the parent of the year away

[@qest6889]

yeah or the whole things a tactic to keep at bay. no risk any others sight.

[@evelynbellon1519]

Never seen a lawyer try a case in front of the media? This doesn't seem fair?! The victim or her lawyer aren't there to rebuke her case. This is a 1st and doesn't seem right. Shouldn't this be in front of a judge???

[@poppywales]

I agree with you

[@samantha-br7hh]

The "victim" did her own interview with NBC which was set up by her lawyer. The other side also have the right to tell their story in public

[@o-kneechan7149]

Trying a case in front of the media happens all the time. Celebrities and politicians in particular are often more concerned with the public's perception of what happened than even the judge and jury's perspective. Their entire livelihood depends on the public having a positive impression of them. It is also a valid and many times great strategy for the defense, particularly in criminal trials where pressure can be put on the DA. Moreover, publicity brings light to injustices across the world. The Duke Lacross case was tried in the media on both sides. The publicity brought attention to the case, which got the prosecutor disbarred. Kyle Rittenhouse was tried in the media. OJ Simpson was tried in the media. Rodney King criminal trial was tried in the media. Derek Chauvin was tried in the media. All of Trump's cases have been tried in the media. Don't forget the recent YSL trials too. But to bring this back to a memorable civil case between celebrities, there was a case between Johnny Depp and Amber Heard. Depp wanted to win, but more than winning the case, he wanted to change the public's perception of what happened between him and Amber. Amber made her allegations, and Depp was canceled. No one would really listen to his side of the story until the trial happened. Once the legal case began, more and more people started to pay attention. Johnny's lawyers reached out to media people and gave them information in hopes that they would begin to get the public to see Amber's inconsistencies. It gained Johnny a following before the trial that ballooned when the trial started. Without the defense reaching out to the public before the trial, even a win in the case may not have had a impact on the public perception of Johnny. The public may have just assumed that it was more sexism or Johnny won on a technicality. Winning is not necessarily only done in front of the judge and jury. Imagine you were actually accused of doing something you didn't do? Would you want to be silenced to only speak in front of the judge? The allegations are made publicly, and your reputation and freedom may be on the line. You should have every right to defend yourself in public against public allegations. Judges and juries convict actually innocent people all the time.

[@o-kneechan7149]

​@@samantha-br7hhso true, Samantha. They should and do have that right.

[@SweeetPea13]

Not defending JayZ or Diddy but IMO Attorney Buzbee did similarly present this case in the court of public opinion with the release of multiple witness statements against Diddy. This was following the initial announcement of his representation of a plaintiff against Combs and he made a call to action for any other victims. The court documents were disgusting and sickening, to a point many legal analyst couldn't stomach going through the details. And it presented a pattern of Diddy's [alleged] behavior. Then Atty Buzbee pretty much announced he would come for whomever else was involved. So if that's not persecuting someone in the public eye (possibly before any other defendant was named) idk what is.

[@LastinLine4]

I don’t think JayZ did anything wrong. I think he was blackmailed and when he refused to pay up he was named in a lawsuit. He should not be considered guilty just by association.

[@debbieblair3329]

Thank you, Peter. Happy new year to you and your family.

[@josefinasoderholm6488]

I can’t believe how anyone can find this good in anyway. Definitely not a lawyer.. but it says everything about the American justice system

[@Dogmom1]

Happy New Year's Eve 🎉 Peter. I can't wait to hear your take on Spiro yesterday 😊

[@niamhryansammon]

It was so spicy 😂

[@elliotroseman6160]

With so many inconsistencies Buzbee probably should drop this case because if he lose it's going to muddy the waters on his other 120 cases to the point if there's 1 thing that don't match up on another case Diddy's lawyers will refer back to this.

[@jazzyg530]

He must have a good reason to continue!

[@elliotroseman6160]

@jazzyg530 we will 👀

[@loumartinez7717]

The fact that the lawyer has to do an unasked presentation is enough for me to highly doubt all of it.

[@Griffinand3]

Happy New Year’s eve. Thanks for coverage while on vacation!

[@kathleenmckeithen118]

Seems like the "guilty dog is barking" very loudly. Yes, at this time, JayZ knows his popularity is on a downward spiral.

[@kathleenmckeithen118]

Correction: I popped off with my "guilty dog" remark before listening to a lot of this. The case, if what Spiro is showing/saying is true, is not a good one against JayZ. I don't like the guy at all and have no doubt he is as guilty as Diddy but is just a whole lot sneakier about it. Regardless, JayZ's popularity, Beyonce's popularity, JoLo's popularity, etc., may just take a really bad hit.

[@214blumen]

Thanks for these vacation videos!!! And yes, keep on this topic, it's fascinating. All the best for your entire family for '25.

[@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783]

11:40 just for the record, I have been thru some stuff I only told a couple people (only partially) about.. to which I now have no idea where they are. I probably wouldn't even be able to find them and doubt they'd remember. I don't think not telling anyone means your lying. I also think some people will lie if they believe they can get a lot of money from a celebrity. It's also hard to prove your "not" something, it's easier to prove what you are. I ultimately hope these cases end the hyper sexualization in Hollywood and end the abuse of children. I stopped watching TV, movies over a decade ago, and don't buy music. The only way to end the economy of perversion and propaganda is if we don't fund it ourselves. Buying their goods provide the very incentives for them to continue.

[@krissyridgelawnerd]

I was 15 MANY years ago and put myself in a position with a celebrity back stage. Thinking back, he totally took advantage but i wouldn't go after him and couldn't remember any details anyway...

[@notbornagainbornright5046]

I NEVER TOLD ANYONE BECAUSE SOME HOW WE BLAME OURSELVES AND DONT WANT TO HASSLE

[@notbornagainbornright5046]

Me too... I was at a Fishbone party at 16 and my friends were younger. They don't card you 20 years ago anyway. Drugs and woman everywhere

[@lanat5775]

Enjoy your podcast but I do have a complaint can you slow the audio down so we can hear the Q&A ourselves please?

[@ChristinaTodd1970]

The judge should issue a gag order and stop this ridiculousness.

[@cyoohoos]

Try your case in court. The average public doesn't really care about Jay Z or Diddy. I hate to tell them that. You may be big in Hip Hop, but the world is not obsessed with you. P.S. Remind your mother in law

[@keishan.5215]

Despite all the people, a lot in these comments, want the downfall for Jay Z so badly, this alleged “victim” is just not believable based on what’s been shown so far AND what the anonymous person has said already herself! She’s been inconsistent in statements, her own father doesn’t back her story in which she herself included her father in. It’s just not believable but only time will tell. The not so funny part of it all is that despite if this all ends in favor of Jay Z, people still will choose to believe what they want and that in the end is unfortunate.

[@TheSockSnatcher]

13:11 She came from Rochester? When she said she snuck out to go to the VMAs, I had assumed she was already downstate. That is a long drive!

[@katet3327]

The power of money in full effect..

[@tinaungurean3632]

It definitely would affect my opinion on the Ditty lawsuits. Not saying that all alleged victims are lying but it’s possible that some false accusations are mixed in with legit ones.

[@sharonneal585]

I think spiro is completely wrong to do this 😕 i think this will backfire on him for trying to try the case in public opinion or social media that is not good for jury pool surly this will taint them, i think its so unethical.

[@Jodecigirl]

Was it unethical for the accuser to do the NBC interview?

[@sharonneal585]

@Jodecigirl absolutely 💯

[@lauramclaren3]

Spiro saying “it never happened” repeatedly was off-putting to me. The aggressive way he attacked the accusations only sway me to think he’s trying too hard to hide his client’s guilt. If the details are false, he should’ve just said that and proved it in court.

[@PQ190]

The house could have been a rental. Celebrities was money and power get away with things until Me Too movement. Unless lawyer was with client at the time of incident, there is NO WAY lawyer could argue that it did not happen. Power point is a smoke mirror.

[@chevy2thelevy56]

absolutely not defending him (i dont think jayz is innocent) but i believe what they were saying is that there isn’t a white house (in the traditional sense of a “house” at least) that one can get to from Radio City in the middle of Manhattan in 20 minutes, which is true. I’m assuming that’s what she alleged, but obviously a 13 year old might not be great at estimating a car ride duration. she also could have meant a white townhome or penthouse, which would be more feasible locationally in 20 minutes

[@DAISYROSE22]

A lawyer argues it didn't happen by showing evidence such as his client physically being somewhere else at the time of the alleged incident.

[@PQ190]

@@chevy2thelevy56 White House could be a stone house. Houses get painted...

[@PQ190]

@@DAISYROSE22 I didn't watch whole thing. I don't think lawyer ever says Jay Z is innocent ... he says lots of other crap

[@Passport_Sho]

@@PQ190didn’t he prove it by showing JayZ was in a whole different location that night?

[@donnahallman3830]

i’m following the diddy drama, and i’m watching TLYK, so please continue your commentary and expertise.

[@chrisshergie1030]

say what you want about buzbee, but he ain't no ambulance chaser...dude is one of the best

[@lynmarie1786]

Chatter and misdirection - I don't believe for one moment he's innocent.

[@jbilotta]

Money may buy you innocence.

[@s.mcmillan3180]

Trying to taint the jury pool!

[@shellythrivelife]

Replay from Ohio.. People need to consider. If this happen to me at 13. I would remember what happened the rest of my life. But 20 something years later. I wouldn’t remember none of small details as a kid. I personally remember going to Sanibel Island in Florida at 13 but I do not remember the trip. What car my parents drove or anything. I would bet the father was paid off or threatened.

[@SPress0227]

This can be different for different people. I might not remember details of what happened yesterday, but I remember every single detail about things and situations that happened to me at 2 years old..! When you have PTSD you remember. You might not talk about it a lot, but you remember. I’m 39 years old and have been in therapy since I was 15. It just depends on the person..

[@Ashton351]

You probably would simply say that’s you don’t remember. But this gal gave many specifics which are impossible.

[@notbornagainbornright5046]

My dad doesn't remember anything. I was constantly doing crazy stuff as a teen and definitely didn't tell my parents that at 16, with younger friends that I was at a Fishbone party . Luckily we left but plenty of drugs and woman there ... MY DAD DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT I WAS ALWAYS UP TOO

[@LainK1978]

​@@notbornagainbornright5046Did you wake your father up in the middle of the night to make him drive five hours to pick you up from a gas station that you had ran to while naked? And then he would have had to have also driven you back for five hours. I kind of think that would be something a father would remember, happened with his daughter. My parents still vividly remember incidents that happened over 40 years ago that aren't even nearly that serious.

[@kristyward7831]

I have an almost 13 yr old daughter. Kids don’t know time. 20 minutes getting through a busy city could be normal 5-10 mins. I used to think Rudolf the red nose reindeer was like 2 hours long. It’s like 30 mins.

[@KathleenDAngelo-g4y]

Yes!!! Catching a Live! Happy new year !

[@chrispjr]

All these commenters are acting like this man’s reputation and career aren’t on the line. Allegations like these have destroyed other public figures, even when proven false, causing irreparable damage. If I were in his position, I’d want my lawyer to do everything possible to clear my name-both in court and in the public eye. Especially if the facts are on my side.

[@user-he8fy2iy9s]

Is this being broadcast somewhere?

[@leslie4551]

the biggest evidence for me is that the dad doesn't remember it

[@chevy2thelevy56]

if the girl has had it rough/been through as much as this lawyer said, its quite possible that her father is a POS

[@gypsygeb6640]

SAME! If nothing else - this one fact is HUGE!!

[@Ashton351]

Unless you’re a shitty / alcoholic / drug addicted dad. Which is likely given what his minor child was up to. I think this is an important angle. When we hear “dad” we imagine ourselves in the situation. But he may be very very different.

[@leslie4551]

@@Ashton351 but does a shitty / alcoholic / drug addicted dad drive 5 hours to pick up his daughter? We do need more information. He may have been paid to say he doesn’t remember.

[@Tinmann_77]

The 5hr drive is what puts the nail in the coffin for me. 5hrs one way means 10hrs total. For her dad to pick her up and get her home by 630am he had to start driving at 830pm the evening before. If the rape happened after the vmas ended at an after party like she claims..... how did she call her dad and tell him where she would be at 130am for her to be picked up?

[@Chemaloo90]

Thanks for the updates

[@kimdelorme6314]

It’s convincing me‼️

[@jessicaamaya2773]

Would love to hear your thoughts on the lawsuit Justin Baldoni just filed against the new york times about the blake lively article. Also this was a great video! Thanks for explaining everything so thoroughly

[@bryancoburn6523]

It's looking like the hard knock like for Jay Z

[@christineniering1233]

Thank you for this Peter! Wishing you and your family a wonderful New Year!🙏😊🌟

[@lindsay-bay]

It proved nothing, Peter. Happy New Year! The power imbalance and risk to personal security and the demand to release the identity alone, tells me they are playing the offense. No, not impressed at all, with this misdirection. Btw, many creators have investigated the different slides, times from the VMAs to gated homes, clothing changes, especially for artists, past history of those involved. It is the Shaggy defense, it wasn't me.

[@devanshepard9118]

um yea when you are being accussed of something you did not do then yes you play the offense. what is wrong you people??

[@gothgammy666]

@@devanshepard9118The court filing was pathetic and his lawyer was reprimanded because he didn’t deny anything he attacked the accusers attorney

[@devanshepard9118]

@@gothgammy666 girl bye!!!! his first statement said he did not do it. the power point shows it never happened as well as the fact he was at a different club then diddy and diddy neve rowned a white mansion. she sat down and did an nbc interview and was caught telling several lies. also the judge told him to take out the language he used before which he did hence why he re submitted the motion to dismiss. see thats called going off facts hun

[@lindsay-bay]

@@devanshepard9118 no denial has ever been officially issued in court documents

[@devanshepard9118]

@lindsay-bay the judge has not looked at any evidence. Alex motions have said it's impossible for this to have happened cause in 2000 Diddy had a mansion in Miami and not NYC and him and Jay z were not even around other. They are photographed in two different night clubs so miss me with that bs

[@harmonydesroches]

To me this is the nothing more than a lawyer advocating for his incredibly wealthy, famous client. It actually makes me mad/sad that the less wealthy don't get this level of avocation. Money may not be able to buy happiness but it sure can buy one heck of a defense.

[@casandrar5266]

I love our he knows how quickly women can change… quickly when stylist and team around you?

[@chrisshergie1030]

i love how that's all you took away from all that

[@lj8742]

Happy New Year from Western Australia 🇦🇺 🎆

[@jackiestewart5062]

And here in Queensland as well, 40 minutes to midnight here, before we roll into 2025.

[@kimincannes]

This lawyer feels so grimy I wanna go get another shower.

[@Vykadin]

@@kimincannes Hopefully you'll never need a lawyer to defend you. If so, you'll definitely want one who's willing to go full court press for you.

[@notbornagainbornright5046]

No class to drag a victim through the mud

[@notbornagainbornright5046]

​he is being SLIMMY !! I live in Las Vegas and drugs and woman are a staple in a celebrity DIET . They will eat you and throw you out. They will never show you what happens here either. ITS CRAZY STORIES

[@carlaamanda86]

Yes please keep covering this case. ❤

[@elliotroseman6160]

I know JayZ is crooked and not loyal to anyone but himself but nothing adds up with her claims. She said that she may have somethings mixed up but none of her claims are valid.

[@MsDanista]

It wouldn’t be surprising if Jay-Z participated in a bit of freak somewhere along the way. It’s far more likely that he did. There just isn’t enough (yet) to make me believe this particular Jane Doe was part of it.

[@sbongiangel]

That's because it could have happened in 2003 and the right questions haven't been asked. We did not see the father's full answer in full context with the full question. Where is the full interview with the full context. Plus JZs talked about Diddys home but conveniently missed the part where the FEDs said Diddy rented houses for his parties so nobody asked about the homes Diddy rented for his parties either in 2000 or 2003 VMAs. The victims story matches 2003 VMAs too perfectly... but oh well

[@Malsperanza]

He's right that the timing is probably too tight if every fact he's stating is accurate. But the most unreliable thing in memory is timing, especially for a child, especially for a 25yo memory. The rest of the claims are no more than the kind of claims whose intent is to smear a rape victim as a liar. Things like "If you leave the house when you're 13 you have to have a story" or "no one would leave a 13yo in a car in NYC" are just absurd. This is why we have rules of evidence - not to make the lives of defendants frustrating, but because evidence and "it couldn't have happened" are two different things. Until we hear evidence under oath, I continue to believe the rape victim.

[@chelloandra]

If they are this sure - why they still even need her name?

[@debrakoons8628]

Happy New Year Peter and family

[@burnee1968]

Wishing all the happiest of new years🎉🎉

[@Schnitzelparty]

Thank you. Same to you! 🍀

[@chrissyd4279]

Take a shot every time he says "bc this never happened" 🙄

[@evarene07]

You all need to stop assuming Jay is guilty because of some pics…that’s ridiculous. Plus this so called “victim’s” story has been debunked repeatedly. This was/is clearly an extortion attempt. IMO Buzbee didn’t think Jay Z would fight the allegations nor did Buzbee vent his own client to prove her story.

[@beckabones]

Not sure how I feel about all this....to me he could be tainting the future jury pool

[@Jodecigirl]

Do you think the NBC interview tainted the future jury pool too?

[@LadyLibra678]

Man Peter be for real 🙄

[@janedoe6786]

This is what I have been asking for, for someone to proof the allegations of the accusers is putting forward against these guys

[@BabyT709]

Uhhh thats what happens in court

[@void________]

The courts advise you to send demand letters in order to prevent clogging the courts with things that could be resolved without a lawsuit. So the law generally doesn't consider that extortion. I think he's trying to exploit ppls ignorance of that fact. What lawyer puts extortion in writing, knowing its a crime?

[@TheMrwilliams2u]

Anyone who believes this woman/attorney at this point doesn’t like Jay-Z for some reason. Maybe he is whatever you think he is, but this particular thing never happened. The facts are the facts; don’t twist yourself into a pretzel trying to make sense of nonsense.

[@V23325]

He has no ethical responsibility to present truthful information to the public. If this is all true can he not file this in a response where he is bound by his responsibility and duty to present good faith factual information to the court? If this is all true it may sway things, but that “IF” is doing a lot of work. Giving a one sided account like this will always make things appear in favour of the side who’s telling it, but that doesn’t mean any of what’s being said has any teeth.

[@tibb814]

How come no one is complaing about the plaintiffs and/or prosecitors being able to fill the public with lies before a case though? Defense gets persecuted for public statements, and prosecution is allowed all the time.

[@V23325]

@@tibb814 that’s true, I think when it’s filed through the court there is at least the duty to to court by the lawyer to act ethically, that is what I am talking about. If plaintiff is presenting all types of facts and timelines to the public and not in court filings I’d have issues with that as well. I think the power deferential also often comes into play. Not saying that is happening here, but I think it is also a factor as to how someone with less means and less power may have to approach the issue in order to get any traction.

[@void________]

Attorneys do have an ethical duty to tell the truth, even to the public.

[@tibb814]

@void________ yeah, not if theyre prosecutors.

[@void________]

@@tibb814 Oh I guess prosecutors don't mind losing their license.

[@theresalavallee4039]

thanks for jumping on

[@miffedcuttlefish6139]

He keeps saying, "this never happened" it must never have happened. 😂😂😂😂

[@notbornagainbornright5046]

I used to like this lawyer! I don't now

[@notbornagainbornright5046]

Honestly best comment

[@LainK1978]

He also provides evidence that supports that conclusion.

[@BabyT709]

Its psychology, if you hear something so many times you eventually automatically believe it

[@AfterTheRain_Beth]

I think it's a clever move by this defence attorney. You don't get a trial run to test out your defence theories; you're one and done. So like a focus group judging a product or tv program, present your defence theory to the court of public opinion and see how it flies. We going to see more attorneys doing this for high-profile cases? Sarah Boone should have used this strategy.

[@angelaschultz8509]

The timeline isn’t as strong as I think it comes off. They didn’t confirm JZ or PD left VMA’s when it ended and no time stamps on when they were seen between the VMA’s and the house. Interested in those facts.

[@aleanafox9905]

Besides, there are no White House’s 24 years ago? Colors of houses change, driveways change. How many people today buy a house and change nothing if they have the money to change it. They said time line doesn’t work out because she could not walked in the amount of time it would have took to walk from the( non existent house) to the gas station. If there was no such house, how do they know how long it would have taken to walk? And she could have been mistaken about house color in dark. It may not have been white just lighter color.

[@apriljoy1094]

They are already confirmed by the internet sleuths and witnesses. If she goes to trial she's going to be ambered. The problem is that it would be years from now and she could already have ruined peoples lives.

[@shannongilbert5487]

Keep it coming!!