Layering Instruments & Samples | How To Make Roland Drums Sound Better | TD-17 TD-27 TD-50

Learn how to make Roland drums sound better by using instrument and sample layering. See how layering drum samples (kick, snare, toms, cymbals) on your V-drums module can beef up your instruments!
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00:00 - How To Layer Instruments
02:07 - Layering Concepts
05:09 - Kick Drum Layering
06:57 - Snare Drum Layering
08:28 - Tom Layering
10:17 - Cymbal Layering
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[@zoohuman]

Thank you again maestro, Roland should hire you to do their manuals. Everything that I've learned on my td-27, pretty much came from you. You're amazing and I appreciate your time and effort to help others.🙌

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thank you 🙏 glad I could help!

[@karenbrazzel7742]

Awesome stuff! You’re the only video I have seen on KZbin that covers this specifically for Roland. Thank you it will definitely help me out!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thank you! There will be more in the future for the other functions like the Transient settings etc 😊

[@just82much51]

Luke, GREAT video! Love what you do a nd the info you share! Appreciate it!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thank you 🙏

[@peterahlberg6512]

Great tips how to layer toms and ride! I have a td-17 module and agree that especially the ride bow sounds are hard to improve with the EQ, pitch etc.

[@michaelthomasen9711]

These videos are so useful! Thanks for making them, and keep them coming.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thanks for watching! I intend to!

[@demonicsweaters]

Awesome info man, thank you.

[@DaveonDrums]

another super helpful video!

[@stevenmorley7774]

Brilliant information !

[@BobSchoepenjr]

So valuable!

[@lawrencepatrick5760]

Your info is really helpful to the edrum community.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thank you!

[@prohomes]

Second video I've seen of this fellow. He really knows his stuff and I've found it very useful, but OMG, THOSE HANDS!! I have to look away in order not to be completely distracted. Regardless, thanks for the excellent information

[@andybdrumming2191]

Thanks dude! Really appreciate the section on Toms. Think you should have mentioned your Free Layer me packs. those are so helpful. I do notice there is some phase on the Carter B toms from your pack.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

You're right, I totally should have! Kinda forgot it was up there 😂 And really? You've got the TD-50 version, right? The toms aren't layered on the Beauford kit for the TD-50.

[@djpuzzleofficial]

Cool mate. Just got a TD-17. Might have to pop on over to your store.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thank you 🙏

[@pelletmobile2]

Great video!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thanks!

[@matenorth]

That was very informative. Where do we get quality acoustic samples in audio format?

[@sagedrummer]

Loving the Carter Beauford and Neil Peart kits you made. Looking forward to more releases (Bonham through the years).

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thanks! You might like Famous Vol. 2 then when I finally get it out! 😯

[@sagedrummer]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop Awesome, looking forward to it!

[@jeffo1845]

This and the EQ video have made the module much less intimidating, and has really brought out the best in my custom kit. Thanks for sharing. Do you plan or have a video outlining the pad settings such as sensitivity, threshold and curve for the TD17?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Glad the videos could help! I don't have anything in the works right now for that but it'll probably end up being a video down the line. Justin at 65 Drums did do a good general video explaining these settings a couple of years ago, worth seeking it out if you haven't seen it already.

[@williamperri3437]

Is the module really easy to use since watching these videos?

[@czr.]

Thank you for going into so much detail. My TD17kvx set sounds 100x better!!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Awesome, glad it's helped!

[@williamperri3437]

I went to the music store tonight and layered a snare drum and it sounded so much better... I'm beginning to like the TD-17 more and more ESPECIALLY after I added the maximum level of tape to reach Tom Tom. I stopped at think three pieces of tape because the felt was too much. That trick literally made the tom-toms. Otherwise I find myself not wanting to play the tom-toms at all because they just ring out coming through the floor speaker.

[@klausneumaier2236]

Very usefull. Thanks a lot. I still struggle with the compressor settings in my TD 17. I only find the Low Fi compressor in the multifx setting. But i dont quite know how to use it. There is no gain, threshold, attack time etc. to adjust. Am a bit confused.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Yeah, unfortunately a "normal" compressor isn't built into the TD-17, you have to go up to a 27 or higher for that option, where the regular compressor is part of the main signal chain rather than by a multifx. The best results I've had with the Lo-Fi compressor are setting the Pre-filter and Lo-Fi Type to 1 (makes the effect more subtle), turn off the Post Filter, boost the High Gain and have the level somewhere around 70, then see how it sounds when sending each instrument.

[@klausneumaier2236]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop Great. Thanks for your help. Stay healthy.

[@Evenfall2k]

Hi can u say me the setup from the bass on 0:27 it is nice :) i have a TD-27 great video so my english is not the best

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Hi! The bass drum on that clip is from my "Zeppelins" kit for the TD-50 module. There is a version for the TD-27 that sounds very similar. It is available from my store at theedrumworkshop.com/td27-kits

[@paulparker4697]

I've really only played electronic drums for this past year mostly due to being stuck at home. Im still learning but I want to upgrade from a td15 module but not sure if the td 27 would be to complicated for a beginner that know just the basics but will learn. I love the digital ride should I get the td17 or the 27. I know it's off topic but I'm asking lol thanks

[@karenbrazzel7742]

I have the td17 and for a beginner and intermediate I think it has everything you need and you can make it sound really good with layering and buying his custom kits

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

The 27 certainly has a lot of options so it could put off some people, but I think your "but will learn" is the right approach! It sounds ok out of the box but it does have a very different "sound character" to the 15. It can be pushed a lot further though. Also, the way they've laid out the module workflow makes it much easier to get a handle on than something like the TD-50. It was still made with the "home user" in mind. As someone who has owned a TD-15 in the past, I'm not sure if the 17 might feel more like a sideways move than an upgrade. It's newer and has some great features that the 15 doesn't (Bluetooth, layering, EQ & Ambience knobs on the front), but it also lacks a few of the simple functions (like a dedicated headphone volume control, no "pad copy" function, probably a couple of other minor things). That's not to say you wouldn't enjoy it though - as Karen says, it's a great module that covers a lot of ground with what it does. I try not to give direct buying advice but I think if it was me and I thought I would get a few months in and be pining for the digital ride, I'd maybe consider getting the 27. Try and watch some feature videos and read the manuals though if possible as that'll give you a better idea.

[@karenbrazzel7742]

If you are willing to spend the extra 500 bucks I’d get the td27 that’s if you are just buying the module.

[@charliecray5554]

PLEASE HELP! I cant work out for the life of me how to change the sub inst volume on the td27. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you so much.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Replied on another comment, but you just need to press right so that the value is highlighted by the Sub Volume bar then adjust with the dial.

[@marcogiusfredi6552]

Do you found that samples sound completely different inside the TD50? I have layered all sound of a kit but when I add a sample on a pad it sound completely different from what it sound in a daw! All settings are off...Could it depend from the fact I use only direc out?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

I do find that they can sound a bit different, yes. When you layer them over a Roland sound, they definitely sound different because of that Roland sound, but I also feel like they sound a little less "bright" even when they aren't layered. Especially if you then compare them to a Roland sound. Sometimes I end up "optimising" my samples for use on Roland modules (especially when layering) by exaggerating certain frequencies with EQ and compression.

[@marcogiusfredi6552]

Ah...ok...so it’s not me!😅😅😅 Do you eq the sample before importing? Can you suggest some eq tips for samples to import in the TD50? I found they loose all the character and quality I imported for!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

To be honest, it's hard to give advice as it will depend on the sample and how you want it to be used (layered or not, etc) but generally I'll end up going back to the PC with my samples a couple of times to tweak them if I need to. If they sound a bit dull, boost the high-mids/top end etc. I do a bit of testing with my module hooked up to the computer via MIDI and cross-referencing that way so I don't have to literally get on the kit every time I want to tweak. However, sometimes you've got to play the sample yourself to fully work it out, so it really can be trial and error.

[@marcogiusfredi6552]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop Yes ... I imagined ... but I have the module in the rehearsal room and the computer at home so it is not possible for me to do such a thing! I thought of a different procedure: since the TD50 probably modifies all imported sounds in the same way (by applying an equalization) I could record the samples directly from the TD50 output and then compare them with the original samples in a daw to find the differences in the equalization and extrapolate an equalization curve that applies to all samples. It should work?! Among other things, that found should be a "universal" equalization to be applied to all the sounds imported into the TD50 so that they sound faithful to the original ....

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

That sounds like a good solution, yeah! I'll have to try that myself at some point as it would be interesting to see exactly what is happening there rather than just doing it on a case-by-case basis. Good luck with the experimenting, let me know what you find if you get chance!

[@playstationgamer8759]

Please mate give us the Chris Adler kit for the td17!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

The kits take time and I've re-jigged the way I'm doing the current kits. I'm on Famous Vol. 2 at the moment, then will be doing a Metal collection which will contain that kit.

[@sarinsahil]

Where is the Tama tom sample from?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

I'm pretty sure that it's the 12" Tama Superstar Hyperdrive sample I took from my own kit. I used it to make the toms on The eDW House Kit which is available from my store at theedrumworkshop.com

[@rjmunt]

1:47 how did you get fade3 on a td27?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

It was available on v1 but removed when the v2 update happened. Fade2 used to end at 127 and Fade3 ended at 127+32, but the new "Fade End" setting negated the distinction. Since you can set your own custom end point up to 127+32, Fade3 was removed.

[@dustin3733]

Can you layer on the TD07?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Unfortunately not, no :(

[@dustin3733]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop do you know what I can do to make the snare sound any better? Can I assign a sound to the snare rim?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

When I had my review kit, I used EQ, the Transient settings and the Overheads to improve the sounds. I've got an EQ video on the channel, will have videos on the others in the future. You can assign sounds to the rim, yeah. You will need to turn off the H&R/head and rim link, tap the snare rim then change the sound. The manual will explain these functions.